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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Shuri on April 12, 2011, 11:03:12 PM

Title: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shuri on April 12, 2011, 11:03:12 PM
There's basically no hype about it, compared to the 3DS. The megathreads on GAF are rarely on the first few pages, I havent heard much of it in the medias except for the first day, and it was rather sparce.. Havent seen anyone with one outside or in the metro; heck, there hasnt been a single mention of it at work; yet the DS was a huge hit when it came out.

I remember seeing some big numbers on launch days, but eh, it seems the hype died?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on April 12, 2011, 11:04:32 PM
No games, man.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on April 12, 2011, 11:04:49 PM
psp is outselling it in japan

:bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: archie4208 on April 12, 2011, 11:06:53 PM
nope
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2011, 11:07:08 PM
No games, man.


This and it costs too much.

In the long run it will do fine most likely but right now there is no reason for casual people to own the thing.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 12, 2011, 11:08:05 PM
Gimmick and build quality suck too
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mrbob on April 12, 2011, 11:15:50 PM
NPD is this Thursday so maybe we will get some numbers.

Apple is eating Nintendo's lunch right now and the Nintendofanatics are in denial. 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 12, 2011, 11:17:15 PM
3DS is prob the best system i've ever bought. Great games - Ridge Racer, Ghost Recon PES, it's all good. I love it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 12, 2011, 11:20:24 PM
I just think it costs too much. While I'm not the typical consumer Nintendo is after anymore and like I said I think it will do fine once it comes down in price, it justs seems like an odd proposition to me.

I'd rather spend that dough on one of the traditional consoles or towards a touch or as a down payment on an ipad or whatever. 3D has no interest for me what so ever. And there are no compelling games on it that I couldn't play on other systems that are better.

To be fair I guess the original DS was also a shitty system for a good while before it got the software support. But the problem is those other competing devices back then either didn't exist or were more expensive than the DS unlike now.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on April 12, 2011, 11:46:14 PM
The 3DS will do well.

I remember when the DS was first unveiled, all the haters called it a quick cash in and a sloppy knee-jerk reaction to Sony's imminent foray into Nintendo's domain. All the 3rd parties supported the PSP, initially, but once the Big N decided it was time to unleash some quality, intuitive games that served to showcase the system's strength, 3rd parties hopped aboard and the DS made the history books. It's only a matter of time before Nintendo will - once again - lead the charge and release a series of megatitles for their newest system, which will lure the timid 3rd parties back to its camp.

Nintendo is actually a smart developer. They know the right type of games to create at the right time and for the right audience. They're not as stupid or one-dimensional as Sony who can seemingly only cater to the urban jock-gamers while making a few pitiful attempts at luring other markets (e.g., Resistance, Loco Rocco, etc.) only to end with embarrassing results.

I will say, however, that Nintendo seems to be dismissing the formula that helped them to achieve their success, which is creating an inexpensive gaming option for the mass market and making evolutionary changes to said option from its predecessor. But, nevertheless, if their 3DS games are great and original AND FUN, which I'm sure they will be, nothing will stop its success.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on April 13, 2011, 08:23:40 AM
VirtuaBoy 2.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Powerslave on April 13, 2011, 09:45:06 AM
I hope it fails, but it won't. Will probably end up selling 9827874x more than the DS. The 3D doesn't even work properly for me anymore if the slider is even at the half of it, I can only see the 3D effect when it's just barely on. Anything higher and it becomes a weird mess for me.
Besides I don't see how much more fun you can get out of this thing compared to the DS. It's the same thing only with 3D woohoo.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2011, 10:17:24 AM
Yes, having more graphical power and more features on top of 3d is the same thing.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Powerslave on April 13, 2011, 10:18:24 AM
having more graphical power goes without saying you moron. Then again you are himuro. GG.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2011, 10:19:27 AM
And yet you say it's the same thing. Why buy any system then? They're all only graphic upgrades, then, according to you.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Powerslave on April 13, 2011, 10:28:11 AM
No, my point is, the 3DS didn't live up to it's hyped up state to me. In the end, all it has is a shitty 3D effect. I was expecting something more than just that. I'm not anti-3DS all of a sudden, it just doesn't seem that big of a deal when it's just a DS with 3D effect.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on April 13, 2011, 11:09:53 AM
The 3DS looks like even more of a joke after the psp2 was unveiled.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Akala on April 13, 2011, 12:09:50 PM
The 3DS looks like even more of a joke after the psp2 was unveiled.

We said the same thing about the ds :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on April 13, 2011, 12:30:28 PM
Would be nice to be right for once though  :)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Powerslave on April 13, 2011, 12:44:10 PM
:bow Super PSP :bow2


(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2346/ash2d.jpg)

so much potential :bow


way better than 3DShit :piss2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2011, 12:54:23 PM
Will buy both, will most likely love both.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: tiesto on April 13, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
If NGP picks up right where PSP is currently at... holy shit. Imagine some new Falcom games at launch  :o
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on April 13, 2011, 02:15:52 PM
Didn't Falcom already say they'll have a PSP2 launch game? (for Japan, anyway)


3DS will still dominate the PSP2 in terms of sales, while both are affected by Apple devices.  Nintendo will always have the 'safe, kid-friendly' image on lock down.  But the grandparents and people that bought into Brain Training stuff have better outlets.  PSP2 is the ultimate video game handheld, but who knows if that has an audience in America.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Third on April 13, 2011, 03:09:51 PM
Damn, the NGP looks so sexy. :drool
3DS is neanderthal technology compared to it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on April 13, 2011, 03:13:07 PM
Stolen from gaf

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|System | This Week | Last Week         
---------------------------------         
|  PSP  |    35.834 |    58.075 |       
|  3DS  |    32.910 |    42.979 |       
|  PS3  |    22.431 |    27.453 | 
|  NDS  |   16.935 |    19.901 |         
|  WII  |     8.825 |    10.249 |         
|  360  |     1.906 |     1.789 |               
|  PS2  |     1.395 |     1.996 |         

I think that 3DS has a real chance of dropping bellow 20k.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2011, 03:13:50 PM
If psp2 has a monster hunter title at launch it could topple the 3ds :bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 13, 2011, 03:34:18 PM
Stolen from gaf

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|System | This Week | Last Week         
---------------------------------         
|  PSP  |    35.834 |    58.075 |       
|  3DS  |    32.910 |    42.979 |       
|  PS3  |    22.431 |    27.453 | 
|  NDS  |   16.935 |    19.901 |         
|  WII  |     8.825 |    10.249 |        
|  360  |     1.906 |     1.789 |              
|  PS2  |     1.395 |     1.996 |        

I think that 3DS has a real chance of dropping bellow 20k.



How much of this is a supply problem though?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on April 13, 2011, 03:35:34 PM
Stolen from gaf

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|System | This Week | Last Week         
---------------------------------         
|  PSP  |    35.834 |    58.075 |       
|  3DS  |    32.910 |    42.979 |       
|  PS3  |    22.431 |    27.453 | 
|  NDS  |   16.935 |    19.901 |         
|  WII  |     8.825 |    10.249 |         
|  360  |     1.906 |     1.789 |               
|  PS2  |     1.395 |     1.996 |         

I think that 3DS has a real chance of dropping bellow 20k.

Those 3DS numbers are pretty impressive considering that the PSP has received a number of high-profile titles recently.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on April 13, 2011, 03:37:18 PM
Stolen from gaf

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|System | This Week | Last Week         
---------------------------------         
|  PSP  |    35.834 |    58.075 |       
|  3DS  |    32.910 |    42.979 |       
|  PS3  |    22.431 |    27.453 | 
|  NDS  |   16.935 |    19.901 |         
|  WII  |     8.825 |    10.249 |         
|  360  |     1.906 |     1.789 |               
|  PS2  |     1.395 |     1.996 |         

I think that 3DS has a real chance of dropping bellow 20k.



smh you're a terrible xbro

Every system except the Xbox 360 had less sales this week.  Xbox 360 is making its comeback in Japan :punch
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on April 13, 2011, 04:27:37 PM
Stolen from gaf

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some numbers

Those 3DS numbers are pretty impressive considering that the PSP has received a number of high-profile titles recently.
True,if you look it that way but then again 3DS is a new console.I would say that things are not exactly going according to the plan,but there is no need to panic.


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smh you're a terrible xbro

Every system except the Xbox 360 had less sales this week.  Xbox 360 is making its comeback in Japan punch
117 units,blah...blame Master Chief and his deep pockets
 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Phoenix Dark on April 13, 2011, 04:45:23 PM
Everything I've seen suggests Nintendo dropped the ball with the 3DS release. The price alone determined it wouldn't be a predominant casual or youth oriented handheld, yet Nintendo treated it that way and lost. If it launched with a host of solid games for older players, things would be different. You can rely on Oprah and Nintendogs to sell something that's $150, but the 3DS is as expensive as a console. Barring a holiday launch date it wasn't going to sale gangbusters at that price, in this economy.

Meanwhile Apple laughs to the bank
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Brehvolution on April 13, 2011, 04:50:24 PM
3DS is nintendo's PS3
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Madrun Badrun on April 13, 2011, 04:54:52 PM
Everything I've seen suggests Nintendo dropped the ball with the 3DS release. The price alone determined it wouldn't be a predominant casual or youth oriented handheld, yet Nintendo treated it that way and lost. If it launched with a host of solid games for older players, things would be different. You can rely on Oprah and Nintendo Dogs to sell something that's $150, but the 3DS is as expensive as a console. Barring a holiday launch date it wasn't going to sale gangbusters at that price, in this economy.

Meanwhile Apple laughs to the bank

Didn't the DS launch at the same price or was that a Canadian thing?

edit: looks like it was only $150.  I'm surprised.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 13, 2011, 06:30:49 PM
Fucking thing doesn't even work for me. I just see 2 separate images :fbm

This is probably indicative of an eye problem, which you may or not already know about!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 13, 2011, 08:30:35 PM
It should have been $199.

I chuckle at Nintendo's arrogance regarding the pricing.  I remember where they stated around the price announcement that they could have priced it at $300 or more and it still would have done well.

I think it will sell better over time as they get more games.  New Mario and Mario Kart games are on their way and undoubtedly a Pokemon game.  Just having one of those games will lap anything the PSP2 will do, except for Monster Hunter.  Not saying that is right or fair of course.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on April 13, 2011, 08:52:08 PM
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The fishing pond looks amazing. The ground is now textured with a very nice, rocky surface and a small waterfall has been added to the back (though there’s still some clipping issues as the camera dives underwater).

(http://www.gamexplain.com/storyimages/1302738983Zelda_OcarinaofTime_SS_14.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on April 13, 2011, 08:58:36 PM
wow that looks awful
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Rman on April 13, 2011, 09:19:02 PM
Most Nintendo portables didn't really have amazing launches.  They usually catch fire with price drops and iterations on the hardware.  The first skus of the GBA and DS were ugly pieces of hardware--the SP and the Lite did much better, along with the better library by then.

Nintendo will be fine.  They own the kid market.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on April 14, 2011, 08:06:17 AM
His fishing line is made out of dots.

 :rofl

2011...believe
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Third on April 14, 2011, 10:22:58 AM
(http://www.gamexplain.com/storyimages/1302738983Zelda_OcarinaofTime_SS_14.jpg)

Damn, the N64 version looks bad nowadays. I wonder how the 3DS version will look like.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on April 14, 2011, 10:48:34 AM
The 3DS looks like even more of a joke after the psp2 was unveiled.

We said the same thing about the ds :(

Yeah and the psp ended up being the better portable.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on April 14, 2011, 11:25:55 AM
wow that looks awful

Chickens come home to roost
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on April 14, 2011, 12:33:27 PM
Damn, the N64 version looks bad nowadays. I wonder how the 3DS version will look like.

:rofl

there are other screenshot running around the web and they do look better
you know one thing that amuses me is how impressions about a souped up port are getting treated like some kind of national event just because it's "THE GREATEST GAME OF ALL TIME!!!1!"

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How many of you started your week with a special, private demo of LoZ: OoT 3D with a few of the Treehouse folks from Seattle, including an English-only Bill Trinen? That wasn't you? Pity that, because it's exactly what I did. Let's chat...

step down people! i played a 1998 game in exclusive!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 14, 2011, 01:45:02 PM
The resolution of the screen is so low and there's no AA, so you get a weird different set of jaggies in each eye -- it's super annoying when you're dealing with thin/skinny objects like light poles in the distance, fishing lines etc
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on April 14, 2011, 01:45:49 PM
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How many of you started your week with a special, private demo of LoZ: OoT 3D with a few of the Treehouse folks from Seattle, including an English-only Bill Trinen? That wasn't you? Pity that, because it's exactly what I did. Let's chat...

omg who wrote that
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on April 14, 2011, 02:11:48 PM
That quote is great :rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on April 14, 2011, 02:59:26 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=155761
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Herr Mafflard on April 15, 2011, 04:28:06 AM
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How many of you started your week with a special, private demo of LoZ: OoT 3D with a few of the Tr only Bill Trinen? That wasn't you? Pity that, because it's exactly what I did. Let's chat...
                               \
                                 \
                                   \
                                    :himu

Come,  let us idle by the fireplace while I tell you about a little something called OoT 3D.



Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on April 18, 2011, 08:35:54 AM
UK chart,again no 3DS titles in top 40

http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032 (http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=110032)



US Packman charts


(http://blog.flurry.com/Portals/41620/images/Flurry_iOS-Android_USvideoGameShare_2010.png)
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From 2009 to 2010, iOS and Android game sales increased from 5% to 8% market share within the U.S. video game market. Specifically, we estimate that iOS and Android game revenue increased from $500 million in 2009 to more than $800 million in 2010. Of this, the significant majority of revenue was generated by iPhone games. And while we do not include retail PC game revenue in our total snapshot, which we estimate was $700 million in 2010, it’s worth noting that smartphone and tablet game revenue surpassed the U.S. PC game category for the first time in 2010.


(http://blog.flurry.com/Portals/41620/images/Flurry_iOS-Android_USportableGameShare_2010.png)

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From 2009 to 2010, iOS and Android game sales have spiked significantly, resulting in nearly a doubling of their market share. With both Nintendo DS and Sony PlayStation Portable shrinking in sales, while smart-device game sales simultaneously grew by more than 60%, iOS and Android games now represent more than one third of the portable game category. The net effect is that the U.S. portable gaming category, as we define it, has declined from $2.7 billion in 2009 to roughly $2.4 billion in 2010.

Wedbush Morgan Securities video game analyst, Michael Pachter, points out that the “onslaught of $1 games is going to continue” and that "[Nintendo and Sony] are going to have to share the market with Apple and Android.” Our numbers quantify just how much. Further, as iOS and Android continue to change the paradigm of casual gaming, the battle between Nintendo against platforms such as iOS and Android will intensify. Mario may indeed be standing on a burning platform.
http://blog.flurry.com/bid/60307/Apple-and-Google-Capture-U-S-Video-Game-Market-Share-in-2010 (http://blog.flurry.com/bid/60307/Apple-and-Google-Capture-U-S-Video-Game-Market-Share-in-2010)


[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8910vbMYDMI&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on April 18, 2011, 08:55:11 AM
don't worry maxy! 3DS savior is coming! 1st place on pre-order of japanese amazon!

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/0/9/090366f6.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on April 18, 2011, 08:57:48 AM
what is that sticking out of 3DS screen?
lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on April 18, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
tits?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on April 18, 2011, 09:04:33 AM
big tits :drool
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Corporal on April 18, 2011, 12:17:20 PM
Bad, artificial tits.

Cream  :heartbeat

Plastic  :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 27, 2011, 12:36:25 AM
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/34270/Iwata_3DS_Selling_Below_Expectations_Company_Recommitting_To_Promotion.php


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The 3DS sold nearly 400,000 units in its first week of American sales, along with 371,000 Japanese sales in its first two days and 303,000 European sales in its opening weekend there.

But in a recent investor presentation, Iwata acknowledged that those brisk sales have dropped off considerably in the weeks following launch, confirming analyst reports that such a slowdown was occurring.

The company announced yesterday the 3DS had shipped 3.61 million units worldwide through the end of March, below internal projections that the system would sell 4 million units in that time.

In Japan, Iwata suggested that "the great earthquake largely affected the sales," but acknowledged that March's natural disaster could not explain sales that dropped off significantly in the U.S. and Europe after a few weeks on the shelf.

In launching the 3DS, Iwata said the company overestimated the ability of the system's glasses-free 3D screen to drive sales virally.

"We originally expected that the value of 3D images without the need for special glasses would be automatically spread to some extent by many consumers experiencing the device by themselves and ... together with people around them," he said.

Iwata said the company "recognize(s) that we are in a situation where we need to step up our efforts to further promote the spread of Nintendo 3DS" and that "it has become clear that we need to do a lot more to convey the value to consumers."

 :lol at bolded
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on April 27, 2011, 12:50:56 AM
If you can't fool launch customers then there is little hope.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 27, 2011, 12:55:17 AM
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"We originally expected that the value of 3D images without the need for special glasses would be automatically spread to some extent by many consumers experiencing the device by themselves and ... together with people around them," he said.

yeah, that whole spreading opinions around thing is probably part of the reason it's not blowing out the doors

"this fucking thing gave me a headache"

"i had to turn off the 3D because you can't move with it on"

"why did i pay $250 for this, again?"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Stoney Mason on April 27, 2011, 12:58:06 AM
I've said it before. I don't think 3D is the big thing that a lot of people selling us stuff think it is. And that's no matter what the platform is. Everybody saw Avatar make a billion dollars and they suddenly thought that's all people wanted to see all the time in every entertainment medium.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on April 27, 2011, 01:14:22 AM
3D is actually awesome in games.  The tech Nintendo uses on the 3DS solution is just so shoddy and bad.  It's not like Sony is handling 3D any better, but at least its not selling a device as this magical 3D thingamajig.  Sony is only using it as a bullet point to fool people into going with the PS3 instead of the superior Xbox 360.  And to sell TVs.

I'm hoping that 3D is revisited when the tech has caught up.  Because when I've played 3D using the Nvidia or Sony shutter glasses, or managed to sit in an uncomfortable position to be within the tiny 'sweet spot', the 3D effect was mighty neat.  It just needs to suck less.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on April 27, 2011, 11:30:05 AM
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PSP 49,162
3DS 23,038
PS3 19,033
Wii 7,866
DSi LL 7,064
DSi 6,214
Xbox 360 1,891
PS2 1,163
DS Lite 283
PSP go 265

 :shh
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on May 01, 2011, 01:42:59 PM
I was bored,copy-paste from vgcharts

Somebody nice used Nintendo,Sony,MS gaming division profits data and made this lovely chart,last two bars are one quarter short

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd387/sparks98765/ProfitsLosseschart.png)

Quite interesting,especially Nintendo data

Nintendo always wins
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on May 01, 2011, 01:46:02 PM
Nintendo's back to pre-Wii profits, it seems, which is still nearly as much as any of the others have made during a fiscal year.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 01, 2011, 03:32:52 PM
If the key feature to your device has to get turned down or off to be considered usable (or hold it in some contorted fashion), then your device is probably in big trouble.

Fortunately for Nintendo, they have some solid IPs that they can tap into.  I don't see it being anywhere near the size of the DS but it will still do nicely.  It might light a fire under Nintendo's ass to put out better titles in a hurry, rather than half assing decade-and-a-half old ports of N64 games.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Beezy on May 01, 2011, 04:07:50 PM
I forgot that this thing existed...
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 01, 2011, 04:18:29 PM
What's a 3DS
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 01, 2011, 04:18:35 PM
so did everyone else, evidently
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on May 01, 2011, 04:30:22 PM
What's a 3DS

expensive DS with 3D screen
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on May 01, 2011, 07:52:25 PM
Did they announce 3DS Lite yet?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on May 01, 2011, 11:32:12 PM
Does it have more tables than the 360/PS3 version? It better have Medieval Madness and Arabian Nights at least.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on May 02, 2011, 03:59:41 AM
killer app coming in june

sure it's just a 3D remake but you'd have to be mad to not one to take another spin with a gaming classic

spoiler (click to show/hide)
williams pinball collection 3d :hyper
[close]

Whatever happened to their XBLA HD upgrade of Gottlieb Collection?  When they announced it in November/December they were shooting for a January release... :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on May 02, 2011, 05:38:44 AM
still waiting for Williams Collection for xdude in PAL :'(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Corporal on May 02, 2011, 05:41:12 AM
"We originally expected that the value of 3D images without the need for special glasses would be automatically spread to some extent by many consumers experiencing the device by themselves and ... together with people around them," he said.
That's a bit rich since the tiny sweet spot prevents others from "experiencing the device" together with the person that's playing it. Did he not play the damn thing himself?  

Anyway, Gottlieb & Williams Pinball sims are awesome. In 3D? Fuck yes. On 3DS? Fuck no.  :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Corporal on May 02, 2011, 08:56:25 AM
Yeowch, that's quite a nosedive. Then again, the Japanese have plenty of other troubles at the moment. I wish the US/EU numbers were similarly detailed.  :-\

You can sit there crying in your coffee about the system it's on, the rest of us are going to be racking up scores that make your testicles look even smaller than they are.
What, all four of you? :lol

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four million.  :-X

Still feels worse than the DS launch. I guess in a year or two this thing might actually be worthwhile, but right now? Waste of perfectly good money. I pity anyone with a 3DS right now.
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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 02, 2011, 10:10:45 AM
People just assumed after the crazy launch of the Wii that Nintendo would be able to replicate that phenomenon. Anything less than that would be deemed by most a "disappointment."

Or something something Apple portables' level of successful launches.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Corporal on May 02, 2011, 10:17:36 AM
Poor Sega was really caught between a rock and a hard place back then. Expensive hardware with a last-minute design revision to add some 3D capabilities, oldskool close to the metal programming paradigm, and that panicked stealth launch didn't help at all. Shame I wasn't following gaming back in the days as closely as I am now. "Two hundred and ninety-nine US dollars". That must've been awesome. Oh to sit in that presentation and feel history change forever. :heart

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...come to think of it, 3DS had the 3D capabilities tacked on rather late in the design process, IIRC. And it is rather pricey. I bet their APIs aren't really up to snuff either. History repeats itself! zOMG NINTENDO DOOMED.  :o :o :o
(http://i.imgur.com/W19re.gif)

But seriously, from my perspective the 3DS had a worse launch than the DS. I happen to love Polarium, Project Rub, and Super Mario 64 had all these neat multiplayer games. DS Euro-launch was OK in my book. 3DS now has officially one single announced game that ranks on the same level of interest for me, personally. Sure, there's probably a bunch of Meteos-like stealth titles I'm not seeing but fuck that.
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Edit ah whatever. Doesn't belong here, and it's not like this hasn't been said before by others. So, has the 3DS firmware been updated already? I think I remember they didn't release the thing with a functional shop? If yes, how's the selection/interface?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on May 02, 2011, 10:18:43 AM
launches usually just need one big game from first parties, or a bunch of original and solid games to make up for it.

3ds, like the ps3, had neither.  actually worse, since Resistance had its charms.  and while 3ds had better third party games, none of them were original
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 02, 2011, 10:19:22 AM
oh saleswise they shit the bed here.  i'm just talking about software.



Oh, I thought it was a solid launch software-wise regardless of what others are saying; I rarely attempt to decide between 5 (some argue 7) decent games and end up buying three on day 1. It just needed that killer must-have game to be perfect, as I don't think SSF4 fits that bill.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on May 09, 2011, 07:42:20 AM
Steel Diver bomba,not in top 40,only in 3DS chart
http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=310019 (http://www.chart-track.co.uk/index.jsp?c=p/software/uk/latest/index_test.jsp&ct=310019)



Little bit late,3DS launch month(one week for 3DS),not much too see though.
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UK Top 10 March 2011

01-[NDS] Pokemon White Version (Nintendo) 154.000
02-[NDS] Pokemon Black Version (Nintendo) 132.000
03-[360] Homefront (THQ) 116.000
04-[360] Crysis 2 (Electronic Arts) 82.000
05-[WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft) 71.000 / 1.076.000
06-[360] Dragon Age 2 (Electronic Arts) 64.000
07-[360] Fight Night Champion (Electronic Arts) 63.000
08-[PS3] Killzone 3 (Sony) 58.000 / 115.000
09-[PS3] Fight Night Champion (Electronic Arts) 55.000
10-[WII] Zumba Fitness (505 Games) 52.000

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 09, 2011, 08:26:04 AM
There should be a social study using B&W's sales parity.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on May 09, 2011, 09:11:50 AM
indeed.  doesn't change the fact that launches are almost always shit and particularly with portables you're wasting your money jumping in during launch period.

of course the men in black show up with their flashy memory thingies after every launch period finishes so that gamers can whine anew the very next time about how the latest launch is shit and the worst launch ever.

hmm, I'd be interested to hear what the worst console launch line-up ever was? (in people's opinions).

360 launch was pretty bad...
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on May 09, 2011, 09:45:55 AM
kameo is awful. does it have easy cheevs though?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 09, 2011, 09:59:30 AM
i regret my 3ds so much
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Akala on May 09, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
Trevor McFur :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on May 09, 2011, 11:46:02 AM
360 launch was pretty bad...

WTF, the 360 had a great launch line up.

Condemned
Geometry Wars
Gun
Ridge Racer 6
Kameo
NFS Most Wanted (the best NFS game)
Call of Duty 2

and in Japan
Tetris The Grandmaster ACE (the best Tetris game)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 09, 2011, 12:06:32 PM
I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on May 09, 2011, 12:13:30 PM
At this point getting drunk and knocking down trash containers might prove somewhat useful.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on May 09, 2011, 12:53:08 PM
360 launch was pretty bad...

WTF, the 360 had a great launch line up.

Condemned
Geometry Wars
Gun
Ridge Racer 6
Kameo
NFS Most Wanted (the best NFS game)
Call of Duty 2

and in Japan
Tetris The Grandmaster ACE (the best Tetris game)

...So what you're saying is that the 360 had a pretty bad launch line-up.   :P
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on May 09, 2011, 01:38:25 PM
I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered

I'm thinking of picking up a used Japanese one while they're cheap.  Even with the "slow" sales this 17,000 yen price isn't going to hold for too long, I think.

That would be super tempting except ... region locking
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shuri on May 10, 2011, 08:54:59 AM
still havent seen a single 3ds in the wild! Anecdotal, but still weird.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: T-Short on May 10, 2011, 09:10:12 AM
launch aligned with PS3 (JP)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/583609/3dsps3.png)

hehe
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: tiesto on May 10, 2011, 09:15:11 AM
Trevor McFur and Cybermorph?  Oscar is trippin' if he thinks that's bad.

Atari is back... come pet the cat!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on May 10, 2011, 10:18:07 AM
still havent seen a single 3ds in the wild! Anecdotal, but still weird.


Same.  I don't generally leave it in sleep mode, but the few times I have and have brought the system with me, I never got anything in Street Pass.  Nobody where I live has a 3DS, it seems.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 10, 2011, 12:05:30 PM
I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered

I'm thinking of picking up a used Japanese one while they're cheap.  Even with the "slow" sales this 17,000 yen price isn't going to hold for too long, I think.

That would be super tempting except ... region locking

This

Why would you region lock a handheld
WHY WOULD YOU REGION LOCK A HANDHELD
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on May 10, 2011, 01:17:19 PM
I was planning on rushing in and scooping up a used 3DS from some bored person but I can't even be bothered

I'm thinking of picking up a used Japanese one while they're cheap.  Even with the "slow" sales this 17,000 yen price isn't going to hold for too long, I think.

That would be super tempting except ... region locking

This

Why would you region lock a handheld
WHY WOULD YOU REGION LOCK A HANDHELD

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2010/03/reggieshrugsitoff580.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Corporal on May 10, 2011, 07:34:01 PM
Apparently Nintendos TOS allow them to brick 3DS if they're used in a way Nintendo deems inappropriate.
Awesome.

DRM haters then proceed to mail them bricks.
Eh (http://defectivebydesign.org/brick-nintendo).

I got nothing.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on May 10, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
corporal - nobody got their ds bricked,it's a rumor spread by moralfags to scare people into not playing super mario bros on their DS with a proper emulator and instead pay 5$ to momma nintendo

one of the reason the rumor got spread is because they changed "illegal modification can render your console unplayable" to "illegal modification will render your console unplayable"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on May 10, 2011, 09:15:12 PM
They've bricked Wiis via updates so this threat isn't a new thing really. ::)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 10, 2011, 09:18:19 PM
They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now :bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on May 11, 2011, 01:53:51 AM
If only there were 12 other platforms to play FIFA on
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on May 11, 2011, 03:44:34 AM
They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now :bow

Time Crisis, Mega Man Legends 3, SMT game(also an SMT persona game but who gives a shit abotu persona games anyway?) and Ace Combat is also in the works for the thing.  FOr soemthing that is dying it sure is getting too much support.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on May 11, 2011, 04:51:36 AM
They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now :bow

Time Crisis, Mega Man Legends 3, SMT game(also an SMT persona game but who gives a shit abotu persona games anyway?) and Ace Combat

TC :lol , MM:L looks like a sub ps1 era game - pass, Isn't the SMT game being developed for DS then going to 3DS and Ace Combat iOS probably will be better and have more content than 3DS version not to mention be ~1/8th the price
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on May 11, 2011, 05:33:40 AM
:lol ok bad troll, MM:L does look pretty awesome, and Damian isn't talking about Devil Survivor overclocked or whatever that they're porting to 3DS then?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on May 11, 2011, 06:12:07 AM
Nah there are apparently 3 SMT games for the 3ds, SMT, SMT: persona, and SMT:DS:O.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 11, 2011, 11:49:55 AM
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They annouinced Fifa 12 for 3ds so i'm happy I got one now

did you play the other mobile versions of Fifa ?

:(


no but Pro Evo Soccer is pretty dam good and looks better than the wii version some how. FIFA 11 PSP was decent but I trust EA...hopefully  :'(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on May 11, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
[youtube=560,345]yjenpZfljKY[/youtube]

3DS :bow2

(I probably won't buy it because I have it on PSP and this is a remake with changed visuals, but if there is new content, I'll reconsider.)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2011, 12:56:07 PM
:bow

what's with the redesign?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 11, 2011, 01:00:42 PM
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no but Pro Evo Soccer is pretty dam good and looks better than the wii version some how

the 3DS version of Pro Evo is extremely disappointing - how can you be so harsh on everything yet let this huge turd sail on by ?

Too waifer thin, plays a passable game of football but the difficulties are nerfed so that it's reasonable to play in the 3D default mode, the Masters LEague is back to being an unadultared watered down bucket of shit, and -oh great- offside bugs are back :/


I have never been a Pro Evo fan so I just take it as it is. It is pretty feature thin and no online blows, but that's where i'm hoping FIFA comes in to fix it.

I pretty much made Pro Evo on DS play like FIFA though, I use the side camera and rejiggered the controls to be like the 360.

god i hope FIFA is good
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 11, 2011, 01:07:57 PM
on 3DS*
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 11, 2011, 08:25:02 PM
I'm not sure how I feel about the art direction, but at least it's much, much better than the original's. I wonder whether the change was decided based on feedback, or because they thought it would suit the new audience better :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 11, 2011, 09:25:33 PM
Yeah, I said that elsewhere, but I don't how they're planning to fit this new style into the original's depressing "journey through a human's psyche" story line, unless they plan on scrapping it altogether. If they decide to stick with it by somehow twisting in it into a more colorful interpretation, I'm sure it'll insult some of those who played the original.

But srsly, stories in my games? ELOHEL WHO CARES. amirite or amirite?

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I liked it :'(
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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on May 11, 2011, 10:45:03 PM
Crush's story was an excellent addition to an already great puzzle game. It only serviced to help make the game even greater.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on May 12, 2011, 01:54:32 AM
So another "new" game for 3DS?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on May 12, 2011, 02:07:25 AM
Seems that way.  At least to this game's credit, under 50,000 people in the entire universe have played it.

I think you are forgetting the people who shop at the PSP's most popular store.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on May 12, 2011, 02:30:46 AM
pirate bay?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on May 14, 2011, 09:36:57 AM
Oh, snap.

But seriously, is piracy THAT rampant on PSP? As an total percentage of the consoles sold?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on May 14, 2011, 11:59:41 AM
remember kids,project cafe will have awesome online hardcore capability and all the third parties por... err i mean games of the world

:bow nintendo
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 14, 2011, 01:01:28 PM
There was a time when the DS was pulling launch-numbers on a weekly basis in Japan. It still amazes me to this day, no matter how many times I check old sales numbers. Even though the PSP is doing well in Japan right now, selling almost twice as much DSes on a semi-consistent basis, it's still 15 million units behind.

32 million units in Japan, people. Absolutely BONKERS!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on May 14, 2011, 01:20:25 PM
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Remember, Borys, nothing Nintendo does makes Nintendo weep.  It only makes nintendo fans weep.

fixed!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on May 14, 2011, 02:12:39 PM
Crush is my favorite psp game. That said, I'm not sure if I'll get the remake because it doesn't really look like Crush and I already own the damn game. We'll see.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 14, 2011, 03:27:19 PM
Nintendo will always be successful because they almost always sell their hardware at cost or for a profit.  That and there are always several million people that will always be around to get the next Mario, Mario Kart, Pokeymans, and Zelda.  Sony and Microsoft prefer selling consoles at a steep loss at launch, hoping software sales, accessories, online gaming, etc. will cover the losses.  This only works with Microsoft and Sony because they have such a large amount of assets that they can absorb a massive blow.  The PS3 lost over $5 billion and Sony still continued.  This strategy was proven to be disastrous for gaming only companies, like Sega.  It's rational that Nintendo sell their shit at break even prices at the worst.

Which is why Project Cafe will probably be $299 minimum with those tablet-controllers going for at least $89, if not $99 a pop.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 14, 2011, 05:02:03 PM
as long as Cafe has one game that rocks, then i can live with it. I'm easily pleased. Infact, if your hardware is not pleasing me you are doing something wrong.



I will probably get a Cafe so I can replay Mario Galaxy again and play Mario Galaxy 2.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 14, 2011, 05:07:42 PM
I'm easily pleased as well, so if Nintendo deliver the promise of housing a broad range of Western multiplatforms and up-ports, provided they end up being the superior console versions and the kooky controller doesn't stand in the way of that, I'll be there day 1.

Edit: Somehow I think that's asking too much of Nintendo.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 14, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
predictions on the percentage of broken controllers the week after launch

i'm gonna go wild here and say 25%
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 14, 2011, 05:28:24 PM
I'm easily pleased as well, so if Nintendo deliver the promise of housing a broad range of Western multiplatforms and up-ports, provided they end up being the superior console versions and the kooky controller doesn't stand in the way of that, I'll be there day 1.

Edit: Somehow I think that's asking too much of Nintendo.

You are.  This is Nintendo, a company that has a relationship with third parties that can be best described as hostile.  Combine that with past experiences where developers just ignored their current console because it was too underpowered and you pretty much have what will happen with the Cafe.  Expect Wii level third party support (ie, shit level original titles, marginally warmed up last gen ports, and/or oft delayed current gen ports that look disastrous) as Nintendo seems to be repeating the crucial mistake of keeping their console technology in the 360/PS3 era.  You'd sooner be seeing Carnival Games 5 than the next Fallout or Elder Scrolls on the thing.

Personally I just expect the typical Nintendo fare, maybe a cool original third party game or two, and that's it.  Same as the Nintendo 64, Game Cube, and the Wii.  As shown with the Wii, western developers would rather gamble on solvency with their next ambitious current gen title than settle for the Wii.  That and used the Wii to just dump shitware so they can get enough revenue to develop a current generation title for the 360/PS3.  I don't see that changing much, especially if they have to invest a lot of money changing their gameplay format for the tablet-controller.  Although Nintards will be hyping the hell out of the Cafe equivalents of Elebits and The Conduit.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 14, 2011, 07:49:38 PM
So adorable :heart

Please don't fuck him up.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on May 14, 2011, 07:50:54 PM
BUT

HE'S TOO YOUNG TO VIEW 3D
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 15, 2011, 02:06:01 PM
This just in: Apparently the design of the 3DS is such that it scratches its own screen  :lol

(http://cdn2.ubergizmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/3DS-screen-scratches.jpg)

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 15, 2011, 02:24:58 PM
I saw that. Absolutely hilarious. Apparently everyone has it, but never noticed it until that thread popped up.
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Post by: Diunx on May 15, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on May 15, 2011, 04:29:43 PM
I saw that. Absolutely hilarious. Apparently everyone has it, but never noticed it until that thread popped up.

I have noticed those "scratches" on my 3DS in the past.

And then I just wiped them off.   ;)  I think they come from certain cases.  The one I have has a space for an AC adapter, and it tends to put a little too much force on the 3DS when the case is closed.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 15, 2011, 04:46:47 PM
I haven't been experiencing them on mine, but that's probably because I haven't put more than 5 hours into it. I still have the foam film that came with it, so I'm gonna start using it.

It just strikes me as a really odd oversight, and even though it's less severe and not as inconvenient as broken hinges, it certainly makes Nintendo look much stupider. Everyone thought the decision to produce unequal screens was distinguished mentally-challenged, and today everyone is vindicated.

Except Brandnew, he's so disgustingly drunk on Iwata's cum he prolly thought it was a magnificent idea.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on May 15, 2011, 05:32:51 PM
Proving once again that early adaptors = beta testers. Will wait for lite version at sub $200
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 15, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
:bow 3DS Lite :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: originalz on May 15, 2011, 09:22:25 PM
Yeah, I have those scratches too.  I was wondering where they came from.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on May 15, 2011, 10:05:33 PM
I saw that. Absolutely hilarious. Apparently everyone has it, but never noticed it until that thread popped up.

because there hasn't been a reason to use the 3DS and see the scratches

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 16, 2011, 02:15:48 PM
I noticed the scratches on my brothers 3ds too.  It does mess up the 3d bad, causes double vision except on like the lowest setting. His circle pad even left a ring on the top half of the unit too, although I think that was just crusty grease.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 16, 2011, 02:34:00 PM
I am so glad I didn't buy this piece of siht.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on May 16, 2011, 02:59:31 PM
aahahaha wow

i'll wait for a 3ds lite
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: originalz on May 17, 2011, 02:38:44 AM
Yeah, the scratches don't have any effect on the actual screen quality or 3D or whatever.  I don't even notice them when I'm playing a game.  It just put a nice box exactly the same size as the lower screen border.

Still, I'm sure they'll find a way to fix it and replace units, like they did with the DSLite hinge.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 17, 2011, 10:17:00 PM
This console might be worse than wii
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 17, 2011, 10:21:04 PM
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No doubt this is disappointing news for 3DS owners, particularly given that it contradicts the game’s first press release issued last week.

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/3DS/FIFA+12/news.asp?c=29910

yep so much bullshit I dont een know why I got this pos console
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on May 18, 2011, 12:50:43 PM
uh...
[youtube=560,345]owyO05rFM-I[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on May 18, 2011, 12:54:15 PM
Quadrillion-seller confirmed.

If the game has good online play, I'm all over it though.  I just hope there's a way to play tag mode with the player in control of BOTH characters.  I read that they changed it so that the CPU controls your partner.  WTF?   :lol :-\
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on May 18, 2011, 04:22:07 PM
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PSP 34,655
3DS 18,324
PS3 13,789
Wii 6,336
DSi LL 5,358
DSi 5,292
Xbox 360 2,763
PS2 1,319
DS Lite 208
PSP go 171


 ???


