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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 01, 2009, 02:15:49 AM

Title: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 01, 2009, 02:15:49 AM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/10/01/bayonetta_demo/

FUCK YEAH. Wish my 360 wasn't broken, wish my first taste of the best action game of all time wasn't with the inferior version but alas that's life.

LP's

Onyx Roses
-Chapter 1 v 4, appears after the Beloved fight

Shuraba
-Chapter 2 v 7, after the Beloved fight in the plaza

Kulshedra
-Chapter 3 v 4, after Fairness fight
-Chapter 3 v 9, behind you on the left side after you enter the Garden of Light

Durga
-Chapter 5, when you're on going up a spiral staircase, you'll eventually come across a pool to the side. A tomb with a Durga LP is behind the pillar in the pool.
-and probably another one you get after combat?

Odette
-Chapter 6 v 1, in a tomb right behind you when you start
-Chapter 6 v 2, when you get to the waterside with the witch statues, go to the left corner(should be lower left) and smash apart the rocks blocking entrance to a tomb
-Chapter 6 v 9, after the Joy fight, you can find a tomb behind the Gate

Kilgore
-Chapter 9 v 1, behind a wall with a sun mark on the right side of the fountain plaza(if you initiated verse 1, you need to use the key before you can get there)
-After you defeat the Kinships
-When you get to Gates of Hell, use beast within and jump across the broken bridge(don't go on the glowing trail), follow that path to the end and break the sun mark wall

In Chapter 2, after Verse 3 onward on any difficulty, walk around the plaza from Verse 3 outside of combat and stand in front of one of the telephones and input one of the codes below. The left phone by the stairs is used for Weapon unlocks, the right phone for Accessories and the stand alone phone on the other end of the plaza is for Characters. Next to the description is the required amount of Halos you must have in your inventory at the time to unlock the matching secret. All directions are input using the D-Pad. These codes allow the immediate unlock of the listed weapon/accessory/character without completing the requirements.

Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, Y   Unlock Bazillions (Weapon) - Requires 1 Million Halos
Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, LT   Unlock Bracelet of Time (Accessory) - Requires 3 Million Halos
Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, RT   Unlock Climax Bracelet (Accessory) - Requires 5 Million Halos
Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, RB   Unlock Eternal Testimony (Accessory) - Requires 2 Million Halos
Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B   Unlock Jeanne (Character) - Requires 1 Million Halos
Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, X   Unlock Little Zero (Character) - Requires 5 Million Halos
Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, A   Unlock Pillow Talk (Weapon) - Requires 1 Million Halos
Up, Up, Up, Up, Down, Down, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, LB        Unlock Rodin (Weapon) - Requires 5 Million Halos

/COPYPASTA

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Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 02:20:50 AM
Nut up and go buy a new 360. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 01, 2009, 02:29:30 AM
Apparently the falling clock tower stage runs like a butthole on ps3, and so they decided to keep it out so as not to turn people off. The most interesting looking level sucks on PS3? That's kinda sad.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: pilonv1 on October 01, 2009, 02:44:22 AM
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Gentlemen, start your system wars! Sega announced today a final availability date for its promised Bayonetta demo. Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 owners will have access to the download on October 8.

Sega says that the PS3 and Xbox 360 demos will offer different stages. The actual content list provided by Sega, however, suggests that the only difference is an extra stage for 360 owners.

The PS3 demo, clocking in at 1,196MB, will include a tutorial and The Angel's Metropolis stage. The Xbox 360 demo, at 770MB, will include the tutorial, The Angel's Metropolis stage, and the Falling Clock Tower prologue stage.

Both demos will provide options for camera, sound and display adjustments.

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/10/01/bayonetta_demo
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bildi on October 01, 2009, 02:46:48 AM
There's another thread boo - and Bob posted a nice controversial piece of info in it already.

Your thread title rocks though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 02:47:14 AM
So the 360 demo has an extra stage even though it's 400mbs smaller than the PS3's?

:bow Power of the Cell :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bildi on October 01, 2009, 02:48:16 AM
I'm strangely excited to play the demo even though I haven't followed the game much.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: pilonv1 on October 01, 2009, 02:50:32 AM
lousy work making me post redundant threads
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 01, 2009, 03:38:11 AM
Nut up and go buy a new 360. 

No, he's actually trying to go the opposite direction in relation to his nuts.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: chronovore on October 01, 2009, 04:12:40 AM
There was an extra-hott Bayonetta cosplayer in this week's Major's Minute TGS coverage.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 05:32:34 AM
well i don't have a gold jpn account so i'll have to play the inferior version for a week (that's assuming that sega doesn't go the extra mile and region lock it)  :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Robo on October 01, 2009, 05:37:16 AM
The 360 demo has more content, yet is smaller by nearly 400mb.  How the hell does that work?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 08:57:45 AM
The 360 demo has more content, yet is smaller by nearly 400mb.  How the hell does that work?

I don't think the extra X360 level would demo well on the Ps3.
Ps3 build seems to be very bad. Fucking sega.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 09:25:10 AM
where is the talk of the clocktower stage running like shit on ps3 coming from?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: chronovore on October 01, 2009, 09:28:05 AM
where is the talk of the clocktower stage running like shit on ps3 coming from?

Remember when Kutaragi talked about having the various Cell processors in other household items cooperating? You're supposed to have a fridge with a Cell processor, the added processing boost will smooth that out.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 09:55:41 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3175838

found it.


Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Draft on October 01, 2009, 10:02:40 AM
God, the Xbox is awesome.

Jesus, the PS3 is a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 10:15:20 AM
More like Sega is a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Draft on October 01, 2009, 10:16:39 AM
More like Sega is a piece of shit.
Sure, it's Sega's fault.

You know they've been making games for like 30 years? If anyone could get code humming on the Piece of Shit 3, it would be Sega.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Brehvolution on October 01, 2009, 10:18:52 AM
:drake
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 10:24:01 AM
More like Sega is a piece of shit.
Sure, it's Sega's fault.

You know they've been making games for like 30 years? If anyone could get code humming on the Piece of Shit 3, it would be Sega.

Devil May Cry 4 ran great on Ps3.

Sega are just a piece of shit, They even suck at being a 3rd party developer.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:drake
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Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 10:35:08 AM
sfag raging
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: drew on October 01, 2009, 10:49:36 AM
Wish my 360 wasn't broken, wish my first taste of the best action game of all time wasn't with the inferior version but alas that's life.

well maybe if you didnt sit on the fucking thing and had taken care of it when it happened...
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 10:54:54 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3175838

found it.




Just remember guys, sp0rsk wrote that.  :drake
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: MCD on October 01, 2009, 11:14:54 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17837607&postcount=115

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Even sprks, who wrote the originally 1up article that got everyone droned in line about the ps3 version sucking back tracked on his statements, ultimately saying he's still going to buy the ps3 version. If the man who fucking played both versions still says he wants to get the ps3 version over the 360 version, that should tell you something.

:drake
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 11:17:09 AM
Urgh, so I raged over nothing?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: cool breeze on October 01, 2009, 11:25:15 AM
This is one game that will probably be a lot better on 360.  First, there are several reports (not just that one posted) that it ran poorly compared the 360 version, then there is Platinum Games ignoring the existence of a PS3 version until a little while ago, and finally the fact that they aren't even doing the PS3 port.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Draft on October 01, 2009, 11:39:31 AM
Even sporks, disgusting weeaboo, backpedaled and retreated to the safety of "dualshock is better for DMC" argument.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 11:45:22 AM
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While the 360 version on display looked crisp and smooth, the PS3 version was very blurry and the framerate was all over the place. During one portion of the demo, a crazy scene where you are jumping off of falling parts of a giant clock tower, it was often hard to keep track of the action because of the graphical issues on PS3.

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The kicker, and perhaps most ironic part of any of the console-war hubbub around all this: I personally plan on buying the PS3 version. Even if none of the problems I saw are ironed out (and to be fair, with the game not hitting in NA until early next year, who knows), I’ll take the Dual-Shock controls, thank you very much.

 :sp0rsk1
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 11:52:20 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17837607&postcount=115

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Even sprks, who wrote the originally 1up article that got everyone droned in line about the ps3 version sucking back tracked on his statements, ultimately saying he's still going to buy the ps3 version. If the man who fucking played both versions still says he wants to get the ps3 version over the 360 version, that should tell you something.

:drake

That tells me sporks is just another Sfag distinguished mentally-challenged fellow who would opt to play the crappier version as a sign of support for his beloved PS3. If he says that the 360 version is 20% better, then in reality it's probably twice as good. 

What a cigarillo.  He's lucky I don't go to his nerd conventions.  Otherwise, I'd punch him right in the glasses.   
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Trent Dole on October 01, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
Why did 1up hire a stupid twat from neofag?  :yuck
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 01, 2009, 11:53:41 AM
This is one game that will probably be a lot better on 360.  First, there are several reports (not just that one posted) that it ran poorly compared the 360 version, then there is Platinum Games ignoring the existence of a PS3 version until a little while ago, and finally the fact that they aren't even doing the PS3 port.

Really?

 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 11:55:28 AM
sega is doing the ps3 port

http://platinumgames.com/2009/09/18/fall-harvest/

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With Bayonetta, we created the Xbox 360 version of the game first, and then handed off all the data and other assets to SEGA so they could begin the process of porting Bayonetta to the PS3, giving them advice regarding the porting process along the way and overseeing the progress to ensure that the PS3 version would be the best it could be.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 12:18:39 PM
This is one game that will probably be a lot better on 360.  First, there are several reports (not just that one posted) that it ran poorly compared the 360 version, then there is Platinum Games ignoring the existence of a PS3 version until a little while ago, and finally the fact that they aren't even doing the PS3 port.

Really?

 :lol

Buy a 360 so you don't have to be stuck with the inferior version. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: ManaByte on October 01, 2009, 12:22:12 PM
Why did 1up hire a stupid twat from neofag?  :yuck

Back in the day Ziff used to hire out of an IRC channel #vidgames. Now they hire out of Gaf mods.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 12:54:48 PM
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While the 360 version on display looked crisp and smooth, the PS3 version was very blurry and the framerate was all over the place. During one portion of the demo, a crazy scene where you are jumping off of falling parts of a giant clock tower, it was often hard to keep track of the action because of the graphical issues on PS3.

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The kicker, and perhaps most ironic part of any of the console-war hubbub around all this: I personally plan on buying the PS3 version. Even if none of the problems I saw are ironed out (and to be fair, with the game not hitting in NA until early next year, who knows), I’ll take the Dual-Shock controls, thank you very much.

 :sp0rsk1

So he played versions of the game already and saw how the PS3 version was worse, it's a known fact that Platinum Games isn't making the PS3 version, he's got both consoles, and he's STILL buying the PS3 version?  WHY?   :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: HyperZoneWasAwesome on October 01, 2009, 12:54:48 PM
how come the 360 demo have more content but is of a lesser file size?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 12:55:51 PM
Why did 1up hire a stupid twat from neofag?  :yuck

Probably because he lives in Japan  (:o :o :o :o) and has rubbed noses with a few of the 1up/former 1up dudes living over there.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 12:57:31 PM
I'm going to merge these two threads, because the other one needs this thread title. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bocsius on October 01, 2009, 01:00:53 PM
So the 360 demo has an extra stage even though it's 400mbs smaller than the PS3's?

:bow Power of the Cell :bow2

PS3 has full 1080p assets, whereas 360 is probably running sub-720p.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I just made that up.
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Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 01:10:31 PM
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While the 360 version on display looked crisp and smooth, the PS3 version was very blurry and the framerate was all over the place. During one portion of the demo, a crazy scene where you are jumping off of falling parts of a giant clock tower, it was often hard to keep track of the action because of the graphical issues on PS3.

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The kicker, and perhaps most ironic part of any of the console-war hubbub around all this: I personally plan on buying the PS3 version. Even if none of the problems I saw are ironed out (and to be fair, with the game not hitting in NA until early next year, who knows), I’ll take the Dual-Shock controls, thank you very much.

 :sp0rsk1

So he played versions of the game already and saw how the PS3 version was worse, it's a known fact that Platinum Games isn't making the PS3 version, he's got both consoles, and he's STILL buying the PS3 version?  WHY?   :lol

He's a self-loathing white guy.   :usacry
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 01, 2009, 01:11:05 PM
This is one game that will probably be a lot better on 360.  First, there are several reports (not just that one posted) that it ran poorly compared the 360 version, then there is Platinum Games ignoring the existence of a PS3 version until a little while ago, and finally the fact that they aren't even doing the PS3 port.

Really?

 :lol

Buy a 360 so you don't have to be stuck with the inferior version. 

Wanna buy me a 360? Unless The Bore steps up and gives me a free one, it's not happening. I spend too much on gaming as it is, another system would piss off the wife.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 01, 2009, 01:21:33 PM
Wanna buy me a 360? Unless The Bore steps up and gives me a free one, it's not happening. I spend too much on gaming as it is, another system would piss off the wife.

Give wifey an ultimatum.  No cock until you get a 360.  In the meantime, we'll get you a fleshlight. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Third on October 01, 2009, 01:34:31 PM
Ehh, it's not like Ps3 was released yesterday. Other devs are doing just fine with the Ps3 hardware.

Sony and Sega have one thing in common - they can't program for shit. Sony made their console a hell for untalented programmers.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 01, 2009, 01:35:53 PM
Pretty sure sp0rsk (or sprks, whatever he calls himself now) still has a 360.  I removed him from my friends list a long time ago, since to my knowledge he never got XBL Gold, but I'm pretty sure I saw him online when looking at someone else's friends list recently.

Bayonetta's situation seems the same as The Orange Box.  One version is obviously much better, and made by a more competent developer.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: duckman2000 on October 01, 2009, 01:43:35 PM
Ehh, it's not like Ps3 was released yesterday. Other devs are doing just fine with the Ps3 hardware.

Sony and Sega have one thing in common - they can't program for shit. Sony made their console a hell for untalented programmers.

Talent, really? Seems to me as if it has more to do with a conscious cost v reward calculation, and not having the resources in time or money to give a damned about handling complicated systems. Yeah, we're seeing better multiplatform games on the PS3 these days, but every testimonial suggests that it's a struggle to get the PS3 up to 360 level. To smaller developers, that is probably not even an option. And the only developers who seem happy with the system are the ones who are in the enviable position of developing exclusively for that system, and who have the backing of a first party.

The 360, for its part, suffers from not having a whole lot of those types of studios. But for a company like the one behind Bayonetta, it makes sense to ditch the system. It's not like people who are going for the PS3 version are going to be deterred by poor performance and quality, since so many of them were PS2 fans back in the day.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 01, 2009, 01:49:53 PM
Wanna buy me a 360? Unless The Bore steps up and gives me a free one, it's not happening. I spend too much on gaming as it is, another system would piss off the wife.

Give wifey an ultimatum.  No cock until you get a 360.  In the meantime, we'll get you a fleshlight. 

:lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bocsius on October 01, 2009, 01:53:02 PM
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I personally plan on buying the PS3 version. Even if none of the problems I saw are ironed out


you know, i've got a lot of time for sporks but this makes no sense.

I think he has an X360
he has a PS3
one is substandard because it's [strike]on the ps3[/strike] been farmed out
the other is on the lead platform and runs fine

seems a crazy thing to do.

Perhaps PS3 fans should do the proper thing and wait for the superior-to-x360 Pc version so they can snort at the rest of us oiks as they mudwrestle some wenches whilst drinking chateaux de pape

It just further underscores the notion that we all have our preferences, whether we admit to them or not. Multiconsole gamers who love to wear their multiconsole status on their sleeves, "I'm not biased because I own all the systems :smug," are often the most "preferenced" of all.

It's understandable, to an extent. Maybe you prefer the controller of one system. Maybe you prefer the online platform of another. Maybe this, maybe that. But don't try to deny that you have a preference when you clearly do. It's irritating, if nothing else.

Anyway, mini observational rant over.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on October 01, 2009, 02:38:22 PM
:lol Sp0rsk is such a smelly, self-hating weeaboo.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 01, 2009, 02:42:59 PM
"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?" - sony
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 06, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
I worked for days putting together the other bayonetta demo thread.  I collaborated with the devs since the game was announced.  this thread doesn't even have a banner.  It's disrespectful to the devs.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 06, 2009, 03:06:35 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: MCD on October 06, 2009, 03:16:54 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Brehvolution on October 06, 2009, 03:58:21 PM
heyyyyyy
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: brawndolicious on October 06, 2009, 05:58:47 PM
Ehh, it's not like Ps3 was released yesterday. Other devs are doing just fine with the Ps3 hardware.

Sony and Sega have one thing in common - they can't program for shit. Sony made their console a hell for untalented programmers.
It seems to be dependent more on cost than anything else, which is probably why big budget games are looking worse and why Activision was "threatening" to drop PS3 support entirely (they'd probably just give it to their B teams/lower budget instead).  If the programmers need more man-hours to make the same game on a system with about the same amount of owners as the 360, then it's obvious that the profits would be lower.  Game budgets are ultimately planned out by penny-pinchers who want to just maximize the return on investment which is why, as so very many people have said, having that particular architecture for the PS3 was not a good idea.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 06, 2009, 08:19:33 PM
heyyyyyy

:lol

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: chronovore on October 06, 2009, 08:20:24 PM
"We don't provide the 'easy to program for' console that (developers) want, because 'easy to program for' means that anybody will be able to take advantage of pretty much what the hardware can do, so then the question is, what do you do for the rest of the nine-and-a-half years?" - sony

Thanks for finding that chestnut. The PS3's architecture is, like the PS2's, unlike other consumer products which preceded it. Last generation, with so many PS2 systems sold, it was the primary SKU for most devs, so you had people willing to bend over backward to get something looking great on it. That would then get ported to the better hardware of the original Xbox or NGC, both of which are much closer to standard computers. Porting a specialized but lower-spec app for a generalized but higher spec platform is simpler than attempting the opposite direction.

This gen, most console publishers are targeting the 360 as their main SKU, then hoping to squeeze out a version for Wii and PS3, and it's just not working. With the PS3, the architecture is just too structured; with the Wii, the control scheme is just not something that can be strapped on after the fact. Then again, I've heard that Burnout Paradise, which targeted PS3 as its primary SKU didn't have an easier road.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 06, 2009, 08:50:36 PM
Aside from the PSP, Sony systems have always had the stupidest designs.  It's almost certain that a Playstation will have several times the complexity for basically the same power or less as their competitors. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 06, 2009, 09:03:28 PM
Seems like the industry is sick of the bullshit though.  I would say something like "Sony has probably learned their lesson" but we're like 2 days after the PSPGo launch here :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: chronovore on October 07, 2009, 01:08:09 AM
It's not that they're sick of it, it's a matter of money. Last gen the PS2's marketshare was a winner by a disgustingly huge margin; it made sense to doggedly pursue the PS2 architecture's furthest limits, and we got some fine games out of it.

What I see instead this generation is devs trying to make the PS3 operate by the rules of the 360, and failing. If there were more money to be made on PS3 games than 360 ones, the situation would again reverse.

But much with the situation of the Xbox 1 in the PS2-era, no-one is really taking advantage of the additional features of the PS3. I'm not even talking about the questionable "Remote Play" feature (hey! let's undermine sales of a PSP version by making the main SKU playable anywhere!) or making a special feature of tying PSP-as-a-controller to a PS3 title

The only hole I see in my argument is that the Wii should, by virtue of its installed base, be everyone's lead SKU, because there is an arguable opportunity to sell more on the Wii than on 360/PS3. However, last I heard the attach rate for Wii is pathetic, particularly for titles which don't feature an Italian plumber, or don't include a bundled Wiimote.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 12:18:47 AM
shit version of the demo is up
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 12:22:27 AM
downloading gimped version on shitty console now
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: MCD on October 08, 2009, 12:43:02 AM
impressions u sluts.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: cool breeze on October 08, 2009, 12:45:36 AM
It downloaded really fast for me, surprisingly.  It's installing.  Inferior version here too.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 08, 2009, 12:49:14 AM
There are two reasons PS3 games lag behind:

1) Programmers do a majority of the debugging on the 360, because it's right in Visual Studio, and it's easier, so they never care about the PS3 as long as it is running. (Read: LAZY) That's also why a lot of Wii games are ass, when they're on all 3.

2) Producers tell you what to do and ignore PS3 issues and just work on the game and they get patched later on, in a rush.

Neither of them are directly Sony's fault. They CAN'T patch directly into Visual Studio. 360 will always be easier to debug on for people who never want to learn to use the SN Debugger. (Even though it syncs breakpoints right from VS)

It takes a good producer to make something other than the 360 the 'lead' sku.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: cool breeze on October 08, 2009, 01:10:05 AM
demo was fun, though easy and confusing.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 01:10:33 AM
It's like 20fps in the actual level :lol   it's playable, but holy shit.  The boss fight (not the statue, the part after with the chick) is almost a solid 60fps.  The graphics aren't all that hot, but the animation is really fucking nice.  Style-wise, it seems every bit of "lol japan" as the trailers have lead us to believe...cheesy music, way too much sexual innuendo for a 15 minute demo, a taunt move where she says "you wanna touch me?" while striking a pose....

The action is like a combination of DMC + NG.  It's really fast and loose, she reacts to like every touch of the controller, like Ryu, but with a lot less gravity and really high launches/jumps.  You get weapons after doing finishing moves.  They seem stronger than normal attacks.  You can go hand to hand or use her Katana.  There seems to be a fuckton of combos.  The chick boss fight is a lot of fun, since you run all over the walls.  

Seems like it'll be a legitimate new hardcore action IP.  but man, the framerate... :rofl    Hope it's a solid 60fps on the 360.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 01:11:36 AM
Ignoring framerate, how do the graphics compare to DMC4?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 01:14:54 AM
they seem worse.


whoa, she has a UT with the katana :rock
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 01:19:06 AM
What's a UT?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: M3wThr33 on October 08, 2009, 01:24:36 AM
What's a UT?
Urinary Tract Infection or Unreal Tournament.

Or Unreal Tract Infection.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 01:26:16 AM
Medical personnel usually use UTI for Urinary Tract Infections. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 01:26:39 AM
ultimate technique from ninja gaiden.  
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 01:31:17 AM
sub hd, bad framerate, and screen tearing likes of which has only been seen in the console ports of sacred 2

gameplay is good tho.

bring on the proper demo.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: MCD on October 08, 2009, 01:34:48 AM
Jansen (http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/train28/xflag.gif)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 01:39:46 AM
i love me some xbox but i'm not even exaggerating here. it really is horrible.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 01:41:22 AM
and i did too about 2 posts up...it's that bad. 

:piss  cell processor :piss2

:piss home :piss2

:piss room :piss2
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 01:47:58 AM
Hey,MyNameIsMud, what's the point of having a working console if it sucks?

:drake
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bebpo on October 08, 2009, 01:59:18 AM
1st impressions:
-Game runs fine on PS3.  It's not a perfect locked 60fps every second of the time but that's what the superior X360 version is for.  Game is usually smooth and perfectly playable on the PS3 though.

-Can't tell if combat is good because the demo is too easy.  The slow motion after dodge thing is cool but it seems like it could be too good.

-Picking up weapons are cool even if they only have two moves.  Throw back to Final Fight era I guess

-Boss fights were the best part.  Like a mix of DMC and God of War in a good way.  Basically what NG tried to do with all its big bosses and usually failed at.

-QTEs were lame.

-Main character and he moves are fucking embarrasing.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:10:56 AM
Quote
-Game runs fine on PS3.  It's not a perfect locked 60fps every second of the time but that's what the superior X360 version is for.  Game is usually smooth and perfectly playable on the PS3 though.

can the bullshit and save it for gaf.

it simply does not run fine on ps3. this is a fact.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bebpo on October 08, 2009, 02:17:09 AM
other than occasional framedrops and some tearing I don't see what the big deal is.  I haven't seen any X360 vids to compare but the PS3 version runs fine if it's your only system.  If I hadn't heard all the bitching about the "terrible" PS3 version I wouldn't have even noticed anything besides "yeah it doesn't run at a locked 60fps".

I'm getting the X360 version for the locked 60fps, but I think people are really exaggerating how poor the PS3 version runs.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 02:28:16 AM
Wouldn't it be better to compare to the 360 demo after you've played both?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 02:29:41 AM
No.  You don't need to drive a Benz to know that it's better than a Toyota. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:31:57 AM
ah well. let's just wait for a digital foundry/lensoftruth comparison an then we'll see if folks are exaggerating :)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 02:33:00 AM
No, I'm talking about saying that the PS3 version isn't "terrible."   :P  I can see it being exaggerated, but I wouldn't say that the PS3 version seems "aight" until I saw the difference for myself.

No dual system owner who's sane is going to get it on PS3.  Everybody knows this.

I'm downloading the gimped version right now.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bebpo on October 08, 2009, 02:38:32 AM
Isn't it the opposite?

If a PS3 only owner plays the demo and never sees the SUPERIOR X360 VERSION he'd think the PS3 version was fine and totally playable and a day 1 buy.

I'm not saying it's "fine" as compared to the not-here-x360-version; I'm saying it's "fine" compared to every other game on the market and the bar for a playable framerate vs a broken framerate.  It's definitely running over 30fps and that sure beats out most games on the PS3 and we don't call those "terrible" and "unplayable" and "broken".
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:41:59 AM
if a ps3 only owner plays the demo and thinks it's totally fine then that person must be completely oblivious to screen tearing and framedrops.

basically someone you shouldn't take seriously when they comment on graphics.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 02:42:18 AM
It's definitely running over 30fps and that sure beats out most games on the PS3 and we don't call those "terrible" and "unplayable" and "broken".

I thought that description fit every PS3 game.  :drake
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: pilonv1 on October 08, 2009, 02:53:10 AM
-Main character and he moves are fucking embarrasing.

cheeseburger surprise confirmed :drool
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: cool breeze on October 08, 2009, 03:09:21 AM
I haven't played the 360 demo and can only compare with videos, but the PS3 version definitely seems like it's missing a lot.  Frame rate, aliasing and tearing all seemed pretty bad.  Not saying the 360 version couldn't have these problems, but that wouldn't exactly make the PS3 version suddenly have better performance.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 03:09:48 AM
Confirming that the PS3 version-

-Has tearing all over the place.
-Has shit image quality in cinemas.
-Has blurry visuals.
-Has muddy textures.
-Has aliasing issues.
-Has a frame rate that is never a constant 30fps.

I'm no graphics whore, but all of this was instantly noticeable on my 1080p monitor.  I do agree about none of this affecting the game play, but there's no way I'd get this version over the 360 version, assuming that everything that's been said about it is true.  If only Sega had let Platinum Games polish this version up.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 03:34:03 AM
Graphics stuff aside, the demo was a blast.  Great control and completely over-the-top moves and combos.  Importing for sure.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: MCD on October 08, 2009, 03:38:21 AM
you have a japanese ps3? because it's region locked from what i read.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 03:40:08 AM
I do, but I also have a Japanese 360, and I'm importing that version.  Like I said, no dual system owner who is sane is going to get this on PS3.  If I didn't have a Japanese 360, I'd definitely wait for the American version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: maxy on October 08, 2009, 05:48:19 AM
God of War 3...30-60 fps...omg best game ever

Bayonetta(PS3)...30-60 fps...broken,unplayable mess

I agree with Beppo,the problem here is that 360 version exists,it happened with lots of games.

I am sure that the game has its problems,but if 30-60 fps is unplayable then 99.9% of the games released this gen on consoles are nothing than a little faster slideshow.

If controls are greatly affected by that jojo fps...well that is an another story

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2009, 05:56:46 AM
God of War 3...30-60 fps...omg best game ever

Bayonetta(PS3)...30-60 fps...broken,unplayable mess

I agree with Beppo,the problem here is that 360 version exists,it happened with lots of games.

I am sure that the game has its problems,but if 30-60 fps is unplayable then 99.9% of the games released this gen on consoles are nothing than a little faster slideshow.

If controls are greatly affected by that jojo fps...well that is an another story

It's cute that you guys are focused on the fps issue like hawks, and if that was the only issue I might be inclined to agree with you.  But what about:

Quote from: The Lyte Edge
-Has tearing all over the place.
-Has shit image quality in cinemas.
-Has blurry visuals.
-Has muddy textures.
-Has aliasing issues.

I think it's pretty obvious that there's more than just some fps inconsistency going on here.  I know Lyte irl and he's certainly not a biased console warrior or anything, so I'm forced to believe him here.  Now, no one here has played the 360 version yet but from all accounts it's superior.  What's the big fuckin deal in admitting that the PS3 version is in all probability gimped in comparison?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: maxy on October 08, 2009, 06:37:38 AM
Its not a problem to say that PS3 version is gimped,like that is something new.
If i was mean i could say that every PS3 game is gimped because of PS3  :P

Why fps?
Because Bayonetta(30-60 fps)=unplayable
Sub 30 fps games=omg,soo good

That is all,graphical issues aside.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 06:46:25 AM
Its not a problem to say that PS3 version is gimped,like that is something new.
If i was mean i could say that every PS3 game is gimped because of PS3  :P

Why fps?
Because Bayonetta(30-60 fps)=unplayable
Sub 30 fps games=omg,soo good

That is all,graphical issues aside.

Who is saying the game is unplayable?  We're saying the game has visual problems that should not be there.  The fact that despite its graphical issues, people are still enjoying the demo really says how good the game is. 

Again, no fanboy console crap is going on here.  It's just another case of Sega fuckin' up.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 06:58:49 AM
The 360 demo is up.  Bayonetta-downloadin' Gold account is needed.   :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Ninja on October 08, 2009, 07:20:09 AM
Goddamned gold restrictions. I hope the demo goes up on torrents soon.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2009, 07:26:43 AM
Stoopid regional restrictions.  I wanna get my cheeseburger on.  :punch
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Beezy on October 08, 2009, 09:02:05 AM
The 360 demo is up.  Bayonetta-downloadin' Gold account is needed.   :'(
Save us, demi! :bawl
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 09:31:19 AM
 :heartbeat demi will save us! :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bebpo on October 08, 2009, 09:48:26 AM
Not having played the X360 version or seen any vids of it, I just assumed the game was supposed to look like shit in terms of IQ.   :lol  The only media I ever saw were the first released pics which were all jaggy as hell with worse graphics than DMC.

Should be happily surprised at the X360 version :)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 09:59:46 AM
some of us are used to years of action games with solid 60fps. 


Bayonetta PS3 is about a step above Heavenly Sword.  an unstable 30fps, if that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Bebpo on October 08, 2009, 10:06:34 AM
Ok, watched a clip of the X360 demo

 :o

Makes me wish I had a progressive scan hdtv.  Looks silky smooth.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 10:10:54 AM
comparison vids:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17941826&postcount=685
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360 Gets Superior Version
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 08, 2009, 11:59:05 AM
I haven't watched the video yet but I think the PS3V looks fine. But I can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, so don't listen to me. As for the game....HOLY FUCKING SHIT I FUCKING LOVE THIS GAME.

Why is it not January  :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 08, 2009, 12:07:42 PM
What sucks is that since this most likely the final version of the game, some of the JP players may not want to pick it up because of the graphical issues and the since the PS3 version will easily be the highest seller one. It may hurt sales  :'(

Please sell well  :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 12:12:45 PM
I just woke up... making a J-account now
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Brehvolution on October 08, 2009, 12:54:10 PM
those look exactly the fucking same.
The 360 version clearly had a much higher frame rate.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 12:56:15 PM
mojo is blind.

what a sad thing for us to find out.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 12:57:26 PM
Ok I downloaded it... who wants it
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 12:58:26 PM
me plz
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 08, 2009, 12:58:56 PM
Downloading now, let's see how this fine PS3 port fares
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 01:00:27 PM
Downloading now, let's see how this fine PS3 port fares

it's perfect, don't listen to the haters
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 01:10:37 PM
who's d/ling next demi?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 01:11:32 PM
this game is so sick. i want it so bad. ninja gaiden still left in last place. DMC + Bayonetta :bow
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 01:37:27 PM
 :( :'( :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 01:48:12 PM
The move list is very canned compared to DMC4. There was no difference based on either the sword or the guns. Even the demo vid of her using the whip and claws looked the same. Maybe Bayonetta isn't better than DMC4 after all :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Bebpo on October 08, 2009, 01:51:20 PM
Doesn't seem better than DMC or NG to me.  I am a Kamiya fan, but I'm not seeing his "Bayonetta is going to be 100000x better than every other action game on the market"

Then again the combat is just too easy against these enemies to really get a feel for the battle system.  After one play it felt like DMC but more loose and floaty which is not what I would call and improvement.

When are they announcing DMC5 :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 01:54:55 PM
I know one of the achievemens is gonna be like GET PLATINUM ON EVERYTHING and I'm gonna cry
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:06:18 PM
i've seen comparisons to viewtiful joe made.

and i think they're right. it seems to be more about looking stylish than skillfully taking down your enemies.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Bebpo on October 08, 2009, 02:12:03 PM
I don't like memorizing combo strings.  It's why I don't play Tekken and at least in NG you only have to know 1 or 2 combos per weapon since it's more about timing and movement.  If you're going to have to actually learn all the combo strings to get high scores it'd be a shame.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:21:53 PM
it'd be a shame for you! sorry you suck at games :(

anyways i'm done downloading. thanks demi!
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 08, 2009, 02:24:55 PM
You don't have to memorize combos, you can make your own. Mix and mash. You can do stinger from DMC  :hyper This game is gonna be so fuck awesome. Second time through the demo and I got Gold, I'm gonna go for Platinum :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 08, 2009, 02:25:43 PM
Anyoned have a guide on setting up a PSN Japan account?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 02:39:32 PM
I know one of the achievemens is gonna be like GET PLATINUM ON EVERYTHING and I'm gonna cry


There's one higher than Platinum, at least in fights, so I imagine they have it in levels too. I think it's called Perfect Platinum or something like that.  I got it in the fight with the two guys after the fountain...not getting hit was the condition.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 08, 2009, 02:42:20 PM
can someone confirm or deny whether you can dl the demo with a usa xbl account
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 02:43:44 PM
can someone confirm or deny whether you can dl the demo with a usa xbl account

you can't. 

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Ninja on October 08, 2009, 02:47:21 PM
It's a fun game. I think I'll get the 360 version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 02:48:39 PM
Are you guys passing around a 360 account? I'd like to get in on that.  I've got a good connection, so it won't take forever.

the gaf account is gafbayonetta.  The password is probably guessable. I'd guess it's "believe" :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 02:49:34 PM
360 demos menus are already translated.

the differences in quality between the 2 demos is staggering.

and man is this game awesome. why did it have to be delayed :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2009, 03:08:39 PM
Are you guys passing around a 360 account? I'd like to get in on that.  I've got a good connection, so it won't take forever.

same here, i can wait until later tonight tho
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 08, 2009, 03:13:10 PM
Anyoned have a guide on setting up a PSN Japan account?

Just follow the steps of this tutorial. (http://bit.ly/4aTb3J)

Link doesnt work :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 08, 2009, 03:13:48 PM
oh so thats what you guys are doing?

yeah id love to get in on that

i have class 3:30-4:45 but im free otherwise
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 03:20:22 PM
as far as i know kranz is using the account now. once he's done ask em for the details
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 04:00:20 PM
Sent the details to Drew.

Wow, it's night and day.  I understand that the PS3 version is just a frame-skip nightmare.  the framerate might be 30, but the frame skipping is pretty damn bad, which is why it looks so choppy.  It's like when you run an emu with frame skip on and it doesn't look right.  and yes, that does impact gameplay, depending on how your brain/eye perceive and react to it. I'm sure PS3 tards will continue to defend it as "not that bad" and claim they can't see the difference though.

But the 360 version is where it should be.  This game is fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Beezy on October 08, 2009, 04:39:57 PM
Can someone send me the info next plz?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
not a single thank you amongs the crowd. ungrateful.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Beezy on October 08, 2009, 05:04:50 PM
not a single thank you amongs the crowd. ungrateful.
I didn't get the info yet. :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 05:10:03 PM
Thank you lord demi the almighty, I would totally toss your salad for this if you didn't live in cuba
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2009, 05:36:56 PM
I haven't got the info yet (think it's on drew now) but thanks in advance demi.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 08, 2009, 06:04:35 PM
Is it just me or is it seemingly impossible to get anything above Gold in Verse 1? I can get Platintum on everything else but not that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 06:06:31 PM
Stop getting hit, Junpei. I got Platinum just fine. When you play it like Viewtiful Joe instead of NG/DMC then it all clicks and the game folds right in front of you.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Lucretius on October 08, 2009, 07:32:35 PM
I have a japanese 360 account, but don't want to upgrade it to Gold.  Can you hook me up, demi?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Vizzys on October 08, 2009, 07:33:10 PM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZGVDV3OW
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 07:34:41 PM
I have a japanese 360 account, but don't want to upgrade it to Gold.  Can you hook me up, demi?

OK, PM
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 07:35:56 PM
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ZGVDV3OW

All you have to do is download this file and burn to a disc?  I've got the demo downloading through an account now, but this would be good for some friends...
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Vizzys on October 08, 2009, 07:41:59 PM
yep, I did the same for the re5 demo way back when
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2009, 07:44:11 PM
yep, I did the same for the re5 demo way back when

I couldn't get the RE5 demo to work after I burnt it to a disc for some reason.  :(

Can someone pm me the jpn xbl account?  I won't use it until later.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Vizzys on October 08, 2009, 07:45:45 PM
yep, I did the same for the re5 demo way back when

I couldn't get the RE5 demo to work after I burnt it to a disc for some reason.  :(

Can someone pm me the jpn xbl account?  I won't use it until later.

itll say mixed media disc on the dash, you have to go to your games list and it should be there
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Lucretius on October 08, 2009, 07:52:39 PM
I have a japanese 360 account, but don't want to upgrade it to Gold.  Can you hook me up, demi?

OK, PM

*SLURP
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 08:01:13 PM
not a single thank you amongs the crowd. ungrateful.

 :heart http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=31996.msg944358#msg944358  :heart
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 08:27:09 PM
The 360 Bayonetta's superiority over the PS3 port is noticeable almost immediately.  Even the title screen looks better.  All the issues the PS3 version has, like frame rate and image quality?  Not a problem on the 360 version.  The picture is crisp and clear, not muddy and blurry, and the frame rate is a stable 60 fps. 

