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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: radioheadrule83 on November 07, 2009, 04:07:13 PM

Title: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: radioheadrule83 on November 07, 2009, 04:07:13 PM
Its November 7th, if I recall rightly this isn't out in America til the 15th and its not out in PAL territories until the 20th?

A fecked up version that crashes after about 10 minutes has hit the webs, and a 1:1 copy is likely leaking tonight.

Kinda funny too as I just read this as well:

Quote from: Iwata
“As for the piracy itself, it is said to be hard to precisely figure out the total impact as it is done underground. But I think I can declare that software piracy impacts all video game platforms today.”

Not PS3, Satoru!

Quote from: Iwata
Iwata went on to detail he ways in which Nintendo is attempting to fight the battle.
“As for specific measures, we have two ways – technological and legal measures,” Iwata explained.

“They tend to become a cat-and-mouse chase. As the piracy itself is underground, someone somewhere finds out the solution to evade our measures. When we shut one hole of the mice, they have dug a new one somewhere else.

“We have acknowledged that this is an endless battle, and we believe the best measure is to keep fighting it technologically and legally.

"As for the details of specific measures, I'll refrain from disclosing them here, as this conversation will be public online and the pirates will be able to find. I will however promise to keep acting legally and technologically, with patience.”

DS and Wii are two of the most Pirated systems I've ever seen, and here we have their flagship title for the holiday leaping onto torrent sites over a week early. Nintendo need to slap their ninjas, they be slackin.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 07, 2009, 04:09:29 PM
Sweet, I will test it out with my new USB drive
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 07, 2009, 04:15:34 PM
Interesting...seems like 1st party nintendo games always leak. 

Speaking of which, how hard is it to hack a wii?  Need to buy anything external or can you go to EBgames, buy a used wii, and do it yourself.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: iconoclast on November 07, 2009, 04:17:27 PM
Interesting...seems like 1st party nintendo games always leak. 

Speaking of which, how hard is it to hack a wii?  Need to buy anything external or can you go to EBgames, buy a used wii, and do it yourself.

Easier than a PSP. All you need is an SD card and Twilight Princess. Though I did that a while ago so I don't know if there's other methods out there these days.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 07, 2009, 04:18:43 PM
Galaxy got leaked early too and it still sold a lot. Nintendo games still sell regardless...
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 07, 2009, 04:21:47 PM
If anyone can provide a link to a good tutorial, I'd appreciate it. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 07, 2009, 05:13:14 PM
It's a shitty rip that won't work on USB loaders and read errors display after about 20 to 30 minutes. 

@ Kranz: This is what I used to mod my Wii (http://www.mikeandheth.com/games/109-store-and-load-usb-wii-system-menu-4.html).  It took me about ~2 hours and that was partly due to me screwing up once.  I can only verify that it will work on FW 4.0 and nothing beyond that.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 07, 2009, 05:37:13 PM
Cool.  I'm more curious if the retail one is going to come with DELETE YOUR HAX firmware requirement, cause I actually like buying Mario games but I don't want it to not play on my hacked wii or screw with my hax.  I figure if there's any game Nintendo will use to mess with people's wii's through forced upgrade requirements it'll be NSMB Wii and Galaxy 2.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 07, 2009, 05:44:35 PM
Any Wii hack that takes more than 10 minutes would not be worth it for me. I'd bootleg punch out for an hour and then I'd go back to not turning it on.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Third on November 07, 2009, 06:09:51 PM
Tested it hours ago.
Doesn't work. Bad dump.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 07, 2009, 06:32:44 PM
Any Wii hack that takes more than 10 minutes would not be worth it for me. I'd bootleg punch out for an hour and then I'd go back to not turning it on.

that's what I'm feeling.  I'm like "hmm, I can get a cheap wii and games for free" then I give up because there are so few games I even care to try...and they're all rehashes of stuff I played years ago.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Trent Dole on November 07, 2009, 10:52:20 PM
Eh, I can wait a week.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: chronovore on November 09, 2009, 07:34:08 AM
Yeah, I'd heard hacking the Wii was dirt simple but likely to brick it in the long run. I'm just going to stick with US releases; I am entirely uninterested in running pirated games, I just want to play stuff from outside my region.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: magus on November 09, 2009, 11:16:44 AM
just chiming in to say that it wasn't a bad rip but an AP measure and it seems they found a workaround
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 09, 2009, 11:37:45 AM
Chinese hackers :rock

And the game is only like 300mb too.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 12:13:54 PM
I can't get it to work. :(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Third on November 09, 2009, 12:41:23 PM
The game works now.

Use Wiiscrubber and replace the main.dol with this:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zy0im2ntvyg

On world 3 now. Game is ok.

I used neogamma 7.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
-motion controls suck
-music sucks
-core gameplay is awesome.  i will 100% this
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2009, 02:22:36 PM
I actually quite like the music other than the main overworld theme.  The castle theme is cool.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 09, 2009, 02:46:11 PM
Playing it off a DVD-R doesn't work.   :'(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 09, 2009, 03:26:51 PM
Quote
On the eve of Modern Warfare 2's release, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime is throwing the gauntlet. He says New Super Mario Bros Wii will outsell either the PS3 or Xbox 360 version of Modern Warfare 2.

"Now, you've got to give me the entire holiday selling season, right, so let's take it all the way through the January NPD data," Fils-Aime told GameTrailers TV. "Yes. I'll take that... I'll put that stake in the ground."

MW2 publisher Activision, meanwhile, thinks their game could be the best-selling title of all time. Even if MW2 doesn't reach that milestone, it's still a hell of a game to pit your product against. New Super Mario Bros. Wii comes out on November 15th while MW2's out tomorrow.

:rofl
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 03:34:44 PM
It probably will.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2009, 03:35:14 PM
He saved himself with the small print "either"

Combined sales of the two & PC...lolloololol no.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
btw the controls feel even floatier and looser than nsmb ds.  it's not game ruining or anything, but it feels awkward.  wall jumps are particularly bad since you don't seem to able to actually wall jump immediately after you hug on a wall, it is like you have to wait a few frames to have the "cling" animation come out before you can actually wall jump
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 09, 2009, 03:41:55 PM
NSMB Wii will easily sell more than MW2 PS3. Probably not PC or 360 though.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 03:43:23 PM
The PC version of MW2 is going to sell like shit.  I think that for November the sales figures will be MW2 360 > NSMB Wii > MW2 PS3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MW2 PC
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 09, 2009, 03:45:09 PM
Everyone's saying they won't buy it because of the dedicated server nonsense, but at the end of the day it's MW2 and gamers are pathetic.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Third on November 09, 2009, 04:09:54 PM
Playing it off a DVD-R doesn't work.   :'(

It does for me. Just replace the main.dol, burn it and use the neogamma 7 loader.

I really can't play this game for a long period of time. Gets boring so fast. I guess I'm tired of the formula. Currently at world 4, and I don't think I'll be tounching this for a long time.
The graphics really suck, gameplay is good but eventually boring, music is very mediocre. A 7 from EDGE sounds like a good score so far.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 09, 2009, 04:10:07 PM
NSMB sold about 20 million copies,  its doable in the long run.  But by january?  hmmm.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 09, 2009, 04:11:05 PM
Quote
On the eve of Modern Warfare 2's release, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime is throwing the gauntlet. He says New Super Mario Bros Wii will outsell either the PS3 or Xbox 360 version of Modern Warfare 2.

"Now, you've got to give me the entire holiday selling season, right, so let's take it all the way through the January NPD data," Fils-Aime told GameTrailers TV. "Yes. I'll take that... I'll put that stake in the ground."

MW2 publisher Activision, meanwhile, thinks their game could be the best-selling title of all time. Even if MW2 doesn't reach that milestone, it's still a hell of a game to pit your product against. New Super Mario Bros. Wii comes out on November 15th while MW2's out tomorrow.

:rofl

 ???

NSMB sold around 20 million units.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: ManaByte on November 09, 2009, 04:13:39 PM
Everyone's saying they won't buy it because of the dedicated server nonsense, but at the end of the day it's MW2 and gamers are pathetic.

The only PC people who will buy MW2 are gullible idiots who buy a PC from Best Buy and the peon at the store tells them they need to have MW2 on their new Acer with integrated Intel graphics.

PC FPS fans are playing Valves games and waiting for Bad Company 2 in March.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 09, 2009, 04:17:32 PM
:lol Whatever you say dude.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 09, 2009, 04:21:05 PM
Does this game have charm? Bebpo wants to know
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 04:21:43 PM
It has some charm but is sorely lacking in the whimsical area.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 09, 2009, 04:24:01 PM
Is it as hard as Contra?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 04:26:12 PM
Not even close.  I have over 30 lives at the end of world 1 and got nearly every gold coin on my first try.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 09, 2009, 04:26:47 PM
Is the game balanced for lean?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 09, 2009, 04:27:02 PM
Quote
On the eve of Modern Warfare 2's release, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime is throwing the gauntlet. He says New Super Mario Bros Wii will outsell either the PS3 or Xbox 360 version of Modern Warfare 2.

"Now, you've got to give me the entire holiday selling season, right, so let's take it all the way through the January NPD data," Fils-Aime told GameTrailers TV. "Yes. I'll take that... I'll put that stake in the ground."

MW2 publisher Activision, meanwhile, thinks their game could be the best-selling title of all time. Even if MW2 doesn't reach that milestone, it's still a hell of a game to pit your product against. New Super Mario Bros. Wii comes out on November 15th while MW2's out tomorrow.

:rofl

 ???

NSMB sold around 20 million units.

DS versions of titles sell more than their Wii counterparts.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 04:28:25 PM
Is the game balanced for lean?

You have to lean your arms when you are on the tilt platforms.  I guess the answer is yes? ???
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 09, 2009, 04:29:31 PM
Quote
On the eve of Modern Warfare 2's release, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime is throwing the gauntlet. He says New Super Mario Bros Wii will outsell either the PS3 or Xbox 360 version of Modern Warfare 2.

"Now, you've got to give me the entire holiday selling season, right, so let's take it all the way through the January NPD data," Fils-Aime told GameTrailers TV. "Yes. I'll take that... I'll put that stake in the ground."

MW2 publisher Activision, meanwhile, thinks their game could be the best-selling title of all time. Even if MW2 doesn't reach that milestone, it's still a hell of a game to pit your product against. New Super Mario Bros. Wii comes out on November 15th while MW2's out tomorrow.

:rofl

 ???

NSMB sold around 20 million units.

DS versions of titles sell more than their Wii counterparts.

Yes, DS is another story.  I don't expect this to happen, on the Wii, by January.  That's what's laughable.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2009, 04:30:32 PM
Quote
On the eve of Modern Warfare 2's release, Nintendo of America president Reggie Fils-Aime is throwing the gauntlet. He says New Super Mario Bros Wii will outsell either the PS3 or Xbox 360 version of Modern Warfare 2.

"Now, you've got to give me the entire holiday selling season, right, so let's take it all the way through the January NPD data," Fils-Aime told GameTrailers TV. "Yes. I'll take that... I'll put that stake in the ground."

MW2 publisher Activision, meanwhile, thinks their game could be the best-selling title of all time. Even if MW2 doesn't reach that milestone, it's still a hell of a game to pit your product against. New Super Mario Bros. Wii comes out on November 15th while MW2's out tomorrow.

:rofl

 ???

NSMB sold around 20 million units.

DS versions of titles sell more than their Wii counterparts.

Mario Kart WII outsold the DS version actually. By about 2 million.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2009, 04:43:18 PM
Not feeling this :\

The sound effects suck
The music sucks
The graphics look blurry at 480i and at 480p they look sharp but jaggy/scanliney?  Is this game even running at 480p?

The gameplay though....I dunno.  It feels "off".  It feels slow and unresponsive.  I can't tell if this is because of the physics and momentum or maybe because this is a PAL rip and since PAL runs slower maybe that's causing it?  (I don't know much about PAL being USA USA).  Anyhow it feels off and I'm not jumping/landing exactly when I want to and where I want to.

The motion control stuff early on is super gimmicky.  It's kinda neat and then after a few seconds is eh.  Having to lift the controller up to lift things is a REALLY BAD IDEA since you still have to hold 1 and it throws them once you let go of 1.

Also the Wii control horizontal has to be one of the most uncomfortable controllers in existance.  No fun playing games like that. 

Was kind of excited for this, now not really interested it playing it :(  The main issue is just how slow the game feels even holding the run button the whole time.  It's so much slower than the old games and Giana Sisters DS.  :'(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2009, 06:57:17 PM
bebpo sucks, game rules

the sound effect suck, wtf?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 06:58:41 PM
I'm liking it.  The first world is easy, but it gets harder later on. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2009, 07:10:42 PM
Game is fuckawesome.  The graphic style still isn't preferable but it looks much better than it did on DS, definitely.  Much more lively and colorful.  Music is, for the most part, pretty strong other than that "bwaa bwaa" bullshit.  The athletic theme :hyper

Best powerup so far: propellor suit.  Shit is fun as fuck.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 09, 2009, 07:16:50 PM
How much whimsy is in the game?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 09, 2009, 07:30:57 PM
Koopa Kids seem like they offer just enough whimsy.  I like that as you approach them a telltale obstacle pops up.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 09, 2009, 07:51:52 PM
derp
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 09, 2009, 07:59:49 PM
The second one. 
Gotta love a nostalgia trip.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 09, 2009, 08:01:12 PM
The second one. 
Gotta love a nostalgia trip.

i think i forgot the definition of whimsy at some point.  had something completely different in mind  :lol
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 08:06:04 PM
Level design is top notch, especially when you go for the gold coins.  I'm loving it.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2009, 08:06:46 PM
When they did the whole Kamek charm animation like Yoshi's Island, nostalgia trip times two <3
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Crushed on November 09, 2009, 08:14:11 PM
omg at this article and the videos: http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1043474p1.html

spoiler (click to show/hide)
And awesome how they actually give you a reason to look for special coins this time (you have to collect them to unlock more and more stages in the extra World 9).
[close]
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 08:16:41 PM
This is the best Wii game since Mario Galaxy.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2009, 08:34:39 PM
That's not really that hard, but it's definitely Nintendo's best outing in a long time.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 09, 2009, 08:37:13 PM
NINTENDO IS BACK BABY YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2009, 08:47:17 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2009, 10:44:04 PM
Ok, I didn't realize you could play with nunchuck.  Controls are 100x better now.