/not surprised
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on May 18, 2011, 08:41:35 PM
they even made a point of pretty much saying "this isn't gonna be like all our other launch dry spells!"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 18, 2011, 08:58:36 PM
Can the the 3DS pull a DS and ignite the charts the same way, or are we in a different time where the impact of Nintendo's hard-hitting IPs (beside Pokemon, I assume) will be much softer, is the real question. I'm tired of debating whether the boom of the smartphone market and dollar apps have actually changed the face of the competition or not, especially since most of the data we have are inconclusive. Luckily we'll have our definite answer by year's end, that is when Mario Kart 3DS and Super Mario 3DS will be released. We'll see whether the 3DS can turn around its fortune by then, or not.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 18, 2011, 09:26:14 PM
3D, as of now, has definitely been a dud in my opinion, and whether Miyamoto-sama can actually cook something zany and kooky that would tackle the tech from a different perspective or not, as the recent hopeful rumors stated, remains to be seen. Also, is it just me or were they betting on the gyro and pack-in AR cards to drive sales the same way Wii Sports did?

Either way, when we discount those two features of the 3DS, we end up with a DS. So if Nintendo can't think of something original in the vein of Nintendogs and Brain age using those unique features, they're fucked. They already blew all of their original touch-based ideas last gen, and as the disappointing sales of Dogs+Cats have already showed, they can't even fall back on said last gen touch-based ideas.

Anyhow, only time will tell. I look forward to looking back at these discussions and either patting myself on the back or pointing and laughing.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 18, 2011, 09:49:57 PM
Edit: Oops, I didn't realize I just said the same thing people did a few posts above me, while being better written.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 18, 2011, 10:36:06 PM
Yeah, they're profit's forecasts may get revised and shrink, but they'll always turn a profit. I don't think "they're fucked" in the same sense of "omg third party going they are!"

I also wonder about the plausibility of arguments insisting that "if the 3DS can't move and shake the charts, NGP is DOA!" because if we look at Japan, the only territory where the PSP is relevant and thus can be studied, the audience and market are well defined and don't overlap with Apple's model as much as a the DS/3DS. The NGP can match the PSP's (or even 3DS) weekly sales and still be considered a success. Obviously because of the different, and much lower, expectations. So in that regard, Sony may actually be in a better shape, if they price their new handheld correctly and insure a steady flow of quality software, like the one the PSP is currently enjoying.

Also, as previously stated, if Nintendo ends up running out of ideas and fail at attracting the casual market that pushed the DS to those unexpected highs, people will eventually adjust those expectations, and move that goal post way back and closer to where the PSP is (right next to GBA's if I'm not mistaken) simply because without those expectations -- and casual appeal -- the 3DS, much like the NGP, will be directly competing with/targeting the very conservative, yet still viable, PSP market.

Do I sound like a broken record? I think I sound like a broken record.

Edit: T EXP, why did you edit? now I look like fool. :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on May 18, 2011, 11:02:34 PM
I think the NGP is in good shape for Japan, it's going to get absolutely fucked everywhere else though.
So just like the PSP then!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 18, 2011, 11:09:18 PM
I think the NGP is in good shape for Japan, it's going to get absolutely fucked everywhere else though.

:'(

What can it possibly do to not be absolutely-fucked-everywhere-else, realistically speaking? I'm not even talking about how it can become a smashing success, just how to avoid being as colossally embarrassing as the PSP software/hardware sales-wise.

Well, Sony can't be arsed to make a new business plan, don't see why I should be arsed to make a new prediction.

:'( :'( :'(

My poor, poor, future handheld of choice.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on May 18, 2011, 11:21:51 PM
As a friend said, PS2 and NDS were the peaks for console and handheld and i can't see that level of single success ever happening again.

Eh, this kind of thing gets said every few years.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on May 18, 2011, 11:22:22 PM
Not being the easiest system to pirate since dreamcast might help. Good games and heavy $$) good marketing + affordable entry price + sell it as x360mini w/fps, good online, cheevs.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on May 18, 2011, 11:28:13 PM
I'm really interested to see how the PSP2 will do.  Unless there is a colossal cock up when Sony unzips its pants at E3, it's pretty much the dream handheld. 

I just don't know what type of audience really plays handhelds (outside of children, and nintendo got those dummies locked down).  Then again, I didn't see the appeal of a tablet until one came out.  The PSP2 seems almost tablet-like with the large screen and sacrificing pocketability for features and performance.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 19, 2011, 12:03:39 AM
I just wanna say, that if we were having this discussion elsewhere, there would be at least a dozen people cockatooing "PSsuite!", and how it's very important and relevant in today's smartphone and tablet market. Personally speaking, I think it's a stupid distraction for both developers and gamers.

Just watch it crash and burn. It was doomed the minute it was dubbed an initiative. Sony can't do initiatives people!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on May 19, 2011, 03:34:59 AM
I never finished Chaos Rings.  It was ok.  Kind of nice looking/sounding, some interesting systems, but too easy and kind of boring repetitive.  Basically the same as the last few Wild Arms games (not counting the srpg one).  I've never really been a fan of these guys.  They remind me of level 5 but less bad but still just kind of standard boring.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 19, 2011, 09:30:28 AM
I'm not a smart enough guy to know which way is the path to success, but I'm reasonably sure that path is not "PS1 games in 2011".

Didn't you read? So far all the titles on PSsuite have sold UNDER A 1000 COPIES  :lol

The Xperia play (single core phone in a dual core market, wtf was SE thinking? If you release a gamephone it should be with new hardware) is a failure and so is PSsuite.

To be fair...

- PSuite is a development framework, meant to cultivate more than PSX games (apps and games) by "lowering the entry barrier even lower than minis yet still insuring the same quality you've come to expect of the PS brand [sic]."
- The Xperia Play sold like dog shit, if I'm not mistaken. Android users are cheap, can't be arsed to drop a single dollar, let alone five, if they Android market revenues is anything to go by.

However, having said that...

- Ouch.
- Watch it perform just as disappointingly on the NGP.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on May 19, 2011, 09:55:04 AM
The only thing Android fegs will pay for is more Google ads.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on May 23, 2011, 04:00:39 AM
Proving once again that early adaptors = beta testers. Will wait for lite version at sub $200
:lol @thinking this will get a superior hardware rev.

cough
VIRTUAL BOY 2
/cough
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on May 25, 2011, 11:09:51 AM
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Akiba's Trip - 58k
Dead or Alive Dimensions - 23k

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PSP 30,463
3DS 17,240
PS3 12,935
Wii 6,269
DSi LL 5,176
DSi 4,938
Xbox 360 2,186
PS2 1,129
DS Lite 158
PSP go 65

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01. / 00.  [PSP] Akiba's Trip (Acquire) {2011.05.19} - 58.150 / NEW
02. / 00. [3DS] Dead or Alive: Dimensions (Koei Tecmo) {2011.05.19} - 23.078 / NEW
03. / 01. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 - Professional (Square Enix) {2011.03.31} - 19.290 / 494.793 (-7%)
04. / 00. [PSP] Gungnir: Mayari no Gunshin to Eiyuu Sensou (Atlus Co.) {2011.05.19} - 16.355 / NEW
05. / 05. [PSP] Patapon 3 (SCE) {2011.04.28} - 11.458 / 95.341 (-12%)
06. / 00. [PS3] Portal 2 (Electronic Arts) {2011.05.19} - 8.942 / NEW
07. / 06. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) {2011.04.14} - 8.032 / 160.066 (-21%)
08. / 11. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} - 5.043 / 1.891.324 (+8%)
09. / 14. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} - 4.767 / 5.181.982 (+9%)
10. / 03. [3DS] Steel Diver (Nintendo) {2011.05.12} - 4.583 / 21.991 (-74%)
11. / 09. [PS3] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) {2011.04.14} - 4.401 / 151.465 (-33%)
12. / 10. [PSP] Dai-2-Ji Super Robot Wars Z: Hakai-hen (Bandai Namco) {2011.04.14} - 4.100 / 403.064 (-35%)
13. / 12. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (Capcom) {2010.12.01} - 3.902 / 4.474.713 (-15%)
14. / 04. [PSP] Suzumiya Haruhi no Tsuisou (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.12} - 3.758 / 18.711 (-75%)
15. / 00. [PSP] Elminage Original: Majo to Megami to Kamigami no Yubiwa (Starfish) {2011.05.19} - 3.625 / NEW
16. / 18. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} - 3.562 / 3.228.399 (-2%)
17. / 02. [PS3] Suzumiya Haruhi no Tsuisou (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.12} - 3.529 / 22.360 (-81%)
18. / 08. [PSP] Final Promise Story (Image Epoch) {2011.04.28} - 3.518 / 89.054 (-49%)
19. / 00. [360] Portal 2 (Electronic Arts) {2011.05.19} - 3.468 / NEW
20. / 16. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} - 3.192 / 221.708 (-13%)

Portal 2 bomba

3DS hardware seems to be stabilizing,my prediction...10-20k until some hit game(holidays) arrives 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on May 25, 2011, 01:14:10 PM
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stripping vampire lolis > badass samurai action

amen! :bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on May 31, 2011, 12:19:21 PM
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REDMOND, Wash.–(BUSINESS WIRE)– The portable Nintendo DS™ Lite system is getting a new suggested retail price. Effective June 5, the system will be available at a suggested retail price of just $99.99 in the United States. The Nintendo DS family has become the best-selling video game system in history. More than 48.9 million systems in the Nintendo DS family have sold in the United States alone. Also in June, six Mario™ games for Nintendo DS will receive new red packaging, making it easier than ever for consumers to identify these hit titles in stores.

“From the moment it launched, Nintendo DS Lite hit a sweet spot for consumers in terms of value, experience and fun,” said Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime. “This new price point will introduce Nintendo DS Lite to even more consumers, and the new red packaging will make it easy for them to find their favorite Mario titles.”

The six Mario games that will begin sporting the new Mario-red packaging in June are New Super Mario Bros.™, Mario Kart™ DS, Super Mario 64™ DS, Mario & Luigi™: Bowser’s Inside Story, Mario vs. Donkey Kong™: Mini-Land Mayhem! and Mario Party™ DS. These games represent some of the best-selling fan-favorite Nintendo DS games of all time, and demonstrate the well-known “evergreen” sales trend of Nintendo games. Their total U.S. sales through the end of April 2011 according to the NPD Group are as follows:

New Super Mario Bros.: more than 9.25 million units
Mario Kart DS: more than 7.40 million units
Super Mario 64 DS: more than 4.34 million units
Mario Party DS: more than 3.27 million units
Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story: more than 1.98 million units
Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Mini-Land Mayhem!: more than 1.01 million units

Mario is one of the most beloved video game characters and the top video game franchise of all time. Thirty-one Mario games have topped sales of more than 1 million units since 1995, more than any other franchise. Through the end of March 2011, more than 262 million games in the core Super Mario™ series have sold worldwide.

For more information about Nintendo DS Lite, visit http://www.nintendo.com/ds.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 01:09:35 PM
Quote from: TripleA
The 3DS is sounding more and more like the PSP1.
October 8th, 2010.
http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35342.msg1215426#msg1215426 (http://www.evilbore.com/forum/index.php?topic=35342.msg1215426#msg1215426)

The wise saw the shortcomings.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on May 31, 2011, 01:12:15 PM
oh wow, the 3ds is sounding like the best portable system ever made

when should i buy one for myself?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 01:22:45 PM
As time passes by, it's looking like Sony made the right decision to not pursue 3D technology for their upcoming handheld.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 31, 2011, 01:23:50 PM
I accidentally read that as "3DS gets a price drop" and was like "Oh wow, thank god, common sense"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 01:39:04 PM
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/548/iwasright.jpg)

While it's too early to call the 3DS an outright failure, it's certainly been a disaster for Nintendo thus far.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 01:45:35 PM
I just wanna say, that if we were having this discussion elsewhere, there would be at least a dozen people cockatooing "PSsuite!", and how it's very important and relevant in today's smartphone and tablet market. Personally speaking, I think it's a stupid distraction for both developers and gamers.

Then you'd be completely fucking wrong.

The only way the PS Suite fails is if Sony fails to support it. Because conceptually it's a genius initiative.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 31, 2011, 01:50:54 PM
Oh god someone get rid of him again
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 01:55:14 PM
Oh god someone get rid of him again

 :rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on May 31, 2011, 02:18:36 PM
:bow Triple A :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on May 31, 2011, 02:24:43 PM
As time passes by, it's looking like Sony made the right decision to not pursue 3D technology for their upcoming handheld.

wasn't there a 3D and move patent pic a while ago?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 03:30:46 PM
As time passes by, it's looking like Sony made the right decision to not pursue 3D technology for their upcoming handheld.

wasn't there a 3D and move patent pic a while ago?


(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1017/75457209.jpg)

The NGP can do head tracking, but that's about it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 03:33:01 PM
Oh you're back, and just when I started to enjoy the gaming section.

Problem?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on May 31, 2011, 03:41:20 PM
Excellent.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on May 31, 2011, 05:36:02 PM
3DS needs:

1- More games
2- Some R4 chip
3- 3DS Lite

Otherwise it will remain a failure.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on May 31, 2011, 11:42:19 PM
I thought the ds lite was no longer manufactured?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on May 31, 2011, 11:49:58 PM
Triple A you are the new me, you are a great troll who no one recognizes it even makes me tear up a lil bit  :'(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on June 01, 2011, 01:05:53 AM
Great minds are almost always right
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 01, 2011, 01:29:59 AM
I only see myself buying a 3DS if theres a new IGAvania for it. Which, incidentally is what sold me a DS Phat back in the day.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: drew on June 01, 2011, 01:40:36 AM
so what exactly is bad about this thing? i played one in a best buy and thought it was pretty cool, and i hated the ds lite, HATED.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 01, 2011, 01:51:59 AM
well it's basically the same old problems which have affected new consoles for generations. High price tag and lack of software.

I'm sure 3DS will be worth owning in a couple of years.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 01, 2011, 02:05:12 AM
RE downgrade? Whut
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 01, 2011, 02:09:44 AM
the RE: Mercenaries game thats coming out soon?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 01, 2011, 02:24:30 AM
Am I to believe that the final version will be downgraded from the screenies we've seen before tho
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 01, 2011, 02:28:33 AM
nah I think DC is just referring to the fact it's a ported down minigame from RE4/5
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 02:36:03 AM
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So why aren't people buying Nintendo's new system? As part of a survey conducted last month, Goo Research asked its monitors the reason they haven't bought the 3DS. It posted the results of the 1,110 person (39.5% male, 60.5% female) survey at Goo Ranking today.

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    * 1. Price is high/waiting for a price drop
    * 2. Satisfied by DS/DSi
    * 3. Worried about eye strain
    * 4. Worried about getting sick from the screen
    * 5. Few launch titles
    * 6. Will buy once a game I want is released
    * 7. Satisfied by cell phone and smartphone games
    * 8. Satisfied by PSP
    * 9. The battery is weak
    * 10. It's heavy and I don't feel like carrying it with me

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/01/goo_3ds_survey/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/01/goo_3ds_survey/)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 01, 2011, 02:51:32 AM
This is what you get when you price your hardware based on the drooling reception from E3 fanthings
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 02:56:27 AM
cafe to cost $599 then
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 01, 2011, 03:02:36 AM
bwhahahaha. Can't wait for E3. Gonna try and pull an all nighter to watch the shit
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 03:53:40 AM
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Sony is not ruling out the use of 3D technology for PlayStation small-screen devices such as NGP, the company has said.

Yet the firm told Develop that its current strategy for the PSP successor is to build a “pure gaming device”.

Mick Hocking, the director of Sony WorldWide Studios’ 3D team, told Develop that small-screen 3D technology is “rapidly improving”.

“The amount of new 3D mobile devices at this year’s CES show is evidence of that,” he said. “As small screen 3D improves we may be able to deliver these high quality 3D experiences on smaller screens."

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44548/Sony-hints-at-portable-3D (http://www.mcvuk.com/news/44548/Sony-hints-at-portable-3D)

bwahahaha

PS Vita 3D

updated 3DS poll,by andriasang

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    * 1. Price is high/waiting for a price drop
    * 2. Satisfied by DS/DSi
    * 3. Worried about eye strain
    * 4. Worried about getting sick from the screen
    * 5. Few launch titles
    * 6. Will buy once a game I want is released
    * 7. Satisfied by cell phone and smartphone games
    * 8. Satisfied by PSP
    * 9. The battery is weak
    * 10. It's heavy and I don't feel like carrying it with me
    * 11. Can't play Game Boy Advance games
    * 12. The color I want isn't available
    * 13. Can't play Game Boy games
    * 14. I'll save my money for NGP, thank you very much
    * 15. Waiting for a version with a larger screen
    * 16. Because you can't move your DSi Points over
    * 17. The buttons layout looks hard to use
    * 18. No Famicom/NES in the Virtual Console
    * 19. The zoom view for DS games is hard on the eyes
    * 20. Waiting until my friend buys it
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 01, 2011, 04:29:45 AM
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13. Can't play Game Boy games
    * 14. I'll save my money for NGP, thank you very much

More people care about GameBoy games than NGP
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 04:52:21 AM
ah
capcom :piss2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 05:11:21 AM
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if Sony shoe horn an OPTIONAL 3D screen into the PSP2 then they have a real chance of burying the 3DS.

I don't find it likely for PS Vita launch,but for some future iteration definitely...good thing about 3D--it has to be optional

PS Vita 2000 3D :bow2

Nintendo kinda jumped the gun in this case,portable 3D is a very easy thing to copy--just release some model with 3D screen,done.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 01, 2011, 05:22:13 AM
I can't imagine them pushing in a 3D screen if they're cutting back on RAM :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 01, 2011, 05:27:53 AM
wow what a massive downgrade for RE. Those original shots were probably the only thing that got me excited about the 3DS hardware.

Let's be honest, the 3D was always gonna be a gimmick, and if that's indicative of the graphics quality of one of its best looking games then... no thanks. What reason is there in owning a 3DS over a PSP?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 01, 2011, 05:28:06 AM
ah
capcom :piss2

:rofl
i remember people picking resident evil as an example of THE AWESOME 3DS GRAPHIX!!1!

when will ever people learn to not trust bullshots? :(

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Nintendo kinda jumped the gun in this case,portable 3D is a very easy thing to copy--just release some model with 3D screen,done.

is it really that simple? don't game need to be done in 3D to begin with? i don't think they can just start to re-release games in 3D after a while....
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 05:33:10 AM
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is it really that simple? don't game need to be done in 3D to begin with? i don't think they can just start to re-release games in 3D after a while....

Yes,but they don't have to re-release.It would be just like any new PS360 3D game,if you have 3D TV you can play in 3D if not play in 2D.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 01, 2011, 05:53:59 AM
i tought each game needed some 3d coding or something? like could you play uncharted in 3D now even if it was released well before all this 3d bullshit began?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 06:21:08 AM
I was thinking about new games.3D needs some extra coding but nothing complicated,if you have the grunt.

Lots of 3D TVs have 2D->3D transformation,not as good as native 3D but who cares.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on June 01, 2011, 06:22:30 AM
i tought each game needed some 3d coding or something? like could you play uncharted in 3D now even if it was released well before all this 3d bullshit began?

I dunno about PS3, pretty sure they just release patches to optimise for 3D viewing, there still needs to be some sorta software running to enable 3D viewing but it doesn't require a game already modelled and renderred in a 3D engine to be optimised. For instance, there's lots of games on PC you can play with NVidia's 3d vision thingie that aren't optimised for 3D viewing but work because 3D is inherently there, though this usually results in things like nice 3d landscapes popping out at you accompanied by a boring flat skybox, so games still definitely benefit from optimisation. So yeah, usually a game would just require a small patch to enable 3D.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 01, 2011, 09:06:14 AM
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b263/Luigi_V/2132449893_full.jpg)

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/01/playable_mgs3d/ (http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/01/playable_mgs3d/)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 01, 2011, 09:06:56 AM
I remember calling the RE screens bullshots, :bow me :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 01, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
DAT DOWNGRADE
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on June 01, 2011, 04:15:50 PM
RE is downgraded? wut
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 01, 2011, 04:22:32 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnqcgpxexE&feature=player_embedded#at=86[/youtube]

video doesn't look bad
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on June 01, 2011, 04:24:19 PM
I don't care about Mercenaries though.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 02, 2011, 11:22:45 AM
I can't believe it was even in your purchase list at some point IT'S A $40 MINIGAME!!!!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 02, 2011, 09:39:12 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/M3ycC.jpg)
 :lol :lol :lol :lol

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TripleA on June 02, 2011, 10:12:14 PM
 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on June 03, 2011, 02:46:42 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-g0SpgMTOo[/youtube]

Doesnt look bad.


Meanwhile MGS on 3ds looks terrible.  Ironically it still looks better then the psp game:

(http://pspmedia.ign.com/psp/image/article/109/1095722/metal-gear-solid-peace-walker-20100608044523412.jpg)

So i assume that Team Kojima is getting worse over time.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 03, 2011, 05:41:52 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjAW2jzVZhk&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on June 03, 2011, 05:49:12 AM
You know how i said TeamKojima was losing their touch?  I just saw their "fox engine".   :o :o
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 05:51:16 AM
From Hachima's blog, from Stringfellow

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5785265179_db1de47b22_b.jpg)

if i'm being VERY generous i could possibly say that it's just a contrast/tweaking thing but ... i'm not generous so i'm going with MASSIVE DOWNGRADE instead.



Hahahaha that's horrible.

Nintendo better drop that price to 129 to compete with the PSP1.

Same will happen with Project Cafe I'm sure.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 03, 2011, 06:04:50 AM
posted this on konami thread,posting this here too

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/7/9/79475c6d-s.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 06:05:08 AM
Sony got one thing right with the NGP, they know that to compete against mobile phones they have to present added value to the customer in the form of big budget AAA titles and AAA graphics if they want to charge premium prices, I don't know if it will pay off, but they got the right idea.

Nintendo really doesn't get the market it seems.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on June 03, 2011, 06:09:09 AM
Wow they must have splurged all the polygon budget on the faces of MGS peacewalker.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 06:10:18 AM
2 of these games are $40, one is $5.

Two companies got it right, one didn't.

Two are on handhelds that can only play games, one is on a phone.

(http://ps3life.nl/data/upl/2011/0602xos1307020219199.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/M3ycC.jpg)

(http://ipadgames.org/wp-content/uploads/Shadow-Guardian-HD.jpg)

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on June 03, 2011, 06:13:29 AM
I really wish that phones had d-pads and buttons.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 03, 2011, 06:15:10 AM
bah,Nintendo portable audience is not on forums or cares about teh graphics

Market has changed for sure,but Nintendo portable audience should never be underestimated.

just saying
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 06:23:38 AM
Nintendo's audience is growing up with social networking, being online and mobile phones.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 03, 2011, 06:36:45 AM
Well to be fair, MGS3 is 10 times better than both games. I'd gladly drop $40 if it wasn't for the HD collection.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 06:44:21 AM
Yeah but you're hardcore.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 07:52:44 AM
I just grabbed a few screens.

How big is the 3DS screen?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on June 03, 2011, 08:02:21 AM
Oh wow...RE 3DS looks very bad.

I can't believe I hyped this POS of a handheld.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 03, 2011, 08:04:18 AM
the Uncharted NGP pic Premium Lager posted was cropped, they're actually quite large


http://i.imgur.com/g3mgl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/edcQv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kVWjr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ie9v3.jpg
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 08:05:27 AM
Kind of bullshots at that resolution though.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 03, 2011, 08:41:53 AM
posted this on konami thread,posting this here too

(http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/hatima/imgs/7/9/79475c6d-s.jpg)

Let's be fair here...that's a bullshot Peacewalker image.  The game is extremely grainy.

From Hachima's blog, from Stringfellow

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5108/5785265179_db1de47b22_b.jpg)

if i'm being VERY generous i could possibly say that it's just a contrast/tweaking thing but ... i'm not generous so i'm going with MASSIVE DOWNGRADE instead.



Hahahaha that's horrible.

Nintendo better drop that price to 129 to compete with the PSP1.

Same will happen with Project Cafe I'm sure.

I'm going with shitty stream screencaps on this one, sorry.  We've already seen videos of that demo in action...it looks great.  Both RE titles and that upcoming Labrynth game seem to be the showcase titles for the 3DS. 

But if Capcom can get RE looking that great on 3DS, it's only gonna get much better on the new PSP.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 03, 2011, 09:30:45 AM
That screen is 800x480.  The 3DS's screen is 400x240.  So I guess it should look like this:

(http://i.imgur.com/YHIah.jpg)

As I expected, it still looks like shit, but at least we're kicking the 3DS in the spleen *fairly* now.

Looks much better tbh. NGP res should have been slightly higher imho, like the new HTC Sensation phone.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mrbob on June 05, 2011, 11:17:52 PM
I really wish that phones had d-pads and buttons.

Just need to wait for apple to offer an Iphone/Itouch/Ipad with Haptic technology built in.  This is what I'm waiting for before I upgrade my 3G touch.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 05, 2011, 11:19:42 PM
Will it be too soon to declare the 3DS dead after e3?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 05, 2011, 11:26:57 PM
dead sales or software wise?

it has a new Mario by the people who made Galaxy.  That's A game to play.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 05, 2011, 11:28:47 PM
whoops wrong thread.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 06, 2011, 04:41:27 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY9PgAaBVZ0&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 06, 2011, 05:23:14 AM
you know,when i say it,it sounds like i'm being a creepy japanophile but i never understood those guys making joke like that

i mean they are anime character,they have no age! this remind me a whole fallacy with an atelier game where the japanese site dictated the main character was 15 but the american one said 18 to avoid any dissense

and they could do that because as i said anime character have no age other than whatever numbers between 15 and 20 (or 200 if they decide so) the creator decide to slap to them

and of course it's stupid that there are tits and ass flying everywhere,but comic creator do the same (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MostCommonSuperPower) and nobody ever complains,i call a double standard!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 06, 2011, 05:35:07 AM
oh i understand that but reading all of the "oh japan..." comment on neogaf sometimes it seems i'm the only one i understand that >:(

of course when later on they ban dead or alive then everybody gets to rage on and stops being "oh japan...." :smug
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 06, 2011, 07:18:02 AM
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UK sales April, 2011 (famitsu)

Top 10
01 [WII] Zumba Fitness  92,000 / 144,000
02 [360] Portal 2  62,000
03 [PS3] Mortal Kombat  48,000
04 [360] Mortal Kombat  44,000
05 [PS3] Portal 2  39,000
06 [360] Crysis 2  36,000 / 118,000
07 [NDS] Pokemon Black Version  36,000 / 168,000
08 [NDS] Pokemon White Version  36,000 / 188,000
09 [WII] Wii Fit Plus  34,000
10 [WII] Just Dance 2  30,000 / 1,106,000

Total sales April 2011 <- April 2010
Units 3,018,630 <- 3,203,139 (-5.8%)
Value(Ł) 69,5M <- 68,1M (+1.8%)


Unit Sales by Publisher
01 (01) Electronic Arts 21.4% (645k)
02 (02) Nintendo 10.5% (317k)
03 (03) Ubisoft 8.3% (250k)
04 (05) Activision 6.2% (187k)
05 (04) THQ 5.7% (172k)
06 (17) Warner Bros. 5.5% (166k)
07 (14) 505 Games 4.2% (127k)
08 (08) Take-Two 4.0% (121k)
09 (06) Sega 3.7% (112k)
10 (07) Sony 3.7% (112k)
_ (_) Others 26.8% (808k)


Unit Sales by platform
01 (01) 360 30.6% (923k)
02 (03) PS3 22.6% (682k)
03 (04) Wii 16.5% (498k)
04 (02) NDS 15.2% (458k)
05 (05) PC  10.5% (317k)
06 (07) PSP  2.3% (69k)
07 (06) 3DS  2.3% (69k)

08 (08) PS2  0.1% (3k)

 :omg
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 06, 2011, 09:32:43 AM
Annihilated in the UK :o
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Hitler Stole My Potato on June 06, 2011, 09:46:13 AM
WAIT 'TIL SPACEWORLD

They better announce a ton of shit for the 3DS and get it out there quick because I don't know why anyone would rush out there to buy a $250 paper weight for another version of Ocarina.  The 3DS isn't looking so hot.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 06, 2011, 10:05:30 AM
It never did.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on June 14, 2011, 07:42:41 AM
It's so strange to walk into major retailers and see them with Nintendo stock so soon after launch.

Stranger still to see so many places with discounted Nintendo hardware, so soon after launch.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 15, 2011, 09:39:15 AM
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-15-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d-review (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-15-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d-review)

10/10

Savior has arrived
 :smug

 :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 15, 2011, 09:51:15 AM
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It's a wonderful thing, but as a result it's relatively easy to get lost or stuck

stuck? in ocarina? oh god :rofl

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two qualities that I personally feel have atrophied over the past decade as games have become increasingly terrified to let you work anything out for yourself.

2 sentences later

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The modern answer to this is the inclusion of Shiekah Stones, giant Gossip Stones that appear in the Temple of Time and other start points. (There's still no autosave; turn the game off and you'll resume at the start of whichever dungeon you're exploring, in little Link's treehouse, or in the Temple. Instead of saving and quitting, it's much more convenient to close the 3DS lid.)

These offer video clips that show you where to go next, or illustrate the answers to tricky puzzles

MODERN GAMES ARE SCARED OF LETTING YOU FIGURE THINGS BUT IT'S A GOOD THING THAT ZELDA HAS THESE HELPFUL VIDEO THAT TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT TO DO NEXT

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif) (http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/cGxgi.gif)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 15, 2011, 09:56:13 AM
Nintards being idiots? Shocking!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 15, 2011, 10:04:50 AM
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That's another thing that has been largely forgotten since Ocarina of Time first came out: the joy of traversal. If you want to go somewhere in Ocarina's Hyrule, you have to walk there on your own two feet or ride there with Epona as the sun rises and sets, with no fast-travel, no helpful narrative segue that conveniently deposits you exactly where you need to be. You're supposed to wonder, and to wander. You're invariably rewarded for it.

wonder and wander diunx
wonder and wander!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2011, 10:45:29 AM
There's definitely a bit too many vociferous laudations in that review.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 15, 2011, 10:49:13 AM
Oh man! Wander and wonder! :bow2

spoiler (click to show/hide)
guess they haven't play shadow of the colossus
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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 15, 2011, 10:52:32 AM
what is it about ocarina that inspires distinguished mentally-challenged from reviewers :'(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: archie4208 on June 15, 2011, 11:10:11 AM
what is it about ocarina that inspires distinguished mentally-challenged from reviewers :'(

spoiler (click to show/hide)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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It does seem to get alot of vociferous laudations from reviewers.  :teehee
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2011, 11:25:20 AM
i think "i have no idea where to go" is a valid complaint depending on the game, and as for difficulty as long as i get a "roller coaster ride wooooooooooooo" setting everyone else is welcome to select the "rip out your ball hairs one by one and chew them in frustration" setting
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2011, 11:38:36 AM
watching the giantbomb quick look for duke nukem forever was funny because they were confused (and angry) about where to go.  granted, the level design looked awful, and that was a problem in games like Perfect Dark Zero.

I'd rather have games be designed to be more open with assists for people who need them.  it seems the opposite happens.  Like, Bioshock let you turn off the arrow and shimmering objects.  At least for the shimmering objects, it didn't seem to be designed around that.  The game is really fetch questly and you end up looking for a random object in a random place randomly.

also, if you compare Mario Galaxy to Mario 64, it gives you a more straight forward path to the star.  Mario 64 occasionally just gets stupid and expects you to know that you should shoot the cannon at the edge of a polygon to expose a star.

anyway,
[youtube=560,345]bINUfbLV_0M[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 15, 2011, 12:29:35 PM
Crazy Taxi arrows are patented by Sega.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6200138.PN.&OS=PN/6200138&RS=PN/6200138
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2011, 12:29:51 PM
[youtube=560,345]bINUfbLV_0M[/youtube]


:lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 15, 2011, 01:20:47 PM
so... since when does robin williams looks like a hobo? ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 15, 2011, 01:46:12 PM
The 3DS probably would be doing well if Nintendo hadn't rushed it out with no games, and instead waited for Zelda.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 15, 2011, 05:23:15 PM
so... since when does robin williams looks like a hobo? ???


other than the brief span of his life where he was clean and sober, when has he *not* looked like a hobo of some sort?

(http://www.migliorblog.it/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/robin.jpg)

seriously is that "santa claus got nothing on me" beard
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 15, 2011, 05:33:57 PM
I am THAT person who gets hopelessly lost in Castlevania and am tempted to just give up on the game, so a superguide/metroid prime hint system is fine by me.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 15, 2011, 09:03:08 PM
Crazy Taxi arrows are patented by Sega.

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6200138.PN.&OS=PN/6200138&RS=PN/6200138

Sega, always thinking ahead :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
I am THAT person who gets hopelessly lost in Castlevania and am tempted to just give up on the game, so a superguide/metroid prime hint system is fine by me.

Superguides are okay, I don't remember if the hint system in Metroid Prime was optional or not, but if it was, then it's okay too.  If it wasn't, I'd rather throw you in front of a train.

MP's hint system was optional.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on June 15, 2011, 10:42:37 PM
[youtube=560,345]bINUfbLV_0M[/youtube]


Man, that's embarrassing
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2011, 11:13:39 PM
I am not wholly confident in that commercial's message
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 15, 2011, 11:15:52 PM
It's about alzheimer's disease
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bachikarn on June 15, 2011, 11:18:21 PM
also incest
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 15, 2011, 11:19:20 PM
Too soon to rule the 3DS out, especially since its predecessor is only at the tail end of its illustrious career. This holiday season will be the real test. If it suffers underperforming sales then, well...there's always Pokemon!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 16, 2011, 12:12:08 PM
3ds still has mario, mariokart, animal crossing coming and a hypothetical -yet likely- rhythm heaven/pokemon/tomadachi connection title to fall back on in japan.  Arguably some of the biggest properties there bar monster hunter.  I think Resident Evil Revelations will do a'ight.  Mgs3d less so.  If/when the level 5 stuff materialises it should be a boon to the system. 

As for america,  I'm not confident.  The western support is nil. Luigi's mansion 2 isn't a serious system seller.  I think only mario and mariokart are at this point.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 16, 2011, 12:26:53 PM
Its gonna be hard to hold blue ocean gimmick casuals to the hardcores 'keep investing in new hardware' tempo
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2011, 12:34:03 PM
3DS will do fine,Nintendo still has few games that will make mass market crazy and most importantly they are exclusive--buy Nintendo or fuck off

Sony on the other hand has nothing like that,they will probably be stronger out of the gate(tech,tech,tech) and then drop to the bottom.

Western handheld support will be*

-one decent game per year
-imagine babies

Nintendo should win there but not like with DS

*first year not counted
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 16, 2011, 12:40:01 PM
eeehhh i'm sorry but i don't see it like that,people already own an animal crossing game,a mario game,a mario kart game... these people have no reason to pay 300 bucks for game they already owns,if they didn't operate under these logic then the 3DS would have been a huge success and we would see nintendogs and layton on top of the chart once again

the only game that it's going to make a difference is pokemon and by the time it hits,i expect psvita of having take more ground on a simple "japanese developer will do game for it" aspect
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 16, 2011, 12:51:44 PM
you underestimate Nintendo(fans),i think

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: archie4208 on June 16, 2011, 01:47:08 PM
DK '94 hit the 3DS VC?  Glad to see the system finally get a good game.  :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 16, 2011, 09:31:20 PM
eeehhh i'm sorry but i don't see it like that,people already own an animal crossing game,a mario game,a mario kart game... these people have no reason to pay 300 bucks for game they already owns,if they didn't operate under these logic then the 3DS would have been a huge success and we would see Nintendo Dogs and layton on top of the chart once again

the only game that it's going to make a difference is pokemon and by the time it hits,i expect psvita of having take more ground on a simple "japanese developer will do game for it" aspect


People don't buy sequels to popular franchises?  Hell, Animal Crossing City folk was pretty much a more refined version of Wild World and still sold 3 million+.  Same with mariokart, same with New Super Mario Bros, etc. (Which are at what, 15 million+ apiece?)

I also forgot Smash which is a guaranteed million seller in every territory while also moving mucho consoles.  But I don't think we'll see Smash 3ds/WiiU for 3 years :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 16, 2011, 11:16:01 PM
DK '94 hit the 3DS VC?  Glad to see the system finally get a good game.  :bow2

It's just the B/W GB version though.  Why the fuck didn't they make it the Super Gameboy-enhanced version? 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 16, 2011, 11:18:41 PM
so they can sell you that version a few months from now
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 16, 2011, 11:56:06 PM
I am hearing that the eShop has plenty of bandwidth and everyone is able to easily purchase what they want from it

I also heard that I am dating 1996-era Sandra Bullock
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2011, 01:19:16 AM
two hours?  really?  i knew the battery life was pretty short, but that's just ridiculous
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 17, 2011, 01:34:08 AM
Two hours is perfect for gaming sessions, why would anyone want to play longer than that. Thank goodness for Nintendo thinking about the children of today by limiting how much time they can spend on gaming
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2011, 01:38:12 AM
they should probably think about doubling the battery size on the next iteration and calling it the 3ds heavy
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2011, 02:51:20 AM
I think two hours is about Game Gear time.

Of course Game Gear was cutting edge tech for the time, not like 3DS.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on June 17, 2011, 03:46:15 AM
ugh, just got two hours off a full charge

this is the worst handheld since the game gear

Why dont you have the nyko battery pack addon?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2011, 04:00:19 AM
Since when do you need to buy 3rd party products to make a product functional?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on June 17, 2011, 04:11:33 AM
Good point but still.  Its $20, why wouldnt you?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2011, 04:20:42 AM

(http://automotivebattery.org/wp-content/uploads/car-battery-prices.jpg)

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 17, 2011, 06:17:11 AM
eeehhh i'm sorry but i don't see it like that,people already own an animal crossing game,a mario game,a mario kart game... these people have no reason to pay 300 bucks for game they already owns,if they didn't operate under these logic then the 3DS would have been a huge success and we would see Nintendo Dogs and layton on top of the chart once again

the only game that it's going to make a difference is pokemon and by the time it hits,i expect psvita of having take more ground on a simple "japanese developer will do game for it" aspect


People don't buy sequels to popular franchises?  Hell, Animal Crossing City folk was pretty much a more refined version of Wild World and still sold 3 million+.  Same with mariokart, same with New Super Mario Bros, etc. (Which are at what, 15 million+ apiece?)

I also forgot Smash which is a guaranteed million seller in every territory while also moving mucho consoles.  But I don't think we'll see Smash 3ds/WiiU for 3 years :(

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As of March 31, 2009, all versions of Nintendo Dogs combined have sold 22.27 million copies worldwide,[4] making it the third best-selling standalone game of all time.

if the third best-selling standalone game of all time bombs because it's the same shit i really can't see this not happening to animal crossing and mario kart

for the record i'm not saying that "sequel to popular game franchise don't sell" just that they can't attract all the 22 million that bought mario kart ds by giving them mario kart again because 20 million of these people probably would go "ehy i already own mario kart on a device i own,why do i need to spend 300 bucks to play it again?"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2011, 09:21:32 AM
copy-paste

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So turns out 3DS tie ratio is 1.23. Not too hot, considering there is nothing big until the holiday season. Wonder if we will see the hardware sales drop below PSP during the year.