The PS3 version feels like an incomplete alpha build.  It's really sad that's what the final game is going to be like.  Unsurprisingly, the 360 version is much, much better.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 08, 2009, 08:29:24 PM
Is it, really? If it plays the same who gives a shit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 08:37:50 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 09:04:44 PM
there are a few folks at b3d saying that the ps3 version is 720p

if that's true i would love to know what went wrong and made the IQ so piss poor

apparently there's a rumor going around that sega is going to keep working on it right up till it releases in other regions.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 08, 2009, 09:05:17 PM
there are a few folks at b3d saying that the ps3 version is 720p

if that's true i would love to know what went wrong and made the IQ so piss poor

Same thing that was up with the PS3 version of Ghostbusters?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 09:11:28 PM
ps3 version of ghostbusters was sub-hd. i mean it was damn near star ocean 4 battle res before it was patched. a patch which didn't add much additional res at all.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 08, 2009, 09:29:12 PM
Just got done with the PS3 demo. The 360 version must look incredible, cause I thought this looked good aside from very noticeable screen tearing.

 ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 08, 2009, 09:41:54 PM
compared to the ps3 version it most certainly does. it's also more responsive due to the higher framerate.

:bow xbox 360 :bow2

PS3: http://esegk.com/bayo/ps3.avi <- what you have to settle for :(
360: http://esegk.com/bayo/360.avi <- what i get to play :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 09:42:30 PM
Is it, really? If it plays the same who gives a shit.

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/train28/ELPRESADOR2.gif)

ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED
Sfags destroyed

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u173/train28/xflag.gif)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 08, 2009, 09:48:52 PM
I haven't got the info yet (think it's on drew now) but thanks in advance demi.

yeah i havent downloaded it yet, i got it right before i had to go to class, and have a lot of work tonight
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 10:04:18 PM
Also interesting is that the 360 demo runs in English (or whatever language your system is set to), while the PS3 demo is in Japanese (although everyone speaks English and you can have English subtitles for cut scenes).

Is it, really? If it plays the same who gives a shit.

I'll take more than double the frame rate and non-shit image quality, thanks! 

Just got done with the PS3 demo. The 360 version must look incredible, cause I thought this looked good aside from very noticeable screen tearing.

 ???

If you don't play the 360 version, then yeah, I can agree with you, but the PS3 version is running at an unstable 30fps (360 is rock solid 60) and there image quality issues...look at how blurry/muddy a lot of stuff looks.  It's very clean on 360.  I hope the finished PS3 version ends up not having these problems, but the game is only weeks away from release.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 08, 2009, 10:07:45 PM
Also interesting is that the 360 demo runs in English (or whatever language your system is set to), while the PS3 demo is in Japanese (although everyone speaks English and you can have English subtitles for cut scenes).

Makes total sense.  Only Japs and Wapanese will get the PS3 version. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Vizzys on October 08, 2009, 10:24:44 PM
ok so i just tried the 360 version and its sooo much better, everything is much clearer.

nothing new really, just restating the ps3 version is a blurry screen tearing failure

also confirming that rip i posted works

edit: plus the menus are in english and the clock tower stuff was cool looking. The ps3 version has some rival/sister fight the 360 version didnt though, I guess to make up for it
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 10:52:32 PM
but the falling clock tower is about a 1000X better than that boss fight.  8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 08, 2009, 10:53:21 PM
i sent out the details to thecardcheat

never tell me that i hold grudges

if you want it pm me or something

except im about to get on within the hour

so if you see me on MOVE BITCH GET OUT THE WAY
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 10:56:12 PM
does she say "fuck off" when she uppercuts a guy the hair fist?   :-\

also, is this game social commentary on how japanese women don't shave?  :-\
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 10:56:52 PM
that would be awesome if she did :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: bork on October 08, 2009, 10:57:41 PM
but the falling clock tower is about a 1000X better than that boss fight.  8)

The PS3 version has longer boss fights on that train station stage, too.  But it's dumb comparing what content is in one demo than the other.  The end result will be the same...it's just that the 360 version is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PS3 version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 08, 2009, 10:59:29 PM
bububububuububu it plays the same!
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 08, 2009, 11:01:12 PM
but the falling clock tower is about a 1000X better than that boss fight.  8)

The PS3 version has longer boss fights on that train station stage, too.  But it's dumb comparing what content is in one demo than the other.  The end result will be the same...it's just that the 360 version is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PS3 version.


ah, true.  Kinda annoying how the 360 version cuts off half way through that fight. The end of the fight is like 3 minutes away at that point too.  Not like it would spoil the game to leave it in :lol


Quote
bububububuububu it plays the same!


Frameskips screwing up your inputs are just another gameplay element!!!
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2009, 11:30:55 PM
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Demo was like 95% downloaded and it looks like the jp profile demi set up got nuked. 

Thank you anyway, drew, that was nice of you.

Gonna try and use the megaupload link viz posted.  If I can't get my cheeseburger on with Bayonetta tonight I'll make a fat disgusting cheeseburger in SR2 for some mayhem.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 08, 2009, 11:35:30 PM
Tip if you dont want to use a dvd or cd for the demo if you have a HDD transfer cable. You can download "xport" or "explorer 360" then download the demo hook up your hdd to the computer and look for the content folder. Drop in the demo and your good to go.

Personally between the two its like night and day. It can't come out sooner on 360 for me and the misses.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 11:35:50 PM
It didnt get nuked, someone might have recovered it. Re-recover, your progress should still be there.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 08, 2009, 11:36:01 PM
i didnt even download it yet

excuse me while i kill myself
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Beezy on October 08, 2009, 11:36:06 PM
Sorry Card Cheat, I guess it stopped yours when I got on. :(

I just got off, try again.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 08, 2009, 11:36:51 PM
Tip if you dont want to use a dvd or cd for the demo if you have a HDD transfer cable. You can download "xport" or "explorer 360" then download the demo hook up your hdd to the computer and look for the content folder. Drop in the demo and your good to go.

Personally between the two its like night and day. It can't come out sooner on 360 for me and the misses.

You can do that? I have a transfer cable, didnt thnk it would be useful beyond moving content.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 08, 2009, 11:38:52 PM
looks like i spoke too soon, i got dibs after beezy, i need to hook up my xbox in the living room anyways, pm me when youre done or say something here so ill know pls thx
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: G The Resurrected on October 08, 2009, 11:40:01 PM
Oh hell yeah its hella usefull. You can move around all kinds of things. If your using the xport software from datel (free on the datel site) the content is under partition 3 on the 120gb hdd. You can copy saves, move profiles, and install themes from OXM discs you download.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 08, 2009, 11:40:35 PM
Sorry Card Cheat, I guess it stopped yours when I got on. :(

I just got off, try again.

thanks, i'll let you know when i'm done
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Beezy on October 08, 2009, 11:45:00 PM
Let drew know, I already finished my download.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: drew on October 09, 2009, 12:09:07 AM
yeah im gonna go download it now, i assume triumph is done because he was @ 95%
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 09, 2009, 12:33:37 AM
Yeah I'm done, game is pretty hilariously fruity.  Solid enough seeming action title that looks pretty on the 360- can't speak to the PS3 issues since I don't have one but on the 360 everything looks really good.  Game plays like an easier Ninja Gaiden on acid, but in a good way.  Still looks like it's in the "will buy when it drops in price" category for me, since these sorts of titles aren't my bread and butter.  Definitely makes for an interesting diversion tho, and the main character is as cheeseburger-licious as advertised.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 09, 2009, 01:22:04 AM
http://www.filefront.com/14678885/Angel-attack.mp3/

Great music eh Triumph.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Beezy on October 09, 2009, 01:25:28 AM
 :lol @ her taunts. This game owns, I wish it didn't get delayed. :'(

When is the new release date?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 09, 2009, 01:27:18 AM
January 5th according to Sega's document thing that got released.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 09, 2009, 01:37:50 AM
whoa, there's another fight back at the starting point if you go back after the fountain fight.  nice!  it's pretty tough too.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 09, 2009, 01:42:49 AM
http://www.filefront.com/14678885/Angel-attack.mp3/

Great music eh Triumph.

No, it's pretty fuckin' fruity, but it fits well with the game since the whole thing is one big ball of ridiculousness. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: demi on October 09, 2009, 01:46:26 AM
DMC4 fight music > this lady gaga bullshit

Go to hell Junpei

DMC4 > Bayonetta
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 09, 2009, 02:22:49 AM
Gawd it's losing vsync like crazy, the screen is tearing in places I didn't know the screen could tear before

This game looks like it's falling apart on PS3
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 09, 2009, 02:23:50 AM
it tears a good bit on the 360 too.  but not the perma-tearing that seems to happen on the PS3.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2009, 02:26:29 AM
http://www.gfdata.de/archiv09-2009-gamefront/4534.html

(http://i35.tinypic.com/293vrxf.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/102qpue.jpg)

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2wn8txd.jpg)
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2lm6t94.jpg)

(http://i33.tinypic.com/286u9f4.jpg)
(http://i37.tinypic.com/2eevof6.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 09, 2009, 02:41:06 AM
The PS3 version is significantly blurrier and the colors seem more washed out. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 09, 2009, 02:50:41 AM
The PS3 version is significantly blurrier and the colors seem more washed out. 

The 360 is definitely crisper. After all the doom and gloom I was expecting a total disaster going into the PS3 demo, and I got something that was far from it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: bork on October 09, 2009, 03:01:12 AM
The PS3 version is significantly blurrier and the colors seem more washed out. 

The 360 is definitely crisper. After all the doom and gloom I was expecting a total disaster going into the PS3 demo, and I got something that was far from it.

The biggest difference is the frame rate.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 09, 2009, 03:04:58 AM
The PS3 version is significantly blurrier and the colors seem more washed out. 

The 360 is definitely crisper. After all the doom and gloom I was expecting a total disaster going into the PS3 demo, and I got something that was far from it.

The biggest difference is the frame rate.

I saw a TON of screen tearing, but aside from that I never noticed drops in the frame rate discernable to the human eye. I tried to do everything I could in-game to kill the frame rate, but it wasn't happening. That, or I seriously can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 FPS.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: bork on October 09, 2009, 03:26:23 AM
The PS3 version is significantly blurrier and the colors seem more washed out. 

The 360 is definitely crisper. After all the doom and gloom I was expecting a total disaster going into the PS3 demo, and I got something that was far from it.

The biggest difference is the frame rate.

I saw a TON of screen tearing, but aside from that I never noticed drops in the frame rate discernable to the human eye. I tried to do everything I could in-game to kill the frame rate, but it wasn't happening. That, or I seriously can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 FPS.

I didn't watch any videos, I compared the two demos directly.  The moment you start playing the 360 version, it is instantly noticeable that the frame rate is 60fps, rock solid, and that the image quality is a lot better.  The PS3 version on its own is fine, but it gets spanked all over the place by the 360 version.  This isn't one of those cases where one version is slightly better than the other to the point that the differences aren't even noticeable unless you're looking for them; it's HUGE.

Why the fuck is Sega allowing the game to stay like this on PS3?  Wouldn't that be the lead platform in Japan?  SMH.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2009, 04:42:09 AM
another one: http://scrawlfx.com/gallery/bayonetta/october-8-2009/Bayonetta_2009_10-08-09_15.jpg.php

(http://i33.tinypic.com/2lv20x0.gif)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Jansen on October 09, 2009, 05:01:28 AM
it's funny to see sfags continue to downplay the issues with the shit ps3 port

"bububut i didn't notice any framedrops or screen tearing!!"

all i can recommend for those that claim they don't notice such things is either seeing an optometrist or pulling yer head outta sony's ass
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2009, 05:43:10 AM
playing it now...


THE MUSIC OMG :rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: chronovore on October 09, 2009, 07:09:17 AM
Tip if you dont want to use a dvd or cd for the demo if you have a HDD transfer cable. You can download "xport" or "explorer 360" then download the demo hook up your hdd to the computer and look for the content folder. Drop in the demo and your good to go.

Personally between the two its like night and day. It can't come out sooner on 360 for me and the misses.

Leave it as a .RAR and drop it in, or just toss the decompressed contents in, higgledy piggledy?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2009, 08:59:47 AM
decompressed contents of course.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: MCD on October 09, 2009, 09:09:56 AM
this game is too hectic, too much shit going on in the screen.

between sonic rings, the enemies and all the effects...

shit sux.

dmc4/ng2 > this turd.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO G
Post by: dark1x on October 09, 2009, 09:20:47 AM
Gawd it's losing vsync like crazy, the screen is tearing in places I didn't know the screen could tear before

This game looks like it's falling apart on PS3
Yeah, it's an absolute mess.  It's a shame Platinum Games did not handle the port on their own, though I suppose the situation suggests that they would have had problems as well.  This feels like the PS3 Orange Box situation or something.  The PS3 version is not worthy of a retail release at this point.  Seems like the team porting it was both at the mercy of Platinum and learning the PS3 hardware.  What's more disappointing is the fact that the game doesn't even look as nice as DMC4.  >_<

Still, at least they didn't attempt a Wii version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Flannel Boy on October 09, 2009, 09:38:40 AM
 :gloomy Budget GPU  :gloomy
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th -- X360-Superior Version OMG THIS SO GOOD
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 09, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
this game is too hectic, too much shit going on in the screen.

between sonic rings, the enemies and all the effects...

shit sux.

dmc4/ng2 > this turd.

smh
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 09, 2009, 11:33:33 AM
That was the last time I went through it. I really suck at dodging, I'm too inpatient. This is it guys, THIS IS THE FUTURE!

DMC4>BayonettaDemo>Everything else. DMC4 is on top for now but when the full game comes out, it's crown is gone.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 09, 2009, 11:51:23 AM
::)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: demi on October 09, 2009, 12:03:02 PM
Even Junpei admits bayonetta is underwhelming... you cant beat the king
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 09, 2009, 12:03:17 PM
Haters gonna hate.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 09, 2009, 12:06:11 PM
cheeseburgers gonna snip they meat and two veg.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: demi on October 09, 2009, 12:11:31 PM
Haters gonna hate.

Bayonetta is DMC for distinguished mentally-challenged fellows, admit it. Why bother putting "Automatic" in when Normal mode is exactly that?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: drew on October 09, 2009, 12:42:03 PM
i actually kind of liked it :-[
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: demi on October 09, 2009, 12:44:51 PM
Oh Bayonetta is awesome, but it's just not as good as DMC4. DMC4 is the evolution of action games... this is like, the side-step version, a stopgap. A cheeseburger.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 09, 2009, 12:49:50 PM
cheeseburgers gonna snip they meat and two veg.

Oh Bayonetta is awesome, but it's just not as good as DMC4. DMC4 is the evolution of action games... this is like, the side-step version, a stopgap. A cheeseburger.

 :rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: drew on October 09, 2009, 01:08:44 PM
i cant really make a solid opinion until i get a grasp on the combos, but from what i played i thought i could really get into this game, thats all i really expect from an action game demo
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 09, 2009, 01:59:13 PM
Demi, check out the PC version of DMC4 if you ever want to play it again. 

It has a mode which doubles the amount of enemies.  There's a trainer which lets you unlock everything so you don't need to go through the trouble of beating it several times. 

Prole says in the Borecast that it can be found now for $6 or so. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: demi on October 09, 2009, 02:05:10 PM
No achievements, dont care. And why would I use a trainer? No skill  ::)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: drew on October 09, 2009, 02:07:12 PM
i really like the purgatory esque combo practice loading screen

i hope theres a mode like that outside of when the game loads
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 09, 2009, 02:32:59 PM
I fear and look foward to seeing the achivement/trophies. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a get Pure Platinum on everything or a mode where you can only damage enemies while in Witch Time.

 :'( I don't think I'm skilled enough for that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Smooth Groove on October 09, 2009, 03:08:40 PM
And why would I use a trainer? No skill  ::)

'cause Capcom is dumb and you would have to beat the game twice to unlock the special mode with extra enemies. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 09, 2009, 03:14:19 PM
It's a 15 minute demo with what seem to be the average enemies.  Whether it's any good or not will be determined by everything over normal.  Or maybe we just an easy slice and normal will be a half decent challenge. 

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 09, 2009, 09:24:22 PM
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.php?p=1345647&postcount=691

Quote
BAYONETTA DEMO Capture1

360 http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/422/
PS3 http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/423/

360 Average(47.973) Tearing(28.776%) Min-Max(30.0-60.0)
PS3 Average(33.443) Tearing(52.804%) Min-Max(20.0-51.5)

PS3 http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/424/

:rofl :rofl :rofl

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 09, 2009, 09:27:43 PM
told yas it dropped to 20  8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 09, 2009, 09:31:28 PM
the 360's framerate would be even higher if it didn't take the cutscenes (which are capped at 30fps) into account
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 10, 2009, 03:52:31 AM
oh my gawd the ps3 one never even hits 60?

RSX budget gpu  :gloomy
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on October 10, 2009, 10:55:51 AM
Wow Xbots grasping for straws at a demo jesus.


The game plays, looks, and runs fine. THere's even a quick look on giant bomb of the ps3 verison and it looks amazing.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: jiji on October 10, 2009, 11:00:04 AM
screen tearing  :yuck :yuck :yuck

I played the PS3 demo, and it's a proper action game. I wasn't expecting to like it, since I was never a DMC fan, but now I feel like getting it. But only for 360.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 10, 2009, 01:17:52 PM
:gloomy lower res textures  :gloomy
:gloomy 50% of all frames torn :gloomy
:gloomy can barely manage 30fps :gloomy
:gloomy ps3 :gloomy
 :spin stards :spin
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 10, 2009, 01:20:12 PM
Wow Xbots grasping for straws at a demo jesus.


The game plays, looks, and runs fine. THere's even a quick look on giant bomb of the ps3 verison and it looks amazing.

super denial.  I haven't seen a game run like this since the first year of the 360.  but the tearing is even worse than those games. 50% :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 10, 2009, 01:50:31 PM
Wow Xbots grasping for straws at a demo jesus.


The game plays, looks, and runs fine. THere's even a quick look on giant bomb of the ps3 verison and it looks amazing.

:drake
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: maxy on October 10, 2009, 03:15:16 PM
This is a 15+ fps game on PS3,lol...it could pass for RPG,but fast action game,uh oh
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: fistfulofmetal on October 10, 2009, 05:23:57 PM
this is one wacky ass game
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Van Cruncheon on October 10, 2009, 09:47:19 PM
wow, i am not sure if this game is 101% distinguished mentally-challenged or 101% awesome
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 10, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
wow, i am not sure if this game is 101% distinguished mentally-challenged or 101% awesome

i like to call it 110% retardedly awesome

it sure is fruity, tho, and could have only been birthed in Weeabooland
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: The Fake Shemp on October 10, 2009, 10:00:30 PM
 :gloomy rsx budget gpu :gloomy

Yet another third-party title to add to the superior Microsoft library.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 10, 2009, 10:04:21 PM
NIPPON BANZAI (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2166312973_1d32c4396f_o.gif)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Beezy on October 12, 2009, 10:58:46 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/57566.html

How can anyone hate on this game? It obviously doesn't take itself seriously. :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 12, 2009, 11:15:06 PM
wow, i am not sure if this game is 101% distinguished mentally-challenged or 101% awesome

i like to call it 110% retardedly awesome

it sure is fruity, tho, and could have only been birthed in Weeabooland


(http://i35.tinypic.com/1ihjj9.png)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: drew on October 12, 2009, 11:27:53 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/57566.html

how do you do this move? :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 13, 2009, 03:34:38 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/57566.html

how do you do this move? :o

It's apparently not in the demo version...
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 18, 2009, 05:22:16 PM
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-%22bayonetta%22-70-3hjd.html

"No Region Protection"

???
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 18, 2009, 05:27:14 PM
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-%22bayonetta%22-70-3hjd.html

"No Region Protection"

???

Did they announce that the PS3 version would be locked?  I thought it was just the 360 version as usual.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 18, 2009, 05:38:01 PM
pretty sure they mentioned ps3 on gaf somewhere.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 18, 2009, 06:02:13 PM
That would be a first.  I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: iconoclast on October 18, 2009, 06:06:09 PM
I fear and look foward to seeing the achivement/trophies. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a get Pure Platinum on everything or a mode where you can only damage enemies while in Witch Time.

 :'( I don't think I'm skilled enough for that.

 :drool
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 18, 2009, 10:37:59 PM
why would they add region protection when no one in their right mind would buy such a shitty port?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 18, 2009, 11:17:55 PM
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=ps3+bayonetta+region+locked&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&aqi=&oq=&fp=1&cad=b

dunno really if it will affect PS3 version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: chronovore on October 19, 2009, 05:05:09 AM
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-15-%22bayonetta%22-70-3hjd.html

"No Region Protection"

???

Did they announce that the PS3 version would be locked?  I thought it was just the 360 version as usual.

I don't think Sony supports region locking games on the PS3. I thought all PS3 games were playable on all PS3s, TV format (NTSC/PAL/SECAM/moonlanguage) excepted.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 20, 2009, 05:30:47 AM
So now some sites are saying that Sega has given Famitsu moneyhats-- Bayonetta rates a 40/40...





...For both versions.  I LOL'd. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 20, 2009, 06:29:43 AM
fake score
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 20, 2009, 10:14:11 AM
More proof that bayonetta is better than brutal legend...sega cared enough to pay for a perfect score.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 20, 2009, 10:24:52 AM
seems like the majority of people aren't aware of famitsu's review practices. i though how the hand out scores was well known.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: chronovore on October 20, 2009, 11:49:46 AM
I played the demo recently, and was surprised how much I like it. The encouragement to hold off on blocking, to activate the slow-time, which in turn increases bonuses... it was all pretty cool, but it would have been crap if the basic controls weren't as accessible as they are.

Devil May Cry isn't my thing, but this was actually fun. Is this what Viewtiful Joe was like?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Sho Nuff on October 20, 2009, 12:46:26 PM
Oh Famitsu  :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 20, 2009, 04:23:42 PM
It is well known, but it's annoying how upfront they are about it.

i thought pretty much everyone knew about it to until i read the latest gaf famitsu thread.

then again they're prolly just wanting any justification for how awesome they think the game is and even a paid for review will do.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: chronovore on October 20, 2009, 08:20:18 PM
My assumption has always been that they come back with a score, show the studio, and the marketing department takes the guy from Famitsuu into another room, where they "discuss" it. In my most cynical versions, the Famitsuu guy takes out a little menu, with +1, +2, and +3 on it, with a little price next to each of them. The prices are exponentially more expensive. I also assume there's a +4 that's not on the menu, with a price tag only SQUEENIX can afford.

Oh, there's also the "Please delay the publication of the review" menu item, which is a freebie provided you also pay for one of the others. This is the only way I can explain the 32 or 33 Dirge of Cerebus received on a review which came out something like 3 weeks after launch.

Q: When does a Square game EVER get late attention from Famitsuu? A:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
When they request it.
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Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 20, 2009, 08:58:59 PM
why so long
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Beezy on October 20, 2009, 10:29:32 PM
That poster reminds me of this:

(http://www.strictlysocial.com/journal/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/flashdance.jpg)

PS3 review :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Himu on October 20, 2009, 10:32:09 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 20, 2009, 11:18:57 PM
(http://scrawlfx.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bayonetta-famitsu-review-scan.jpg)

360: 40/40
PS3: 38/40

Justice is served.

...By a little bit.  Still nice to know Famitsu played each version for at least five minutes.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on October 20, 2009, 11:56:45 PM
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2686/4029778537_d8f2fd5dd5_b.jpg)

here is one of those shibuya posters.

Someone should teach her basic gun safety. She's going to shoot Marvin in the face.
[youtube=560,345]ec-8mD_BhrU[/youtube]
But seriously, there's a scan in the new issue of Famitsu of a new Tekken 6 character, does anyone have it?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 21, 2009, 12:08:40 AM
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3412/44183tk6122240lo.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on October 21, 2009, 12:10:30 AM
Thanks.  :-*
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: iconoclast on October 21, 2009, 12:14:57 AM
The sheep stage in T6 is the best stage ever in a 3D fighter.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 21, 2009, 12:27:38 AM
Consider me a sheep from now on.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 12:51:20 AM
From the description, it's hard to tell if that's a new character or just a new costume, presumably for Kazuya.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Jansen on October 21, 2009, 01:22:15 AM
(http://i33.tinypic.com/167a8hk.jpg)

WTF DID THEY DO TO BAHAMUT!!!

this is an outrage!!
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Beezy on October 21, 2009, 01:24:49 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 21, 2009, 01:47:00 AM
Well, it wasn't cheeseburger but it was a surprise.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 21, 2009, 01:47:49 AM
of course I'm getting FFXIII day 1, but man, everything about the art design screams "this is going to be the cheesiest shit ever."
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: ferrarimanf355 on October 21, 2009, 02:01:00 AM
From the description, it's hard to tell if that's a new character or just a new costume, presumably for Kazuya.


They say it's a new character, I think.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Beezy on October 21, 2009, 02:11:28 AM
of course I'm getting FFXIII day 1, but man, everything about the art design screams "this is going to be the cheesiest shit ever."
How can you say that about another game in a Bayonetta thread? :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 02:19:02 AM
From the description, it's hard to tell if that's a new character or just a new costume, presumably for Kazuya.


They say it's a new character, I think.

Naw, it's a Kazuya costume.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQxDtS3Rvr4[/youtube]

Makes me want to use him now, since it's so GUYVER! :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: iconoclast on October 21, 2009, 02:34:41 AM
God I hope Tekken has netcode that is at least on par with VF5. SC4 netcode was  :yuck
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 02:37:06 AM
God I hope Tekken has netcode that is at least on par with VF5. SC4 netcode was  :yuck

I was just playing SC4 online (on both systems) today.  The netcode is fine if your internet connection doesn't suck. 

People have already said it's improved over SC4, but no one will no for sure until everyone gets online.  But SC4, HD Remix, MvC2, SF4, BB...all these games have good (amazing in BB's case) netcode.  Only KOF XII is fucked up.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: iconoclast on October 21, 2009, 02:46:17 AM
SC4 netcode is fine if you're playing in absolutely optimal conditions (green bar in SF4 basically). It falls apart FAST on anything lower.

That's half the reason Killik was (is?) so popular. The king of lag tactics!

edit: I should say I haven't played it in a long time, so maybe the netcode was improved through patches.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 21, 2009, 02:58:57 AM
too many women in FF13.

need more MEN.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: iconoclast on October 21, 2009, 03:32:10 AM
Needs more men who look like women.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 03:36:15 AM
SC4 netcode is fine if you're playing in absolutely optimal conditions (green bar in SF4 basically). It falls apart FAST on anything lower.

That's half the reason Killik was (is?) so popular. The king of lag tactics!

edit: I should say I haven't played it in a long time, so maybe the netcode was improved through patches.

I don't know how it was in 2008 -I was in Japan and lag was not an issue unless playing people outside the country- but back in the States, I play it from time to time and don't have any problems.    A level 3 bar might cause an issue, but usually I play people with 4 and 5 bars.  No problems.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 03:43:03 AM
too many women in FF13.

need more MEN.

More "men" like Tidus and Vaan?   :teehee
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Bildi on October 21, 2009, 04:09:16 AM
of course I'm getting FFXIII day 1, but man, everything about the art design screams "this is going to be the cheesiest shit ever."
How can you say that about another game in a Bayonetta thread? :lol

It's deliberate in Bayonetta.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 21, 2009, 04:13:34 AM
too many women in FF13.

need more MEN.

More "men" like Tidus and Vaan?   :teehee
or Sasuke-Kun  :-[
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 04:50:53 AM
too many women in FF13.

need more MEN.

More "men" like Tidus and Vaan?   :teehee
or Sasuke-Kun  :-[

 ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 21, 2009, 04:57:35 AM
OBLIGATORY

[youtube=560,345]t4QTRCH3kI8[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4QTRCH3kI8
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 05:16:54 AM
I dunno, I don't follow Naruto at all, but Sasuke at least looks like a dude.  Not like, y'know...Meg Ryan.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: MCD on October 21, 2009, 05:23:42 AM
oh well.

in the end it's finalu fantaji, we will play it even with all cheeseburger cast.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 21, 2009, 05:33:05 AM
Not me! 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 21, 2009, 11:19:00 AM
of course I'm getting FFXIII day 1, but man, everything about the art design screams "this is going to be the cheesiest shit ever."
How can you say that about another game in a Bayonetta thread? :lol


Bayonetta is like an exploitation film, but Final Fantasy is always trying to be deep and high class. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2009, 07:04:42 AM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2686/4029778537_d8f2fd5dd5_b.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2686/4029778537_d8f2fd5dd5_b.jpg)

here is one of those shibuya posters.

Yeah, that's it. Saw those often as I made my various trips around Tokyo.

WEEABOO! GO HUG YOUR KASUMI PILLOW!
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:-*
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: chronovore on October 23, 2009, 01:00:49 PM
Naw, that's just a "finger massager." Massages your fingers.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 26, 2009, 12:32:42 PM
Live Broadcast if you wanna spoil yourself.

http://zh-tw.justin.tv/lizardman19

[youtube=560,345]foGbPVGvanw[/youtube]

smh japan
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 26, 2009, 12:45:06 PM
That boss fight was awesome. Super blackout now.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 26, 2009, 02:44:20 PM
Jesus Christ this has got to be the fruitiest fucking thing ever.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 26, 2009, 02:59:00 PM
-1 sale
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 26, 2009, 03:56:54 PM
This game is gonna be so awesome.

Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 26, 2009, 04:03:56 PM
You guys would be just missing out on the best action game ever made. Don't let me deter you.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 26, 2009, 04:04:14 PM
"Preparing order"

:hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Robo on October 26, 2009, 04:27:26 PM
Still better than Brutal Legend.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on October 26, 2009, 04:40:49 PM
I'm not down with games that attempt to embarrass the owner as much as they can.  Plus Junpei is all over this title so I'm assuming the LE comes with a love pillow sheet and a trance vibrator.

Still better than Brutal Legend.

As if that is an achievement.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 27, 2009, 05:25:00 AM
http://scrawlfx.com/2009/10/bayonettas-mini-skirt-white-t-shirt-costumes

Because Bayonetta getting nude during combos wasn't enough!
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 27, 2009, 10:49:03 AM
http://scrawlfx.com/2009/10/bayonettas-mini-skirt-white-t-shirt-costumes

Because Bayonetta getting nude during combos wasn't enough!

Jesus Christ, is that an SD tv or is that the PS3 version?
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 27, 2009, 03:38:03 PM
http://scrawlfx.com/2009/10/bayonettas-mini-skirt-white-t-shirt-costumes

Because Bayonetta getting nude during combos wasn't enough!

Jesus Christ, is that an SD tv or is that the PS3 version?

Shitty camera, methinks.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: bork on October 29, 2009, 12:47:36 PM
Just finished playing the prologue mission...ended with 38 minutes on the clock!  The game's got a slick presentation and is full of humor.  After the falling clock tower intro, You start out in a graveyard, and opening credits have some of the development staff's name on them.  Kamiya's tombstone is the last one, and it gets defaced by Enzo (the Joe Pesci soundalike) pissing on it.   :lol  There was also a Viewtiful Joe tombstone just visible in one of the cut scenes, and speaking of those, there's a shit-ton of them, but everything is pretty entertaining to watch.
Title: Re: Bayonetta cheeseburger Surprise October 8th-I should've been a pole dancer!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 29, 2009, 01:00:35 PM
lyte edge sama  :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta-January 5th(US) and 8th(EU) CLIMAX ACTION IS NEAR.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 29, 2009, 03:08:22 PM
http://www.sega.com/news/?n=3593

I can't wait so fucking excited.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 29, 2009, 07:29:05 PM
Bayonetta isn't a cheeseburger  :(

http://blog.livedoor.jp/htmk73/archives/558941.html
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on October 29, 2009, 07:34:29 PM
keep tellin' yourself that:
(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/htmk73/imgs/e/d/ed6a7b7a.jpg)


:lol


This is gonna be the greatest twist in a video game since Drake committed suicide at the end of Uncharted 2.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 29, 2009, 08:24:02 PM
Bayonetta isn't a cheeseburger  :(

http://blog.livedoor.jp/htmk73/archives/558941.html

That link points out all the instances of bulge and comments on it.  :rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on October 29, 2009, 08:26:14 PM
The achievements are MUCH better than DMC4. There's one for earning 10 Platinums, and there's one for earning Platinum in Verse 1 and 2 on Chapter 14 (final level?)

The rest are collecting based it seems. There's also beat the game on Normal, Hard and ????? (it says ????? but its worth 100 pts)

I see DCharlie playing so I checked his achievements
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 29, 2009, 08:30:11 PM
Bayonetta = DMC KILLER

It has a lot more fun with itself than DMC ever did.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 29, 2009, 10:31:27 PM
Dammit I want this game NOW, but the uber weeabo import tax is too much for me.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 29, 2009, 10:45:41 PM
The merchant-weaponsmith guy who you buy stuff from just went "Hey, check this out-- WHADDYA BUYIN?!  Heh heh, heard that in a game once!"   :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on October 29, 2009, 11:04:10 PM
The achievements are MUCH better than DMC4. There's one for earning 10 Platinums, and there's one for earning Platinum in Verse 1 and 2 on Chapter 14 (final level?)

The rest are collecting based it seems. There's also beat the game on Normal, Hard and ????? (it says ????? but its worth 100 pts)

I see DCharlie playing so I checked his achievements

There's no achievement for Platinuming every level on the highest difficulty or something? Lame. My only problem with the DMC4 achievements was they made you S rank all the lower level difficulties. Other than that I thought they were pretty much perfect.


 :piss Sega for delaying this.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 30, 2009, 11:19:01 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176710

Quote
Given the first-hand reports, Famitsu review scores, and general impressions coming out of this year's Tokyo Game Show, it's not exactly news that the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions of Platinum Games' Bayonetta differ. But when our import copies of the game (which just released in Japan, and will be available in the U.S. on January 5th) arrived yesterday, I was determined to sort out the extent of that difference.
Over the past two days, I've spent about 12 hours split between the two versions, and I've ended up very disappointed the PS3 game. All the complaints you may have heard -- that it looks faded and blurry, and struggles through its framerate -- are true, and more significant than I've seen in any PS3/360 game in recent memory. The 360 version runs into occasional light framerate issues, but nothing that really affects the game. The PS3 version feels sluggish for the majority of the game -- at least, when put side-by-side with the 360 one.
You can check out our video comparison above, but I recommend checking out the larger downloadable versions on GameVideos, because these are the kinds of differences that are hard to spot in the Flash player (and in some ways are even hard to spot in the downloadable versions).

Since the stars lined up so spectacularly that the two versions don't ship in the U.S. until January 5th, but you can import the Japanese versions now, but only the Japanese PS3 version will work on U.S. consoles, I don't have an easy recommendation for the best way to play the game (unless you have enough cash to buy a Japanese 360). I've come to the conclusion, though, that the differences are significant enough that -- if you have the choice -- it's worth waiting until January to play the U.S. 360 game instead of importing the Japanese PS3 one now. If you only own a PS3 and don't plan to pick up a 360 at any point, the PS3 version is still a good game, but in my mind waiting a few months is worth the quality difference.
Of course, that's assuming that the only differences between the Japanese and U.S. versions will be their region lock. Bayonetta director Hideki Kamiya told us at this year's Tokyo Game Show that he has no plans to add new content for the U.S. release, but that wasn't regarding the game's performance. It's possible that Sega will improve the PS3 version in the next few months. I've asked, but haven't heard anything back from them on the possibility.

There are GAFfots saying that the game has load time when you HIT THE PAUSE BUTTON on the PS3 version.   :lol

Even sprsk regrets his decision.   :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 30, 2009, 11:26:01 AM
Bayonetta = DMC KILLER

It has a lot more fun with itself than DMC ever did.
DMC1 & 3 were the only decent ones the rest were garbage.

I really liked 3 though, this one tops it? Elaborate!

I haven't really played 3 yet.   :-[  The game just feels smoother than the other DMCs I've played (and also Ninja Gaiden), plus the combo system letting you cancel stuff with the dodge button and go into other combos is fuck-awesome.  The moves you can get, like the breakdancing attack, are also stylish as hell.  And being able to pick up enemy weapons and make use of them is something that all of these types of games should have had in the first place!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 30, 2009, 11:38:54 AM
I wish some people at GAF would stop complaining about the PS3 version. It's bad, we know. CONSTANTLY complaining will not make it magically go away. All they do is bitch. SHUT UP. Oh and the loading when pausing was in the demo too  :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 30, 2009, 11:59:45 AM
I wish that one day PS3 fans will realize that there's something inherently inferior about the PS3's hardware that's causing a vast majority of all multi-platform games to look better on the Xbox 360. Sure they can blame development effort but in reality that's just due to poor hardware infrastructure and middleware that's encouraging developers to not give a fuck because Sony clearly didn't.

I think it's the developer in this case.  There's no reason why Bayonetta should look and perform that much worse on the PS3.  It wouldn't be a surprise to find out that Platinum Games had no intention of ever releasing a PS3 version during development.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on October 30, 2009, 12:50:44 PM
This is just further proof that some idiots (sprks) will cut off their noses to spite their faces.  First of all, at this point there's NO REASON not to own a 360, even if you're a weeaboo.  And if you do own one and want this game, apparently there's no question which version is superior.  Stupid fucking s-tards.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on October 30, 2009, 12:53:17 PM
his argument is the dualshock controller which he can get an adapter for it with ease online.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on October 30, 2009, 01:13:55 PM
I can't stand the Sony fans in the gaf Bayonetta thread. They're so fucked in the head.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: ch1nchilla on October 30, 2009, 01:17:11 PM
Was going to pick this up on PS3, not anymore. Thanks, Bore.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on October 30, 2009, 01:34:29 PM
Jinfash will make a very fine addition to the Xclan.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 30, 2009, 01:37:45 PM
his argument is the dualshock controller which he can get an adapter for it with ease online.

Like it even matters for this game.   :lol  There's no problem with the 360 controller; this is not a fighting game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Akala on October 30, 2009, 02:26:36 PM
I have no pity for anyone buying this on PS3. The gulf in quality was shown much earlier than the average shoddy multiplat release. Anyone even remotely interested in the game has known the PS3 rev was going to be garbage for a while now.


Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on October 30, 2009, 04:23:46 PM
This is just further proof that some idiots (sprks) will cut off their noses to spite their faces.  First of all, at this point there's NO REASON not to own a 360, even if you're a weeaboo.  And if you do own one and want this game, apparently there's no question which version is superior.  Stupid fucking s-tards.