Also 480i is the way to go it seems.  It's more blurry but the blurriness hides the horrible jaggies when it's sharp and the soft look isn't too bad for Mario. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 11:03:55 PM
Trying to get some of these alternate exits is making me ragequit. :maf
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 09, 2009, 11:07:08 PM
Trying to get some of these alternate exits is making me ragequit. :maf

I haven't found one yet.  I'm not that far, but yeah.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 09, 2009, 11:07:52 PM
There is one in world 2 where you have to jump off an enemy and use the propeller to reach a pipe.  I must have died 5 times trying to make that jump and I said 'fuckit' and turned off the Wii.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 09, 2009, 11:22:55 PM
Ok, I didn't realize you could play with nunchuck.  Controls are 100x better now.

Also 480i is the way to go it seems.  It's more blurry but the blurriness hides the horrible jaggies when it's sharp and the soft look isn't too bad for Mario. 

How do you tilt the platforms with the nunchuck btw?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2009, 11:34:54 PM
You still use the remote and tilt that left or right.  Up on the remote still lifts and hops.  But I just find it far more comfortable to play with the nunchuck.

Wiimote + Nunchuck is honestly the most comfortable gaming controller ever.  It's only problem is lack of buttons which means it doesn't work for certain games.  But when it does work it feels great and I love it.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 09, 2009, 11:39:40 PM
The more I play the more I think this is pretty good.  I think it has LOTS and LOTS of flaws for a 2d/2.5d Mario, but it has good and challenging level design that does a great job at ripping off older Mario without feeling like a rehash.

My biggest complaint is the idea of kicking you out of a level every time you die even if you have a checkpoint.  The process of watching the kicked out animation, waking up, hitting A, getting back, and being back to playing takes like 10 seconds or slightly more.  If you're going for the hidden coins/exits where you are going to die a lot this basically makes the game feel like it has a 10 sec loading time after every death which is completely distinguished mentally-challenged for a 2.5d platformer.

I also am just not a big fan of the physics and floatyness.  I'm getting used to it, but I still slide around a bit more than I'd like.  Also the controls are very senstive so you can sometimes accidently duck (this won't be an issue if you're using the d-pad) and go into a slide when you really really don't want to and you can sometimes accidently lift the remote a bit in a chaotic moment and then you'll do a jump spin suddenly out of nowhere which can be very bad.

The power ups and levels and animation are nice.  The turn over mini-game is not as good as the SMB one.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 10, 2009, 01:18:51 AM
How's the save system?  i hate how it works in nsmb ds
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 10, 2009, 01:44:03 AM
It's the same, although you can do a quick save that deletes itself once you reload the file.  I'm personally peeved the lives don't reset after turning the game off. : (
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 10, 2009, 07:54:14 AM
How's the save system?  i hate how it works in nsmb ds

It sucks ass.  You can only save for real after beating a castle, but you can suspend the game at any time.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 10, 2009, 10:53:52 AM
Yeah it's pretty good.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Third on November 10, 2009, 12:00:48 PM
So we're back to the "It's awesome!" you filthy pirates?

It's alright. A sturdy 7 so far.
I remember having more fun with the DS version.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 12:16:17 PM
There's absolutely no way the DS version is better than this, you're crazy.  Game's an mid 8-ish, often floating into 9, mid 9-ish range.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 01:49:34 PM
this game is fucking shit hard
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2009, 01:53:15 PM
this game is fucking shit hard

Yeah it is and that's a great thing.  Just wish it didn't kick you out of the stage because you actually die a lot in this game!
So far I'd give it an 8, but I'm not that far.  I remember liking the DS version better, but again, I'm not that far.

It's definitely not on the level of Galaxy.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 02:11:52 PM
Galaxy is like the best Nintendo game ever, so, yeah.

Shit starts getting increasingly difficult around midway through the second world.  I died 11 times at 2-4  :'(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 10, 2009, 02:13:43 PM
Arent you guys scrubs tho? Be honest. I would destroy you at this game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 02:17:59 PM
I'm not a fantastic gamer, but I consider myself pretty great at Mario games, or at least better than the majority of casual Mario gamers.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: The Fake Shemp on November 10, 2009, 02:21:37 PM
demi will murder you at any game dude :lol
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 02:22:10 PM
I'm not saying he won't  ???
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 10, 2009, 02:23:07 PM
I mean think about it. Archie plays Rock BAnd games - casual

Bebpo plays JRPGs - no motor skills

BrandNew plays nintendo games - casual

I think they are playing up the difficulty, tbh.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 02:25:19 PM
I play all kinds of games, I just don't like being overburdened with information and customization.  Fallout 3's about the level of customization that I can handle, anything further is just too complicated for me.

You know, people don't think you're that cool if you're good at videogames demi.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Crushed on November 10, 2009, 02:26:48 PM
BrandNew, did you have to use the super guide and have the game play itself for you?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 10, 2009, 02:27:02 PM
This game isn't THAT hard.  There are some tricky parts when going for gold coins and one section has annoyed me, but everything else is fairly easy.

I mean think about it. Archie plays Rock BAnd games - casual


I play on expert, thank you very much :smug
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 02:28:55 PM
BrandNew, did you have to use the super guide and have the game play itself for you?

No, but it's popped up for me before.  I'm avoiding it because I've heard that you unlock something if you don't use it.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Crushed on November 10, 2009, 02:39:41 PM
BrandNew, did you have to use the super guide and have the game play itself for you?

No, but it's popped up for me before.  I'm avoiding it because I've heard that you unlock something if you don't use it.

I think it's actually you unlock something if it never even pops up.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 02:40:11 PM
that would be cruel.  I'm fairly certain if you never use it, you get the unlock.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Crushed on November 10, 2009, 02:43:26 PM
http://wii.ign.com/articles/103/1035661p1.html

Quote
Miyamoto joked that he feels a bit of shame whenever the Super Guide block shows up in a level since it only appears when the player fails a certain amount of time. There will be a special icon awarded on the title screen to any player who beats New Super Mario Bros. Wii without revealing a single Super Guide block.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 10, 2009, 02:47:25 PM
wow an icon cool
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 02:47:39 PM
(http://knowyourmeme.com/i/578/original/1234931504682.jpg)

edit: oh it's not even an unlockable.  nvm
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Third on November 10, 2009, 02:55:57 PM
The game is definitely more fun when you play it with someone else. I did a few runs with my nephew and we had a lot of fun.

When you play the game alone = a 7 score
When you play it with someone else = an 8,5 score

PLaying alone is really a bore. I definitely liked the DS game more than this one.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 03:03:55 PM
The platforming of the DS game was nowhere near as refined or well-designed as the stuff going here.  You crazy, sir.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: magus on November 10, 2009, 03:09:57 PM
i'm sorry for the dumb question but is anyone here able to run the game trough the disc channel without any of those homebrew installed loader?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2009, 03:52:20 PM
I mean think about it. Archie plays Rock BAnd games - casual

Bebpo plays JRPGs - no motor skills

BrandNew plays nintendo games - casual

I think they are playing up the difficulty, tbh.

I play action games like NG/DMC and platformers like Maximo and ME!  Action/Platform/RPG is mainly what I play and I think I'm pretty decent at all 3 genre.  Now FPS...lol, I'm awful and get frustrated on normal difficulty on a lot of these FPS; also I have no idea how to play RTS, Strategy games, or Sports games.

NSMB Wii isn't hard like "I want to pass the level" hard at least so far, but if you go for the gold coins they're already getting to the point of "how the fuck do I get that?!" and it's more about figuring out the solution + perfect execution than pure difficulty.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 10, 2009, 04:08:52 PM
can you play with classic controller? that's the one problem I might have.  Playing castlevania rebirth last week reminded me that the Wii remote sideway is the worst.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: twerd on November 10, 2009, 04:12:05 PM
thanks for the impressions you fucking pirates. will get over thanksgiving break
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Third on November 10, 2009, 04:12:15 PM
The platforming of the DS game was nowhere near as refined or well-designed as the stuff going here.  You crazy, sir.

There's absolutely no way the DS version is better than this, you're crazy.  Game's an mid 8-ish, often floating into 9, mid 9-ish range.

LOL

Chill out man. The game just isn't that good. An 8 max.
I've been a huge nfag during the NES and SNES days. And this game really isn't doing shit for me.
Maybe it's the controls, maybe the artstyle, maybe it's the animation...I really don't know. The game just isn't that good.
If this was a no-name flashgame, people like you wouldn't give a shit.

It'll sell well, that's for sure.

i'm sorry for the dumb question but is anyone here able to run the game trough the disc channel without any of those homebrew installed loader?

I can run it through the homebrew channel via neogamma 7. But I totally forgot I also had an ancient Wiichip installed. The combo of homebrew and ancient chip are doing miracles for me..
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 10, 2009, 04:12:25 PM
can you play with classic controller? that's the one problem I might have.  Playing castlevania rebirth last week reminded me that the Wii remote sideway is the worst.

Nope.  The propeller suit requires waggle gimmickry.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 10, 2009, 04:14:05 PM
How's the music? Is it better than the filth on the DS version?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 10, 2009, 04:15:41 PM
How's the music? Is it better than the filth on the DS version?
Terrible.  Nothing is memorable and it still has that dumb "dah dah dah" sound in the tracks.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 10, 2009, 04:17:16 PM
How's the music? Is it better than the filth on the DS version?
Terrible.  Nothing is memorable and it still has that dumb "dah dah dah" sound in the tracks.

Seriously? Disappointment-ton. :/
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 10, 2009, 04:19:39 PM
can you play with classic controller? that's the one problem I might have.  Playing castlevania rebirth last week reminded me that the Wii remote sideway is the worst.

Nope.  The propeller suit requires waggle gimmickry.

well, fuck

i might need to put on that remote condom since it helps a bit when playing in that mode
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 05:18:39 PM
How's the music? Is it better than the filth on the DS version?
Terrible.  Nothing is memorable and it still has that dumb "dah dah dah" sound in the tracks.

I disagree.  The overworld theme isn't all that great, as usual, but the athletic theme, castle theme, underwater themes have all been great.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 10, 2009, 05:19:14 PM
I liked the underwater theme.  That's about it so far.

can you play with classic controller? that's the one problem I might have.  Playing castlevania rebirth last week reminded me that the Wii remote sideway is the worst.

Nope.  The propeller suit requires waggle gimmickry.

well, fuck

i might need to put on that remote condom since it helps a bit when playing in that mode

Use the nunchuck + remote combo.  It's slightly less accurate because it's analogue instead of d-pad, but it's far more comfortable.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 10, 2009, 05:25:18 PM
I hope this game is actually hard. I'm an amazing gamer so I doubt it.  8)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 10, 2009, 07:26:41 PM

My biggest complaint is the idea of kicking you out of a level every time you die even if you have a checkpoint.  The process of watching the kicked out animation, waking up, hitting A, getting back, and being back to playing takes like 10 seconds or slightly more.  If you're going for the hidden coins/exits where you are going to die a lot this basically makes the game feel like it has a 10 sec loading time after every death which is completely distinguished mentally-challenged for a 2.5d platformer.


What the fuck is this shit?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 10, 2009, 07:31:32 PM
It's not that big of a deal.  Bebpo just sux too much

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so di I
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Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 11, 2009, 02:18:14 AM

My biggest complaint is the idea of kicking you out of a level every time you die even if you have a checkpoint.  The process of watching the kicked out animation, waking up, hitting A, getting back, and being back to playing takes like 10 seconds or slightly more.  If you're going for the hidden coins/exits where you are going to die a lot this basically makes the game feel like it has a 10 sec loading time after every death which is completely distinguished mentally-challenged for a 2.5d platformer.


What the fuck is this shit?

When you die you go back to the level select screen.  This was done in case you wanted to equip an item in your stockpile.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 11, 2009, 02:44:59 AM

My biggest complaint is the idea of kicking you out of a level every time you die even if you have a checkpoint.  The process of watching the kicked out animation, waking up, hitting A, getting back, and being back to playing takes like 10 seconds or slightly more.  If you're going for the hidden coins/exits where you are going to die a lot this basically makes the game feel like it has a 10 sec loading time after every death which is completely distinguished mentally-challenged for a 2.5d platformer.


What the fuck is this shit?

When you die you go back to the level select screen.  This was done in case you wanted to equip an item in your stockpile.