May software sales per platform, for those who are interested:
360 >>>>>> Wii = PS3 > DS >>>>>> PSP >> 3DS
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2011, 09:51:15 AM
Everybody expects 3DS to top PSP this week/month cause of 13 year old game   :-\
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2011, 09:56:17 AM
In Japan?

I think it will,last week difference was about 2k.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2011, 09:59:21 AM
For PSP?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 17, 2011, 10:05:39 AM
Yeah

Quote
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year |        YTD |   Last YTD |         LTD |           
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|  PSP  |    26.750 |    30.217 |    22.380 |  1.040.345 |  1.030.090 |  17.690.557 |     
|  3DS  |    24.649 |    27.357 |         0 |  1.089.548 |          0 |   1.089.548 |     

Zelda is selling well,according to gaf
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 17, 2011, 10:15:26 AM
it's $129 with an excellent back catalog of games, as opposed to $250 with jack and shit for games (right now)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
Also PSP games look the same as 3DS games mostly, it has better battery life too and a bigger screen.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 17, 2011, 10:41:30 AM
Everybody expects 3DS to top PSP this week/month cause of 13 year old game   :-\

Not underestimate how starve nintards are for a game.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 17, 2011, 11:07:57 AM
Except N64 already had Mario, Pilotwings, Blast Corps, Banjo Kazooie, F-Zero X, Diddy Kong Racing, Goldeneye and Mario Kart 64 when OOT launched! (this also means that the first two years of N64 from Mario to Zelda were better then all the years of the Wii combined).

So the conditions are even better now for Nintendo to sell shitloads.

:bow Nintendo :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 17, 2011, 12:18:01 PM
copy-paste

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So turns out 3DS tie ratio is 1.23. Not too hot, considering there is nothing big until the holiday season. Wonder if we will see the hardware sales drop below PSP during the year.

May software sales per platform, for those who are interested:
360 >>>>>> Wii = PS3 > DS >>>>>> PSP >> 3DS

Well, 3DS was able to kill off the DS. Great job
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 17, 2011, 02:24:28 PM
so they can sell you that version a few months from now

This issue would be related to the emulator software, which they have never charged for.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 17, 2011, 02:29:33 PM
And those japanese numbers reek of pre ds era figures.  Its a pissing match with very little piss accounted for at this point.  I cry for japan.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 17, 2011, 02:44:35 PM
Except N64 already had Mario, Pilotwings, Blast Corps, Banjo Kazooie, F-Zero X, Diddy Kong Racing, Goldeneye and Mario Kart 64 when OOT launched! (this also means that the first two years of N64 from Mario to Zelda were better then all the years of the Wii combined).

That's the crazy thing. I was watching the GiantBomb quick look for Ocarina of Time on the 3DS and I can literally transport myself back to playing Mario 64 and Zelda and just being completely blown away because they were both so revolutionary and felt cutting edge for their time. While I think both of those series will always be solid because Nintendo is solid, I kinda feel the same away I feel about Disney. That the revolutionary days are gone and its more about good iterations from here until eternity. Which I can't really fault them too much on because that is what everybody does. It does make you appreciate the past a lot more though.

It's weird because on the software side nobody considers Nintendo cutting edge anymore. They are considered sort of established very good craftsmen but not revolutionary. But I can easily remember the periods when Nintendo was as cutting edge as any devs out there. They were on the forefront.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on June 17, 2011, 04:30:52 PM
Eagerly anticipating the next OoT review from Mr. Erickson. :bow

[youtube=560,345]bINUfbLV_0M[/youtube]


 :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 17, 2011, 04:36:08 PM
I honestly have no idea what that Zelda commercial is saying
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 17, 2011, 05:25:40 PM
ugh, just got two hours off a full charge

this is the worst handheld since the game gear

Why dont you have the nyko battery pack addon?

Cuz it has a nasty rubbery smell and strips the screwheads on your DS cover?

Two hours is too low though.  I usually get four or more on a charge, but I have the brightness level down and turn off the wi-fi connection when I'm not using it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on June 17, 2011, 06:11:56 PM
From Gamesradar:

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In 1998, Ocarina was groundbreaking. The size of the world, the number of areas to explore, the scope of the time-traveling story that sees Link change from child to adult and takes him from volcanoes to dungeons to haunted dungeons… it was all unprecedented for a console game. To have such a robust, engrossing experience and have it be the first 3D iteration of The Legend of Zelda was nothing less than mind-blowing. To this day, millions will parade it as the best game of all time.

Like it or not, that’s simply not the case today. Ocarina is particularly bad about dropping excessively vague hints (or no hints at all) as to what to do next. There are a handful of extremely important items (say, the Fire Arrows, Lens of Truth or even Epona) that are buried under a layer of riddles that don’t quite add up. Back in the day, we expected games to be mysterious and obtuse; today, we’re all accustomed to mechanics that lead us from one place to the next, even if it’s on an almost subconscious level. This isn’t about hand-holding or over-tutorializing, which is a whole other problem with games today – it’s about fundamental design, and Ocarina has always had this issue, especially compared to Wind Waker or Twilight Princess.

What a strange complaint.

http://www.gamesradar.com/3ds/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d/review/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d-review/a-20110616202423556029/g-2010061610502183083/p-2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 17, 2011, 06:22:03 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 17, 2011, 06:43:55 PM
to be fair i always thought the bit about getting the lens of the truth was always a bit obtuse

GO TO THE TOWN AND THEN DROP YOURSELF INSIDE THE WELL FOR NO REASON
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on June 17, 2011, 07:04:22 PM
From Gamesradar:

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In 1998, Ocarina was groundbreaking. The size of the world, the number of areas to explore, the scope of the time-traveling story that sees Link change from child to adult and takes him from volcanoes to dungeons to haunted dungeons… it was all unprecedented for a console game. To have such a robust, engrossing experience and have it be the first 3D iteration of The Legend of Zelda was nothing less than mind-blowing. To this day, millions will parade it as the best game of all time.

Like it or not, that’s simply not the case today. Ocarina is particularly bad about dropping excessively vague hints (or no hints at all) as to what to do next. There are a handful of extremely important items (say, the Fire Arrows, Lens of Truth or even Epona) that are buried under a layer of riddles that don’t quite add up. Back in the day, we expected games to be mysterious and obtuse; today, we’re all accustomed to mechanics that lead us from one place to the next, even if it’s on an almost subconscious level. This isn’t about hand-holding or over-tutorializing, which is a whole other problem with games today – it’s about fundamental design, and Ocarina has always had this issue, especially compared to Wind Waker or Twilight Princess.

What a strange complaint.

http://www.gamesradar.com/3ds/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d/review/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d-review/a-20110616202423556029/g-2010061610502183083/p-2

More proof that mainstream reviewers are distinguished mentally-challenged fellows and that no one should pay them any attention ever.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 17, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
game in 2011 not as good as it was in 1998

"best game of all time" secretly "...so far"

gamesradar spitting mad fire, offending nintards
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Barry Egan on June 17, 2011, 11:31:20 PM
Nintendo's marketing for the zelda remake is:  Robin Williams endorses this product?  Is there a whole series of these in the works?  Maybe Steve Gutenberg will come out of retirement and endorse the Wiiuuu. 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 18, 2011, 04:44:52 AM
don't fuck with the Gute.  Dude was fucking ballin' in Party Down.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: SantaC on June 18, 2011, 05:57:44 AM
Wow, gamers nowadays are true pussies.

I remember drawing around 16 32x32 maps for Might & Magic I or mapping all the Ishar islands in my notebook.

There was no internet back then, no GameFAQs, hell no printers.

Fuck you modern gaming, fuck you.

tru dat. Also there was no handholding in Zelda 1, oh how the might has fallen.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 18, 2011, 07:44:52 AM
you know every review i've seen of this remake just talk about how magicaly awesome is this game and that "IT'S A CLASSIC!" but not a single review seems to bother to explains why it's so....

and this is really what ticks me off,one can says that metal gear has too many cutscene,one can say that FF7 has a gay villain that is nothing compared to the almighty kefka but ocarina? ocarina it's perfect magical rainbow sunshines!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on June 18, 2011, 07:47:27 AM
Nintendo makes whimsical magical games with lots of heart and soul man. You don't need to know why they are good, they are just good because Nintendo.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2011, 09:18:31 AM
But I can easily remember the periods when Nintendo was as cutting edge as any devs out there. They were on the forefront.

The open world of Zelda OOT and the amount of stuff in it was unique in its day on consoles, it was a revolution. They were really pushing the enveloppe back then in so many areas it's crazy. I don't think they will ever be able to go there again as they have simply let this path go since Zelda 64, 13 years ago. There would be too much catch up.


game in 2011 not as good as it was in 1998

"best game of all time" secretly "...so far"

gamesradar spitting mad fire, offending nintards

 :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on June 18, 2011, 09:31:27 AM
Ocarina of Time rocks or rather, rocked.

I am not sure how it holds up this day, will buy a 3DS one day and see for myself.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2011, 09:48:23 AM
My feelings exactly. I doubt it could immerse me as it did in 1998, when I was completely obsessed by it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2011, 09:52:42 AM
I watched the quick look and got a boner. I have not played it in a very long time.

Any gift card bundles or sales on 3DS?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2011, 10:34:05 AM
zelda oot is still incredible.  still my favorite game and all.  it's just not the best game ever if you really want to break it down, and while twilight princess and wind waker aped a lot from it, they did things better.  if I played twilight princess when I was in primary school, my opinion would probably changed.

I'm excited to pick this up tomorrow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 18, 2011, 10:45:30 AM
personaly i think it's a good game but i don't think i'll ever stop saying that it has to be the most overrated videogame ever,the music inside dungeons is incredibly dull no matter how many times somebody links me to gerudo valley,most of the puzzles are so paint-by-the-numbers i'm not even sure i should use the word puzzle and the whole game is so banal

"GO GET THE 6 ELEMENTAL MCGUFFINS!"

the oracle games are better than this!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 18, 2011, 10:56:30 AM
They are paint by the numbers nowadays, but back then they were cool.

:bow Water Temple :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 18, 2011, 11:02:38 AM
I think I am gonna find my old N64 Zelda and play through that instead on the original bitchin awesome hardware
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 18, 2011, 12:07:01 PM
you should have seen the rage on this man when ign gave 9.something to jak and dexter 2 :smug
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 18, 2011, 12:51:48 PM
I never really got the whole 2D Zelda > 3D Zelda thing, I feel like in 3D Zelda realized much more of its aspirations than in 2D and there's a lot more potential in 3D for the series.

Nothing will ever beat A Link To The Past and Link's Awakening in my book.  I'd rather play those two than any other Zelda game.

I plan on buying Ocarina tomorrow though.  I never played much of it on N64 and will give it another shot.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 18, 2011, 01:54:22 PM
Someone hook me up with the club nintendo code please.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on June 18, 2011, 05:58:18 PM
personaly i think it's a good game but i don't think i'll ever stop saying that it has to be the most overrated videogame ever,the music inside dungeons is incredibly dull no matter how many times somebody links me to gerudo valley,most of the puzzles are so paint-by-the-numbers i'm not even sure i should use the word puzzle and the whole game is so banal

"GO GET THE 6 ELEMENTAL MCGUFFINS!"

the oracle games are better than this!

I loves me some OoT (it along with LttP are my favorite Zeldas), but even I'm a little surprised at its 'best game ever' status. I do think it's only fair to point out that even at the time it seemed to have flaws that would be at least somewhat significant enough to disqualify it from gaining that title.

Having said that, it being in the top 10 would be more acceptable, and it being the best 3D Zelda is more reasonable. It has a great amount of dungeons with some excellent level design, a cohesive, organic world, an acceptable amount of (useful) side quests, a great soundtrack (despite shitty N64 midi), and the least amount of useless filler in the main quest. Unless you're a story cigarillo, there's not much the other Zeldas have on OoT.


Playing now, i'm enjoying it - the 3D is actually pretty good too :O



Why do you have a 3DS?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 18, 2011, 07:05:33 PM
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WOW @ the poor people here who think OoT is overrated. If you fail to recognize OoT as a masterpiece, you have my sympathies.

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/monocle-pop-o.gif?t=1308438322)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 18, 2011, 07:16:16 PM
I don't know if it's the most overrated game ever.  It's pretty overrated, but it's also a really phenomenal game.  It's kind of like Chrono Trigger in that way.  Better to save that title for shit that was never that great to begin with, like the first Uncharted.

God, don't even get me STARTED on Chrono Trigger. I replayed it on the DS and finally made my peace with it, but yeah. It's the 8.9iest 10.0 that ever was
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 18, 2011, 07:18:27 PM
i'm curious to hear your opinion about chrono trigger tough i'm not sure you want to tell it to someone nicknamed magus :-\
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 18, 2011, 07:19:42 PM
as Oscar implied, I think it is a very very good RPG that is too often held up as the greatest RPG of all time

at least it's better than FFVI
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 18, 2011, 07:21:41 PM
Knight and Baby > Chrono Trigger
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on June 18, 2011, 07:24:20 PM
Are you gonna try OoT 3DS patel?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 18, 2011, 07:28:35 PM
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at least it's better than FFVI

many rpg are better than FFVI :smug
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 18, 2011, 08:41:27 PM
OoT is awful, I never understood the love for it
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2011, 10:42:02 PM
Target is doing buy Zelda, get 3DS game half off. What is another good 3DS game?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 18, 2011, 10:44:52 PM
Target is doing buy Zelda, get 3DS game half off. What is another good 3DS game?

Here's a list of good 3DS games:

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on June 18, 2011, 10:47:00 PM
:rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 18, 2011, 10:47:53 PM
Target is doing buy Zelda, get 3DS game half off. What is another good 3DS game?

Ghost Recon, my nicca
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2011, 10:54:14 PM
That's what I was thinking
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:16:20 PM
3d zelda > 2d zelda any day of the week

ocarina is one of the most influential games of all time. after it came out everyone started looking after it for ideas, particularly when devs were just getting used to 3d game development.

game has masterful game design, particularly in the late dungeons.

Whatever your feelings on the game doesn't take away from the impact it had on the industry and the future of game development. People concentrating on ______rated are idiots, anyways, especially with genuinely influential games like Zelda: Ocarina of Time. Even as a Mario 64 hater, I think that game sure as fuck deserves a good amount of the praise it gets, so why do people who don't like OoT much have to go on and on about how it's "overrated"?

You want a truly overrated game, try something that's mediocre and is propelled as genius incarnate like Killzone 2 or as Oscar said, Uncharted 1.

The majority of OoT detractors come off as attention starved contrarians. People don't and won't ever agree with everything, but if your sole argument is that the game is overrated and you're really only doing so due to the sheer amount of love the game has, you're a flat out tool.

And on that note, Chrono Trigger probably is another game that has similar treatment. Maybe we CT love it a bit TOO much, I don't know, but I'd say the MAJORITY of the accolades thrown at CT are well deserved.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:21:02 PM
personaly i think it's a good game but i don't think i'll ever stop saying that it has to be the most overrated videogame ever,the music inside dungeons is incredibly dull no matter how many times somebody links me to gerudo valley,most of the puzzles are so paint-by-the-numbers i'm not even sure i should use the word puzzle and the whole game is so banal

"GO GET THE 6 ELEMENTAL MCGUFFINS!"

the oracle games are better than this!

You act like other Zelda's are any different.

The only Zelda that has actually gives you a legitimate reason to do that shit is Majora's Mask.

I'm not seeing how the puzzles are paint by the numbers either. They're very Zelda-like, if anything.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:24:24 PM
I'm pretty underwhelmed with OoT 3ds. I thought they'd add more content or something. At best it looks like a slightly better looking version of the original, at worst it's the same game without much, if any, new content with double the frame rate.

For a game I've played at least 10-15 times I just can't justify getting a 3ds for it and it's not like I'm not already on wait for the 3ds lite bandwagon.

Maybe Majora's Mask 3ds would make me think differently.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:28:55 PM
someone's catching feelings

I guess you could say that, I just tire -- being a big fan and all -- of the "OoT is overrated" rhetoric any and every time the game comes up.

Who gives a shit, you aren't original. Go choke yourself on a sock puppet so I don't have to read your internet drool anymore. I think that any time I read "overrated" and "oot" in the same sentence.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2011, 11:31:17 PM
The 3D effect is good, but this is my first 3DS game. If everyone says this game's 3D effect is very good, then how are the other games? It's weird because all I see is a very convincing 3D effect. It would be shitty if it was even slightly different. I play it with the slider all the way up. MAXIMUM

Just using the 3d trailer as reference, I'd say Zelda has the best 3D effect I've seen on the system.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:34:21 PM
I know they're everywhere, but it doesn't take away from the fact they're annoying cunts and yes, Spielberg is a hack who hasn't made a good movie in maybe a decade.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 18, 2011, 11:41:55 PM
I cannot believe how shitty the library is for this console
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 18, 2011, 11:43:45 PM
wait for e3.... o wait
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 18, 2011, 11:46:48 PM
I cannot believe how shitty the library is for this console

I could believe it, as the 3DS hasn't been on the market for too long, but there should at least be some good looking games down the pipeline. The fact that NOTHING was shown during E3 is a very ominous sign
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 18, 2011, 11:52:04 PM
wait for e3.... o wait

tgs or gamescom

can't wait for the megaton announcement of geist 2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 18, 2011, 11:54:02 PM
3ds has a new shinobi game coming for it and that may just be enough to make me get one if I'm financially able when it comes out
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 18, 2011, 11:58:04 PM
I cannot believe how shitty the library is for this console

The launch was okay but there has been like... *nothing* since then except DoA.  And I don't even mean shovelware and average garbage, but NOTHING.  

Sounds like the PS2 when it was first released. Look how that turned out.  :-X
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Barry Egan on June 19, 2011, 12:03:25 AM
PS2 had tons of awesome shit in the pipline from day 1, even if the launch was crap. Sorry.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 12:03:41 AM
ps2 when it was first released in Japan or ps2 when it was first released in the US? Because when ps2 was first released in the US we had Tekken Tag coming up, SSX was out, and MGS2 pics in gaming mags made every guy in the classroom wet his pants. Then up to FFX you had Dark Cloud, ICO, Devil May Cry, Onimusha, MGS2, Klonoa 2, Ring of Red, Silent Hill 2 and that's within a year. I think comparing 3ds to ps2 is a lil' bit unfair. ps2 launch we KNEW it would have amazing games because they were already SHOWING those amazing games.

3ds, however...

Even if we're comparing launch titles, 3ds has nothing on SSX.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on June 19, 2011, 12:18:29 AM
Of course, it also sounds like the Saturn when it was first released.  Look how that turned out.

Awesome?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2011, 12:27:57 AM
Ive never played Ocarina of Time so i watched a movie and saw you have to run the fuck around like a little prancy just to get form one place or another who the fuck does that that is a waste of time. Then i saw the gay boy you play as your avatar start blowing on some gay instrument flute. Like seriously, who wants to do that. If youre going to make me play a instrument for no reason atleast make it a fucking guitar with some sick rifts or a alto sax, not some gay ass tooty blooty thing.

I then continued ont he video and I saw them do this weird ass dungeon where the big solution to the puzzle in the dungeon was carrying a box from one corridor to the other. how is that even remotely fun.  this all topped off when this gay boy turns into a man and he's still wearing this same ass green and tights suit as a 20 year old. he is pretty much the nintendo fan reincarnate except he lives in a actual fantasy world and not the one in nintenbots heads.

god this game looks bad.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 19, 2011, 12:33:05 AM
:bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Barry Egan on June 19, 2011, 12:34:30 AM
yea it is pretty gay
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 19, 2011, 01:13:51 AM
:bow PS2 :bow2

No game console will ever match the PS2 lineup, with how things are now its pretty much impossible.

No home console alone, I'm in agreement actually; however, I think this generation will be perceived as superior to that of the PS2 when all is said and done.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 19, 2011, 08:00:38 AM
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You act like other Zelda's are any different.

nah they aren't that much different,but ocarina got it the worst,which is weird because it's the game that everybody fawns the most

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I'm not seeing how the puzzles are paint by the numbers either.

oh look! a switch far-away! i wonder if i'll ever get some sort of ranged weapon to hi... oh here it is,it's a slingshot,oh what's that? the boss has a huge glowing spot that casualy can only be reached with the new item i just found?

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/zelda2.jpg)

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Who gives a shit, you aren't original. Go choke yourself on a sock puppet so I don't have to read your internet drool anymore. I think that any time I read "overrated" and "oot" in the same sentence.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxY8lpYAUM[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2011, 09:09:48 AM
I got the 3DS, Zelda, and Ghost Recon for $240 at Target. Had some gift cards that were like $65 or so.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 09:38:59 AM

oh look! a switch far-away! i wonder if i'll ever get some sort of ranged weapon to hi... oh here it is,it's a slingshot,oh what's that? the boss has a huge glowing spot that casualy can only be reached with the new item i just found?

(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/zelda2.jpg)


Once again, this is not an original argument, nor is this a by the numbers formula. That is the Zelda formula to a tee. Play the original, LttP and Link's Awakening and then come back. You're hitting switches with boomerangs, flying across rooms with hookshots in LttP.

Ocarina is merely a 3d evolution of this. A full realization of the full potential laid upon by the core principles of the 2d games.

Seems to me your issue is this: you don't like Zelda. If you're complaining about Ocarina having puzzles like this, you certainly CAN'T like Zelda. Either that or you're being a hypocrite.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 19, 2011, 09:54:12 AM
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you don't like Zelda

no,this is not true,i enjoy it but i enjoy it to a basic level,i certainly don't enjoy it to a level where i would happily plunk 300$ just to play it again with barely any cosmetic change or enjoy it to a level where i would write a sonet about it or tell people that's it's a timeless classic,these menial task are kinda fun in a "so that goes there" way but they don't certainly blow me over the water

that's why i say it's good but overrated

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 10:10:59 AM
You're not preaching to the choir. Even I'm not buying a 3ds for OoT.

But that doesn't change the fact that you don't like Zelda, if you're going to complain about hitting switches to solve puzzles. It's like complaining about Mario because it includes jumping.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 10:46:14 AM
I would agree if you if earlier pics were to be an example but some of the character models just look like they're not even trying. Even the Temple of Time looks worse.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2011, 11:08:34 AM
The 3d effect is completely lost on me. I always see two images.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 19, 2011, 11:42:31 AM
Picked up Zelda.  The local Best Buy is one of, if not the biggest/busiest stores in Atlanta.  They recently moved to a new storespace...the 3DS section was microscopic and they didn't have the game on shelves yet.  I found someone else looking for it who said that a clerk was checking the back.  He came out with a whopping TWO copies available, lol.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 19, 2011, 11:44:39 AM
Are you gonna try OoT 3DS patel?

yeah, I'm really looking forward to playing it

he said in 1998
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 19, 2011, 12:02:40 PM
Fuck where's my old Zelda cartridge! My plane leaves in 4 hours and it's buried somewhere in the basement. Fuuuuu there goes my retro gaming plans
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on June 19, 2011, 12:10:29 PM
You're not preaching to the choir. Even I'm not buying a 3ds for OoT.


Uh, wouldn't this mean he is, in fact, preaching to the choir?

read a book himu

a book

not a manga

not a manga
or an anime
but a book, Himu
a fucking book, Himu

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 12:10:52 PM
whoops

that's what i get for not drinking my morning tea :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 12:13:37 PM
leave my manga out of this
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 19, 2011, 01:09:00 PM
I picked it up earlier.  Registered it and got the soundtrack.  Dumped it in my closet where it sits until I can play it next week :'(

I don't know why I was expecting a gold cart.  Would have been a neat touch.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: SantaC on June 19, 2011, 01:39:30 PM
i get a 3DS when there is a new castlevania coming out for it. I really thought it would be revealed for E3 though.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 19, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
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But that doesn't change the fact that you don't like Zelda, if you're going to complain about hitting switches to solve puzzles.

well let's do like umineko and turn the board
does anybody here thinks "oh my god this is so awesome!" everytime he breaks a cracked wall? hit a switch with the boomerang? use the grappling hook to go whenever they have to go?

was the best bit of the skyward sword demonstration the one where links hit a switch with his newfangled bug item?

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2011, 02:14:27 PM
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But that doesn't change the fact that you don't like Zelda, if you're going to complain about hitting switches to solve puzzles.

does anybody here thinks "oh my god this is so awesome!" everytime he breaks a cracked wall? hit a switch with the boomerang? use the grappling hook to go whenever they have to go?


i do, better that than a cutscene or story dialogue moment
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 19, 2011, 02:26:27 PM
sorry for my posts last night I was drunk

that said I went to get the game today but it wasn't at wal mart, they got no copies :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Corporal on June 19, 2011, 05:22:10 PM
A friend told me that they have not fixed this.
(http://i.imgur.com/ohUDo.jpg)
Please, someone tell me he's a dirty poopyheaded liar.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 05:57:59 PM
Haha you must be joking.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 19, 2011, 06:38:25 PM
(http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z2/teasels/zelda-1.png?t=1308523047)

(http://cdn.brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/comics/2011-05-12-333-Advice.jpg)

truly the greatest game of all time :smug
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 19, 2011, 06:51:32 PM
sorry for my posts last night I was drunk

that said I went to get the game today but it wasn't at wal mart, they got no copies :lol

Loser
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on June 19, 2011, 07:01:08 PM
If you guys were really true Nintendo fans you would read everything that Owl had to say and relish it, then choose consciously to read it again so you can fully absorb the fine prose Miyamoto crafted all those years ago
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 19, 2011, 10:14:04 PM

So glad I didn't buy this piece of shit x 100

I got the 3DS, Zelda, and Ghost Recon for $240 at Target. Had some gift cards that were like $65 or so.

roflmao
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2011, 10:33:20 PM
I had $225 worth of reward points on my card, plus gift cards.

Was very difficult to pick a second game. Hardware is shoddy. Tech doesnt work well. Dirty poors stay away, it is not worth it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 19, 2011, 10:41:31 PM
I had $225 worth of reward points on my card, plus gift cards.

Was very difficult to pick a second game. Hardware is shoddy. Tech doesnt work well. Dirty poors stay away, it is not worth it.

You're a troll and you're full of shit.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2011, 10:45:15 PM
Do i need to take a picture of the game?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 19, 2011, 10:47:55 PM
Do i need to take a picture of the game?

You can take 30 pictures for all I care. Doesn't change my accusation.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2011, 10:49:29 PM
the hardware *is* shoddy -- the hinges loosen and break easily, and the battery life is embarrassed by the original psp -- and the 3d tech seems to only REALLY work for an ascetic set of true nintendo faithful, while the rest of us feel our retinae detach and our temples implode. it is distressing the lengths that obese ninpoors will go in order to justify squandering their snack cake and sugar water budget on this turdware
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 19, 2011, 10:53:00 PM
even ds games last 5 hours on the machine. pathetic.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2011, 10:56:20 PM
I cant believe the main menu interface they came up with. This is 2011. The shop is even worse.

2gb non-micro card
Hinge is loose
3 different colors and texures in the body
Big panel gaps
Harsh edges all over
No capacitivr screen
Horrible resolution with jumbo black border and 3d logo in your face at all times
Not even a fucking rectangle, why is the top half a mushroom cap

Worst of all the screen has a 1-degree field of view in 3d mode. And doesnt work if there is even a little glare. People buy handhelds to play on trains and shit man. This tech is not ready for prime time.

I do love oot though
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2011, 10:59:23 PM
top screen scratches, too, when it is closed, partly due to the shitty hinges but ALSO due to crappy mold design and craftsmanship
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2011, 11:00:44 PM
Fuck i forgot about that, it was part of the reason i was waiting for a revision. Does nintendo swap those via warranty? Should i Get a screen protector or does that ruin 3d also?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 19, 2011, 11:01:15 PM
the hardware *is* shoddy -- the hinges loosen and break easily, and the battery life is embarrassed by the original psp -- and the 3d tech seems to only REALLY work for an ascetic set of true nintendo faithful, while the rest of us feel our retinae detach and our temples implode. it is distressing the lengths that obese ninpoors will go in order to justify squandering their snack cake and sugar water budget on this turdware


Hey, Sunshine, the PSP is $100 less than the 3DS. Nintendo fans would be flocking for the cheaper handheld if they truly let their wallets dictate their gaming taste, now wouldn't they?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 19, 2011, 11:01:48 PM
no, it has a sony badge on it. that's like putting tits in front of fistful -- you couldn't PAY them to touch it
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 19, 2011, 11:02:05 PM
They let iwata dictate their gaming tastes from a corporate boardroom. He prints money!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 19, 2011, 11:58:57 PM
no, it has a sony badge on it. that's like putting tits in front of fistful -- you couldn't PAY them to touch it

 :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 20, 2011, 12:17:54 AM
I see the game has a score of 94 on Metacritic. I literally felt nauseous after seeing it
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 20, 2011, 12:55:56 AM
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Hey, Sunshine, the PSP is $100 less than the 3DS. Nintendo fans would be flocking for the cheaper handheld if they truly let their wallets dictate their gaming taste, now wouldn't they?

semi-serious: Given you aren't interested in replaying old games and aren't interested in outdated tech i assume you are skipping the 3ds? at least for now right?



I'll get the 3DS eventually, once its library expands. But I've expressed my strong interest in the PS Vita on the Sony E3 thread, and will probably end up getting that before the 3DS. The lack of video output on the Vita initially turned me off to that likelihood, but it showcased enough features and potential to convince me to disregard that shortcoming for now.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: T-Short on June 20, 2011, 02:49:21 AM
I also don't really notice things like colour and texture blending because I'm not gay.

:lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 20, 2011, 04:30:15 AM
UK
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1. Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
2. The Legend of Zelda: OCarina of Time 3D
3. Duke Nukem Forever (2K Games)
4. LA Noire (Rockstar)
5. Brink (Bethesda)

Quote
Week one sales of the new Zelda nearly beat the lifetime sales of 3DS top seller Pilotwings Resort. In total around one in five 3DS owners bought the new adventure game over the weekend.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 20, 2011, 04:48:22 AM
No one will care about it in a week.

Also ALMOST beating garbage like Pilotwings (lifetime) isn't exactly amazing. Low expectation motherfuckers.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 20, 2011, 06:09:24 AM
I just mean it will drop from the chart, it will remain the best selling 3DS game for eons yes :)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 20, 2011, 07:41:41 AM
Yeah I figured you meant the all formats chart.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on June 20, 2011, 02:27:24 PM
quality games causing you nausea would actually explain a lot about your gaming habits

:lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 20, 2011, 06:27:20 PM
I'm nominating Oscar for icon if given the chance.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on June 20, 2011, 09:53:24 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-06-20-zumba-fitness-denies-zelda-uk-number-one

:rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 21, 2011, 01:24:15 AM
http://kotaku.com/5813712/nintendo-believes-the-3ds-two-big-problems-have-been-fixed

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"When we launched, we had a fantastic day one and a very strong week one," he said during our recent interview. "We talked to consumers. Consumers were highly satisfied with the device. They loved the built-in applications. They loved the game experiences. We had high levels of awareness. We had high levels of intent-to-purchase.

"But when we started talking to consumers who were aware or interested, but hadn't yet bought, they told us two things: first, I need a big Nintendo franchise for our purchase. The second thing was I need the network to be up. I need the connected experiences to be there."

:rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 21, 2011, 01:27:41 AM
"Hey, guys, we got Zelda and the e-store up and running! So go out and buy a 3DS, okay? Please, just buy one, that's all we need right now, just one. Oh God, we're losing so much money..."
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 21, 2011, 12:08:13 PM
Overprice and overrated N64 ports and a shitty e-store? you can check those boxes!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 12:49:43 PM

the game is okay. but holy shit the controls are so bad. just got into hyrule city and the controls are even worse

nintenbots always said the worst thing about the PSP was that no one wants to play long console games on a handheld then what the fuck is their excuse for this shitty game. nothing is short. cutscenes are 5 minutes long of unskippable babble by some elves and distinguished mentally-challenged fellows. you have to spend 10 minutes running in a forest made of 5 polygons while skeletons that look like elves (aka pallete swaps) attack you. its just not fun nor portable.

yet it gets 5/5 stars  ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 21, 2011, 01:00:01 PM
There's nothing wrong with the controls. 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on June 21, 2011, 01:04:36 PM
the hardware *is* shoddy -- the hinges loosen and break easily, and the battery life is embarrassed by the original psp -- and the 3d tech seems to only REALLY work for an ascetic set of true nintendo faithful, while the rest of us feel our retinae detach and our temples implode. it is distressing the lengths that obese ninpoors will go in order to justify squandering their snack cake and sugar water budget on this turdware


rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 01:04:47 PM
Yes there is. It suffers from PSP-ism. Note I havent played this game before so i'm not coming in with nostalgia coated eyes. I see the game for what it really is. Clunky and messy. The controls are horrible. In teh first dungeon when you crawl out that vent the camer has Resident Evil 1 like camera lock and you can't swing the camera, so I literally ran off the ledge because I couldnt see where Zelda was going and had to re run the dungeon.

It's also a clusterfuck to try to change who youre targeting if theres more than one enemy on the screen. Lock on targetting is also janky as fuck as it seems sometimes it'll work and other times not.

Why can't Zelda hold his shield up and attack at the same time? Or why can't you hold the shield button down and then ahve him attack? you have to let go of the shield button then hit the sword button. That's ridiculous and bad game design.

this is not even getting into the fact that everyone in Zeldas village is a homosexual and how theyre all afraid to enter the vagina analague that is the Great Dookie Tree Dungeon.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 21, 2011, 01:36:16 PM
Yeah, I barely played it on N64 myself.  Doesn't matter- it controls just fine.  That's not one of this game's problems.

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Why can't Zelda hold his shield up and attack at the same time?

Why would Zelda hold up Link's shield and attack?   ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 21, 2011, 01:52:45 PM
I think he's trolling.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 01:56:02 PM
I'm not trolling. I just went from paying Alice to this, and Alice felt and controled way better.

Also I meant it that you can't hold R and Hit A to attack, you have to drop R then hit A. it's messy.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 01:56:19 PM
And if i'm falling off random cliffs because the camera will not budge from it's bullshit presentation view then it's broken. sorry.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 01:59:55 PM
(http://c0013824.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_6b9b54b)

i aint trollin
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 21, 2011, 02:06:46 PM
that is not the hand of a black man
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 21, 2011, 02:08:03 PM
its the hand of a fatty though
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 02:08:22 PM
not my pic  :-[
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 21, 2011, 02:09:20 PM
hahahaha
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 02:23:56 PM
another bullshit:

saving in hyrule castle teleported me back to links gay house  ??? ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: tiesto on June 21, 2011, 02:25:19 PM
The only game announced that I have any interest on 3DS is the tri-Ace game... every time I play it in the store, I have to turn off the 3D effect else my retinas want to explode. What a shitty, overpriced piece of hardware, and I was a big fan of the original DS.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 21, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
Don't forget the awesome engineering where the lower screen scratches the top screen
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 02:48:50 PM
this game is god damn terrible. seriously. stealth action sequences that force you to run way the fuck back if you get caught? why cant I just knock out the guards with my sword?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 02:52:27 PM
dude fuck this game

seriously fuck it

i saved

and accidentally hit quit instead of continue


now I have to run back to that shit castle and do that stealth scene which is TERRIBLE

all fucking over again

PLUS


i have to wait for it to be nighttime


who the fuck greenlit this shit


this isn't "the best game ever"


this is

"the worst biggest piece of gay propoganda ever"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on June 21, 2011, 02:56:54 PM
Yeah, LttP's way better. People were just hella gay for anything in 3-D at the time. I remember when everyone had a massive boner over the first PS2 GTA and my thoughts were 'I already played this to death a gen ago, fegs.' 8)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 21, 2011, 03:25:12 PM
The only game announced that I have any interest on 3DS is the tri-Ace game... every time I play it in the store, I have to turn off the 3D effect else my retinas want to explode. What a shitty, overpriced piece of hardware, and I was a big fan of the original DS.

I can't play Zelda with 3D on (it hurts my eyes most of the time), and don't use it with DOA Dimensions and Street Fighter (it affects the framerate), but it does work pretty well in Ridge Racer and Samurai Warriors. 

Really, if it wasn't for the fighters and the two Resident Evil games, there's no way I'd have a 3DS.

Yeah, LttP's way better. People were just hella gay for anything in 3-D at the time. I remember when everyone had a massive boner over the first PS2 GTA and my thoughts were 'I already played this to death a gen ago, fegs.' 8)

Yeah, I agree, but Methodis is just LOLOLOL on this one. 

LMAO at people who bought 3DS systems to play a 13 year-old game though.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 03:32:15 PM
I'm sending this shitpie back to Amazon.

(http://i.imgur.com/ezdoP.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 21, 2011, 03:32:37 PM
rofl. thats pretty good.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 21, 2011, 03:47:10 PM
:bow Methodis :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 03:56:24 PM
That would be good indeed if you weren't a fake-ass character.

OoT is 3rd best Zelda game ever after TP and WW.


:wtf

Quote
You must be mentally disabled if you do not like it.

 :-[
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 04:03:18 PM
I have never played Ocarina before, let alone a real Zelda game so I figured, "cool i'll jump in, this game is really good apparently." Long rant incoming.

Cut to a few hours after getting it and this is quite possibly the most overrated messiest game i've ever played.

Not only is the save system something totally opposite of what the definition of a portable game is (where are all those people who scolded the PSP over having console ports and un-portable friendly games now?), having it reboot you to Zeldas home after you shut off the game, the controls and camera are those that will lead a person to suicide.

Take for example the example in the Desu Tree or whatever it's called. At some points you have to crawl through a small hole, and on the opposite side you come out. Problem is the game uses the camera angle that games like Resident Evil 1 used for this, so all of a sudden your controls are inverted, and the camera doesn't move. This caused me to fall off a ledge several times forcing me to have to re-run the dungeon to get back up to where I was. Then the fairy that friends Zelda told me to run up a vine when I was running what would later appear to be the right way, only to get attacked my spiders and fall off once again. Why waste my fucking time like that? I was running the right way.

Mix this in with the targeting being piss poor and it's just confusing how this gets so many scores that are 5/5 in this day and age. I can see this being great back in the day when the most you had to compare it to was probably Jumping Flash, but now a days, especially coming fresh into it without the stink of nostalgia it's just a mess.

Couple this in with the fact that you're given no clue where to go so you're constantly running around a 5 polygonal landscape for your objective and frustrations add up.

I ended up putting some more hours but never saw it getting much more accessible or interesting. I was told to run into Hyrule Castle. I guess I had to meet this princess or something. Anyways what follows is one of the worst pieces of gameplay I have ever played in my life. You are expected to play Metal Gear Solid stealth sections with a ecstatic camera and no visual clue as to how the guards detect you. Follow this in with if you're caught you're booted back to a point where you have to run around the mountain, climb up a unnecessary vine and temp fate again. Eventually I found out the way to do this is you have to wait for some arbitrary night cycle to pass, which - by the way- only passes if you're in a certain section of the game world () and with no real set fidelity. Then you're expected to like creep by some guards who can magically see you if you are 1 pixel over but then all of a sudden can't if you manage to gamble with the pixels right.

Why can't Zelda just go bash their heads in? He just killed a spider monster, you're telling me guards are off limits? Why do I have to play a version of Metal Gear Solid designed by a Flash Game Programmer?

Anyways I manage to get INTO the actual castle where now i'm forced to play hide and seek with bad camera controls. And guess what - if you're caught you're booted outside the castle so you have to run in, watch a unnecessary animation, hope it's day time out, and then try again. Doesn't matter how far you're in, if you're caught you're booted back out. Somehow along the way I decided to Save the game expecting that if I fuck up I could resume back at the castle. Nope. I save, quit for a few minutes to go to the bathroom, come back and when I hit continue i'm back at Zeldas house.