There's no question about it. The only people I see buying this on the PS3 are casuals, the I-don't-care-about-graphics crowd, and crazy console-warriors who care enough about NPD to $60 on this shoddy port.

I'm getting a 360 when this game gets released (about friggin' time) but there's no way in hell am I getting this on the PS3. I don't want my named dragged through the mud and my family disowning me.

:hyper
You will not regret this decision. I know I haven't.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Jansen on October 30, 2009, 04:52:32 PM
I wonder what resolution both version run at; if it's already sub-HD on the PS3 then that adds insult to injury, but if it's not I wonder had they decided to make it run at a lower res would that free enough resources to improve the framerate.

both are 720p but the texture resolution on ps3 is paired back significantly. that along with the nasty blur on cutscenes make the ps3 ver appear sub-hd. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 30, 2009, 09:01:38 PM
I just got the God Of War 3 E3 Demo.

Bayonetta is so much better.   :usacry
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on October 31, 2009, 12:24:37 AM
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/10/30/bayonetta_first_day_sales/

Bayonetta sold better than Tekken 6 on the first day.  :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Akala on October 31, 2009, 02:41:20 AM
god of war actually sucks. no one cool disagrees.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 31, 2009, 04:48:18 PM
I finally tried the 360 demo and wow, the PS3 one is shit compared to this.  But why isn't the boss fight in the 360 demo?

 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on October 31, 2009, 05:08:37 PM
I finally tried the 360 demo and wow, the PS3 one is shit compared to this.  But why isn't the boss fight in the 360 demo?

 

I hesitate to even call that encounter a "boss fight" after seeing what comes later.   :)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: cool breeze on October 31, 2009, 05:24:13 PM
Based on their demos, what's gonna be the action game of '10, swaggaz: GoW or Bayonetta? :hyper

Bayonetta.  I'm someone who likes both GoW and the real action games and usually don't like to compare.  But when it comes to the action, Bayonetta/DMC/NG are much more fun.  God of War just has a much better presentation.

Now, if Mikami's new game is God Hand 2, then there would be some dispute about what the Action game of 2010 was.  And I guess Itagaki has his thing and Team Ninja has Other M.

I hesitate to even call that encounter a "boss fight" after seeing what comes later.   :)

There are more fights like that then, right? my favorite fights in action games are usually you fighting an enemy with similar moves.   :bow  Genshin :bow2


WHAT

no no, I didn't mean to say there were rumors or anything.  It's just my hope that it is.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on October 31, 2009, 05:24:27 PM
Based on their demos, what's gonna be the action game of '10, swaggaz: GoW or Bayonetta? :hyper
its not even a question

Now, if Mikami's new game is actually God Hand 2, then there would be some dispute about what the Action game of 2010 was.  And I guess Itagaki has his thing and Team Ninja has Other M.

WHAT
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on November 01, 2009, 09:18:24 AM
Eurogamer DF did the tech analysis of GOW 3 demo.....24-56 fps,it can't even reach 60 fps
36fps average... :lol
Bayonetta PS3 redux...but its exclusive so other version doesn't exist,no big deal,its more cinematic this way,they should lock it at 24fps for more cinematic experience
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 01, 2009, 11:26:46 AM
Eurogamer DF did the tech analysis of GOW 3 demo.....24-56 fps,it can't even reach 60 fps
36fps average... :lol
Bayonetta PS3 redux...but its exclusive so other version doesn't exist,no big deal,its more cinematic this way,they should lock it at 24fps for more cinematic experience

not really unexpected-- I imagine GOW1 and 2 are right in the same neighborhood.  GOW games have always had fluctuating framerates.   After all they're made by dirty gaijin in America. :usacry
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 02, 2009, 02:38:27 AM
95,000 units on PS3 vs 45,000 on 360. :japancry

http://www.destructoid.com/japan-bayonetta-ps3-sales-double-xbox-360-sales-153730.phtml

Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 02, 2009, 02:50:55 AM
But not unexpected.  I mean, it IS the Japanese 360 we're talking about here.  45,000 is amazing.   :lol

 :-\
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Purple Filth on November 02, 2009, 03:42:29 AM
But not unexpected.  I mean, it IS the Japanese 360 we're talking about here.  45,000 is amazing.   :lol

 :-\


yea it actually did more than expected (i guess that 40 helped compared to the 38 ps3 got)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 02, 2009, 08:44:28 AM
Eurogamer DF did the tech analysis of GOW 3 demo.....24-56 fps,it can't even reach 60 fps
36fps average... :lol
Bayonetta PS3 redux...but its exclusive so other version doesn't exist,no big deal,its more cinematic this way,they should lock it at 24fps for more cinematic experience

To be fair, the GoW3 demo mentions it's from June, and the game isn't coming out until March, and there isn't a superior version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 02, 2009, 08:44:40 AM
Yes, it did more than expected because according to Kotaku it was sold out in a lot of places, so I guess that's the number Sega shipped.

As my friend, a long-suffering Sega fan (and one-time employee) phrased it: "Sega snatches defeat from the jaws of victory."
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 02, 2009, 06:04:09 PM
Good point. But if it's the SEGA I know and love, they won't have even manufactured much more than that, so they won't be able to get any more into channel until next month or January. Hopefully the manufacturing is a Platinum Games decision and not a SEGA one.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 03, 2009, 12:50:24 AM
After a couple of days of being unable to play, I'm back in the game and currently on stage eight.  The cinemas are getting more and more over the top (in a good way)...so much fun to watch!  And the boss fights just keep getting better and better, not to mention bigger and BIGGER.  Keep on getting new weapons and moves, too.  This game is so fucking good. 

Right now I'm on top of a truck on a highway...more Outrun music is playing.   :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 03, 2009, 01:30:38 AM
Chapter 8 had a driving sequence that not only didn't suck, but was fun and had good controls?!  WHAAAAT?!   :o

Chapter 9 now, seven hours on the game clock.  I don't want it to end!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 03, 2009, 02:28:14 AM
What does the replayability look like at this stage? Are there rewards for multiple play-throughs?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 03, 2009, 03:17:57 AM
Holy shit...she said "Let's rock, baby!"   :lol

Finished chapter 11.  That's it for today.  Chapters 9 and 10 were the game's idea of a "recyclefest," sort of recombining bits from all the previous levels, plus making you fight previous bosses again (albeit with a lot less effort needed to win), but thankfully it had enough stuff that was also different so that nothing felt tedious.  There was a part several chapters prior where it looked like the game might turn into the ever-dreaded escort mission type for a second, but nope...the character following you doesn't need protection.  That could have really fucked the game up!

I think I've only got 3-4 chapters left.  Unless something big happens that changes everything, Bayonetta's a 10/10 in my book. 

What does the replayability look like at this stage? Are there rewards for multiple play-throughs?

Pretty replayable if you're looking to get achievements and also buy all the moves/accessories/weapons/etc.  There's two more difficulty levels to unlock once you finish the game.  Doesn't seem like you can get everything in one play-through either, unless you want to grind stages and keep replaying them, but even then I don't know if everything would be available.  There's also these optional challenge areas you can find, with certain criteria (such as beating all the enemies with only 10 punch attacks and 10 kick attacks, or never touching the ground)  You can replay stages on any difficulty, too.  It's also got online leaderboards.  Out of all the DMC-style games I have played, this game just fucking trounces them all.  It's the game play that does it...tons of combos and moves, plus canceling, plus comboing from one weapon (you can have two equipped at a time) into another...sick, sick stuff.  They really outdid themselves.  I really should have finished NG Sigma 2 before playing this game, because going back to it is going to feel archaic in comparison.  The bar has been raised big time.

Could be bullshit, but I saw a GameFAQs post that said there's a hidden boss that you have to have done a bunch of criteria first to be able to challenge.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 04, 2009, 03:57:13 PM
Another epic boss battle -better than the last-

And then...

SPACE HARRIER!   :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 04, 2009, 04:15:28 PM
Another epic boss battle -better than the last-

And then...

SPACE HARRIER!   :lol

Kind of like the original Devil May Cry?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 04, 2009, 04:27:15 PM
Another epic boss battle -better than the last-

And then...

SPACE HARRIER!   :lol

Kind of like the original Devil May Cry?

Kind of like SPACE HARRIER!  Similar controls and enemy patterns.  Plus you get a remix of the theme music.   :)  It's a pretty short little segment, but it's fucking awesome.  Like everything else in the game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 06, 2009, 04:22:39 AM
Correction: That level is Space Harrier mixed with After Burner! 

Now on the last level, the epilogue.  I'm going to have to spoiler everything from here.

BitchWitch fight:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
The final showdown between you and Jeanne, the other surviving witch.  It's pretty much the same fight that you have against her several times prior, but the setting is just so crazy over the top...at one point, they start lobbing a giant missile back and forth between each other, then you have a fight on top of it!   :lol
[close]

Boss fight redux:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
You're going up a large tower, fighting versions of bosses with shorter lifebars all over again.  Somehow, they managed to make this NOT feel like a rehash!
[close]

Dark Vs. Light:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
So Bayonetta, as a witch, represents the dark side.  You get to meet and fight against the last mage on the light side.  This fight isn't difficult, nor is it impressive, but there's a few surprises, and the last hit is epic-- Bayonetta fires a single bullet, and you have to guide it in first-person, avoiding shards of glass, to hit him in the head.  Looked awesome as hell.
[close]

The last stage:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Bayonetta's out of commission, so you get to play as the other witch, Jeanne!  You ride a motorbike up a rocket and into space, jumping on asteroids.   :lol  Bayonetta gets revived, then you fight the last boss.  This bitch is MASSIVE and has several forms.  You're trapped in this cosmic bubble-thing, and have to run to avoid getting smashed into the ground by its massive fists, avoid getting sucked into black holes, avoid swirling vortexes that turn you into helpless child Bayonetta, deal with changing elements, and more.  Fucking crazy!  I got to the very last part and died at the end, all without using any health items.
[close]

Going to go back tomorrow and finish the game, this time with a well-stocked item inventory.  If it's still too much to handle, it's level grinding time.  The fight before the last boss wasn't that special fight-wise (and was the only one in the entire game that was kind of dull), but had an awesome, awesome finish.  The story took a turn for the serious, but I can forgive it since it was at the very end of the game.

The most important part of the game play is dodging.  Timing is everything, and you need it to win.  Getting witch time can really turn things in your favor-- I can't imagine how much harder things must be on the hardest unlockable difficulty...there's no witch time!   :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Draft on November 06, 2009, 09:07:12 AM
I'm in full boner mode for this game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on November 06, 2009, 09:29:17 AM
I'm still fucking pissed that this got delayed over here. The wait is starting to hurt.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 06, 2009, 11:56:15 AM
I'm still fucking pissed that this got delayed over here. The wait is starting to hurt.

There is a cheap Asian release coming out in December for both PS3 and 360.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 06, 2009, 12:44:03 PM
I'm still fucking pissed that this got delayed over here. The wait is starting to hurt.

There is a cheap Asian release coming out in December for both PS3 and 360.

The Asian version will likely still be locked to Japanese systems for 360. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 06, 2009, 01:47:32 PM
I'm still fucking pissed that this got delayed over here. The wait is starting to hurt.

There is a cheap Asian release coming out in December for both PS3 and 360.

The Asian version will likely still be locked to Japanese systems for 360. 

That's too bad. PS3 won't be and it's $49.95 at Play Asia.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on November 06, 2009, 02:09:21 PM
Yeah, but it's the PS3 version. :-\

I honestly wouldn't get it even if I had both consoles right now. Smh @ Sega...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 06, 2009, 02:17:01 PM
Yeah, but it's the PS3 version. :-\

I'm one of those idiots who only has a PS3 and is blind, so the differences are pretty meaningless to me.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on November 06, 2009, 02:27:20 PM
Typical librul
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 06, 2009, 02:28:12 PM
Typical librul

You know it, baby.  :-*
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 06, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
This game is worth buying a 360 for.  Don't play the gimped version.    :-\

Finished the game in 13:09.  The timer keeps going even when you're just sitting on a menu screen, so an hour can easily be shaved off from the actual play time.  Beat the last boss's ass on the first try this time, barely even using any health power-ups!  The ending was satisfying, the credits had some interactive elements (play a verse for like 20 seconds, Wario Ware style), and afterwards, you get a music video of Bayonetta and friends dancing around.  Hard difficulty is now unlocked; not sure if I will start on that immediately, or go back to normal and grind for cash to buy everything first. 

Bayonetta is now my favorite action game this year.  Uncharted 2 has been dethroned.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on November 06, 2009, 08:33:33 PM
Anything else got unlocked when you beat it? Sound test mode, cutscene vids, anything?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 07, 2009, 12:44:12 AM
Anything else got unlocked when you beat it? Sound test mode, cutscene vids, anything?

Gallery mode gets opened up.  You can view concept art, character models, soundtest mode, and the music video that plays after the credits.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 07, 2009, 12:48:09 AM
argh unlocking difficulties.  oh well, seems like the game is worth a bunch of playthroughs anyway.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 07, 2009, 12:51:39 AM
argh unlocking difficulties.  oh well, seems like the game is worth a bunch of playthroughs anyway.

Definitely.  It seems like you'd have to if you want to fight the hidden boss, too.

I like that they let you replay chapters on any available difficulty, too.  The achievements are also broken up into blocks of levels.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 11, 2009, 08:53:13 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-hd-bayonetta/58920

lol near the end.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 20, 2009, 09:34:20 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380226

Bayonetta now has two PERFECT scores from two HIGHLY RESPECTED PUBLICATIONS.  :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on November 20, 2009, 09:37:24 AM
Famtisu is highly respected? ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 20, 2009, 09:41:42 AM
a 5 for dragon age :lol 

how is this game getting lower reviews than Jade Empire?  ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 20, 2009, 09:42:48 AM
Based on their demos, what's gonna be the action game of '10, swaggaz: GoW or Bayonetta? :hyper


I've played their demos but could have told you Bayonetta beforehand.  GoW is action-lite, though fun.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on November 20, 2009, 09:43:44 AM
a 5 for dragon age :lol 

how is this game getting lower reviews than Jade Empire?  ???

Dragon Age - 5/10
Mass Effect - 7/10
Jade Empire - 7/10
KotOR - 9/10
Neverwinter Nights - 9/10
Baldur's Gate 2 - 8/10

Fallout 3 - 7/10
Oblivion - 8/10
Morrowind - 6/10

Fallout - 7/10

The Witcher - 5/10

Arcanum - 5/10
Temple of Elemental Evil - 4/10
Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines - 6/10

KotOR 2 - 7/10
Neverwinter Nights 2 - 8/10

Diablo - 7/10
Diablo 2 - 6/10

EDGE doesn't like WRPGs. :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Human Snorenado on November 20, 2009, 09:47:19 AM
:piss EDGE :piss2

:piss weeaboo wannabe cheeseburgers :piss2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on November 20, 2009, 10:00:41 AM
I guess the timeless Bioware magic wasn't present.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 20, 2009, 07:21:42 PM
You could'a done it any time with that megaupload file. Burn it to a disc and VIOLALALLAALALALALLA COBRA!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on November 20, 2009, 07:43:30 PM
Or he could have used me and saved himself time downloading and burning a CD just for a single demo

There for my bros and the vidya
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on November 21, 2009, 07:46:32 AM
But the long-term costs of stretchy rectal abuse are high.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on November 21, 2009, 07:50:10 AM
Yo it's cool to be jealous man. Not many have what we do. I am blessed.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on November 21, 2009, 08:44:28 AM
If I make a Japanese account, can I DL the demo off the Xbox marketplace or does it have to be gold enabled?  I'm craving some cheeseburger surprise right now. :drool
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on November 21, 2009, 09:05:18 AM
You can download it on a Silver but you can wait for December 3rd, when it's on US Live.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on November 21, 2009, 09:50:08 AM
This game is actually good. :o

edit: I still feel creepy playing it, though. :/
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on November 21, 2009, 09:09:42 PM
Quote
Some quotes from EDGE:s 10/10 review.

Review calls the platinum brawler "flawless" and "the kind of game you dream of playing

- "From start to finish its intricate and intuitive fighting system is a masterclass, and it even finds time to reclaim vehicle levels. This is about as good as it gets," the magazine says."

- A thirdperson action game from the same school as Devil May Cry and Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta has just memorised the best bits and burned down the building, its combination of seamless animation, sensory cues and riotous imagination setting a new standard."

- Edge says the combat system "breaks new ground" and the story is "funny", but also finds time to be tender in places.

- It's a beautiful and graceful fighting game that lets imagination loose, and winks before slapping Dante, Kratos and every other hero back to the drawing board."

Edge bringing the truth.

:bow Bayonetta :bow2

 :lol GoW3 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on November 21, 2009, 11:10:41 PM
This game is amazing, wow.  Fuck Modern Warfare 2 for delaying it until January. :maf
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 05:06:49 PM
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80253450813/?p=1&of=6&bt=0&sb=1&did=0ddf0001-0000-4000-8000-000053458828
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 03, 2009, 05:41:37 PM
Pretty amazing stuff and I'm not even typically a fan of this genre. (I don't like Devil May Cry)

Don't like the camera though.

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 03, 2009, 05:56:52 PM
Shame the US/Euro demo is the same. Still just as fun though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 03, 2009, 08:46:17 PM

- It's a beautiful and graceful fighting game that lets imagination loose, and winks before cock whipping Dante, Kratos and every other hero

Fixed for accuracy.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 03, 2009, 09:14:48 PM
US PS3 demo seems to run better than the Japanese one. Not as much tearing, frame rate is not nearly as bad.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 04, 2009, 03:03:06 PM
apparently I'm wrong ???
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18747775&postcount=1083


I'm not buying it though.  I have my japanese demo and U.S. demo...the japanese one tears all the freaking time and drops more frames.  It doesn't get anything approaching 60fps in the first scenario.  The U.S. one doesn't tear and runs smooth in the interior parts of the first section.   

and the enemies attack more frequently. 

*shrugs*
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 04, 2009, 03:16:44 PM
There is no change.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 04, 2009, 03:18:31 PM
I swear, it's different, they've worked on it, it's an improved version, it's going somewhere...
(http://i46.tinypic.com/29uy3iv.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 04, 2009, 03:21:23 PM
BUY A 360.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 04, 2009, 03:29:36 PM
I have one.  that's the version I'm getting. 

but mah 360 is at home right now...so this is the only demo of it I can play atm

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 04, 2009, 07:01:43 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18749379&postcount=1094
 
:sonic


Both games have rings + the soundtracks are kinda similar = OMG THEY SHOULD MKAE A SONIC ACTIONG GAME
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 04, 2009, 07:28:55 PM
 :lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18747473&postcount=1075

 :rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on December 04, 2009, 08:35:10 PM
And people laughed at the Super Easy Automatic one-button mode. Kamiya wins again! :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on December 05, 2009, 11:57:08 AM
:lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18747473&postcount=1075

 :rofl
How the fuck can someone even post something like that at a gaming forum?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Rman on December 05, 2009, 01:09:04 PM
Man, I didn't think the PS3 version would be so awful. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 05, 2009, 03:40:02 PM
Gonna start getting cheeseburger cockwhipped today. The JP PS3 version is completely in English if your system has that as the default language.

:bow DCharlie :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 05, 2009, 03:58:09 PM
:lol

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18747473&postcount=1075

 :rofl

what is this i don't even
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 05, 2009, 04:20:09 PM
it's Tom Penny, he's trolling. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on December 05, 2009, 04:35:43 PM
I finally got around to playing the demo and I don't know what the fuck to make out of it.  It's certainly crazy as hell but I'm not sure if I could or would even want to play an entire game like that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 05, 2009, 04:43:17 PM
I can't wait to play the full game over and over.   I love how insane it is (the gameplay, that is. I don't really pay attention to the story/character design much.)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on December 05, 2009, 06:53:05 PM
Changed my mind after doing it again.  Originally I only played the clocktower stage and didn't know what the fuck was going on but after screwing around with the other section, I'm sold.  Seems pretty awesome.

And holy fucking shit at the difference between the 360 and the PS3 versions.  I had both running at the same time and I couldn't believe the gap was that big.  It's like 2007 all over again.  It'd be better to just forget the PS3 one even exists. Totally unacceptable.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 05, 2009, 10:00:18 PM
Changed my mind after doing it again.  Originally I only played the clocktower stage and didn't know what the fuck was going on but after screwing around with the other section, I'm sold.  Seems pretty awesome.

And holy fucking shit at the difference between the 360 and the PS3 versions.  I had both running at the same time and I couldn't believe the gap was that big.  It's like 2007 all over again.  It'd be better to just forget the PS3 one even exists. Totally unacceptable.

Ah, the clocktower part.  Yeah, that's more like just an interactive cut scene.

I can't wait to play the full game over and over.   I love how insane it is (the gameplay, that is. I don't really pay attention to the story/character design much.)


You have to if you want to unlock everything and get those 'cheevs!  With plenty to unlock and rankings for each level, there's plenty to go back to.  I've decided to hold off on hard until I've unlocked everything first...hard KICKS YOUR ASS.  I couldn't get past the graveyard level at the beginning.   :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 05, 2009, 10:14:10 PM
Could someone well versed in action games tell me what makes Bayonetta so great? I have limited exposure to the genre, but I played the demo and liked it
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 05, 2009, 10:30:50 PM
Could someone well versed in action games tell me what makes Bayonetta so great? I have limited exposure to the genre, but I played the demo and liked it

just from the demo:
--fast as fuck/hectic
--Combat system (combos + dodges/witch time + weapon switching) is easy to learn, but deep enough to play forever.  Seems like it's based more on reflexes/feel instead memorization of dial-a-combos.
--Some good risk/reward set ups-- taunting makes enemies more aggressive and do more damage, but you get more points when you kill them.  Baiting enemy attacks so you can dodge and go into witch time is fun.
--Then there are advanced techniques like attack/taunt buffering.
--the enemies put up a good fight and do lots of damage.  It's hard but fair, aside from the occasional off screen attack that blind sides you.  But even then, the controls are so responsive that you really only need a second to react.
--Every fight is graded and it has a scoring system that means something.  This makes the game very replayable and feeds the OCD.
--The boss fights, just going by the ones in the demo (the huge statues and Jeanne in the PS3 demo) seem pretty awesome. 

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Tristam on December 05, 2009, 11:37:39 PM

Going to go back tomorrow and finish the game, this time with a well-stocked item inventory.  If it's still too much to handle, it's level grinding time.  The fight before the last boss wasn't that special fight-wise (and was the only one in the entire game that was kind of dull), but had an awesome, awesome finish.  The story took a turn for the serious, but I can forgive it since it was at the very end of the game.

The most important part of the game play is dodging.  Timing is everything, and you need it to win.  Getting witch time can really turn things in your favor-- I can't imagine how much harder things must be on the hardest unlockable difficulty...there's no witch time!   :o

So it's like God Hand?  :hyper

swaggaz: If you recall I don't like DMC (or NG) and I love God Hand. Should I like Bayonetta, too?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 05, 2009, 11:57:23 PM
I'm not really too big into these 3D action games.  The only one I played all the way through prior to Bayonetta was Devil May Cry.  Was never much for the others; played enough of them to get a feel for them (except for DMC3, and I'd like to play through at some point), but I loved Bayonetta.  It's the fighting and dodging system that does it.  I was playing NG Sigma 2 right before I got Bayonetta, and now that game just feels archaic and dated.

Tristam, it doesn't play anything like Godhand, but it's just as awesome.   :D
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2009, 02:32:03 AM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee82/distantmantra/ebss5.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 06, 2009, 02:37:23 AM
:rofl

Is that really what you got? 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2009, 02:40:11 AM
:rofl

Is that really what you got? 

http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32221.msg983378#msg983378
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 06, 2009, 03:02:47 AM
:bow XFE :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Kestastrophe on December 06, 2009, 08:46:33 AM
--Combat system (combos + dodges/witch time + weapon switching) is easy to learn, but deep enough to play forever.  Seems like it's based more on reflexes/feel instead memorization of dial-a-combos.
That's kind of what I gathered from the PS3 demo, and this is probably most important to me. Thanks for your impressions.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Tristam on December 06, 2009, 11:08:57 AM
Thanks for the info, lyte edge. Will buy!  :D
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: hyp on December 06, 2009, 11:46:46 AM
bayonetta kicks all sorts of ass.  something about dmc4's controls didnt vibe well with me. bayonetta is fun right off the bat, over the top, and the dodging system gives you some breathing room when shit gets chaotic. i kinda wish there were more visual cues to when enemies attack because the angles feel pretty far at times. overall i will most likely day 1 this bitch.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Rman on December 06, 2009, 01:28:23 PM
bayonetta kicks all sorts of ass.  something about dmc4's controls didnt vibe well with me. bayonetta is fun right off the bat, over the top, and the dodging system gives you some breathing room when shit gets chaotic. i kinda wish there were more visual cues to when enemies attack because the angles feel pretty far at times. overall i will most likely day 1 this bitch.
I actually started to go by audio cues, because the game is so hectic visually.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: hyp on December 06, 2009, 01:35:18 PM
i'll have to try that on another demo run. it should get easier the more i play. i only went through the demo twice.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2009, 02:09:55 PM
Game is fucking ridiculous. I love it. So much better than the demo.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 06, 2009, 03:28:43 PM
my girlfriend got all wet after watching me play the demo.

what about your girls, bore?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 06, 2009, 03:29:26 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2009, 03:31:16 PM
my girlfriend got all wet after watching me play the demo.

what about your girls, bore?

GAF?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 06, 2009, 03:55:30 PM
my girlfriend got all wet after watching me play the demo.

what about your girls, bore?


one of my girlfriends was all hot and bothered by it and the other girlfriend was highly offended and then they started fighting and ripping each other's clothes off right in front of me and then we all started getting it on and my third girlfriend got naked and started squirting chocolate syrup over the three of us as we laid on the floor.  Did I mention I have four girlfriends?  The fourth one wasn't there.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 06, 2009, 04:12:40 PM
FAKE
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 06, 2009, 04:19:57 PM
well, I should clarify...by "girlfriends," I meant "animatronic real dolls"
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 06, 2009, 04:26:23 PM
you too?  :-[
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 06, 2009, 04:37:56 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 06, 2009, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: Kolgar
My girlfriend gave this gave this game some serious consideration after watching me play the demos, and her final verdict is it's cute and she'd enjoy watching me play it.

She doesn't get all the objections about objectifying women or focusing too much on sexuality. She just likes seeing a sexy female lead kick ass.

I think that's the trick: To not take this game seriously. Tongue in cheek for the win!

Because damn, I don't know how else to take those hilarious "lipstick smooches" the game uses for lock ons. :lol

Played both versions now, and the 360 one twice. The game is fun and the action vacillates between awesome and laugh-out-loud funny.

Consider it bought!

Quote from: goldenpp72
My girl didn't find this game offensive at all either btw, I do think this is more sensitive men than a problem with women.

Glad some GAFfers aren't crazy!   :P
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 06, 2009, 07:45:00 PM
I played the demo and having not really enjoyed DMC after the first I wasn't sure what to expect.  Holy fuck this game is ridiculously enjoyable.  I haven't enjoyed a demo this much all year.

This could be GOTY shit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 06, 2009, 07:48:54 PM
The game is so much better than the demo. It's definitely making my best of 2009 list.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 06, 2009, 08:44:52 PM
Fuckin' slaughters everything else like it.

Scratch GoW3 off the list!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 07, 2009, 12:57:08 AM
The game is so much better than the demo. It's definitely making my best of 2009 list.

:hyper

In what ways is it better?  I loved everything about the fighting system, and found the environments really attractive in the demo.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 07, 2009, 01:19:38 AM
Read this thread!   :lol

Everything just keeps getting crazier and more over the top. There's a shitload more moves and weapons you can use and more abilities you can get that aren't in the demo.  Boss fights are INSANE in scale.  Enemies fight more aggressively as you progress. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 07, 2009, 02:04:38 AM
I did have a scan through the thread, but admittedly not a very thorough one. :-[

Thanks for the info - I would have been more than happy with the moves I've tried thus far, so it's awesome to hear there's loads more.  I though the game would be OK but I had no idea I'd be so blown away by it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 07, 2009, 02:11:54 AM
Read this thread!   :lol

Everything just keeps getting crazier and more over the top. There's a shitload more moves and weapons you can use and more abilities you can get that aren't in the demo.  Boss fights are INSANE in scale.  Enemies fight more aggressively as you progress. 


jesus i need this game now
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 09, 2009, 12:13:54 AM
holy fucking boss fight:
http://zoome.jp/violet/diary/316/



(http://i48.tinypic.com/sglisg.gif)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 01:20:29 AM
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Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 09, 2009, 01:40:26 AM
 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 09, 2009, 01:56:13 AM
God of War III is going to look so lame after this :lol

Shame that Bayonetta PS3 is so gimped.  Stards will be championing GoW3 over the superior game because of silly fanboy loyalty. :-\
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 02:14:42 AM
God of War is a different genre - the exclusive-game-brigade will still champion it though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 02:38:18 AM
I'm happy being pretty fucking specific.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 02:58:53 AM
Sure.  Action/adventure as a genre is fine but it certainly covers a lot of ground.  Say:

Zelda -------------------- God of War ----------------- Bayonetta/DMC/Ninja Gaiden
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on December 09, 2009, 07:33:47 AM
I can't believe you'd put Kratos near Link like that.

...Then again, Kratos would have put a definitive end to Ganon.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 09, 2009, 09:13:57 AM
Sure.  Action/adventure as a genre is fine but it certainly covers a lot of ground.  Say:

Zelda -------------------- God of War ----------------- Bayonetta/DMC/Ninja Gaiden



has elements of both ends of the spectrum, but doesn't do them nearly as well as the game that it borrows them from
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Brehvolution on December 09, 2009, 09:35:42 AM
holy fucking boss fight:
http://zoome.jp/violet/diary/316/




"It's a celebration, bitches."
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 07:17:50 PM
I can't believe you'd put Kratos near Link like that.

...Then again, Kratos would have put a definitive end to Ganon.

I'm sure a gamefaqs poll has covered this very issue!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 09, 2009, 08:26:53 PM
Sure.  Action/adventure as a genre is fine but it certainly covers a lot of ground.  Say:

Zelda -------------------- God of War ----------------- Bayonetta/DMC/Ninja Gaiden


No.  Zelda is a different kind of game.  God Of War, DMC, and NG are the same genre.  And Bayonetta is god tier, above all of them.
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Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
The first 3D Ninja Gaiden is also god tier.  But Bayonetta may be a little higher in the tier - I will have to wait and see. :hyper
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 09, 2009, 09:13:38 PM
Bayonetta shits on all of you.
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Post by: iconoclast on December 09, 2009, 09:21:20 PM
The first 3D Ninja Gaiden is also god tier.  But Bayonetta may be a little higher in the tier - I will have to wait and see. :hyper
:lol

Yeah, the second 3D Ninja Gaiden (NGB) is the one that's god tier. What a silly mistake :lol
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Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
The first 3D Ninja Gaiden is also god tier.  But Bayonetta may be a little higher in the tier - I will have to wait and see. :hyper
:lol

Ninja Gaiden owns your God-of-War-mentioning ass.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 09, 2009, 09:38:24 PM
NG, DMC, and Bayonetta are all in the God Tier Action genre.  Ironically, God of War is in the Thinking Bro's Action genre.
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Post by: Draft on December 09, 2009, 09:43:02 PM
NGB remains the definitive 3D action game.

I hope Bayonetta dethrones it, however.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 09, 2009, 09:44:19 PM
NGB remains the definitive 3D action game.

I hope Bayonetta dethrones it, however.

It totally does. It's so damn awesome.
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Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 10:07:26 PM
Even just from the demo I get the impression Bayonetta has a good chance of topping NGB.

Dammit SEGA - why didn't you make the 360 JAP version region free. :maf
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Post by: Brehvolution on December 09, 2009, 11:08:36 PM
PLayed the demo and the words 'button masher' comes to mind. This set of words was a detriment to GoW and other Playstation exclusives in the past 2 years.

Long story short, Pass. Can't believe I wasted time creating an email account to vote for Mike Pierce.  :elephant
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Post by: demi on December 09, 2009, 11:09:22 PM
Silly casuals
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 09, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
Oh wow, people hating on God of War, oh look, these people are xbots.  ::)
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Post by: Bildi on December 09, 2009, 11:25:35 PM
God of War was great and I spent my hard-earned cash to import the superior NTSC version at launch.  I ain't hatin'!

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I am an xbot though
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PLayed the demo and the words 'button masher' comes to mind. This set of words was a detriment to GoW and other Playstation exclusives in the past 2 years.

Long story short, Pass. Can't believe I wasted time creating an email account to vote for Mike Pierce.  :elephant


:'(
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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 09, 2009, 11:50:35 PM
:drake
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 10, 2009, 12:55:37 AM
Bayonetta is so not a button masher. Button mashing won't get you very far, the dodge mechanic and witch time are pretty essential to kickin' ass.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 10, 2009, 01:10:08 AM
PLayed the demo and the words 'button masher' comes to mind. This set of words was a detriment to GoW and other Playstation exclusives in the past 2 years.

Long story short, Pass. Can't believe I wasted time creating an email account to vote for Mike Pierce.  :elephant


 :'(   :'( :'(

So I just played the 360 demo and I must be blind because besides it being more vivid, I don't see anything different.
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Post by: Brehvolution on December 10, 2009, 11:12:51 AM
 :lol :lol I was just kidding about all that Junpei.  :-*
The game looks fantastic and plays well. It's just not for me.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2009, 09:03:55 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m8VWWRvQPU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 11, 2009, 09:16:19 AM
^ lol, nice tearing
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Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 11, 2009, 09:48:00 AM
N'Gai says God of War 3 is the most amazing thing ever. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382011

I can't help but feel this game will get slaughtered in sales.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2009, 09:50:07 AM
N'Gai says God of War 3 is the most amazing thing ever. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382011

I can't help but feel this game will get slaughtered in sales.

You're stupid.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 11, 2009, 09:51:47 AM
I know, i'm just sharing my thoughts on Bayonetta, which is launching around the same time as God of War 3.
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Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2009, 09:55:24 AM
A. We all know that a mega franchise that is exclusive to one platform will outsell (crush) a new IP from Sega of all people.
B. Why should I or anybody care what N'Gai says about anything.
 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 11, 2009, 09:57:13 AM
Who is N'gai???

I have to say Bayonetta looks more interesting with each new footage shown. I like the platforming bits and the set pieces are very original.
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Post by: demi on December 11, 2009, 09:59:28 AM
I know, i'm just sharing my thoughts on Bayonetta, which is launching around the same time as God of War 3.

Release date(s) NA March 2010

 ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 11, 2009, 10:00:04 AM
Who is N'gai???

N'Gai Croal.

One of many media gaming personalities that GAF thinks bring credibility and redeems their nerdy hobby.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 11, 2009, 10:02:16 AM
wait when does bayonetta come out? soon?
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Post by: archie4208 on December 11, 2009, 10:04:31 AM
Bayonetta comes out in like 3 weeks.  January 3, to be exact.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 11, 2009, 10:09:34 AM
N'Gai says God of War 3 is the most amazing thing ever. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=382011

I can't help but feel this game will get slaughtered in sales.


notice the locked NPD thread?  nobody cares.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 11, 2009, 10:44:30 AM
I didnt. Now I do. That's why I need you
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 11, 2009, 12:27:50 PM
Bullshit, but how is Dante's Inferno?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 11, 2009, 12:43:05 PM
Why do people keep mentioning the inferior GoW3 in this thread? Leper this filth.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 11, 2009, 12:47:34 PM
Not you fool, that mud bitch.
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Post by: drew on December 11, 2009, 12:49:54 PM
wait when does bayonetta come out? soon?

january
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Post by: iconoclast on December 11, 2009, 12:52:53 PM
January 5th, to be exact. No better way to kick off the next decade.

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Unless Itagaki announces a new action game before then.
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Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 11, 2009, 12:59:31 PM
sorry but ng2 sucked, id be looking forward to this more even if that happened
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Post by: Beezy on December 12, 2009, 01:57:04 AM
http://platinumgames.com/2009/12/11/butmoni-coronzon-from-the-mouth-of-the-witch/

That's pretty cool.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 12, 2009, 02:13:20 AM
sorry but ng2 sucked, id be looking forward to this more even if that happened
someone still can't beat master ninja

tsk tsk tsk
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2009, 02:40:54 AM
Bayonetta PAL 360 leaked. Apparently region free. Lucky pirates
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Post by: iconoclast on December 12, 2009, 02:58:22 AM
Pirates win again. :(

Why am I still paying for my 360 games?
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Post by: Beezy on December 12, 2009, 02:58:57 AM
 :'(
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Post by: MCD on December 12, 2009, 03:00:11 AM
Pirates win again. :(

Why am I still paying for my 360 games?
potential
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Post by: Third on December 12, 2009, 06:21:41 AM
Just when I started to like the game. Good timing.
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Post by: Purple Filth on December 12, 2009, 06:52:14 AM
Pirates win again. :(

Why am I still paying for my 360 games?

 :lol

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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 12, 2009, 09:30:00 AM
almost tempting to hit up craig's list for a banned xbox
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Post by: Third on December 12, 2009, 10:33:18 AM
What a weird ass game. I don't know what the hell is happening all the time. Button mash heaven. But I like it more than DMC4 so far. But then again, DMC4 was very mediocre.
Installed it on the HDD. Loading is pretty fast.
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 12, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
hate you  :'(
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Post by: bork on December 12, 2009, 12:18:47 PM
What a weird ass game. I don't know what the hell is happening all the time. Button mash heaven. But I like it more than DMC4 so far. But then again, DMC4 was very mediocre.
Installed it on the HDD. Loading is pretty fast.

lol
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Post by: drew on December 12, 2009, 12:31:11 PM
someone still can't beat master ninja

tsk tsk tsk

lol, im not demi, im not gonna wade through shit uo to my waist just to do it
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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 12, 2009, 12:57:10 PM
I'd rather cut my dick off and pour boiling oil on the stub than play NG2 on master ninja.  that game is a piece of shit. 
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Post by: MCD on December 12, 2009, 01:05:50 PM
LOSERS
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Post by: iconoclast on December 12, 2009, 02:13:50 PM
Screw story mode, NG2 is all about SURVIVALS!