It's silly things like this when designers do something they think will be beneficial that turns out to make the game worse.  :\
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 11, 2009, 02:50:10 AM

My biggest complaint is the idea of kicking you out of a level every time you die even if you have a checkpoint.  The process of watching the kicked out animation, waking up, hitting A, getting back, and being back to playing takes like 10 seconds or slightly more.  If you're going for the hidden coins/exits where you are going to die a lot this basically makes the game feel like it has a 10 sec loading time after every death which is completely distinguished mentally-challenged for a 2.5d platformer.


What the fuck is this shit?

When you die you go back to the level select screen.  This was done in case you wanted to equip an item in your stockpile.

That's distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 11, 2009, 02:53:09 AM

My biggest complaint is the idea of kicking you out of a level every time you die even if you have a checkpoint.  The process of watching the kicked out animation, waking up, hitting A, getting back, and being back to playing takes like 10 seconds or slightly more.  If you're going for the hidden coins/exits where you are going to die a lot this basically makes the game feel like it has a 10 sec loading time after every death which is completely distinguished mentally-challenged for a 2.5d platformer.


What the fuck is this shit?

When you die you go back to the level select screen.  This was done in case you wanted to equip an item in your stockpile.

It's silly things like this when designers do something they think will be beneficial that turns out to make the game worse.  :\

It's typical of any Mario with a world map.  Same thing in SMB3.  Same thing in SMW.  Same thing in NSMB.  Why is this a surprise?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 11, 2009, 03:07:11 AM
because anything they can use to rag on the game, they'll use
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: twerd on November 11, 2009, 03:27:16 AM
because anything they can use to rag on the game, they'll use

did you see how BowieZ got banned on GAF??  :lol
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: SantaC on November 11, 2009, 04:40:42 AM
what a shitty game! The music is among the worst I ever heard for a nintendo game and which idiot came up with the idea that you need to waggle your controller for that propeller powerup?!

Why is miyamoto approving this travesty
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Brehvolution on November 11, 2009, 09:32:56 AM
Well, at least it'll outsell Modern Warfare 2.

:smug

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: SantaC on November 11, 2009, 10:20:41 AM
what a shitty game! The music is among the worst I ever heard for a nintendo game and which idiot came up with the idea that you need to waggle your controller for that propeller powerup?!

Why is miyamoto approving this travesty

Do you ever stop bitching about fucking everything?  Fuck, man, you used to be a decent dude to talk to.  These days you're all spite and stupidity.  Did getting banned from NeoGAF fuck you up that badly?

What look around? a lot of people are complaining at this game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2009, 10:43:18 AM
I hope this game outsells MW2 sooo badly!  it deserves it.  Unlike Call of Generic Bald Land Marine, Mario is actually cool and unique.  Reggie threw down the gauntlet and while he may not be right about the first few months, the COD series is sooooo frontloaded and it doesn't have the country of Nippon backing it--it's that crucial Japanese support that will launch Mario ahead in the long run because the Japanese know a good game when they see it.  I'll stand by and support my man Reggie while everyone has a COD circle jerk for the next 2 months before they get bored of it because it's just another dumb FPS.  Maybe if they had some taste, they'd appreciate a good 2D platformer with a whimsical style.  It's because of jerks like them that the 2D platformer is dying, but Nintendo understands the needs of the gamer and aren't all about money and business and stuff so they make them anyway.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 11, 2009, 10:49:58 AM
what a shitty game! The music is among the worst I ever heard for a nintendo game and which idiot came up with the idea that you need to waggle your controller for that propeller powerup?!

Why is miyamoto approving this travesty

Do you ever stop bitching about fucking everything?  Fuck, man, you used to be a decent dude to talk to.  These days you're all spite and stupidity.  Did getting banned from NeoGAF fuck you up that badly?

What look around? a lot of people are complaining at this game.

No, not really.  Only on here, and when you say "bitching," you're referring to the 90% of posters here who don't give two shits and are bitching just for the sake of bitching, in good fun.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: tiesto on November 11, 2009, 10:51:19 AM
I hope this game outsells MW2 sooo badly!  it deserves it.  Unlike Call of Generic Bald Land Marine, Mario is actually cool and unique.  Reggie threw down the gauntlet and while he may not be right about the first few months, the COD series is sooooo frontloaded and it doesn't have the country of Nippon backing it--it's that crucial Japanese support that will launch Mario ahead in the long run because the Japanese know a good game when they see it.  I'll stand by and support my man Reggie while everyone has a COD circle jerk for the next 2 months before they get bored of it because it's just another dumb FPS.  Maybe if they had some taste, they'd appreciate a good 2D platformer with a whimsical style.  It's because of jerks like them that the 2D platformer is dying, but Nintendo understands the needs of the gamer and aren't all about money and business and stuff so they make them anyway.

:bow :bow :bow

spoiler (click to show/hide)
COD games are fucking boring
[close]
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 11, 2009, 10:51:24 AM
what a shitty game! The music is among the worst I ever heard for a nintendo game and which idiot came up with the idea that you need to waggle your controller for that propeller powerup?!

Why is miyamoto approving this travesty

Do you ever stop bitching about fucking everything?  Fuck, man, you used to be a decent dude to talk to.  These days you're all spite and stupidity.  Did getting banned from NeoGAF fuck you up that badly?

What look around? a lot of people are complaining at this game.

Most of us are giving level headed criticism, whereas you are just ranting.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2009, 10:54:19 AM
I hope this game outsells MW2 sooo badly!  it deserves it.  Unlike Call of Generic Bald Land Marine, Mario is actually cool and unique.  Reggie threw down the gauntlet and while he may not be right about the first few months, the COD series is sooooo frontloaded and it doesn't have the country of Nippon backing it--it's that crucial Japanese support that will launch Mario ahead in the long run because the Japanese know a good game when they see it.  I'll stand by and support my man Reggie while everyone has a COD circle jerk for the next 2 months before they get bored of it because it's just another dumb FPS.  Maybe if they had some taste, they'd appreciate a good 2D platformer with a whimsical style.  It's because of jerks like them that the 2D platformer is dying, but Nintendo understands the needs of the gamer and aren't all about money and business and stuff so they make them anyway.

:bow :bow :bow

spoiler (click to show/hide)
COD games are fucking boring
[close]


whatever, it's not even about the games, it's about PR guys.  I'd rather see Reggie win instead of that jerk Bobby Kotick. Bobby is all about money and being a  jerk and Reggie doesn't care about that that much, he just wants to see a smile on my 35 year old face while I'm sitting unemployed in my mom's basement and remembering how much fun I had with Nintendo with the friends I used to have when I was 8.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: MCD on November 11, 2009, 11:02:58 AM
I hope this game outsells MW2 sooo badly!  it deserves it.  Unlike Call of Generic Bald Land Marine, Mario is actually cool and unique.  Reggie threw down the gauntlet and while he may not be right about the first few months, the COD series is sooooo frontloaded and it doesn't have the country of Nippon backing it--it's that crucial Japanese support that will launch Mario ahead in the long run because the Japanese know a good game when they see it.  I'll stand by and support my man Reggie while everyone has a COD circle jerk for the next 2 months before they get bored of it because it's just another dumb FPS.  Maybe if they had some taste, they'd appreciate a good 2D platformer with a whimsical style.  It's because of jerks like them that the 2D platformer is dying, but Nintendo understands the needs of the gamer and aren't all about money and business and stuff so they make them anyway.

:bow :bow :bow

spoiler (click to show/hide)
COD games are fucking boring
[close]
reported.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 11, 2009, 11:05:55 AM
I hope this game outsells MW2 sooo badly!  it deserves it.  Unlike Call of Generic Bald Land Marine, Mario is actually cool and unique.  Reggie threw down the gauntlet and while he may not be right about the first few months, the COD series is sooooo frontloaded and it doesn't have the country of Nippon backing it--it's that crucial Japanese support that will launch Mario ahead in the long run because the Japanese know a good game when they see it.  I'll stand by and support my man Reggie while everyone has a COD circle jerk for the next 2 months before they get bored of it because it's just another dumb FPS.  Maybe if they had some taste, they'd appreciate a good 2D platformer with a whimsical style.  It's because of jerks like them that the 2D platformer is dying, but Nintendo understands the needs of the gamer and aren't all about money and business and stuff so they make them anyway.

:bow :bow :bow

spoiler (click to show/hide)
COD games are fucking boring
[close]


whatever, it's not even about the games, it's about PR guys.  I'd rather see Reggie win instead of that jerk Bobby Kotick. Bobby is all about money and being a  jerk and Reggie doesn't care about that that much, he just wants to see a smile on my 35 year old face while I'm sitting unemployed in my mom's basement and remembering how much fun I had with Nintendo with the friends I used to have when I was 8.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18445000&postcount=571 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18445000&postcount=571)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 11, 2009, 11:35:12 AM
I hope this game outsells MW2 sooo badly!  it deserves it.  Unlike Call of Generic Bald Land Marine, Mario is actually cool and unique.  Reggie threw down the gauntlet and while he may not be right about the first few months, the COD series is sooooo frontloaded and it doesn't have the country of Nippon backing it--it's that crucial Japanese support that will launch Mario ahead in the long run because the Japanese know a good game when they see it.  I'll stand by and support my man Reggie while everyone has a COD circle jerk for the next 2 months before they get bored of it because it's just another dumb FPS.  Maybe if they had some taste, they'd appreciate a good 2D platformer with a whimsical style.  It's because of jerks like them that the 2D platformer is dying, but Nintendo understands the needs of the gamer and aren't all about money and business and stuff so they make them anyway.

:bow :bow :bow

spoiler (click to show/hide)
COD games are fucking boring
[close]


whatever, it's not even about the games, it's about PR guys.  I'd rather see Reggie win instead of that jerk Bobby Kotick. Bobby is all about money and being a  jerk and Reggie doesn't care about that that much, he just wants to see a smile on my 35 year old face while I'm sitting unemployed in my mom's basement and remembering how much fun I had with Nintendo with the friends I used to have when I was 8.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18445000&postcount=571 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18445000&postcount=571)



he's right.  it's all about the whimsy.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Third on November 11, 2009, 12:19:28 PM
Well, I've finished Modern Warfare 2. The game was quite a trainwreck.
Sorta like this one.

The best selling games of this generation are trainwrecks, confirmed.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 11, 2009, 02:27:55 PM
I lost my hat  :'(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: radioheadrule83 on November 12, 2009, 06:51:36 AM
I finally got a chance to play this..

I know a lot of people won't like the music, I do think older Mario music is better than a lot of this synthy sounding stuff, but is anyone finding it quite infectious all the same? I find myself humming the title screen theme, and the main "bwa-bwa" theme song. The main castle theme is really good: shades of the Mario World castle theme, and Zelda LTTP music.

The game shows quite a lot of invention at times. A few examples I can think of:

- freezing fish makes them float to the top of the water and become platforms, freezing a puffer fish will cause it to sink. You can use an unconscious puffer to block a pipe spewing out a stream of bubbles that would otherwise block you. Have Mario games ever played with physics / logic puzzles before? Because this one seems to

- some coins are devilishly placed so you have to have a copter power-up in a level that doesn't necessarily give you one... you have to leap almost to your death and then spin up to safety

- the game hands out 1-ups like candy, but the levels begin to get challenging and begin to take a few back as early as World 2 onwards.

- I loved the castle at the end of World 2. A true homage to the SMB castles that required a specific route

- some of the on-your-toes, wall-kicking platforming from World 2 onwards is more challenging than anything in SMW and SMB3, except maybe the likes of the World 8 airship levels or the Butter Bridge / Soda Lake type stuff. There's lots of moving platforms in this game, everything is moving, and moving in new ways. Lots of tricky jumps and bottomless pits. The enemies on the world-map can be more challenging than the Hammer Bros challenges from SMB3 too.

I'm only at the end of World 3 so far but highlights include: lift to the top of a castle that gradually gets full of Dry Bones and spiked balls, windy level + copter suit, every level that involves sliding on your belly as a penguin.

I watched that video of the final battle that was posted on NeoGAF and it looks awesome. It reminds me of Metroid or something
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running away from bowser as he destroys the castle walls ahead of you, running away as everything collapses rather than fighting him
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Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: SantaC on November 12, 2009, 09:56:20 AM
What look around? a lot of people are complaining at this game.

The difference is that the other people making complaints here at least seem to like *something*.  Every time you pop into a thread on here it's to rage over how much something sucks.  If you hate games so much anymore, save your blood pressure and quit playing them.

WHAT?! The music and waggling are fair points of criticism.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 12, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
The music...not really, no.  It's not amazing, but it's leagues better than NSMB DS.

And the waggle controls are just there, fucking deal with it.  If it honestly bothers you to shake your hands for a miniscule of a second, jesus h christ.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: SantaC on November 12, 2009, 10:40:41 AM
The music...not really, no.  It's not amazing, but it's leagues better than NSMB DS.

And the waggle controls are just there, fucking deal with it.  If it honestly bothers you to shake your hands for a miniscule of a second, jesus h christ.

wow so I am not allowed to complain about it because you think I should deal with it? Possibly the dumbest statement I ever read.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 12, 2009, 10:49:07 AM
The music...not really, no.  It's not amazing, but it's leagues better than NSMB DS.

And the waggle controls are just there, fucking deal with it.  If it honestly bothers you to shake your hands for a miniscule of a second, jesus h christ.

wow so I am not allowed to complain about it because you think I should deal with it? Possibly the dumbest statement I ever read.


rubxqub's alt? lol
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 12, 2009, 11:21:22 AM
The music...not really, no.  It's not amazing, but it's leagues better than NSMB DS.