I manage to do all this bullshit and meet the princess where there's another unskippable cutscene about some fantasy archetype stuff that is just hiding the gay subtext hidden behind this game. I'm introduced to the queen of Butch City Inka or something and told to go there because it was her old hometown and there's a stone there I need or something. I go there and look around for the King and can't find him. I boot up a FAQ on GameFAQs and read up seeing what i'm missing. Apparently I had to go to some Farm and then back to the village to get some items even though the game made no mention of me having to do this.

So, I get disgusted by this tripe, pack it up and am sending it out to Amazon tomorrow for a refund.


I just don't get the love this game gets. I have played and enjoyed a few hours of Twilight Princess, and played a bit of Links Awakening DX, but this was just too much. It was clunky with bad design decisions and the one opportunity they had to make it friendly they fucked up. (Seriously, why does it bring you back to his house when you Save?) It just feels like a relic of it's time down to it seems like they wanted to sell you a strategy guide for it, that has no right to be sold as a full priced product, especially a marquee one. If you enjoy the ever loving shit out of this game more power to you, but I am wondering if there are people who are like me that are new to this game and just think it's a mess.



thats the full rant i posted on SA
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 04:04:19 PM
omg i'm going to find this
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 04:06:45 PM
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3399549&pagenumber=233#lastpost
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 04:07:09 PM
ahahaha how is this possible? You can't play a game that's made for pre-teens? I played this game when I was 13 :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 04:08:32 PM
I've played games way harder than OOT, it's more of a lack of caring. The only fun I had in the game was killing the spider boss, not bullshit story exposition.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 04:11:52 PM
:rofl methodis' rap sheet :rofl

I'm amazed how long it took  you to get banned.

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To have this many probation and it taking that long to get banned? :bow SA mods :bow2

You truly are the worst poster ever.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 04:12:32 PM
w/e i only got banned for calling someone a pirate and was right about it
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 04:14:47 PM
"Methodis you are a terrible bloody poster and I plan on informing your wallet about it so long as you keep it up."

"Holy balls will you get over Rock Band or whatever already? Your whining is horrendously obnoxious. User loses posting privileges for 1 day."

"Still, after all these months, has so much hate for Harmonix. Just let it go. Let it go. You can do it. Just.. never post about it again and get over it. User loses posting privileges for 1 week."

"God dammit dude, shut up and stop posting 20 times a page. User loses posting privileges for 1 week."

"Since you can't stop getting angry about plastic guitar game, how about this: You are not allowed to post in Rock Band threads ever again. If you do, you will be banned. I am not kidding. User loses posting privileges for 3 days."

"You don't have to care anymore. I'm releasing you from your burden. I will bring the message. I will tell the people. I will carve it into the face of the mountain and smash the lanterns in the square and scream, "Behold, a message, a prophecy, a truth!"

They will turn. They will listen.

"Rock Band is dead! Rock Band is dead, and we have killed it, you and I! Do you not hear the noise of the gravediggers who are burying the series? Do you smell nothing as yet of the corporate decomposition? Games, too, decompose! Rock Band is dead! Rock Band remains dead! And we have killed it!" User loses posting privileges for 3 days."

:rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2011, 04:15:27 PM
(http://c0013824.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/x2_6b9b54b)

i aint trollin

Vitaligo is a bitch
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 04:15:43 PM
man w/e atleast it gives me character
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 06:23:23 PM
I already realized how lame my character is earlier this year when I cut back on posting. :fbm


I can't believe I once roleplayed a racist troll on this message board when I first joined. :fbm
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 06:31:44 PM
if your account is a joke character why do you post like that on SA
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 06:37:40 PM
if your account is a joke character why do you post like that on SA

i have been banned from every forum ive ever posted on except like two - beastieboys.com and wdwmagic.com
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on June 21, 2011, 07:32:31 PM
....
thats the full rant i posted on SA

:lol nice
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on June 21, 2011, 07:59:31 PM
I'm sending this shitpie back to Amazon.

(http://i.imgur.com/ezdoP.jpg)
:lol :lol :lol you are such an asshole.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on June 21, 2011, 08:50:24 PM
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Take for example the example in the Desu Tree
:lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 09:23:16 PM
Those complaints aren't bad game design. It's just you being impatient. Malon even says to meet her at the castle at night time.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 09:23:36 PM
:bow dcharlie
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 09:33:45 PM
aka I want everything handed to me as a convenience. I really shouldn't be expected to talk to a unique npc in order to find out how to continue the story in an action adventure game. I have to re-do a section of the game that takes all but 1-2 minutes to do? Fuck this, I'm selling.

more than likely by people who liked Okami.

The scourge of gaming.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 21, 2011, 09:34:43 PM
or even wiser like me and not bought a 3ds to start with

:bow methodis :bow2

:bow dcharlie :bow2

:bow oscar :bow2

:bow me :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 09:35:28 PM
aka I want everything handed to me as a convenience. I really shouldn't be expected to talk to a unique npc in order to find out how to continue the story in an action adventure game. I have to re-do a section of the game that takes all but 1-2 minutes to do? Fuck this, I'm selling.

more than likely by people who liked Okami.

The scourge of gaming.
Okami was great sorry this game is such garbage.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 09:36:08 PM
No wonder. You were starting at the bottom of the barrel (Okami) to start with.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 21, 2011, 09:42:50 PM
I thought i was doing good with skulltulas but i still cant get the wallet and im abot to enter the cavern.

Also they should have made saves take you to the current town, especially if standby time is so horrible
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 09:43:02 PM
:bow Okami :bow
:bow Okamiden :bow
:bow Alice: Madness Returns :bow
:piss Ocarina of Time Wasted Playing This Tripe :piss
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 09:43:55 PM
Also they should have made saves take you to the current town, especially if standby time is so horrible

I'm surprised they didn't change that.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 09:49:21 PM
no he's pissing on himuros post because I knew he was going to post some follow up shit
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 10:12:23 PM
ive never played ocarina before and everyone said it was the best game ever and I really haven o clue where theyre coming from.  ??? ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 10:15:58 PM
where'd you stop playing at? the game is called best game ever, almost stupidly albeit understandably so, due to the dungeon and quest design.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 10:18:20 PM
where you have to turn in the letter to get into the second dungeon. I didn't know you had to do that so I got frustrated because I culdn't find the king and quit.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 21, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
Game rox
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 21, 2011, 10:44:20 PM
where you have to turn in the letter to get into the second dungeon. I didn't know you had to do that so I got frustrated because I culdn't find the king and quit.

What you need is an in-game interactive tutorial or a comprehensive walkthrough manual because it's painfully apparent the combination of reprehensible taste and years of prolonged exposure to idiot-proof games has ill-prepared you for challenges of this magnitude.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 10:48:27 PM
or you could just assume that Zelda would be smart enough to know he has a letter in his pocket when the man asks for the letter and not force me to navigate a bunch of shitty menus to do it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Nintendosbooger on June 21, 2011, 10:54:28 PM
.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on June 21, 2011, 11:07:05 PM
Stop fucking calling Link Zelda. :rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mrbob on June 21, 2011, 11:16:46 PM
Sounds like I should just pick up Zelda DX instead.

:bow Game Boy Color :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Lerkaboi on June 21, 2011, 11:27:02 PM
Stop fucking calling Link Zelda. :rofl
youre telling me the elf dude in my avatar isnt named zelda?

my whole life ive been living a lie
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 11:28:37 PM
Fuck you Himuro I just got another probation for making fun of you.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=161870


you should send louis a private message and say we're brothers
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: originalz on June 21, 2011, 11:29:58 PM
In all honesty all of these people complaining about shit not being straightforward enough are the reason why newer Zelda (and Nintendo, I guess) games have playthroughs and insane tutorials that everyone seems to bitch about.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 11:30:07 PM
a week for making fun of himuro and saints row  :yuck
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 11:32:03 PM
man what a terrible day I bought a shitty game, i accidentally posted a white picture of myself and now i'm probated for a week for making fun of Saints Row
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 11:33:45 PM
In all honesty all of these people complaining about shit not being straightforward enough are the reason why newer Zelda (and Nintendo, I guess) games have playthroughs and insane tutorials that everyone seems to bitch about.

like i said.

the scourge of gaming.

they have ruined it for everyone.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Lerkaboi on June 21, 2011, 11:34:26 PM
man what a terrible day I bought a shitty game, i accidentally posted a white picture of myself and now i'm probated for a week for making fun of Saints Row
you just called ocarina of time a shitty game

why
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 11:35:17 PM
Fuck you Himuro I just got another probation for making fun of you.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=161870


you should send louis a private message and say we're brothers

:rofl
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 11:37:52 PM
:piss somethingawful might be lax but atleast demi doesn't ban you for a week for making fun of saints row :bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2011, 11:39:04 PM
I think it's more that you brought ME into it. SA doesn't like people who shit on others unless you're being constructive about it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 21, 2011, 11:39:40 PM
Yeah but you did insult me a line earlier :piss
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mrbob on June 22, 2011, 01:44:57 AM
Fuck you Himuro I just got another probation for making fun of you.

http://forums.somethingawful.com/banlist.php?userid=161870


you should send louis a private message and say we're brothers

Hahaha, damn.  Look at all those probation warnings for trolling Rock Band.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 22, 2011, 01:50:52 AM
Okami wipes it's ass with OoT
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on June 22, 2011, 02:18:52 AM
The XFE and methodis be trollin something fierce up in this bitch.

I won't disagree that some of the stuff mentioned regarding Malon and Talon involved some backtracking, and stealth mini games always suck, but both of those were extremely minor, one off instances that shouldn't have much impact on the overall game (at least until you arrive at the water temple. you're mileage may vary, tho I actually wound up enjoying it more over the years).
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 22, 2011, 02:30:59 AM
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could be a bethesda game where fuck all happens for 100 hours

i've yet to play these mythical bethesda games where nothing happens, infact with Oblivion and Fallout 3 i had to ignore stuff.

I know Bebpo had the problem with Oblivion but i was constantly side tracked because i kept adventuring off the main story path.

:bow Bethesda :bow2

:bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on June 22, 2011, 02:33:24 AM
Was playing Shivering Ilses this week to 1250 Oblivion, it's great gaming

:bow Bethesda :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 22, 2011, 02:56:27 AM
Im suprised so many of you bought this. SMH.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 22, 2011, 03:22:59 AM
How about you play some other game. Or watch some footie.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Lerkaboi on June 22, 2011, 03:35:14 AM
if you dont have it already get the ghost recon game
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on June 22, 2011, 03:51:26 AM
I guess dcharlie needs some game to console himself for buying the 3ds?  You buying tales of the Abyss DC charlie?  I might actually buy a 3ds for it, i never played it on the ps2 so...
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 22, 2011, 03:56:37 AM
How is the 3DS on online gaming?

I'm playing this on my phone now... Just 5 euro yo.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mamkauXJZI[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 22, 2011, 09:19:12 AM
Do you actually have to get caught to see Malon? I talked to her and got the egg and I don't remember getting caught. Maybe I got stopped right on the gate or something at the start, as I definitely didn't in the latter "harder" part.

I have had a few annoyances crop up though. After you are through with the Castle they tell you to see the Gorons. Thankfully I listened when they said to talk to Saria because if I had gone all the way up to the Goron king without speaking to her I would have had steam coming out of my ears.

Finding her was tough though, I had to read all the signs to figure out where her house was and then she wasn't there. I kind of remembered her having something to do with the Lost Woods and I remembered how that puzzle worked so it wasn't too bad. But a new player would have no idea where your "special place" was as that is all the clues you get from any NPC. Then you have to run all the fuck back to Death Mountain again. Then when you leave that dungeon you have to climb the mountain, the owl takes you back to Kakariko, so you have to go back up to the Goron area and then back to the Castle to get all your goodies.

Then I hit the Zora area. I take the chicken almost all the way up. I toss it up onto a ledge. I climb up. I pick it up, and link falls off the ledge as part of his pickup animation, dropping the bird in the water meaning I have to go all the way back for the chicken. Also falling in the water yourself makes you go all the way back to the start, but in this part it is shallow.

So I get the chicken and use it to get to a ladder, only to realize that there is a SECOND use for it later on that leads to a heart piece. fuck!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 22, 2011, 09:21:54 AM
Oh and all those backtracking bombable areas gave me 50-100 rupees, but I was maxed at 99 because I had not gone to Kakariko yet to claim the reward for my fetch quest. The rupees are just wasted, at least in TP you would put them back in the chest. They couldn't implement that in this game?

When I got to the Zora area I had zero bombs to make it though, but thankfully there was a big clump of bushes to cut. Got nothing but mroe shitty rupees. Had to leave the area and come back once or twice to finally get a fucking bomb drop.


I do like the game a lot though. I wish Nintendo had smoothed over some of this stuff.



FUCK, I just went ahead and tried the chicken thing. In order to traverse the area you have to throw it up onto ledges a couple of times and then climb up to reclaim it. But it fucking ran away from me, entered the water, and got whisked away! It didn't even get carried away in the current (it was ankle deep), it fucking just zapped straight up into the air. They couldn't make it so the chicken stays on land unless you fuck up and throw it directly in water? Damn it man.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 22, 2011, 10:14:59 AM
Yeah just reading Admirals posts makes me not want to ever pick up this tripe again. I was considering it when I learned you have to show the letter to get through the imaginary door that serves no purpose, but if i'm going to have to backtrack over 5 Polygon Hyrule over and over again pixel searching then no thanks.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 22, 2011, 11:08:16 AM
Can I have the nintendo code
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 22, 2011, 11:14:35 AM
MC
Quote
3DS – 40,649
PSP – 31,741
PS3 – 16,081
Wii – 6,678
DSi LL – 5,464
DSi – 5,322
Xbox 360 – 2,875
PS2 – 1,346
DS Lite – 109
PSP go – 55

 :elephant


Quote
1. [PSP] The Little Battlers Experience (Level-5) {11/06/16} - 166,187 / NEW
2. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo) {11/06/16} - 164,110 / NEW
3. [PS3] Yakuza of the End (SEGA) {11/06/09} - 53,775 / 352,492
4. [360] Steins;Gate: Hiyoku Renri no Darling # (5pb.) {2011.06.16} - 31,666 / NEW
5. [360] Steins;Gate: Double Pack (5pb.) {2011.06.16} - 11,041 / NEW

6. [3DS] Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D (Capcom) {2011.06.02} - 9,062 / 83,405
7. [NDS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 2 - Professional (Square Enix) {2011.03.31} - 7,997 / 538,020
8. [NDS] Battle & Get! Pokemon Typing DS (Pokemon Co.) {2011.04.21} - 6,609 / 137,421
9. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) {10/07/08} - 6,556 / 1,917,752
10. [3DS] One Piece: Unlimited Cruise SP (Bandai Namco) {2011.05.26} - 6,549 / 112,174

11. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (Nintendo) {10/11/11} - 6,476 / 353,082
12. [NDS] Pokemon: Black/White (Pokemon Company) {10/09/18} - 6,434 / 5,204,356
13. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2011 (Konami) {2011.04.14} - 4,232 / 184,299
14. [PSP] Patapon 3 (SCE) {2011.04.28} - 4,136 / 120,934
15. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} - 3,939 / 3,244,896
16. [360] Steins; Gate - Platnium Hits {11/06/16} - 3,914/NEW
17. [PS2] The Art of War (Daisy Daisy) {11/06/16} - 3,872 / 3,872
18. [WII] Wii Fit Plus (Nintendo) {09/10/01} - 3,844 / 2,328,388
19. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd (Capcom) {10/12/01} - 3,758 / 4,490,749
20. [PSP] Akiba's Trip (Acquire) {11/05/19} - 3,601 / 93,078
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 22, 2011, 11:15:52 AM
:bow Nintendo :bow2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 22, 2011, 12:06:08 PM
Can I have the nintendo code

in exchange for not being a leper
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on June 22, 2011, 12:38:51 PM
This system is taking forever to get region free.  They better have this region free stuff going by the time jrpgs start coming out for it at the end of the year, early next year. 

One day I'll probably pick up Zelda just to turn on my 3ds for the first time in a year.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 22, 2011, 02:18:35 PM
In all honesty all of these people complaining about shit not being straightforward enough are the reason why newer Zelda (and Nintendo, I guess) games have playthroughs and insane tutorials that everyone seems to bitch about.

like i said.

the scourge of gaming.

they have ruined it for everyone.

Yeah games no longer have distinguished mentally-challenged and archaic designs, gaming is ruined forever :'(

:piss Zeldatards :piss2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on June 22, 2011, 04:52:33 PM
This system is taking forever to get region free.  They better have this region free stuff going by the time jrpgs start coming out for it at the end of the year, early next year. 

One day I'll probably pick up Zelda just to turn on my 3ds for the first time in a year.
Seriously, where is my 3DSTT?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 22, 2011, 05:25:45 PM
i got up to where you got the bracelt and apparently because I didnt chose the right 10 x 10 bit of pixels to play the ocarina it wouldn't accept it.


what shit game design :piss
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Herr Mafflard on June 22, 2011, 06:47:37 PM
[youtube=560,345]8KPlMrmZnEI[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 22, 2011, 07:22:17 PM
this game is such shit. I need to hit some targets with my slingshot to advance, but I ran out of bullets so my choices are to run back to the forest or go back to Hyrule and then re run the dungeon. No thanks shitty game.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 22, 2011, 07:25:55 PM
this game is such shit. I need to hit some targets with my slingshot to advance, but I ran out of bullets so my choices are to run back to the forest or go back to Hyrule and then re run the dungeon. No thanks shitty game.

So, what happened? Did Amazon not accept your complaint as valid?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 22, 2011, 07:55:27 PM
i decided to try it while I wait for the box I ordered to come int he mail
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 22, 2011, 07:59:53 PM
Grass often has slingshot pellets in it. If the dungeon you're in has grass or something to cut, you can use that.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on June 22, 2011, 09:50:51 PM
I went ahead and got oot vc last night, because spending 40 bucks on practically the same thing isn't wise.  Kinda not digging the controls and how close the camera is to Link.  I'd say outside of some popup the graphics haven't aged as terribly as I thought.  Mario 64 is still pretty good though.  I forgot just how responsive the controls are and the levels have great personality.  <3 Bombomb battlefield.  I want a 3dsware mario 64 now.

edit:  Fuck all this text in OoT too.  I seriously do not give a fuck about this trite good vs evil and elemental macguffins fluff.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 23, 2011, 07:33:23 AM
Lol DS jumped to 40k only and Zelda did 160k?

Wait for Starfox.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: T-Short on June 23, 2011, 08:09:50 AM
Lol DS jumped to 40k only and Zelda did 160k?

Wait for Starfox.

What were you expecting?  You really should read up on past numbers if you want to join the sales analysis game, Mr. Lager.

He would expect the HW sales to be as high, of course! Why would anyone have bought a 3DS before ZERUDA?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 23, 2011, 09:30:11 AM
PSP is doing 30k each week with no big release. This is THE release for 3DS this year right?

Although I do remember Zeruda not being that big in Japan mr.Oscar.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on June 23, 2011, 10:30:53 AM
or even wiser like me and not bought a 3ds to start with

:bow methodis :bow2

:bow dcharlie :bow2

:bow oscar :bow2

:bow me :bow2

Can I be in your club? I'm abstaining as well.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: T-Short on June 23, 2011, 12:02:19 PM
I'm not sure if this is THE release for the year or not, to be honest.  It depends on what actually makes it out.  Super Mario has a very good shot at the title if it makes it out, but then again, Japan isn't real keen on 3D Mario.

Super Mario looked pretty damn terrible, at least in the state that was in the E3 presentation and videos
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 23, 2011, 12:26:47 PM
or even wiser like me and not bought a 3ds to start with

:bow methodis :bow2

:bow dcharlie :bow2

:bow oscar :bow2

:bow chronovore :bow2

:bow me :bow2

Can I be in your club? I'm abstaining as well.

done
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 23, 2011, 01:31:39 PM
I'm didn't buy one either!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on June 23, 2011, 01:41:10 PM
Sorry, the list is for those who have a choice in buying one
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 23, 2011, 03:37:23 PM
I'm not sure if this is THE release for the year or not, to be honest.  It depends on what actually makes it out.  Super Mario has a very good shot at the title if it makes it out, but then again, Japan isn't real keen on 3D Mario.

Super Mario looked pretty damn terrible, at least in the state that was in the E3 presentation and videos

completely agreed. looks awful.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 23, 2011, 04:53:59 PM
One thing I don't get is why people lambasted the PSP for years for bad camera controls and having only one stick yet Zelda comes out and not one peep about it.


Anyone who says the game wouldn't control better with a dedicated camera stick is lieing.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 23, 2011, 07:49:53 PM
It would, but it controls exactly like the N64 version.  Thus, it controls well considering.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on June 23, 2011, 08:47:54 PM
Yeah if you compare it to a 15 year old game, not if you're new to it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 23, 2011, 09:30:05 PM
If I may make a losery nerdy observation, I don't like how Nintendo continues to map actions on buttons based on letters.  The positions of ABXY have changed, and while A and B were main actions buttons on the N64, the A button is in an uncomfortable position on the 3DS.  Mapped by position, the former B/A actions should be on Y/B.  You don't see PS3 or 360 games use the B/Circle button as main actions; it's always X and A (or Square and X) because it's more natural and comfortable. 

It's even more confusing when Nintendo games on the SNES changed controls to have Mario's run on Y and Jump on B because it made sense.  Or how Mario Kart had accelerate on B, while the DS game had it on A.  Or how Star Fox SNES had shoot on Y, while the 3DS Star Fox 64 has it on A.  ah fuck this shit I miss color coded buttons from my Tapwave Zodiac.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on June 23, 2011, 09:45:54 PM
You don't see PS3 or 360 games use the B/Circle button as main actions; it's always X and A (or Square and X) because it's more natural and comfortable. 

It's normal in Japan to have circle as the default action button afaik
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on June 23, 2011, 10:47:12 PM
That said, I don't find any of the face buttons all that difficult to reach on any controller.  Must be my manly training with six-button pads.

Neither, though I'm one of those weirdos that prefers the convex sticks, flat buttons, good dpad and unergonomic traditional styling of the playstation pads
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on June 23, 2011, 11:49:50 PM
I have a jap PS3 and it defaulted the OK button to O in Uncharted 2, which I found interesting.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 24, 2011, 12:35:23 AM
Yeah if you compare it to a 15 year old game, not if you fucking suck at videogames

fixed
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 24, 2011, 12:41:20 AM
Circle as default is the only right way to play.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Diunx on June 24, 2011, 08:46:46 AM
Sure...if you are a weebo.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on June 24, 2011, 10:38:29 AM
SNES, NES, Game Boy, Genesis used that button as confirm. When I got my psx and FF7, I felt right at home with circle as confirm. Then other games switched it to x because Sony of America are assholes. This created utter confusion. So now every time I play a game on a non-sony/ms console, I have to have confirm as whatever fucking button is on the side, namely on the gba/ds. It's so disorienting. Keep the same damn button layout among systems!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on June 24, 2011, 11:17:05 AM
Sure...if you are a weebo.

 ???

(http://i.imgur.com/tR7S3.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on June 24, 2011, 12:47:46 PM
in my era we didn't have any newfangled X or O button! all we needed was one single button!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on June 24, 2011, 01:44:02 PM
Yup, Sony swapping X and O as confirm/cancel buttons on the PS1 was just stupid, and because they continue to do this today, it can create problems.

I have a Japanese PS3.  When I play Mortal Kombat and do online player matches, it lists O as confirm and X as decline matches, but O will cancel and X will confirm...only on this screen.  Otherwise it's switched around to the opposite.   :dizzy
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 24, 2011, 02:33:34 PM
I wasn't talking about confirm/cancel.  I meant the main controls that don't change between regions.  The bottom button (X, A or B depending on console) is almost always accelerate, jump, etc.  The weird thing about modern Nintendo games is how they map actions based on letters rather than position.  Like, the N64 controller had B as the left button and A as the bottom button, so it should map as Y and B on the 3DS, with left and down C buttons as X and A.  It's just oddly inconsistency with older Nintendo games and other game consoles.

It's a non-issue, only slightly annoying because using the button closest to the edge of any portable system can be awkward to press (in the way that I hold it).  Just a weird observation.  I have dumber observations, like how Sony's perfect diamond button layout (and Nintendo, Sega and Microsoft copying it) ruined Nintendo's shorter and wider four button layout.  Or how the first and only Nintendo controller with six buttons had no Street Fighter game to take advantage of it.  Getting autistic up in here.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 25, 2011, 11:42:30 PM
OoT is still great.  3DS version is pretty great.  The only two parts that really feel dated (granted, last I played oot was on the wii virtual console) are the general slowness of movement and actions and the camera.

3D effect is actually amazing, like, I want to play the entire game in 3D but the hardware sucks so I can't.  Motion control stuff added is neat, but not really thought out.  It breaks the 3D and isn't really intuitive.  Touch screen makes managing stuff easier.  Um, it looks a lot nicer? it's kind of inconsistent with how 'ok' it looks.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 25, 2011, 11:50:09 PM
Dungeons look great, main character models are great, and interiors are nice, but the rest looks just about the same.  Up'd textures are alright I guess.

I fucking love the gyro aiming.  Of course you won't see me playing that way in public (in fact you won't see me playing a 3DS in public, period), but it works perfectly.  I don't think it messes with the 3D that much unless you don't move your head with the system.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 26, 2011, 04:05:35 AM
Man I REALLY wanted to play some Zelda today

So I went to Gamestop and bought a copy of Wind Waker for Gamecube

Then the guy behind the counter was like "Hey if you like Zelda, I just got this in today" and pulls out a mint copy of Gamecube Master Quest for like twenty bucks (which I've been trying to find)

Time to plop down in front of the SDTV with my Wavebird and PARTY LIKE IT'S 1998 AND I'M IN COLLEGE AND NOT GETTING LAID AND PLAYING Z-Z-Z-Z-ZELDA
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on June 26, 2011, 05:11:11 AM
If I really want to play Zelda until Skyward Sword is out, I'll play Darksiders.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 26, 2011, 05:40:15 PM
I have two that still work perfectly  ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on June 26, 2011, 06:44:33 PM
I have 4. I just used them the other night for some Smash. All the batteries still worked. The Wii remote I needed to turn the fucking console on had dead batteries even though they were in that controller for 1/10th the time.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on June 26, 2011, 09:50:15 PM
Yeah, what's wrong with Wavebirds?  I still have one although it's all gross and cruddy by this point.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 26, 2011, 10:12:54 PM
I've got two Wavebirds that still work.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on June 27, 2011, 07:18:53 AM
Quote
UPDATE: The UK version of Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D, which has just landed on Eurogamer's desk, confirms the Tiny Cartridge report. The manual reads: "saved data on this software cannot be reset."

ORIGINAL STORY: It is impossible to delete save data from upcoming Nintendo 3DS game Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D, according to a new report.

The US version's manual reads: "saved data on this software cannot be reset", according to pictures published by Tiny Cartridge.

The website speculates this may be a deliberate ploy on behalf of Capcom to combat second hand sales of the game.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Lerkaboi on June 27, 2011, 07:53:11 AM
what the fuck fuck you capcom you fucking fuckers
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on June 27, 2011, 08:08:26 AM
Can you overright it though?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on June 29, 2011, 12:21:38 AM
the golden skulltulas are still hilariously bullshit collectibles.  to 50 is ok.  then nothing until 100 and the ultimate reward is "here is unlimited money that's practically useless at this point."  at least in twilight princess you get armor that uses rupees as health...progress!

game is still great, really nice port, etc etc.  weirdest addition is random hideously low res skyward sword art hidden.  I saw two; one was a picture and the other was a wall texture hidden behind a box (???)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on June 29, 2011, 04:35:20 AM
You got shit taste Borys jeebus, FF13 and Wind Waker  :duh

Still love you though!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: naff on June 29, 2011, 05:48:37 AM
Wind Waker is awesome. Wtf
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on June 29, 2011, 08:52:21 AM
Quote
UPDATE: The UK version of Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D, which has just landed on Eurogamer's desk, confirms the Tiny Cartridge report. The manual reads: "saved data on this software cannot be reset."

ORIGINAL STORY: It is impossible to delete save data from upcoming Nintendo 3DS game Resident Evil: The Mercenaries 3D, according to a new report.

The US version's manual reads: "saved data on this software cannot be reset", according to pictures published by Tiny Cartridge.

The website speculates this may be a deliberate ploy on behalf of Capcom to combat second hand sales of the game.

That's devious.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on July 01, 2011, 08:14:59 AM
DOA is fun online.  Can totally see ditching Zerudaa though.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 18, 2011, 10:17:05 AM
Not that it's needed but more evidence for "not"

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2011-07-14-nights-at-the-roundtable-interview

Quote
Q: Paul, you've just picked up a potentially huge licence at Zoe Mode for Zumba Fitness 2. You're very much in that boxed product, work for hire role - is that where you see the studio's future?

Paul Mottram: Well we've always been, apart from Chime - our first self-published game, which was released I think three days before PSN went down - we've always been work for hire. Where we see the problem is that we have to convince publishers to fund us to make the games - so the problem we're seeing at the minute is too many platforms.

It used to be that ten years ago, it was PS2. So you'd just do PS2 and then maybe some others. But now we're finding that everyone is not knowing what platform is going to succeed - we did our first 3DS title - we got Crush onto that, but we had to delay the release of that because of the success of the platform.

You know it's not doing well when even Sega is delaying games
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 18, 2011, 11:24:38 AM
I do think its a smart decision, but if it becomes common the trend will only reinforce low hardware sales.  I guess the optimal time to launch would be after mario andor pokemon.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: MCD on July 18, 2011, 09:46:39 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437748

MML3 CANCELLED
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 18, 2011, 10:43:05 PM
there was another story today about how Sega delayed Crush 3DS due to poor 3DS hardware sales

third parties are fierce
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2011, 10:44:24 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437748

MML3 CANCELLED

That was the last current MM game in production. WHERE AM I GOING TO GET MY MEGA MAN, NOW?!?!?!?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 18, 2011, 10:45:14 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437748

MML3 CANCELLED

Yeah i just read that.  Very sad, they could have atleast moved it to the psp.  :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Vizzys on July 18, 2011, 10:50:38 PM
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=437748

MML3 CANCELLED

reason to buy 3DS now: 0
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2011, 10:56:31 PM
WHERE.

AM.

I.

GOING.

TO.

GET.

MY.

MEGA.

MAN.

NOW?!?!??!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Vizzys on July 18, 2011, 10:57:47 PM
WHAT AM I FIGHTING FOOOOOOOOOOR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LISmPmdUhYA
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2011, 11:05:28 PM
there's no point in life. if there's a life without mega man, i don't want it. what am i living for?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on July 18, 2011, 11:19:55 PM
It's not like Mega Man Legends was Mega Man anyway.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 18, 2011, 11:25:51 PM
But we now we don't have any mega man prospects being made (or at least announced). there hasn't been a non-classic MM since what, MMZX, which was kinda on the average scale of things? It's just no lookin' good, man.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 19, 2011, 12:21:31 AM
Mega Man has become just as creepy as Sonic lately.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Beezy on July 19, 2011, 01:10:23 AM
Is an X/Zero style Megaman game for XBLA too much to ask for?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mr. Gundam on July 19, 2011, 03:24:22 AM
Mega Man has become just as creepy as Sonic lately.

Nah.  Don't make me post fanart.

Talking about some of the biggest fanboys, not the output of weird porn.  ;)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on July 19, 2011, 03:25:26 AM
Goddamn, 3DS am Bomba total. Virtua Boy 2.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 19, 2011, 04:48:27 AM
Handhelds are dead  :japancry
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 19, 2011, 05:31:46 AM
Nintendo :fbm
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 19, 2011, 06:22:43 AM
wait for DOA zelda megaman Luigi's mansion
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 19, 2011, 07:04:49 AM
But we now we don't have any mega man prospects being made (or at least announced). there hasn't been a non-classic MM since what, MMZX, which was kinda on the average scale of things? It's just no lookin' good, man.

There are dozens of Mega Man games for you to play that I doubt most have bothered to play yet.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on July 19, 2011, 08:40:21 AM
even the crappy battle network sequel on the ds?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on July 19, 2011, 09:23:52 AM
So... I'm gonna get Dead Rising 3 right.
Title: Mega Man Legends 3DS canceled, sell your nintendo stock, it's all over
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 19, 2011, 10:58:31 AM
http://www.capcom-unity.com/devroom/blog/2011/07/18/a_message_from_capcom


Quote
Monday, July 18, 2011, 8:01 PM [General]
Posted By:    GregaMan

We'd like to thank you for your ongoing loyal support of Mega Man Legends 3. Today, however, we must regrettably announce the discontinuation of this project.

From the outset the MML3 Project was intended to give gamers across the world insight and input into the development process. Part of this process includes an assessment of whether the title will go into full production, and is based on a number of criteria with input from different sectors of the company.

Unfortunately it was not felt that the Mega Man Legends 3 Project met the required criteria, and it is with regret that we must announce that the Mega Man Legends 3 Project has been cancelled, meaning that Capcom will not be releasing the Prototype or the full game. Additionally, updates of the Mega Man Legends Developer Room will cease as of today, though the North American Developer Room and its forums will remain open indefinitely.

We can only express our deepest apologies to all of you who have lent us your unending support, including participation in the Mega Man Legends 3 Developer Room. On behalf of the entire Legends team, please accept our sincere apology for failing to meet the expectations of the fans.

We thank you all so much for your extended support of this title and this community, and we hope that you will continue to support the Mega Man franchise as well as other Capcom games.

If you have any questions, please see the FAQ below.

====================

Q: Are there plans to restart the Mega Man Legends 3 Project in the future?

A: Currently there are none.



Q: I want to maintain contact with the people I met through the Devroom.

A: The Dev Room will remain open in a limited capacity, so you can PM those people now and in the future.

 

Q: Is there a chance the ideas recruited in the Devroom will be used in future games?

A: No, I am afraid not.

 

Q: Will it be okay to upload the ideas we contributed to the Devroom elsewhere?

A: Yes, you may reuse your ideas elsewhere, including those ideas that were selected as winners in Devroom events.

 

Q: Will the people whose ideas were supposed to go in the game receive something else instead?

A:Yes, those whose ideas were to be implemented in the game will receive a commemorative gift, which will be shipped at a later date.

 

Q.Can you please give me more information on why the MML3 project was cancelled so close to the launch of the Prototype?

A. The project was cancelled for the reasons outlined in the statement.

 

Q.Will the Prototype Version still be distributed via the Nintendo eShop?

A.No it will not.

 

Q.Is the cancellation of MML3 related to the departure of Inafune-san?

A. The cancellation of the MML3 project is in no way related to Inafune-san leaving the company.

 

Q. This is the second Mega Man game cancelled this year, what does this mean for the future of the Mega Man Franchise?

A. Mega Man is still an important franchise within Capcom’s portfolio and we will continue to pursue opportunities to create new titles in the series.

 

Q. The Dev Room was a place where fans were supposed to be deeply involved in the creation of this product, why were they not involved in the decision to cancel this product?

A. We thank all those who were involved in the Developer Room, but the decision to continue or cancel the MML3 ultimately had to be made by Capcom.

 

Q. What will happen to the ideas and input participants have given to the Dev Room?

A. Content will remain viewable on the Devroom, but will not be utilized for any future projects.

 

Q. Will there be any future projects that involve fan participation in this manner? Or was this a one time experiment?

A. We will certainly continue to welcome suggestions and comments from Capcom’s community on current and future titles although right now there are no projects with plans to replicate the same level of interaction. 

 





I'm honestly confused as to why this was so hyped...the first two sucked.   
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 19, 2011, 11:03:20 AM
I guess it's not threadworthy. 

No, I agree its not  :lol

so, sega game canceled, MML3 canceled...sucks the 3DS lost 50% of its library.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on July 19, 2011, 11:14:57 AM
i guess he's talking about crush? that got delayed not canceled

and it's not like the 3ds would lose much from a psp port of a game nobody except internet nerd cared about

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 19, 2011, 11:17:24 AM
oh yeah, crush was delayed. 

oh well
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Purple Filth on July 19, 2011, 12:13:57 PM
Not suprised at MML3 being cancelled.


And the 3DS "fall from grace" has been spectacular so far  :lol  but you can never count out Nintendo yet.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 19, 2011, 12:27:21 PM
I still maintain that if Nintendo drops the price and starts releasing some actual games [no, N64 ports and rehashes don't count] they'll see a surge in sales that could easily be maintained. Unfortunately, they've shown a staunch refusal to do either.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2011, 12:30:32 PM
If Capcom puts Monster Hunter at Vita on launch...it's over
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
:(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 19, 2011, 12:49:44 PM
here's hoping Shinobi comes out on vita.

i just can't justify buying a 3ds until a 3ds lite
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 19, 2011, 02:18:03 PM
Shinobi 3DS was also delayed from September to November 15th

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 19, 2011, 02:54:06 PM
I think you guys are enjoying a state of disrepair that you have manufactured in your minds for the most part.

Almost every system has a dodgy first year.  I think the ps2 and wii and gba were the only systems that came out performing strongly in the marketplace if not having a wide dearth of software.  I do think they need to adjust prices and at least seriously try to shamelessly copy certain attributes of the ios app store.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Third on July 19, 2011, 03:05:20 PM
People underestimate the smartphone business. Handheld gaming has changed. You can play handheld games on so many portable high-end machines nowadays.

PSV is different because it actually offers value with its great cutting edge portable technology. The 3DS is pretty lame on this regard.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 19, 2011, 03:10:11 PM
People underestimate the smartphone business. Handheld gaming has changed. You can play handheld games on so many portable high-end machines nowadays.

PSV is different because it actually offers value with its great cutting edge portable technology. The 3DS is pretty lame on this regard.

You're delusional if you think the vita isn't susceptible to the same problems the 3ds is going through.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 19, 2011, 03:21:45 PM
Problem isn't so much what's out now, but how little has there is for the near future.  Nintendo has done nothing to say the 3DS will still be going in a years time.  The only new announcement at E3 was Luigi's Mansion 2.

The few other Nintendo titles were at the previous E3, with the exception of Mario.  It looks like: Finished what was already underway, then let the 3DS sink and they move efforts to the Wii U.  Why would third parties invest in the system when Nintendo doesn't seem to.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Third on July 19, 2011, 03:22:40 PM
Sure. But the DS became successfull because of its casual games and the use of its touchscreen.  Modern casuals all have super smartphones and play quick simple games on their multitouch machines.

PSP never really rode the casual train.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Purple Filth on July 19, 2011, 03:26:11 PM
Sure. But the DS became successfull because of its casual games.  Modern casuals all have super smartphones and play quick simple games on their multitouch machines.

PSP never really rode the casual train.

they tried to but that failed really well  *cough* Marcus *cough*
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 19, 2011, 03:29:05 PM
Problem isn't so much what's out now, but how little has there is for the near future.  Nintendo has done nothing to say the 3DS will still be going in a years time.  The only new announcement at E3 was Luigi's Mansion 2.

The few other Nintendo titles were at the previous E3, with the exception of Mario.  It looks like: Finished what was already underway, then let the 3DS sink and they move efforts to the Wii U.  Why would third parties invest in the system when Nintendo doesn't seem to.