 :piss NGS2 for not having the DLC weapon survivals.
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Post by: drew on December 12, 2009, 02:21:47 PM
ngb's mission mode was better

how much better so much better
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Post by: Third on December 12, 2009, 02:55:16 PM
I'm two hours in and having fun. But I don't know if I'll ever finish this. Not really my type of game. The gameplay is way too unfocused and chaotic for my tastes. I'm basically button bashing myself through all the fights. The action looks cool, though.

And wow at the v-sync issues. The worst I've ever seen in a game.
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Post by: drew on December 12, 2009, 03:16:19 PM
youre completely missing the p...

yeah nevermind
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Post by: bork on December 12, 2009, 03:34:56 PM
I'm two hours in and having fun. But I don't know if I'll ever finish this. Not really my type of game. The gameplay is way too unfocused and chaotic for my tastes. I'm basically button bashing myself through all the fights. The action looks cool, though.

And wow at the v-sync issues. The worst I've ever seen in a game.

Are you playing on easy or something?  It's not unfocused and chaotic; you have to use those reflexes and dodge, dodge, dodge to really get anywhere without getting your ass kicked.  If all you're doing is mashing, you're going to hit a point where you won't be able to get any further in the game or beat a boss.
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Post by: Beezy on December 12, 2009, 04:37:16 PM
And wow at the v-sync issues. The worst I've ever seen in a game.
You're playing on the PS3, right? My condolences.
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Post by: Third on December 12, 2009, 06:56:22 PM
No, the X360 version. And yes, I'm playing this on easy. You can only choose very easy, easy and normal when you start off a new game. I thought normal would be too hard, since there's no hard mode, so I went with easy mode.
I usually always play normal mode.
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Post by: bork on December 12, 2009, 06:58:37 PM
No, the X360 version. And yes, I'm playing this on easy. You can only choose very easy, easy and normal when you start off a new game. I thought normal would be too hard, since there's no hard mode, so I went with easy mode.
I usually always play normal mode.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Start over on normal; play the real game.  You get hard mode after you beat the game on normal.  And you get an even harder difficulty after hard mode is cleared.
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Post by: Third on December 12, 2009, 07:11:26 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Start over on normal; play the real game.  You get hard mode after you beat the game on normal.  And you get an even harder difficulty after hard mode is cleared.

I'm almost 3 hours into the game now. Don't want to do it all over again. But yeah, the game has been reaaaaaaaaaaallly easy so far. Basically getting (super)platinum in all the battles.  :lol
I wonder how easy the very easy mode should be.

This is not a game I would ever buy, though. I like the less "hardcore" games like GoW when it comes to this genre. This game is a bit too confusing and too fast for my tastes. But I can see why someone would love this game. It really plays great and it's very responsive, and some of the designs and concepts in the game are amazing.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 12, 2009, 07:30:31 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Start over on normal; play the real game.  You get hard mode after you beat the game on normal.  And you get an even harder difficulty after hard mode is cleared.

I'm almost 3 hours into the game now. Don't want to do it all over again. But yeah, the game has been reaaaaaaaaaaallly easy so far. Basically getting (super)platinum in all the battles.  :lol
I wonder how easy the very easy mode should be.

This is not a game I would ever buy, though. I like the less "hardcore" games like GoW when it comes to this genre. This game is a bit too confusing and too fast for my tastes. But I can see why someone would love this game. It really plays great and it's very responsive, and some of the designs and concepts in the game are amazing.

Very easy is the one that's all simple QTEs, isn't it? 

also, come on...you're calling it a button masher, but you're playing it on easy.  of course you can get by with button mashing on easy, that's what it's there for!  Normal seemed like a good balance of learning some stuff and mashing.  Then again, the extra fight after the courtyard boss (if you go back to the beginning of the demo) is a bit harder than the others and is definitely not too mash-friendly. 
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Post by: Beezy on December 12, 2009, 07:37:09 PM
And yes, I'm playing this on easy.

 :piss Third :piss2
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Post by: drew on December 12, 2009, 10:43:53 PM
:piss
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Post by: Don Flamenco on December 12, 2009, 10:44:58 PM
 :gloomy  :piss2
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Post by: demi on December 12, 2009, 10:45:18 PM
Third is such a Wii gamer
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Post by: bork on December 13, 2009, 03:12:06 AM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Start over on normal; play the real game.  You get hard mode after you beat the game on normal.  And you get an even harder difficulty after hard mode is cleared.

I'm almost 3 hours into the game now. Don't want to do it all over again. But yeah, the game has been reaaaaaaaaaaallly easy so far. Basically getting (super)platinum in all the battles.  :lol
I wonder how easy the very easy mode should be.

This is not a game I would ever buy, though. I like the less "hardcore" games like GoW when it comes to this genre. This game is a bit too confusing and too fast for my tastes. But I can see why someone would love this game. It really plays great and it's very responsive, and some of the designs and concepts in the game are amazing.

At least change the difficulty to normal and play from the stage you're currently on.  Man, what is the fucking point?   :-\
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Post by: demi on December 13, 2009, 11:26:06 AM
[youtube=560,345]ytxmtc0ZixY[/youtube]

Just going to put this here...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 13, 2009, 12:46:39 PM
After being pissed on and being called a Wii gamer, I adjusted the difficulty of the game.

Normal mode is definitely harder. I'm afraid the game is going to kick my ass soon.
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Post by: Beezy on December 13, 2009, 01:05:38 PM
After being pissed on and being called a Wii gamer, I adjusted the difficulty of the game.
:lol

:bow Third :bow2
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Post by: drew on December 13, 2009, 06:36:43 PM
:bow
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 13, 2009, 06:51:32 PM
I will :bow when you go back and replay the levels you finished on the difficulty they were meant to be played on.   :maf
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Post by: iconoclast on December 13, 2009, 08:38:56 PM
I will :bow when you go back and replay the levels you finished on the difficulty they were meant to be played on.   :maf

Infinite Climax mode? I think that's the hardest difficulty anyway. :-*
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 15, 2009, 09:18:49 PM
Fortitudo....

HOLY FUCK THAT WAS AWESOME
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 16, 2009, 01:34:34 AM
Fortitudo....

HOLY FUCK THAT WAS AWESOME

Did you infinite climax over it?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 16, 2009, 01:48:25 AM
The climax summons are so amazing. I just can't believe how awesome the boss battles are. Just when you think it can't get any more epic, a bigger boss appears.

I think I've almost finished the game. The game is waaaaaaaaay better than I expected it to be. There's so much diversity in the gameplay. The interactive loading screen alone is already better than Ninja Gaiden 2 and DMC4 combined.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 16, 2009, 01:50:10 AM
Third redeemed. Don't ever pull any bitch shit like that again.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 16, 2009, 01:51:02 AM
The climax summons are so amazing. I just can't believe how awesome the boss battles are. Just when you think it can't get any more epic, a bigger boss appears.

With the exception of the second-to-last boss fight, this holds true.  That fight is kinda mediocre after all the AWESOME you go through leading up to it, but it's saved by the finish and by the  :o :o  :lol :lol  :o :o final level and  :o :o :o :o 8) 8) 8) final boss fight.  You actually keep going for a little bit after you beat the boss, and then there's the Bayonetta dance video after the credits, so don't be too quick to shut the game off after!

Make sure you have the power-up that allows you to transform into a bird before you tackle the last level.  It comes in very handy in avoiding one of the last boss's attacks!

I still have so much to unlock in this game.  The replay value is through the roof.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 16, 2009, 01:56:28 AM
I died quite a lot, though. Mostly thanks to those stupid QTE. They come up so unexpected on the screen. But the boss battles weren't that hard. Haven't gotten any platinum/pure platinum awards ever since I switched to normal mode.  :'(

I didn't know you were playing the game,  lyte edge. I got all the animal transformation already. Purchased them immediately when they were available.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 16, 2009, 01:59:46 AM
I died quite a lot, though. Mostly thanks to those stupid QTE. They come up so unexpected on the screen. But the boss battles weren't that hard. Haven't gotten any platinum/pure platinum awards ever since I switched to normal mode.  :'(

That's normal, and that's how it should be your first time around.   :lol

Quote
I didn't know you were playing the game,  lyte edge. I got all the animal transformation already. Purchased them immediately when they were available.

I beat it like the week it came out.  Check this thread!  No way I'd be pimping a game I hadn't played yet!   :lol
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Post by: Ichirou on December 16, 2009, 02:11:05 AM
This is one of the best action games I've ever played.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 17, 2009, 12:01:58 PM
Never had trouble beating any of the Devil May Cry titles. Never had trouble beating the Ninja Gaiden games.


Bayonetta is HARD. I understand the play mechanics and get what you need to do, but damn is it hard.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on December 17, 2009, 02:34:18 PM
There is a way to make Bayonetta "playable" on PS3.
How to do it,simple,play it at 480p.Higher and more stable framerate are instant benefits.

Cutscene
http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/478/ (http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/478/)

Gameplay
http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/479/ (http://zoome.jp/ps360/diary/479/)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 17, 2009, 02:38:49 PM
Never had trouble beating any of the Devil May Cry titles. Never had trouble beating the Ninja Gaiden games.


Bayonetta is HARD. I understand the play mechanics and get what you need to do, but damn is it hard.

lol.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 17, 2009, 03:27:25 PM
Never had trouble beating any of the Devil May Cry titles. Never had trouble beating the Ninja Gaiden games.


Bayonetta is HARD. I understand the play mechanics and get what you need to do, but damn is it hard.

sounds like youre just getting old

leave these games to the young guns
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 17, 2009, 03:31:43 PM
I think I died more than six times during the end boss alone. Got a stone award in the end lol.
The game was pretty hard on normal.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 17, 2009, 03:39:16 PM
did you even make any effort into learning the combos?  if you know what youre doing you should be getting silver trophies at least
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 17, 2009, 03:46:28 PM
did you even make any effort into learning the combos?  if you know what youre doing you should be getting silver trophies at least

Yes, I learned a few. But I usually suck playing games like this one. It's way too fast for me, and I'm not even old.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 17, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
Never had trouble beating any of the Devil May Cry titles. Never had trouble beating the Ninja Gaiden games.


Bayonetta is HARD. I understand the play mechanics and get what you need to do, but damn is it hard.

sounds like youre just getting old

leave these games to the young guns

I never said it wasn't any fun, just tough.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on December 19, 2009, 09:51:23 AM
Never had trouble beating any of the Devil May Cry titles. Never had trouble beating the Ninja Gaiden games.


Bayonetta is HARD. I understand the play mechanics and get what you need to do, but damn is it hard.
The demo didn't feel that hard to me, except the final boss where I suddenly wished I'd been practicing the heavier moves rather than spamming a few simple combos.

You mentioned in a different thread that you'd played Star Wars:TFU, which I'm playing right now on the hardest non-unlockable difficulty. The game is quite difficult in some sequences. The 2nd jedi assassination, the spider-runt on the junk world, is VERY HARD. How does Bayonetta feel compared to that?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 19, 2009, 12:12:51 PM
made a run through the demo earlier and discovered dodge shooting :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 21, 2009, 09:12:23 AM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18976260&postcount=2450

FFFFFFFFFFFFF  :'( :'(

I was suppose to go reserve it today but I'm feeling ill. Maybe tomorrow I might find a place selling it early.

Maybe  :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 21, 2009, 09:15:41 AM
Mmm Bayonetta. Do want
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 21, 2009, 12:13:10 PM
I like the Japanese box art better.  Bayonetta ass, lol.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 21, 2009, 12:14:36 PM
The Japanese box art is so much better it's ridiculous.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 21, 2009, 12:29:58 PM
I can't decide which version to get 360 or PS3. Does this game have online?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 21, 2009, 12:32:55 PM
Yeah man
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 21, 2009, 12:34:01 PM
I can't decide which version to get 360 or PS3. Does this game have online?

The 360 version is objectively superior and the only online mode is leaderboards afaik.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 21, 2009, 12:37:16 PM
Is the 360 demo up in the US or is it PS3 only? I'm just worried about the controller.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 21, 2009, 12:40:12 PM
360 demo is up, and it controls fine with that system's controller.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 21, 2009, 12:40:38 PM
After finishing the X360 version, I downloaded the Ps3 demo. Just to see if people are right over the graphical/performance differences between both versions.

Seems they are right. Ps3 demo ran and looked like shit compared to the X360 version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 21, 2009, 12:48:58 PM
360 demo is up, and it controls fine with that system's controller.

I know it controls fine but my personal preference is a PS3 controller, that's what I meant. I wanted to see if I could handle the controller.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 21, 2009, 05:51:28 PM
I can't decide which version to get 360 or PS3. Does this game have online?

you have got be to be fucking kidding

please be kidding

PLEASE
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 21, 2009, 06:04:57 PM
I can't decide which version to get 360 or PS3. Does this game have online?

there is online with the usual dm, tdm, ctf, etc.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 21, 2009, 06:05:48 PM
dont forget big team battle
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 21, 2009, 06:08:26 PM
http://kotaku.com/5431555/bayonetta-sneaks-out-early-at-retail-for-some

Some places are selling it early. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 21, 2009, 06:11:10 PM
http://kotaku.com/5431555/bayonetta-sneaks-out-early-at-retail-for-some

Some places are selling it early. :o :o :o


fuck.  this is the kind of thing that'll make me drive all around town like a fucking idiot, only to come up empty handed, but at least happy that I tried.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 21, 2009, 06:15:25 PM
I want this now. If anyone hears about it being sold early in NYC, let me know.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 21, 2009, 07:05:43 PM
Wish I lived near a mom and pop store :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 21, 2009, 07:21:44 PM
Beat the game today. GOTY 2009 confirmed.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 21, 2009, 07:22:52 PM
you misspelled 2010
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 21, 2009, 07:30:08 PM
you misspelled 2010

Dirty poors play it in 2010. Everyone else played it in 2009.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 21, 2009, 07:38:21 PM
you misspelled 2010

Dirty poors play it in 2010. Everyone else played it in 2009.

You didnt even buy your copy distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Go lie down...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 21, 2009, 07:39:26 PM
you misspelled 2010

Dirty poors play it in 2010. Everyone else played it in 2009.

You didnt even buy your copy distinguished mentally-challenged fellow. Go lie down...

:lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 21, 2009, 07:50:26 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 21, 2009, 09:30:29 PM
(http://i45.tinypic.com/2gsr6nm.png)

Hmmmm.  I wonder how accurate this is.  I'd have to drive 50 miles to the closest Best Buy, but it would be worth it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 21, 2009, 09:39:35 PM
Hmm it says the stores here have it too. Will check tomorrow.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 21, 2009, 09:49:48 PM
I think it's inaccurate...been tricked many times by it.  like 10 minutes ago, for example.  If I don't get the "order is ready" email in an hour, I'll cancel it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on December 21, 2009, 10:28:39 PM
The site shows my Best Buy has it in stock as well... they also have Final Fatasy XIII, Splinter Cell Conviction and Lost Planet 2. I'm pretty sure that's just showing it's available for preorder at those store. They might still have it anyway though, who knows.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 21, 2009, 10:36:34 PM
just picked up bayonetta, FFXIII, Splinter Cell: Conviction at my local best buy.  not sure what to play first.  passed on Lost Planet 2 and pissed on copies of every PS3 exclusive coming out next year.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 21, 2009, 11:08:16 PM
I picked up SC:C too, this game is shit, no wonder it's 360 exclusive, it can't even run past 20fps on that inferior hardware.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 21, 2009, 11:14:09 PM
Hey, yeah...several stores in Atlanta near me have it.  Of course I got the import, but I'm telling my friends about this immediately. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 21, 2009, 11:17:38 PM
I picked up SC:C too, this game is shit, no wonder it's 360 exclusive, it can't even run past 20fps on that inferior hardware.


you would take troll bait about games that aren't even out yet
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 21, 2009, 11:20:19 PM
For a second there I believed you about Lost Planet 2 and SC: C...especially since Bestbuy.com shows them "in stock" at their stores.   :lol

But that also means there's no telling which of these BBs might actually have Bayonetta.   :-\
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 21, 2009, 11:31:03 PM
I picked up SC:C too, this game is shit, no wonder it's 360 exclusive, it can't even run past 20fps on that inferior hardware.


you would take troll bait about games that aren't even out yet
I was just having some Evilborian fun.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 22, 2009, 01:22:10 AM
several stores in Atlanta near me have it. 

wat
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 22, 2009, 02:07:22 AM
several stores in Atlanta near me have it. 

wat

You know...stores in the Atlanta area...near me.  But now I have no idea, since the Best Buy website seems to show that they have any upcoming game "in stock."
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 22, 2009, 10:50:29 AM
IGN reviews:

360:
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/105/1056885p2.html
9.5

PS3:
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/105/1057012p1.html
6.2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 22, 2009, 10:52:21 AM
edit: beaten.

8.2 on PS3 since this isn't GAF.   :P
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 22, 2009, 10:58:03 AM
I guess Sony fans can replay Uncharted 2 for the 5th time instead of getting their cheeseburger surprise on. :teehee
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 22, 2009, 10:59:18 AM
will wait for pc version.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 22, 2009, 11:08:21 AM
edit: beaten.

8.2 on PS3 since this isn't GAF.   :P

here on EB we deduct 2 points from all ps3 game reviews.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Stoney Mason on December 22, 2009, 11:08:43 AM
lol. You can already see the God of War defense force assembling in certain corners...

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3177422
http://www.gamesradar.com/ps3/bayonetta/review/super-review-bayonetta/a-2009122114251985044/g-2008051422211399009
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 22, 2009, 12:33:27 PM
Ugh this will be the first xbox 360 non music game I pick up since L4D1 last year.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Third on December 22, 2009, 01:34:42 PM
So Gameinformer is giving both versions the same score? (9)

And Gaymsradar is such a shitty site now. I've being attacked by its pop ups like crazy.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Rman on December 22, 2009, 08:49:50 PM
Sprsk is still holding on to the hope that the PS3 version is somehow getting fixed.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Rman on December 22, 2009, 08:52:31 PM
Sprsk is still holding on to the hope that the PS3 version is somehow getting fixed.
:lol
Apparently the Sony ninjas were on the scene :teehee
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 22, 2009, 09:05:19 PM
Sprsk is still holding on to the hope that the PS3 version is somehow getting fixed.

What the fuck?  The game has been out for a couple of months now.  What is wrong with him and the other posters who keep holding out for this reason?  Just buy the 360 version; jesus fuck why is THE CONTROLLER such a big deal to people? 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 22, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Because it's big and bloated to some?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 22, 2009, 09:27:49 PM
Because it's big and bloated to some?

Honey, I know what big and bloated is.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 22, 2009, 09:32:43 PM
Because it's big and bloated to some?

That's not even the reason usually given.  The 360 pad isn't even oversized like the original Xbox controllers were.  Its problem is its dpad, but that doesn't matter for Bayonetta.  This is a game where one version is clearly superior to the other.  You cannot argue otherwise.  These guys with both systems whining and bitching over the PS3 version are distinguished mentally-challenged.  Buy it for the 360, love the shit out of it, and forget about the PS3 fuck-up.  Or buy the inferior version, deal with the shittier frame rate and ugly graphics.  Just shut the fuck up about it already.  That GAF thread is so tired and stupid I haven't bothered reading it for a week.  Keeps going in circles.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Purple Filth on December 22, 2009, 09:56:20 PM
Sprsk is still holding on to the hope that the PS3 version is somehow getting fixed.
:lol
Apparently the Sony ninjas were on the scene :teehee

Yea to ensure it commits seppuku
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on December 23, 2009, 01:56:15 AM
Because it's big and bloated to some?

That's not even the reason usually given.  The 360 pad isn't even oversized like the original Xbox controllers were.  Its problem is its dpad, but that doesn't matter for Bayonetta.  This is a game where one version is clearly superior to the other.  You cannot argue otherwise.  These guys with both systems whining and bitching over the PS3 version are distinguished mentally-challenged.  Buy it for the 360, love the shit out of it, and forget about the PS3 fuck-up.  Or buy the inferior version, deal with the shittier frame rate and ugly graphics.  Just shut the fuck up about it already.  That GAF thread is so tired and stupid I haven't bothered reading it for a week.  Keeps going in circles.
Yeah, that's not arguing, it's an emotional appeal; at which point, it becomes a fallacy. Or in GAF's case, a phallacy.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on December 23, 2009, 02:19:14 AM
Quote
These guys with both systems whining and bitching over the PS3 version are distinguished mentally-challenged.

"First let me say that i am not a fanboy,i own both systems".......:lol

Yes you are.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 23, 2009, 05:56:16 PM
So I finished the game on normal.  Regarding some of the achievements, can I get them on easy and still have them count.  There's a few that seem like they'd be kind of a pain in the ass on normal but would probably be fairly easy to do on easy.

One of the things I haven't been able to do is find all the umbran tears of blood...I've only spotted about 19 crows throughout the whole game.  The other 30 or so must be damn well hidden.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 24, 2009, 12:25:50 AM
So I finished the game on normal.  Regarding some of the achievements, can I get them on easy and still have them count.  There's a few that seem like they'd be kind of a pain in the ass on normal but would probably be fairly easy to do on easy.

Unless they're ones that state a specific difficulty, I don't see why you can't get them on easy.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 24, 2009, 01:42:17 AM
Sweet, going to try a few of those today, then.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 24, 2009, 02:42:40 AM
The 360 controller isn't even bad, wtf.  I mean, obviously not meant for fighting games, but then neither is the Sony pad.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 24, 2009, 04:46:36 AM
Quote
What the fuck?  The game has been out for a couple of months now.  What is wrong with him and the other posters who keep holding out for this reason?  Just buy the 360 version; jesus fuck why is THE CONTROLLER such a big deal to people? 


that's what i don't get - if they are going to get the PS3 version of every thing and they don't REALLY like Halo, then SELL the damn X360s !

A lot of these guys don't even have XBL Gold.  What the fuck do they use their 360s for if they aren't playing online and aren't buying games for it?   :lol

Quote
I mean, this is getting ridiculous - the game is clearly better on the X360 , it's NOT going to get patched by Sony's imaginary ninjas, and they ALREADY OWN AN X360. HELL, BUY THE 1000 yen controller adapter and you can solve your damn controller hang up too!

it's beyond insane. It's shocking that it's not just one person, it's a whole gang of people.

smfh.


Can't be said enough.  At this point, fuck 'em.  Let them miss out on a great game.  Doesn't matter to me.

The 360 controller isn't even bad, wtf.  I mean, obviously not meant for fighting games, but then neither is the Sony pad.

The Sony pad is better for fighters than the 360 pad, but that doesn't even matter for this game anyway.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 24, 2009, 05:06:31 AM
Saturn pad is king...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 24, 2009, 05:49:42 AM
Hard mode in Bayonetta is kicking my ass.  Think I'm going to go back to normal mode and earn some halos so I can buy some of the accessories I suspect would make the going easier in hard mode.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on December 24, 2009, 11:30:28 AM
Quote
What the fuck?  The game has been out for a couple of months now.  What is wrong with him and the other posters who keep holding out for this reason?  Just buy the 360 version; jesus fuck why is THE CONTROLLER such a big deal to people? 


that's what i don't get - if they are going to get the PS3 version of every thing and they don't REALLY like Halo, then SELL the damn X360s !

I mean, this is getting ridiculous - the game is clearly better on the X360 , it's NOT going to get patched by Sony's imaginary ninjas, and they ALREADY OWN AN X360. HELL, BUY THE 1000 yen controller adapter and you can solve your damn controller hang up too!

it's beyond insane. It's shocking that it's not just one person, it's a whole gang of people.

smfh.


I only own my 360 because of the absurb amount of money i've put in on Rock Band and Guitar Hero DLC on the pos. So I keep mine around for music games, but it's time might be getting near anyways because I don't want to pay $100 for a fucking bigger hard drive because Microsoft wants to make a penny off of everyone. Nearly $2 a gig, go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 24, 2009, 11:37:21 AM
Hard mode in Bayonetta is kicking my ass.  Think I'm going to go back to normal mode and earn some halos so I can buy some of the accessories I suspect would make the going easier in hard mode.

Same thing happened to me.  Was not expecting enemies to pop up in spots they didn't in normal mode.  Even the prologue in the graveyard kicked my ass!   :lol  A.I. is a lot more aggressive, too.

:bow :bow :bow Bayonetta :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 24, 2009, 11:38:48 AM
Hard mode in Bayonetta is kicking my ass.  Think I'm going to go back to normal mode and earn some halos so I can buy some of the accessories I suspect would make the going easier in hard mode.

Same thing happened to me.  Was not expecting enemies to pop up in spots they didn't in normal mode.  Even the prologue in the graveyard kicked my ass!   :lol  A.I. is a lot more aggressive, too.

:bow :bow :bow Bayonetta :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 

So it does the whole remixed fights thing that DMC and NG did?  awesome.   are there new enemies too?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 24, 2009, 11:41:47 AM
lol, they're all flogging over something DMC's had since forever but ok. ITT: Action noobs
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 24, 2009, 12:32:38 PM
I've been thinking about making a new thread since this one is mainly demo and import impressions. Probably unnecessary though.

Anywho 13 more days!  :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 24, 2009, 12:45:38 PM
I've been thinking about making a new thread since this one is mainly demo and import impressions. Probably unnecessary though.

The import is identical. Everything is in English.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 24, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
Hard mode in Bayonetta is kicking my ass.  Think I'm going to go back to normal mode and earn some halos so I can buy some of the accessories I suspect would make the going easier in hard mode.

Same thing happened to me.  Was not expecting enemies to pop up in spots they didn't in normal mode.  Even the prologue in the graveyard kicked my ass!   :lol  A.I. is a lot more aggressive, too.

:bow :bow :bow Bayonetta :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 

So it does the whole remixed fights thing that DMC and NG did?  awesome.   are there new enemies too?

Not new enemies (that I saw), just ones that won't normally appear until later in the game popping up in places you don't expect them to!  BUT there are a few slots in my enemy list that are still listed as "??????".  I know one of them is the hidden boss.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on December 24, 2009, 01:44:55 PM
I've been thinking about making a new thread since this one is mainly demo and import impressions. Probably unnecessary though.

The import is identical. Everything is in English.

Running out of reasons to make a new one. :/

I know what the hidden boss is. Pretty neat.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 24, 2009, 01:46:31 PM
Just make a new thread. Bayonetta isnt out yet.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 24, 2009, 05:52:30 PM
Hard mode in Bayonetta is kicking my ass.  Think I'm going to go back to normal mode and earn some halos so I can buy some of the accessories I suspect would make the going easier in hard mode.

Same thing happened to me.  Was not expecting enemies to pop up in spots they didn't in normal mode.  Even the prologue in the graveyard kicked my ass!   :lol  A.I. is a lot more aggressive, too.

:bow :bow :bow Bayonetta :bow2 :bow2 :bow2 

There's new timing against most of the grunts (and some of the bosses too) for activating Witch Time.  I keep getting my ass kicked by the Jeanne flashback in chapter 2, though I managed to finish Chapter 1 with  a Gold Award.

I think I need the Moon of Maha-Kaala (or however it's spelled) to continue with the game on hard mode.  That one costs 100,000 Halos, which should be easy enough to get in the latter chapters of the game.

I got a few of the achievements switching to easy mode yesterday night (felt a little guilty about it though not enough to stop me from doing it :lol).  Could you tell me how to get the A Mother's Love achievement, lyte?  PM it to me or something if you don't wanna post spoilerz in the thread.  I noticed you have it but I don't.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 24, 2009, 06:26:50 PM
Ichi-- I don't remember how I got it.  The achievement is pretty vague. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
There are a few parts where Cereza's shield can be damaged, and I made sure she wasn't attacked, so maybe that was it?
[close]

I've been thinking about making a new thread since this one is mainly demo and import impressions. Probably unnecessary though.

The import is identical. Everything is in English.

Running out of reasons to make a new one. :/

I know what the hidden boss is. Pretty neat.

We don't need a new thread.  This is one is fine.  Change the OP/title if you want to.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 24, 2009, 10:53:23 PM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
She always got hit at least once or twice when I did those parts.  I might have to switch to easy.  Or did you have a specific weapon equipped?
[close]

About the secret boss...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I hear it's Rodin.
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 28, 2009, 04:25:19 PM
I forgot that DMC fans are only topped by Sonic fans in the "sad-worship-of-the-protagonist" category:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19051145&postcount=792

seems bayonetta will be co-opted by them too. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on December 29, 2009, 11:59:27 AM
Just finished it...World can end tomorrow...i don't care

 :heartbeat :heartbeatBAYONETTA :heartbeat :heartbeat
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 29, 2009, 12:11:31 PM
In normal?  I'm struggling with hard mode, still.  Taking a break from the game due to the frustration.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on December 29, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
Normal...first time play
I can understand your pain,you have to be totally concentrated on the game...no mistakes allowed
This is the first game in ages that has forced me to say,"you should take a break,have a good night sleep and then play it"

Some people on the internet think that they have seen everything by playing the demo...what a mistake
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 29, 2009, 12:33:58 PM
By the time I finished on normal, I was like "Well, I can probably handle at least the first few chapters of hard mode before things start getting rough."  Well, I started getting my ass kicked in the prologue and the punishment just continued.  I've been working on getting halos to get some of the better accessories (I didn't buy any in my normal playthru) because they're probably necessary to beat the game in hard mode.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on December 30, 2009, 01:02:01 AM
I forgot that DMC fans are only topped by Sonic fans in the "sad-worship-of-the-protagonist" category:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19051145&postcount=792

seems bayonetta will be co-opted by them too. 
The pink barrels on her gun are looking pretty distended and dubious.  :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 01:10:55 AM
i want this so bad

fffffffffuuuuuuuuu
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 05:56:26 PM
By the time I finished on normal, I was like "Well, I can probably handle at least the first few chapters of hard mode before things start getting rough."  Well, I started getting my ass kicked in the prologue and the punishment just continued.  I've been working on getting halos to get some of the better accessories (I didn't buy any in my normal playthru) because they're probably necessary to beat the game in hard mode.

Same here.  I gotta work on getting everything though; would like to 1000/1000 this.  Only have half the achievements right now.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: WrikaWrek on December 30, 2009, 06:14:40 PM
Ps3 is only better than the 360 controller in its D pad.

Which means a game like Street Fighter and Pro Evolution is better played on the PS3. Having finished Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry 3 on the Ps2 and then Devil May Cry 4 on a 360 controller i can seriously tell people that say the PS3 controller is better for action games to go fuck off.

This ain't pro evolution bitch.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2009, 06:17:10 PM
Played the demo. It was alright. Seems offensive is more important than defense, though, based on the demo; yawn. Enjoyed the NGS2 demo more. Gonna rent.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 06:17:45 PM
YAWN
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2009, 06:18:11 PM
YAWN
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2009, 06:18:41 PM
Played the demo. It was alright. Seems offensive is more important than defense, yawn. Enjoyed the NGS2 demo more. Gonna rent.


FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK  YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGUUUUUUUUUUUU~

:uguu



Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 06:24:58 PM
of course its going to be more offensive

its from the guy that made devil may cry
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 06:25:34 PM
Played the demo. It was alright. Seems offensive is more important than defense, though, based on the demo; yawn. Enjoyed the NGS2 demo more. Gonna rent.


NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope.  You cannot get through the game without the dodge and witch time.  The hardest difficulty setting available turns witch time OFF, so I cannot even begin to imagine how insane that is. 

How many times in this thread have those of us who have played through Bayonetta told you that the demo is nothing compared to the full game?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 06:26:41 PM
ITS SO BORING IT MADE HIMURO FALL ASLEEP

COURSE ITS NOT AS EXHILIRATING AS FINAL FANTASY XIII
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 06:35:50 PM
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope

its a hell of a lot more offensive than ninja gaiden

which isnt a bad thing, its like the viewtiful joe of action games, if that cant get you excited i dont know what will
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 06:56:41 PM
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnope

its a hell of a lot more offensive than ninja gaiden

which isnt a bad thing, its like the viewtiful joe of action games, if that cant get you excited i dont know what will

It might seem that way from the demo, but you spend a hell of a lot of time utilizing the dodge button and avoiding attacks.  There's no blocking like NG though, sure.  It's also more skill-based, since timing is needed to be able to get witch time going when you need it, and it can get difficult when you're surrounded by enemies while being slowly pulled towards huge engine fans, for example.

Really, it doesn't matter.  Bayonetta is the best 3D action game ever made.  Period.  Naysayers and non-believers will be converted to the cult of Bayonetta soon enough.  :bow KAMIYA, THOU ART OUR SAVIOR.  :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 30, 2009, 07:02:57 PM
...

Get out, Himuro.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 07:04:20 PM
And take ya dusty ass elbows with ya too
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 30, 2009, 07:25:32 PM
game will bomb.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 07:47:34 PM
your face will bomb

OHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2009, 08:25:53 PM
And take ya dusty ass elbows with ya too

scritch scritch

slapping some lotion right now.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 30, 2009, 08:27:55 PM
game will bomb.

i can't wait to pick it up for $20 in march :drool
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2009, 08:28:23 PM
Word.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 08:29:18 PM
game will bomb.

Yeah, it will.  ONLY THE SELECT FEW, THE CHOSEN, SHALL FEEL THE GLORY AND THE SHINING LIGHT OF BAYONETTA.  It's another stellar effort from Clover Platinum Games and Capcom Sega.

Sega music-stuff (and maybe those halos, too) aside, the game feels incredibly "Capcomish."  Not surprising given who made it, of course!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 08:29:42 PM
Archie, Himuro BANNED.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2009, 08:30:20 PM
Is the story cheesy and hilarious?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on December 30, 2009, 08:32:07 PM
Archie, Himuro BANNED.

It's still gonna be GOTY but I am a dirty poor. :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 30, 2009, 08:34:08 PM
Archie, Himuro BANNED.

It's still gonna be GOTY but I am a dirty poor. :'(

SELL BLOOD.  NO EXCUSES.

Is the story cheesy and hilarious?

Yes.  The difference is that it's self-aware of its own cheesiness.  Broken record time-- it doesn't take itself seriously (up until the very end) and also makes fun of other (Capcom) games.  There are references to Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil 4, and Devil May Cry.  If you're like Prole, you'll also be glad to know that all cut scenes can be skipped.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2009, 08:34:59 PM
Oh, so it doesn't take its cheesiness seriously? Oh man, awesome.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 08:43:18 PM
himuro has a bad track record when it comes to anticipation of action games

i remember him splooging all over chat about ng2 and look how that turned out
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Rman on December 30, 2009, 08:46:13 PM
Weren't you a big Team Ninja cigarillo, Drewsy?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 08:46:54 PM
the biggest
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 09:02:06 PM
i based my anticipation on ng2 based on the game before it

himuro based his on the demo itself, if anything the demo made me concerned
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 30, 2009, 09:23:20 PM
drew is just a loser who can't beat ng2 master ninja.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on December 30, 2009, 09:25:02 PM
If NG2 ran at a constant 60 fps, had a proper scoring system (beyond the survival DLC) and if Master Ninja mode was slightly rebalanced it would be a much better game than NGB. NGB may be the better game as a whole, but the combat in NG2 just blows NGB out of the water.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 09:27:54 PM
drew is just a loser who can't beat ng2 master ninja.

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHU
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 30, 2009, 09:28:09 PM
master ninja? he can't even beat mentor.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 30, 2009, 09:31:25 PM
himuro has a bad track record when it comes to anticipation of action games

i remember him splooging all over chat about ng2 and look how that turned out

yeah, an awesome game. :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 30, 2009, 09:52:37 PM
Oh, so it doesn't take its cheesiness seriously? Oh man, awesome.

What the fuck?  Have you seen ANY media in regards to this game?  That's one of the reasons I love it.  The game designers are totally in on the joke.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 30, 2009, 09:54:13 PM
Played the demo. It was alright. Seems offensive is more important than defense, though, based on the demo; yawn. Enjoyed the NGS2 demo more. Gonna rent.

Wow, Himuro has absolutely NO FUCKING UNDERSTANDING of Witch Time and the battle system. :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 30, 2009, 10:05:50 PM
I'm pretty sure he skipped the entirety of this thread, too.  I'm pretty sure at least a few people were praising witch time and the whole defensive/timing aspect of the game...

:usavich Himuro :usavich
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 30, 2009, 10:10:33 PM
you can't use witch time on the hardest difficulty anyway.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 30, 2009, 10:13:55 PM
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=31996.msg1004756#msg1004756
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 30, 2009, 10:17:28 PM
There are accessories that activate witch time, so I imagine using those is the only way to finish infinite climax mode?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 30, 2009, 10:22:06 PM
I just checked GameFAQs, you have to use accessories that activate witch time in certain limited ways in the hardest difficulty.

I don't think I'll ever be able to finish Infinite Climax mode with the trouble hard mode is giving me.

:usavich "But Bayonetta is more offensive than defensive!" :usavich
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 10:36:23 PM
master ninja? he can't even beat mentor.

lol yes i can, i just wasnt #2 IN THE WORLD THANK YOU VERY MUCH on any of the harder difficulties, thus didnt take a pic of them, i rock at ninja gaiden, ROCK :rock
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2009, 11:47:13 PM
NG2 is not worth playing on mentor or master ninja. just like GoW isn't worth playing on harder difficulties either...because neither game is fun on account of shitty difficulty balancing that limits your options to practically nothing in combat except the safest moves.  NGS2 is barely worth playing on any difficulty because it's boring as shit drying on Madeline Albright's chest.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 11:48:07 PM
Yikes, sounds like that Wii has got to you. Plugging my ears at this casual talk
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 30, 2009, 11:49:06 PM
Yikes, sounds like that Wii has got to you. Plugging my ears at this casual talk

there are games worth my time and there are others that aren't.  just sayin'. 

NGB is hard as fuck on harder difficulties, but you won't hear me complain about it.   
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on December 30, 2009, 11:49:24 PM
Bayonetta is all about Witch Time. Himumu fails.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 30, 2009, 11:52:40 PM
demi made his only ng2 run with just the dragon sword iirc

thats just not the way the game is suppossed to be played

plugin my ears at this achievement whoreing nigg@
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 30, 2009, 11:59:07 PM
You mean I'm not supposed to spam Flying Swallow? Nobody's praising NG2 as a GOOD game, here...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 12:03:38 AM
ok good

just checking
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 31, 2009, 12:04:51 AM
yeah man, you were supposed to abuse the Scythe UT all the way.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 12:21:03 AM
Played the demo. It was alright. Seems offensive is more important than defense, though, based on the demo; yawn. Enjoyed the NGS2 demo more. Gonna rent.