And the waggle controls are just there, fucking deal with it.  If it honestly bothers you to shake your hands for a miniscule of a second, jesus h christ.

wow so I am not allowed to complain about it because you think I should deal with it? Possibly the dumbest statement I ever read.

It's not you're Nataling it up in this bitch, cuntrag.  It's literally a flick of your wrist.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 12, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
The music...not really, no.  It's not amazing, but it's leagues better than NSMB DS.

And the waggle controls are just there, fucking deal with it.  If it honestly bothers you to shake your hands for a miniscule of a second, jesus h christ.

From what I've read, the waggle controls are mostly annoying because I can't play with the classic controllers I have (I have the normal, SFC and CC Pro).  The wii remote sideways is uncomfortable for people with hands.  And the CC Pro is a really great controller, like, even compared to other controllers and especially for 2D games (great d-pad on the thing)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 12, 2009, 01:30:33 PM
Do you have one of the condoms that they pimp now?  It's much more comfortable holding it like that rather than naked.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 12, 2009, 01:37:51 PM
I was actually looking for it yesterday.  I have about 5 of them (the four I got for free, one from wii sports resort) and I can't find them.  I think I dumped them into the Rock Band box and took it to my garage. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 12, 2009, 01:48:49 PM
That's a shame.  That's actually I think the main reason they made those, to be honest: more comfort for holding the wiimote sideways.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 13, 2009, 06:31:29 AM
Wow this game is colorful. And its actual widescreen. And... it looks good?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 13, 2009, 01:45:50 PM
Indeed.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 13, 2009, 01:49:11 PM
IGN - 8.9 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1044744p1.html)

Gamespot - 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/review.html)

1Up - A+ (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176906&p=44)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 13, 2009, 02:21:56 PM
The Giant Bomb Quick Look of this game makes it look so fun.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 13, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
IGN - 8.9 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1044744p1.html)

Gamespot - 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/review.html)

1Up - A+ (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176906&p=44)

Kinda funny how pretty much everyone says it's a significantly better game than NSMB DS that improves on practically every front, but still give it a lower score.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 13, 2009, 03:52:35 PM
IGN - 8.9 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1044744p1.html)

Gamespot - 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/review.html)

1Up - A+ (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176906&p=44)

Kinda funny how pretty much everyone says it's a significantly better game than NSMB DS that improves on practically every front, but still give it a lower score.

It's always been that way with handheld games.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 13, 2009, 03:59:35 PM
IGN - 8.9 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1044744p1.html)

Gamespot - 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/review.html)

1Up - A+ (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176906&p=44)

Kinda funny how pretty much everyone says it's a significantly better game than NSMB DS that improves on practically every front, but still give it a lower score.

It's always been that way with handheld games.

Pardon?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 13, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
IGN - 8.9 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1044744p1.html)

Gamespot - 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/review.html)

1Up - A+ (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176906&p=44)

Kinda funny how pretty much everyone says it's a significantly better game than NSMB DS that improves on practically every front, but still give it a lower score.

It's always been that way with handheld games.

Pardon?

Handheld games get passes that console games don't and are held to somewhat different standards.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2009, 04:51:51 PM
IGN - 8.9 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1044744p1.html)

Gamespot - 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/review.html)

1Up - A+ (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176906&p=44)

Kinda funny how pretty much everyone says it's a significantly better game than NSMB DS that improves on practically every front, but still give it a lower score.

Did NSMB DS get an A++?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 13, 2009, 05:00:47 PM
IGN - 8.9 (http://wii.ign.com/articles/104/1044744p1.html)

Gamespot - 8.5 (http://www.gamespot.com/wii/action/newsupermariobroswii/review.html)

1Up - A+ (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176906&p=44)

Kinda funny how pretty much everyone says it's a significantly better game than NSMB DS that improves on practically every front, but still give it a lower score.

Did NSMB DS get an A++?

That's one of the few that gave the DS game a lower score, it got 8 from 1UP. Also, IGN gave the DS game a 9.5 and Gamespot gave it a 9. Edge and Ngamer UK also gave higher marks to the DS version.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: magus on November 13, 2009, 05:25:32 PM
gamesradar gave it a 7 if anybody cares
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/new-super-mario-bros-wii/review/new-super-mario-bros-wii/a-20091113105237874009/g-2009060211259405068
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 13, 2009, 05:28:13 PM
gamesradar gave it a 7 if anybody cares
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/new-super-mario-bros-wii/review/new-super-mario-bros-wii/a-20091113105237874009/g-2009060211259405068

47% NEW CONTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/N/New%20Super%20Mario%20Bros%20Wii/Everything%20Else/art/Finished/111309_newsupermario_obs01--article_image.jpg)

I love how they are ragging on traditional Mario stuff being in the game as "not new."  KOOPAS IN A MARIO GAME?!  AIRSHIPS?!  DOUBLE-SIDED FENCES?!  LOL BEEN THERE DONE THAT (Now let me get back to Modern Warfare 2.  That's completely ORIGINAL, son.)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 13, 2009, 05:43:04 PM
Handheld games get passes that console games don't and are held to somewhat different standards.

Ah, right. I misread your post.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 13, 2009, 06:47:54 PM
Hataz gon' hate, this game is a fucking blast and all around well done.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
gamesradar gave it a 7 if anybody cares
http://www.gamesradar.com/wii/new-super-mario-bros-wii/review/new-super-mario-bros-wii/a-20091113105237874009/g-2009060211259405068

47% NEW CONTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(http://static.gamesradar.com/images/mb/GamesRadar/us/Games/N/New%20Super%20Mario%20Bros%20Wii/Everything%20Else/art/Finished/111309_newsupermario_obs01--article_image.jpg)

I love how they are ragging on traditional Mario stuff being in the game as "not new."  KOOPAS IN A MARIO GAME?!  AIRSHIPS?!  DOUBLE-SIDED FENCES?!  LOL BEEN THERE DONE THAT (Now let me get back to Modern Warfare 2.  That's completely ORIGINAL, son.)

ehh, well the game is a rehash for the majority of it.  It's just done very well so it's a lot of fun with good level design.

The only thing I don't like about the level design is too much focus on jumping to your death and propeller hating out to get a gold coin.  It's neat once or twice but they use it A LOT and I'm just not going to bother for most of them because I don't want to bring a hat in and keep it until that point only to mess up and have to go get another hat to try again. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Crushed on November 13, 2009, 07:20:34 PM
If it helps with the coins that are down low above a pit, I saw that throwing Koopa shells at them collects the coins.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 13, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
That was in DS version too. Man I knew they were noobs. OMG ITS SO HARD.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2009, 07:22:57 PM
If it helps with the coins that are down low above a pit, I saw that throwing Koopa shells at them collects the coins.

That *is* actually really helpful and good to know.  I was using that damn hat for everything, lol.

That was in DS version too. Man I knew they were noobs. OMG ITS SO HARD.

I thought we all forgot about the DS version because it sucked?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2009, 07:30:02 PM
Demi:

Gamespot:
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You better bring your butt-stomping A-game to New Super Mario Bros. Wii. Like the best Mario 2D games of decades past, this game is unashamedly and deliciously challenging. It will even test the most seasoned platforming veterans

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You'll need to dig deep and mine whatever experience you have with previous Mario offerings because New Super Mario Bros. Wii is by far the most challenging game in the series for many years (certainly more so than New Super Mario Bros. on the DS or Super Mario Galaxy)

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The game's high difficulty may initially scare off new players

Gamesradar:
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Yes, there a handful of powerfully tough areas we had to try over and over

1up:
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The real strength of NSMB Wii isn't that it incorporates every great idea from 20 years of Mario games into a satisfying whole; it's that it does so in a way that's designed to entice gamers of every skill level [including demi skill]

IGN:
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The game is a great challenge

Anyhow it's not super hard (I haven't died more than 3-4 times in any level so far), but it's definitely challenging if you go for all the coins.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 13, 2009, 07:30:49 PM
You assume I am on the same level as some monkeys
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 13, 2009, 07:38:31 PM
Now that I've gotten used to the physics of the game it's not really hard, it's just enjoyably challenging.  Especially near the later worlds, like world 7 (omg cloud levels  8))

Bebpo sucks though
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2009, 10:39:31 PM
Bebpo sucks though

Says the guy whose not getting the icon on the title screen because the super guide popped up for him.

/hasn't seen super guide pop up :rock
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 13, 2009, 10:43:14 PM
That was mostly due to me fixating on trying to get to what I thought was a secret exit...when it wasn't :'(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 13, 2009, 10:54:11 PM
haha, I'm jk.  :P

I haven't really played the game anyways since the day it got leaked and only did the first two worlds, lol.  Haven't had time, plus at this point I'll just wait for my retail copy to play the rest over thanksgiving.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 14, 2009, 08:08:56 AM
I came in here to say that the quicklook really warmed me to the game, and now I'm seeing that it's not 100% new? wut?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 14, 2009, 08:56:07 AM
From the 1up review

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For every developer or publisher who's ever dreamed of pushing beyond the demographic limitations of "hardcore" or "casual" gamers, here is how you do it.

:lol

Yes, all you need is a universal icon like Mario and you are set! Then rehash over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: SantaC on November 14, 2009, 10:24:32 AM
From the 1up review

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For every developer or publisher who's ever dreamed of pushing beyond the demographic limitations of "hardcore" or "casual" gamers, here is how you do it.

:lol

Yes, all you need is a universal icon like Mario and you are set! Then rehash over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

agreed, and it also applies if you replace Mario with Zelda.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: SantaC on November 14, 2009, 10:26:05 AM
The music...not really, no.  It's not amazing, but it's leagues better than NSMB DS.

And the waggle controls are just there, fucking deal with it.  If it honestly bothers you to shake your hands for a miniscule of a second, jesus h christ.

wow so I am not allowed to complain about it because you think I should deal with it? Possibly the dumbest statement I ever read.

It's not you're Nataling it up in this bitch, cuntrag.  It's literally a flick of your wrist.

but it is much more uncomfortable when holding the controller Horizontal.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 14, 2009, 11:26:47 AM
From the 1up review

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For every developer or publisher who's ever dreamed of pushing beyond the demographic limitations of "hardcore" or "casual" gamers, here is how you do it.

:lol

Yes, all you need is a universal icon like Mario and you are set! Then rehash over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

Jeremy Parish
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: tiesto on November 14, 2009, 11:44:23 AM
No CC support is a bit of a bummer, though...
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2009, 01:15:41 PM
I came in here to say that the quicklook really warmed me to the game, and now I'm seeing that it's not 100% new? wut?

The levels are all new I think.  The "not new" meme just comes from re-used ideas, not actually 1:1 levels.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 14, 2009, 01:16:59 PM
Even though EVERY Mario game is "not new."
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: archie4208 on November 14, 2009, 01:32:59 PM
I'm fairly certain the level themes are the same as NSMBDS too.  Grass world, desert world, ice world and so on.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 14, 2009, 01:43:30 PM
Yeah but they're far more interesting and better designed.  Plus, Super Mario Bros. 3 was nearly exactly the same as well.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 14, 2009, 01:44:21 PM
Nintendo just takes Miyamoto's 30 year old ideas and replicates them in every game they make. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 14, 2009, 03:17:12 PM
So Jeremy Parish loves this game, but panned the Ghouls N' Ghosts PSP game?  LOLZ
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 14, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
Parish is awful and I keep telling GAF that, but to no avail.

The game is A caliber though.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 14, 2009, 03:44:36 PM
This shows the pathetic double standard with one set of games that rehash a lot and another.

Imagine the NSMB Wii reviews if it was anything like Dynasty Warriors:

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Man, all Mario does is jump around n' shit.  I'm practically pressing "A" the entire time I'm playing the game!  Plus it is the same shit over and over.  I played an ice level the last Mario game I played, why are we playing an ice level again!  Nintendo is just lazy.

5.5/10
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Rman on November 14, 2009, 03:57:23 PM
So Jeremy Parish loves this game, but panned the Ghouls N' Ghosts PSP game?  LOLZ
I like Parish, but that review was so off. 

This shows the pathetic double standard with one set of games that rehash a lot and another.

Imagine the NSMB Wii reviews if it was anything like Dynasty Warriors:

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Man, all Mario does is jump around n' shit.  I'm practically pressing "A" the entire time I'm playing the game!  Plus it is the same shit over and over.  I played an ice level the last Mario game I played, why are we playing an ice level again!  Nintendo is just lazy.

5.5/10

I don't get this.  You could say the same thing about Street Fighter, Halo, CoD, etc.  If it's good.  Who cares?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 14, 2009, 04:18:47 PM
Koei's games always get that kind of hate from reviewers.  I see those Musou games as being like a sports title, and those don't get knocked for effectively being the same thing every time.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 14, 2009, 04:20:05 PM
Of course he panned GnG. The difficulty between that and NSMB: Wii is worlds apart.

This shows the pathetic double standard with one set of games that rehash a lot and another.

Imagine the NSMB Wii reviews if it was anything like Dynasty Warriors:

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Man, all Mario does is jump around n' shit.  I'm practically pressing "A" the entire time I'm playing the game!  Plus it is the same shit over and over.  I played an ice level the last Mario game I played, why are we playing an ice level again!  Nintendo is just lazy.