People seem to forget the length of time between announcement and release has shortened for Nintendo.  Skyward Sword is the longest they've gone after announcement since.... Brawl?
Sure. But the DS became successfull because of its casual games and the use of its touchscreen.  Modern casuals all have super smartphones and play quick simple games on their multitouch machines.

PSP never really rode the casual train.

It suffered for it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 19, 2011, 03:37:17 PM
um, all those 3DS games (Mario Kart, StarFox, Paper Mario, Kid Icarus, etc) were announced over a year ago.  by the time most come out in fall, it will be about a year and a half.

this e3 we got Luigi's Mansion 2 coming in 2012
 
again, why would third parties invest in this system?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on July 19, 2011, 03:46:03 PM
um, all those 3DS games (Mario Kart, StarFox, Paper Mario, Kid Icarus, etc) were announced over a year ago.  by the time most come out in fall, it will be about a year and a half.

this e3 we got Luigi's Mansion 2 coming in 2012
 
again, why would third parties invest in this system?

japanese developer don't have any other place to put their wacky jappy game?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 19, 2011, 05:23:41 PM
Instead of slowly trickling their releases, Nintendo should just release fucking everything at once. 

Reggie: "Hey motherfuckers, it's launch day so everyone listen the fuck up-- we got mario, we got zelda, we got smash bros, we got pokemon, we got f-zero, we got 3D metroid, we got 2D metroid, we got donkey kong, we got kirby, we got pikmin, we got yoshi, we got warioware, we got excitebikes, excitetrucks, excitebots, excitekittens...we even got Earthbound Trilogy 3D so shut the fuck up, oh and we actually made 2 Zelda games.  That's right, 2 full Zelda games, one cel shaded, one realistic.  Give 3rd parties about a year and those will be the next batch.  All of them.  All of the 3rd parties and Sony too."
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 19, 2011, 06:03:43 PM
Thing is with mobiles you can buy a new game every day play with it until it bores you and you still spend the same amount of money as you would buying 1 3DS game a month.

Third is right when he says the Vita has the cutting edge hardcore thing going on, but even then it will be hard for it. 3DS seems very useless in this market though.

Look I just got this for 70 cents, will keep me playing for weeks. All I need casually on the loo or bus. Same value software on the 3DS would cost me 40$ (anyone remember that Yoshi DS game?) Not to mention I'd have to carry it around with me.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xPUdFaraoQ[/youtube]

Next up...for another euro maybe?

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeWilPSmFXE[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 19, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Instead of slowly trickling their releases, Nintendo should just release fucking everything at once. 

Reggie: "Hey motherfuckers, it's launch day so everyone listen the fuck up-- we got mario, we got zelda, we got smash bros, we got pokemon, we got f-zero, we got 3D metroid, we got 2D metroid, we got donkey kong, we got kirby, we got pikmin, we got yoshi, we got warioware, we got excitebikes, excitetrucks, excitebots, excitekittens...we even got Earthbound Trilogy 3D so shut the fuck up, oh and we actually made 2 Zelda games.  That's right, 2 full Zelda games, one cel shaded, one realistic.  Give 3rd parties about a year and those will be the next batch.  All of them.  All of the 3rd parties and Sony too."

:lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on July 19, 2011, 09:39:58 PM
I still maintain that if Nintendo drops the price and starts releasing some actual games [no, N64 ports and rehashes don't count] they'll see a surge in sales that could easily be maintained. Unfortunately, they've shown a staunch refusal to do either.

i'd bet anything the fanboy reaction from the E3 unveiling added $50 to the launch price
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 19, 2011, 09:48:47 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 19, 2011, 10:33:27 PM
I still maintain that if Nintendo drops the price and starts releasing some actual games [no, N64 ports and rehashes don't count] they'll see a surge in sales that could easily be maintained. Unfortunately, they've shown a staunch refusal to do either.

i'd bet anything the fanboy reaction from the E3 unveiling added $50 to the launch price

Agreed.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 19, 2011, 10:47:28 PM
Why would they release anything but ports and re-hashes when the only people who own them right now are tragic n-things who will buy the same game 7-8 times? There's no need.

Of course this strategy has a lifespan, which I sometimes wonder if Nintendo realises
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Purple Filth on July 19, 2011, 11:45:16 PM
I think you guys are enjoying a state of disrepair that you have manufactured in your minds for the most part.

Almost every system has a dodgy first year.  I think the ps2 and wii and gba were the only systems that came out performing strongly in the marketplace if not having a wide dearth of software.  I do think they need to adjust prices and at least seriously try to shamelessly copy certain attributes of the ios app store.

I think the doom and gloom is a touch heavy (to be expected around these parts), but I also think to say there's nothing wrong or unusual here is sticking your head in the sand.  For the first month or two, it was easy to write things off as the usual birth pangs.  Until E3, it was easy to say the software situation was going to get better.  But here and now, the sales are still in the toilet, there's no indication at all when or if they're going to get better, the hardware is getting discounted even in Japan, E3 did absolutely nothing for new titles that could help the 3DS break out of its sales malaise, and the overall software picture is somehow worse now than it was a couple months ago.

I'm not saying the system is done or anything, and I like to wait a year before passing any major sales judgements, but right now, it's looking a lot like the PS3, acting a lot like the PS3, and the people denying/defending are sounding an awful lot like the PS3tards.


Yea they have a " <insert game> will save the 3DS" list now  :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 20, 2011, 12:14:28 AM
fwiw, my PS3 was a blu-ray player and PS2 game upscaler in its first year.  I played Resistance and, uh, Heavenly Sword.

I've probably like my 3DS more at this point because it has Zelda OoT with better graphics.  All I've really used it for is Pilotwings, Zelda, and like a minute of that free Excitebike.

edit: oh shit I had calling all cars too for the ps3! and I remember buying Spider-Man 3 for it for the unlockable Green Goblin character, but it ran so poorly I went back to the store and exchanged it for the 360 version. 

actually checking a list, Virtua Fighter 5 was the first game I really liked on the PS3.  Even imported a Virtua Stick High Grade for it.

ok, nevermind.  PS3 had a better first year than the 3DS so far.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 20, 2011, 12:23:56 AM
3DS has Netflix now
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on July 20, 2011, 09:12:22 AM
fwiw, my PS3 was a blu-ray player and PS2 game upscaler in its first year.  I played Resistance and, uh, Heavenly Sword.

I've probably like my 3DS more at this point because it has Zelda OoT with better graphics.  All I've really used it for is Pilotwings, Zelda, and like a minute of that free Excitebike.

edit: oh shit I had calling all cars too for the ps3! and I remember buying Spider-Man 3 for it for the unlockable Green Goblin character, but it ran so poorly I went back to the store and exchanged it for the 360 version. 

actually checking a list, Virtua Fighter 5 was the first game I really liked on the PS3.  Even imported a Virtua Stick High Grade for it.

ok, nevermind.  PS3 had a better first year than the 3DS so far.

I don't remember the PS3 having a particularly-exciting first year.  And its launch software pretty much sucked.  Most system launches kind of blow; I agree with giving the console a year or so to see how things really turn out.

In the 3DS' case, I'm content with what's out (I play the shit out of SSF4, DOA, and Mercs), but I can easily see myself dropping this system once the Vita is out.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on July 20, 2011, 11:21:44 AM
again, the catch is theres no sign of anything in the pipeline for 3DS. Sure, the first year of a console will generally blow, but you know the sweet games are coming. With 3DS theres... nothing. Jack shit was shown at E3 which is a VERY bad sign.

Basically this thing was rushed out the door and it shows.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 20, 2011, 12:06:02 PM
I was looking at my coworker's, he's got big ol scratches down the side of the 3D screen  :-\
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 20, 2011, 12:12:27 PM
this thing looks more and more like it was never meant to exist at all :o

Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius ... Dimensius
Title: WAIT TIL SPACEWORLD
Post by: bork on July 20, 2011, 01:07:13 PM
again, the catch is theres no sign of anything in the pipeline for 3DS. Sure, the first year of a console will generally blow, but you know the sweet games are coming. With 3DS theres... nothing. Jack shit was shown at E3 which is a VERY bad sign.

Basically this thing was rushed out the door and it shows.

The lack of titles at E3 didn't surprise me...it seems like everything is coming from Japan and I expect there to be more at TGS.  There's still the next Resident Evil, Beyond The Labrynth, Mario, Mario Kart, Kid Icarus, Starfox, Tekken, an unnamed Arika-made fighter (using characters from Street Fighter EX),  Crush3d, a Kingdom Hearts title, MGS Snake Eater, Tales Of The Abyss, and more announced/dated already.

Whether or not you give a shit about any of that is a different story!  I pretty much just want RE Revelations, Crushed, and MGS right now.  Tekken would be a given, but who the hell knows when that is actually coming out, and Snake Eater on PS3/360 kind of kills a lot of the momentum that the 3DS version might have had.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on July 20, 2011, 03:13:28 PM
http://blog.games.yahoo.com/blog/842-as-sales-slip-nintendo-faces-uncertain-future

mainstream press pile-on
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 20, 2011, 03:23:14 PM
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Hey now, Sega's great. The Dreamcast was revolutionary for it's time but stupid Sony managed to dupe enough idiots into pick their piece of crap hardware instead. Video games would be much more advanced if Sony hadn't ruined it for Sega. I guess I hope Nintendo continues to do well, but they need to stop forcing so much Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon down their fans' throats.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 20, 2011, 03:40:55 PM
http://blog.games.yahoo.com/blog/842-as-sales-slip-nintendo-faces-uncertain-future

mainstream press pile-on

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

[youtube=560,345]fqcn_TPu4qQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 20, 2011, 03:44:05 PM
AssCree3ds was cancelled in 2010 before the 3ds came out.  I think this is a first.  Massive withdrawal of western support for a nintendo system BEFORE it releases.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 20, 2011, 03:45:08 PM
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Shipments mentioned during conference call:
Assassin's Creed Brotherhood 7.5m (quantity lower than ACII but with better selling price than ACII, result in higher revenue.)
Michael Jackson 4m

Other notes from the conference call:

    AC 3DS is cancelled as was said by the lead writer, decision was made back in Sep 2010. Titles like Imagine and Petz are coming.
    ACR preorders are higher than ACB in the same period last year.
    They expect Wii to be strong over the holidays, specially in casual section.
    Short movies are coming before release of GR and AC.

(http://www.abload.de/img/salesr78m.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Purple Filth on July 20, 2011, 06:46:21 PM
Stolen from GAF


http://twitter.com/CapcomEuro/status/93720826087620608

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it's a shame the fans didn't want to get more involved :-( if we saw there was an audience for MML3 people might change minds

Holy shit  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 20, 2011, 07:07:16 PM
Stone cold.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on July 20, 2011, 07:40:32 PM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHdUWSp5pks&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

almost reaching "tired old gamer" level here

http://www.gamesetwatch.com/2011/07/a_day_in_mega_man_legends_3_wi.php#more
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Phoenix Dark on July 20, 2011, 08:39:17 PM
The 3DS, like the Wii, has no games. I'm still baffled Nintendo has so many first and second party teams apparently doing nothing. The 3DS is going to start selling once the price goes down and games start arriving, but it seems like the handheld market is shifting away from gaming devices.

Perhaps Nintendo should have just thrown out a sleek handheld that offered a store NES/SNES/N64 downloads, alongside a host of new content being released monthly. .99 for a new, mini Zelda game featuring a handful of dungeons. Get Capcom on board with some downloadable Contra, Megaman, SF, etc stuff. Full wifi including text message support to other Nintendo devices.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on July 20, 2011, 09:02:10 PM
AssCree3ds was cancelled in 2010 before the 3ds came out.  I think this is a first.  Massive withdrawal of western support for a nintendo system BEFORE it releases.



wow, you don't have any spin for that?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 20, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
The 3DS will never be anywhere near the DS.  The biggest reason is that it simply doesn't offer a good value.  In fact, it's probably the most egregious price gouging Nintendo has ever committed and hung themselves on their own hubris in the meantime.  Smartphones are almost ubiquitous at this point and will become moreso in the future -- they're not going away.  You can buy a 16 GB iPhone 4 for less than a 3DS yet the iPhone 4 offers almost infinitely more value.  I can see smartphone games progressing in valuable content in the future once the huge cash grabs of cheap shit has somewhat settled.  In other words, Nintendo can't get away with charging huge amounts of money for a 3DS and Nintendo Dogs.  The value just isn't there.

Another huge gaffe is banking on 3D.  I finally got around to playing one of those things and it almost gave me a headache, even if you held it the right way.  I turned down the slider and while it looks decent enough, with Vita on the horizon, again the 3DS isn't deserving of the MSRP that it is commanding.  Nintendo should drop it to $199 or lower if the Vita turns out to be anything other than a bomb.  Pokeyman and Mario are big enough games but that doesn't translate to exploding 3DS sales (see: N64 and Gamecube) as a result.  I guess we'll find out but my opinion is that with smartphones and a successfully marketed Vita, the 3DS will barely have a niche to call their own.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 20, 2011, 09:27:18 PM
AssCree3ds was cancelled in 2010 before the 3ds came out.  I think this is a first.  Massive withdrawal of western support for a nintendo system BEFORE it releases.



wow, you don't have any spin for that?

Oh will you stfu you poser.

I find the vitriol surrounding the Megaman "crisis" amusing.  Some euro rep makes an off the cuff remark and now self-entitled nerds are damning the whole company.  I'm seriously starting to think a majority of "hardcore" gamers are mentally ill.  Megaman ain't popular no more, I enjoyed megaman 9 as much as the next guy but it may be time to let it go.  Considering the multitude of sidescrolling platformer shootermerbobs past and future I'm sure they'll get their fix if without an artstyle that cribs astroboy.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Vizzys on July 20, 2011, 10:20:09 PM
I wanted my animu megaman dungeon exploring though
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 12:35:34 AM
Eh, its much more apparent with Megaman, almost to the subject matter.  Dr Light, Wily and Megaman are very obvious counterparts to uh those astro boy dudes whose names I can't remember. 

I just saying theres a multitude of games out there ranging from Earthworm Jim to Metal Slug that... wait they don't make those anymore.  Ummmmmm derp?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 12:45:14 AM
mega man 9 was relatively popular ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 21, 2011, 12:52:14 AM
I'm seriously starting to think a majority of "hardcore" gamers are mentally ill. 

Only starting to?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 01:04:06 AM
mega man 9 was relatively popular ???
Megaman 9 and 10 were arguably the cheapest sequels ever made and I have no doubt they were successful.  But if you start getting into something with production values and retail distribution  then outlook not so good.  I think Megaman from here on out is digital distribution and Smash Bros 4 dlc :teehee

I'm seriously starting to think a majority of "hardcore" gamers are mentally ill. 

Only starting to?

Well if you listen to most people talk about saaaay politics, the same irrational thought patterns show up.  I don't want to damn everyone just yet.  Except for the pc gamers. They're the first against the wall.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 01:09:51 AM
MM9 was successful, MM10 though...ehhhhhh
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 02:01:41 AM
In my defense IGAvania and Megaman and Metal Slug and etc. had a good long run.  It doesn't bother me too much if a dead series leaves behind an awesomely replayable legacy.

Anyways, I'm sure in ten years creatively bankrupt publishers will resort to banking on the nostalgia tards for the upteenth time.  Maybe Himuro can quit smoking and live to see it happen thrice over.

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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 02:24:18 AM
EmCee, we really like you dude but we just can't see any value in the 3DS. It's undepowered, overpriced, ugly, has little to no worthwile games (no Zelda, Mario, Metroid) and feels almost last-gen despite the next-gen 3D effect. That's it. There's no underlying Nintendo hate. Vita would also get smashed here if it offered the same.

Wha?  I ain't trying to convince ya'll to spend hundreds of dollars on anything.  I haven't convinced myself to get a 3ds at this point.  But I do hate hypocricy and erroneous arguments and cognitive dissonance.  So when people want to pretend that the graphical output of the vita is somehow going to match the average consumer's value expectation in a way the 3ds couldn't, I call foul.  It's a selfish way of interpreting the world to only validate what I or you personally enjoy. 

This last gen proved most people like control gimmicks and affordable disposable entertaiment moreso than normal mapping, hd resolutions, or what have you.  With that in mind, the vita is another 250 dollar waggle touchscreen portable with what I assume will be $40+ games as well.  Setting aside our preferences, the market potential for these devices similarly comes down to whether a machine that is primarily a games machine can carve a sustainable niche. 

Its one thing to anticipate the Vita/WiiU/Nextbox etc.  Its quite another to proclaim success or failure depending on "reason" extrapolated from your worldwishing.

That being said I AM a fanboy and WILL get irrationally defensive from time to time.  If anyone has a portfolio with enough mass market appeal to prop a system up, its nintendo. I'm sure if they decide to drop software prices things will improve for them.  Now, does that ever happen..... hmmm.  There's precedent with stuff like Endless Ocean (30ish) and Picross3d (20ish), so I BELIEVE.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 02:41:13 AM
I'm still not sure what practical use there is to maintaining an icon if its just .... there, underperforming.  Like Marvel had decades to expand their subject matter and appeal to new demographics but instead find another square inch of the dead horse to flog.  I think I'm rambling. Tired.

edit:  I don't think megaman is done either, for the record.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 02:56:51 AM
You said they provide constant reminders of credibility.  I'm not sure (my problem in understanding, not faulting your argument) what the practical application of this is.  I may need to continue this argument in the morning.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 03:25:33 AM
It adds to a company's brand.  Particularly in creative areas, that's important. 

Again I ask: Superman and Wonder Woman are not big moneymakers.  Should their books be canceled and the IP buried?

I mean, you're a Nintendo fan, this should be 101 stuff for you. 

I try to avoid 'should' when I can.  Hmmmm, am I in charge of DC?  Is my company publicly traded (I really don't know in the case of DC).  Do I have better alternatives?

Hypothetically speaking, I would probably sell the properties, try to develop graphic novel series in a multitude of genres outside of superheroes and mandate a recurring character with my name and likeness be written into every conceivable batman work til the day I die.  This is probably because I don't understand the value of Wonderwoman and think the green lanter is an uninteristing op piece of shit character. :x

Nintendo isn't really an apt comparison.  They do a fine job maintaining key brands and those that fall by the wayside make good smash bros content... oh wait, I might get it now... maybe.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 03:27:14 AM
In my defense IGAvania and Megaman and Metal Slug and etc. had a good long run.  It doesn't bother me too much if a dead series leaves behind an awesomely replayable legacy.

Anyways, I'm sure in ten years creatively bankrupt publishers will resort to banking on the nostalgia tards for the upteenth time.  Maybe Himuro can quit smoking and live to see it happen thrice over.

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except for sega :teehee
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Have YOU quit?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 21, 2011, 03:28:46 AM
In my defense IGAvania and Megaman and Metal Slug and etc. had a good long run.  It doesn't bother me too much if a dead series leaves behind an awesomely replayable legacy.

Anyways, I'm sure in ten years creatively bankrupt publishers will resort to banking on the nostalgia tards for the upteenth time.  Maybe Himuro can quit smoking and live to see it happen thrice over.

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except for sega :teehee
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Have YOU quit?

Many times ;)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 03:38:52 AM
Well have you "quit" NOW?

btw Camel BLUES. :bow

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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on July 21, 2011, 06:08:58 AM
monster tale was made by the guys who made harry hatsworth

oh and by the way,anybody else find it strange that this weird game gets the greenlight

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtaHUaQaGLw[/youtube]

but legends 3 get axed? i guess the budget for that is minuscule?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 21, 2011, 10:31:26 AM
At this point 3DS feels like some DS iteration,nothing wrong with that in principle but DS is like "7-8 years old hardware" that sold like crazy,meaning that anyone interested has already bought one.

Yes it's much more powerful than DS but competition still runs circles around it---and competition is strong,advancing rapidly,targeting the same consumers that made DS popular--the same tactics that made DS popular is basically worthless today.


If by some miracle Nintendo produces the next Brain Training,Nintendo Dogs---how long will it take to copy them and put that for few $$$ on some smartphone,tablet?
I give it month or two if it's not already there buried under tons of shit.

And then you will have $40 vs $5 debate for price sensitive consumers...and Iwata will cry again

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 21, 2011, 10:39:42 AM
I meant the next "Brain Training"---something that will make masses go crazy
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 21, 2011, 03:17:44 PM
I didn't realize that Capcom has now apparently become a popular fan hate object, like Square Enix has been for the past few years. Are there any big third-party Japanese developers/publishers that people still like?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 03:17:55 PM
I wonder if 3ds fails Nintendo will bring back "Game Boy".
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 03:19:01 PM
I didn't realize that Capcom has now apparently become a popular fan hate object, like Square Enix has been for the past few years. Are there any big third-party Japanese developers/publishers that people still like?

Atlus! Sega's a great publisher. Platinum Games, Grasshopper Manufacture.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: recursivelyenumerable on July 21, 2011, 03:20:26 PM
I was thinking more in terms of publishers with "star" internal development teams, and the big names that everyone remembers from the 80s and 90s, but I guess Atlus sort of counts.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 03:24:37 PM
The big names from 80''s/90's? Naw, everyone hates them these days.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Herr Mafflard on July 21, 2011, 03:33:39 PM
(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_loogaaHZhw1qko67ho1_500.png)

 :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Great Rumbler on July 21, 2011, 03:52:22 PM
Viewtiful Joe and Mega Man died the true death. :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on July 21, 2011, 04:35:26 PM
http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=163829

:rofl

capcom clearly kicked the dog,because he looked like rush :teehee

(the thing was already debunked at the capcom unity sites BUT CLEARLY CAPCOM IS EVIL AND THAT'S ONLY A COVER!!1!)

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 21, 2011, 04:36:39 PM
Reported as fake.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Purple Filth on July 21, 2011, 05:14:34 PM
Some dude claims he has video.

This is getting better and better.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Lerkaboi on July 25, 2011, 02:43:07 AM
3ds under review by amazon :lol
 

http://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-3DS-Cosmo-Black/dp/B002I096AA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311574572&sr=8-1
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 25, 2011, 05:11:42 AM
i blame nintendo

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 25, 2011, 06:56:20 AM
In other news,

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Week 27

Quote
01 (01) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo)
02 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
03 (03) [NDS] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
04 (06) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)
05 (08) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
06 (07) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
07 (04) [WII] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
08 (__) [WII] Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
09 (__) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
10 (05) [WII] Wii Play Motion (Nintendo)

magus :piss2
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on July 25, 2011, 06:59:58 AM
what? ???
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 25, 2011, 07:04:13 AM
go buy some games
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 25, 2011, 07:25:25 AM
In other news,

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Week 27

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01 (01) [NDS] Pokemon White (Nintendo)
02 (02) [NDS] Pokemon Black (Nintendo)
03 (03) [NDS] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
04 (06) [NDS] Inazuma Eleven (Nintendo)
05 (08) [WII] Wii Fit Plus + Balance Board (Nintendo)
06 (07) [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo)
07 (04) [WII] Cars 2 (Disney Interactive Studios)
08 (__) [WII] Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
09 (__) [WII] Just Dance 2 (Ubisoft)
10 (05) [WII] Wii Play Motion (Nintendo)

magus :piss2

Italians are poors?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on July 25, 2011, 09:29:30 AM
uh, that looks better than most PSP games, actually.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on July 25, 2011, 01:07:17 PM
uh, that looks better than most PSP games, actually.

3DS deserves plenty of hate, but while you some titles that look like PSP games, there are others that look noticeably better.  I broke out my PSP after having not touched it for months the other day, and games did not look as good as I remembered them after a large amount of SSF4/Mercs/DOA play time on 3DS.

The PSP resolution still looks a lot better though.   :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on July 25, 2011, 02:35:21 PM
uh, that looks better than most PSP games, actually.

It better, the PSP was released in 2005
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2011, 02:38:04 PM
Finally a 3DS game that looks on par with best PSP titles:

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:bow 3DS :bow2

Oh wait here's how it really looks:

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:piss 3DS :piss2
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Cannot even match 2004 hardware :lol

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 25, 2011, 02:45:08 PM
Borys, ds cannot render a game like that. That's more like psp level.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on July 25, 2011, 05:59:47 PM
if that looks like nintendo 64 to you, then you must be po...

mexican.

It's times like these when I  :heartbeat your posts :) 

I remember there was a time where we didn't get along or something but I don't even remember what it was about or why I cared.  Now I'm glad to be sharing boards with you  :-*
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on July 25, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 25, 2011, 06:52:07 PM
I've got some free time, so I bought a 3DS and Zelda from amazon warehouse (so I can beat the game within 30 days and return it!) 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on July 25, 2011, 06:59:54 PM
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already

Why do I always post things that I know will get me ridiculed by my peers?

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I think subconsciously I enjoy it  :-\
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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 25, 2011, 07:08:10 PM
the Acekard 2i still works with this thing after a firmware update, right?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on July 25, 2011, 07:14:26 PM
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already

Why do I always post things that I know will get me ridiculed by my peers?

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I think subconsciously I enjoy it  :-\
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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: TakingBackSunday on July 25, 2011, 07:29:28 PM
Bebpo why dont you just ask permission to kiss him already

bahahhah
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 26, 2011, 12:29:01 AM
Did people forget what ds games look like or something equally egregious?

I want some of you ninnys to compare the '3d' gba games to the 3d ds games.  Then compare those to the 3d games on 3ds.  Pretty large jumps within that context.  A less fallacious comparison would be 2d stuff cus then we coild kvetch about resolution and pixel density.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 26, 2011, 01:09:59 AM
To be serious: it looks good for a DS game. DS was the successor to GBA. 3DS, the successor to the DS, should be on a whole another level.

It is pretty sad that even smartphones have games looking better than that.

What are you on about Nintendo never had the state fo the art technology graphically on any fo their handhelds.  GB was BLACK & WHITE.  GBA was still inferior to the Neo Geo Pocket.  The DS in comparison to the PSP are you kidding?

Nintendo's biggest failing this time is the poor battery life that ALL 3 of them had good amount of in comparison to the competition.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: The Sceneman on July 26, 2011, 01:17:38 AM
To be serious: it looks good for a DS game. DS was the successor to GBA. 3DS, the successor to the DS, should be on a whole another level.

It is pretty sad that even smartphones have games looking better than that.

you are so weird

do you also think final fantasy 10 looks good for a ps1 game?

to be honest, Borys has no grounds for any handheld graphical comparisons. He has been wanting a PSP for years but can't afford one. But he also travels to Milan for business? Only in Poland.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 26, 2011, 02:28:25 AM
:heart Wonderswan
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 26, 2011, 03:29:24 AM
Oh my bad i meant the pc engine GT.

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iYw4z_-lK4[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 27, 2011, 03:29:53 AM
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According to GoNintendo, a French representative of the Japanese publisher, said the game will not be releasing in 2011 in the US or UK.  Konami have now stated: “We have not announced MGS 3DS North American shipdate yet,” So we shall have to wait and see if this unfortunate rumour is true.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 27, 2011, 05:31:22 AM
bubububu Nintendo gave third parties some free space and they didn't deliver
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on July 27, 2011, 06:38:28 AM
We knew this since N64.

Although I feel that it actually started to happen on the SNES even, since people that really wanted Nintendo games waited on the SNES and didnt get the Mega Drive. So thats when the split started.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 27, 2011, 02:22:01 PM
I find it kinda hard to swallow that the tens of millions of wii/ds owners were searching their game boxes for the indication that Nintendo proper made/published the game.  Isn't it much more likely that Nintendo is just THAT good when it comes to realising intriguing concepts with polished accessible games and then follow through on marketing?  As a for instance,  Just Dance had done incredible numbers for capitalising on an obvious application of waggle that Nintendo/otherpublisher never commited to.

I think theres more of an argument that a hardware manufacturer is ultimately in charge of cultivating what demographics use their console by way of first party tentpole releases.  Halo garnered a userbase that propelled the Call of Duty franchise to spectacular heights.  I wouldn't be surprised if jrpgs/srpgs transitioning to handhelds had some factor tied into Pokemon and the advancewars/fireemblem games on the gba.  I feel like my argument is a little weak though, but these are my hunches.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 27, 2011, 03:02:59 PM
I revisit the late 80s and early 90s animation stuff and its pretty easy to see why Disney suceeded and others failed and subsequently why Disney had such a decline (the decline was a quality and stagnation issue, not so much cus they didn't incorporate 3d enough).  In general earlier Don Bluth stuff had better budgets, were backed by major studios, and delved into subject matter beyond the typical Disney princess mold.  An American Tail and Land Before Time was successful, All Dogs Go To Heaven less so (it was kinda edgy) but wiki said its vhs sales made up for it.  Later on they released shit like Pebble and the Penguin, Thumbelina and Rock a Doodle, which were very safe and saccharine by comparison.  The market reception suffered for it (and the animation and writing were pretty bad too) The Disney stuff was still doing better but from Little Mermaid to Lion King was a time where their production values were unrivaled for the medium.  The smaller animation outlets began to suffer with Disney after Lion King because the animated musical template was running its course.  Although Toy Story was certainly a success partly because of its polygonal canvas, it also approached the storytelling in a way that reversed the condescending nature of the medium to an extent.

I say a lot of words that don't amount to much in this case, but my main point is that many animated features did succeed on genuine merit.  Disney's decline I believe began with Hercules, and instead of attributing that to not adapting the formula with stronger works they figured audiences would give a shit about the 3d integration of Treasure Planet or whatever they were trying to accomplish with fucking Atlantis.

Using the 3ds as a starting point for Nintendo's inclusive strategy, is there a game that should've succeeded exceptionally well if their userbase was totally neutral and judged a game based on merit?  Westerners haven't capitalised on it at all, so if we think about what constitutes a major release by a japanese publisher, we'll have to look to Capcom's games and possibly the new Layton.  Which did ... ~alright~ I guess.  I'm not sure if Street Fighter is as hot as Capcom thinks it is following 4's initial release.  There may be some value qualms about it and Mercs 3d being 40 bucks.  Haven't been paying attention to Layton.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 27, 2011, 03:22:51 PM
So like I mentioned last page or so, I ordered a 3DS, Zelda, and Dead or Alive to play temporarily, then return to Amazon.  Usually, people buy video game systems for enjoyment, me included, but since I'm pretty disinterested and bored and nerdy, I got a chance to really look at this thing and assess it.  This is gonna be a long post because, and I don't know if I'm jaded (please tell me if I am), but the 3DS seems like a bigger mess than I would've thought could come from Nintendo at this point.  They had infinite dollars to throw at this thing, but we got the safest system imaginable.  I'm just wondering if that's because Nintendo doesn't really have its finger on what modern electronics are like or if they just want to be as cheap as possible...I really hope for their sake it's the latter.  

First, the UI is obviously made by a company that has never made a phone GUI before and has, thus, missed out on the world since the Blackberry and iPhone.  They got the tiled icons right, the unique music for each item is nice, the graphics are cool, but that's where it stops.  It's functional, but maybe my iPhone and Windows 7 and OSX have all ruined me because it feels like barely above the regular DS.  Like, instead of just having a quick wi-fi set up or quick access to system settings, I click something and it has to load this whole other screen with buttons that just lead to more stand-alone windows.  It's like browsing the internet, but every link you click opens a new window and it takes a few seconds to switch between all the windows and you can only go in sequential order.  In iOS or XMB, I can hop from one place to another without feeling like I'm going anywhere in the UI, unless I'm opening a non-native app.  That's how the 3DS should make me feel, at a minimum.  Right now, it feels like a complicated series of windows bogged down by hardware that can't keep it snappy.  

Was it too much for me to expect Nintendo's UI to be a lot more modern?  I don't think so.  I have no doubt it would've been better if they looked at how touch interfaces are done on mobile phones.  My old verizon shit phone from 5 years ago is snappier and better streamlined than the 3DS interface.  Or for a better example, they could have looked at the original PSP.  I have no doubt Vita will come out, have a UI inspired by Sony's work on phones, and just look and feel like a modern handheld out the gate.  Nintendo's new console feels old right out the gate.  Like, not even as good as the original PSP.  The camera software is cool but the camera resolution is so low that it's basically useless.  AR games, face raiders, etc.  Neat ideas that you use a little and never touch again.

Next, the form factor.  Seems to be made for kid hands and I wish it were a little more rounded on the corners or have a better base, because it hurts my hands.  To be fair, I get this with every handheld until I put some kind of grip on it. But seriously, where's the second analog stick?  Why on earth, after every 3D PSP game got bashed for worse controls, would they leave one out?  It's just a gimped form of control in this day and age, as it was on the N64 so many years ago.  2 analog + touch screen would've been good enough.  They wouldn't have even needed a 3D gimmick.  Just give me "3D" games that control like "3D" games on consoles already.  Oh, and the second analog stick would not have been as easy for phone companies to simply lift for free and put on their phones, like the 3D was.  I guess it goes without saying that even my toaster has a touch screen nowadays, so it's not even a bullet point, particularly since touch games were not the best games on the original DS and touch and motion control gaming will probably always be inferior to traditional controllers.

Dead or Alive -- it's a DOA game but worse because it's on a handheld.  Great, clean graphics, as always from the series.  3D is useless because fighting games on handhelds = moving around the screen quite a bit.  They have always put out DOA games right at the beginning of a console cycle-- PS2, Xbox 1, 360-- but this handheld version feels like a waste.  DOA5 for consoles with a proper ad campaign would do fine right now, especially if it were made tournament worthy so it can latch on to that hype.  I don't care enough to get into the meat and potatoes of the fighting engine because whatever, who is going to play it for balance against the CPU?  I couldn't even get into an online match with "ANY" put for all of the choices.  Literally nobody playing it online, I guess?  Great sign when you're one of 10 games on a brand new system.

Zelda - Same great game we got on the N64, great graphical and control improvements.  3D is once again useless because you will be moving the system around a lot due to the game requiring all the buttons and a lot of fidgeting around with different button combinations.  I don't think I got focused enough to even see it perfectly in 3D.

So yeah, when it hit me that Zelda is not quite playable with 3D on, I realized this system is pretty rushed and mediocre.  Without 3D, it's a slightly better PSP with 2 screens and a touch screen.   I am guessing that the revision will have more stable 3D and get a push from 1st party software, which will keep it alive.  I guess this is like the original GBA and original DS where the first version of the system sucks.  
 
DSware store -  just lol.  The problems of the system UI, but multiplied by 100 because you're trying to browse many things quickly.  The search function allowed me to pull up everything on the store, but I couldn't sort it alphabetically and I could only look at about 6 things at a time, I think?  Then it would take a few seconds to load the next 6.  Excitebike 3D took about 5 minutes to download and I'm pretty the file size was in kb!  Unbelievable.  This is some fucking AOL shit, not even kidding a little.  It goes so slow and has such a clunky interface that I'm back in 1994 with my 14.4kbs modem.  Except I think searching AOL chat rooms was easier than browsing a list of what's in the Nintendo store.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 27, 2011, 03:27:12 PM
The lack of a second analog/slider has been quoted as a space issue.  They had no more room for gizmos or even a larger battery.  I think this is why the vita is almost like a mini tablet.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 27, 2011, 03:41:00 PM
The lack of a second analog/slider has been quoted as a space issue.  They had no more room for gizmos or even a larger battery.  I think this is why the vita is almost like a mini tablet.

Nintendo said it's a "space issue"?  That's not really a solid answer...it's their job to make a case that has space for that.  Like I said, they have infinite dollars after the Wii and DS/Lite/XL/DSi.   Not to play forum games industry expert guy, but it seems like the smarter move would have been to beat Sony to the "portable home console experience" punch this time around. 

Who knows, I would have said the original DS was a mistake and was gonna die too
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 27, 2011, 03:46:24 PM
I don't think they care about a console experience on the go.

I also think they didn't want to release a behemoth unit just to incorporate a larger battery and a second analog.  The dsixl was an exception that seemed to be made for arthritic half-blind old people.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 27, 2011, 04:03:44 PM
pretty much every game Nintendo or third parties are putting out sans Layton are console games

both literally as ports and conceptually
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 27, 2011, 04:09:24 PM
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The lack of a second analog/slider has been quoted as a space issue.  They had no more room for gizmos or even a larger battery.  I think this is why the vita is almost like a mini tablet.

hahahaha

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Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 27, 2011, 04:18:49 PM
I don't think they care about a console experience on the go.

I also think they didn't want to release a behemoth unit just to incorporate a larger battery and a second analog.  The dsixl was an exception that seemed to be made for arthritic half-blind old people.


Bullshit they don't care about a console experience on the go.  They're already doing it, but their hardware is always a few steps behind.  There are few handheld games in existence that don't have some kind of console analog (whether it's an 8 bit console game or a current console game.)  The next Nintendo handheld will have a second analog stick because consumers don't have an artificial divide between console and handheld anymore.  They want what they get in their homes on the go from an expensive dedicated device or a cheap replacement via $.99 games on their phones.

I guess time will tell and they'll probably get rescued by Mario and Pokemon again, which is not the worst strategy in the world.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2011, 04:27:09 PM
Even Mario looks meh.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 27, 2011, 04:30:06 PM
Even Mario looks meh.


They have a couple Mario ("mainline" like SMB, NSMB, or Galaxy or Mario Kart), a couple mainline Zelda, and a couple mainline Pokemon stinkers in them before people actually stop buying the game though.  It's the same as the Call of Duty series (MW3 may break records even if it's the worst game in the series), except with like 25 years of hardcore fandom and stellar games to back it up, so it would take much longer to die out.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 27, 2011, 04:46:38 PM
I'm not speaking on numbers. Mario will sell.

But it looks pretty bullshit, catering to the 3d aspect of the system rather than making solid level design.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on July 27, 2011, 09:20:05 PM
The lack of a second analog/slider has been quoted as a space issue.  They had no more room for gizmos or even a larger battery.  I think this is why the vita is almost like a mini tablet.

Nintendo said it's a "space issue"?  That's not really a solid answer...it's their job to make a case that has space for that.  Like I said, they have infinite dollars after the Wii and DS/Lite/XL/DSi.   Not to play forum games industry expert guy, but it seems like the smarter move would have been to beat Sony to the "portable home console experience" punch this time around. 

Who knows, I would have said the original DS was a mistake and was gonna die too

That is because the 3DS design is very half assed.  It's such a shame that the PSP didn't provide stiffer competition for the DS outside of Japan.  Maybe then the 3DS would have been much better or much cheaper than what we ended up getting.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 27, 2011, 10:29:17 PM
Portable gaming systems are dead if even the big N can't hack it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 27, 2011, 10:39:01 PM
Vita looks good, hopefully sony doesn't fuck something up with it. 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 27, 2011, 11:36:07 PM
And what did they fuck up?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on July 27, 2011, 11:37:07 PM
3ds will be dead and buried in 7 years. Probably 5 too
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 27, 2011, 11:49:30 PM
If the result is the best portable system with great games like the PSP--awesome

oh, unless you mean sales?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 27, 2011, 11:51:58 PM
Nah the DS towers ahead of the psp game wise.  Strange Journey, Radiant Historia alone rapes the psp library.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 27, 2011, 11:52:45 PM
:lol
Oscar, dude, I always appreciate when you set me straight (its the only way I learn!), but I was seriously :lol when it began to dawn on me that you meticulously track movie figures too.