Wow, Himuro has absolutely NO FUCKING UNDERSTANDING of Witch Time and the battle system. :rofl :rofl :rofl

I was able to beat the demo without any of this.

What is witch time again? The thing where you twirl the analog stick and tap the button so you can shoot rapidly in a circular area? Or that part where shit gets purple?

I played the ps3 demo.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 31, 2009, 12:25:08 AM
What is witch time again? The thing where you twirl the analog stick and tap the button so you can shoot rapidly in a circular area? Or that part where shit gets purple?
                          /
                      :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on December 31, 2009, 12:25:42 AM
Played the demo. It was alright. Seems offensive is more important than defense, though, based on the demo; yawn. Enjoyed the NGS2 demo more. Gonna rent.

Wow, Himuro has absolutely NO FUCKING UNDERSTANDING of Witch Time and the battle system. :rofl :rofl :rofl

I played the ps3 demo.
witch time is always on there.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 12:26:01 AM
I played the ps3 demo.

it all makes sense now
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 12:28:04 AM
Serious? No wonder.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 31, 2009, 12:28:29 AM
Holy fuck, Himu :usavich :usavich :usavich

Witch Time is when you SLOW DOWN TIME when dodging after being attacked.  I mean, it's pretty self-explanatory.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 31, 2009, 12:29:04 AM
Played the demo. It was alright. Seems offensive is more important than defense, though, based on the demo; yawn. Enjoyed the NGS2 demo more. Gonna rent.

Wow, Himuro has absolutely NO FUCKING UNDERSTANDING of Witch Time and the battle system. :rofl :rofl :rofl

I played the ps3 demo.
witch time is always on there.

rofl, I see what u did there. :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 12:30:20 AM
Yeah.

Didn't do that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 12:31:27 AM
goddammit himuro

just goddammit
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 12:35:00 AM
:teehee
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 31, 2009, 12:38:16 AM
praising Prince of Persia and knocking Bayonetta  :-\
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 31, 2009, 12:42:58 AM
Yeah.

Didn't do that.

Get out of this thread and don't come back until you do.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 12:44:23 AM
I'm almost done with Uncharted 2. Got 2 more chapters. Plan on beating it tonight, but I'll give the Bayonetta another whirl.

Yeah.

Didn't do that.

Get out of this thread and don't come back until you do.

Hopefully the full game requires me to. If I'm good enough to not have to use it, it's not such a great feature, now is it? :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 31, 2009, 12:47:39 AM
Now you're just trolling.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 12:49:39 AM
Yeah, I was right. Witch time is that part in the tutorial when shit gets purple. Yeah, didn't use that in the demo. I'll play it this time with witch time in mind.

Now you're just trolling.

No shit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 31, 2009, 12:56:58 AM
Play the demo on 360 instead.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 01:07:42 AM
I've got it so can activate witch time after most attacks now. The highlight of the demo, of course, is the boss. Air rolling, witch timing his attacks are pretty fun.

In the final game is hard mode unlocked from the get go? Y/N.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 31, 2009, 01:27:12 AM
No, you have to go through normal first.  The stages in the demo are really easy compared to the rest of the game, though.  Difficulty keeps ramping up progressively.

And hard mode difficulty is insane.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on December 31, 2009, 08:24:43 AM
praising Prince of Persia and knocking Bayonetta  :-\

Himuro is the worst gamer ever.

On topic,

How are you doing Ichi?I am on chapter 3 and i am kicking some serious ass,even getting platinum awards at impossibly insane places.
Stick with the game...my tip,use environment to your advantage whenever you can.
Bayonetta is a very capable girl :heartbeat
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on December 31, 2009, 09:04:36 AM
You playing it on hard now?

I finished chapter 1, but I'm stuck in the opening battle of chapter 2 against Jeanne in which you don't have access to your regular equipment and accessories.

Now I'm trying to do all the Alfheim challenges to complete my witch hearts and magic pearls.  Earning money at the same time (though I'm wasting it all on the extra costumes, hahah).
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on December 31, 2009, 10:29:11 AM
You playing it on hard now?

I finished chapter 1, but I'm stuck in the opening battle of chapter 2 against Jeanne in which you don't have access to your regular equipment and accessories.

Now I'm trying to do all the Alfheim challenges to complete my witch hearts and magic pearls.  Earning money at the same time (though I'm wasting it all on the extra costumes, hahah).
Yes i am playing it on hard.
A little tip for that battle,
spoiler (click to show/hide)
climb onto ceiling,she can't follow you,blast her with guns,position near the big white light source,it will take some time and be ready to dodge
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 31, 2009, 12:23:23 PM
stupid chicago, no early bayonetta anywhere
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 31, 2009, 04:29:33 PM
[Himuro is] praising Prince of Persia and knocking Bayonetta.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 05:30:54 PM
I'm not knocking Bayonetta.

I'm knocking Bayonetta's ps3 demo, which Lyte has confirmed to be a poor representation of the final game. The final game, however, is probably as good as he says it is (although I have my doubts).

Plus, riling up you man babies is always as fun as ever.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 31, 2009, 05:32:25 PM
Suddenly, Himuro is mature
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 05:34:39 PM
Shut up and let me lick your taint, Demi.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 31, 2009, 05:35:52 PM
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5121/1262298741330.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 05:36:25 PM
That looks like this kid who used to go to my church.

His name was Prince (yes I am serious).

Like the price tag on his jersey. nicca stole dat. :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on December 31, 2009, 05:39:01 PM
I found it on Beezy's facebook.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Himu on December 31, 2009, 05:49:07 PM
:lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on December 31, 2009, 05:50:37 PM
I'm not knocking Bayonetta.

I'm knocking Bayonetta's ps3 demo, which Lyte has confirmed to be a poor representation of the final game. The final game, however, is probably as good as he says it is (although I have my doubts).

Plus, riling up you man babies is always as fun as ever.

This sounds familiar...where have I seen that response before?

Oh yes, in the Super Mario 64 thread.  http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32680.180

:bow This thread :bow2

Get all the reactions I want! :bow2

Like putty in my hands :bow2

:bow Trash talk nostalgia fan favorite + say B-game is better than mario + ??? = profit :bow2

No reason to post at EB anymore! My work is done!

You can't even lie :lol

Revoke Himumu's gamer license now.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 31, 2009, 06:15:30 PM
I found it on Beezy's facebook.
lies
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 06:25:34 PM
im surprised demi even knows what facebook is let alone knows how to work it
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 31, 2009, 07:14:18 PM
(http://imgur.com/8Xzfx.jpg)

UNCE UNCE UNCE
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on December 31, 2009, 07:50:24 PM
 :maf

http://videogamesnewyork.com/

They just got Bayonetta in today. Hopefully, I get a chance to go there tomorrow.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 08:00:11 PM
where did you get that

WHERE
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 31, 2009, 08:08:38 PM
Go to bestbuy and ask for it...they'll get it out of the back room.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on December 31, 2009, 08:15:20 PM
 :o

edit: theyre closed fml
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 01, 2010, 01:50:41 AM
Game:  Bayonetta
System: Xbox 360
Vsync: No
Review by: Kranz "the fafkanator" Fafka

Bayonetta - the deepest witch action you will find all year

Bayonetta is a video game that is really good.  I really like the art style and presentation of it.  From the second you press "start", the action is ratcheted all the way up through 10.  Bayonetta is the name of the main character and also the game.  She is a witch who has forgotten her memory.  People help her try to remember her memories but she recalls things through the game that help jog it. 

I like the character and story a lot and I can really relate.  My girlfriend practices wicca and wears glasses, so in a way bayonetta is like my real life.  The story of the game is really the main draw here.  I started the game on normal but it was cheap, so I went for the easiest mode, which takes away the hassle of controlling the characters every movement and makes it so you only need one hand on the controller to play (and for as hot as this witch is, this is very important #1!)  I recommend this to most players because it is really the easiest way to quickly get through the game while watching lots of cool action. It becomes like the upcoming PS3 game Heavy Rain except its more like watching an cool anime than a soap opera.

Overall, the sound is very great and has lots of good music. 

7/10
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2010, 02:00:46 AM
evilbore has the best reviews :rock
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 02:08:50 AM
It would be a much better game if it were on the Wii. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 02:13:31 AM
ive been tracking you get dem cheevs all night :drool
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 01, 2010, 02:23:19 AM
:rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on January 01, 2010, 02:54:05 AM
Quote
Vsync: No
lmao
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 01, 2010, 11:37:21 AM
I see you lurking Kranz. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU LURKING WHEN YOU COULD BE PLAYING BAYONETTA. I FUCKING HATE YOU  :gun :gun :gun
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 01, 2010, 12:05:14 PM
I'm taking a break from it.  Probably will start playing it again when all the USBoreans here get it and start posting about it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on January 01, 2010, 12:13:48 PM
I'd like to get the game but there is no way I can walk into a store and buy it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 01, 2010, 12:36:49 PM
I'd like to get the game but there is no way I can walk into a store and buy it.

Throw your gamer card immediately and buy a Wii :'(...if you don't have it already

Bayonetta is an excellent,brilliant challenging fighting game literally like no other.It will test your focus,concentration,reflexes like no other game.


Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 02:12:51 PM
im about to try best buy

kranz if this doesnt work i am holding you personally responsible and expect you to paypal me some gas money

edit: no dice, the girl went in the back and came out giving me the whole shpeel about the street date.  me: "i heard someone got it here though, cant you just grab it?" fuck my life
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 01, 2010, 04:28:32 PM
Sorry to hear that...try more bestbuys!

If it's any consolation, Kamiya deserves a nobel peace prize for this game. 

Only complaint is when a fucking QTE kills you and screws up your chapter score.  Look out for those.  Otherwise, it's fucking perfect.  Look out for all the capcom/clover references too.  good fan service there.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 04:53:33 PM
yeah, i think i should have looked for the fattest most neckbearded worker there, i had this girl that was my age that didnt even know how to spell bayonetta, i think if i ask someone whos interested in the game theyd just grab it for me, finding someone like that is going to be like looking for a needle in a haystack though, maybe ill just wait for four days
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 01, 2010, 04:56:07 PM
WAITING IS THE HARDEST THING TO DO.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 05:45:51 PM
just checked kranz's cheevs again

you can mix potions? wtf is that about?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 01, 2010, 06:22:14 PM
yeah, you get ingredients from breaking stuff.  there's 3 colors-- red, yellow, green.  you use them to make health potions (green herbs), something that raises your strength, and another that raises your defense, I think.  the last two are temporary. 

I'm starting to get my ass seriously kicked, so I've been grinding to get all the techniques and stuff.  A lot of the regular enemies are like bosses from other games...agni and rudra are regular enemies in this. :lol 

Play other games while you're waiting for this because nothing else will ever be fun again.  It's basically DMC4, if Kamiya had made it.  DMC4 actually feels like more of a spin-off in retrospect compared to this game.  And of course, the Bayonetta/Jeanne scenes are totally dante and virgil. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 01, 2010, 06:24:31 PM
Dont worry, I started a projectile run in NG2 in preparation
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 01, 2010, 06:26:25 PM
on acolyte psh
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 01, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
jeez, i'm nerd-gasming.   


yeah, playing NG2 before it is a good idea...after all, if you force yourself to play something shitty as hell before this game, it'll make it all the more fun. :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 01, 2010, 06:31:56 PM
yeah, you get ingredients from breaking stuff.  there's 3 colors-- red, yellow, green.  you use them to make health potions (green herbs), something that raises your strength, and another that raises your defense, I think.  the last two are temporary. 

I'm starting to get my ass seriously kicked, so I've been grinding to get all the techniques and stuff.  A lot of the regular enemies are like bosses from other games...agni and rudra are regular enemies in this. :lol 

Play other games while you're waiting for this because nothing else will ever be fun again.  It's basically DMC4, if Kamiya had made it.  DMC4 actually feels like more of a spin-off in retrospect compared to this game.  And of course, the Bayonetta/Jeanne scenes are totally dante and virgil. 

 :pimp

And what you have played so far is absolutely nothing in comparison to what's coming later.   8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 01, 2010, 09:44:52 PM
They're not potions, though...they're lollypops. :lol

(http://www.omega-level.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bayonettababe.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 02, 2010, 12:59:38 AM
just fought the chapter 7 boss.


game of the gen. 



I got all the techniques, but now I'm looking at these accessories, which look like they're going to make the combat even deeper.  If you can equip 3 at once and each one has it's own technique/attribute, then you're basically making DMC styles out of the accessories (looks like there's about 20 you can buy.) Some of them have DMC-esque techniques, like royal guard type shit. In other words, it has a customizable style system.  Jesus fucking christ  :smug

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 02, 2010, 01:12:43 AM
better than ngb?

y/n
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 02, 2010, 01:16:44 AM
....





.....






...









....






dude that's not a fair question, that's like asking me to punch dad in the nuts  :-\





...









spoiler (click to show/hide)
if the next 100 hours are like the first 11, then definitely
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 02, 2010, 01:17:23 AM
just fought the chapter 7 boss.


game of the gen. 



I got all the techniques, but now I'm looking at these accessories, which look like they're going to make the combat even deeper.  If you can equip 3 at once and each one has it's own technique/attribute, then you're basically making DMC styles out of the accessories (looks like there's about 20 you can buy.)  In other words, it has a customizable style system.  Jesus fucking christ  :smug



There's one that activates witch time automatically whenever you get hit...I would skip that one unless you have trouble with witch time timing.  The Moon of Maaha Kaala (sp?) should be the first one you get.  Start saving up halos. :)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 02, 2010, 02:12:24 PM
I've decided that it's not worth it to go down to Manhattan just to get this game early. I'll wait until Tuesday. :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 02, 2010, 02:13:17 PM
THREE MORE DAYS
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: ManaByte on January 02, 2010, 09:48:56 PM
Just saw how shit the PS3 port is. Wow.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 02, 2010, 09:58:53 PM
better than ngb?

y/n

y

Messed around with the hard difficulty mode today. I'm too old for that shit. :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 02, 2010, 11:16:51 PM
Ice skates!!!

It's a celebration, bitches!!!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 02, 2010, 11:29:03 PM
Odette + the katana are my two favorite weapons to use in the game. :)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 02, 2010, 11:30:17 PM
yeah i got that spoiled for me reading the ign review

in the future please put weapon spoilers (yes weapons are spoilers) in the conviently provided spoiler brackets

edit: you know what fuck it im just going to blackout and only visit this thread to post impressions/after im done with my first runthrough

carry on
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 12:29:49 AM
Weapons are spoilers?  Really?

OK, man. :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 12:38:20 AM
i was referring to kranzes post about ice skates

but yeah, it is, think about it, action games have 3 things:

art style, stupid story, and weapons

knowing about all the weapons and items before you play through the game can suck the fun out of it

ok now im out for reals
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 12:48:22 AM
The katana has been mentioned in most of the reviews so I thought it'd be OK to mention it.  I guess you're right, though.  Being surprised by the weapons you get was part of the fun of my playthrough.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 12:57:43 AM
like i said i wasnt talking to you, the katana was in the demo and i obviously have no idea what that other word means :P
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 01:19:07 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
bayonetta dies
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 03, 2010, 01:23:39 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Cereza is actually young Bayonetta
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 01:27:55 AM
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Luka is actually Bayonetta's son.
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 01:30:06 AM
you can taunt cereza, spread eagle
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 02:38:35 AM
the motorcycle part went on for too long. only real dud part so far.  makes up for it with devil trigger enemies
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 03, 2010, 04:29:24 AM
$10 gift card if you buy Bayonetta at TRU
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 05:54:43 AM
US Bayonetta is region-free.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 03, 2010, 06:06:01 AM
Does someone know what exactly taunts do?

I am on ch 9(hard) and it just hit me,why i am not using taunts?!

I have found something on gamefaqs that explains some things,
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=946346&topic=52473093 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=946346&topic=52473093)

Has anybody here has been experimenting with taunts?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 06:45:06 AM
Taunts make enemies angry (you'll notice that they'll start looking like they're on fire).  They'll become faster and harder to beat.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 03, 2010, 08:22:17 AM
No spoilers you feggits.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 09:37:32 AM
there's an achievement for beating 5 devil triggered enemies without getting hit that doesn't seem to be working.  I taunt enemies in every fight (you get more combo points for beating taunted enemies) and it hasn't worked yet.  I'm wondering if it's 5 in a row (that would be a more fun achievement.) 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 10:22:05 AM
Later on you can buy an item that makes all enemies enraged, and you can get that achievement really easily.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 10:39:20 AM
Cool, maybe I'll buy that one next.   

I'm up to chapter 12, will beat it today.



Remember people:
(http://imgur.com/WwrNc.png)

:uguu -kya hahaha
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 11:03:19 AM
I didn't even touch easy mode until I beat the game on normal.

I switched to easy mode for a few of the achievements, though. *cough*
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 12:10:14 PM
which ones did you get in easy mode?  (also, the pic was just in general, not at you specifically...just in case heh)

at this point I'm trying to do alright, but I'm using items and stuff; only grinded to get the parrying armlet. I die a couple times a chapter. Those enemies that are a combination of Agni+Rudra+the electric demons from DMC4 always get me.  I just wanna beat the game once so I can get the menu option that shows you all your chapter scores at once.  Then shit is on.   

The armlet that lets you parry is fucking great!  :bow Third Strike :bow2

and if that's a weapon spoiler, then maybe it's time for a proper bayonetta thread that people can steer clear of.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 12:20:30 PM
The naughty tentacles one (just because the tentacles show up at around 3/4 of the level and I didn't want to fight seriously just to get to that point) and the 'fire all afterburners' pure platinum one in chapter XIV verses 1 & 2.

Yeah, I fucking HATE that duo of demons.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 12:25:33 PM
They are fucking hard, though they attack a lot, so it's easy to get witch time.  the basic PKP combo decimates them pretty fast...you won't get a good grade for the fight, but you'll survive. 

I think my favorite enemies are the chicks who are like Nicchae and Ishtaros from NG.  It's cool that there are so many references to past action games!   I hope this sells well so we get a sequel.   
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 12:40:52 PM
I've never played DMC or NG so I'm not getting any of your references...probably a good thing because now Bayonetta is starting to sound derivative. :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 01:12:19 PM
nah, they're tasteful references...and the enemies have their own behaviors in Bayonetta.  for one thing, the characters I'm mentioning are like "oh fuck" bosses in DMC and NG, but they're regular enemies here. :lol

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 03, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
They are fucking hard, though they attack a lot, so it's easy to get witch time.  the basic PKP combo decimates them pretty fast...you won't get a good grade for the fight, but you'll survive. 

I think my favorite enemies are the chicks who are like Nicchae and Ishtaros from NG.  It's cool that there are so many references to past action games!   I hope this sells well so we get a sequel.   

On hard you will sometimes fight
spoiler (click to show/hide)
a trio of similar enemies,much more deadlier and no witch time
[close]
...a real suicide mission


Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 03, 2010, 02:03:13 PM
$10 gift card if you buy Bayonetta at TRU
IN DERE
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 03, 2010, 03:23:43 PM
Don't live near no TRU :/

TWO DAYS
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 03, 2010, 03:25:05 PM
You get 150 Reward Zone points ($5 GC) if you buy Bayonetta at Best Buy.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 07:57:51 PM
Gameplay: 10/10

story: 0/10 


more cutscenes than MGS4 in the end, just skip them all.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 08:03:23 PM
The cut scenes are hilarious.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 03, 2010, 08:04:28 PM
Yeah I dunno why you'd skip. This... isnt Metal Bore
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 08:06:20 PM
from the gaf thread

(http://imagehosting.jumbee.net/show/image/43e_bayomannekepis.jpg)

can you spot what is wrong with this picture?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 03, 2010, 08:08:34 PM
Yeah, the gaffer who posted that is a disgusting Ntard. Bleagh.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 03, 2010, 08:27:32 PM
I got this coming release day Amazon. Wake up, jerk off in the shower, and open my package waiting for me.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 08:28:20 PM
tmi

TMI
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on January 03, 2010, 08:28:38 PM
Gonna jerk off again when you are playing the game? :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 08:29:16 PM
i definitely wouldnt put it past him
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 03, 2010, 08:29:45 PM
Gonna jerk off again when you are playing the game? :o

Nah, not really into her...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 03, 2010, 08:30:16 PM
[youtube=560,345]ytxmtc0ZixY[/youtube]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on January 03, 2010, 08:30:37 PM
Gonna jerk off again when you are playing the game? :o

Nah, not really into her...

but but but chicks with glasses. :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 08:37:52 PM
The cut scenes are hilarious.

Most of the stuff at the end is all in serious-mode, but MGS4 this is not.  Stop giving people the wrong idea, Kranz.   :yuck
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 08:39:07 PM
see this is why i hate reading threads before i play a game

i dont care about your killjoy protip thanks but no thanks
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 08:48:22 PM
see this is why i hate reading threads before i play a game

i dont care about your killjoy protip thanks but no thanks

 ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 03, 2010, 08:48:42 PM
from the gaf thread

(http://imagehosting.jumbee.net/show/image/43e_bayomannekepis.jpg)

can you spot what is wrong with this picture?

Who puts little knick-knacks in front of their TV like that? :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 08:50:29 PM
Who puts little knick-knacks in front of their TV like that? :lol

Seems like it would be too distracting.  Even in my nerd room, I do not put shit in front of or around the TV.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 08:51:56 PM
fucking miserable shutin losers that never have anybody over

thats who
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 08:53:05 PM
fucking miserable shutin losers that never have anybody over

thats who

I'm wondering about your previous post! 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 09:13:48 PM
 :wtf
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 10:32:10 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 10:39:01 PM
i wasnt talking about owning dolls and collectable childrens toys, if you want to own that abysmal shit and lock it up behind a steel door in the interior of your house carry on, it doesnt affect me, but when you post screens of that bullcrap littered around your television on the internet i can and will mock you
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 11:04:43 PM
No, not that!   :lol

This:
see this is why i hate reading threads before i play a game

i dont care about your killjoy protip thanks but no thanks
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 11:08:14 PM
MGS4 was an exaggeration on purpose, obviously.  Not that I care about the story, but the tone was fun at the beginning, then it goes into Japanese hyper-deep emotion super long speeches about jack shit exposition mode in those last few chapters.   Just not necessary and it's all blathering nonsense.  It just goes on forever and kinda kills the momentum, if you watch it.  I'm just trying to help people's enjoyment of the game.

But now all that's behind me and I can just play the fuck out of it because this is the best combat engine ever in an action game, especially after you get the parrying armlet  8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 11:12:27 PM
ok, so let me get this straight, you think im a fucking miserable shut in loser from not wanting to read spoilers and negative comments before i even get to play a game? how does one get that from that ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 03, 2010, 11:26:07 PM
was my tip to skip cutscenes a killjoy?  :lol 

no seriously, if I hear Fly Me to the Moon again, I'm gonna cut off my dick
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 11:26:59 PM
ok, so let me get this straight, you think im a fucking miserable shut in loser from not wanting to read spoilers and negative comments before i even get to play a game? how does one get that from that ???

I still have no idea what you're talking about.   :lol

EDIT-- This?

was my tip to skip cutscenes a killjoy? :lol 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 03, 2010, 11:33:06 PM
yeah i dont want to have other peoples negative opinions in my head when i go into something, i can be really ocd over really weird stuff so sorry

lyte edge lets call a truce on the count of confusion (i still have no idea what youre talking about either)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 03, 2010, 11:56:37 PM
Yeah, okay.  I wasn't aware we were e-fighting!   :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 04, 2010, 12:42:27 AM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 12:43:59 AM
I'm so confused.

hard mode = ffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

good stuff.  

okay, gonna chill on this game a bit.  20 hours in about 3 days...can't remember the last time I've played that much, maybe not ever? :lol

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 04, 2010, 12:50:44 AM
yeah why people do marathons of a game right when it comes out is one of those mysteries in life that i will never understand
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 12:53:32 AM
 I'm on break, love the game, and am craving escapism at the moment.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: The Sceneman on January 04, 2010, 12:55:48 AM
I dl'ed the demo, will try it soon. Its either this or Mass Effect 2 for my next game purchase
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 04, 2010, 12:56:52 AM
for the love of god get this game instead of that boring voice acting filled sequel to a boring voice acting filled game
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 04, 2010, 08:02:15 AM
"In fact, the game itself does stutter into life somewhat, interspersing short bursts of combat with overly-lengthy –though admittedly excellent – cutscenes"

TAKE THAT KRANZ!

"Bayonetta is so over the top, it's down the other side, through the earth's crust, straight through its core and out the other end. Then it blasts off into space."

 :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 10:47:13 AM
"In fact, the game itself does stutter into life somewhat, interspersing short bursts of combat with overly-lengthy –though admittedly excellent – cutscenes"

TAKE THAT KRANZ!



is that from a review by Tasteless Otaku magazine?  :greenshinobi
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 04, 2010, 10:50:10 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/video-games/6930584/Bayonetta-video-game-review.html

 :gbcry
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Eric P on January 04, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
well i'm sold
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 04, 2010, 11:06:09 AM
I didn't know the Telegraph reviewed video games, wtf?

:bow 10/10 :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 11:11:01 AM
They were talking about the beginning of the game:
Quote
In fact, the game itself does stutter into life somewhat, interspersing short bursts of combat with overly-lengthy –though admittedly excellent – cutscenes. However, it doesn’t take long for that initial layer of fat to be trimmed and the fighting system begins to reveal its majesty.

I was talking about the end. 


She looks like a Kaneko character in this pic:

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01552/bayonetta1_1552607c.jpg)
 
:heartbeat
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Jansen on January 04, 2010, 11:24:35 AM
about how long is the longest cutscene? comparisons to metal gear suckage 4 make me instantly think of unbearably long 90min cutscenes.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
I think about 15 minutes or so.  It's not so much about the length.  The frequency of them just gets higher. 


Just skip every cutscene in chapter 16 (the last chapter) and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 04, 2010, 11:28:53 AM
Longest cut scene is like four minutes I think.

EDIT: Sorry, Kranz, no way the cut scenes are 15 minutes long, aside from the ones in the epilogue/ending!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 11:30:48 AM
Longest cut scene is like four minutes I think.

EDIT: Sorry, Kranz, no way the cut scenes are 15 minutes long, aside from the ones in the epilogue/ending!


that guy's speeches in the end felt like 3 hours long
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 04, 2010, 11:33:17 AM
You're being a little hyperbolic. :lol

4 minutes, maybe 5 at most.  There are some lengthier cut scenes in the epilogue and ending, but that's the end of the game, so that's where all the loose ends get tied up.

And again, it didn't really bother me because I liked the characters and how everything was going...man, I just hope the game sells well enough to warrant a sequel.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 11:36:16 AM
me too.  it's already moved a couple hundred thousand in Japan.  if it can do the same in the US and Europe, they'll be in good shape.  That would also make it their best selling game between all Clover and Platinum releases, right?  unless VJ1 did well...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 04, 2010, 11:38:07 AM
Game deserves to sell at least a million worldwide, IMO.  It's so good.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 04, 2010, 06:39:17 PM
The latest Entertainment Weekly has Bayonetta listed in their top 10 "must" list. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 04, 2010, 07:18:54 PM
Awesome.  It's not on their website, though.  Any link to scans? :)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Rman on January 04, 2010, 07:33:09 PM
I paid this off at GS.  Picking it up tomorrow. :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 04, 2010, 11:05:38 PM
People are always in agreement about video game stories sucking and being completely devoid of artistic value (no need to post, Mr. "but what about SOTC and ICO?" guy) then when I actually call some games to task, obvious offenders like Bayonetta, I get jumped on by like 100 people about how I'm wrong. 

"video game stories always suck, they should hire some actual writers."
"I know man."
"I mean, look at how bad MGS4 is"
"LOL NO.  That story was awosum!"
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 04, 2010, 11:12:43 PM
People are always in agreement about video game stories sucking and being completely devoid of artistic value (no need to post, Mr. "but what about SOTC and ICO?" guy) then when I actually call some games to task, obvious offenders like Bayonetta, I get jumped on by like 100 people about how I'm wrong. 

"video game stories always suck, they should hire some actual writers."
"I know man."
"I mean, look at how bad MGS4 is"
"LOL NO.  That story was awosum!"

Metal Gear 4 is garbage, I didnt read this
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 05, 2010, 10:49:10 AM
 :omg
I just defeated
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jeanne(last fight with her)
[close]
,no accessories,no items,just me and that
spoiler (click to show/hide)
bitch
[close]
It was beyond amazing,the amount of evading,attacking,running,hitting the right qte was simply insane.

Near the end,i have lost the feel of my hands...so much pain...it was literally,either me or you

   
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 05, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
TRU isn't getting it in until the afternoon. I couldn't wait that long, so I just bought it from Gamestop. :D
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 05, 2010, 10:58:04 AM
It was beyond amazing,the amount of evading,
:hyper
Quote
attacking,
:hyper :hyper
Quote
hitting the right qte
:yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 05, 2010, 11:20:15 AM
It was beyond amazing,the amount of evading,
:hyper
Quote
attacking,
:hyper :hyper
Quote
hitting the right qte
:yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck :yuck


Oh i didn't mention,you don't have to go into "qte mode" if you don't want to,no penalties

But there are benefits if doing it properly :)

This always stands for fighting qte...cinematic qte are easy
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 11:57:38 AM
HOLY SHIT I HAVE IT
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 05, 2010, 12:10:41 PM
OMG CAN I TALK ABOUT ICE SKATES NOW?   I don't want to ruin Drewsy's playthrough by talking about ICE SKATES or how cut scenes suck or how Bayonetta gets new weapons and fights enemies. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 05, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
A little tip,maybe somebody mentioned it earlier...

While loading,when you see Bayonetta and combo list,press "back" and you will go into practice mode...you can test combos there :D
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
I LOVE THIS GAME!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 05, 2010, 01:11:30 PM
Glad you guys are enjoying it. :rock
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 01:14:30 PM
Got a couple Pure Platinums already. Game is so cheesy weezy eezy (so far)

Also I love that theres finally exploration. This is one thing that was sorely lacking in DMC3 and 4.

Gonna play it normally, then go back and clean up the goodies.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 05, 2010, 01:15:20 PM
Got a couple Pure Platinums already. Game is so cheesy weezy eezy (so far)

The first few levels are pretty easy. The difficulty ramps up after that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 01:45:41 PM
got it 8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 05, 2010, 03:00:12 PM
This game is so sick, but I won't be playing it again until later because my family won't leave me the fuck alone. They always choose the worst time to ask me to do shit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 03:28:57 PM
this game is a lot queerer than i thought itd be, when shes in the graveyard in the white nuns suit and slices it off revealing her black costume :rofl
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 03:55:02 PM
if you keep entering and exiting the gates of hell all the items reappear every time you exit :teehee
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 03:58:58 PM
This Alfeim gate is ridiculous, lmao. "Kill an enemy using only 7 punches and 6 kicks"

edit: I'll just do these after the game
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 05, 2010, 05:14:34 PM
Haha I recently did that one, just equip the Sword and do PKP. That's a quick Wicked Weave attack. Just beat Chapter 5.

Love love love.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 05:14:43 PM
im at this metal wall i cant get through, it says to use a temporal witch power, and i keep trying combos with those fists, but it doesnt work, what am i suppossed to do?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 05, 2010, 05:17:23 PM
im at this metal wall i cant get through, it says to use a temporal witch power, and i keep trying combos with those fists, but it doesnt work, what am i suppossed to do?

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Lift one of the two statues at the entrance of that hallway/corridor and run back to that wall before the timer ends.
[close]

You should know what to do from there.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 05:17:56 PM
oh, i didnt even see that, thanks
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 05:35:14 PM
A guy on my friend list just voice chatted me about that. He was PISSED. Like "I've been doing this for 10 minutes and I cant get through!"

:lol A lot of people are gonna get turned off by a wall
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 05, 2010, 05:39:04 PM
A guy on my friend list just voice chatted me about that. He was PISSED. Like "I've been doing this for 10 minutes and I cant get through!"

:lol A lot of people are gonna get turned off by a wall
:lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
should i be saving up for bracelets or buying techniques?

i really want the heel slide
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 05, 2010, 05:53:40 PM
Buy some techniques first, then after you have the ones you want most, save up for bracelets.

In the later chapters, you start earning more halos.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 05, 2010, 07:16:01 PM
I can't believe people say Bayonetta looks like Sarah Palin

(http://www.coffeedrunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bayonetta-palin.jpg)

Palin looks like a frickin' MAN.  :yuck
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 07:42:18 PM
The dragon boss was pissing me off cause I kept getting my ass beat within the first few minutes! I got him eventually though. Love the button mashing. Feels so good.

I've been using the sword, I dont feel comfortable to even try any of the other weapons. lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 05, 2010, 07:45:12 PM
You mean in chapter 4?  That one's my least favorite of all the bosses, honestly.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 07:46:51 PM
Yeah cause hes like HURR entire floor is lava but the hourglass is way on the other side while I try to stomp you! Im like WTF, so I just cheesed it by dodging his attack then when he broke the thing I ould run directly to the hourglass.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 05, 2010, 07:48:21 PM
There's a weapon you can put on your legs that makes the lava harmless, btw.  Dunno if you have it yet.

I remember having to use the hourglass to rebuild the platform like five or six times :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 08:10:09 PM
why does it show you only need two of the green things to make a green lolipop on the ingredients list but it takes 10 to make one?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 05, 2010, 08:12:20 PM
Two sets of 5. I think they show it on the top left of the screen. Confused me at first too.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 05, 2010, 08:13:34 PM
Yeah, each color ball signifies 5 of each.  There's a legend on the top of the screen where the recipes are.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 05, 2010, 08:23:32 PM
I didn't really care for the motorcycle part, it was alright though. I need to stop for tonight, I don't want to get too far on my first day.

Further than you drewsy. :ballin
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 05, 2010, 08:24:09 PM
Some of the camera angles are some BULLSHIT. Some straight Ninja GAiden garbage
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 08:40:25 PM
Further than you drewsy. :ballin

try not to cry when you look at my profile when you wake up in the morning
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 09:11:13 PM
yeah nevermind junpeii is on chapter 8 fml
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 05, 2010, 09:30:47 PM
Jeanne's taunt move is awesome.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Eric P on January 05, 2010, 10:55:25 PM
tried the demo when it first came out but it didn't click

read everyone raving about it so i thought i'd give it another shot

i'll be buying this tomorrow before work

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 05, 2010, 11:16:36 PM
demi that was like the easiest boss fight ever

but one of the most fun bossfights too

if this is the worst then :o
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 05, 2010, 11:51:43 PM
I WANT MY FUCKING ICE SKATES. STOP HIDING SHIT SO WELL.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 06, 2010, 12:26:17 AM
Sword w/ handguns > Sword w/ shottys

I used that to whoop Mr. Dragon's ass. He wasn't so hard. 8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 12:29:07 AM
explain yourself
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 06, 2010, 12:32:49 AM
 ???

Use the handguns on your legs instead of the shotguns when using the sword. It just feels better. Easier to combo with. She busts out like three demon hair kicks at the end of some combos with this weapon set.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:01:48 AM
demi that was like the easiest boss fight ever

but one of the most fun bossfights too

if this is the worst then :o

Yes I know, but seeing as I've never fought him I didnt know how he worked so he kept grabbing me at the start, then turning the entire arena into lava so I was running around going WTF
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 02:03:53 AM
lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:12:47 AM
Also the scoring system is POOP, imo.

I've beaten every level so far without using items. Unfortunately the Leaderboards dont show that, so theres no way to really reinforce that. Pure Platinums, maybe.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 02:19:54 AM
You get points docked for using items at the end of a chapter.  There's no way to win platinum trophies if you use items during a level.  It's the same as if you get killed and use continues, so you do get penalized.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 02:22:23 AM
ive used a handful of weak yellow and green items, im still figuring out which combos can be canceled with the snap of a finger, i keep getting caught up close in the middle of something, i also keep getting stone trophies purely due to dying in qte sequences, fml

by the way, my life bar was on the second level by the middle of that shitty lava level, junpeii says this is impossible, anyone else have two bars?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:25:04 AM
I didnt have 2 levels. Still dont. Did you buy nothing but Witch Hearts? Did you buy the Life Extender from the Angel minigame prior?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:26:15 AM
You get points docked for using items at the end of a chapter.  There's no way to win platinum trophies if you use items during a level.  It's the same as if you get killed and use continues, so you do get penalized.

Well, I still think its messed.

I played Chapter 2 the first time, and I fucked up the train achievement (oops). So I play the level, get an overall Bronze. Ok, I'll replay it.

Finish the 2nd go, and I wind up with a Silver. Yay! But for some reason I had a worse combo and time score, so it was actually worse. Why is this?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 02:26:55 AM
i only bought one witch heart, and that was after i had the beginning of a second bar
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 02:30:03 AM
You get points docked for using items at the end of a chapter.  There's no way to win platinum trophies if you use items during a level.  It's the same as if you get killed and use continues, so you do get penalized.

Well, I still think its messed.

I played Chapter 2 the first time, and I fucked up the train achievement (oops). So I play the level, get an overall Bronze. Ok, I'll replay it.

Finish the 2nd go, and I wind up with a Silver. Yay! But for some reason I had a worse combo and time score, so it was actually worse. Why is this?

Not sure. Did you get killed the first time?  Did you get hit a lot the first time?  I think that affects your trophies as well.

As I understand, the main factors you get scored on are:

- Combos
- Time
- Damage taken
- Items/continues used
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 02:31:20 AM
i only bought one witch heart, and that was after i had the beginning of a second bar

Maybe you found witch heart pieces in the stages prior?  I think if you do all the Alfheim challenges, you should have enough pieces to have the beginning of a second bar by chapter 2.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:33:21 AM
I just dont see any importance of not using items, like DMC4 did (definitely not like NG2, which I appreciated)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 02:35:01 AM
Whenever I used items on a stage, the best I'd ever get was a bronze trophy, and usually a stone one so I had to replay it. :/
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:36:06 AM
You can still get Bronze even if you're one of the top players on the Leaderboard, really. Its just a bungled system I think.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 02:39:50 AM
Maybe you found witch heart pieces in the stages prior?  I think if you do all the Alfheim challenges, you should have enough pieces to have the beginning of a second bar by chapter 2.

the only limited move special stage ive done was the one at the bottom of the spiral stair with the wind things on it, and it was the first one i found

of course i found witch heart pieces in the stages prior, i explore EVERYWHERE, im just surprised not everyone has two bars, especially people farther along than me, i was surprised when i got it too, seemed a bit early
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 06, 2010, 02:56:57 AM
You can still get Bronze even if you're one of the top players on the Leaderboard, really. Its just a bungled system I think.


it's because leaderboards go by either time or combo score exclusively, not by medal. The in-game scoring doesn't translate to ranking more than one person because it forgives you if you screw up one variable, but do well in another.  They probably found it difficult to come up with some kind of breakdown of all variables (combo, time, item, death) that translates to an accurate rank among all the players.  They'd have to quantify the importance of each variable then combine them all into one score, but doing that opens it up to serious exploitation. 