5.5/10

Actually, aside from that Parish review, most people aren't giving it a free pass this time. I feel it's going to be similar to Twilight Princess, how any complaints about the game itself will be an extremely distant second to the fact that it doesn't 'shake things up' enough.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: MoxManiac on November 14, 2009, 08:08:26 PM
Parish sucks ass at games, the GnG review happened after the violent buttramming the game gave to him.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 14, 2009, 10:04:27 PM
Yeah, both NSMB Wii & GnG are great.  The score variation shouldn't be that different between them.  NSBM Wii has a lot more levels though so I'd rate it higher. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)
GnG has better art/music though
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Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 15, 2009, 01:52:09 PM
I bought the game and finally found one of the wii remote condoms.  For some reason it was in a shoebox in my closet. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 15, 2009, 04:46:53 PM
I'm at the second world, first fortress.  99 lives.  :smug

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Koopa on the staircase.
[close]
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 15, 2009, 05:00:31 PM
Game is fun.  I'm not about to make judgments on the first world about difficulty, but I will say it's clever how they had it be a tutorial where each level teaches you about a power/yoshi/level style.  Um, the waggle stuff is kinda worse than I thought.  Picking objects is probably the one that kills me.  In every Mario game, and even with Koopa shells in this game, you pick up and carry items by holding a button and running into it.  For some reason they have you hold 1 and waggle to pick it up.  It's just so awkward to do that, and other various moves.  In the propeller suit I accidentally activate the jump when I didn't mean to.  When you get to the first one of those scale platforms, I expected it to be like a scale, but you just tilt to move it...why? it's a lot of gimmicky stuff so far.  But I do think it's fine how they replace the spin jump moves from World using the waggle for the flowers since there are only two action buttons now.  Also, the game kinda feels really floaty for some reason.  It just takes some getting used to.  I do like that they got rid of the Mario 64 moves that were there in NSMB DS.  The music sucks, btw.

But yeah, the game is fun.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 15, 2009, 05:06:56 PM
Game is fun.  I'm not about to make judgments on the first world about difficulty, but I will say it's clever how they had it be a tutorial where each level teaches you about a power/yoshi/level style.  Um, the waggle stuff is kinda worse than I thought.  Picking objects is probably the one that kills me.  In every Mario game, and even with Koopa shells in this game, you pick up and carry items by holding a button and running into it.  For some reason they have you hold 1 and waggle to pick it up.  It's just so awkward to do that, and other various moves.  In the propeller suit I accidentally activate the jump when I didn't mean to.  When you get to the first one of those scale platforms, I expected it to be like a scale, but you just tilt to move it...why? it's a lot of gimmicky stuff so far.  But I do think it's fine how they replace the spin jump moves from World using the waggle for the flowers since there are only two action buttons now.  Also, the game kinda feels really floaty for some reason.  It just takes some getting used to.  I do like that they got rid of the Mario 64 moves that were there in NSMB DS.  The music sucks, btw.

But yeah, the game is fun.

Yuck.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 15, 2009, 05:08:01 PM
I imagine the way you pick things up was a concession for the multiplayer component.  Players would probably pick each other up on accident if all you had to do was run into them.  Koopa shells you still grab the old fashioned way, however.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Rman on November 15, 2009, 05:37:42 PM
Game is fun.  I'm not about to make judgments on the first world about difficulty, but I will say it's clever how they had it be a tutorial where each level teaches you about a power/yoshi/level style.  Um, the waggle stuff is kinda worse than I thought.  Picking objects is probably the one that kills me.  In every Mario game, and even with Koopa shells in this game, you pick up and carry items by holding a button and running into it.  For some reason they have you hold 1 and waggle to pick it up.  It's just so awkward to do that, and other various moves.  In the propeller suit I accidentally activate the jump when I didn't mean to.  When you get to the first one of those scale platforms, I expected it to be like a scale, but you just tilt to move it...why? it's a lot of gimmicky stuff so far.  But I do think it's fine how they replace the spin jump moves from World using the waggle for the flowers since there are only two action buttons now.  Also, the game kinda feels really floaty for some reason.  It just takes some getting used to.  I do like that they got rid of the Mario 64 moves that were there in NSMB DS.  The music sucks, btw.

But yeah, the game is fun.

Yuck.
It's not that bad.  Waggle is very minimal in this game.  But, I would've preferred the option to map that function to Classic Controller.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 15, 2009, 05:53:11 PM
Do the toads that appear in levels have a finite number or are they random?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Oblivion on November 15, 2009, 05:53:30 PM
Wait, which SM64 moves did they get rid of? Better not be the wall jump...
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: demi on November 15, 2009, 06:00:07 PM
Wall jump is there
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: tiesto on November 15, 2009, 06:00:47 PM
Do you need to rescue every toad in every level for completionist purposes, or is it just for a few extra lives? I'm really enjoying this game so far, level design is a good deal more developed and challenging than the DS game, and it's got a lot of nice throwbacks to SM3 and W. Just made it to stage 4, though I have to go back and collect a few coins I missed in stages 2 and 3.

Yeah, my main complaint of course is the waggle stuff, especially picking up certain objects by pressing 1+waggle.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: cool breeze on November 15, 2009, 06:03:12 PM
Game is fun.  I'm not about to make judgments on the first world about difficulty, but I will say it's clever how they had it be a tutorial where each level teaches you about a power/yoshi/level style.  Um, the waggle stuff is kinda worse than I thought.  Picking objects is probably the one that kills me.  In every Mario game, and even with Koopa shells in this game, you pick up and carry items by holding a button and running into it.  For some reason they have you hold 1 and waggle to pick it up.  It's just so awkward to do that, and other various moves.  In the propeller suit I accidentally activate the jump when I didn't mean to.  When you get to the first one of those scale platforms, I expected it to be like a scale, but you just tilt to move it...why? it's a lot of gimmicky stuff so far.  But I do think it's fine how they replace the spin jump moves from World using the waggle for the flowers since there are only two action buttons now.  Also, the game kinda feels really floaty for some reason.  It just takes some getting used to.  I do like that they got rid of the Mario 64 moves that were there in NSMB DS.  The music sucks, btw.

But yeah, the game is fun.

Yuck.
It's not that bad.  Waggle is very minimal in this game.  But, I would've preferred the option to map that function to Classic Controller.

I don't mean to make it seem totally awful.  I say it's worse than I thought because it makes its way into your primary move set.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Bebpo on November 15, 2009, 06:09:26 PM
Do you need to rescue every toad in every level for completionist purposes, or is it just for a few extra lives? I'm really enjoying this game so far, level design is a good deal more developed and challenging than the DS game, and it's got a lot of nice throwbacks to SM3 and W. Just made it to stage 4, though I have to go back and collect a few coins I missed in stages 2 and 3.

Yeah, my main complaint of course is the waggle stuff, especially picking up certain objects by pressing 1+waggle.

All they do is give you more item houses.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 15, 2009, 07:48:30 PM
People look too fondly back at the old Mario games and saying how hard they were.  I'm sorry, World is not that hard.  In fact the hardest Mario game that I've played was SMB2, American version.  Nothing has been as challenging as that since.  I just sat down with World for a go real quick and got the the fourth world in about 20 minutes.  NSMBWii is tons tougher than that game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Rman on November 15, 2009, 09:00:47 PM
Wait, which SM64 moves did they get rid of? Better not be the wall jump...
Long jump, which wouldn't make any sense in a 2d mario game.  Triple jump and wall jump are in.  It's basically the same jump mechanics as NSMB.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 15, 2009, 09:27:35 PM
Wait, which SM64 moves did they get rid of? Better not be the wall jump...
Long jump, which wouldn't make any sense in a 2d mario game.  Triple jump and wall jump are in.  It's basically the same jump mechanics as NSMB.

At least it doesn't seem to be the case. I mean, it's not that you don't have the moves, it's just that the game hardly ever makes you use them.  I finished world 2 with all the stars and you needed to wall jump once.  Another great thing is all the stars so far deal with items found in the levels, so you don't have to go find a stupid mini-mushroom and return later.  The propeller suit is great, btw.  A bit broken compared the leaf or cape since you can super jump whenever, but it's not really a problem.  World 3 is an ice one, so I'm guessing I can try the penguin suit here.

People look too fondly back at the old Mario games and saying how hard they were.  I'm sorry, World is not that hard.  In fact the hardest Mario game that I've played was SMB2, American version.  Nothing has been as challenging as that since.  I just sat down with World for a go real quick and got the the fourth world in about 20 minutes.  NSMBWii is tons tougher than that game.

But you've played that game before, no? I've played SMB3 and World so much that they would seem easy to me (though, World 8 SMB3 still gets me) while NSMB Wii is new for the most part.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 15, 2009, 09:47:24 PM
I thought world 2 had some coin where you had to be mini-mario to get into a pipe, but there haven't been any actual small mushrooms in the levels that I've found through world 3.

Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 15, 2009, 09:49:19 PM
If you're talking about the one behind those two barrels in that one stage, there is a mini-mushroom earlier in the level through a regular pipe.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 15, 2009, 10:00:41 PM
Ugh, I thought they got rid of that stupid mini mushroom.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 15, 2009, 11:06:52 PM
It's only used, like, twice in the game as far as I know.  It's never a prominent power up.  Better they kept that one, though, rather than the distinguished mentally-challenged giant shroom.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: Madrun Badrun on November 15, 2009, 11:28:00 PM
In fact the hardest Mario game that I've played was SMB2, American version. 

You've clearly never played lost worlds.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: bork on November 15, 2009, 11:31:28 PM
In fact the hardest Mario game that I've played was SMB2, American version. 

You've clearly never played lost worlds.

:teehee
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 15, 2009, 11:41:09 PM
is waggle ever required, and can waggle controls be disabled
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Oblivion on November 15, 2009, 11:44:16 PM
is waggle ever required, and can waggle controls be disabled

You waggle when you have the propeller suit to perform a big jump iirc.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 16, 2009, 12:05:42 AM
In fact the hardest Mario game that I've played was SMB2, American version. 

You've clearly never played lost worlds.

I have, through Mario All-stars.  Yeah, really hard, but I don't consider it a true Mario game :smug
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Barry Egan on November 16, 2009, 12:24:37 AM
ptshh, SMB2 is barely a mario game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: demi on November 16, 2009, 12:26:29 AM
is waggle ever required, and can waggle controls be disabled

Waggle required for the seesaws and the propeller hat, and picking up blocks (POW block, frozen enemies)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 16, 2009, 12:29:48 AM
is waggle ever required, and can waggle controls be disabled

Waggle required for the seesaws and the propeller hat, and picking up blocks (POW block, frozen enemies)

and the spin attack, which isn't useful unless you have the ice or fire flower because it makes you shoot in each direction.  And to jump off Yoshi.  Also, some other seesaw like operations, like the 1up game where you aim a cannon by tilting the thing.

Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 16, 2009, 12:31:16 AM
ptshh, SMB2 is barely a mario game.

I associate a lot about the Mario universe through what was introduced in SMB2.  The character controls, specific music tracks, certain items, Shy-guys, Birdo, etc.  It's the game that introduced the concept that Mario's environment was a character itself, not just a background.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 16, 2009, 12:41:13 AM
is waggle ever required, and can waggle controls be disabled

Yes, the same waggle integration philosophies of Galaxy apply here.
What's wrong... are you.... you know?
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Post by: Himu on November 16, 2009, 12:42:15 AM
Some losers are comparing this to SMB2j in terms of difficulty. ::)
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 16, 2009, 01:07:13 AM
It would be nice, but I sincerely doubt it.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 16, 2009, 01:34:50 AM
is waggle ever required, and can waggle controls be disabled

Waggle required for the seesaws and the propeller hat, and picking up blocks (POW block, frozen enemies)

and the spin attack, which isn't useful unless you have the ice or fire flower because it makes you shoot in each direction.  And to jump off Yoshi.  Also, some other seesaw like operations, like the 1up game where you aim a cannon by tilting the thing.


What is the point of the spin attack?  I don't see any point in ever using it.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 16, 2009, 01:51:40 AM
The spin attack gives you a fraction of lift, like in galaxy.  Watch the super skills videos.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 16, 2009, 02:35:06 AM
He means the idle spin attack, not the mid-air one.

I like the regular spin attack for jumping on a series of enemies; it gives you more air.
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Post by: DJ_Tet on November 16, 2009, 04:10:32 AM
Some losers are comparing this to SMB2j in terms of difficulty. ::)

laughable that Nin would even consider such a possibility


Those fuckers need to go back and play SMB2j again
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Post by: demi on November 16, 2009, 07:43:19 AM
Can you reach that cannon in world 1? Just finished World 1 without dying and all coins
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Post by: Trent Dole on November 16, 2009, 08:10:47 AM
Some losers are comparing this to SMB2j in terms of difficulty. ::)
lol, no. I got up to world six playing by myself/with my wife for a few hours yesterday. I'd agree with the assertion that this is about SMW level difficulty since I stomped through the main game of that in a weekend back in the day.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 16, 2009, 08:28:56 AM
Can you reach that cannon in world 1? Just finished World 1 without dying and all coins

yes, you can reach anything at anytime.

the it is in is fairly obvious (1-3) and to get it you need to go to that hidden coin tunnel in the level, jump out to the left on yoshi, then jump off yoshi towards the right, then keep running right outside the screen and you'll find a hidden pipe.  The stage hints at it later on by showing you the top of the stage is actually a platform.