Want to be asperger buddies?

edit:
And do you personally think there was a 3ds launch game that could've done better if not for the proposed Nintendo audience.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 28, 2011, 12:05:47 AM
The DS would have done better if it had a better battery life.  Simple as that, there is simply no reason why why you should get a 3ds over the vita.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on July 28, 2011, 12:37:00 AM
well, yeah.  Vita might do alright in the west at first, similar to the PSP, but it's really the Japanese support that's exciting.  Not that I don't want strong support from western developers too.  It's just that the Vita has the best shot of delivering proper 'next gen' Japanese gaming.  But yes, the localization thing is worrying.  Worst case, I'll import games that aren't text heavy.  although I don't think there is region free confirmation, despite people at SCEE and other sources mentioning it is.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Smooth Groove on July 28, 2011, 01:44:51 AM
At this point it's a bit tooo optimistic to expect Vita to have more than mostly 3rd tier and some 2nd tier developer support, just like the PSP. 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 28, 2011, 03:27:08 AM
Awesome, here comes the fire sale. My change purse is ready!

shame Oscar doesn't live in Sydney, I could give him a job he would consider masturbation
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 28, 2011, 03:28:40 AM
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ohntv John Ricciardi
Free VC games to original 3DS owners on Sept. 1: Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong Jr, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Legend of Zelda

johntv John Ricciardi
And free VC GBA games sometime this year: Super Mario Advance 3, Mario Kart Advance, Metroid Fusion, Made in Wario, Mario vs. Donkey Kong.

Sorry for the price drop, you should have bought a used GBA instead!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 28, 2011, 03:45:00 AM
sacre titty fuck, nintendo's dropping the price of the 3ds to 15,000 yen in japan from august 11th

that's a 40% price cut



Hope that come all over the world. :spin
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 28, 2011, 03:50:18 AM
check the other thread, AUS$249
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 28, 2011, 04:23:16 AM
PSP2 might become the best port machine ever.This time it has good controls(second analog yay) and good graphics tech(shader 3.x+).

PS360 ports should be reasonably cheap and that way Vita buyers will have tons of games to play with...yes,ports--but ports of popular big budget Western games

If audience reacts reasonably well those games will be made,if not---PSP droughts ahoy,Sony might port some of their stuff but they are no match for third parties
Get Rockstar,Bethesda,Bioware,Valve,Crytek,etc on board and then we can talk.I would rather have Fallout 3/RDR port than some toothpick budget RPG/FPS/TPS.


Something for ninthings

Zero punctuation shitting on nostalgia fans
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3780-The-Legend-of-Zelda-Ocarina-of-Time-3D (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3780-The-Legend-of-Zelda-Ocarina-of-Time-3D)


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sacre titty fuck, nintendo's dropping the price of the 3ds to 15,000 yen in japan from august 11th

that's a 40% price cut

interesting

good move



Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on July 28, 2011, 04:51:59 AM
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ports aren't going to sell shit, the psp had ports too

I know but without them,what is left to do? I don't see anyone investing much into Vita games exclusively---maybe into some spinoffs from development leftovers,maybe

Ports and maybe some PS360Vita simultaneous release but this gen is coming to an end.Next E3 PS4/nextxbox buzz---Vita gets the boot

Depressing situation :(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Lerkaboi on July 28, 2011, 04:56:07 AM
now we know the answer to the thread title is a solid, resounding FUCK NO
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on July 28, 2011, 07:38:24 AM
check the other thread, AUS$249

That is not good enough considering the Aussie dollar is above the US dollar at the moment.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: pilonv1 on July 28, 2011, 08:26:56 AM
Yep, $153 it works out to.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on July 28, 2011, 09:02:41 AM
Nice price drop.  GBA VC was severely needed too.

Now just drop software prices.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on July 28, 2011, 10:12:59 AM
Nah the DS towers ahead of the psp game wise.  Strange Journey, Radiant Historia alone rapes the psp library.

LOL.

Give me the PSP over the DS any day.  The only reasons I play my 3DS now are for SSF4, RE Mercs, and DOA-- and I doubt I will care about these when the Vita comes out.

Gameboy was awesome.  Gameboy Advance was awesome.  DS is where it started going downhill.  But I guess if you like nothing but JRPGs you might have enjoyed it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 28, 2011, 10:29:52 AM
Reggie read my scathing review and decided to drop the price


cool price but GAEMS?!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Himu on July 28, 2011, 10:53:44 AM
ds and psp was the best system war since snes vs genesis for all the reasons oscar-san just posted
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: demi on July 28, 2011, 10:53:47 AM
I dunno why you guys comment to Damian. Guy is asspie central.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on July 28, 2011, 11:00:02 AM
Speaking of DS vs PSP, does anyone know which one has the superior version of Knights in the Nightmare? I would guess psp.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on July 29, 2011, 09:49:10 AM
At this point it's a bit tooo optimistic to expect Vita to have more than mostly 3rd tier and some 2nd tier developer support, just like the PSP. 


Sony first party has become more important on PS3, so maybe they'll take it seriously on Vita.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Van Cruncheon on July 29, 2011, 10:31:02 PM
I'd give the nod to the DS version because the game was built for the touch screen and it's hard to keep up on the PSP version. 

It's already a really challenging game without adding control issues into the mix.

this
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on August 08, 2011, 10:55:24 AM
My kid even backed off the 3DS. It went from "I want one," to "Nevermind, I want a DSi LL instead!"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on August 08, 2011, 07:00:48 PM
LOL.

Give me the PSP over the DS any day.  The only reasons I play my 3DS now are for SSF4, RE Mercs, and DOA-- and I doubt I will care about these when the Vita comes out.

Gameboy was awesome.  Gameboy Advance was awesome.  DS is where it started going downhill.  But I guess if you like nothing but JRPGs you might have enjoyed it.

Lots of great non-JRPGs on the DS.  You just stopped looking.

Like?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on August 08, 2011, 07:12:40 PM
Ouendan
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVEwf9rlFfM[/youtube]

Handheld game of the forever :bow
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on August 08, 2011, 07:16:30 PM
Ouendan

OSU!

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8rfWf2tuOA&feature=related[/youtube]

i wish my touch screen wasn't fucked just so i could play this again though ironicaly the reason my touch screen is fucked in the first place is probably this game!

ds has tons of good game,it's just the last year that have been shitty but heck it just seems a malady of every nintendo console

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on August 08, 2011, 07:21:15 PM
Didn't like Ouendan or Elite Beat Agents.  Give me Gitaroo Man instead.

The only DS titles I think I've purchased in the last few years have been the last two Ace Attorney titles.  I have all of those, all three Castlevanias, Meteos, Contra IV, Planet Puzzle League, Tetris DS, Ninja Gaiden DS, NSMB, Rhythm Tengoku, Bangaioh, Bleach DS 2nd, and one or two others I can't think of.  I also have a flash cart with shit I've downloaded, but I probably haven't loaded that up in over two years.  I pretty much lost interest in the DS after 2008, and always liked the PSP (a lot) more.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on August 08, 2011, 07:32:57 PM
TRAUMA CENTER
NAUW!

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgHUp8Po12o&feature=related[/youtube]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on August 08, 2011, 07:37:16 PM
Don't care about it.   :P  You guys are also naming old games.  How about the last 3-4 years?  That's when I stopped paying attention to the DS.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on August 08, 2011, 08:01:26 PM
try this?

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DdAUHM8MK4[/youtube]

3D picross king of pointless time wasters :bow

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRAVZrEfYks[/youtube]

this has an improved version on xbla... does it count anyway?

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6NggJUPQfY[/youtube]

the last two actionish games i can think of released on the DS are okamiden and solatorobo,solatorobo is quite nice but at the moment it's europe only,okamiden is kinda sucky if you ask me

you could try scribblenauts,but it's a really overhyped and lame game and besides do you really want to play a game that feels so self-important that it makes a reference to a post on "the other forum" that's so covered in fanboy drool,it's stink went all over across the internet?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on August 08, 2011, 09:14:38 PM
Picross 3D is incredible
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on August 09, 2011, 02:02:30 AM
I updated my 3ds for the free games and tried the e-store for the first time.

WTF

they want $6 for NES/GBA roms untouched.

Actual DSware games they want $12+ like Shantae.


What's with this pricing?  Compared to XBLA/PSN it's terrible!


Also is there anything even worth buying?  I never had a DSi so didn't play any DSware.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on August 09, 2011, 02:19:33 AM
Did you get a Japanese 3DS? Aa Mujou Setsuna is a good shooter from Arika on DSiware. I think it's region locked to the JP store though, not sure.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on August 09, 2011, 02:27:18 AM
nope.  US.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on August 09, 2011, 02:37:38 AM
Oh wait, I think it got released in the US as Metal Torrent last year. I never played it myself, but it has a few fans and seems to be well received.

I think Dark Void Zero is a DSiware game too. That looked kinda neat.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on August 09, 2011, 05:53:49 AM
have you never seen the wiiware shop bebpo? there it was 5$ for a nes game 8$ for a snes game and 10$ for a n64 game and if they released a game that was japan only (like super mario bros the extra level or sin & punishment) you had to pay an extra 1$/2$
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 09, 2011, 08:42:24 AM
The worst part is, virtual console games look just as blurry and shitty as ds games
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on August 09, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
Seems like Walmart is dropping the price to $170 on August 9th, a few days before the deadline to get the "free" 20 games.


and Bebpo, don't bother with anything on any nintendo online service unless you must play them.  Purchases are tied to the system, meaning you're almost shit outta luck if it breaks or switch to a new machine, like a revision.  There are some good stuff on Wiiware and DSiware, but it's best to avoid

Oh wait, I think it got released in the US as Metal Torrent last year. I never played it myself, but it has a few fans and seems to be well received.

I think Dark Void Zero is a DSiware game too. That looked kinda neat.

Dark Void Zero is entertaining and lasts under an hour.  But it's on PC and iPhone too, and the PC version gets cheap during Steam sales.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 09, 2011, 10:56:39 AM
Wait, is bebpo saying there are gba games on the estore?  They said it wasn't happening for awhile.  Id gladly drop 6 bucks for the better games.

The ware services gems are usually Skip's Artstyle games.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on August 09, 2011, 01:02:56 PM
Seems like Walmart is dropping the price to $170 on August 9th, a few days before the deadline to get the "free" 20 games.


and Bebpo, don't bother with anything on any nintendo online service unless you must play them.  Purchases are tied to the system, meaning you're almost shit outta luck if it breaks or switch to a new machine, like a revision.  There are some good stuff on Wiiware and DSiware, but it's best to avoid

Oh wait, I think it got released in the US as Metal Torrent last year. I never played it myself, but it has a few fans and seems to be well received.

I think Dark Void Zero is a DSiware game too. That looked kinda neat.

Dark Void Zero is entertaining and lasts under an hour.  But it's on PC and iPhone too, and the PC version gets cheap during Steam sales.

Yup.  I got the iPhone version for a dollar.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Bebpo on August 09, 2011, 04:04:43 PM
Wait, is bebpo saying there are gba games on the estore?  They said it wasn't happening for awhile.  Id gladly drop 6 bucks for the better games.

The ware services gems are usually Skip's Artstyle games.

Meant GB games for $6
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on August 09, 2011, 09:06:52 PM
I thought select titles were 6 and others were 3?  Link's Awakening is worth 6 as far as I'm concerned.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Nes games aren't even worth 5 unless its megaman or mario :piss NES
[close]
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: iconoclast on August 09, 2011, 09:46:53 PM
Metal Storm & Ninja Gaiden > All Nintendo NES games
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shuri on August 09, 2011, 10:14:14 PM
The guys at work will only buy a 169$ 3DS if there's a working flashcart for 3ds titles for it...  :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on August 09, 2011, 10:22:28 PM
^ Describes pretty much all my friends. "How're we gonna play Mario Kart's MP like we used to?... buy 6 copies?! fuck that."
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on August 10, 2011, 12:19:10 AM
I dont know anyone who knows what this device is. People were talking about 3d phones once and some manchild whipped out a 3ds to the yawns of all
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 10, 2011, 02:19:39 PM
The worst part is, virtual console games look just as blurry and shitty as ds games

seinfeldputtinghishandsupandleaving.gif 


this console is dead to me. 

will buy on clearance with zelda...next year
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: bork on August 11, 2011, 07:43:50 PM
You can play VC games at their original resolutions, albeit with smaller screen sizes.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Don Flamenco on August 11, 2011, 07:59:16 PM
yeah, the 1:1 setting looked nice, but was too small.   I mean, this is 2011, come up with an actual filter for the scaled up version, nintendo.  It's only been a standard thing in emulators for about 15 years or so

You'd think that since Nintendo's DD model is "emulate all of our old shit" they'd at least give the user a better experience than what illegal emulation would provide...that's kinda what they're competing with :lol
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Damian79 on August 11, 2011, 08:01:53 PM
E that would make it blurry and more sucky.  Filters double some likes and not double others lines.  It is fine is you have a 1080p screen not good if your screen is slightly bigger.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on August 12, 2011, 12:43:25 AM
Filters can't really fix it.  The screens are too low resolution on the 3DS.

But I don't understand Nintendo's aversion to adding options.  You have to press an arbitrary combo of buttons to enable that original resolution mode.  On the PSP, there is an options menu after pressing home.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Sho Nuff on August 12, 2011, 02:03:26 AM
"If this is legal emulation, I'd rather break the law"
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on October 19, 2011, 05:04:22 AM
New month,new conference

http://andriasang.com/comyo0/ (http://andriasang.com/comyo0/)

Quote
The company announced today that it will hold the "Nintendo 3DS New Information Internet Presentation" on Friday (October 21). This pre-recorded presentation, hosted by CEO Satoru Iwata, will cover details that could not be covered during the September event.

As an example of what to expect from the event, Nintendo mentioned details on the 3DS system's November firmware update and Mario Kart 7's wireless play support.

The presentation will be held at 20:00 and will be broadcast at Ustream and Nico Nico Video. See Nintendo's page for links when the time comes.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: AdmiralViscen on October 19, 2011, 10:02:02 AM
Where are my free gba games
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: tiesto on October 19, 2011, 10:11:06 AM
Won't stop Nintards from expecting a new StarTropics revival with a cameo from Mach Rider.

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on October 19, 2011, 03:10:57 PM
Hay guyz check out this second stick! *conference over*
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 19, 2011, 06:42:48 PM
I'm looking forward to eshop revamp details and what exactly the os level invites entail (the one they showed in the mario kart clip at the last conference) I wanna believe simple messaging will show up too because even the wii had that going for it.

But, no, shouldn't be any game announcements other than potentially unveling gba vc.  I reeeaaaallly want advance wars.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: tiesto on October 19, 2011, 08:26:50 PM
Man, Nintendo hype always gets me for some reason, because I still cling on to that desperate hope that there's a small sliver left of what made them great in the NES and SNES days...
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 19, 2011, 09:02:58 PM
Man, Nintendo hype always gets me for some reason, because I still cling on to that desperate hope that there's a small sliver left of what made them great in the NES and SNES days...

Draconian control over their publishing partners?
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Raban on October 20, 2011, 01:09:17 AM
always a joy to get the dc forecast
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on October 21, 2011, 07:03:39 AM
Stream

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/nintendo_direct/index.html (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/nintendo_direct/index.html)

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 21, 2011, 08:38:14 AM
Summary from GN:
record 3D video for up to 10 minutes
do interval recording and many other options
allows for stop-motion animation
Find Mii getting new map update
firmware adds ability to transfer 3DS software to other 3DS units
basic eShop improvements
Mario Kart 7 installs a Mario Kart Channel
get ghosts from other 3DS players via StreetPass
select a person's data from the Mario Kart Channel and race them online
8 player online, 60 FPS
community features added, allowing you to create your own community
daily downloads for ghost data via SpotPass as well
new samurai game announced
Thruspace getting an eShop version
Itsuno ma ni Koukan Nikki is a tool for exchanging photos and other things with other players, due out this Dec. for free
Lost Heroes, an RPG featuring Gundam, Ultraman, Kamen Rider and more
3000 people will win one of those special Mario-themed 3DS'
everyone that takes part in the campaign (???) gets 3D Classics: Kid Icarus for free
3D Classics: Kid Icarus will also eventually be offered as a paid download
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: magus on October 21, 2011, 08:58:36 AM
Quote
Lost Heroes, an RPG featuring Gundam, Ultraman, Kamen Rider and more

wait wait wait they are bringing back great battle? :o

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4IUT8OnZpI&feature=related[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNfSphQBSa4[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9IVrkSEUo[/youtube]

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HFcPMuGPVM[/youtube]

oh and here's a video of the samurai game

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LalsCUx1vis&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

kinda looks like okami

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbVsRNcco2A&feature=channel_video_title[/youtube]

etrian gundamssey
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 21, 2011, 10:04:52 AM
Unbelievably, I think they've pulled the 3DS's ass out of the fire in Japan. 

The healthy numbers and green lit projects left and right suggest that. I hope this continues and the Vita ends up doing pretty decently as well. The smartphone market's march needs to be halted or held back at least in one territory :maf
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on October 21, 2011, 10:59:58 AM
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=W7w1HeP4clU[/youtube]



"What's wrong with you?"


haha

(http://i.imgur.com/S3bec.png)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 21, 2011, 04:10:02 PM
Unbelievably, I think they've pulled the 3DS's ass out of the fire in Japan. 

The healthy numbers and green lit projects left and right suggest that. I hope this continues and the Vita ends up doing pretty decently as well. The smartphone market's march needs to be halted or held back at least in one territory :maf

Don't pretend your hands are clean!
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 21, 2011, 04:14:16 PM
community features added, allowing you to create Lost Heroes, an RPG featuring Gundam, Ultraman, Kamen Rider and more

Who cares? It will never leave Japan, and the stupid thing is region-locked.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on October 21, 2011, 04:26:10 PM
Yep, they pretty blatantly hardly care about any region besides Japan with the 3DS.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Eel O'Brian on October 21, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
jesus reggie wipe your chin
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2011, 08:31:14 AM
Unbelievably, I think they've pulled the 3DS's ass out of the fire in Japan. 

How so? Most peeps at work is still claiming doom and damnation.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on October 22, 2011, 10:21:29 AM
Thanks for the clarification.

And, as stated earlier in the thread, Japan is really all that Nintendo cares about, when it gets to its heart of hearts.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on October 22, 2011, 12:04:38 PM
oh and here's a video of the samurai game

[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LalsCUx1vis&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

kinda looks like okami


that looks pretty cool.  like punchout/infinity blade with samurai.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 22, 2011, 03:14:25 PM
Outside of pokemon and mario I can see them having some trubbs in the West.  I'm trying to think of how they can overcome the mentality of western development + appealling to predominantly mobile gamers and I'm kinda blank.  If there was some non-difficult way to get media to play on the thing it might go a long way.  Maybe some itunes esque thing that could be used for easy data management.   
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 23, 2011, 01:26:07 PM
The vast majority of ios software is wormy dogshit.  If it wasn't for recommendation threads I'd steer clear of it at all costs.  So Nintendo's meager content isn't what I would consider a disadvantage in THAT regard.  Its more a combination of cumbersome ui navigation and clumsy data management options.  I kinda like browsing the estore now, but there should really be more obvious ways to look for what suits a person.  Demos need a persistent category on the storefront.  They also need to start talking to non gaming companies about getting the equivalent of apps for things like youtube/amazon/facebook/lifestylesoftwarez.

But most of all they need to hammer the tap off the keg already.  When something is ready it should go up at the creator's discretion.  I know they want to prepare promotional material but Nintendo can save that for bigger stuff and not every little thing.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on October 23, 2011, 02:20:19 PM
the app store is a mess navigate, but nintendo's online store is immeasurably worse in almost every area.  and it's more nintendo's entire stance on online.  It'm still amazed that Nintendo doesn't have an account system. 

There are four separate nintendo hardware with access to the online store, each use nintendo points as currency, and each use a separate pool of points.  it doesn't seem that bad until you realize you can't make exact purchases and nintendo has irregular pricing.  you can buy points for $5 or $10.  Games on the shop cost like $3, $6, on the Wii some are $12.  You're always in a situation where you spend more on a game and are left with points.  I can't tell if that's just baffling design or a really cheap and tacky way for Nintendo rip people off.  and I don't think nintendo's store ever has sales. XBL, PSN, App store, Steam, and even Origin have sales.  Nintendo just dumps out software on its wares and forgets about them.

so navigation is hardly the only problem.  it's troublesome to buy games, there's no reason to visit the store, and there is hardly value in purchasing a game when it's locked to that singular hardware.

 
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 23, 2011, 03:58:11 PM
I'm not saying the dsi/eshop store has better content at all.  I'm well aware of the sea of shit.  I'm saying that I doubt a perceived lack of quality is a primary problem with the platform's adoption.  Its more like a lack of highlighting the store within the home screen os in addition to all the other problems aforementioned by me.

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on October 26, 2011, 06:27:46 AM
http://www.next-gen.biz/news/nikkei-nintendo-post-%C2%A5100-billion-loss (http://www.next-gen.biz/news/nikkei-nintendo-post-%C2%A5100-billion-loss)

Quote
According to Japan's Nikkei, Nintendo is to reveal a pre-tax loss of Ą100 billion (Ł821 million) when it reports its half-yearly financial results tomorrow.

The newspaper claims that the loss - which will almost double the Ą55 billion (Ł451 million) loss predicted by Nintendo - will be largely due to exchange rates. The strength of the Yen against the Euro is expected to account for a loss of Ą40 billion (Ł328 million).

Should Nikkei's claim be true it would mean Nintendo has sustained a loss of Ą74.5 billion (Ł611 million) in the last three months alone. Its financial results for the first quarter of its financial year, released in July, showed a loss of just Ą25.5 billion.

hmm,$1 billion+ loss in 6 months

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: maxy on October 26, 2011, 07:03:32 AM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/26/us-nintendo-idUSTRE79P0X420111026 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/26/us-nintendo-idUSTRE79P0X420111026)

Quote
(Reuters) - Nintendo Co is expected to post a recurring loss of about 100 billion yen ($1.32 billion) in the first half ending on September 30, much worse than the 55 billion loss the company has forecast, the Nikkei business daily said on Wednesday.

Shares of the Japanese games maker tumbled as much as 7.5 percent after the news, to 10,800 yen.

Nintendo, which dominated the games industry for years with its DS handheld game machines and Wii home consoles, has struggled to win popularity for its new generation 3DS gadget, as casual gamers turn to smartphones and tablets from Apple Inc and others.

Nintendo, like many Japanese firms, is also facing a massive hit from the strong yen.

The Nikkei said in its online edition the company had incurred 40 billion yen in foreign exchange losses, mostly against the euro, and would likely also post a first half net loss greater than the 35 billion yen it has projected.

A spokesman for Nintendo declined to comment on the report. The company is due to announce its July-September earnings on Thursday.

Nintendo, which makes 80 percent of its sales overseas, is facing a slump in the value of its cash deposits and accounts receivable in foreign currencies as the yen rises, the Nikkei said.

The games giant behind the Super Mario franchise slashed its full-year operating profit forecast in July to a 27-year low of 35 billion yen, as it cut the price of the 3DS by about one-third to try to boost weak sales.

($1 = 75.770 Japanese Yen)

Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: chronovore on October 26, 2011, 11:02:10 AM
The high yen is screwing a lot of people over pretty badly right now.  I expect dcharlie to be broke and pantsless by Easter at this rate.

I had him pantsless a couple weeks ago. He said he prefers it that way.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on October 26, 2011, 04:18:46 PM
hmm,$1 billion+ loss in 6 months

Nintendo copying Sony for a change.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on October 26, 2011, 05:24:12 PM
Hope that stupid Kirby Wii game was worth it.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Mr. Gundam on October 26, 2011, 05:31:52 PM
The high yen is screwing a lot of people over pretty badly right now.  I expect dcharlie to be broke and pantsless by Easter at this rate.

The yen exchange rate is insane. I remember it being 117 yen to $1 back in 2006. Even last year it was better at 87 yen to $1.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Oblivion on October 26, 2011, 06:10:20 PM
Also, Super Mario 3D Land got an 8 from Edge.

Knew it was gonna underwhelm.  :violin
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on October 26, 2011, 06:53:11 PM
You might wanna leave the trolling schtick to the pros Ob Liv.

They also gave DKCR and NSMBW 7s.  I really like those games.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Shaka Khan on October 26, 2011, 07:17:14 PM
Something something Wii Music low standards something.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: tiesto on October 27, 2011, 08:52:39 AM
Why is the yen so high compared to the US? I was under the impression that Japan got hit really hard by the recession too and their debt is even higher than the US... not to mention the country's serious demographic issues. I don't know shit about economics though.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on October 27, 2011, 09:51:22 AM
And the swiss frank, but thats not really on topic.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: T-Short on October 27, 2011, 12:19:05 PM
I may still be sans pants in Easter though...

(http://i.imgur.com/XpXxq.jpg)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on October 28, 2011, 02:09:44 AM
DLC, demos, and buying content from PC is coming to the 3DS.  With this Nintendo boldly moves from 2000 to 2005.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450016

(I'm actually trying to be positive.  If there's an actual account system in place, I might buy something from 3DSware.)
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 01, 2011, 11:09:06 AM
Kid Icarus, Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, Luigis Mansion 2 delayed to 2012.

I dunno if and how this is news, but I read it today.

Sound like typical Nintendo shit.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: cool breeze on November 02, 2011, 11:58:03 AM
Resident Evil Revelations going to cost $50 in the US (compared to the standard, already overpriced cost of $40). 

It is using the larger 4gig 3DS cart, but still, when people aren't buying 3DS games, maybe raising prices isn't the best idea.
Title: Re: is the 3DS actually selling well or what
Post by: Trent Dole on November 02, 2011, 01:08:06 PM
4 gig? That's like, more than half the size available on a DVD. And since DVD games sell for $100...wait.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 03, 2011, 12:06:54 AM
That shit may fly in japan, but they're sabatoging it with such a mindboggingly unrealistic asking price.  Doesn't bode well for Vita software pricing from Capcom either /concerntroll
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Joe Molotov on November 03, 2011, 12:10:01 AM
$50 for 3DS games  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :tbslol :tbslol


:teehee
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 03, 2011, 01:16:43 AM
$50 for 3DS games isn't Hollywood Gaming, it's Wall Street Gaming
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 03, 2011, 02:01:42 AM
Firing up CAG price tracker. We'll see how long that lasts

$50 for a 3DS game...jeezus :lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 03, 2011, 03:12:27 AM
two questions:

1. when does animal crossing come out? yes i am a homo

2. if i get a flash card to pirate ds games i missed out on with a 3ds, what happens
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 03, 2011, 03:21:35 AM
so in order to play pirated ds games with an r4 i need to either not update my 3ds (very likely since it's a nintendo machine unless games require certain firmwares) or buy a dsi AND a 3ds.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 03, 2011, 03:29:39 AM
depending on price, games I may pirate:

- the world ends with you
- okamiden

games i won't pirate:

- radiant historia
- etrian odyssey 3

i'm deffo gonna pirate them layton games. if i like em, i'll get the 3ds one. already own dragon quest VI
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 03, 2011, 04:21:45 AM
Games for the DS have been 45/50 euro here for ages.

Get over it Americuns.

You're stupid in the first place just to get a 3DS.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 03, 2011, 04:29:02 AM
it is pretty stupid to get a system that has good games coming out, i agree.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 03, 2011, 04:30:54 AM
Well apparently you can't afford them since you're planning to steal them.

Like buying a car but not having money for the gas. What's the point?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 03, 2011, 04:35:57 AM
I don't plan on buying a 3ds any time soon. I was just inquiring. I also fully plan on buying 3ds games, I was asking about pirating ds games that are old, old, old and the publisher won't see much money from me to begin with.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 03, 2011, 04:41:45 AM
Does it matter how much money if any the publisher will see from you? No.

Buying second hand goods is an entirely normal thing, you buy someone's stuff. That person sells his belongings so he can use the money to buy other goods, maybe food.  You are breaking this cycle by stealing.

Would you steal a car just because you couldn't afford a new one and your justification was that GM or Ford wouldn't get any pennies if you bought it second hand anyway? That's not a good argument.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 03, 2011, 04:43:54 AM
jesus christ
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 03, 2011, 04:45:46 AM
I know you don't like to think about these things, but I also know you are a moral person, so maybe you should.

Living within your means is not easy.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: maxy on November 03, 2011, 05:07:31 AM
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Resident Evil Revelations going to cost $50 in the US (compared to the standard, already overpriced cost of $40).

Gloomy future for dedicated handhelds in the West.

"It will sell like shit anyway so why not charge $10 more....$$$ :drool"


Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on November 05, 2011, 12:22:47 AM
...so apparently there's dumps of a few 3DS games out there but no flash cards can play them yet ???
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 05, 2011, 03:03:07 PM
See, that is why I think DCharlie is crazy, 2/3 of those things NEVER HAPPENED.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 05, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
since the dollar is a worthless piece of shit these days, i've decided to start using the 'daytona' as a form of currency.

resident evil is 5 daytonas, which i don't need to tell you is a bit crazy

this is an excellent idea - when establishing a new currency it is important to tie it to something of intrinsic, external, and objective value. not like that fiat currency Square keeps churning out
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 06, 2011, 05:30:06 PM
since the dollar is a worthless piece of shit these days, i've decided to start using the 'daytona' as a form of currency.

resident evil is 5 daytonas, which i don't need to tell you is a bit crazy

this is an excellent idea - when establishing a new currency it is important to tie it to something of intrinsic, external, and objective value. not like that fiat currency Square keeps churning out

what is the current bitcoin-to-daytona exchange rate; i.e. how many grams of meth can i get for a daytona
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 06, 2011, 07:06:26 PM
DCharlie, substantiate your claims.  Like, its the internet, you can link something somewhere.  Otherwise this is more geezer rambling.  I'm not partial to that.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 06, 2011, 07:27:02 PM
since the dollar is a worthless piece of shit these days, i've decided to start using the 'daytona' as a form of currency.

resident evil is 5 daytonas, which i don't need to tell you is a bit crazy

this is an excellent idea - when establishing a new currency it is important to tie it to something of intrinsic, external, and objective value. not like that fiat currency Square keeps churning out

what is the current bitcoin-to-daytona exchange rate; i.e. how many grams of meth can i get for a daytona

Prole diagnosed with terminal cancer, reverse engineers Daytona USA keygen, sells keys on NeoGAF to support his family. Coming this Fall to AMC: ROLLING START
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Damian79 on November 06, 2011, 11:38:44 PM
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See, that is why I think DCharlie is crazy, 2/3 of those things NEVER HAPPENED.

every single thing i posted happened. Take it to the bank (unless you are talking about the "capcom are amazing" and testicle comment?)

The exclusivity deals happened
Early price cut dictated by capcom insistance on a user base level for MH4
Premium of $10 (?) or 1000+ yen in Japan - already there
Get out clause in exclusivity contract based on installed base - yup. What do you think happened to the PS3 version of MH3 and why ?

Capcom are actually pushing Nintendo into a situation where they might not fail - they'd have happily sailed along with the $250 3DS. I wish Capcom hadn't bothered. Let HMS Stinkyshitflaps sink!

There were never any contracts with Sony they were always free to do what they want with that franchise.

The userbase level is probably something ALL devs asked for.

I dont get why the premium is a big deal, it is easy to see that RE has more work done on it than any other 3ds game and 4gb carts would cost like $5.

What clause, there was never any contract.  They have stated the more powerful vita would have costed more to make as the reason for the move.  I read that in an interview somewhere but i cant find it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on November 07, 2011, 12:35:42 AM
I don't doubt there's a lot of truth to that, but there was more than MonHun pushing a global price drop.  Nintendo actually likes to sell their own games too, and have panicking iDevice-obsessed investors to placate - they weren't going to do that at the sluggish hardware sales rate the 3DS was oozing along at.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Damian79 on November 07, 2011, 02:10:53 AM
Thats true.  I really dont know why they did a 3ds version instead of a PSP version.  I guess the fact that the psp isnt a big deal outside japan is an issue?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 08, 2011, 11:40:26 AM
PSP is stelling ok in Europe I think according to those latest numbers.

Games don't sell in Europe though.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 09, 2011, 11:10:18 AM
i'm not a sales guy but i know this thread has frequent sales data and i tought you guys would appreciate

seems super mario 3D land sold 343,492 Unit
and 3DS has sold 145,271 unit

http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111108015/

good? bad?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2011, 11:18:04 AM
i'm not a sales guy but i know this thread has frequent sales data and i tought you guys would appreciate

seems super mario 3D land sold 343,492 Unit
and 3DS has sold 145,271 unit

http://www.4gamer.net/games/117/G011794/20111108015/

good? bad?

Not exactly comparable, but New Super Mario Bros. DS debuted with 900k.

Edit: Super Mario Galaxy debuted with 260k.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 09, 2011, 01:13:01 PM
The 3DS sold twice as much as all the other consoles combined so, yeah, I'd say that's pretty good.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: maxy on November 10, 2011, 04:17:22 AM
Nintendo seems to be fine in Japan,future is bright.


US,not so bright
http://blog.flurry.com/bid/77424/Is-it-Game-Over-for-Nintendo-DS-and-Sony-PSP (http://blog.flurry.com/bid/77424/Is-it-Game-Over-for-Nintendo-DS-and-Sony-PSP)

(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a278/Rubxqub/Chart_USportableGameRevenue_MarketShare_2009-2011-resized-600.png)

Quote
The chart displays the share of U.S. revenue generated for portable games from 2009 to 2011. Note that we project November and December for 2011, based on their ratio to the first 10 months of the year, as observed in 2009 and 2010. Starting on the left, for 2009, we calculate $2.7 billion in total U.S. portable game revenue. For 2010 and 2011, we estimate $2.5 billion and $3.3 billion, respectively.

The most striking trend is that iOS and Android games have tripled their market share from roughly 20% in 2009 to nearly 60% in just two years. Simultaneously, Nintendo, the once dominant player, has been crushed down to owning about one-third of market in 2011, from having controlled more than two-thirds in 2009. Combined, iOS and Android game revenue delivered $500 million, $800 million and $1.9 billion over 2009, 2010 and 2011, respectively.

As reported by Flurry earlier this year, the freemium game model is revolutionizing and expanding revenue on mobile devices. And just as smartphone game revenue has climbed aggressively, Nintendo DS and Sony PSP revenue has dropped precipitously. Over the last three years, Nintendo and Sony posted a combined $2.2 billion, $1.6 billion and $1.4 billion for 2009, 2010 and 2011, respectively.

Within the portable category, an abundance of digitally distributed free and $0.99 games, available on hardware, that is both comparably priced and more powerful than traditional portable game devices, better appeals to many consumers. As a result, the days of paying $25, or more, for a cartridge at a retail store may soon end. Further, the installed base of iOS and Android devices has not only reached critical mass, but also continues to grow at unprecedented rates. In their latest public statements regarding installed base, Apple and Google reported a total of 250 million iOS devices and 190 million Android devices activated, respectively.

Due in part to its demise in the portable game category, Nintendo is facing its first fiscal year loss since the company began reporting profits in 1981. Combined with slumping Wii sales, Nintendo is indeed struggling, even with its powerful stable of original IP led by Mario Brothers, and despite the fact that the exchange rate between the Japanese Yen and U.S. dollar is currently in its favor.

Equally concerning for Nintendo is that the battle for video game dominance is entering the living room, with entries by both Apple and Google into the TV category. Ostensibly, this new class of hardware will create a new platform upon which the digital distribution model of apps will be overlaid. Now, in addition to tablet form-factor competition, the console game industry, which currently pits Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo against each other, will additionally face competition from Apple and Google TV initiatives. Beyond 2011, if Nintendo continues to face financial hardship, it may be forced to consider difficult choices such as divesting its hardware business and distributing its content, for the first time, across non-proprietary platforms.

doomed or not,that is the question

$2 billion spent on ios&android games...big business
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 10, 2011, 04:20:24 AM
Lol I bet it's going that way in Europe too.

Basicly handhelds will be for weaboos only in the future.

:bow Phone gaming :bow2

:bow I just bought a cool Diablo clone for 2 euro, 10+ hours of gameplay :bow2

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 10, 2011, 04:36:11 AM
Come at me bro  :punch

You just mad cause weaboo shit is losing out.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 10, 2011, 04:52:03 AM
I wish you would take me seriously for once :lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 10, 2011, 04:59:14 AM
Which picture is that?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 10, 2011, 05:02:14 AM
Oh that  :lol

Think the only reason I didn't get an HR speech is cause I already resigned.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: maxy on November 10, 2011, 05:03:08 AM
nvm
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: maxy on November 10, 2011, 05:10:16 AM
i was referring to the Kosma picture,not some lame statistics analysis
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 10, 2011, 05:28:33 AM
There's no 3DS on the chart?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: maxy on November 10, 2011, 05:40:10 AM
do i have to draw everything to you?
you answered that already

Article title tells a lot, numbers are not important

One question,do you really read all that stuff?
I would go insane
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 10, 2011, 05:49:47 AM
YOU MEAN THAT THE 3DS RELEASING DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IOS SELLING MORE THAN NINTENDO AND SONY ???

Simple. Math.

DS has less big games for it this year because pubs are gearing for 3ds. ds is on its last legs, mostly occupied by niche games. psp has been on its last legs in the west for ages now. Couple this with the release of the 3ds -- new systems rarely ever bring over a huge audience immediately -- and you have less sales.

That chart is skewed because OF COURSE ios is going to sell more in a year when ds games have less frequency and 3ds games aren't hot enough to incite interest (of course, this is without taking into account that fuckin mario just came out for 3ds).

Let it sink in that I -- as in, ME -- had to make this apparent to you. Then hold yourself in the shower in fetal position and suck your thumb. We're done here.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 10, 2011, 06:31:53 AM
http://www.flurry.com/about-us/index.html

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Flurry increases the size and value of mobile application audiences, already helping more than 50,000 companies in over 100,000 applications across iOS, Android, BlackBerry and Windows Phone platforms. Flurry has built the world's leading mobile application analytics and data-powered advertising platform, with more ground breaking services in development.

Of course they're going to say that mobile revenue is increasing.

Quote
Flurry Analytics places a lightweight agent into an application, so that performance data are tracked, logged and reported back for analysis. This information is confidential and available only to the developer to analyze in aggregate. Individual user data is not identifiable. Developers are provided a wealth of metrics around usage behavior, any custom event they choose to track and technical information about the device, firmware version, carrier and more.

And of course they push how big mobile gaming is

http://blog.flurry.com/bid/57219/Mobile-Social-Gamers-The-New-Mass-Market-Powerhouse

Quote
The Consumer behind Social Games: a Marketer’s Dream Target Audience

Just trying to peddle their wares by promoting that console gaming is dying and mobile gaming isn't, and it's full of wealthy females to take money from.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 10, 2011, 09:10:32 AM
The Holiday season will probably be really big for Nintendo, as it always is, whereas it probably won't have as big an impact for iOS.

Am I doing it right, Oscar?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 10, 2011, 09:27:08 AM
I got nervous! I didn't know what I was saying!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 10, 2011, 09:32:05 AM
Sorry, Coach. :(
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on November 10, 2011, 09:43:24 AM
Better sit this one out Rumbler.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Great Rumbler on November 10, 2011, 09:50:34 AM
*training montage*
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: maxy on November 10, 2011, 10:22:19 AM
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are they though? I mean - specifically gearing for 3DS?

I've heard that Rockstar is making GTA for 3DS and Wii U.I'm not a reliable source though.

Does that count?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on November 10, 2011, 03:18:23 PM
I heard you liek Mudkips. :P
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 10, 2011, 05:54:07 PM
Holiday season will be huge for iOS - people getting iPads+Touch as gifts, and probably getting iTunes cards too. Before lunch they could have spend $20 on the store.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on November 10, 2011, 06:26:11 PM
Super Mario 3D Land IN 3-D looks kinda cool. A bit on the short side and not worth buying a console for, but one more thing to nudge folks towards this thing. I'm at least waiting until they release one with the second circle pad and a decent battery life.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: tiesto on November 10, 2011, 07:48:05 PM
Come at me bro  :punch

You just mad cause weaboo shit is losing out.