For one thing, you can only do really well on combo points if you don't go for speed and vice versa.  A really good player who got an impressive amount of points for a minimum amount of time won't be recognized on an "overall score" board...they'd be towards the middle. and what if they use an item or die, but still kicked ass anyway?  So the scoreboards are more for making yourself deliberately go for high combo score or low time in a chapter, rather than just playing well like normal. 

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 03:13:41 AM
so doing no hurts wont factor into the overall leaderboard?

smh
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 06, 2010, 03:19:48 AM
there is no overall leaderboard...there's a combo score one and a time one only. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 03:23:36 AM
Crap scoring. DMC4 > Bayonneta
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 06, 2010, 03:25:57 AM
lazy ass statisticians 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 04:51:14 AM
You have to replay the entire chapter.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 04:51:41 AM
You can exit the chapter immediately after completing the alfheim though
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 04:52:22 AM
Yeah, the game saves automatically after you complete the Alfheim.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 06, 2010, 09:22:03 AM
Just finished this. Pretty great game overall. It's nice to finally have another action game that can hang with NG and DMC (even if it's derivative of DMC). Of course there was still plenty of stuff I didn't like:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
motorcycle and missile surfing missions are garbage, turret section to kill a boss is garbage, QTE's are garbage, button mashing for climax moves is garbage, escorting little girls is garbage, vsync and framerate issues
[close]
The scoring system is a nice concept but it's easily abusable just from taking a look at the leaderboards (9999999 scores everywhere). I think I know how they're pulling off scores like that, so hopefully Platinum will issue a patch to fix it and wipe the leaderboards afterward. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Now to go collect the rest of the stuff I missed and then on to Hard mode.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: chronovore on January 06, 2010, 09:46:07 AM
from the gaf thread

(http://imagehosting.jumbee.net/show/image/43e_bayomannekepis.jpg)

can you spot what is wrong with this picture?

The idiot used a flash to take a picture of something which is, itself, a light source?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 11:35:07 AM
Just finished this. Pretty great game overall. It's nice to finally have another action game that can hang with NG and DMC (even if it's derivative of DMC). Of course there was still plenty of stuff I didn't like:
spoiler (click to show/hide)
motorcycle and missile surfing missions are garbage, turret section to kill a boss is garbage, QTE's are garbage, button mashing for climax moves is garbage, escorting little girls is garbage, vsync and framerate issues
[close]
The scoring system is a nice concept but it's easily abusable just from taking a look at the leaderboards (9999999 scores everywhere). I think I know how they're pulling off scores like that, so hopefully Platinum will issue a patch to fix it and wipe the leaderboards afterward. Shouldn't be too hard to fix.

Now to go collect the rest of the stuff I missed and then on to Hard mode.

Like I said. Great game, but It cant hang with DMC4.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 06, 2010, 11:46:26 AM
Welcome to my fantasy zone indeed.

and lol demi.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 06, 2010, 11:57:04 AM
I'm having an awfully hard time getting good scores. You have to constantly change what you're doing, the game makes me feel slow.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Who cares, it doesnt matter what score you get. You are graded on Time and Combo. Have fun with your top score with a Stone statue.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 11:59:27 AM
the scoring system might be better in dmc4, but theres no way you can say that the actual game is better
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Diunx on January 06, 2010, 12:31:55 PM
How weird is it to play this game with 3 other dudes in the room? my friend ordered the game but I'm afraid of the cheeseburger character giving me an erection in front of my mates? :shh
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 12:33:48 PM
How weird is it to play this game with 3 other dudes in the room? my friend ordered the game but I'm afraid of the cheeseburger character giving me an erection in front of my mates? :shh

From what I've read, the sexually awkward are usually the ones who are offended by the game. Also, married couples whose wife have them by a leash.

If anything it's more like Kamiya's fanwank. Theres references to references and nothing but.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 12:48:23 PM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/vetcw2.jpg)

 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 06, 2010, 01:02:29 PM
How weird is it to play this game with 3 other dudes in the room? my friend ordered the game but I'm afraid of the cheeseburger character giving me an erection in front of my mates? :shh

From what I've read, the sexually awkward are usually the ones who are offended by the game. Also, married couples whose wife have them by a leash.

If anything it's more like Kamiya's fanwank. Theres references to references and nothing but.

Yeah, it's pretty tame. The only time my wife made fun of me was when was walked into the room during the end credits,
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Bayonetta's dance music video, which was pretty stupid.
[close]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 01:11:04 PM
so i just continued my game from last night, im at the start of chapter 6, and my second bar of life is gone WTF FML
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 06, 2010, 01:26:00 PM
 :lol

[youtube=560,345]Gn8-by_PM1o[/youtube]

This is stuck my head. Awesome music for fuck awesome fight.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 01:47:44 PM
LOL whats with the midget baby? OMG
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 01:50:04 PM
yeah i just got there too :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 06, 2010, 01:50:39 PM
Cereza?

The story is pretty wtf-lol worthy, you'll see soon enough.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 01:52:32 PM
wait i just lost her
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 01:59:18 PM
Wow and its a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow ESCORT LEVEL

FAIL

At least she regenerates her health
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 01:59:43 PM
i never had a prob with her, she goes into a bubble when theres enemies around

stilleto is this games version of the flying swallow (the technique not the wicked weave)

its so easy to abuse
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 06, 2010, 02:02:01 PM
i never had a prob with her, she goes into a bubble when theres enemies around

The enemies can pop the bubble and it's game over, though. It has a life bar of it's own.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 02:05:57 PM
i must be too fast, never had a problem with that either :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 06, 2010, 02:07:44 PM
i must be too fast, never had a problem with that either :smug

I never had a problem with it, but I figure it will actually pop if you dawdle.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:09:25 PM
It doesnt look like she affects the score at least. I feel rushed when I have to escort and fight enemies.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 06, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
Joy's introduction :lol

I got the
spoiler (click to show/hide)
ice skates
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but I'm not using them until after this boss fight.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 02:48:56 PM
Wind boss definitely not as cool as the first.

Also the shapeshifting moves are -annoying-
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 06, 2010, 02:58:49 PM
Also the shapeshifting moves are -annoying-
Only because they don't allow you to keep mashing the dodge button. I can deal with that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 02:59:13 PM
id really like to know what happened to my lifebar
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 03:07:52 PM
The motorcycle music is awesome
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 06, 2010, 03:13:16 PM
id really like to know what happened to my lifebar

Did you by any chance buy something from Angel Attack minigame?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 03:14:44 PM
of course, every time i play it, i dont think theres anything that would LOWER your lifebar though, which is what happened to me

edit: in fact i remember exactly what i bought this morning, which was between the chapters where it happened, i bought one of those talisman of rebirth shot things that raise you from the dead automatically because i did really well in the mini game and it was the most expensive thing there
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
[youtube=560,345]Rb-xNUPFq2s[/youtube]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 06, 2010, 03:30:28 PM
It doesnt look like she affects the score at least. I feel rushed when I have to escort and fight enemies.

There's no real problem with "escorting" her. 
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Most of the time Cereza follows you, she's pretty much invincible.  There's one part I remember where you need to protect her, but she has a shield around her that takes a while for the enemies to penetrate.  And I think it's here that you can get an achievement if you don't allow the enemies to ever get to her.  It's not hard.
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Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 03:31:24 PM
id really like a reply on this maxy, did something i bought fuck me or not?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 06, 2010, 03:32:44 PM
of course, every time i play it, i dont think theres anything that would LOWER your lifebar though, which is what happened to me

edit: in fact i remember exactly what i bought this morning, which was between the chapters where it happened, i bought one of those talisman of rebirth shot things that raise you from the dead automatically because i did really well in the mini game and it was the most expensive thing there

There is a heart,purple i think,that dramatically increases your health and it is active during the next chapter only.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 03:37:27 PM
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i thought it meant that it only activates by the next chapter and is like a normal witch heart afterwards
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 03:46:04 PM
It doesnt look like she affects the score at least. I feel rushed when I have to escort and fight enemies.

There's no real problem with "escorting" her. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Most of the time Cereza follows you, she's pretty much invincible.  There's one part I remember where you need to protect her, but she has a shield around her that takes a while for the enemies to penetrate.  And I think it's here that you can get an achievement if you don't allow the enemies to ever get to her.  It's not hard.
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It goes without saying but HERP A FUCKING DERP you dont think I know this? Jesus you beat it on Normal and you think you're tough shit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 06, 2010, 04:09:57 PM
It doesnt look like she affects the score at least. I feel rushed when I have to escort and fight enemies.

There's no real problem with "escorting" her. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Most of the time Cereza follows you, she's pretty much invincible.  There's one part I remember where you need to protect her, but she has a shield around her that takes a while for the enemies to penetrate.  And I think it's here that you can get an achievement if you don't allow the enemies to ever get to her.  It's not hard.
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It goes without saying but HERP A FUCKING DERP you dont think I know this? Jesus you beat it on Normal and you think you're tough shit.

well then stop bitching about every little thing like it's the end of the world and there'll be no need to correct you :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 06, 2010, 05:08:38 PM
It doesnt look like she affects the score at least. I feel rushed when I have to escort and fight enemies.

There's no real problem with "escorting" her. 
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Most of the time Cereza follows you, she's pretty much invincible.  There's one part I remember where you need to protect her, but she has a shield around her that takes a while for the enemies to penetrate.  And I think it's here that you can get an achievement if you don't allow the enemies to ever get to her.  It's not hard.
[close]

It goes without saying but HERP A FUCKING DERP you dont think I know this? Jesus you beat it on Normal and you think you're tough shit.

well then stop bitching about every little thing like it's the end of the world and there'll be no need to correct you :smug

:drake
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Jansen on January 06, 2010, 08:57:48 PM
just got the game this morning and i've already played it for 8 hours. the first time i chainsawed an angel in half was glorious.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 08:58:50 PM
The only good equippable weapon are the staffs the angels drop, so you can do the stripper pole move. Huge AOE damage. Everything else feels clunky and slow.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 06, 2010, 09:04:32 PM
Joy's introduction :lol


decided to check this out and holy shit  :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 06, 2010, 09:05:16 PM
The only good equippable weapon are the staffs the angels drop, so you can do the stripper pole move. Huge AOE damage. Everything else feels clunky and slow.
Nah, the bow and arrow weapon is cool too. I only got it twice so far. :'(

I'm up to chapter 12 now. How many chapters are there?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 09:05:41 PM
16 Chapters
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 06, 2010, 09:08:58 PM
Oh ok. I might beat it tonight.

What do the perfumes in Rodin's store do? Also, are the weapons on sale better than the ones you originally have?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 09:09:07 PM
The only good equippable weapon are the staffs the angels drop, so you can do the stripper pole move. Huge AOE damage. Everything else feels clunky and slow.
Nah, the bow and arrow weapon is cool too. I only got it twice so far. :'(

I'm up to chapter 12 now. How many chapters are there?

I like the horn that blows fireballs and the chainsaw best.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 09:09:37 PM
Oh ok. I might beat it tonight.

What do the perfumes in Rodin's store do? Also, are the weapons on sale better than the ones you originally have?

The perfumes are costume changes depending on what weapon you've got equipped.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 09:23:52 PM
The perfumes are costume changes depending on what weapon you've got equipped.

;bow

edit: fml
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 06, 2010, 10:16:30 PM
Chapter 15 has a grace and glory that witch time doesn't work on. Fuck.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 06, 2010, 10:40:49 PM
Yuppppp.  I HATE those.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Purple Filth on January 06, 2010, 10:48:11 PM
This is old and possibly already posted in the thread but this was a very interesting read.

http://blogs.ign.com/SEGA_Bayonetta/2009/12/11/133918/

strive forth gamers

(http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/105/1054545/bayonetta-20091211020434576.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 10:53:16 PM
Quote
(Actually, I restarted more times than I can count...)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 06, 2010, 11:12:45 PM
i always wondered what that dodge offset cheev you guys all have is about
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 06, 2010, 11:52:48 PM
Grace and Glory arent really a big deal. Just stand back and pellet them with the gun and they'll come to you either by jumping or uppercut. I got a PP from them in Ch 5. On the plus, apparently the Durgas are one of the most powerful weapons in the game.

Frosts from DMC4 are more scary
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 12:10:20 AM
the claw guys are just like the frosts from dmc4, both shoot lightning at you and are fast and i hate them
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 07, 2010, 01:33:18 AM
The hold-kick attack with the Durgas is ridiculously overpowered. Demolishes everything easily. But other than the hold attacks and a few minor differences, the feet weapons just feel like pallet swaps so far.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 02:06:41 AM
I love instant death bits that arent related to QTEs

Why of course I wasnt enjoying my great Platinum run... I dont mind if you ruin it at all
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 02:22:41 AM
just figured out that swirling the sticks and pressing the button theyre assigned to changes the durgas :dur
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 02:32:45 AM
jesus christ this wicked weave alfheim is impossible, i got through like 6 waves of enemies and still no dice
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 02:59:32 AM
I only found 3 Alfheim challenges so far and I was only able to do 2 of them. :'(

i always wondered what that dodge offset cheev you guys all have is about
Are you on my friends list? I got that achievement but I had no idea how until now.

just figured out that swirling the sticks and pressing the button theyre assigned to changes the durgas :dur
:lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 03:22:20 AM
Are you on my friends list? I got that achievement but I had no idea how until now.

i was about to say yes but then i realized you arent bildi

i figured most people got it by way of mashing
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 07, 2010, 08:14:20 AM
Beat it late last night, loved it to bits. I actually liked the overall story at the end and those cut scenes weren't that long at all, to be honest I never felt any of the cut scenes to be rather long. Everyone should read the journals, they spread light many things not explained during the game.

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 07, 2010, 11:19:18 AM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4253592011_ccf3ca301e_b.jpg)

 :bow Bayonetta  :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Just beat it.  8)

Are there a bunch of hidden areas or fights in this game? Or maybe some stuff are only available on harder difficulties? I didn't get any new weapons after the skates. :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 12:49:21 PM
Did you get the Rocket Launcher tonfas?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 12:50:52 PM
The Temperentia fight could be considered the final boss fight of any game ever made before Bayonetta.  Here it's just a boss fight.

Eh, just reminded me of the Savior fight with Dante
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 12:59:55 PM
Did you get the Rocket Launcher tonfas?
No and I wanted those more than anything.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 01:01:14 PM
Then you're missing an LP cause theres an achievement for that
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 01:05:20 PM
Which chapter?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 07, 2010, 01:10:57 PM
Kilgore is in Chapter 9. I updated the first post with all the LP locations.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 07, 2010, 01:39:00 PM
Those medals are either Alfheims or fights you missed. The Alfheims are very well hidden I would not bother with them first time through.

You just have to go back replay the chapter.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2010, 01:49:37 PM
How would i miss fights? :'(

Backtracking will occasionally open up new fights.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 02:35:51 PM
Did you get the Rocket Launcher tonfas?

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 07, 2010, 03:00:55 PM
Did you get the Rocket Launcher tonfas?

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

this is probably the lamest complaint about spoilers since people got mad about knowing about Luigi in Super Mario Galaxy. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 03:13:46 PM
Going for PP in this game is pure masochism

Imagine doing a perfect run then getting hit once at the end

I would probably go through 7 TVs just in one level

Noooo thanks. 1000 for me then I'm gone
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: magus on January 07, 2010, 03:19:57 PM
ok let me ruin the game for all of you evilbore!
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxE6H83Xw0s&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
spoiler (click to show/hide)
well everyone except demi
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Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 03:25:59 PM
doing no hurt runs in ninja gaiden was somehwhat of a pastime for me, so i guess im a masochist :smug
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 04:09:49 PM
MY HAIR IS A DEMON :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 07:04:33 PM
My hated enemies:

The boats - usually off in BFE launching rockets and lasers at you, requiring you to jump over and beat it up in close range, meaning if you fall you lose health i mean wtf

The stingrays - Comes in groups, launches orbs at you, tough to hit because aerial combat isnt bayonettas strong suit, dodging in mid air usually results in the shitty Crow form which i really wish i didnt buy
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 07, 2010, 07:10:55 PM
I've never fallen while fighting a boat.

You can deactivate techniques if you don't like them, including the crow form.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 07:11:29 PM
HOW, OH MY GOD I HATE IT SO MUCH
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 07:12:29 PM
Those are my two most hated also, especially those fucking stingrays.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 07, 2010, 07:13:32 PM
HOW, OH MY GOD I HATE IT SO MUCH

Go into the menu in the part where your techniques are.  You can turn them "on" or "off" at any time.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 07, 2010, 07:14:43 PM
I only used the crow form for some witch's tombs that are unreachable otherwise, and for a particular boss that likes to destroy the platforms you're standing on.  It's otherwise not that useful.  Jaguar form is way more awesome.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 07:19:35 PM
Jaguar is good cause you can use that swipe attack when you run back to them. Bat is useful if you spam RT and it sometimes works, saves a hit. Crow... absolutely NOT useful
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ichirou on January 07, 2010, 07:21:50 PM
You need it for some witch tomb locations, I think that's the only reason to buy it.  Well, that and the achievement for buying all techniques.

EDIT: There's also an Alfheim challenge where you have to stay in the air for twenty seconds.  It's beyond easy if you have the crow form.  Otherwise you have to jump on decorations and it can be kind of tricky.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 07:34:07 PM
The water fight... easily the best one. But I kept getting eaten near the end and im like WELL WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO

Fuckin got a Stone in damage because of it. Platinums on Combo and Time too
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 07:42:01 PM
dodge demi DODGE
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 07:42:22 PM
i was spammin RT!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 07:48:22 PM
youre talking about the part where he dives down then comes back up where you are right? just surf around after he dives then spam RT when you see the vortex that signifies that he is about to surface

the attack i had trouble with was when he falls down and punches the water, the trick there is to spam dodge to the right and youll just6 clear him by the time he lands
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 08:07:03 PM
No, the very end with the giant vortex you're in
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Ganhyun on January 07, 2010, 08:40:12 PM
just got this today. gonna play it some tonight and this weekend.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
How the fuck do you dodge that cannon attack on Chapter 15? I tried

- dodging
- running away from him, behind a wall

I still get hit. Am I missing something painfully obvious?

And I fucking died on Jeanne with a QTE. No way I'm replaying that boring, horribly controlled, hard to see, shooting part just to reach that again. Shits bonkers.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 08:57:55 PM
reading the gaf thread for this is hilarious, sfags typing books explaining why their version isnt broken, i dont think they know what a joke is
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2010, 09:05:18 PM
reading the gaf thread for this is hilarious, sfags typing books explaining why their version isnt broken, i dont think they know what a joke is

Those freaks drive me insane, and I'm a PS3-only owner.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 10:30:07 PM
FUCK

THIS

GAME


A game over at the VERY END because I didnt hit the sun? REALLY? REALLY?

You better believe I am FUMING at what I just experienced

Holy mother of God I want to break something
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Mr. Gundam on January 07, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
:lol

That happened to me, too. I didn't catch on that I was in control until I hit the first planet and got the game over screen.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 07, 2010, 10:32:44 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 11:12:48 PM
:lol

That happened to me, too. I didn't catch on that I was in control until I hit the first planet and got the game over screen.
I knew I was in control, but for some reason I thought you had to destroy all the planets. :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 07, 2010, 11:22:47 PM
 :lol Same here. Hard is very very hard.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 11:29:49 PM
Holy shit, whats with this requirement stuff? 3 Torture Attacks in the Prologue? Jesus christ this game

Think I'll just grind Balder and get everything purchased / achievement cleanup first
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 07, 2010, 11:36:29 PM
Requirements for what?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 07, 2010, 11:40:46 PM
To beat the level, on the 2nd verse of Prologue it wouldnt let me win unless I did 3 Torture Attacks
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 08, 2010, 12:25:15 AM
Just tried it. After getting my ass kicked 3 times in a row, my 360 froze. :-\
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 12:42:43 AM
Or I could just chew up some magic lolipops and do TAs that way. Thanks for your shitty suggestion though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 01:11:58 AM
fuck i keep getting pulled into this damn vortex FUCK
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 01:23:03 AM
[youtube=560,345]zRmYETHLvos[/youtube]

Well this shouldnt take long
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 08, 2010, 01:36:01 AM
fuck i keep getting pulled into this damn vortex FUCK
beast form, noob
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 01:37:10 AM
beat it 8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 08, 2010, 01:40:46 AM
Ji3eezy

Add me, not enough people on my leaderboard for this game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 01:43:59 AM
BEST

CREDITS

EVER
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on January 08, 2010, 02:50:26 AM
How the fuck do you dodge that cannon attack on Chapter 15? I tried

- dodging
- running away from him, behind a wall

I still get hit. Am I missing something painfully obvious?

And I fucking died on Jeanne with a QTE. No way I'm replaying that boring, horribly controlled, hard to see, shooting part just to reach that again. Shits bonkers.
FUCK

THIS

GAME


A game over at the VERY END because I didnt hit the sun? REALLY? REALLY?

You better believe I am FUMING at what I just experienced

Holy mother of God I want to break something
Holy shit, whats with this requirement stuff? 3 Torture Attacks in the Prologue? Jesus christ this game

Think I'll just grind Balder and get everything purchased / achievement cleanup first
glad i didn't buy this game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 03:13:49 AM
this is the best action game since ngb, id put it right next to it, actually, how does it feel to be missing out?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on January 08, 2010, 03:15:54 AM
feels great just like my master ninja run man.

how does that make you feel?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 04:22:10 AM
okay, does anyone know how the hell you can complete Alfheim #10 (chapter 5) on Hard? You have to stay in the air for 30 seconds, but the devil bringer whip doesn't work on the enemies you fight (the fire/electric dogs). I must have just killed over 10 dogs in the last 2 minutes of the challenge and they just keep spawning over and over. Maybe I'm just not killing them fast enough to get to another wave of enemies, but I doubt that...

Don't know what I should be doing to juggle these things or whatever.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 04:42:33 AM
Did the prologue and blazed chapter 1.

The Durgas kick move (hold B) is so broken... lmao. Plus I'm using the Rosary that makes orbs when you dodge, combined with the "witch time when hit".

Penny Arcade is having a contest where the first 500 people to email a photo of them w/ gamertag showing they beat the game on Hard gets a custom Bayonetta t-shirt (dont think its official Capcom though).
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 05:16:34 AM
I think you're supposed to jump on this dog's head and then parry his jump attack for 30 seconds... problem with that is the camera is GARBAGE and the dog will random jump 30 feet away from you to god knows where.

There's way too much trash littered throughout the game like that and it really brings it down. Everything about the combat is superb... it's just everything else that is abysmal.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 08, 2010, 05:18:53 AM
The shirt is nothing special. I'll try anyway, but I'm guessing that all the importers won't give me a chance to even attempt this.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 05:19:35 AM
Couldnt you just use Crow?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 05:21:53 AM
Also why are you doing Alfheims on hard? Unless you're going for a good score theres no point. Saves me a whole lot of trouble, since the Alfheims are usually the most difficult things in the game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 05:27:22 AM
You can  use the crow but it runs out after like 10 seconds or so.

I figured I'd do the Alfheims and finish collecting the rest of the stuff I missed on hard but this challenge is just distinguished mentally-challenged. Not gonna waste my time with it anymore, I'll come back later.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 05:29:34 AM
That is what I'm doing but not with the Alfheims, just the Tombs and any hidden stuff I missed.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 06:19:23 AM
Chapter 8 is perhaps the worst level I've ever seen in an action game.

HEY LET'S FIGHT 3 BLITZ'S THAT DISABLE WITCH TIME WHILE HAVING CARS SMASH YOU FROM OFF SCREEN LOL!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on January 08, 2010, 07:15:16 AM
no one listened tee hee
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 08, 2010, 08:46:42 AM
UK launch trailer, :heartbeat Bayonetta :heartbeat
http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/bayonettas-uk-launch-trailer?size=med (http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/bayonettas-uk-launch-trailer?size=med)

Had to take a rest after finishing it on hard,no accessories used and now i am ready for Climax mode.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2010, 12:08:28 PM
Chapter 8 is perhaps the worst level I've ever seen in an action game.

HEY LET'S FIGHT 3 BLITZ'S THAT DISABLE WITCH TIME WHILE HAVING CARS SMASH YOU FROM OFF SCREEN LOL!


learn to dodge/dodge offset/use bat form/parry etc. etc. etc. 

but I'm sure off screen projectiles aren't a problem for an NG2 veteran  8)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 08, 2010, 12:22:58 PM
Jeanne on hard is so difficult. It's like a completely different fight. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 12:24:17 PM
If an IS gets stuck in you from off screen in NG2 you can easily dodge it with the invincible frames with the dash or any number of ways. That section is more like playing the street stage in DoA4 with the camera spinning around so you can't see where the cars are coming from. It's not hard (it's actually a pretty easy game), it's just incredibly bad.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 12:49:43 PM
The weapon you get for beating hard is disappointing.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yet another pallet swap :-\ at least it has lasers this time
[close]

And protip: RT + Back during cutscenes to skip them quickly. Wish I knew this before!

edit: It even skips the startup to that stupid minigame between chapters!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2010, 12:52:01 PM
If an IS gets stuck in you from off screen in NG2 you can easily dodge it with the invincible frames with the dash or any number of ways. That section is more like playing the street stage in DoA4 with the camera spinning around so you can't see where the cars are coming from. It's not hard (it's actually a pretty easy game), it's just incredibly bad.


I just gave you 10 ways to dodge offscreen stuff in this game :rofl   

NG2 = fair and balanced

Bayonetta = broken/incredibly bad

:rofl


this thread sucks
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 01:12:20 PM
If an IS gets stuck in you from off screen in NG2 you can easily dodge it with the invincible frames with the dash or any number of ways. That section is more like playing the street stage in DoA4 with the camera spinning around so you can't see where the cars are coming from. It's not hard (it's actually a pretty easy game), it's just incredibly bad.


I just gave you 10 ways to dodge offscreen stuff in this game :rofl   

NG2 = fair and balanced

Bayonetta = broken/incredibly bad

:rofl


this thread sucks

have you even played chapter 8 on hard?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on January 08, 2010, 01:15:55 PM
kamiyafags are in full force i see.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 08, 2010, 01:26:30 PM
kamiyafags are in full force i see.

I'm very disappointed in you, MCD.   :-\
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on January 08, 2010, 01:27:47 PM
i'm just happy trolling, lyte edge-sama.

i am buying this, just need time.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: maxy on January 08, 2010, 01:29:08 PM
kamiyafags are in full force i see.
Pussy...
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: MCD on January 08, 2010, 01:37:00 PM
all i see is your ass here.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: archie4208 on January 08, 2010, 02:35:05 PM
The Good:

Incredible combat system.

The bad:

Motorcycle and missle riding stages.

The ugly:

Technical issues abound.  If the 360 version is this bad, I'd hate to see the PS3 one. :yuck
QTEs.  So fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.  :maf

Amazing game.  Kamiya does it again.  Every other action game annihilated.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 02:49:11 PM
You beat Hard already? Yeesh that was quick.

I've just been buying the blue heart every time in Angel Attack. Good tip on the cutscene skip, god damn I hated pressing start.

I agree that it isn't very hard. The accessories basically negate everything it throws at you.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 08, 2010, 03:05:21 PM
First time through, I played the game sans-accessories and used all the halos towards moves and weapons.  Those rings make it that much easier, huh?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 03:06:14 PM
I beat it the first time using just sword and guns, no accessories. The accessories help but the only ones you really want are Selene's Light and Evil Rosary.

Moon of Maha Kala is just DMC4's Royal Guard and I could never use that any good.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Beezy on January 08, 2010, 03:08:17 PM
The motorcycle stage is not bad, it's just too long. I love the missile stage though, probably because I played Space Harrier for the first time last month.

After that cheesy fight in the prologue, hard is fun as hell. Much better than normal the tutorial.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 08, 2010, 03:10:12 PM
I beat it the first time using just sword and guns, no accessories. The accessories help but the only ones you really want are Selene's Light and Evil Rosary.

Moon of Maha Kala is just DMC4's Royal Guard and I could never use that any good.

The sword was what I used 99% of the time.  So much so that going back and using anything else feels weird. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: bork on January 08, 2010, 03:11:39 PM
The motorcycle stage is not bad, it's just too long. I love the missile stage though, probably because I played Space Harrier for the first time last month.

I feel the same way.  Both of those vehicle stages controlled well, so other than length I don't see anything to complain about.  Fun little breaks from the fighting action.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 08, 2010, 03:19:54 PM
So I just unlocked

Hidden for Drewsy.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Jeanne. There's two ways to but I decided for the easy way, spend a million halos in Chapter 2. The normal way is too taxing for me. You can keep your halos if after you unlock her quit to chapter select, then quit to title screen. Start a new game with Jeanne and the save after then opening mission. Then go back to your Bayo save and load the saved file; your million halos will still be there and you will have your Jeanne save safe and sound in another slot. /copypasta
[close]

I updated the first post for the easy way. Half way with Alfheims, angel may cry  :pimp
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 03:24:22 PM
Yeah, I went through Hard pretty quick actually. The end screen said 4 hours 35 minutes I think, with 80 minutes spent on chapter 5 :lol (alfheim + afk). The Dodge Offset + Katana/Durga combo dominates everything. Went up to chapter 5 in infinite climax and I think I'm done for today. Still missed a bunch of hearts and pearls on hard though, got tired of reading guides to find all that junk.

The motorcycle and missile missions would be cool if they were like 5 times shorter. As it is they are just a chore to play through.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
haha, i tried that code cheat but I didnt know you -had- to have the halos on-hand at the time, I thought it just unlocked it for purchase at Rodin's.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 08, 2010, 03:26:18 PM
I'm having a lot of trouble getting Dodge Offset down, I know it's going to be practically a requirement for the later Jeanne fights. :/
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Beezy on January 08, 2010, 03:35:03 PM
I love knocking enemies back with Kilgore's dash attack. :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 04:14:35 PM
There's way too much trash littered throughout the game like that and it really brings it down. Everything about the combat is superb... it's just everything else that is abysmal.

Chapter 8 is perhaps the worst level I've ever seen in an action game.

HEY LET'S FIGHT 3 BLITZ'S THAT DISABLE WITCH TIME WHILE HAVING CARS SMASH YOU FROM OFF SCREEN LOL!

If an IS gets stuck in you from off screen in NG2 you can easily dodge it with the invincible frames with the dash or any number of ways. That section is more like playing the street stage in DoA4 with the camera spinning around so you can't see where the cars are coming from. It's not hard (it's actually a pretty easy game), it's just incredibly bad.

The weapon you get for beating hard is disappointing.
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Yet another pallet swap :-\ at least it has lasers this time
[close]

And protip: RT + Back during cutscenes to skip them quickly. Wish I knew this before!

edit: It even skips the startup to that stupid minigame between chapters!

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r126/Drewsy_photobucket/1189785209889.png)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 04:18:34 PM
dante sure loves pizza.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 04:42:08 PM
i think every boss does that until you finish them with a climax. could be wrong though, only let that happen a couple times just to see.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 04:51:08 PM
Wow, Fortitudo was... not that different on Hard. The only difference I saw was that he snaps at you much quicker.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2010, 05:13:56 PM
If an IS gets stuck in you from off screen in NG2 you can easily dodge it with the invincible frames with the dash or any number of ways. That section is more like playing the street stage in DoA4 with the camera spinning around so you can't see where the cars are coming from. It's not hard (it's actually a pretty easy game), it's just incredibly bad.


I just gave you 10 ways to dodge offscreen stuff in this game :rofl   

NG2 = fair and balanced

Bayonetta = broken/incredibly bad

:rofl


this thread sucks

have you even played chapter 8 on hard?


yes.  you can extended witch time them with moon of maha kala counters and pretty much decimate them in one or two witch times with that.  do lots of air combos to avoid the cars.   ???

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Post by: archie4208 on January 08, 2010, 05:18:55 PM
Hard mode is pretty easy, and I was never able to beat any DMC or NG past normal.  I'm sure Climax mode is a bitch, though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 05:56:52 PM
yes.  you can extended witch time them with moon of maha kala counters and pretty much decimate them in one or two witch times with that.  do lots of air combos to avoid the cars.   ???



and if the camera is not focused down the highway (which is very easy considering there's three blitz's and they can get behind you without much trouble) you can easily get clipped from off screen by a car. the real threat coming from the camera and the environment rather than the enemies = best action game ever, :bow kamiya-sama.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 05:57:36 PM
What is the blitz? The Grace and Glory?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 05:58:01 PM
you guys do know that you can center the camera by pushing in the right stick...right?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 06:01:02 PM
I don't know any of the enemy names beside a couple. The "blitz" is the yellow version of those red and blue claw guys. I just call them that since they're similar to the DMC4 guys.

you guys do know that you can center the camera by pushing in the right stick...right?

that wouldn't really help, unless you could set the camera in a set position. it's not really a big deal though, just one incredibly annoying section if you're trying to go for pure platinums.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 06:01:50 PM
Ohh ok, those are Gracious and Glorious - they dont allow Witch Time. I would just dodge around and use Evil Rosary to take them out.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 07:06:53 PM
I tried that Alfheim you had trouble with iconoclast... yeah, thats frustrating.

So I try it on Normal, and they give you a bunch of floating heads instead. LMAO

Fuck these things.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 07:12:40 PM
some guy on GAF said to use the RB+back+Y with the sword to launch the dog and then use the whip to keep him in the air... i already skipped over it by the time i read that so i haven't bothered trying it yet, but it doesn't seem like it'll work.

those type of challenges are just annoying, since you will need to do them EVERY TIME you do a scoring run since they count as verses in the chapter. at least DMC has the courtesy to make those strange challenges a one-off to get a health piece from or something. challenges like survival, kill during witch time, kill with torture attacks, etc. i'm fine with since they involve actual combat, not this stupid head-jumping nonsense.

then again the scoring system is fucked so who cares anyway
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2010, 07:52:23 PM
yes.  you can extended witch time them with moon of maha kala counters and pretty much decimate them in one or two witch times with that.  do lots of air combos to avoid the cars.   ???



and if the camera is not focused down the highway (which is very easy considering there's three blitz's and they can get behind you without much trouble) you can easily get clipped from off screen by a car. the real threat coming from the camera and the environment rather than the enemies = best action game ever, :bow kamiya-sama.

do air combos to avoid the cars.


Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 08:10:25 PM
You can get Wicked Weave Master while not in battle, lol.

Just do - P K (hold K) - immediately RT - P

With the sword it does the giant swipe, which counts as a Weave.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 08:23:07 PM
air combo them without witch time and they'll dodge away after a couple hits. if you activate witch time via parry, why would you be using air combos that don't do nearly as much damage as some basic ground combos? that is worthless advice :lol

to pure platinum the section, you stand there in the middle of road taunting until one of them gets close, parry their attack and kill them during witch time. rinse and repeat for the other two, all the while hoping none of them get behind you, because if that happens cars will be flying by from behind the camera while you try and keep your combo alive and keep an eye on the two enemies. but i have a feeling you haven't PP'd it.

You can get Wicked Weave Master while not in battle, lol.

Just do - P K (hold K) - immediately RT - P

With the sword it does the giant swipe, which counts as a Weave.

the sword weave is godly. PKP + dodge offset with the katanas/durgas makes the game a cakewalk. any dodge offset with the durgas is ridiculous actually, because you can sit there charging the energy ball, and if it looks like you're about to get hit you can just dash away and finish with the weave.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2010, 08:26:27 PM
Unfortunately, it's not a parry with the moon accessory.  it's a just-defense type thing where you hit forward the second you get hit.  a regular parry won't give you witch time. 

lie about your skills some more.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 08:33:01 PM
so it's not a parry but you still press forward to parry their attack which activates witch time. gotcha.

i'm not sure what skills i've lied about ???
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 08, 2010, 08:39:57 PM
I'm starting to think Hard won't be as hard as I thought it would've been. I recently beat Chapter 5 and it wasn't that bad, even got a couple PPs. Sure I don't jinx it. And you know Grace and Glory aren't that bad once you calm the fuck down and pace/time yourself.

Not looking forward to later Jeanne fights at all.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 08, 2010, 08:40:39 PM
so it's not a parry but you still press forward to parry their attack which activates witch time. gotcha.

i'm not sure what skills i've lied about ???


all of them.  all of them. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 08:53:32 PM
I'm starting to think Hard won't be as hard as I thought it would've been. I recently beat Chapter 5 and it wasn't that bad, even got a couple PPs. Sure I don't jinx it. And you know Grace and Glory aren't that bad once you calm the fuck down and pace/time yourself.

Not looking forward to later Jeanne fights at all.

I dont think the game is very hard at all. No witch time? No big deal, just spam RT and you'll make plenty of orbs that do ton of damage anyway.

Frustrating, but not hard (difference!)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 09:00:51 PM
i strained the muscles that control thumb movement in my right hand, hasnt happened to me since ninja gaiden black, need to take a break :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 08, 2010, 09:15:50 PM
I'm starting to think Hard won't be as hard as I thought it would've been. I recently beat Chapter 5 and it wasn't that bad, even got a couple PPs. Sure I don't jinx it. And you know Grace and Glory aren't that bad once you calm the fuck down and pace/time yourself.

Not looking forward to later Jeanne fights at all.

I dont think the game is very hard at all. No witch time? No big deal, just spam RT and you'll make plenty of orbs that do ton of damage anyway.

Frustrating, but not hard (difference!)

is that accessory really that good? i still haven't even bought it. i just roll with the moon and taunt-heal item equipped so i don't have to use items. guess i'll try it next time i play, i was saving up for the one that recovers magic over time (cost 500k i think).