Some losers are comparing this to SMB2j in terms of difficulty. ::)

They just lack the dexterity for normal controls after years of point and/or waggling or standing on a scale.
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Post by: demi on November 16, 2009, 02:21:07 PM
so what you're saying is that it sucks. gotcha
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Post by: SantaC on November 16, 2009, 02:22:58 PM
I played co-op with my brother and it was much more fun than single player.
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Post by: bork on November 16, 2009, 04:55:09 PM
Co-op is gonna be where its at.  Hopefully I can get my wife into some Mario action. 

I'm getting my copy tomorrow; Amazon is also giving $10 credits back to anyone who orders the game from them.  I used it on Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, knocking the price down to $34.99.  LOL Gamestop.
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Post by: bork on November 17, 2009, 04:08:32 PM
Game's GREAT; feels like everything the DS version should have been.  I like the power-ups, and the use of waggle really is pretty minimal.  Thumbs-up.
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Post by: bork on November 17, 2009, 05:02:55 PM
Not yet.  Wife's sleeping and I dunno when I'm going to get together with any friends next.

Stoopid nitpick: Why does this game have to come in an all-red box?  It sticks out like a sore thumb next to all the other Wii titles, Metroid Prime Trilogy included.
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Post by: SantaC on November 17, 2009, 05:11:27 PM
the game is fun as 2 player, but wasnt there a scoreboard after each level at E3? Did they remove it?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 17, 2009, 05:53:40 PM
Coin battle.
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Post by: tiesto on November 17, 2009, 08:45:21 PM
:bow Stage 7-3 :bow2
:piss Stage 7-fortress :piss2
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 17, 2009, 09:09:17 PM
This game isn't hard to come by extra lives.  But I have died. ALOT.  Although sometimes I'm just screwing around looking for SECRETS.  What's really wonderful is that most of the time, when there's an area that looks like you could reach with some clever platforming, it rewards you accordingly with SECRETS. Awesome.

edit: Oh, and that raft stage in the swamp world is wicked.  Its like a full assault of goombas, bombas, piranha plants, koopas, etc. raining down from the sky while you stand on a raft going down a stream of poisonous water.  I musta died like 15 times.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 17, 2009, 09:22:08 PM
The best levels are any and ALL that contain both the Athletic theme, dancing mushrooms, flying paratroopers, and the propellor hat.  Fucking incredible platforming levels.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 17, 2009, 10:44:06 PM
Holy shit at 8-1.  I warped from 6-something and and and
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poison gas cloud tailing your ass, lava gysers, meteorites falling in big numbers, and beetle baileys!)
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Post by: archie4208 on November 18, 2009, 04:21:47 PM
The Bowser boss fight was intense as fuck.  There was insanely good platforming during that section.
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Post by: Rman on November 18, 2009, 09:17:47 PM
Loving W7.
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Post by: tiesto on November 18, 2009, 09:53:22 PM
Just beat the fortress in world 8... after clearing the main game I gotta go back and collect all the coins/secret exits I missed.
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Post by: MoxManiac on November 19, 2009, 09:18:16 PM
How do you get to world 9?
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Post by: archie4208 on November 19, 2009, 09:30:37 PM
Beat the game.
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Post by: Trent Dole on November 19, 2009, 10:14:54 PM
World 9 kinda sucks, you can't play any stages unless
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you've collected ALL the star coins in a world.
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Makes me wonder what kind of hardcore insanity awaits those who access the levels.
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Post by: archie4208 on November 19, 2009, 11:14:23 PM
World 9 kinda sucks, you can't play any stages unless
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you've collected ALL the star coins in a world.
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Makes me wonder what kind of hardcore insanity awaits those who access the levels.

Nothing that difficult to be honest.
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Post by: Rman on November 20, 2009, 01:51:54 AM
Did Oblivion get this yet?
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Post by: Oblivion on November 20, 2009, 01:37:02 PM
Did Oblivion get this yet?

Me? Actually yes, I did. Just yesterday. :D

Best not be disappointed biatches! :punch :punch :punch
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Post by: Oblivion on November 20, 2009, 11:39:08 PM
Aight, time to rip into this biatch. :D

The game looks a lot nicer than it did at E3.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 21, 2009, 06:55:56 AM
I'm halfway through world 2 and its exceedingvmt expectations
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Post by: Oblivion on November 21, 2009, 03:25:49 PM
This game has probably the worst music in the series so far. Which is an amazing accomplishment after NSMB: DS.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 21, 2009, 04:12:50 PM
This game has probably the worst music in the series so far. Which is an amazing accomplishment after NSMB: DS.

Oh what the fuck ever Oblivion.  Have you played NSMB:DS lately?  It's ghastly.  The athletic theme, castle themes, and world 4 overworld themes are awesome.
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Post by: Oblivion on November 21, 2009, 04:17:45 PM
BN, you know you is my nukka, but from what I've played so far, much of the music is about the same as the DS, but with slightly better samples. Heck, they re-used almost every single piece of music, except the main castle theme, i.e. the only good track in the game. :(

But I'm only at world 3, so maybe it gets better. We'll see I guess.
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Post by: demi on November 22, 2009, 05:53:12 AM
[youtube=560,345]Re4e7BitfiU[/youtube]
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 22, 2009, 09:44:19 AM
World 3 is awesome, I'm loving this game.
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Post by: Oblivion on November 22, 2009, 04:41:52 PM
At world 7. The remixes of prior non-NSMB games is making this a little more tolerable at least. Hell, the castle theme is growing on me.

So far this game is a blast. Level design is excellent.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 22, 2009, 05:06:24 PM
I haven't played past World 2 still.  A mix of school work, finishing Dragon Age and getting knocked out by AC2 delayed me.  On the bright side I might be able to wrangle up some multiplayer sessions.

This is such a fun game.  I'm taking my time going through it and enjoying every minute.  Feels weird to actually be playing the Wii again.

I felt that way too.  Other than having to find the Wii remote condom and update HBC, I realized that a while ago I stopped keeping batteries in the remote and had the Wii itself unplugged.

and a bit random, but I like that the Wii keeps track of how long you played.  Steam does that to.  I see people saying they've played AC2 for over 20 hours, and while I don't doubt I played it that long, there is no way to know for sure.  I guess these people keep a timer with them or something.
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Post by: Rman on November 22, 2009, 05:17:55 PM
At world 7. The remixes of prior non-NSMB games is making this a little more tolerable at least. Hell, the castle theme is growing on me.

So far this game is a blast. Level design is excellent.
This is the same team that made NSMB DS, right?  At least that's what Wikipedia says.  They definitely improved in almost all areas, including the music :P
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Post by: demi on November 22, 2009, 05:48:47 PM
Feels weird to actually be playing the Wii again.

All you need USB loader bro. The thought of never buying a Wii game is so exhilirating.
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Post by: Oblivion on November 22, 2009, 05:57:13 PM
At world 7. The remixes of prior non-NSMB games is making this a little more tolerable at least. Hell, the castle theme is growing on me.

So far this game is a blast. Level design is excellent.
This is the same team that made NSMB DS, right?  At least that's what Wikipedia says.  They definitely improved in almost all areas, including the music :P

Yeah, it's the same team. And I never said the music is worse, but it's not as significant an improvement as I hoped.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 22, 2009, 06:18:24 PM
Just beat it, fucking amazing. Takes huge shits on NSMB. Might even edge out Galaxy for me. Definitely top tier Mario material.
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Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 22, 2009, 06:24:44 PM
Just beat it, fucking amazing. Takes huge shits on NSMB. Might even edge out Galaxy for me. Definitely top tier Mario material.

Fuck.  That good?

I was going to wait until Galaxy 2 to get a Wii and this game but I don't know now.
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Post by: Oblivion on November 22, 2009, 06:32:08 PM
Just beat it, fucking amazing. Takes huge shits on NSMB. Might even edge out Galaxy for me. Definitely top tier Mario material.

Fuck.  That good?

I was going to wait until Galaxy 2 to get a Wii and this game but I don't know now.

I'm halfway through world 8 right now, and if you're not the type of person that lets music ruin a game for you, and if you didn't mind the DS version's controls/physics, you'd probably love it cause the level design is all kinds of awesome. Really, aside from the two things I mentioned, I'd probably give it a 10.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 22, 2009, 06:34:59 PM
I think the music is better than NSMB1, too.

For me it's Mario 3, NSMB/SMG, World.

It is already my 10th most played Wii game lol. Just under 12 hours to beat all the levels, but I haven't unlocked any levels in the secret world yet.
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 22, 2009, 06:51:00 PM
Game isn't as good as Galaxy but fuck if it's not incredible.  Definitely the second or third best Wii game.

And I think the music is good, personally.
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 22, 2009, 06:53:51 PM
What Wii turd could possibly be above this besides Galaxy lol
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Post by: demi on November 22, 2009, 06:57:24 PM
What Wii turd could possibly be above this besides Galaxy lol

Disaster
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Post by: Oblivion on November 22, 2009, 07:04:14 PM
Almost done.

 :o :o :o @ the final boss battle.
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Post by: tiesto on November 22, 2009, 07:17:07 PM
All the secret exits and star coins in worlds 1-7 get... now to finish up the last bit of world 8.
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Post by: tiesto on November 22, 2009, 07:21:49 PM
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 22, 2009, 07:48:25 PM
What Wii turd could possibly be above this besides Galaxy lol

Corruption, but that's because I love the Prime games.  I can understand if you don't, though.
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Post by: chronovore on November 22, 2009, 08:03:43 PM
Co-op is gonna be where its at.  Hopefully I can get my wife into some Mario action. 

I'm getting my copy tomorrow; Amazon is also giving $10 credits back to anyone who orders the game from them.  I used it on Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, knocking the price down to $34.99.  LOL Gamestop.
I misread that as Resident Evil Dark Chocolate. Mmmm. Zombie nougat.
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Post by: tiesto on November 22, 2009, 10:53:52 PM
Niiice, just beat the main game, got all coins in the main game... really cool final battle, some incredible platforming at the later levels of this game. I really love how each of the levels has this 'flow', basically encouraging you to do speed runs to make it through.
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Post by: bork on November 22, 2009, 11:40:55 PM
Co-op is gonna be where its at.  Hopefully I can get my wife into some Mario action. 

I'm getting my copy tomorrow; Amazon is also giving $10 credits back to anyone who orders the game from them.  I used it on Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles, knocking the price down to $34.99.  LOL Gamestop.
I misread that as Resident Evil Dark Chocolate. Mmmm. Zombie nougat.

:drool
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Post by: DJ_Tet on November 23, 2009, 03:54:46 AM

This is the same team that made NSMB DS, right?  At least that's what Wikipedia says.  They definitely improved in almost all areas, including the music :P

That's shocking if true.  This game is a huge step up and a great game in it's own right.  I don't like it better than Galaxy yet, but I'm only through World 2. 
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Post by: twerd on November 23, 2009, 05:54:08 PM
sorry i was away watching new moon in theaters but im back now and this game is damn good.

shitty motion controls... 1 + waggle to pick up items? gtfo

game really could've benefitted from online. outside of that, i don't mind the graphics and i don't play mario games to listen to the music. multiplayer is fun, but single player is where this game shines.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 24, 2009, 04:28:00 AM
40/40 from famitsu  :-\

I love this game (would give 9/10), but Galaxy (40/40) is still in a whole different league.  The art & music alone should make this score less than Galaxy; not too mention the amazingly innovative design in Galaxy that is not here so much.
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Post by: Purple Filth on November 24, 2009, 06:18:24 AM
40/40 from famitsu  :-\

I love this game (would give 9/10), but Galaxy (40/40) is still in a whole different league.  The art & music alone should make this score less than Galaxy; not too mention the amazingly innovative design in Galaxy that is not here so much.

its fucking famitsu, why do you care?
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Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 24, 2009, 06:22:38 AM
I put it higher because I prefer the side scrolling style of game. 2D and 3D Mario is basically two different genres so it is hard to directly compare. Objectively, SMG is probably a good bit better than this game.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 24, 2009, 07:11:41 AM
40/40 from famitsu  :-\

I love this game (would give 9/10), but Galaxy (40/40) is still in a whole different league.  The art & music alone should make this score less than Galaxy; not too mention the amazingly innovative design in Galaxy that is not here so much.

its fucking famitsu, why do you care?

Yeah, that was dumb.  Dunno why I let game scores get me riled up.  I blame gaf for bringing out the worst in people, including myself.

Back on topic, I feel like I'm the only one getting all the coins as I go.  Everyone else seems to beat the game first then go back and get the coins.  I just keep replaying a level until I have all the coins and then move to the next.  :X  I think the game would have better pacing if I just did the levels, but I'd rather get the coins while the level is fresh in my head.  Thankfully about 50% of the time I find all 3 on my first run.
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Post by: magus on November 24, 2009, 07:36:21 AM
out of curiosity,how much did it take to play trough the game?
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Post by: tiesto on November 24, 2009, 08:33:37 AM
OK, World 9 is fucking awesome and very challenging... only beat levels 1, 2 and 4 so far... this may take a bit of time.
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2009, 10:06:17 AM
I stopped playing. Dunno how you guys keep playing this stuff for more than a day.
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Post by: archie4208 on November 24, 2009, 10:11:39 AM
I stopped playing. Dunno how you guys keep playing this stuff for more than a day.