Yup, sucks to see good, mechanically complex and fun games lose out to fart apps, inaccurate touchscreen-controlled ripoffs of flash games, and busted physics simulators like Angry Birds.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 10, 2011, 08:21:47 PM
Super Mario 3d Land is 3d Mario for beginners during the first run.  Beating that gives you a remixed single player of the 8 worlds with a better challenge.  Its gonna hafta wait because I just recently had to pay an obscene amount for a USED Metroid Trilogy and I think I only have enough budget left for Zelda.  Prime 1 is worth it though.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on November 10, 2011, 08:57:58 PM
Super Mario 3D Land IN 3-D looks kinda cool. A bit on the short side and not worth buying a console for, but one more thing to nudge folks towards this thing. I'm at least waiting until they release one with the second circle pad and a decent battery life.

it's not nearly as short as it initially appears.
Ah right, I'm forgetting about all the post game shit.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 10, 2011, 09:24:20 PM
I'm pretty hyped about Mario. I was unfortunate enough to skip the Wii games and only sample them at family gatherings. So it'd be nice to finally have a solid Mario title on the go. I don't mind easy portable games these days; mobile gaming has softened me.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on November 11, 2011, 02:47:40 AM
Dude, you need to play the Galaxies. They're amazing.
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 11, 2011, 04:45:57 AM
Oh, I played them. Just not finish and in optimal conditions. I blame my lack of enthusiasm and commitment on the Wii's lack of HD support. Imma play them all on Dolphin in the future.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on November 13, 2011, 01:21:35 PM
Wow, Super Mario 3D Land really is  :o :hyper  :o :hyper GOOD!  Makes fantastic use of 3D and is a blast to play.  This should have been a launch title for the system.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: MCD on November 13, 2011, 02:16:21 PM
Oh, I played them. Just not finish and in optimal conditions. I blame my lack of enthusiasm and commitment on the Wii's lack of HD support. Imma play them all on Dolphin in the future.
I hate how Galaxy 1 framerate dips to 40fps in the hub world but other than that, it's a pretty.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 15, 2011, 05:36:55 AM
http://hardcoregaming101.net/shinobi/shinobi7.htm
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 15, 2011, 06:29:21 AM
I think it got a stealth release in Australia a few weeks ago
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 16, 2011, 02:19:20 AM
playing mario 3ds and not thinking about the analog slider made me think about just how bad the PSP one is.  I'd take analog stick any day but after 4 or 5 revisions, I don't get why Sony never made the nub adequate.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2011, 10:37:52 AM
http://hardcoregaming101.net/shinobi/shinobi7.htm

omg
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Don Flamenco on November 23, 2011, 11:01:58 AM
http://hardcoregaming101.net/shinobi/shinobi7.htm


will buy whenever i get a 3ds on the cheap
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on November 23, 2011, 12:59:45 PM
Agreed.  Super Mario 3D Land is the 3DS' much-needed "system seller."  A+ game all the way...real talk.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 01:26:19 PM
more like c+ game

and the 3d is useless, wtf brochachos
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2011, 02:25:34 PM
I like Mario 3DS a lot.  Very fun game that mixes ideas from all the others.  Kind of like Katamari Forever, best of.

But I agree with the above statement on the 3d.  I don't understand everyone saying "The 3d is finally good in this game!".  The 3d looks the same as it does in every other 3ds game and doesn't add a whole lot.  It's kind of a neat look, but if I switch it off and go 2d it looks just as good.  Could take it or leave it.  The only part where it's stuck out to me has been when standing vertically high and jumping down. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 02:45:54 PM
the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on November 23, 2011, 02:47:15 PM
the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN

The level length is about the same as the old 2D Mario titles...perfect for a portable game.  Made getting all the stars and hitting the top of the flag pole not feel like a chore if I needed to replay a level.

Things get more challenging when you clear what is essentially the easy mode and get to the real game in the special stages.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2011, 02:55:48 PM
the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN

TBH I always found that annoying about SMB3. It's why I like SMW more, longer levels.

But short levels suit the handheld more.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 03:07:53 PM
i'm not in the business of validating nintendo or adjusting my cognitive biases to accomdate their shitty design imperatives. smb3 at least had twice (or more) levels than sml3d, and it had actual CHALLENGE and SECRETS and shit. sml3d is short and bland, like it wanted to be an iphone mario game, or rather like nintendo decided to duplicate the trivial levels and challenges of the average phone/tablet game. that's the theme of this new phone-oriented handheld game market: PERFUNCTORY GAMING. fuck that.

and who cares about the unlockable content? if half the game is crap, it's still a dubious game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2011, 03:18:32 PM
Crunchy bringing the hate. :lol

If he hates it, I like it, so I assume 3D Land is GOTY by the amount of vile he's spewing.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2011, 03:19:49 PM
the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN

sounds like they took a page from smb3

pass
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2011, 03:21:19 PM
TBH I always found that annoying about SMB3. It's why I like SMW more, longer levels.

But short levels suit the handheld more.

You know what I found annoying about Super Mario Bros. 3? That it sucked.

Goddamn, I love this thread, it's perfect. I am in TEARS of JOY.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2011, 03:34:31 PM
TBH I always found that annoying about SMB3. It's why I like SMW more, longer levels.

But short levels suit the handheld more.

You know what I found annoying about Super Mario Bros. 3? That it sucked.

SMW was much better but 3 was fine for what it was. Sort of amazed they were able to coax that much out of the hardware.

I know you might be trollin' but I wanted to get my thoughts out. ::)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2011, 03:47:48 PM
The short levels are an interesting dilemma.

On one hand, they lack that memorable quality that the 3-5 min Galaxy stages have.  Where each level was an actual LEVEL with its own set of varied challenges across an interesting design.  I can't remember a single stage in Mario 3DS beyond "yeah, there was this gummi level, and a few airships, etc...".

Otoh, the short design makes the stages a great pick up and play FUN and makes getting all 3 coins enjoyable since replaying a level over and over again is no big thang.  It's always fun and the levels mix it up enough that doing 1 min here, 1 min there, gives constant variety.  However, the game length is also pretty short because of this.  I'm guessing you could get through all 8 worlds 1st run with all coins in about 4-5 hours no problem. 

But I know I like it more than NSMB Wii.  I think I'm bored of 2d-only Mario at this point.  Like how they mix up the platforming in Galaxy and 3DS.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 23, 2011, 03:51:10 PM
Otoh, the short design makes the stages a great pick up and play FUN and makes getting all 3 coins enjoyable since replaying a level over and over again is no big thang.  It's always fun and the levels mix it up enough that doing 1 min here, 1 min there, gives constant variety.  However, the game length is also pretty short because of this.  I'm guessing you could get through all 8 worlds 1st run with all coins in about 4-5 hours no problem. 

Yet he bashes iOS games. :dizzy
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 04:20:16 PM
i got through the game in under 2 hours.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2011, 04:22:41 PM
2 US or 2 JP?

Even though it failed as a sequel I think I like 2 JP more.

3 has a lot of good game design ideas, I thought. It's a very solid game, nostalgia or no.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 04:24:50 PM
3 had good ideas, for sure, and it was shockingly impressive and deep for an 8-bit game. however, this isn't 1990 any more
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 23, 2011, 04:29:50 PM
3 had good ideas, for sure, and it was shockingly impressive and deep for an 8-bit game. however, this isn't 1990 any more

Crunch and I share the exact same opinion of a game.  :omg Is this real life?

2 US, and I played 2 JP in the SNES collection and loved it cause it was more like the first.

That's the best way to play it. You get a better continue system and the graphics are far, far better (2 JP's graphics are worse than the originals, I think.)

Although playing the non-SNES version puts hair on your chest. I've gotten to 8-3 a couple times, still have to beat it. (VC/NES version.)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 23, 2011, 04:55:50 PM
short stage you guys say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtzExWdjTKA
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 23, 2011, 05:02:04 PM
i got through the game in under 2 hours.

so you still had fifteen minutes of battery life left!

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 23, 2011, 05:36:38 PM
Cut the Rope > Super Mario Land 3d

2 dollars and months worth of content

versus 40 dollars and 2 hours worth of content

your choice
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on November 23, 2011, 05:40:22 PM
i got through the game in under 2 hours.

You got all the coins on the stages and then completed all the special stages in under two hours?   ???

Playing through the game without getting to the special stages is like playing through Castlevania SOTN without unlocking the upside-down castle and saying it's completed.

short stage you guys say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtzExWdjTKA

This can't be done until you've unlocked Luigi first...which means getting to the special stages...which means some time spent playing through everything.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 23, 2011, 05:52:51 PM
The short levels are an interesting dilemma.

On one hand, they lack that memorable quality that the 3-5 min Galaxy stages have.  Where each level was an actual LEVEL with its own set of varied challenges across an interesting design.  I can't remember a single stage in Mario 3DS beyond "yeah, there was this gummi level, and a few airships, etc...".

Otoh, the short design makes the stages a great pick up and play FUN and makes getting all 3 coins enjoyable since replaying a level over and over again is no big thang.  It's always fun and the levels mix it up enough that doing 1 min here, 1 min there, gives constant variety.  However, the game length is also pretty short because of this.  I'm guessing you could get through all 8 worlds 1st run with all coins in about 4-5 hours no problem. 

But I know I like it more than NSMB Wii.  I think I'm bored of 2d-only Mario at this point.  Like how they mix up the platforming in Galaxy and 3DS.

I'm okay with the short levels, but I'm not okay with there only being 4-5 per world. That's pathetic. Also, the coins could have made for a decent challenge (I'd rather just have well designed levels then a coin hunt), but they are almost always staring you in the face. I missed 4 or 5 in my first run through.

The special worlds are better, but I'm up to Special World 4 and I have missed 1 coin (in the annoying level with the little green platforms that move forward or back based on where you are standing).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 23, 2011, 05:58:36 PM
i got through the game in under 2 hours.

You got all the coins on the stages and then completed all the special stages in under two hours?   ???

Playing through the game without getting to the special stages is like playing through Castlevania SOTN without unlocking the upside-down castle and saying it's completed.

short stage you guys say?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtzExWdjTKA

This can't be done until you've unlocked Luigi first...which means getting to the special stages...which means some time spent playing through everything.

castlevania, on the other hand, had gameplay that made the backtracking worthwhile. smbl3d? i'll just replay mario galaxy 2.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 23, 2011, 06:59:32 PM
Just how different is this "remixed" post-game content? The game is nice, but I started playing yesterday and now I'm at World 7, all coins collected, all flagpoles perfected.

What I've played up to this point has been a good platter of bite-sized appetizers, but if the post-game content doesn't feel different, challenging or satisfying enough, I'm rating this eatery a C+. :tophat
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 23, 2011, 08:11:39 PM
I feel like it's pretty different. Many of the levels seem to be totally new.

I didn't realize that I was supposed to give a shit about topping the flagpole when I had 100+ lives. Doesn't seem to be an indicator for what levels I've done it on, unless I run through the level again.
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 23, 2011, 08:28:32 PM
Actually, there is an indicator; in level select, you'll notice a gold flag icon in the top screen, bottom right side, when standing on any perfected levels.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 23, 2011, 08:57:12 PM
What is the point of topping flagpoles?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: demi on November 23, 2011, 10:56:34 PM
What is the point of topping flagpoles?

:drool
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 24, 2011, 06:17:58 AM
the levels last less than a minute! how is that in any way GOOD? just when a level STARTS to get a bit interesting, BOOM. jump on dat flagpole, ya adhd MORAN

sounds like they took a page from smb3

pass

you say that like you even had a choice

you're too poor to afford a 3ds

saved by poverty
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 24, 2011, 06:34:36 AM
i got through the game in under 2 hours.

That's pretty bad. D:

NSMBW took 6 hours for me to beat, without getting the secret world and all the coin challenges.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 24, 2011, 09:24:25 AM
I'm up to special world 6 and I think 90% of the levels are new. It still isn't super hard, I haven't missed more than 5 coins, but it is fun and challenging.

Unfortunately, the hardest levels are hard due to the camera or spamming shit all over the screen.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 24, 2011, 09:25:37 AM
What is the point of topping flagpoles?

topping all the flagpoles, getting all the coins, and beating every level with both characters unlocks the last challenge level.  it's all basically an inane requirement for about 2 or 3 minutes of extra content.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 24, 2011, 01:26:37 PM
lol, nintendo.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 24, 2011, 11:09:17 PM
Why does a game have to be HARD to be enjoyed?

I am slow.  I am only on world 5 of my first run (getting all coins as I go).  I have like 65 lives.  The game is not particularly hard.  Still, the game has been loads of fun.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 25, 2011, 12:59:51 AM
Eh, I think there's a big jump between what's in the first half of this game and Kirby.  Kirby bores me to tears, in Mario I have to actively TRY.  Sure I don't lose many lives, but it makes me feel like I'm not losing lives because I AM AN AWESOME MARIO PLAYER.  There are challenges and jumps and I continually overcome them and it is satisfying.  It's just not particularly hard.  I don't think it's baby easy either.  Just like standard Mario difficulty post SNES.  Kirby is baby difficulty and I never feel like I'm accomplishing anything when I beat a level.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 25, 2011, 05:00:46 AM
you know i understand very well what segata means,it's pretty much how i feel about both version of NSMB and super mario galaxy 2
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 25, 2011, 05:07:19 AM
The biggest problem is not the number of levels or worlds. It's the length of levels, especially when there's so much variety in the first 8 worlds, with few ideas, obstacles, etc being recycled. I mean even if they doubled the number of worlds, I'll still feel disappointed that cool looking level x - x ended abruptly when it was just getting interesting. And by interesting, I also thinking of challenge. So yeah, level length and challenge is a major issue regardless of how many special worlds there are.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 25, 2011, 07:17:37 AM
well, it does recycle ideas from the galaxy games, like that one music beat/timing stage.  And then that one stage is used as three different levels in the 3DS game (once as regular, twice as special).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 25, 2011, 07:55:35 AM
I've only played a little of the Galaxy games and NSMBWii. So most of this content is new to me :-[

But the content recycling I was referring to, is the one within this game itself. They've done a nice job at varying the themes, ideas, and obstacles for the most part. And as Enl previously said, they scored points for not confining themselves to one theme per-world. Though my complaint about level length still stands; I've yet to play one satisfying level content-wise, it's all been a tease up to this point.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on November 25, 2011, 08:04:13 AM
I've only played a little of the Galaxy games and NSMBWii. So most of this content is new to me :-[

Same here.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 25, 2011, 08:08:39 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the jumping momentum is all fucked? Mario seems to hit a midair wall if you haven't run for 30 feet before a jump. Can get really annoying when the levels actually stat to get Hardin the special zone. Camera can start to be really annoying too,
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 25, 2011, 11:38:19 AM
In the earlier stages, apparently the game was even more "four-directional", a la Bug on the Saturn.

So I wasn't imagining that. I remember people pretty bummed about the controls being 4 (are you sure it wasn't 8?) directional. Some of the usual suspects instantly starting defending it as well. I'm curious why someone thought it'd be a good idea in the first place, and how terrible it would actually play compared to how it does now.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 25, 2011, 12:05:46 PM
I think the game still locks you into the eight directions at times.  sometimes it feels full analog while others I can't make fine turns around an object.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 25, 2011, 12:18:36 PM
what's with the hate for nsmb wii? i thought it was great, the awful and poorly-integrated waggle bits aside
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 25, 2011, 12:23:09 PM
Everyone who matters likes the game, so beats me.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 25, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
is there hate for it? I remember everyone here liking it.  NSMB DS is the weak one.


well, it did lack any personality, like Mario 3DS, and had bad music.  but the gameplay was really fun and that's what matters.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 25, 2011, 12:46:25 PM
oh, oops. yeah. nsmb ds was crap. i'd kinda wiped it from my mind.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 25, 2011, 12:54:08 PM
what's with the hate for nsmb wii? i thought it was great, the awful and poorly-integrated waggle bits aside

it's so boring and bland,it feels like a super mario hack :yuck
there's nothing new super mario bros wii does that a replay of super mario world does not
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 25, 2011, 01:24:39 PM
what's with the hate for nsmb wii? i thought it was great, the awful and poorly-integrated waggle bits aside

it's so boring and bland,it feels like a super mario hack :yuck
there's nothing new super mario bros wii does that a replay of super mario world does not

Shut the fuck up, dingus.  I'm tired of your flavor of mongoloid contrarianism cum shameless piracy and tightassery.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 25, 2011, 01:27:19 PM
Everyone who matters likes the game, so beats me.

:smug
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Phoenix Dark on November 25, 2011, 01:30:37 PM
nsmb ds felt like a repetitive flash game
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 25, 2011, 02:21:51 PM
what's with the hate for nsmb wii? i thought it was great, the awful and poorly-integrated waggle bits aside

it's so boring and bland,it feels like a super mario hack :yuck
there's nothing new super mario bros wii does that a replay of super mario world does not

Shut the fuck up, dingus.  I'm tired of your flavor of mongoloid contrarianism cum shameless piracy and tightassery.

well, that saved me typing the same thing
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 25, 2011, 02:40:15 PM
if anything i don't get how people can dislike NSMB DS but like the wii one,for me they might as well be the same game so... *shrugs*

Quote
Shut the fuck up, dingus.  I'm tired of your flavor of mongoloid contrarianism cum shameless piracy and tightassery.

come at me bro :punch
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 25, 2011, 02:46:55 PM
Anyhow, back to Mario Land 3D:

When you complete the game 100%, you get 5 stars on your save. How do you get those 5 stars? by performing the following:
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Fifth Star         Have all stages cleared with both Mario and Luigi, and have gotten a Golden Flagpole on each
First Star         Defeat Bowser in World 8's second Castle
Fourth Star      Obtain all 285 Star Medals, not including the ones from Mystery Boxes
Glittering Stars      Never have the Super/Help Item Blocks appear: Never die five or more times in a row on any level.
Second Star      Clear all stages in the first 8 Worlds
Third Star         Defeat Bowser in World 8's second Castle again after defeating him in Special World 8's Castle

And this is how Nintendo is able to hook (exploit) their OCD'd fans. :lol

(But seriously, fuck the Glittering Star; I thought the only requirement was not to use the help block. I could have quit/reload had I known about this. /OCD)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 25, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
I'm excited to get this and Mario Kart in the next few days
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 25, 2011, 03:05:45 PM
When will MK7 be released?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 25, 2011, 04:27:47 PM
It's more like Super Mario Galaxy and NSMB DS had a baby and forced it to level sizes similar to SMB3.

My 3 least favorite main Mario games? triple pass.

You dislike SMG? Your taste is now suspect.

Yeah, I love NSMB Wii.  Best Mario in ages.  But the DS one, it's just a popcorn fart.  I give it a pass because it was the first kick at the can in a while, and it led to NSMB Wii, but it's really dickless.

Agreed.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
SMG > SMW2: YI > Sunshine > SMW > SMG2 > SMB1 > SMB2 usa > herpes > SMB3 > NSMB ds > SMB2j > AIDS > SM64 >
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2011, 05:21:24 PM
You know what? I'm going to have to put NSMB ds above SM64 as well. Plague or AIDS better than SM64? Seems so. Pick your poison. The fact I beat NSMB in one sitting soiled it for me, but thanks for reminding me of the fact that 64 is putrid feces in cartridge (or digital) format.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 25, 2011, 05:38:38 PM
SMG > SMW2: YI > Sunshine > SMW > SMG2 > SMB1 > SMB2 usa > SMB3 > SM64 > NSMB ds > SMB2j

I can't believe I agree with most of this. Well, the first half (although I haven't played Sunshine.) I would probably put NSMBW on par with SMG2, but it's a close call.

For the second half for me:

SMB3 > SM64 > SMB1 > SMB2j  > SMB2 USA > NSMB DS

SM64 isn't bad it's just almost completely contrary to everything Mario. I like exploration as much as anyone (again, I <3 World) but 64 took it way overboard.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: MCD on November 25, 2011, 05:43:27 PM
Super Mario 64 is the only good 3D Mario.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 25, 2011, 05:54:44 PM
SMB1 has (mostly) meaty levels and though some are repeated later on, the game itself has stood the annals of time.

SMB2 USA is fun, but not very Mario-ish.

SMB2 j sucks.

SMB3 is Mario bloat defined: quantity over quality, 1 minute levels with poorly thought out design sensibilities.

SMW is SMB3 but good. It's  a return to the more meaty levels of SMB1, but with more polish, variety, and substance. A true classic.

SMW2 takes it even further, and is the best 2d Mario game. It has the perfect balance of Mario "bloat". There's a lot of levels, but each one is unique, meaty, and full of surprises and content to last you a while and even tease your brain. Get everything in YI? Guess what? More game. Bow down.

SM64 is a return to SMB3 bloat. Oh great, this level takes me 1 minute to beat. Shit city.

Mario Sunshine is once again, another game that kinda has the Mario "bloat" formula down to a tee. While some levels suck, for the most part, what is there owns and owns hard. Blue coin challenges? Best damn platforming in the series bar none next to what SMG and YI has to offer. The different nozzles on the water pack changes the flow of the platforming and gives power ups an actual use beyond inane novelty's of 2d Mario of old.

NSMB ds. I beat this game in like one sitting on a road trip. Content sparse, and more easy than getting Tauntaun into your bed. Mediocrity incarnate.

SMG. This game makes me want to take my pants off and dance through the streets singing the praises of Nintendo while rubbing myself all over with hot butter.

SMG2 is that pretty girl who is cute, maybe even oinks when she laughs, but she doesn't stand up to that childhood crush you've got with her supple breasts and tender butt cheeks. In other words, SMG is a big hard dick waiting to be stroked and SMG2 is like...a flaccid 3-incher. I mean, it's a dick but it's not THE dick, ya know?

Bonus:

Wario Land - You know how sometimes you can feel that orgasm coming and you're all "this is so good I'm going to do it TWICE, I'm just in the mood for it". Wario Land is like that.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 25, 2011, 06:20:05 PM
mario 64 owns,kickass music,good use of what have become standard theme (you know the ice world,the desert world) and lot of stuff to find and see

and this fucking game here deserve more recognition from you morons! :maf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMJt5PP3kM
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 25, 2011, 08:09:53 PM
mario 64 owns,kickass music,good use of what have become standard theme (you know the ice world,the desert world) and lot of stuff to find and see

and this fucking game here deserve more recognition from you morons! :maf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXMJt5PP3kM

Easily my favorite portable Mario game (WL doesn't count.) Haven't played 3D Land though. :fbm

Also Himu SMB2j really isn't that bad. It absolutely fails as a sequel by basically recycling the first game, and it has worse graphics, but it's still very solid. A very good platformer.

if anything i don't get how people can dislike NSMB DS but like the wii one,for me they might as well be the same game so... *shrugs*

superficially they're very similar, much like a ball of rabbit shit and a ball of delicious chocolate

anyone with a shred of taste is able to rather easily distinguish the two, however

I was gonna post something like this.  :-\

Pick any random level, say 6-3, and compare them and it's really night and day. NSMBW has suuuuch good level design in general, and then there's World 9... add four player co-op and you got a very solid Mario game that can stand toe-to-toe with the best in the series.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2011, 12:56:16 AM
NSMB DS made you go back to old levels to get a tiny mushroom items to get coins and shortcuts from later levels.  Shit sucked.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 26, 2011, 01:04:25 AM
Second thread in a week where I need to murder some bros

SMB3 is fucking classic.  How anyone can say it's less than perfection is beyond me.  Airships man

SMB3 > SM1 > SMW > Galaxy 1 > Galaxy 2 > Sunshine > 3DS ~ Wii > SM2U/SM2j > SM64* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DS

*Not sure if I've ever even finished 64.  Didn't own a 64 when it came out and just played certain levels at a friends place.  Tried to play it on the DS but the controls were in anal rape ville.  Got it on Wiiware but never touched it.  Maybe one day I'll play through it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2011, 01:09:15 AM
apparently Mario Kart 3DS is supposed to be good.  the reviews say it's basically erasing the wii game. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 26, 2011, 01:11:09 AM
Mario Kart DS was pretty good, so it's not surprising.  It's only the console MKs that suck post-SNES.

Not going to buy it though.  Interest in MK is basically non-existent these days.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 26, 2011, 03:41:17 AM
Wait, Retro developed it?

That's...interesting.  American made Mario Kart; heh, never thought I'd see the day.  So no more FPS games from Retro? 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 26, 2011, 03:53:52 AM
I'm totally distinguished mentally-challenged for MK. I skipped the Wii game, but played the DS game for 3 years straight; 2nd & 3rd year was strictly local MP with 4 of my friends whenever I go back home for the weekend. It was probably my favorite multiplayer experience in the past 5 or 6 years. :uguu

Wait, Retro developed it?

I think Retro only developed the DKR course, and a few others, but that's about it, iirc.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: iconoclast on November 26, 2011, 04:36:49 AM
Super Mario 64 is the only good 3D Mario.

accurate
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 26, 2011, 07:00:28 AM
if anything i don't get how people can dislike NSMB DS but like the wii one,for me they might as well be the same game so... *shrugs*

superficially they're very similar, much like a ball of rabbit shit and a ball of delicious chocolate

anyone with a shred of taste is able to rather easily distinguish the two, however

Fucking seriously. I'm a huge Mario platformer taco, and at the time NSMB: DS came out, I was pretty stoked to try it out. Went to a friend's place who had the game, and I lost interest in it after the first level. It was like 'wtf is this shit?'. Even those game boy Mario games held my attention longer than that, and they were terrible. Afterwards, my friend offered to let me borrow the game. We haven't spoken since.

NSMBW obviously shares the same physics and graphics engine, but it is light years superior when it comes to level design and new items. Hell, I'd even be willing to go as far as saying it may have the best level design PERIOD for a 2D Mario.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 26, 2011, 09:17:48 AM
the propeller suit is horrible in that it let you save your ass when you are falling down a hole,it just makes thing easier and the penguin suit is just a slightly less horrible/more gimmick version of the turtle

and there are plenty of boring stages in NSMB wii,like that horrible raft stage where you sit on your ass,waiting for the raft to move

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXUG4AaS1T8

:yuck
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Raban on November 26, 2011, 10:27:21 AM
I'm totally distinguished mentally-challenged for MK. I skipped the Wii game, but played the DS game for 3 years straight; 2nd & 3rd year was strictly local MP with 4 of my friends whenever I go back home for the weekend. It was probably my favorite multiplayer experience in the past 5 or 6 years.

:rock Mario Kart DS

I find it a little strange that people are hating on SM64 in here. Maybe it's not the strongest Mario game, strictly speaking, but its throne on top of the 3D platforming genre is cemented, imo. I have never played a game where you have anywhere near as much agility as Mario does in SM64.

You can do a slide kick like motherfucking Richter in that game. 'Nuff said.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2011, 10:44:49 AM
I love both MK DS and MK Wii. :-\ MK Wii had some awesome new courses and the best online of any Nintendo game ever.

Also tricks and bikes. :rock
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 26, 2011, 10:46:27 AM
Mario Kart is one of those things where it's okay, but I've played so much better games I'd rather play something else. MK64 is great, though. Didn't like Mario Kart on snes. That game kinda sucked, as did the original F-Zero. Terrible controls. Meanwhile, I was playing Outrun on my Sega Genesis.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2011, 10:56:54 AM
Mario Kart DS is really good.  Mario Kart Wii turned it more into a party game and it was really boring.  Everything was slowed down, dumbed down, and wholly less skill based.  The problems with luck of the draw were worse than ever.

If the 3DS game truly goes back to what made the DS game good, I'd be down for it.  Mario Kart DS was pure arcade kart racing.  Video still make it look like the Wii version, with gimmicks like bikes/tricks are replaced with flying/underwater, and the same slowness was kept.  I'm still unsure about it because you know there will be a Wii U Mario Kart because Nintendo dumps out its franchises on each console with eerie efficiency.  Or I'll wait for good impressions.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2011, 11:10:25 AM
Mario Kart DS is really good.  Mario Kart Wii turned it more into a party game and it was really boring.  Everything was slowed down, dumbed down, and wholly less skill based.  The problems with luck of the draw were worse than ever.

If the 3DS game truly goes back to what made the DS game good, I'd be down for it.  Mario Kart DS was pure arcade kart racing.  Video still make it look like the Wii version, with gimmicks like bikes/tricks are replaced with flying/underwater, and the same slowness was kept.  I'm still unsure about it because you know there will be a Wii U Mario Kart because Nintendo dumps out its franchises on each console with eerie efficiency.  Or I'll wait for good impressions.

MK Wii isn't slow, the lanes are just wider because now there's 12 simultaneous players instead of 8. The rubberbanding was bad in single-player, but competitive wise it was all still gravy. Online was awesome. Bikes and tricks were cool. Don't get the hate.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Raban on November 26, 2011, 11:15:50 AM
I always wanted to try Mario Kart Wii since I love me la motocicletas, but too bad it means playing a Wii :yuck
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2011, 11:19:46 AM
well, MK Wii is certainly a thick brown liquid of some kind
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Raban on November 26, 2011, 11:24:05 AM
:lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: tiesto on November 26, 2011, 11:44:38 AM
Mario Kart DS is really good.  Mario Kart Wii turned it more into a party game and it was really boring.  Everything was slowed down, dumbed down, and wholly less skill based.  The problems with luck of the draw were worse than ever.

If the 3DS game truly goes back to what made the DS game good, I'd be down for it.  Mario Kart DS was pure arcade kart racing.  Video still make it look like the Wii version, with gimmicks like bikes/tricks are replaced with flying/underwater, and the same slowness was kept.  I'm still unsure about it because you know there will be a Wii U Mario Kart because Nintendo dumps out its franchises on each console with eerie efficiency.  Or I'll wait for good impressions.

MKDS is my favorite game in the series, didn't like the Wii one very much (it was really bad with the luck-based items, and it was entirely possible to go from 16th place to first with getting a few good items)... but the little I played of the 3DS one makes it seem like the DS one plus slightly gimmicky plane/underwater sections minus snaking.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2011, 12:25:52 PM
itt: magoose continues to display is shitawful taste

for me regarding mario games:

SMW2 > SMG2 > SMW > SMG > SMB2 > NSMB Wii > Mario 64 > SMB3 > SMS > SMB > NSMB
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 26, 2011, 12:36:26 PM
itt: magoose continues to display is shitawful taste

for me regarding mario games:

SMW2 > SMG2 > SMW > SMG > SMB2 > NSMB Wii > Mario 64 > SMB3 > SMS > SMB > NSMB

i was going to mock you for continuing this dumb canonical ranking exercise, but i kinda agree with your list
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on November 26, 2011, 01:05:59 PM
I loved Double Dash btw, I'm cool with being the only one who did though.
I'm with you on that one, think it fucking sucks that they didn't continue the two chars on a cart thing but they had to start dumbing the shit out of everything for grandma.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Eel O'Brian on November 26, 2011, 02:37:04 PM
I went to Best Buy yesterday evening around 9 and saw stacks of the $179 bundles (Zelda and Mario 3D Land) sitting there, dunno if they overstocked or what but I was actually surprised they hadn't sold out
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 26, 2011, 05:32:15 PM
People of the Bore: Please buy MK7.

I just realized that I dislike the majority of ninthings found elsewhere; hyper-sensitivity and sale-whoredom irreparably ruined them. So I really, really don't wanna play against them. So again, please. Buy the fucking game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2011, 05:58:08 PM
Of course I will.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 26, 2011, 06:33:40 PM
SMG's way better than SMG2 in every category except probably level design.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 26, 2011, 06:34:26 PM
i <3 you shaka, but fuck mario kart. it's one of those games that you really only need play ONE version of

spoiler (click to show/hide)
quite unlike dynasty warriors :tophat
[close]
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on November 26, 2011, 06:34:57 PM
SMG's way better than SMG2 in every category except probably level design.

you mean that only bit that matters in a platformer?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 26, 2011, 06:42:50 PM
SMG's way better than SMG2 in every category except probably level design.

you mean that only bit that matters in a platformer?

Well, okay... but it does have fewer levels.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2011, 06:48:14 PM
Mario Galaxy 2 has better, more varied levels, the lack of a stupid hub world (fuck this concept in platformers), better music, and is a much harder game than its predecessor.  SMG2 is the best 3D mario game by far.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 26, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
It does NOT have better music. :punch
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 26, 2011, 06:49:38 PM
i <3 you shaka, but fuck mario kart. it's one of those games that you really only need play ONE version of

spoiler (click to show/hide)
quite unlike dynasty warriors :tophat
[close]

:'(
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 26, 2011, 06:50:07 PM
People of the Bore: Please buy MK7.

I just realized that I dislike the majority of ninthings found elsewhere; hyper-sensitivity and sale-whoredom irreparably ruined them. So I really, really don't wanna play against them. So again, please. Buy the fucking game.

Mario Kart DS is my favorite entry in the series.  If MK7 is like it, then I'm down.

If it is like MK Wii or Double Dash (both are poor, although online play partially saves the former), then I'm gonna pass.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 26, 2011, 07:38:06 PM
Mario Galaxy 2 has better, more varied levels, the lack of a stupid hub world (fuck this concept in platformers), better music, and is a much harder game than its predecessor.  SMG2 is the best 3D mario game by far.

more varied levels my ass! when you have to pick content from the previous game and call it "throwback throwdown" you fucking failed,SMG2 is the lamest expansion pack ever but with the magical nintendo glasses,it turns into AAA gold!

and the game is not harder than the predecessor in the slighest

mario 64,now that had variety,but nooooooooope let's hate on classics will ya! >:(

Quote
except probably level design.

everytime people says "level design" i cringe,what are ya an architect? do you look at the mona lisa and talk about "color design" or some shit like that? there are only good levels,bad levels,and forgettable levels and mario galaxy 2 is all about the last kind
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on November 26, 2011, 07:45:39 PM
itt: magoose continues to display is shitawful taste

for me regarding mario games:

SMW2 > SMG2 > SMW > SMG > SMB2 > NSMB Wii > Mario 64 > SMB3 > SMS > SMB > NSMB

My list is pretty close but SMW is too high.  You are awesome for giving SMB2 recognition (assuming that's USA).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: AdmiralViscen on November 26, 2011, 07:49:22 PM
Does MK7 have the challenge mode from MK DS? I have no one to play with anymore so this has to work well in single player.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2011, 08:25:13 PM
Mario Galaxy 2 has better, more varied levels, the lack of a stupid hub world (fuck this concept in platformers), better music, and is a much harder game than its predecessor.  SMG2 is the best 3D mario game by far.

more varied levels my ass! when you have to pick content from the previous game and call it "throwback throwdown" you fucking failed,SMG2 is the lamest expansion pack ever but with the magical nintendo glasses,it turns into AAA gold!

and the game is not harder than the predecessor in the slighest

mario 64,now that had variety,but nooooooooope let's hate on classics will ya! >:(

Quote
except probably level design.

everytime people says "level design" i cringe,what are ya an architect? do you look at the mona lisa and talk about "color design" or some shit like that? there are only good levels,bad levels,and forgettable levels and mario galaxy 2 is all about the last kind

christ, go back to your corner.  worst taste ever
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2011, 08:32:02 PM
Mario Galaxy 2 has better, more varied levels, the lack of a stupid hub world (fuck this concept in platformers), better music, and is a much harder game than its predecessor.  SMG2 is the best 3D mario game by far.

lolno @ music

I like SMG and SMG2 about equal. :-\ But I might give the edge to SMG for its music and just everything it accomplished when it came out. Oh and it had much better bosses.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 26, 2011, 08:37:34 PM
Does MK7 have the challenge mode from MK DS? I have no one to play with anymore so this has to work well in single player.

It does, as far as I know .

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2011, 08:40:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keeM4wFRJWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VUOS4wACFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swfVw7Xprpk (the better remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q03yzji1erU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2GHF8icAXI

sorry, SMG2's music is much better.  SMG had great themes, and SMG2 expanded on them.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2011, 08:45:38 PM
I was going to call you out on the music thing too, but I change my opinion.  I'd rather be on your side.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 26, 2011, 08:47:57 PM
Really?  Only thing I can remember being memorable from SMG was some of the remixes and Gusty Garden, which is the main theme for SMG2 anyway.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 26, 2011, 08:58:32 PM
BN, two of those tracks are remixes of themes in previous games, and the first few seconds of the final bowser theme are the same from the final bowser battle of SMG.


Let me show you how a REAL man selects Mario music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z2kxFCQ_mQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYhmHovdBxY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzYBrUl926c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_gS2jO2PjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85CPQD6hpgU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIuvjG3Egjo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1oR_UDfHSk


:bow :bow :bow
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 26, 2011, 08:58:40 PM
I did love Hightail Falls theme. Nostalgia!

Still stand by my opinion of liking SMG's more.

Edit- Glad I didn't do the list war thing. Thanks Bliv.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 26, 2011, 10:54:54 PM
SMG > SMG2

No doubt.

Fail to see how SMG2 has better level design than SMG. The level design is about the same, but SMG2 has more throw away levels and typical Mario Bloat (tm). Maybe I should start on Green Stars. It's been about a year since I played SMG2. I beat the shit out of SMG in like three days, with 80-90 stars, and less than a week later I sat there with all stars. Took me like a month to beat SMG2 in comparison. Don't get the hype but that's probably because I played them almost back to back, but I waited a few months to play SMG2. Then again, playing them back to back probably exposed more of SMG2's flaws. But then, both games are so awesome debating between the two is kinda pointless.

The only thing SMG2 has over SMG is the map. Fuck hub worlds, they're gay unless they're Jet Set Radio Future.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on November 26, 2011, 11:04:45 PM
Target still had tons of the system + Mario bundles in stock ($179)

I was sort of tempted, but there's no sense buying a system with only one game I want to play and no second in sight
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on November 26, 2011, 11:24:14 PM
SMG > SMG2

No doubt.

Fail to see how SMG2 has better level design than SMG. The level design is about the same, but SMG2 has more throw away levels and typical Mario Bloat (tm).

Galaxy 1 reused entire levels.  It has a superior score and the best powerup (ice Mario), but that's it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 26, 2011, 11:26:14 PM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 26, 2011, 11:33:11 PM
Target still had tons of the system + Mario bundles in stock ($179)

I was sort of tempted, but there's no sense buying a system with only one game I want to play and no second in sight

It's best to wait for the revision.  It seems like most third party games from here on out are going to be supporting the second stick add-on.  The revision will probably be sooner than later, and either way you'll have more than one game to play.  Maybe three! (depending on E3 announcements)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 12:15:43 AM
not to interrupt all the wii talk, but shinobi 3d is bonertastic

:hyper
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 27, 2011, 03:23:59 AM
Target still had tons of the system + Mario bundles in stock ($179)

I was sort of tempted, but there's no sense buying a system with only one game I want to play and no second in sight

Why would you buy a system that is already outdated.

At least wait for Kingdom Hearts! (which might come with a new revision anyhow)

not to interrupt all the wii talk, but shinobi 3d is bonertastic

I like Shinobi and I like Griptone even though they can't program graphics worth shit (Shattered Dimensions ran at like 5fps with no graphics pushing).  Will play this eventually.

Hey Oscar, so on MK7, did Retro just design a track or two like Raban suggested?  Or did they design the actual core gameplay?  I'm only buying this if they designed the actual game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on November 27, 2011, 04:06:32 AM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?