I'm on the stage where you fight a bunch of enemies on moving vehicles. I slaughtered them all, but now i have no idea what to do. The highway doesn't end.

is that the very start of the level? you either missed one of the horn blowers on the cars or your game glitched. should end right after you take all of them out.
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Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 09:19:53 PM
I love it, I just slice enemies up close and spam RT and orbs are popping off everywhere. I've never tried the moon yet, I bought it though.
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Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 09:47:29 PM
These torture attack alfheims are not fun. Is there a painfully obvious method of earning magic that I'm missing?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Vizzys on January 08, 2010, 09:52:44 PM
These torture attack alfheims are not fun. Is there a painfully obvious method of earning magic that I'm missing?
use guns+breakdance a lot to build up but not kill
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Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 08, 2010, 10:13:15 PM
Equip the Star of Dineta. Taunting will raise you magic bar by one.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 10:17:40 PM
You mean one little orb, one one full bar? You can get 1 orb even if yuo dont have the Star of Dineta.

I beat it just now. Beat Temperantia too. I did the dual-durga thing for lots of Halos, got an insta-platinum for Combo, lol. Woulda been a PP if I didnt get hit (yeah right).
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 08, 2010, 10:19:42 PM
Just keep taunting with it and you will have a full bar in no time.
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Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 11:08:31 PM
:lol holy moly now i know what icono was alking about on Chapter 8. I couldnt do shit I kept getting ran over

I got it by staying at the intersection and dodging (orbs doing damage) then just torture attack. If that failed, I just spammed RT and acted distinguished mentally-challenged.

Do not like this level at all give me Stone for all I care!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 11:39:26 PM
so i hear you can unlock nunchucks, which is like my favorite weapon in action games, but only by beating 100 chapters on normal, whats up with that?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 08, 2010, 11:42:09 PM
It's 100 chapters period.

You unlock them for purchase at Rodin's, but if you have the amount (halo farm), you can buy them directly from the telephone in Chapter 2 using the button code.
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Post by: drew on January 08, 2010, 11:43:14 PM
yeah ok that makes more sense
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Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 06:48:11 AM
For the torture Alfheims, I just take out the giant angels first, then I milk the rest of the enemies in the wave with taunts (her long taunt will give you 4 orbs I think). Kinda tedious, but it's not too bad.

And nunchucks! :o  THAT should be the award for beating Hard.
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Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 07:45:51 AM
This energy ball accessory really is great. It's especially useful during infinite climax because the ball will stun enemies, leaving them open for a combo. Jeanne was a total pushover with it.

Oh, and it turns out I already had it :lol just never used it.

Just made it to Chapter 8 on infinite climax and found a decent way to deal with that garbage highway section. Just staying in the breakdown lane on the side should give enough room to deal with the 3 enemies without having to worry too much about getting clipped by traffic. Why didn't I think of that before :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 09, 2010, 08:53:14 AM
The idea of having to fight Grace and Glory without WT is frighting. I still don't know exactly how to turn a parry into WT, I've done it accidentally a couple of times but I don't know the exact timing for it.
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Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2010, 10:30:17 AM
The idea of having to fight Grace and Glory without WT is frighting. I still don't know exactly how to turn a parry into WT, I've done it accidentally a couple of times but I don't know the exact timing for it.



there's a tiny flash the second you get hit, it's right then.  pretty tough to pull off in a hectic fight.
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Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 11:56:14 AM
The idea of having to fight Grace and Glory without WT is frighting. I still don't know exactly how to turn a parry into WT, I've done it accidentally a couple of times but I don't know the exact timing for it.

So dont use the crappy moon, use the Evil Rosary. Dodge their attacks and let the orbs do the work, then use TAs
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Post by: archie4208 on January 09, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Infinite Climax is pretty ez.  I think that chapters 8 and 14 are going to be very painful, though.
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Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 02:18:04 PM
I'm up to ch.15 in infinite climax. It's basically hard mode minus witch time + more damage. Nothing particularly painful about 8 and 14 though, unless you mean having to actually play those terrible stages.
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Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 02:19:35 PM
Yeah, this game isnt hard at all. I should be done with it by end of next week.

Dont have my camera so I cant get a cool Bayonetta shirt though ;_;
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 02:26:57 PM
I sent my Penny Arcade submission in yesterday morning. Hope I win :hyper
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: cool breeze on January 09, 2010, 03:20:21 PM
This game is already awesome.

And :bow Sega :bow2

Less than an hour in and there is music from Outrun and Space Harrier in this :rock


Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 09, 2010, 03:33:03 PM
 :usavich Angel Slayer  :usavich 

I'm done with the game for now, taking break, a LONG BREAK. And this game is not easy what's with you people!?

Also, Jeanne's taunts are awesome. She curses, she even said motherfucker.

Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 03:38:42 PM
It's more frustrating than hard, imo.

Some hits that make you go "OH COME ON I DODGED THAT", some cheap hits, QTEs, insta-deaths... etc.

Healing items heal for shit, enemies and environment drops rarely any health.

Difficulty:

NG2 > DMC4 > Bayonetta
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 03:50:59 PM
No doubt, but I'd put DMC4 and Bayonetta on the same level. Lots of small things that keep Bayonetta from being up top.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 09, 2010, 04:10:13 PM
Gotta agree with demi.  The core gameplay is essentially perfect, but there are some flat out distinguished mentally-challenged design choices that keep it from being a 10/10 game.

:usavich Angel Slayer  :usavich 

I'm done with the game for now, taking break, a LONG BREAK. And this game is not easy what's with you people!?

Also, Jeanne's taunts are awesome. She curses, she even said motherfucker.



The game is fairly easy because checkpoints are very plentiful.  It seems like the difficulty for most other action games is it being a large endurance test to see how long you can last a gauntlet of fights, whereas you get checkpoints after nearly every fight in Bayonetta.

I prefer Bayonetta's system simply because it is still challenging, but not overly frustrating.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 04:33:03 PM
WOW the vortexes on Hard target you like homing beacons jesus. I also got hit by Jubileus freeze glitch/trap. GOD DAMN
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 04:44:39 PM
This is the freeze glitch

[youtube=560,345]5C2095t5Etk[/youtube]
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 09, 2010, 04:55:04 PM
I got hit by that the first time.  I just through I sucked ass. :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 09, 2010, 05:33:48 PM
No doubt, but I'd put DMC4 and Bayonetta on the same level. Lots of small things that keep Bayonetta from being up top.

smfh

I sent my Penny Arcade submission in yesterday morning. Hope I win :hyper

shirt sucks
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 05:37:55 PM
Just finished infinite climax. You get a
spoiler (click to show/hide)
lightsaber, that seems worse in every way than the katana
[close]
for beating it. meh. Apparently it only took me 3 hours 15 minutes to beat inf. climax too. :wtf

Guess I'll go collect all the broken hearts/moon pearls now. Then the Alfheims and finally the survival. Probably gonna work on pure/platinuming each chapter as well in between.

I'd place this game around the same level as the other action games this gen. There's just too much crap in the game that bogs it down. Still great though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: OptimoPeach on January 09, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
Trying to decide between an 1/8 or this, but all the "poor design" comments have me leaning toward weed and just finishing up DMC for now
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Rman on January 09, 2010, 05:43:47 PM
No doubt, but I'd put DMC4 and Bayonetta on the same level. Lots of small things that keep Bayonetta from being up top.
You're really the biggest DMC4 fan on the internet.  I found it disappointing, though DMC3 was excellent.  
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 05:44:31 PM
Pillow Talk (the lightsaber) is actually the strongest in the game, you have to charge it though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 09, 2010, 05:47:53 PM
Trying to decide between an 1/8 or this, but all the "poor design" comments have me leaning toward weed and just finishing up DMC for now

this out dmcs any of the dmc games, and out actions any of the other action games this gen, haters gonna hate
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 05:54:58 PM
Trying to decide between an 1/8 or this, but all the "poor design" comments have me leaning toward weed and just finishing up DMC for now

Finish DMC first, you'll apprciate it a whole lot more once you play Bayonetta.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 09, 2010, 05:56:44 PM
I can't believe demi thinks DMC4 is harder than Bayonetta. No fucking way. Not at all.

Trying to decide between an 1/8 or this, but all the "poor design" comments have me leaning toward weed and just finishing up DMC for now

this out dmcs any of the dmc games, and out actions any of the other action games this gen, haters gonna hate

Bayonetta doesn't have any design flaws outside of Chapter 8. The game is complete and utter excellence.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 05:56:59 PM
Trying to decide between an 1/8 or this, but all the "poor design" comments have me leaning toward weed and just finishing up DMC for now

unless you're really anal about your action games, most of it won't bother you, beside the two shitty vehicle chapters

Pillow Talk (the lightsaber) is actually the strongest in the game, you have to charge it though.

ah, i used it for like one fight and then went to eat. didnt bother checking out its hold attack (which is charge i assume).
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 09, 2010, 06:00:05 PM
the vehicle sections arent shitty, theyre pretty fun, they just go on for too long
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 06:03:47 PM
They should have just made it one long cutscene with the accompanying music. Only good thing about that level, imo.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 06:09:41 PM
Bazillions are pretty useful. Equip them to the hands and the charge makes them a laser beam, for far attacks. Will definitely use these on Climax mode.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 06:13:19 PM
What was in chapter 8 that sucked ???

All of it. Vehicle levels defeat the entire reason I play action games (combat). Any time you're not in direct control of your character is bad game design imo (this includes QTE's and button mashing finishers, and that turret section). And also it's just not very fun to play. The camera is too low too.

The Afterburner theme is indeed awesome though. The entire OST is pretty awesome actually.

Bazillions are pretty useful. Equip them to the hands and the charge makes them a laser beam, for far attacks. Will definitely use these on Climax mode.

I used them on a couple of the bosses that like to float too far away for normal attacks. They're pretty awesome for that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 09, 2010, 06:14:19 PM
Bazillions are pretty useful. Equip them to the hands and the charge makes them a laser beam, for far attacks. Will definitely use these on Climax mode.

iconoclast annihalated
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 06:17:43 PM
what

They're just the same old guns you always have but with lasers. I never said they weren't useful
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 09, 2010, 06:18:53 PM
This one thing in bayonetta really sucks

oh but wait it's useful for this other thing

when did I say this one thing in bayonetta sucks

this thread sucks
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 09, 2010, 06:25:39 PM
The entire OST is pretty awesome actually.

Word. The moment I get some extra money I'm definitely buying it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 06:27:06 PM
This one thing in bayonetta really sucks

oh but wait it's useful for this other thing

when did I say this one thing in bayonetta sucks

this thread sucks

The difference between several weapons in Bayonetta is about the same as the difference between Ryu and Ken in earlier version of SF2.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 06:47:56 PM
Climax Mode is pretty much Hard Mode without witch time (Selene's Light doesnt even work). That's kind of disappointing.

Cant think of a good second accessory to go with Evil Rosary though. I guess I'll use Dinatea's Seal to taunt enemies for health.

I fucking bought the 500k accessory and it only restores 2 small orbs. What a fucking ripoff.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 09, 2010, 06:52:59 PM
Yeah I just used the taunt item. As long as you have a small bit of health (that you can regain in one 'tick' from the taunt) you can survive any single attack (as far as I know). Pretty useful if you have no life left during a boss or something.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 09, 2010, 06:57:32 PM
The Bracelet of Time allows you to go into WT in  Infinite Climax mode. But it eats away your magic in seconds.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 09, 2010, 10:20:29 PM
I figured out that you dont need to keep replaying each level (well, sort of).

The game saves before each verse's fight, so if you get hit (going for PP) you can just exit to title and hit continue. If I find myself getting my ass beat due to cheap hits, etc. I can just exit and reload and be back where I was. Your rank isnt affected either.

Obviously this wont help if you fuck up for Combo and Time

Yes I'm probably late on this
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 10, 2010, 12:01:40 AM
I started playing this again since it seems a bunch of the US EB squad now has it.  Finished the first four chapters on hard.  Seems actually to be a bit easier than I remembered for some reason.  Jeanne was giving me trouble before in the flashback battle, and yesterday I was able to beat her on the first try, then proceed thru chapters 3 and 4. :lol

Dunno if I have the motivation to do all that halo farming, though I really want some of the weapons and accessories you folks have been talking about.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 10, 2010, 12:17:44 AM
so far, so awesome
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 10, 2010, 12:20:46 AM
You know one thing I'm actually disappointed with is the sex stuff. Before I got the game all I ever read was how sexual the game is/was going to be. And then I play and I'm like "That's it?" There's a couple of crotch shots and that's it. I actually wanted more to be honest.

 :/

 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 10, 2010, 12:28:15 AM
I'm glad all the sex stuff was played for laughs, actually.  That was one of the reasons I was against getting the game till it started getting raves from everybody.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 01:47:08 AM
Getting Platinums up the hoohoo on Infinite Climax, thanks to my trick (or not so trick). Maybe I will unlock Jeanne legit :smug

me > junpei
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 10, 2010, 01:49:03 AM
You know one thing I'm actually disappointed with is the sex stuff. Before I got the game all I ever read was how sexual the game is/was going to be. And then I play and I'm like "That's it?" There's a couple of crotch shots and that's it. I actually wanted more to be honest.

 :/

Anything more, and it would be just awkward. As it is, it's funny awkward. It's comedy.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 10, 2010, 06:09:42 AM
If you hold LT + LB during the cutscenes preceding Chapter 14 and Chapter 8 Verse 3 it will play the classic Space Harrier and Afterburner themes instead of the remixes.

:bow :bow Bayonetta OST :bow2 :bow2

I figured out that you dont need to keep replaying each level (well, sort of).

The game saves before each verse's fight, so if you get hit (going for PP) you can just exit to title and hit continue. If I find myself getting my ass beat due to cheap hits, etc. I can just exit and reload and be back where I was. Your rank isnt affected either.

Obviously this wont help if you fuck up for Combo and Time

Yes I'm probably late on this

Oh wow, had no idea about this. That should make PP's a hell of a lot easier. Not sure if that's a good or a bad a thing though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 10, 2010, 06:17:15 AM
I'm gonna try that LT + LB thing now! :hyper

God, I love this game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 10, 2010, 02:24:23 PM
NA and PAL finds the cool things out in games for the rest of the world, its like nobody even bought it in japan last october
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: cool breeze on January 10, 2010, 02:45:39 PM
Are there any negatives to entering those codes? also, if I just got to chapter 5, can I go back to chapter 2 without messing up progress? and what accessory should I buy? I'm still in the progress of buying techniques.

QTEs suck in this game, btw.  Only time I died was on the QTEs because sometimes you get a fancy cutscene to watch, and other times you get a fancy cutscene with a qte that just shows up without warning.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 03:06:29 PM
No negatives I'm aware of. Yes you can play previous chapters. Buy whatever you want, I beat the game without them. Hard and Climax you will need Evil Rosary at least, so get used to dodging (or: spam RT)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 10, 2010, 03:07:40 PM
I think I screwed up the dodge thing in Bayonetta. I'm old and slow so I tend to linger on buttons after pressing them, and I bought that breakdance move, so now I go into a dance every time I dodge.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 03:14:51 PM
You can turn it off - go to File -> Umbran Arts -> Special Techniques
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 10, 2010, 03:20:25 PM
yeah, the stupid qtes kill me -- i go into cutscene ignore mode and then BOOM PRESS X and fuh wat
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 10, 2010, 03:44:04 PM
You can turn it off - go to File -> Umbran Arts -> Special Techniques

:duh Awesome.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 10, 2010, 04:35:03 PM
I could've unlocked Jeanne legit if I wanted. I just ya know didn't want to.  :(   I sorta get the QTE complaints for like the first time it happens at the end of Chapter 2 but after that I was pretty good. Just never put down the controller.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 04:48:21 PM
GOD DAMNIT I DIED TWICE ON THE FINAL BIT

Fucking pretty much Platinum'd the level but NO

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF god I hate this game for bullshit like that
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 10, 2010, 04:53:30 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 04:56:30 PM
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7209/33368933.jpg)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 04:57:52 PM
:lol

My medals:

PP, P, P, G, blank (didnt bother with alfheim), G, P, P, P, PP

Those little scenes during the credits count towards the medals, if you complete them.

I totally fucking Platinum'd that level, but GOD DAMN RAGE, so now I got stuck with a Silver
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 05:06:37 PM
Pillow Talk is BEAST

I just decimated Grace and Glory without breaking a sweat, OMG

Might have to do some Plat runs with this sexy thing
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 10, 2010, 05:09:33 PM
Damn demi. I knew you were gonna get 1000 before but this is fast. Good job.  :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 05:13:01 PM
Took me 60 hours game time
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 05:25:36 PM
Also Infinite Climax being a re-branded Hard mode is a -huge- disappointment.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 10, 2010, 05:27:25 PM
Not too fond of the crap where you have to activate statues and rush over to the brick walls, but I don't think that would really qualify as "bad design."
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 05:29:32 PM
There's a fight in Chapter 10 that uses those statues and is very useful
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 10, 2010, 05:50:21 PM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/1pc8xe.png)

Took me 29 hours.  I'm burnt out and will 1000 the game later.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 10, 2010, 06:44:19 PM
The QTEs seem to be the only truly bad design choice in the game.  Otherwise quite perfect besides the motorcycle section running too long.

yeah, summoning those hair creatures is getting very old.  Would be nice if there was an option to turn the climax QTEs into regular skippable cutscenes.  or at least simplifying them so you don't have to do the whole rapid finger thing.  and to turn off the other ones altogether. 

QTEs are aids, unless you're playing RE4.  The only game to get the context sensitive thing right.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: MCD on January 10, 2010, 06:46:03 PM
play ninja blade.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: cool breeze on January 10, 2010, 06:48:41 PM
Wasn't there a game where there they didn't punish you for failing a QTE, but successfully pulling it off game you an advantage in the next part? More games should do that if they must have QTEs.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 06:49:49 PM
Wasn't there a game where there they didn't punish you for failing a QTE, but successfully pulling it off game you an advantage in the next part? More games should do that if they must have QTEs.

Ninja Blade doesnt let you even lose QTEs, it simply rewinds. lol.

Cant think of any game that gives you an advantage if you pass a QTE though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 10, 2010, 06:54:45 PM
play ninja blade.


doesn't count if the entire game is QTEs. 
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 10, 2010, 06:55:46 PM
>Pure Platinum every verse in Chapter 3
>Get hit by fire at the end
> -122 damage, Platinum trophy final

FUCKKGHKJOGLWNklngalmgl'
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Rman on January 10, 2010, 06:57:27 PM
Could developers just kill bs QTEs?  What a horrible mechanic. Thanks, Shenmue.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 06:58:32 PM
>Pure Platinum every verse in Chapter 3
>Get hit by fire at the end
> -122 damage, Platinum trophy final

FUCKKGHKJOGLWNklngalmgl'

haha, pwnt. Couldnt you have just exit -> title?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 10, 2010, 07:14:13 PM
Probably, but I didn't think it would matter since I wasn't in a verse. Lesson learned. :(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 07:17:23 PM
So damage outside of versus affects your score? That is good to know.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 10, 2010, 07:21:41 PM
Guess so. For some reason when I PP'd the Prologue I took 22 damage, but it still gave me the PP trophy anyway. I just figured I took it outside of battle somehow and it didn't affect my score.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Third on January 10, 2010, 07:24:38 PM
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7209/33368933.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/1pc8xe.png)

Took me 29 hours.  I'm burnt out and will 1000 the game later.

Whoa, you sure are some dedicated gamers. I beat it on normal and thought it was pretty hard. No chance in hell I'd replay this on a higher difficulty level. I'm not a machochist.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 10, 2010, 07:29:33 PM
yeah i think im ready to start playing this again, the trick is to use a light quick touch especially with the right trigger and tortures, or else youll injure yourself eventually
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 07:33:30 PM
I broke 2000 doing one of those Gigaton mashers from beating a boss, not that 2000 halos means shit to me
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 10, 2010, 08:03:02 PM
Whoa, you sure are some dedicated gamers. I beat it on normal and thought it was pretty hard. No chance in hell I'd replay this on a higher difficulty level. I'm not a machochist.

It really isn't that hard.  The sword/claws combo is borderline broken and there are some pretty simple combos (aka PK(ch)P) that destroy most enemies.  There is an abundance of checkpoints too, moreso than any other game like this.  If I had to do the Space Harrier shit every time before I fought Jeanne I wouldn't bother.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 08:15:05 PM
You really shouldnt be dying or using items at all... tsk tsk
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 10, 2010, 08:19:24 PM
I only used the items when you had to use the canons to fight Fortiudo or whatever in Chapter 15, and that was out of impatience.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 08:23:04 PM
I had trouble with that, but the cannon shoots faster if you mash the buttons, like in the Fantasy Zone level. You can disrupt his laser attack, too.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 10, 2010, 10:22:50 PM
How the heck do you kill something by jumping on it?  That's one of the achievements, and I can't figure out how to do it.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 10, 2010, 10:26:32 PM
Equip Kilgore on feet, go to Prologue and jump on stuff

Congrats
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 10, 2010, 11:02:37 PM
lol, I've never used Kilgore.  That explains it.  I kept trying to get it with Odette.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 12:23:21 AM
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/01/bayonetta-style/

Another awkward wonder hates Bayonetta's style

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/01/bayonetta-and-the-glamorous-mundane/

Kohler, surprisingly loves it
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 12:33:01 AM
Wow, what an idiot.  His main reason for disliking Bayonetta is that the art styles and the main character's fashion choices clash? :rofl

Maybe he should go back to critiquing Project Runway and America's Top Model and leave Bayonetta to the real gamers.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 11, 2010, 12:35:22 AM
derp derp I'm to much of a sensitive baby to ignore the best playing action game of all time.  I honestly stopped giving a shit about Bayonetta's over the top sluttiness about 30 minutes into the game.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 12:36:46 AM
His achievements only have him past the prologue... I sent him a message (he's on my list) saying he should put more time into it. At least finish the game before saying its shit... really irks me when people do that.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 11, 2010, 12:39:55 AM
I read that this morning and it honestly made me a bit upset. What a tard. Also Ichi, you can use the whip and shotguns to jump kill enemies. Jump, grab them and then jump off them. It's how I got my achievement, it's also how you beat two of the Alfhiems.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 12:45:59 AM
I haven't even bothered with the Alfheims yet, just trying to finish the game on hard right now.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 12:47:32 AM
Most of the alfheims are doable even on Hard, I had to notch to Normal for a couple - namely the one where you have to defeat the Golem using only Witch Time
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: The Sceneman on January 11, 2010, 12:51:21 AM
arghghghg I want this game so bad. Got no game money for a couple of weeks  :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 12:52:37 AM
tbh, Scenester, I would rent it if you are hard on money. I think you could run through it on a weekend if you wanted. Even 1000 isnt hard, if you are used to difficult games / reflexes.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: The Sceneman on January 11, 2010, 01:00:56 AM
really? I was kinda expecting like an extreme amount of time for the achievements after DMC4, sweet I'll look at renting it. I think a bro is picking it up so I might just borrow it of him when hes done, but then theres a waiting period... I'll see how my finances look in a week. Mass Effect 2 does have priority though.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 01:02:39 AM
Nah DMC4 is definitely harder bceause you have to get S-ranks, Bayonetta doesnt give a shit
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 01:11:36 AM
Just got both achievements with Khulshedra and Kilgore equipped.  I'd gotten too used to using Shuraba and Odette.

Thanks, guys.  Going to see if I can finish up the game on hard today and then start working on the Alfheims.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 11, 2010, 01:13:06 AM
Man, this is so Viewtiful Joe at times. Which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 01:27:39 AM
His achievements only have him past the prologue... I sent him a message (he's on my list) saying he should put more time into it. At least finish the game before saying its shit... really irks me when people do that.

Only past the fucking prologue?  The guy is reviewing the game after playing probably an hour of it?  That's just embarrassing and pathetic.

Obviously he has no understanding of the mechanics of the gameplay or anything else that would qualify him to review it.  It'd be like Ebert critiquing a movie he only saw the opening thirty minutes of.  And this guy's getting paid for this?  Pathetic.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 01:34:48 AM
Man, this is so Viewtiful Joe at times. Which is a good thing.

You can buy the Red Hot Kick too (called Afterburner Kick in the game)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: drew on January 11, 2010, 01:51:02 AM
i dont understand something about the alfheims, the only way to do them on normal after you beat the game is to start a new game, but how would the peices of witch heart and cracked magic orbs transfer over to my new game+ file on hard?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 01:59:20 AM
i'm not sure i understand the question... you can do alfheims on any difficulty, and it will add to your current heart / pearl. any previous spots / alfheims you do will reward you with an angel bullet.

to replay a level on a different difficulty you go to the submenu (LB)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 11, 2010, 02:02:59 AM
just killed fortitudo. easy fight but awesome.

:bow bayonetta :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 02:05:54 AM
Yeah, drew, you don't have to make a new save file to play the game on hard.  You just use the RB to bring up the sub-menu and switch the difficulty on all the levels you've already cleared on normal.  You can choose to do the Alfheims in any order. I'm just holding off 'cause I want to do them all once I clear hard and have enough Halos stored up so that I can get the Moon of Maaha Kaala.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 02:06:54 AM
Just do the halo farm trick on Iustria (plant), even without trying you can get over 200k halos
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 08:25:43 AM
Absolutely none, it's just there so you can equip them on both hands and feet at the same time.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 11, 2010, 09:57:18 AM
Bayonetta debuted 5th in the UK sales charts.   8)

It was beat out by "Just Dance" on the Wii. :'(
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 10:22:50 AM
Anybody know how it's doing in the US, saleswise?  I saw the US advertising on Youtube.  It actually looks pretty cool.  Plus, all the reviews have been great.  I don't know if that will translate into sales, though.  I hope so, I'd love to see another Bayonetta game a couple of years from now.  Maybe one that takes place in Inferno this time!
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 11, 2010, 10:23:58 AM
It will probably sell enough to feed Kamiya for another game, and frankly that is all we can hope for.  A game like this is going to have very limited appeal.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 11, 2010, 10:26:10 AM
In a just world, this thing would've sold like a million copies in Japan already.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 11, 2010, 12:50:22 PM
Chapter 6 Pure Platinum ruined because Cereza decides to trip and fall during the fucking ESCORT MISSION! WHO DESIGNED THIS TRASH
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 11, 2010, 12:55:24 PM
i saw an advert while in a bar in hawaii
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 11, 2010, 12:55:53 PM
also how much do i hate grace and glory? so much

spamming rt like a fiend does not excitement make
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 11, 2010, 12:59:19 PM
Grace and Glory just relax and pepper them with bullets.

One (usually) will only come up to you, then do a downward claw swipe, which is easy to RT and activate witch time.

The AI is as smart as DMC4's, as long as the other isnt in camera focus, it wont attack.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 11, 2010, 01:10:28 PM
Anybody know how it's doing in the US, saleswise?  I saw the US advertising on Youtube.  It actually looks pretty cool.  Plus, all the reviews have been great.  I don't know if that will translate into sales, though.

Judging by the gamer dudes on my favorite non-gaming specific forum, people either don't know much about it, or are reluctant to buy it because of what they do know about it, which essentially extends to jappy wacky cheeseburger DMC. I posted a clip I found that showed off a couple of the torture attacks and the basic gameplay, and that didn't help much.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: archie4208 on January 11, 2010, 01:24:24 PM
Yeah I think it will probably do 200-300k at most in Europe and the US.  Apparently it did 300k in Japan so half a million for a game like this isn't that bad.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 11, 2010, 01:31:02 PM
It charted alright in the UK, though (6th and 14th), beating out Darksiders which is supposedly selling well. Not great placements, but maybe good word of mouth will boost it a bit.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Van Cruncheon on January 11, 2010, 06:54:09 PM
Grace and Glory just relax and pepper them with bullets.

One (usually) will only come up to you, then do a downward claw swipe, which is easy to RT and activate witch time.

The AI is as smart as DMC4's, as long as the other isnt in camera focus, it wont attack.

:bow demi :bow2
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Beezy on January 11, 2010, 08:34:41 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 12, 2010, 01:38:38 AM
the more I think about it, the more this game seems like social commentary about how japanese women don't shave
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Beezy on January 12, 2010, 01:49:38 AM
you're reaching
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Don Flamenco on January 12, 2010, 01:53:12 AM
not at all.  The hair empowers Bayonetta, a dominant female character to overcome her oppressors wait what
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 12, 2010, 02:08:41 AM
Just got to some electro and fire boss dudes, how far in is that? Trying to figure out if I should just go ahead and buy it, or if I'll have to complete it in the rental period.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Beezy on January 12, 2010, 02:49:22 AM
When you parry with the Moon of Mana Khalaa, how do you go into witch time? I did it by accident a few times today and it helped a lot against Gracious and Glorious. I can't fucking stand them on hard.

Just got to some electro and fire boss dudes, how far in is that? Trying to figure out if I should just go ahead and buy it, or if I'll have to complete it in the rental period.

Not far. What chapter was that?
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: demi on January 12, 2010, 03:13:43 AM
There's two types of parrys with the moon. The first one is a general bounce-back. The second, you have to get them like... immediately before you get hit. You'll know it worked when this bright orb appears and she slices back, and WT activates.

Much easier to practice on the prologue to see the difference.

Duckman is probably talking about Chapter 5 where you first meet Grace and Glory. That's not far at all. There's 18 chapters in the game (Prolog + 16 chaps + Epilogue)
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Beezy on January 12, 2010, 03:21:43 AM
The second, you have to get them like... immediately before you get hit.
Ah, so it's like the bat thing. The regular bounce back parry is much easier to do than I thought it would be. I love that it reflects back projectiles too.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: duckman2000 on January 12, 2010, 03:50:50 AM
Got a bit further in, fought that chick again, and now I'm chasing after some kid. The frequency of cutscenes is starting to wear on me.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: Ichirou on January 12, 2010, 07:58:41 AM
I just tried the Durgas trick on the boss in Chapter 7, got 1.5 million halos without even trying.  Fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 12, 2010, 11:01:54 AM
Whoever thought the Angel Arms (and their related missions) implementation was acceptable needs to find a new profession. They are clearly not fit for game design.
Title: Re: Bayonetta Bore cheeseburger Surprise Thread. OP updated with secrets and stuff.
Post by: iconoclast on January 12, 2010, 11:29:48 AM
Not sure what keeps damaging me too... Pretty sure every chapter I've Pure Platinum'd so far I've had <85 damage by the end. Wassupwitdat? I'm still getting my PP trophy though so I don't really care.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready!
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 12, 2010, 11:11:13 PM
Second game I ever 1000/1000 (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2198/2166312973_1d32c4396f_o.gif)

:bow Bayonetta :bow2

:bow Platintum Games  :bow2

:bow Sega  :bow2


Best fucking game ever.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: dark1x on January 13, 2010, 10:20:57 AM
Finished it for the first time last night and thought it was surprisingly good.  It has its share of flaws (annoying technical hiccups and frequent nonsense in the form of cutscenes), but it's way better than I expected it to be.  I was never a huge Devil May Cry fan and almost wrote this off as a result, but really, it's so much more fun.

Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: drew on January 13, 2010, 11:42:33 AM
if you dont understand the story you must have caught the stupid
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: dark1x on January 13, 2010, 12:23:48 PM
if you dont understand the story you must have caught the stupid
So you're saying you ENJOYED the story? 
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on January 13, 2010, 01:23:09 PM
DMC4
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 13, 2010, 11:21:42 PM
So I beat the secret boss.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
That was really really fucking hard. Easily the hardest boss in th entire game plus the fight is in Non Stop Climax mode. FUCK HARD. I put on the Climax Bracelet because fighting him any other way is masochism. I almost beat him once with out getting hit, had half his health bar left and he does his near instant kill attack. Normally you can just turn into the panther and run away but it's like he warped to me. FUCKING INSTANT TRANSMISSION. I barely beat him many tries later. You get the final LP "Rodin" for beating him.
[close]

Got a silver medal  :pimp
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: drew on January 13, 2010, 11:29:47 PM
So you're saying you ENJOYED the story? 

yeah, actually, i thought it was cute and funny and will remember it fondly

spoiler (click to show/hide)
no homo
[close]
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on January 14, 2010, 12:42:52 AM
So I beat the secret boss.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
That was really really fucking hard. Easily the hardest boss in th entire game plus the fight is in Non Stop Climax mode. FUCK HARD. I put on the Climax Bracelet because fighting him any other way is masochism. I almost beat him once with out getting hit, had half his health bar left and he does his near instant kill attack. Normally you can just turn into the panther and run away but it's like he warped to me. FUCKING INSTANT TRANSMISSION. I barely beat him many tries later. You get the final LP "Rodin" for beating him.
[close]

Got a silver medal  :pimp

Do you get the LPs for "cheating" an inputting the weapons codes into the telephones?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 14, 2010, 12:50:52 AM
You can buy all of the unlockable ones except the Sai Fung. You have to legit that one.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 14, 2010, 12:54:52 AM
I just started ch. 14 on hard and noticed for the first time how she rubs her hand above her crotch when she says the thread title line. :lol

I think I'm gonna start using the beads. Some fights have been fucking frustrating so far.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on January 14, 2010, 12:56:53 AM
You can buy all of the unlockable ones except the Sai Fung. You have to legit that one.

So what happens if you buy the LP you got for beating that secret boss, you just don't get anything for beating the secret boss?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on January 14, 2010, 01:00:11 AM
So does this mean you can get the LP achievement by just halo farming and getting all the unlockables using the phone cheat?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 14, 2010, 01:04:52 AM
I just started ch. 14 on hard and noticed for the first time how she rubs her hand above her crotch when she says the thread title line. :lol

 :smug

So does this mean you can get the LP achievement by just halo farming and getting all the unlockables using the phone cheat?

Yeah I think so. I see no reason why it wouldn't work. You mostly likely wouldn't get anything for beating the secret boss if you already have the weapon. It would just be for fun/torture.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on January 14, 2010, 01:09:22 AM
That secret boss needs to be a playable character in Bayonetta 2.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on January 14, 2010, 04:16:20 AM
Rodin is just a dumb add-in. I'm not sure if its even supposed to be story/world related, its just some distinguished mentally-challenged copy/paste. I'm not bothering with it.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on January 14, 2010, 05:56:20 AM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2va18g1.jpg)

I've been naughty. :teehee

Finally gonna take a break and play some other games for a while before I move on to PP'ing Hard. All around, this is probably the best action game of this gen thus far if only because it's the most complete (barring Infinite Climax being a Hard rebranding). Still, there's plenty of room for improvement in Bayonetta 2. I haven't even bothered with the Lost Chapter or the secret boss yet (I still don't have enough Halos to fight him anyway), but I am done for now.

:piss Cereza, vehicles, stupid Alfheim challenges
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on January 14, 2010, 10:12:27 AM
Ew... Normal? Cmon you can do Inf Climax
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: drew on January 14, 2010, 12:29:45 PM
in before kranz says you photoshopped that or something
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on January 14, 2010, 02:15:17 PM
Ew... Normal? Cmon you can do Inf Climax

At this point I think I can do Hard without much trouble, but some parts of Inf Climax will definitely be a bitch to PP (specifically the chapter 12 Jeanne fight). I intend do PP everything eventually though, including very easy 8)
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 14, 2010, 05:59:43 PM
Secret Boss:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqdzE5w7XjE

Making this shit look easy  :'(  Oh good job icono.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on January 14, 2010, 10:56:18 PM
Fuck it, started up a PP Hard run. I can't resist my action games for long... Just got a 2.5 million score on the first Alfheim too :lol

Hopefully It won't be long before I can buy the platinum ticket. I have 6~ million halos right now so it can't be too far away.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on January 15, 2010, 02:23:36 AM
I can already buy it and I'm sure I have less platinums than you.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: archie4208 on January 22, 2010, 09:07:25 AM
Kamiya is interested in making some more Bayonetta. :o :o :o (http://gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2010/01/21/news-bayonetta-2-practically-confirmed-almost.aspx)
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 22, 2010, 09:28:07 AM
 :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper :hyper
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 24, 2010, 03:25:22 AM
Just beat it on infinite climax under 3 hours. The only achievements I have left are the alfheims, collectibles, and ice witch. I'm gonna try to platinum normal and unlock Jeanne too.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on January 24, 2010, 06:55:47 AM
I need to do infinite climax, alfheims, and treasure chests, but I've moved on to AC2 for now.  My skills aren't good enough to do some of the alfheims, I think. :(
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on January 27, 2010, 01:08:12 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1420-Bayonetta

 :o He liked it
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on January 27, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
I wouldnt say he liked it so much as basically slam it because he's an old fogey shittard with no skills and the audacity to even say he's English. Then he says "well if you ignore ALL of what I said, its ok"

Wow thanks
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 29, 2010, 02:33:44 AM
You're suppose to beat on his hand when he grabs the platform you're on.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ganhyun on January 29, 2010, 05:44:59 AM
damn i suck at this kind of game. I just beat it on normal, its doing the credits now, but damn, i got a bunch of stones for the levels.

of course, i bought all the techniques and no weapons or such too. might be part of the problem.


Edit:

:lol at the dancing sequence
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on January 29, 2010, 07:48:12 AM
I get a ton of platinum medals on specific verses, but there's almost always one battle per chapter that I don't "get" right away. So I die a few times and end up with a stone medal regardless of how well I did on the majority of verses.  :-\
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on January 29, 2010, 08:50:38 PM
:piss Gracious and Glorious :piss2

"Hey guys, you know that gameplay technique that defines the entire combat system? Well we're getting rid of it for these enemies. No Witch-Time for you!"

Kamiya :piss2
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on January 29, 2010, 09:01:53 PM
"Oh yeah, and they can interrupt your combos, but their air combos are a guaranteed 75% of your life bar if the first blow hits, in a game that all but shuns healing items."
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: drew on January 29, 2010, 09:09:08 PM
bat form, noob
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 29, 2010, 09:12:51 PM
You guys bitch way too much.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on January 29, 2010, 09:15:36 PM
bat form, noob

Edit: n/m, I don't even have Bat Form. Thought you were talking about Crow form.

You guys bitch way too much.

There'd be nothing to bitch about if Witch Time wasn't selectively removed for certain enemies just to fuck with you.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: archie4208 on January 29, 2010, 09:16:25 PM
:piss Gracious and Glorious :piss2

"Hey guys, you know that gameplay technique that defines the entire combat system? Well we're getting rid of it for these enemies. No Witch-Time for you!"