Because it's fun? ???
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Post by: demi on November 24, 2009, 10:17:04 AM
Coulda fooled me bro. If this gets your pussy wet I got some beans and an empty can you can flick them into.
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Post by: Mr. Gundam on November 24, 2009, 11:12:55 AM
These 40/40 scores are getting way out of hand...
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 24, 2009, 12:40:17 PM
Well this game actually deserves to be that high.  But who cares, famitsu sucks
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Post by: archie4208 on November 24, 2009, 12:47:06 PM
If Nintendo is going to moneyhat a perfect score, they should have at least done it for Mario Galaxy.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 24, 2009, 02:13:06 PM
I'm slightly ashamed to admit that I like the little spin you do when you waggle after a jump.  I don't know if it does anything in terms of height or distance, but it makes you feel like you just barely caught the flag for a 1up at the end of a level.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 24, 2009, 04:01:37 PM
I'm slightly ashamed to admit that I like the little spin you do when you waggle after a jump.  I don't know if it does anything in terms of height or distance, but it makes you feel like you just barely caught the flag for a 1up at the end of a level.

It stalls mario for half a sec while preserving your horizontal momentum, I think....
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Post by: twerd on November 24, 2009, 05:08:33 PM
a lot of the super skill runs use/abuse the spin move.

are you all playing horizontal or with the nunchuk?
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 24, 2009, 08:22:41 PM
Horizontal, as it's intended bitches
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Post by: tiesto on November 24, 2009, 10:40:06 PM
Man, I had all 3 coins for 9-5... was a few jumps away from the exit, and I choked.  :-\
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Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2009, 04:44:42 PM
The new suits in this game are so good.  I don't get why there is a Penguin suit and Ice flower when they're the same thing, then again, the Tanooki suit was a better leaf, so whatever.
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Post by: Bebpo on November 26, 2009, 05:51:38 PM
Eh, I would like the propeller suit a hell of a lot better if I could activate it without motion shakes.  I died a bunch of times getting the coin on world 5 castle right above the lava because timing the shake was tough.
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Post by: tiesto on November 26, 2009, 06:40:49 PM
So does anybody bother with the mini mushroom? Apart from one Star Coin that required use of it, I don't recall using it at all. Propeller suit ROCKED and was a lifesaver in some boards. And man... 9-7... hardest Mario level ever!
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Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2009, 06:44:38 PM
Eh, I would like the propeller suit a hell of a lot better if I could activate it without motion shakes.  I died a bunch of times getting the coin on world 5 castle right above the lava because timing the shake was tough.

I don't have a problem with that.  Actually, the non-waggle based penguin slide sometimes gets me because the d-pad on the wii remote is way too small.

then again, I'm just on World 5, so maybe it starts to get harder now.  So far the only difficult section of the game was the 2nd exit in World 2, which is the only thing I haven't done yet.


So does anybody bother with the mini mushroom? Apart from one Star Coin that required use of it, I don't recall using it at all. Propeller suit ROCKED and was a lifesaver in some boards. And man... 9-7... hardest Mario level ever!

mini mushroom sucks, but it is a hold over from NSMB DS, so it's better to just attribute the suck to that game
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2009, 07:31:17 PM
So does anybody bother with the mini mushroom? Apart from one Star Coin that required use of it, I don't recall using it at all. Propeller suit ROCKED and was a lifesaver in some boards. And man... 9-7... hardest Mario level ever!

It's good for speed runs of levels, and for use for cool platforming tricks.
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Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 26, 2009, 08:54:58 PM
Mini mushroom is the best powerup ever.  You don't like running on water? Or having moon jump turned on?  It pisses me off so much when I get a few of those and a regular mushroom somehow catches me while I try to avoid it.

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Post by: Don Flamenco on November 27, 2009, 02:36:30 PM
My folks wanted a wii for their house and I convinced them to get the dell bundle with this game :teehee  Guess I'll try it out next week.
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Post by: archie4208 on November 27, 2009, 02:59:14 PM
I'm starting to loathe the floaty controls.  It feels like I'm playing on the Moon or something.
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Post by: Rman on November 27, 2009, 05:01:36 PM
I found World's more floaty.
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Post by: archie4208 on November 28, 2009, 10:19:20 AM
I finally got every star coin.  9-7 is one of the hardest levels ever in a Mario game, fan hacks not included.  I actually like the game alot, but forced and somewhat inaccurate waggle kinda soured me on the experience.
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Post by: Rman on November 28, 2009, 02:05:00 PM
I finally got every star coin.  9-7 is one of the hardest levels ever in a Mario game, fan hacks not included.  I actually like the game alot, but forced and somewhat inaccurate waggle kinda soured me on the experience.
Yes.  Especially if you want to get all the star coins.  The Super Skills video for that level is insane.
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Post by: cool breeze on November 28, 2009, 03:27:14 PM
6-6 is the absolute worst

you just stand there for a long ass time.  To collect the coins and alt exit, there is barely any effort required.  Most effort comes from holding the controller still.
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Post by: bork on November 28, 2009, 04:25:18 PM
Finally played some multiplayer last night.  Playing together on the same screen is fun, but also kind of fucked up.  It can mess up your jumps if you're trying to get to a platform that someone else is already standing on, or you might get in the way of a power-up.  Can you not throw your partner(s) upwards?  I kept messing around with that, and sometimes was able to throw the other player at an enemy and kill it, but often would kill/de-power my partner instead.
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Post by: Third on November 28, 2009, 04:28:32 PM
Finshed the game yesterday. Going to collect all the coins to unlock the world 9 levels.
I've played 3 levels in world 9 so far. They were pretty fun.

I really like the game. Been playing it with someone else since world 1. I don't think I'd like the game as a singleplayer experience.

This game definitely belongs in the top 5 best Wii games. Not saying much, though...
 
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Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 28, 2009, 05:29:53 PM
This game looks hawt in Dolphin.
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Out-performed by a PC emulator in the middle of the generation.  :'( Wii :'(
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Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 28, 2009, 06:14:40 PM
Finally played some multiplayer last night.  Playing together on the same screen is fun, but also kind of fucked up.  It can mess up your jumps if you're trying to get to a platform that someone else is already standing on, or you might get in the way of a power-up.  Can you not throw your partner(s) upwards?  I kept messing around with that, and sometimes was able to throw the other player at an enemy and kill it, but often would kill/de-power my partner instead.

You can't throw them upwards per say, but if you grab someone, jump with them, and then they jump as well, it simulates the same thing, basically.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: bork on November 28, 2009, 06:45:44 PM
That emulator is so impressive.  Going to be all over it whenever I get a new PC.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 29, 2009, 03:48:21 AM
This game looks hawt in Dolphin.
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(http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/ab100/Bionic_Catbus/NSMBWiiHD2.jpg)
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Out-performed by a PC emulator in the middle of the generation.  :'( Wii :'(

I see this kind of thing and some of the texture details in Brawl and can't help but think Nintendo is developing some of their games with an hd wii in mind.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Rman on November 29, 2009, 04:12:39 PM
Now that I've completed this game, here are my 2d mario game rankings.  SMB3 is still king, but NSMB Wii really challenged it.

SMB3
NSMB Wii
SMB1
SMB2j
SMW
NSMB
SMB2 USA
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2009, 04:33:11 PM
uggghhhhh 7-mid castle fucking sucks.  This game is awesome until they go waggle crazy on you.  Like, this game is has been super easy and I got 99 lives just by playing, yet when I get to these waggle garbage sections I die a bunch.  Why would waggle be pick up enemy AND move the platform!?

it's even just a pain to play these sections.  apparently I hold controllers tilted to the left since just stepping on the platform has it fly to the left of the screen.  I have to play like fucking Frankenstein's monster.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: archie4208 on November 29, 2009, 05:54:37 PM
Getting the second coin in that castle was infuriating because I rubbed Mario against nearly every thing and still couldn't figure out where to go.  I eventually had to just go to GameFAQs and when I saw what I was suppose to do I :duh'ed IRL.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
second coin was easy since they showed you the the exit point on the next screen.  The trick was finding out where the entrance was.

Going to start world 8 tomorrow, really liking this game except for the occasional waggle gimmick stage and music.  It's not difficult like they were saying prerelease, though.  I'm guessing World 9 is the killer.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 29, 2009, 11:58:05 PM
uggghhhhh 7-mid castle fucking sucks.  This game is awesome until they go waggle crazy on you.  Like, this game is has been super easy and I got 99 lives just by playing, yet when I get to these waggle garbage sections I die a bunch.  Why would waggle be pick up enemy AND move the platform!?

it's even just a pain to play these sections.  apparently I hold controllers tilted to the left since just stepping on the platform has it fly to the left of the screen.  I have to play like fucking Frankenstein's monster.

In order to pick up the bombs you have to jump on them anyway, which deactivates the platform.  Didn't have a problem with that section and kinda enjoyed the bullet bill/bombomb barrage.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 30, 2009, 12:27:40 AM
can you turn off the waggle bits
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: demi on November 30, 2009, 12:29:33 AM
No
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: BobFromPikeCreek on November 30, 2009, 01:36:40 AM
lol "waggle bits"
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 30, 2009, 02:17:43 AM
It ain't no big deal.  The only waggle parts that bothered me were the one or two levels where you controlled a moving platform with it.  I actually liked it for the screw jump or whatever - I went back to play the original DS version and found myself shaking the entire DS  :-\
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 30, 2009, 08:44:56 AM
yeah, the waggle spin that's part of Mario's main moveset is fine.  Even picking up enemies with 1+waggle isn't that bad.  The stage that have platforms and objects controlled with waggle are absolutely awful.  At World 7 there have been maybe 4-5 of them in the game ranging from "this is distinguished mentally-challenged" to "this is distinguished mentally-challenged and I hate this".  One of the 7 stages has platforms that move left or right depending on where you tilt.  The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 30, 2009, 01:18:13 PM
sounds like someone isn't good at this game  :-*
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 30, 2009, 01:39:45 PM
Uh swaggaz, you do know you don't have to pick up turtle shells and bomb-ombs with the waggle+1, right?  You just run into those to pick them up.

edit:
"The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform."
Or do you mean, if you tilt to fast then it fucks up?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: SantaC on November 30, 2009, 01:58:20 PM
so everybody hates the waggle which i pointed out in the beginning. Brandnew owned.

Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Bebpo on November 30, 2009, 04:28:52 PM
sounds like someone isn't good at this game  :-*

Yeah, it's not that waggle controls in games are inaccurate compared to an analogue or a button.  People are just bad at them  ::)

/this message was brought to you by WFFA, the waggle-free-future-association
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on November 30, 2009, 05:59:45 PM
Uh swaggaz, you do know you don't have to pick up turtle shells and bomb-ombs with the waggle+1, right?  You just run into those to pick them up.

edit:
"The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform."
Or do you mean, if you tilt to fast then it fucks up?

uh, no shit you can pick them up.  But the game puts a fucking ice flower power up during that section.  Frozen enemy requires waggle+1.

sounds like someone isn't good at this game  :-*

no dude, ya can't even joke about that shit.  Up to world 8 and the only levels I die on are the waggle ones.  That isn't an exaggeration.  I wish I could find stats to back it up, because it's ridiculous.  The only stages where Mario has a hat are the waggle ones.  Rest of the time I have 99 legit lives; not the wimp lives people get by farming a koopa shell early on.  They're just poorly designed levels to use the waggle gimmick.  As I've said, the only bad parts of this game are the waggle stages and the music.  Everything else is ace.

Uh swaggaz, you do know you don't have to pick up turtle shells and bomb-ombs with the waggle+1, right?  You just run into those to pick them up.

edit:
"The best part is that if you tilt at a spin past a turtle's, the platform moves, Mario does a fucking spin jump and flies off the platform."
Or do you mean, if you tilt to fast then it fucks up?

I mean, I try playing the game and it fucks up because the waggle sucks shit in those levels.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: magus on November 30, 2009, 06:42:58 PM
i finaly got a chance to play the game up to world 3 and it was good but lacking that punch to truly make it remarkable,have had no problem with the controls until now
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 30, 2009, 07:47:09 PM
wtf at gaf bitching about this game's voice acting
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: demi on November 30, 2009, 07:47:44 PM
It sucks bro. Mario's line at the end of a level is weak.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 30, 2009, 08:11:16 PM
sgoty, confirmed

(shittiest)
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2009, 03:40:20 PM
Got through worlds 1 to 8 :rock

Awesome game sans waggle stage and music.  Never was difficult, but I'm on World 9, so maybe this is where it is supposed to get hard.

Also, I wish the style in the credits was used throughout the entire game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 01, 2009, 03:58:46 PM
...what do you mean?  That IS the style throughout the entire game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2009, 04:01:32 PM
The characters and objects casting shadows on the background.  It reminded me SMB3 with some objects.

If you haven't finished it yet/forgot, you can see it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LUAh9Lmhbw

Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 01, 2009, 04:02:51 PM
I'm not sure what you mean  :-\

The credits WERE awesome though.  Rad music, too.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: Oblivion on December 01, 2009, 06:42:39 PM
I hate 9-7 sooooooooo much.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: magus on December 02, 2009, 04:59:57 AM
those star coins can get so annoying to find,i swear i had to repeat the first boo house at least 10 time before finding the last one!
also i'm the only one who doesn't like the propellor suit? it's a double jump basicaly and giving mario a double jump is well... just wrong!
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 02, 2009, 11:32:31 AM
suck a FUCK, the propellor suit is the best fucking power-up in the game.  So goddamn awesome.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii leaked (now released) thread
Post by: twerd on December 03, 2009, 03:47:15 AM
suck a FUCK, the propellor suit is the best fucking power-up in the game.  So goddamn awesome.

if you hate platformers and suck at the game, then yes.

the penguin suit is undeniably the best power up in the game, although you could make an argument for mini-mario. check it: with penguin you make can new platforms by freezing enemies, easily dispatch enemies through sliding or through freezing them (allowing you to do the fun stuff, the platforming), you can skim on water, your traction is better on ice. the only thing cool about the propeller suit is that you look like you're wearing a dunce cap.  :dur the hat sucks balls b/c it breaks the game and allows you to float right on by the best parts of the game. people who liked the raccoon suit and the NSMBds power up, i'm calling you out too.

i love this game to death, though. altho seriously, fuck that shake +1 button crap. unlike swaggaz i love the tilting mechanics that add to the level design, but the multiple uses nintendo assigned to one button (THE WAGGLE BUTTON) is just straight up bad design. with one misplaced shake you can pick up items you didn't mean to, suicide leap off of yoshi, propeller hat your way to your doom, or leap to your death from one of the tilting levels. this game is a 10/10 wrapped in pretty mediocre audio/visuals and some nintendo (read: bone-headed) decisions that leave you scratching your head (no online, no level editor officially, no ability to save replays, only waggle option). so i can understand the 8s to 9s the game is getting and its still the best 2d mario i've ever played.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: drew on December 03, 2009, 03:56:44 AM
i just lost over an hour of game time because i accidentally pressed the power button during an underwater level

fuck my fucking life
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 03, 2009, 08:29:56 AM
I need jarosh to back a brutha up on my propellor suit love
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: drew on December 03, 2009, 08:42:13 AM
and it just happened again, this time it wiped my 40 something life count down to 8, i know i quicksaved, they must wipe out all your quick saves if you shut down suddenly

yeah, that has to be it, im right back after the first castle

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

edit:  all they had to do to avoid shit like this is put in a pop up making sure you want to shut down, especially with the button being so close to the dpad and having games where you have to hold the controller sideways :maf
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: drew on December 03, 2009, 09:54:39 AM
right, i know that, im just like a deer in head lights at how easy it was to wipe 4 hours of progress with a little thumb pressure

if they want to have a save system like this they should make sure its not played horizontally, and vice versa

edit: wow, i just accidentally used an invincible star in the overworld, today is just not my day
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 03, 2009, 10:41:17 AM
Penguin suit is the best suit in the game.  In addition to having ice flower powers and the slide, you get a lot more control on ice and in water.  Propeller suit is awesome, too, and I don't think it's really overpowered since it shoots you straight up.  If you compare it to the cape or leaf in past games, it may seem a bit cheap, but w/e.  Actually, the only thing I dislike is that a lot of the stage aren't designed by taking it into consideration.  SMB3 and World had hidden section in the sky you could fly up to.  I guess it's because of the co-op and keeping everything on one screen.  And mini-mushroom is still lame.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: magus on December 03, 2009, 03:26:40 PM
i've reached world 7 and... i don't know but i'm not feeling the game,there is nothing bad about it but if you asked me "what was the most awesome moment you had in the game?" i seriously wouldn't know what to reply because i literaly got nothing! nada! zero!
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 03, 2009, 03:40:43 PM
That's a shame  :(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: demi on December 03, 2009, 03:47:56 PM
Dont worry magus, I stopped playing in World 2. These guys are more hardcore than me, I dunno how they do it.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 03, 2009, 06:53:14 PM
NSMBwii online just sounds like a griefers paradise.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 04, 2009, 12:59:01 AM
I don't like the propeller suit or the penguin suit. I wish they would have retained the huge mushroom, it was fun bursting through levels with it.

it served no strategic, platforming purpose though.  worst mario power-up ever
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: drew on December 04, 2009, 02:44:27 AM
my thumbs are so sore and tender from playing this with the horizontal remote setup, stupid style over functionality 90 degree edged d pad

i switched to the nunchuk and oh my god instant relief, it works really well too, just takes five minutes and its second nature, and last but not least no random accidental shut downs and loss of progress
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Crushed on December 07, 2009, 10:02:32 AM
This game is fuck awesome.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: magus on December 08, 2009, 03:11:27 PM
well i've finished world 8 and got the extra stuff but i really have no motivation to bother with it so i guess i'm done with the game... my opinion really doesn't change,it's mario so of course there is fun to be had but ultimately there is really no reason to pick this over super mario world or super mario bros 3 unless you really love waggle gimmick or dark levels


Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 08, 2009, 03:45:40 PM
 ::)

"This is a fun game, but since I'm a nostalgia cigarillo, this game sucks."
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 08, 2009, 03:49:58 PM
::)

"This is a fun game, but since I'm a nostalgia cigarillo, this game sucks."

why are you on everyone's ass defending this game.

Yes, we get that it's fun, but that doesn't automatically make it BEST GAME EVER.  Lots of games are fun!  People can dislike it or rate it lower than other games while still admitting it to be a fun experience.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 08, 2009, 04:16:26 PM
I don't have a problem with saying "oh I don't like it as much as blahblah," that's completely fine.  I'll say it as well: I DON'T like it as much as SMW or Galaxy.  But to say shit like this:

Quote
there is really no reason to pick this over super mario world or super mario bros 3

is just fucking stupid.  Really?  There's no reason at all to buy a game that stands out as one of the best in the series, even if some people don't like it as much as the "heralded two?"  It's bullshit logic.

I can give you plenty of reasons to pick this game up, and yes, over SMW or SMB3.  MULTIPLAYER is the obvious fucking one.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: magus on December 08, 2009, 04:58:12 PM
oh it's not a matter of heralded two! i said it in another thread,it uses old super mario music,it uses old super mario gimmick (grates and ghost house's from super mario world,airship level from super mario bros 3... a level where you get chased by a giant fish... the koopa bro) and everytime it tries something new it's a boring level (the raft one where you stop everytime there are 5 enemies on it... the dark one where you control the flashlight with the waggle control) that is why i say there is no reason to pick this over the classic mario and why i can't call it "one of the best of the series" really... i think of this game in the same way i think of megaman power up! you could call the game "potpourri mario bros" and it would have been a more honest name... there was a time when a mario game could take place inside a giant robot and have as a boss the three little pigs and this without need to reuse any music,boss or gameplay mechanic

i do agree that multiplayer is lot of fun but i can play local only on rare occasion so it doesn't do much for me  :-\
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on December 08, 2009, 05:10:58 PM
You missed the memo: our blood has been replaced by yoshi piss
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 08, 2009, 09:59:46 PM
I got all the secret exits, and I have all the coins in Worlds 1, 2, 3, 5 and 6. I have all the coins in the level 9 levels I've unlocked too, except for the third one in 9-6. Still enjoying the game a lot. The gay Wii channel indicates that this is in my top 5 or so played Wii games already.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 14, 2009, 07:52:07 PM
I only need coins from World 8-7, 8-Ship, 8-Castle, and 9-7 and 9-8
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 14, 2009, 08:20:18 PM
I need to do the World 9 levels.  I did 9-1, 9-8 and 9-7 right away to see if they were as hard as people said.  I was a bit let down.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 14, 2009, 08:30:48 PM
They are not that hard. I got all 3 coins in my first successful attempt on each of them, except for two of them. I got two coins in each of those.


You don't think 9-7 is hard? This level sucks. It would be easy except for the fact that every fucking pipe is half an inch taller than you can clear with a stand-still jump, and there's barely any room to build up a head of steam.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 14, 2009, 09:50:20 PM
I had to use a starman and a propeller hat, which I never do, and reset it a bunch of times but I got all 3 coins. And with that I have a 5-star game profile. Took a touch over 24 hours, a bit less than SMG.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2009, 09:55:45 PM
I'm still on world 6  :'(
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 14, 2009, 09:57:13 PM
I am the real Wii fan around here!


Also it looks like all the theories on profile stars on GameFAQs are wrong. I had 3 profile stars when I had nothing left to do but get the third coin in 9-7. I had already beaten the stage, and done absolutely everything in worlds 1-8. I got that third coin and got not one, but two stars on my profile.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Oblivion on December 14, 2009, 10:23:22 PM
They are not that hard. I got all 3 coins in my first successful attempt on each of them, except for two of them. I got two coins in each of those.


You don't think 9-7 is hard? This level sucks. It would be easy except for the fact that every fucking pipe is half an inch taller than you can clear with a stand-still jump, and there's barely any room to build up a head of steam.

9-7 is the worst goddamn level in the game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 14, 2009, 11:56:23 PM
haha, i didn't even know the waggle wand was used as a flashlight in the dark levels, and thank god i didn't, since i really enjoyed those without it!
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 15, 2009, 05:31:48 AM
The dark level in world 8 was a real bitch for me personally. 

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its underwater, no flashlight, falling spikeballs
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Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Oblivion on December 15, 2009, 07:13:31 PM
Yeah, that level was pretty shitty. Actually, I didn't like any of the ones with there being no light.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: twerd on December 16, 2009, 02:14:09 PM
i liked the lightless levels because i have refined taste and do not fear the unknown.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 19, 2009, 06:02:53 PM
Man, just did the mid-castle of world 7 and it was the first time waggle controls really bothered me.  The post-checkpoint star where you are on the elevator moves left/right on your tilt with all the little bombas and you need to grab one and place it 'right' next to the block and then get in there.  Doing all that while also trying to KEEP THE CONTROLLER PERFECTLY LEVEL so it didn't swing left/right was VERY HARD FOR ME.  First time I got the Luigi box :( 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 19, 2009, 06:21:45 PM
I loved that level.  Wait till world eight which has the same tilt controlled platform but with lava and .... other stuff.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 19, 2009, 09:39:14 PM
Man, just did the mid-castle of world 7 and it was the first time waggle controls really bothered me.  The post-checkpoint star where you are on the elevator moves left/right on your tilt with all the little bombas and you need to grab one and place it 'right' next to the block and then get in there.  Doing all that while also trying to KEEP THE CONTROLLER PERFECTLY LEVEL so it didn't swing left/right was VERY HARD FOR ME.  First time I got the Luigi box :( 

Yes, that shit was distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 20, 2009, 12:17:03 AM
Man, just did the mid-castle of world 7 and it was the first time waggle controls really bothered me.  The post-checkpoint star where you are on the elevator moves left/right on your tilt with all the little bombas and you need to grab one and place it 'right' next to the block and then get in there.  Doing all that while also trying to KEEP THE CONTROLLER PERFECTLY LEVEL so it didn't swing left/right was VERY HARD FOR ME.  First time I got the Luigi box :( 

yeah, that level pissed me off big time.  Not hard or anything, just annoying.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 20, 2009, 02:30:34 AM
gonna try this out tomorrow on my parents' wii.  can't wait
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: twerd on December 20, 2009, 12:07:48 PM
i liked that tilt while platforming level, it was kind of a mindfuck.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 24, 2009, 08:51:15 PM
Went through world 8 today.  Some good stuff in there.  I think 8-7 with the dinobone coasters is my favorite level in the game.  Was really neat.  I like how the boss fights in the last few worlds really tried to change things up.  World 7-8 were kinda hard going for 100% completion.  I got to world 7 with 65 lives and finished the game with 35  :'(  While I love that the game was actually challenging, it's a love/hate thing because it's been a while since I've played a game that makes me want to throw my wiimote in frustration over and over.  I hated 7-6 with the flying beetles.  Oh god did I hate that.  Also any level with wii gimmicks, definitely hated those.  Not sure if I want to try world 9 today as I think I've had my cup of tea of dying for today.

I think while NSMB Wii has been a great, great game.  I enjoyed it less than the other marios because in those games I wasn't worrying about finding all the big gold coins and wasn't jumping into every wall and searching every cliff for them.  I was just running through the levels enjoying them.  Going 1 level at a time here getting all 3 coins before moving to the next, the game was a mix of fun (discovering the coins!) and frustration (dying and redoing the section over and over until you have them all in one go!).  I think I like Mario better when you are just focusing on what's in front of you to get to the end of the level.  I could have just not gotten all the coins, but I have collectathon ADD in games and if there are things to collect I feel like I must 100% them all.

Will try world 9 tomorrow. 
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 24, 2009, 10:10:31 PM
Why not just run through the game and get whatever you come across, and then go back for what you missed?
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 24, 2009, 10:26:09 PM
Addiction to collecting.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 25, 2009, 01:23:21 AM
yoshi's island has some serious collection OCD action
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 25, 2009, 08:25:57 AM
Addiction to collecting.

But you can return to the stages!
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 27, 2009, 08:33:30 PM
Tried world 9.  No checkpoints?  Maybe if I wasn't going for the 3 coins that'd be ok, but w/e.  I'm calling it a day.  This is outside my challenge/patience box.  Lovely game.  Good job Nintendo for delivering a quality game experience.  I look forward to Galaxy 2.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 30, 2009, 04:08:30 PM
So I played through world 9 today.  Didn't go for the coins.  Got some, but not all of them.  The levels were alright.  The ice level with the penguins was a bitch.  The final cloud level was a lot of fun.  I like it when the levels in the game introduce new things like 9-8 or the rollercoasters in 8-7.  Those are where the game really shines imo.

Overall really liked it.  I have some issues with the physics and the motion hijinks but still a very good game.
Title: Re: NSMB Wii Thread
Post by: Nintendosbooger on December 30, 2009, 04:34:53 PM
I'm going to re-play the game under a one player campaign as soon as I beat aBaHB. I didn't want to continue through the game without my second player partner, but he's been flaking and I'm not going to wait on his ass any more. I need to beat this game 100%.