Kamiya :piss2

Boy you will hate Infinite Climax. :lol
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on January 29, 2010, 09:42:11 PM
Okay, wtf are you supposed to do after beating those giants near the end of chapter 10? There's an island with two statues and a bunch of water. I can activate witch time, but then it's completely unclear where to go.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on January 29, 2010, 09:53:34 PM
Use the witch time to walk on the water and jump on the platform that leads to the exit.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on January 29, 2010, 11:04:39 PM
How do you miss verses? Every time I complete a chapter there are a bunch of blank spaces in the row of medals at the end. I just replayed a chapter and got a Stone Award even though I got gold or better on every verse where I received a medal after completion. Where are the missing verses? Are there little optional side areas you're supposed to complete or something?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 29, 2010, 11:06:23 PM
Don't worry about that on your first playthrough. Some are hidden and some require backtracking.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on January 29, 2010, 11:15:08 PM
How do you miss verses? Every time I complete a chapter there are a bunch of blank spaces in the row of medals at the end. I just replayed a chapter and got a Stone Award even though I got gold or better on every verse where I received a medal after completion. Where are the missing verses? Are there little optional side areas you're supposed to complete or something?

They're the Alfheims
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 05, 2010, 08:04:44 PM
"Though its US and European launch occurred outside the reporting period, Sega Sammy said that PlatinumGames' critically acclaimed Bayonetta has sold 1.1 million units in the US, Europe, and Japan across the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3."

GOOD THINGS DO HAPPEN

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6249690.html?tag=recent_news;title;1
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: chronovore on February 06, 2010, 12:38:46 AM
That's great. I'm happy for them.

I just tried to order a copy through Play-Asia.com; when did they stop offering free shipping to Japan?
Anyone have an extra "$5 off $50+" coupon?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on February 10, 2010, 09:24:50 PM
I finally came back to this last night. I'm looking for the chests and alfheims for the last 3 achievements. I completed half of them so far. I'm trying to platinum the game on normal at the same time too.

What do you get for finding all the tears of umbran? I'm not so sure if I'm gonna bother with that.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 10, 2010, 09:32:58 PM
You unlock the Climax Braclet. Which is super mode(whenever you fight a one of the big bosses) all the time but the scores and shit don't register.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on February 10, 2010, 09:51:07 PM
Eh... no reason to rush for that.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2010, 10:16:05 PM
Are there any fun accessories to use (not just ones that make the game easier)?  I haven't bought any yet, just spent my halos on the special techniques and weapons so far.  Some of the accessories sound cool but I don't know which to get.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on February 11, 2010, 10:19:50 PM
Moon of Mahaa Kalaa. It lets you parry enemy attacks. It's a lot easier to use than I expected. I no longer play the game without it.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 11, 2010, 10:24:45 PM
The Rosary is awesome too.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 12, 2010, 04:03:23 AM
Moon of Mahaa Kalaa was cool.  Made the combat a lot faster and more fun because I didn't have to dodge anymore, just hit towards enemies whenever I saw an attack coming while I was combo-ing dudes.  Made the claw enemies and Jeanne fights super easy but fun. 

Finished the game.  Was pretty good.  There's a lot of things I like about it, some things I don't and the game was a lot different than the expectations I had going in.  Feels more of a 3rd pillar than a DMC/NG action game or GoW/Dante/Rygar action game.  Looking forward to going through hard and the higher difficulties because normal was kind of too easy and action games are best when they're really challenging.

Is there any mode like bloody palace?  One of the things I didn't like about the game was how the combat was always in small bites.  Like you fight 3-4 guys and then that's it, then move on and cutscenes, and then 3-4 guys, etc...my favorite level was the tower climb because there was a lot of good action.  I really like the combat, so I just want to fight lots and lots of guys and enjoy the satisfaction of fighting.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on February 12, 2010, 07:51:24 AM
Is there any mode like bloody palace?  One of the things I didn't like about the game was how the combat was always in small bites.
I haven't unlocked it yet, but I heard that the lost chapter is like it. I think you have to beat all the alfheims to unlock it.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 12, 2010, 05:42:39 PM
A review of Bayonetta based off the demo:


http://tsurage.blogspot.com/2010/02/bayonetta-demo.html

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Bayonetta (demo)

Bayonetta you're mystery
Jerky cutscenes tell a bad story
The camera lags on the battlefield, I can't tell where you are
Bayonetta you're DMC
With your long hair and nudity
Your combos are long, witch time drags on, it's mashing, it's mashing

eriously, though...

I pretty much thought that Bayonetta would be like Devil May Cry 3 before I played it. But now that I played it, it's pretty much confirmed.

The gimmick to Bayonetta is Witch Time, which triggers when you dodge an enemy attack at the last moment. When it's triggered, enemies will move in slow-mo temporarily, allowing you to pummel them. The concept is good, and I always believe that the element of timing adds a bit of depth that this type of game typically lacks.

The only thing is, it's not really anything new. Devil May Cry 3 does a similar thing with the Royal Guard playstyle where you time a block at the moment of impact in order to do a counter. The difference is, Bayonetta is more of a manual counter. Witch time activates and gives you an opportunity to "counter" by unleashing whatever arsenal of attacks you want to. If you enjoy the combo process, Bayonetta's implementation of timing-based defense is better.

Another difference is that Devil May Cry 3 has a "free form" combo system in which every move more or less chains into another move if you time it correctly, so you can presumeably combo infinitely if you're good enough. By contrast, Bayonetta has preset combos. In execution, though, the two games are roughly the same. Bayonetta has preset combos but they are in such abundance that there's quite a lot of variety in what you can do.

So that brings us to the focal point - Bayonetta is a combo game. Bayonetta is a combo game just as DMC3 is a combo game. And I cannot stand them. I find the design of such a game, low-brow. Most people disagree, judging by DMC3's sales and popularity, and judging by DMC3 and Bayonetta's critical reception. But I absolutely believe that these games cater to smug individuals who get off on watching themselves kick ass. The problem is the game doesn't even require much attention to have you kick ass. You just mash a few buttons and that just translates to some awesome visuals on-screen. It's incredibly superficial. And to me, incredibly boring. I'm not saying that it requires no skill to maintain a combo. But juggle-based gameplay is not about the game challenging you with situations as much as it is you challenging yourself to sustain your erection longer.

The music is pretty awesome though.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: OptimoPeach on February 12, 2010, 05:48:29 PM
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So that brings us to the focal point - Bayonetta is a combo game. Bayonetta is a combo game just as DMC3 is a combo game. And I cannot stand them. I find the design of such a game, low-brow. Most people disagree, judging by DMC3's sales and popularity, and judging by DMC3 and Bayonetta's critical reception. But I absolutely believe that these games cater to smug individuals who get off on watching themselves kick ass. The problem is the game doesn't even require much attention to have you kick ass. You just mash a few buttons and that just translates to some awesome visuals on-screen. It's incredibly superficial. And to me, incredibly boring. I'm not saying that it requires no skill to maintain a combo. But juggle-based gameplay is not about the game challenging you with situations as much as it is you challenging yourself to sustain your erection longer.
:lol Translation: I am terrible at video games
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 12, 2010, 05:48:49 PM
I haven't played enough action games to make a satisfying rebuttal, somebody destroy this guy with logic, that's why I posted the link.  :-*

(the blog belongs to Tsubaki from GAF)
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 12, 2010, 05:56:45 PM
Tsubaki considers himself an old-school gamer, which translates to him pretty much hating everything made in the last ten years or so.

I tried to explain to him why Bayonetta is a good game but since I haven't really played the DMC games he just dismissed me as not understanding that Bayonetta does nothing new.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: bork on February 12, 2010, 06:01:29 PM
Tsubaki played the demo.  He has no idea about the ways you can switch weapons/cancel into other combos.  He has no idea about how you change up the game play systems entirely when purchasing and equipping new items.  He has no idea about its challenge level and crazy boss fights.  He appears to have played the demo for about two minutes.

This is the equivalent of someone trying Street Fighter for the first time, pounding on buttons and winning against the CPU, then declaring the game "a button masher."
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 12, 2010, 06:14:41 PM
Tsubaki has used Ninja Gaiden II as an example of a game that does it "right" as opposed to Bayonetta, which I guess does it "wrong" since it's all a bunch of preset combos you do to maintain an erection. ::)
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Don Flamenco on February 12, 2010, 06:17:34 PM
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I pretty much thought that Bayonetta would be like Devil May Cry 3 before I played it. But now that I played it, it's pretty much confirmed.


I pretty much just about think that this could possibly be maybe the worst sentence that has possibly graced the English language.  But now that I have pretty much read this, it is probably confirmed, for the most part. 
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on February 12, 2010, 07:12:44 PM
Who is Tsubaki? The only Tsubaki I know from GAF off the top of my head is Sanjuro Tsubaki and this isn't him is it?

Bayonetta IS a combo game though. But I am curious to know what games he considers high-brow if combo games are low-brow. Personally I find skill-based games to be as high-brow as it gets.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 12, 2010, 07:43:22 PM
I started playing hard and the game is MUCH better (sorta like DMC4).  Lots of great fights from the start.  Good times. 

What's the point of the magic bar?  I know you need it for torture attacks, but is there anything else?  I don't really use torture attacks much and wondering if I should spend the money to buy the rest of the magic bar upgrades at the shop.  The only accessory I've bought is still the moon one.  Wondering if I should try some others since you can have 3 equipped.  I don't have a whole ton of halos to spend and I have no interest in ever farming them, so I won't have many the entire game before I shelve eventually.  Trying to just buy what counts.

Also what's the difference between the production model versions of weapons and the ones you have?

Bayonetta IS a combo game though.

Does it have to be though?  My main attack is PKP with the sword (you know that ends with the big horizontal sword swipe for major damage).  I don't really do combos.  I just mix up some small attacks and tiny strings while dodging.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on February 12, 2010, 07:59:52 PM
The magic bar is only for torture attacks and some accessories (one of them allows you to activate it with magic and it will absorb some hits for you). You can only equip two accessories though; honestly I have no idea what that third slot is for. And the production models for weapons only allow you to equip them on both your hands and feet (very lame).

It doesn't NEED to be a combo game, just like DMC doesn't, but it's really how it's meant to be played in order to score well.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 12, 2010, 08:01:51 PM
Does it have to be though?  My main attack is PKP with the sword (you know that ends with the big horizontal sword swipe for major damage).  I don't really do combos.  I just mix up some small attacks and tiny strings while dodging.

God of War is ->
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 12, 2010, 08:07:29 PM
Who is Tsubaki? The only Tsubaki I know from GAF off the top of my head is Sanjuro Tsubaki and this isn't him is it?

Bayonetta IS a combo game though. But I am curious to know what games he considers high-brow if combo games are low-brow. Personally I find skill-based games to be as high-brow as it gets.

There's another Tsubaki.  I'm sure Drinky and lyte edge would know who it is, he used to post under the handle MoonPrince back in the rec.games.video.* Usenet days.

He chats with Himu and duckroll all the time on IRC so they would know who he is as well.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 12, 2010, 08:08:01 PM
The magic bar is only for torture attacks and some accessories (one of them allows you to activate it with magic and it will absorb some hits for you). You can only equip two accessories though; honestly I have no idea what that third slot is for. And the production models for weapons only allow you to equip them on both your hands and feet (very lame).

It doesn't NEED to be a combo game, just like DMC doesn't, but it's really how it's meant to be played in order to score well.

The third slot is for when you're in easy/very easy mode, to equip the Marionette accessory.

Bebpo, the magic bar is for torture attacks and when you equip other accessories, as using most of them costs magic.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 13, 2010, 12:42:17 AM
Hmm, I like the rosary accessory combined with RT+back for skipping cutscenes.  Makes levels quick.  The only thing is that the rosary counter attack is pretty weak on some enemies and then you're like "damn, I could've done way more damage in witch time >_<"  But I guess it's good for getting ready for infinite climax.

Just finished the first real boss on hard mode.  Been pretty good so far, hardest part was the Jeanee fight at the start of ch.3.  I suck at reacting to her finger snap summons quick enough.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 13, 2010, 05:55:02 AM
I want to find the guy who decided that Chapter 14 was a good idea and kick him in the crotch repeatedly until his balls are bluer than Malek's.

Hey Kamiya, if shitty on-rails shooters were my thing, I would buy a fucking Wii.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: chronovore on February 13, 2010, 07:12:07 AM
Weren't you supposed to be working on more productive ways to express your anger, or was that only toward people who are actually participating in the conversation?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 13, 2010, 07:57:28 AM
I want to find the guy who decided that Chapter 14 was a good idea and kick him in the crotch repeatedly until his balls are bluer than Malek's.

Hey Kamiya, if shitty on-rails shooters were my thing, I would buy a fucking Wii.

It was a Space Harrier parody, dude.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 13, 2010, 08:46:37 AM
Parodies shouldn't take themselves so seriously and make you fight boss after boss with only one checkpoint in the whole thing. And it was just bursting at the seams with poor design decisions, like your ship being able to block your view of incoming projectiles, the dodge buttons spinning the screen 360 degrees coupled with the overwhelming number of times you're forced to use the dodge button (I'd never had motion sickness because of a game until now), dodging the green projectiles not triggering Witch Time and a host of other things.

Worst level of an otherwise good game ever.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 13, 2010, 09:21:40 AM
It's so much easier than the real Space Harrier...it boggles the mind how anyone could have trouble in that section.

[youtube=560,345]34JbhA154To[/youtube]
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 13, 2010, 09:32:04 AM
To be fair, Space Harrier is a pretty shitty game.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Green Shinobi on February 13, 2010, 09:37:17 AM
I just couldn't handle the spinning. That was the main problem I had. If not for that, I wouldn't have had much trouble at all.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 12:40:00 AM
Doing my hard run and the chapter XI boss (three heads/three tongues) was pretty hard!  Otherwise hard mode has been pretty easy/doable, but something about getting hits in while dodging the spiked tentacles and the main face was really tough.  Not looking forward to fighting him again later on!   :-\

Also doing a 2nd run makes me really hate the QTEs all the time.  I'm trying to speedrun (for the under 3 hour weapon) through the game and I have to keep mashing X all the time >_<  Also the motorbike stage is zzzzz and I'm assuming the harrier stage will be boring too.  They should let you skip those parts on higher difficulty replay! 

This hard run has been a lot of fun though.  Probably most fun game I've played this year besides KH BBS.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 12:41:30 AM
Oh and in Infinite Climax do you still get Witch Time if you parry at the last moment?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 15, 2010, 01:39:16 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 02:41:52 AM
 :'(

Will definitely give it a shot after finishing hard, but I think that may be too hardcore for me. 
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 15, 2010, 02:51:06 AM
Use the Devil Rosary accessory.  That'll help you get used to not having Witch Time.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 15, 2010, 02:52:22 AM
The Moon sucks... use the Evil Rosary period
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 02:52:56 AM
I did use it for a while but the little counter explosion thing didn't do much damage to enemies so I took it off and just kill them in witch time after parrying.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 15, 2010, 02:55:24 AM
It clears enemies with that explosion, very good crowd control. It's also extremely useful against Jeanne, etc. when you dodge dodge dodge and you make those orbs.

No wonder you SUCK, enjoy your Stone awards
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 03:02:03 AM
lol

I don't know any good combos!  So I just do attacks and parry/dodging when enemies counter (which is all the time) and then finish them off in witch time.  I keep the combo meter going, but I don't do much damage until I get witch time and can do moves with big windup since I won't get hit out of them.  Without witch time I should be able to keep alive and dodge/parry incoming stuff, but I just dunno how I'll do good damage. 

What is your main weapon setup mr. bayonetta-master?  I use sword/kilgore or sword/claws
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 15, 2010, 07:51:58 AM
Sword + Durga
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on February 15, 2010, 08:09:47 AM
The Moon is awesome on Hard. Makes Gracious and Glorious very easy to kill, because if you get a perfect parry off them you still get witch time. Not terribly useful on Inf. Climax though, I just used it to reflect projectiles from certain bosses.

Are you doing Dodge Offsets bebpo? It's one of the most important aspects to Bayonetta's combat.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 10:45:22 AM
Yeah, I love parrying in this game.  Though sometimes because of the 3d camera I can't tell exactly which direction it wants me to push.

I'm not using dodge offset as much as I'd like.  I use it when I'm actually holding down a button when an attack comes in, but I don't tend to hold down attacks except for the last hit, usually I'm just tap tap tap so when I see an attack coming it's like tap, dodge instead of hold, dodge.  Doesn't make that big of difference though because like I said I don't know any good combos!

I mainly do mixups of PKP and PPKK and PKK and one of the short chains that floats (although I can only lift&juggle certain enemies) -> A+B -> juggle a bit -> hold K to bring them down
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 15, 2010, 01:19:55 PM
If you plan on tackling Non stop climax, then I definitely recommend getting down Dodge Offset.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 15, 2010, 01:20:59 PM
You definitely do not need Dodge Offset. Evil Rosary and you are set.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on February 15, 2010, 02:38:08 PM
You definitely do not need Dodge Offset. Evil Rosary and you are set.
This is true. I got lazy about learning dodge offset. Didn't use it once while playing through infinite climax. I'm guessing you might need to know it if you're trying to platinum infinite climax though.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 04:34:22 PM
Yeah I don't care about grades too much.  Continuing if you mess up > the time it takes to hit start -> title -> continue

I dunno, will try infinite climax and see how it goes.  I'm already getting way more play out of this than I do with the Ninja Gaiden games.  I beat those each once on normal and nevered touch them again.  NG Black especially was hard enough as is on normal.  Bayonetta is super fun though and not too hard so like the DMC games I want to go as far as I can in the difficulties. 

Can anyone recommend some good easy to execute combos that do good damage besides PKP?  With the lightning claw I do that as PK(charge explosion)P which does pretty good damage but I need to be in witch time for the K(charge) because I just sit there and will get hit out of it.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on February 15, 2010, 05:56:09 PM
Continue using that combo if you like, but Dodge Offset with it. So YB(hold)RYR. That right there is essentially broken -- you can beat every difficulty without much trouble just doing that single move. As for other good moves, I liked to use this combo often: P<-P(hold for the lift), PPKP, A B, PPPKKK. I think that's how it went, to  be honest I've nearly forgotten how to play and it's only been a month since I PP'd everything. :-\

PP (delay) P is good, PPK(K/K/P) is good (and very very useful against Jeanne). A couple of the angel arms are pretty useful as well, like the staff and bow. Pick them up and mash B with the bow to annihilate everyone you see or B with the staff to do this spin attack that also destroys everyone around you (they also give you tons of points + multiplier).

Bayonetta's combo system is very free-form, so just experiment really. Lots of moves wind up launching the enemy and from there he's all yours. It's not as combo focused as DMC (more so linking every enemy together during the fight for the multiplier), so really just do whatever works. Take a look at the combo list next time you play and just use short attacks that end with a weave, like PKP, PPKKK, PP . P, etc.

Also, you might want to use the fire durgas, since that will leave a bomb in the air for a few seconds with its hold attack
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 15, 2010, 07:51:45 PM
The problem I had with the fire bomb is the same problem I had with the rosary with some enemies: it sits for a second and the enemy moves and it doesn't hit them.

Good info though, will try that.  I wish I could get better at juggling because if you juggle you can actually finish your combo (at least on normal/hard) without the enemy combo breaking it.  Whereas when I do ground combos the enemy every few seconds combo breaks it and counters and I gotta dodge or parry and then start over again (which is why I need to get the dodge offset down). 

I'm used to fighting games & DMC where once you start a combo the enemy is stuck in it and that's why it's a combo!
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on February 15, 2010, 08:21:35 PM
Use the X button to keep combos going. It serves no other purpose.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 16, 2010, 04:40:17 PM
Got my Bayonetta tshirt today
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on February 16, 2010, 05:36:33 PM
How is it? Does it feel cheap? I didn't bother sending in a pic.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2010, 04:14:55 PM
today is the day I buy Bayonetta. I will spam this thread asking for tips from the pros here

god Im looking forward to playing something other than Peggle.

demi I double dog dare you to 200/200 Peggle XBLA
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 17, 2010, 04:57:39 PM
today is the day I buy Bayonetta. I will spam this thread asking for tips from the pros here

god Im looking forward to playing something other than Peggle.

demi I double dog dare you to 200/200 Peggle XBLA

Peggle sucks... no thanks
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on February 17, 2010, 04:57:58 PM
How is it? Does it feel cheap? I didn't bother sending in a pic.

It's decent I think. It's a "Jerseez" brand
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2010, 06:27:56 PM
I got the "Climax" edition and I think I stuffed up. Art book is nice, but the CD is only 6 tracks long  :( and now Im stuck with a crappy Scarborough Fair gun model. It might look good on a shelf with lots of other toys but I dont have any crap like that.

Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Junpei the Tracer! on February 17, 2010, 07:03:28 PM
Nope. Cept the puzzle stuff.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 17, 2010, 08:15:59 PM
Sceneman, I would kill for that Scarborough Fair gun model. :rock
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2010, 08:51:20 PM
where do you live? I'll post it to you if youre that keen. PM me
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 17, 2010, 08:52:51 PM
I wish! I'm in Japan, the shipping would be killer. :(
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2010, 08:58:46 PM
Its already boxed up and its pretty light, I cant see it being too expensive, I send crap to the US for secret santa and its never too bad. Is postage to Japan quite a bit more? I live in New Zealand so Japan is closer to me than the US.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 17, 2010, 09:00:36 PM
Oh, I didn't know you were in NZ!  If you're willing to send it to me, I will love you forever.  :heartbeat

I'll PM you my address when I get home. :rock
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 17, 2010, 09:04:28 PM
yeah I just checked the shipping costs and its 10 bucks NZ (like 6 US), its no sweat.

Ive had heaps of sweet hookups from this forum (like Muckhole posting me that pandora battery modding thing all the way from Canada), so what goes around comes around eh?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Ichirou on February 17, 2010, 09:05:24 PM
Sweetness.  Thank you so much!
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 17, 2010, 09:48:25 PM
I dock this game for putting the best fight in the game at the end of 10 MINUTES OF SHITTY MINI-GAME.  So if I ever want to replay the fight because it's awesome I would have to sit through that entire missile crap.  Which basically means I'm never replaying that fight for fun.  :\

The last Jeanne fight was so good on hard.  Only thing I don't like is the furious mashing it requires during the constant QTEs or you get hit and take damage  :'(  My thumb is deaddddd
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Post by: Bebpo on February 17, 2010, 11:33:16 PM
finished my hard run.  fuuuuuun.  Really really awesome game.
After my normal run I thought it was great, but not really up there with DMC3/4 & NG1/Black/2
But on hard without the cutscenes and with 100x better battles (faster, actual challenge) it was awesome.  Hard should have been the starting difficulty.  But then I said the same thing about DMC4.  Would definitely put it over NG2 and the Dante half of DMC4.  Need to replay Nero half of DMC4 again on hard to see which I still like better, but I have a feeling I like them about the same.  Bayonetta would be almost a perfect action game on replays (without the cutscenes) if it just didn't have the stupid vehicle levels and there wasn't so much QTE.  Game also needs a boss rush mode.

Questions:
1.  I just missed the 3 hour mark on this run.  Can I just go back and replay a level or two that I spent too long on and get better times to bring the total under 3 hours?  Or do I have to start from the beginning and do another entire run in under 3?

2.  How do you use the compact mirror.  I have all these halos at this point and I'm not interested in any accessories (have rosary & moon), so I'm just spending it all on costumes.  I bought the mirror and a bullet but I can't figure out where to equip it?

3.  Do you get hearts and moon pearls from the Altheim (or whatever it's called)?  I've yet to try any of the challenges and my HP and MP is REALLY SHORT (less than 1.5 bars for both).  I figure if I'm going to do infinite climax I should max out my bars first?

kinda random but I really like the boss music for the surfboard boss.  It's the most epic track in the game IMO.
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Post by: Beezy on February 17, 2010, 11:45:24 PM
1. Yes to the first part.
2. Press RB at the chapter menu.
3. Yes
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Post by: demi on February 17, 2010, 11:55:06 PM
Infinite Climax is the same thing as hard mode, except no witch time. Nothing is changed.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on February 17, 2010, 11:55:21 PM
Just tried infinite climax and these bazillion guns.  Guns were boring, but IC is fun!  Rosary does indeed do great crowd control :o

Are the last 2 weapons cool?  As in not just being stronger but actually having fun unique moves so they play differently?
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Post by: Beezy on February 18, 2010, 12:17:51 AM
Pillow Talk is just a stronger sword. I haven't unlocked the gunchucks yet (100 chapters :-\), but they look really cool and play differently from what I've seen in the youtube vids.
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Post by: iconoclast on February 18, 2010, 01:20:58 AM
The nunchuks are pretty good. I used them during my Hard and NSIC Pure Platinum runs because they are the only weapon (off the top of my head anyway) that hit-stuns enemies who are enraged. I found them very useful for that.

Infinite Climax is the same thing as hard mode, except no witch time. Nothing is changed.

I'm pretty sure some of the Alfheims are different between Hard and NSIC.
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Post by: Bebpo on February 18, 2010, 01:50:27 AM
Enraged!

That reminds me.  I've yet to press the taunt button  :lol
What's the benefit of taunting and enraging enemies?
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Post by: iconoclast on February 18, 2010, 02:11:53 AM
They give 1.5x as many points, are more aggressive, and regular attacks (aside from the nunchuk's) won't interrupt them, only weaves IIRC. Actually, I think <-P still lifts them - almost forgot about that. Taunting also keeps your combo going and is essential for scoring well. There's also the Gaze of Despair accessory, which auto-enrages every enemy all the time. I don't play without it. :smug

Different weapons have different taunts too. One time I accidentally did the Durga taunt right before the final climax on Ch.11... made me :lol
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Post by: The Sceneman on February 18, 2010, 07:21:09 PM
jokes on ichi, I actually Fed-Ex'ed him a KFC bucket full of horseshit  :-*
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Post by: Ichirou on February 18, 2010, 09:46:35 PM
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

That was my work address too. :(
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 19, 2010, 02:50:14 PM
holy shit this game is amazing!
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: chronovore on February 22, 2010, 05:37:10 AM
jokes on ichi, I actually Fed-Ex'ed him a KFC bucket full of horseshit  :-*
:lol

Of course, if it's KFC, how can you tell the diff between horseshit and their regular chicken?
:bow Popeye's :bow2
spoiler (click to show/hide)
:patel
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Post by: The Sceneman on February 22, 2010, 05:55:35 PM
unfortunately KFC is the only fried chicken chain restaurant we have here. I like their burgers.

Up to Chapter 7 on Normal now. Damn my gaming skills need honing pretty hard, been playing too much easy crap like Mass Effect and stuff. Getting the hang of the combos  (I cant believe how many moves there are!) and getting pretty good at crowd control, juggles etc. but certain enemies are still owning me. Having real trouble with those fire and lightning guys with the extendable claws, theyre pretty unpredictable and their attacks damage pretty hard. Just gotta man up and get better. Shotguns good at knocking them back and setting them up for a combo Ive found.

Characters are a little hit and miss. I like Bayonetta and Rodin, Cereza is pretty cute and charming. Luka is annoying as hell and Jeanne is a bit boring.

But yeah, awesome, awesome game. Really looking forward to working hard and mastering it :)
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Post by: Ichirou on February 22, 2010, 08:19:12 PM
I need to go back to it and finish Infinite Climax.

Mass Effect is easy? ???
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Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2010, 03:12:18 AM
I dunno.  Bayonetta is easy but ME1 was pretty easy too once you got amazingly overpowered early on.  'Splosion Man is harder than both!
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on February 23, 2010, 04:25:17 AM
splosion man is pretty easy imo, I dunno I guess some games are harder for others
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Post by: The Sceneman on March 09, 2010, 04:48:03 PM
finally got back to playing this, OMG, I just did the level where the thread title came from... SO. AWESOME. Loved the Space Harrier remixed music, and the Outrun remix on the bike level. Nothing beats Sega fanservice! (actually a lot of things do but you know what I mean)
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Post by: Bebpo on May 09, 2010, 05:47:46 PM
Eh, it runs really good 95% of the time.  The tearing is a little sucky, but it's not too frequent and it usually holds 60fps.

It's not the best looking game out there, but I think it looks more than fine.
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Post by: demi on May 09, 2010, 06:02:22 PM
The tearing is only really bad on Chapter 2 or 3 - the village level
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Post by: Ichirou on May 09, 2010, 08:48:35 PM
The tearing is only really bad on Chapter 2 or 3 - the village level

Yeah, it's very weird, that's the only place I noticed it, and it doesn't seem to be a particularly technically demanding area.
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Post by: Bebpo on May 09, 2010, 10:43:24 PM
life/magic bar extensions.

I never did them, not my kind of thing.  Didn't do the trials in DMC or NG either.  I just like to FIGHT in these games.
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Post by: Ichirou on May 09, 2010, 10:55:50 PM
I did a few but was never able to find all of them.  That, all the treasure chests, and infinite climax mode are the only things I'm missing for a perfect 1000 but I dunno if I'll ever bother. :(
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Post by: iconoclast on May 09, 2010, 11:01:33 PM
You usually get a broken witch heart or a broken magic orb, which will increase your health/magic bar if you collect enough. The Alfheims also count as a verse at the end-of-chapter screen, so they're basically required if you are going to play for score or Pure Platinums. That's one of my biggest complaints about the game, since many of the Alfheims are just fucking stupid (jump in the air for 90 seconds herp derp).
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Don Flamenco on May 10, 2010, 12:16:24 AM
I gotta get back to this someday.  Beat hard and needed a long break...
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2010, 01:04:33 AM
So what is the consensus on this game?  Is it anywhere as good as NG or DMC3?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on May 10, 2010, 01:07:57 AM
Is this your first time in this thread? :lol

Best action game since Ninja Gaiden.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on May 10, 2010, 01:11:43 AM
So what is the consensus on this game?  Is it anywhere as good as NG or DMC3?

I don't think it's better than either of those, but it's around the same level give or take.  I'm a DMC fan so I'd put it around the same level as DMC4/NG2 and a notch below DMC3/NG. 

It's absolutely 100% worth playing if you enjoy good action games.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on May 10, 2010, 01:15:46 AM
Bebpo's ranking for Bay is horrible btw. Its combat destroys DMC's, especial 4.
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Post by: demi on May 10, 2010, 01:21:22 AM
DMC4 > Bayo > NG2

Bayo > DMC3 > NG
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on May 10, 2010, 01:38:41 AM
Is this your first time in this thread? :lol

Best action game since Ninja Gaiden.

First time since it came out.  I kind of forgot about the game.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Bebpo on May 10, 2010, 01:39:48 AM
Bebpo's ranking for Bay is horrible btw. Its combat destroys DMC's, especial 4.

DMC3 >>>>>> all other action games ever made!

:rock
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Post by: iconoclast on May 10, 2010, 02:06:42 AM
Overall: NGB > DMC3 >>> Bayo > NG2 >>> DMC4

For pure combat, NG2 is untouchable. But it has lots of problems that drag it down. Same with Bayonetta, but the problems aren't as bad. Bayo is clearly a finished game... Actually, it's the only finished action game this gen...
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Post by: Beezy on May 10, 2010, 02:17:53 AM
DMC4 isn't better than anything, demi. And no DMC game is better than NG. NG2 is questionable thanks to rocket spamming and other lil cheap shit.
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Post by: demi on May 10, 2010, 05:04:40 PM
DMC4 isn't better than anything, demi. And no DMC game is better than NG. NG2 is questionable thanks to rocket spamming and other lil cheap shit.

Pretty sure you're wrong, but ooook Beezy
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Post by: iconoclast on May 10, 2010, 05:05:47 PM
I just acquired the weapon Durga, how do I use the lightning version?

spin the stick and press K or P (whichever you have it equipped to).
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on May 10, 2010, 06:03:13 PM
Some transformations are story based, but I believe you need to buy the crow from the shop. IIRC, the perfumes add little things to the costume if you have certain items equipped. Like if you have the durgas equipped on both her hands and her feet, the perfume will add a cat tail to her and cat ears. It's purely cosmetic. I might be remembering that wrong though, I haven't played in a while.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on May 10, 2010, 07:56:15 PM
Why dont you just play the game?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on May 10, 2010, 08:04:44 PM
Bayonetta is meant to be played multiple times. You cant miss anything.
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Post by: OptimoPeach on May 11, 2010, 12:07:58 AM
Played this for the first time last week. Didn't get a taste of the higher difficulties because my friend is a scrub that hadn't gotten past normal, but (and it might have just been because I was really stoned and had been eating soma all day) I think it was the most fun I've had with a hack n slash/action game this gen. NG2 was a putrid turd that's not even worth a rental, so I won't bother comparing it to that, but I think I'd put it above DMC4 -- and I played the SHIT out of DMC4.

All this time I was putting it off because I was butthurt about the controls being non-configurable, and after 15 minutes I was totally used to them :lol
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Post by: Beezy on May 13, 2010, 04:28:48 PM
Edit: I can't believe I'm saying this, but I liked the game so much that I'm gonna play it again on hard.
The way it was meant to be played. :rock
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: demi on May 13, 2010, 04:40:42 PM
Go for 1000
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Post by: Beezy on May 13, 2010, 05:00:26 PM
They're not hard, some are just tedious. I got bored looking for all the chests and Alfheims.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 13, 2010, 02:15:07 PM
Man this is a good game.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: The Sceneman on June 13, 2010, 09:20:46 PM
It sure is!

And was really well received by western critics, too. Lots of 9/10s. Shame it sold like poop  :(
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 14, 2010, 12:14:58 AM
Has a sequel been announced?
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Post by: demi on June 14, 2010, 12:15:54 AM
No, because you took too long to buy it. Sorry.
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Post by: chronovore on June 14, 2010, 12:30:05 AM
It sure is!

And was really well received by western critics, too. Lots of 9/10s. Shame it sold like poop  :(
It sold over a million. I know that's not great, but it may be enough to ensure a follow-up.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 02, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
I've said some mess about this game in the past.

sooooo forget all that. the last 3rd of the game completely makes up for any shortcomings up to that point and are so mindblistering awesome that it rises this game to godly tier.

game wins the award for best character action game of the year and also the award for most ending, most story, and most ending.

a+++ thumbs up, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 02, 2011, 08:08:29 PM
and now i am awarded with a dance sequence. OK.
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Post by: iconoclast on January 02, 2011, 08:10:28 PM
the song during the dance sequence is the best one in the game

Bayonetta :bow
Bayonetta's OST :bow
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Post by: demi on January 02, 2011, 08:20:57 PM
and now i am awarded with a dance sequence. OK.

yeah it is embarassing. i shut it off then.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 02, 2011, 08:50:20 PM
GUESS I'M NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY ON HARD - OH WELL.
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Post by: Positive Touch on January 02, 2011, 10:46:57 PM
the last fight against jeanne = omg

the whole final level = OMFG

the game's music = wtfits*

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT
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Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 03, 2011, 07:51:23 AM
i just want to apologize to himu-chan i shouldnt have doubted you  :)
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 03, 2011, 12:57:23 PM
Apologize to me, bitch. >:(
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 03, 2011, 01:20:26 PM
for what?
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Himu on January 03, 2011, 01:23:50 PM
i just want to apologize to himu-chan i shouldnt have doubted you  :)

i still haven't beaten it! i'm still playing it! I'm trying to get gold on every chapter before I beat it. I've gotten up to chapter 4 so far.
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Post by: demi on January 03, 2011, 01:27:18 PM
Gold? You should get nothing short of Platinum (PP optional)
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Post by: Himu on January 03, 2011, 01:55:36 PM
yup
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 03, 2011, 02:24:32 PM
for what?
KISS THE RING
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 03, 2011, 02:30:11 PM
u mad?
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Post by: Beezy on January 03, 2011, 02:46:17 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/yxguP.gif)
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: fistfulofmetal on January 03, 2011, 03:11:08 PM
glad i listened to himu and played bayonetta. yup nobody influenced my decision to play this a+++ game. no one at all.

at least... nobody important.
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Post by: maxy on January 09, 2011, 02:29:57 AM
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Bayonetta: The Perfect Witch guide
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Post by: chronovore on January 10, 2011, 01:09:05 AM
Sweet! Thanks, Maxy.
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Post by: Himu on January 10, 2011, 01:52:43 AM
omg Bayonetta just gets better and better. After fiddling with default weapons I'm finally getting into weapon change and it's DMC3 all over again. I especially like how in NG fashion, each weapon has its benefits against specific enemy types. I love how you unlock weapons too. And the side chapters with goals in DMC fashion are great too. Fighting a whole slew of angels with witch time disabled is awesome. :bow

7 hours clocked and I still haven't gone past chapter 4. It's DMC3 all over again for me. I played that game for like 40 hours before beating it because I would replay each chapter a bazillion times until I mastered the game.
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Post by: Beezy on January 10, 2011, 02:49:13 AM
You're not gonna master Bayonetta on normal.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on January 10, 2011, 07:31:13 AM
The Alfheim missions are great until you realize you have to play them every single time you do a scoring run.

Want that glorious Pure Platinum? Jump on these enemies' heads for 5 minutes LOL!
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Post by: Himu on January 10, 2011, 09:38:25 AM
The Alfheim missions are great until you realize you have to play them every single time you do a scoring run.

Want that glorious Pure Platinum? Jump on these enemies' heads for 5 minutes LOL!

omg are you serious?!?!
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Post by: iconoclast on January 10, 2011, 09:53:49 AM
I dont know if you are being sarcastic but yes, the Alfheims count as verses of the chapter and count toward your overall score. If you don't Pure Platinum every verse in a chapter, you can't get a Pure Platinum medal at the end.

I hate the Alfheims that don't involve normal combat. Having to do them eeeevery time I want to play the game sucks,  and it really puts me off from playing the game any more than I already have. I'll still Pure Platinum every difficulty with every character eventually though. Would've done it by now if it weren't for the vehicle missions and the Alfheims...
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Post by: Madrun Badrun on January 10, 2011, 01:02:24 PM
Ya it was the Alfheims that put me off from doing a Platinum run,  Fuck staying in the air for 60 seconds.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: Beezy on January 10, 2011, 01:45:17 PM
I never finished finding all the alfheims and chests. That's the only reason why I don't have 1000.
Title: Re: Welcome to my fantasy zone. Get Ready! (Bayonetta)
Post by: iconoclast on January 10, 2011, 02:16:54 PM
Well you can still get a Platinum medal at the end if you skip the Alfheims and hidden verses, it's the Pure Platinum that requires you to play every fight.