Gold Leaf obviously, and Dreadnought is a near-straight remix of Battlerock.  Obviously SMG2 recycles a lot of individual building blocks of 1, but nothing like that.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 27, 2011, 06:38:33 AM
Hey Oscar, so on MK7, did Retro just design a track or two like Raban suggested? 

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g384/TazzyManiak/35ji5qf.gif)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 27, 2011, 08:38:59 AM
jesus christ magoose

i keep my expectations for you pretty low but you always find a way to squeak under them

you really don't see why level design is one of the, if not the, most important thing in a platformer game?

my point is what does level design exactly entail? secret exits? enemies? points where you jump? gimmick like yoshi?

when someone says "SMG2 has better level design than SMG1" they might as well say "potato have a better frying design than fish"

level design it's just a term that makes you sound like a dork,without saying anything
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 27, 2011, 09:43:31 AM
(http://i.usatoday.net/life/_photos/2010/06/02/magoox.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 10:08:13 AM
I think what Magus is trying to say that in many ways, people attribute good level design to being...whacky levels rather than tight levels. Example: why do people say that Jak and Daxter have better level design than Jak 2, despite Jak and Daxter playing like an outdated psx platformer straight out of the 90's? Because it has more "heart"? People, very often, use very trivial, emotional things for defining what makes a good level, rather than the design itself, which can often make such discussions confusing.

But then, we know Magus likes the whacky so I don't know what the fuck.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 10:11:55 AM
Dammit. Red handed.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on November 27, 2011, 10:21:59 AM
this has *got* to be a language barrier

not even magoose is this obtuse

magoose click twice if you understand 'level' 

bark once if you understand 'design'

whistle provocatively if you don't understand a thing

i'm saying we should say what makes a level good instead of just saying "better level design" what makes SMG2 level better than SMG? i don't fucking know because most SMG2 level just use the same gimmick's of SMG,they are not harder,they don't feature different enemies and in fact they are even shorter so.....

saying "better level design" just goes around the argument without getting to the core of it,it just says nothing
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 10:26:23 AM
Goddamn. That's actually...I...I agree with all of that. And it's a Magus post and it hits the core problem that I mentioned in the post a few posts up: people very rarely say WHY a level is designed better. I see it as a very personal, subjective thing.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Raban on November 27, 2011, 10:31:27 AM
Hey Oscar, so on MK7, did Retro just design a track or two like Raban suggested? 

(http://i1099.photobucket.com/albums/g384/TazzyManiak/35ji5qf.gif)

:teehee
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: TakingBackSunday on November 27, 2011, 10:37:13 AM
SMG2 has tighter, more concise levels, hardly ever repeating itself like SMG did.  Also, horizontal gravity levels, I said goddamn.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on November 27, 2011, 10:57:05 AM
itt: magoose continues to display is shitawful taste

for me regarding mario games:

SMW2 > SMG2 > SMW > SMG > SMB2 > NSMB Wii > Mario 64 > SMB3 > SMS > SMB > NSMB

I agree with this list 100%
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 10:58:18 AM
Tell me more about Shinobi, Oscar. How does it fare against Shinobi III?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 11:00:36 AM
More importantly, how's the music?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 27, 2011, 11:03:39 AM
There's a lot of homage to Shinobi 3 in it, but it's its own game.  It starts being dick-hard early on which is nice.  Combat system is good, haven't quite figured out all the ins and outs of the scoring system yet.

is the combat like Shinobi 3 where you're tossing kunai or doing a dope dash slash? or is it like a griptonite game where it's almost 2D Devil May Cry? either would be good
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 11:05:15 AM
SMG2 has tighter, more concise levels, hardly ever repeating itself like SMG did.  Also, horizontal gravity levels, I said goddamn.

Also it at least had some challenge to it, SMG was piss easy.

Really? I thought SMG2 was easier. You counting green stars?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 11:07:55 AM
I should get to getting green stars. I think that's why most people love SMG2 more than SMG? Is that where the best of the game lies? I didn't think SMG2 got great until like 60-70 stars in.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 27, 2011, 11:18:25 AM
no, that's Mario 3DS where the post-game content is worthwhile. 

the green stars are simply hidden things to collect throughout old levels.  finding and grabbing them is easy and only slightly more challenging than the main game, in that it's still not challenging.  It's a lot of "dive off this edge to hit the star, or fall and die" stuff.  you do them all to unlock the last challenge stage, which is pretty difficult.

Both galaxy 2 and Mario 3DS have a single challenging level hidden behind all these requirements.  Both levels are bittersweet because it shows how the Mario games could be challenging, but it's always only one level.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 11:21:17 AM
But people said it's the post-game where SMG2 really shines.

(http://i.imgur.com/WDFyr.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 11:25:59 AM
Didn't say you specifically said it. I remember on gaf people did say it, though.

"I'm 80 stars in, when does this game get great?" "Post-game!"
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 27, 2011, 11:27:36 AM
you're going through the same levels (literally) for a collectible previously unavailable.  it's nothing special.

Mario 3DS remixes the main game levels.  Are you sure you're not getting them confused?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 11:43:42 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 27, 2011, 11:57:41 AM
I clicked on that link before you edited out  :teehee

those people are more down on the green stars than I was!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 27, 2011, 12:05:07 PM
I'm going through the Remixed, or Special, 8 worlds right now, and they are top quality. They're not even laid out in a conventional "post-game content" kind of way, especially since you're not replaying any levels. I mean they pack 40 new levels. Two thirds of those feel almost brand new. I think some level assets didn't even show up in the main campaign.

Writing them off as padding or fluff is idiotic, imo. I have seen the light.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on November 27, 2011, 12:19:19 PM
For realz.

Edit: posting from a phone on a moving vehicle, don't mind the jumbled writing.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on November 27, 2011, 12:46:49 PM
There's a lot of homage to Shinobi 3 in it, but it's its own game.  It starts being dick-hard early on which is nice.  Combat system is good, haven't quite figured out all the ins and outs of the scoring system yet.

I need to go pick this up.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: MCD on November 27, 2011, 01:51:24 PM
For realz.

Edit: posting from a phone on a moving vehicle, don't mind the jumbled writing.
You better not be the one drivin', bro.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 27, 2011, 02:22:23 PM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?


Gold Leaf obviously, and Dreadnought is a near-straight remix of Battlerock.  Obviously SMG2 recycles a lot of individual building blocks of 1, but nothing like that.

Gold Leaf is the only one I'd give you, Dreadnaught is pretty different from Battlerock.

SMG2 also recycled an entire effing level from SM64 without even bothering to recolor and heavily tweak it like Gold Leaf. I mean I liked the level, but if we're pointing the finger at recycled content...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 09:18:56 PM
Did they carry over any 3d Shinobi-isms (ie. brutal violence, in-depth combo system;etc)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on November 27, 2011, 09:24:28 PM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?


Gold Leaf obviously, and Dreadnought is a near-straight remix of Battlerock.  Obviously SMG2 recycles a lot of individual building blocks of 1, but nothing like that.

Gold Leaf is the only one I'd give you, Dreadnaught is pretty different from Battlerock.

SMG2 also recycled an entire effing level from SM64 without even bothering to recolor and heavily tweak it like Gold Leaf. I mean I liked the level, but if we're pointing the finger at recycled content...

Don't be stupid.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on November 27, 2011, 09:26:35 PM
People of the Bore: Please buy MK7.

I just realized that I dislike the majority of ninthings found elsewhere; hyper-sensitivity and sale-whoredom irreparably ruined them. So I really, really don't wanna play against them. So again, please. Buy the fucking game.

I'm not into Mario [activity] anymore, sorry.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on November 27, 2011, 09:36:01 PM
Galaxy 1 reused entire levels? Where?


Gold Leaf obviously, and Dreadnought is a near-straight remix of Battlerock.  Obviously SMG2 recycles a lot of individual building blocks of 1, but nothing like that.

Gold Leaf is the only one I'd give you, Dreadnaught is pretty different from Battlerock.

SMG2 also recycled an entire effing level from SM64 without even bothering to recolor and heavily tweak it like Gold Leaf. I mean I liked the level, but if we're pointing the finger at recycled content...

Don't be stupid.

But he's right
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on November 27, 2011, 10:08:16 PM
Shut up.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 27, 2011, 11:04:49 PM
Himubell said I'm right, time to jump off a bridge. :-\
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Gospel on November 28, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
I hope there's going to be a Bore community for Mario Kart 7.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Ninja on November 28, 2011, 04:01:09 PM
So, I got that Zelda 3DS. It looks pretty nice. That's all the good things I have to say about the 3DS so far. I need to get  Mario 3D Land, though.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on November 28, 2011, 05:49:23 PM
I hope there's going to be a Bore community for Mario Kart 7.

There's barely a Bore community for the 3DS as-is.   :lol 

I'm gonna get Mario Kart for sure but don't know how long I'll end up playing it for.  Plus I may end up being a sucker and splurge on importing a Vita in December.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Sho Nuff on November 28, 2011, 08:17:39 PM
SSF4 is $9 on Amazon as a Cyber Monday sale. Go go go
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2011, 08:23:26 PM
Hahaha, I think I'm in love with this game.  It's such a dick.  Ran out of lives?  Want to continue?  S'fine, you can start again from the beginning of the stage.  The twenty-minute long stage.   :lol

Eh, that doesn't sound fun.  Maybe if I knew the game was by bayonetta or DMC team so I knew it'd be fun to replay levels and would always be fair; but Griptonite hasn't really shown they can do much besides make fun metroidvania psuedo-castles to explore.  The combat in SD was pretty janky.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2011, 09:22:59 PM
Bitch please, I destroy the PS2 shinobi game and games like DMC/NG/Bayonetta on their highest difficulties.  Same with the PS2 Contras.

That being said, I love challenging tough as nails games from top of the line developers who can program them just right.  Games that are hard because B/C-tier devs can't develop tight gameplay are frustrating and not worth my time.  I know you love love love Griptonite, but I really wasn't impressed with them on the DS Spiderman.  Yeah it was nice to have a metroidvania game that didn't suck, but that was about the extent of it.  They are still B/C-tier devs to me.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2011, 09:36:34 PM
Well that's the other thing, I don't like the 2d Shinobi games much.  They're ok, but kind of boring to me.  The PS2 3d one otoh was amazing and one of the best action games I've played.  Even Kunoichi was alright.  Was hoping the DS Shinobi would play like those.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 28, 2011, 09:50:57 PM
I'm fine with hard games unless it feels like poorly designed, cheap attempt at "old skool" difficulty (Contra 4)

oh, I didn't see that Contra 4 comparison lol.  Everything else said sounds exciting, though!  I thought Contra 4 was pretty rank.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 28, 2011, 10:25:01 PM
This game is Ninja Gaiden cheap.  When you get hit, you fall backwards, and they use that to the fullest extent, haha.  I'm actually going to have to be very careful who I recommend this to.  It's a great game, but it is hard in that particular way that make most modern gamers cry foul.

Ninja Gaiden cheap can be pretty cheap, but not annoying.  My problem with Contra 4 is that it never felt like my fault, or at least something I could anticipate.  It was annoying.

But is it really as hard as Ninja Gaiden? the old Shinobi games were never that hard
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Bebpo on November 28, 2011, 11:15:00 PM
I didn't think Contra 4 was too hard.  It definitely seemed easier than the other Contras; it had a lot of trial & error for sure though.

I find game where you get hit and stuck in a hit frame FAR tougher than any modern "hard" game.  The original Castlevanias and Shinobis drive me crazy.  Same with NES Ninja Gaiden and the more annoying megaman stages.  I'm so glad we've gotten past the hitstun in game design.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 29, 2011, 07:32:54 PM
(http://images.eurogamer.net/2011/articles//a/1/4/2/5/0/7/0/mario_kart_3ds_wheel.png)

Please tell me this is a photoshop
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 29, 2011, 07:58:34 PM
:gloomy
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 29, 2011, 08:08:56 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-mario-kart-7/724422

Holy shit, I wasn't hyped at all for MK7 but this review is all kinds of glowing. This game is a beast!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on November 29, 2011, 10:04:42 PM
Hahah whereas the 1up review kind of deflated even the minimal hype I had.  Gotta buy it to play with the kids anyway, but it sounds like the tracks are dishwater dull and the water/hang-gliding is as superficial as it looks.

Lol, GT said the exact opposite. Like exactly. "Best courses and course list in the entire series" and "Gliding adds quite a bit of strategy." :lol Who to believe...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 29, 2011, 10:57:55 PM
So, I've been sorta wondering about this for a while, but were the rumors about the 3DS being more powerful than the Wii a load of bunk?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on November 29, 2011, 11:12:45 PM
yeah, if you look at Resident Evil 3DS, it looks nice because it has all these effects going on.  And then you take a closer look and everything is blocky, poly starved, and muddy. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Oblivion on November 29, 2011, 11:28:54 PM
it's not really that cut and dry

in terms of polygon chucking ability, the wii is better

the 3ds has shaders the wii doesn't, though, and that can make the games look better than wii games if they use them well.  it also has a little more ram, but neither system is swimming in it.

i think if both systems were used to their strengths, a 3ds game is probably going to look a little better.

Ah, okay. Grazie.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 30, 2011, 12:12:44 AM
I thought japanese devs had no idea how to use shaders properly. or am I stuck in 2007?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on November 30, 2011, 12:50:17 AM
The only ones I've seen running in person are Pilotwings and Street Fighter so I have no idea.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 01, 2011, 02:44:05 PM
 :greenshinobi    oh boy a commercial with Justin Bieber!  I hate Justin Bieber but this is the smartest business move Nintendo could make.  There's no way the Vita will survive this onslaught.  The NPD results will force Sony to cancel the system altogether.  I can't wait to see Ninty's large, bulbous NPD numbers as a result of this.  Their quarterly reports and gross adjusted net income stock options will be so glorious.  The general public will see this and know who the top dog is in the house-- you just can't lie with gross adjusted net income stock options and considering their profit margins on the inflation forecasts, everyone will understand that the 3DS just prints money.  Also, I saw 10 people by 3DS systems at my gamestop midnight opening. 
And I hear that new Super Mario game is good too.  Go Ninty!   :greenshinobi
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on December 01, 2011, 04:22:44 PM
I can't trust GT after their Saints Row: The Third review.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on December 01, 2011, 07:19:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUKGl1C7W5I
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 01, 2011, 07:37:50 PM
Oh, this shit again, you'd think they'd learn

spoiler (click to show/hide)
That's a joke, Nintendo never does
[close]
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: iconoclast on December 01, 2011, 07:53:02 PM
True successor to the DS version :bow

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on December 01, 2011, 08:40:46 PM
is not a bug, is feature!
               /
:miyamoto
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on December 01, 2011, 09:08:43 PM
it's cuz people bitched that snaking was gone in mk wii.

"wut snaking is a skill, y you take skill out of mario kart"
That's fucking distinguished mentally-challenged.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2011, 09:10:20 PM
snaking is fine in moderation.  if the game wasn't so damn slow on straights, it wouldn't be needed.  reviews seem to be down on the underwater sequences for being even slower, but gliding looks good.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: pilonv1 on December 01, 2011, 11:00:38 PM
Well if you bought it from a fast food chain it may not have real beef in it :teehee
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 01, 2011, 11:42:31 PM
it's cuz people bitched that snaking was gone in mk wii.

"wut snaking is a skill, y you take skill out of mario kart"

snaking is a skill in as much as double-tapping to dash in a fighting game is a "skill"
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on December 01, 2011, 11:53:34 PM
How much Nintendo cares about 'skill':  characters randomly trip in Smash Bros Brawl


(I should point out that I like Smash Bros games.  Not hating on the series.  Only on the serious fighting game cred people think it has.)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on December 02, 2011, 01:31:59 AM
I don't care one way about snaking or the other, but that looks harder to pull off than MKDS. :-\ And it'll be required for online.

Ehhh... my poor thumbs...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 02, 2011, 09:13:49 AM
How much Nintendo cares about 'skill':  characters randomly trip in Smash Bros Brawl


(I should point out that I like Smash Bros games.  Not hating on the series.  Only on the serious fighting game cred people think it has.)


ay bro, no such thing as cheap.  I wish characters randomly tripped in umvc3, mid combo even.  I like ninty's philosophy--If you're doing too well, you should be punished.  no gamer left behind.  occupy effort and skill
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Eel O'Brian on December 02, 2011, 09:15:03 AM
:lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on December 02, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
How much Nintendo cares about 'skill':  characters randomly trip in Smash Bros Brawl


(I should point out that I like Smash Bros games.  Not hating on the series.  Only on the serious fighting game cred people think it has.)


ay bro, no such thing as cheap.  I wish characters randomly tripped in umvc3, mid combo even.  I like ninty's philosophy--If you're doing too well, you should be punished.  no gamer left behind.  occupy effort and skill

Miyamoto Bergeron
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 03, 2011, 06:00:33 AM
Oscar-san, or anyone in the know, how's Devil Survivor? I was thinking about picking up Overclocked the other day.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 03, 2011, 07:54:12 AM
Yeah, I like SMT and SRPGs, so I'm sold.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on December 04, 2011, 06:18:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyBVVGfWi3E

Mario Kart 7 minutes of testing
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on December 04, 2011, 06:46:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyBVVGfWi3E

Mario Kart 7 minutes of testing
What am I seeing here that makes it worth being subjected to that uber gaytarded song exactly?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 04, 2011, 06:49:27 PM
The track is glitched; If you purposely fall off at a certain point you'll respawn in the opposite direction of the track, thus skipping about half a lap.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 04, 2011, 06:54:34 PM
It's okay, they can just patc--

Oh wait :derp
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Van Cruncheon on December 04, 2011, 06:58:55 PM
is that music in the game? because if so i WILL NEVER BUY IT
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on December 04, 2011, 07:21:21 PM
Mario Kart 64 was about as buggy as a Bethesda game and people still hold it in high regard.

Still, it's painfully obvious Nintendo just did not give much of a fuck about how good it is, just that they had to get a 3DS version of Mario Kart out now to help lagging sales.

Quote
is that music in the game? because if so i WILL NEVER BUY IT

No, this appears to be the music (not that it is much better)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_LieV2VbV4
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on December 04, 2011, 07:55:38 PM
Devil Survivor is really good. It's a unique take on the srpg genre with an interesting SMT spin without it feeling like a desperate Tactics Ogre/Final Fantasy Tactics clone. Oscar covered the highlights. I actually think it's the hardest SMT since Nocturne, but it's not too bad if you take your time to prepare -- like always! -- and the paths are consistently involving. And hey, since you're going with Overclocked, since it's the 3ds version you'll have easy mode. For what it's worth, I think it's really well written too, but that's usually par for the course when it comes to SMT.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: cool breeze on December 04, 2011, 08:10:59 PM
did they add more "woohs" and "yeahs!" and "yippies!" to Mario Kart? or has it always been that bad and I just can't remember 
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 04, 2011, 09:00:49 PM
@Linkzg, the samples have always been there, but for some reason I'm finding them more pronounced.

@Himumu, yeah I noticed the easy mode this morning, but I went with normal. "Nocturne hard" is making me reconsider, though. I wonder how easy easy is.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 07, 2011, 04:57:39 PM
Sales update [Japan]:

Mario Kart 7 - 423k debut
Super Mario Land 3D - 634k
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: MCD on December 07, 2011, 04:59:11 PM
Nintendo games sell!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Himu on December 07, 2011, 05:02:06 PM
@Linkzg, the samples have always been there, but for some reason I'm finding them more pronounced.

@Himumu, yeah I noticed the easy mode this morning, but I went with normal. "Nocturne hard" is making me reconsider, though. I wonder how easy easy is.

I didn't say it was Nocturne hard. But it's harder than DDS games, both ps2 Persona's, and Raidou. I think Strange Journey is probably equally as challenging.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Trent Dole on December 08, 2011, 04:40:14 AM
Every day you don't buy a 3DS is an accomplishment. :teehee
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 08, 2011, 09:19:47 AM
Why Nintendo sucks: reason #2347

(http://i.imgur.com/AHgqk.png)

2-way friend-adds.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on December 08, 2011, 12:04:49 PM
Did you guys see that Nano Assault came out?  Plays like a twinstick shooter with probably the most-impressive visuals to date on the system.  Has framerate issues though. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 08, 2011, 12:19:55 PM
Has anyone seen the American commercial for Mario kart? It was embarrassing as fuck. Why they thought that was a good fit for restaurant Impossible, I don't know
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: demi on December 08, 2011, 01:05:33 PM
Someone PM me their 3DS Club Nintendo codes, thanks.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: AdmiralViscen on December 08, 2011, 03:28:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqJ80PSfrY
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 08, 2011, 03:33:08 PM
That's what every ninthing dream of at night.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 08, 2011, 03:42:18 PM
Seems like a pretty good commercial to me, remember the target audience is children

(http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/top-10-mario-cosplays-costumes-luigi-princess-peach-toad-wario-waluigi-bowser-yoshi-41.jpg)

(http://loyalkng.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/top-10-mario-cosplays-costumes-luigi-princess-peach-toad-wario-waluigi-bowser-yoshi-6.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 08, 2011, 06:27:13 PM
Nah, you look way better than that pudgy-faced Gordon Ramsey.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: magus on December 13, 2011, 07:50:42 PM
the price of the extra analog stick thingie has been revealed... 20$

and there is a release date for kid icarus... march 23
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Tasty on December 13, 2011, 08:17:04 PM
the price of the extra analog stick thingie has been revealed... 20$

and there is a release date for kid icarus... march 23

(http://i.imgur.com/Uo6Wd.gif)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 14, 2011, 07:07:47 AM
omg, you guys. I'm in love with Intelligent System's eStore game "Pushmo" (Pullblox in Euroland).

Too bad about the price though ($6.99). It's prohibitive for any smartphone user on the fence.

Lots of original and user content though <3
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread Of $50 4GB Titles
Post by: bork on December 14, 2011, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: NCSX.com
  To be clear, none of the games that support the Slide Pad require the Slide Pad. However, game play is apparently improved when the second analog thumb pad is used. No physical port connection between the Nintendo 3DS and the Slide Pad is made when the 3DS is slotted into the accessory - the two devices communicate by way of infrared connectivity. Rubber molding on the inside of the Slide Pad's 3DS cavity ensure a tight grip but please note the Slide Pad covers the 3DS cartridge slot. Every time you wish to switch games, the 3DS must be lifted up and out of the Slide Pad.

   Nintendo could probably manufacture a 3DS that integrates the Slide Pad in the future and call it the '3DS-SP' but for now, the ungainly platform that holds the Slide Pad will have to do. A single AAA battery powers the Slide Pad and add a bit of weight to the integrated unit. All preorders are shipping today and new orders are welcome. 

 :lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 14, 2011, 04:37:46 PM
Anyone who doesn't think the redesign is coming with the extra analog is insane.

Will pick it up for my JP 3DS.  Just hoping it releases alongside or before KH 3D in Japan.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 14, 2011, 04:59:44 PM
To be fair, Nintendo isn't supporting the second nub at all.  Even Kid Icarus, which has the same awkward and uncomfortable control method as Metroid Prime DS, and isn't out for another three months, doesn't seem to support it.
 

also, Nintendo announced the last five GBA games.  Pretty amazing selection of games.

previously announced: Yoshi's Island (lesser GBA version), Mario Kart, Metroid Fusion, WarioWare, Mario vs Donkey Kong.

newly announced:  Wario Land 4, Kirby & Amazing Mirror, Fire Emblem Sacred Stones, Zelda Minish Cap, F-Zero Maximum Velocity.

It has most of the good GBA games on there.  Only missing Zero Mission, Warioware Twisted,  Advance Wars games, and Drill Dozer, and a few others.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 14, 2011, 05:40:12 PM
Nintendo y u no put YI on Wii VC  :maf


Also those games need to be made available to non ambassadors ASAP.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 16, 2011, 01:31:59 PM
the GBA games are out now for all regions it seems.  they don't appear on the store as normal apps.  you go to the options/other, previous purchases, and the ten will be there to 'redownload'.

apparently each secretly had a store page or something which means Nintendo planned to put GBA games on eshop eventually and all that "this is exclusive to loose spenders" thing was bullshit.  shocking.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 16, 2011, 01:56:00 PM
also - the eshop is fucking garbage and anyone who thinks it isn't is because they're living on a breakfast/lunch/dinner of Iwata spunk.

This, a thousand times this, I spent about 10 minutes in it and was like "You've got to be fucking kidding me"

Oh boy...House MD Puzlze Adventure Episode 4
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 16, 2011, 02:05:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjqJ80PSfrY

It's really too bad that they didn't make it more like the Mario Kart 64 commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFO_oxUp9M
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 16, 2011, 03:19:27 PM
the GBA games are out now for all regions it seems.  they don't appear on the store as normal apps.  you go to the options/other, previous purchases, and the ten will be there to 'redownload'.

apparently each secretly had a store page or something which means Nintendo planned to put GBA games on eshop eventually and all that "this is exclusive to loose spenders" thing was bullshit.  shocking.

That's a good thing, though. The bigger the VC gets in general is good.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 16, 2011, 04:44:18 PM
The GBA selection is alright (played/owned all of them already), but do they look like shit like the NES free games and 4 swords did on the 3DS?  Because if so, I'd rather just play them on an actual GBA or PC emu. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on December 16, 2011, 09:43:17 PM
It's really too bad that they didn't make it more like the Mario Kart 64 commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqFO_oxUp9M

Should have made it like this

(http://i43.tinypic.com/na04p.gif)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on December 17, 2011, 09:59:01 AM
:bow Remi :bow2
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 17, 2011, 10:43:51 PM
Tron Legacy confirmed for Kingdom Hearts 3D. :hyper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gE0XxJITQ

Time to listen to more R3C0NF1GUR3D! :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: tiesto on December 18, 2011, 12:06:37 PM
Tron Legacy confirmed for Kingdom Hearts 3D. :hyper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gE0XxJITQ

Time to listen to more R3C0NF1GUR3D! :rock :rock :rock

Didn't know you were into edm, Andrex...

My pick from the R3C0NF1GUR3D soundtrack:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQjq3wxAAaM

:swedes
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 18, 2011, 04:01:56 PM
I'm not really into one genre or another, I pick and choose soundtracks I like. :P

I hadn't heard that version of Derezzed before, I was used to the Glitch Mob version. Another favorite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmo-x8Whs1Y
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on December 20, 2011, 05:15:47 PM
so let me get this straight...

monster hunter 3 g doesn't feature any online? that's really disappointing,why would anyone buy the 3DS version when they can play it as intended on wii for much cheaper?
heck why it's not online to even begin with? the server are already there! >:(
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2011, 05:29:13 PM
so let me get this straight...

monster hunter 3 g doesn't feature any online? that's really disappointing,why would anyone buy the 3DS version when they can play it as intended on wii for much cheaper?
heck why it's not online to even begin with? the server are already there! >:(

Capcom are dumb whores.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 20, 2011, 06:26:29 PM
decided to pick up a 3DS for a vacation coming up. 

got a used one with ambassador status which was nice.

More importantly, dead or alive dimensions story mode, IN ENGLISH (this is very important), is so hilariously, awesomely bad.  Girl says something dumb = SLAP.  Ryu and Hayate slap ayane and kasumi about 10 times throughout the game.  Jan Lee throws Lei Fang crashing through a table for no reason.   

it's like sexist japanese wife beater: the game starring big ass bouncing titties on anything female.  which is what DOA has always been about, but with a terrible japanese-penned narrative added to it...SO GOOD.  It's pretty much what I always dreamed of in a DOA story mode.  All it's lacking is Aerosmith...not just Aerosmith but 1990s shitty Aerosmith.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2011, 06:56:03 PM
Such language from a preschooler!

You know who's dumber? You guys buying their games no matter what.

I definitely ain't buying Tri G unless I see it in the bargain bin, not when Tri Wii is $10 and I can play with GAFers online.

I will be buying RE Rev though because that game looks hot. :pimp
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on December 20, 2011, 09:11:17 PM
Oscar is back!!  :gun
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 20, 2011, 09:12:56 PM
Yeah, I'll be in total Capcom boycott mode if 4 doesn't have online. And also if they don't release it internationally.

Which I'm pretty sure they will, but you never know.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on December 21, 2011, 07:37:59 AM
Not everyone is a dirtypoor who has to make their gaming decisions based on what falls into the bargain bin, magoose.

we are the 99%!
occupy the bore!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 21, 2011, 08:59:04 AM
Shinobi is crazy.  Feels like a 2D version of 3D Ninja Gaiden.  The 3D in it really does suck though, tons of cross talk even if I have 3D at the lowest setting.  Not a big deal though, I don't use 3D that much in any game, except Mario, of course. 


Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 21, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
i don't get spotpass.  I just have to create the spotpass data, leave wi-fi on and that's it?  Do I have to have the cart in the 3DS?   

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 22, 2011, 09:14:36 AM
Finally got some spot pass shit for DOA and Samurai Warriors, yay!  I'm not sure if I like the spot pass thing in general.  like, why not just make a competent marketplace?   on the other hand, having shit just download is nice too. 

Some new firmware update is out-- it doesn't block the acekard 2i.   update without fear! 

I got a Nyko extended battery yesterday.  Haven't really stress tested it but just the extra girth (teehee) helps out my hands immensely.  Pretty silly and arbitrary that a system has to be iPod thin these days or else face criticism...it's not really practical for actually playing the damn thing.  I don't want an Atari Lynx, but some weight would be nice. 

I can't wait for my flight, I want a solid 7 hours to play around with all the games I got...RE Mercs, SML3D, Mario Kart, Zelda, Shinobi, DOA, Samurai Warriors, the ambassador games.  I think the only good 3DS games I don't have are Star Fox (haven't played 64) and Nanostray.  There ain't a whole shitload to do in Prague since I've seen most of the sites, so I might just get a chance to beat a lot of these over the next few weeks :lol 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on December 25, 2011, 04:56:19 PM
Mighty Switch Force from Wayforward is up on the E-Shop for $5.99.  Pretty cool action game with puzzle elements.  Made for 3DS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGqUKnwUCA8

I have Shantae also, but never played Mighty Flip Champs and Mighty Milky Way.  Were they any good?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 25, 2011, 05:01:55 PM
I have $7 dollars left in my eWallet, but I'm not sure if I spend it on this. I remember this game having a turn off, either DLCs or being part of an episodic series?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Don Flamenco on December 25, 2011, 06:47:02 PM
I have $7 dollars left in my eWallet, but I'm not sure if I spend it on this. I remember this game having a turn off, either DLCs or being part of an episodic series?


i think the main turn off right now is that it's an hour long if you just play through it once and aren't in it for time trials/replaying. 

i think i'll buy it tonight.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: originalz on December 26, 2011, 03:34:30 AM
I have $7 dollars left in my eWallet, but I'm not sure if I spend it on this. I remember this game having a turn off, either DLCs or being part of an episodic series?

It's part of the "mighty" series, but other than some similar music the games are completely unrelated.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MCD on December 26, 2011, 04:29:16 PM
http://andriasang.com/comzi0/3ds_paid_dlc_fire_emblem/

Nintendo no more.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 26, 2011, 04:38:59 PM
if you had told me this six months ago i'd have slapped you and called your mother a whore, but the 3ds sold 510k in the last week in japan and now has two million-selling pieces of software

Nintendo always does well at Christmas though, the only X factor we sort of knew was coming but not this year was MH.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on December 26, 2011, 05:40:56 PM
http://andriasang.com/comzi0/3ds_paid_dlc_fire_emblem/

Nintendo no more.

if you bought fire emblem you deserve this and a much worse destiny
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MCD on December 26, 2011, 05:53:08 PM
Fire Emblem rocks, you mad bro?
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 26, 2011, 06:05:48 PM
I'm not opposed to DLCs, I'm just surprised Nintendo is the first to announce plans for it, since a few months ago they stated that the decision was made to appease pubs and how their franchises will continue ignoring them (lololol). Who's the money grubbing bitch now, Ninty?

I guess things change when you start losing money on each unit sold, or barely break even.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 26, 2011, 08:02:45 PM
So I'm gonna ask this again post-price cut, Oscar.

Do you think the 3DS is now capable or repeating the success of the DS, or at least breaking 100+ million barrier with ease?

I mean do you feel it resonating with the Japanese the same way the DS did?

Please pass this question on to your students. It's very important.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on December 26, 2011, 09:15:21 PM
*provided Nintendo doesn't choke it to death like they did with the Wii

If the Wii had the DS's third party support I don't think that would have happened.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 27, 2011, 01:17:28 PM
for anyone who has a Japanese 3DS, a whole bunch of demos came out for it.  Resident Evil (supposedly different from the Mercs one), MGS3, a bunch of creepy girl games, and others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OhyOesrek
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 27, 2011, 01:51:10 PM
I'll pick some of those up from the Japane--

Oh wait region locking fuck you nintendo :yuck

Oh, I'll just get them from the American sto--

 :lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on December 27, 2011, 03:34:10 PM


Oh, I'll just get them from the American sto--

 :lol

 :(

Maybe we'll get them on Thursday?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 27, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
I'm sure Nintendo of America can't be bothered to translate and run that shit through QA, besides there are so many other fantastic games on the store like Mega Calendar and Super Notebook II
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on December 27, 2011, 05:50:43 PM
I'm sure Nintendo of America can't be bothered to translate and run that shit through QA, besides there are so many other fantastic games on the store like Mega Calendar and Super Notebook II

Quote
GoNintendo 'End of Day' thought - Swapnote could be a 3DS killer app

Today was a very, very good day on the eShop. WayForward released Mighty Switch Force, the original Game Boy Tetris hit the VC service, and Swapnote became available as well. Nintendo's press release may not have stated that Swapnote was available, but we all quickly found out that the free app was just waiting for us to grab it.

I have been excited for Swapnote for quite some time now, but not exactly foaming at the mouth for it. Of course, the fact that it was free made it that much more enticing. I knew I was going to get the title whenever it released, but I honestly didn't know how much it would impress me.

Swapnote is pretty much Pictochat, but expanded in several ways. On a very basic level, Swapnote is a messaging service that lets you write/draw messages for those on your friend list. You can exchange these notes either via SpotPass or StreetPass. Yes, it really is an online messaging service from Nintendo. Surprising, isn't it?!

What seems basic at the start quickly becomes a bit of software that is jam-packed with fun things to do. You can draw in 3D, spend Play Coins to unlock new stationary, include voice clips in your messages, attach pictures to your message and more. You even get to watch just how messages sent to you were drawn! It's just such a fun, impressive bit of software.

Throughout the course of today, I have exchanged and received a couple hundred messages. It's a seriously addictive bit of software, and it has that Nintendo touch that makes it that much more enjoyable. Sure, there are some things I'd like to see changed. I would like to be able to take pics/record sounds right from Swapnote, but that's a minor complaint. This is all about quick, fun, simple messaging that is sure to provide hours of fun.

Did you grab Swapnote today? What do you think of it thus far? Leave us a comment and let us know!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on December 27, 2011, 10:32:55 PM
Can we start a GoFuckYourselfNintendo countersite?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 27, 2011, 10:37:00 PM
for anyone who has a Japanese 3DS, a whole bunch of demos came out for it.  Resident Evil (supposedly different from the Mercs one), MGS3, a bunch of creepy girl games, and others.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OhyOesrek

Looks better than Uncharted Vita. They had to go with the classic RE vibe too (possibly due to the hardware's limitation). Nonetheless, I rearry rike.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on December 27, 2011, 11:02:32 PM
Quote
What seems basic at the start quickly becomes a bit of software that is jam-packed with fun things to do. You can draw in 3D, spend Play Coins to unlock new stationary, include voice clips in your messages, attach pictures to your message and more. You even get to watch just how messages sent to you were drawn! It's just such a fun, impressive bit of software.

Still waiting for the list of fun things to to
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 27, 2011, 11:06:50 PM
I got over 300 messages and 150 replies so far.

It's a fun application, nowhere as useful as a standard messaging app. It's slow as fuck, and spam friendly.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 28, 2011, 12:01:06 AM
I don't have any complaints other than it was hyped by a large group as a messaging app replacement. As soon as you sample the app itself, however, you'll realize how it can't be any farther from the truth.

What it does though, it does best. And it's not as simple as I initially thought, as it kept unlocking features. I also think this is the first time I felt glad for having a stylus, the accuracy and ease of scribbling is impressive.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on December 28, 2011, 12:46:59 AM
If you're a scribbler, it's a fun app.  And it's free.

Don't see what's worth complaining about here, but I don't understand how people can eat Vegemite without throwing up, either.

Don't worry, I think it's disgusting too
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 28, 2011, 12:52:24 AM
You won't think that when you get as many photo realistic schlongs as I did.

I got a couple of vjjs too, but nowhere near as accurate. Given the fanbase, it wasn't too surprising.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 28, 2011, 01:17:14 AM
:lol oops.

Mind > gutter.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 28, 2011, 01:37:43 AM
I didn't know what swapnote was until you guys mentioned it.  So it's "fun" messaging? like how the camera is terrible but "fun" because you can wiggle on faces.  or the music player is terrible but fun because you can change the sound by moving a slider? Can't wait to see people claim that sharing recordings and photos can be fun.



(http://i.imgur.com/dto5K.jpg)

dammit, Nintendo
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 28, 2011, 02:41:56 AM
You can add audio recordings for 15 play coins lol, though I'm not sure if it's a one time "charge" or not.

Another slightly annoying thing is that it only downloads 20 messages per launch, which wouldn't be a problem if people were't bent on broadcasting every note to everyone on their friend list.

So unless I'm missing something I have to open the app > download 20 notes > close app > open app > download 14 notes.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 28, 2011, 05:11:28 AM
Why aren't we 3DS friends, Oscar? I happen to draw the most amazing penes.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 28, 2011, 05:21:17 AM
I'll try to enter it, but I can't promise getting it right on my first try.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 28, 2011, 05:22:57 AM
I'm really starting to feel that one of my main problem with the 3DS' online and FC is that I've added too many people I don't care much about or know too well. I should trim the friend list down.

So unless I'm missing something I have to open the app > download 20 notes > close app > open app > download 14 notes.

I got this wrong, the app will download 20 notes upon launch, then download a new batch every ~15 seconds or so.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on December 28, 2011, 05:46:22 AM
I didn't know what swapnote was until you guys mentioned it.  So it's "fun" messaging? like how the camera is terrible but "fun" because you can wiggle on faces.  or the music player is terrible but fun because you can change the sound by moving a slider? Can't wait to see people claim that sharing recordings and photos can be fun.

It's free online pictochat.  If you can't have fun making scribbles, that's your fault for being dead inside.  As for me, I send out pictures of penises every hour on the hour.   Just to let my friends list know I AM ALIVE.

3D or 2D penises?

(I was making a joke in that earlier post, but now I can't tell if you and Shaka are serious)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on December 28, 2011, 10:33:21 AM
NOthing will ever replace the fun of pictochat at game press conferences. Kaz Hirai would be droning on but you could always rely on pictochat to provide you with snarky commentary and pictures of Crash Bandicoot with his weiner hanging out.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 29, 2011, 11:38:13 PM
VVVVVV is a nifty $8 port.  Nice subtle use of 3d and I'm surprised the ghosting isn't too much of a problem considering the black backgrounds.  I really wanna Megaman game with autostereoscopic visuals now.

Nano Assault (retail) however is meh.  Shinen are technically proficient but they need to hire someone better at game design.  FAST and Jett Rocket were similarly ho hum.
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 30, 2011, 03:39:44 AM
Does it have any extras? I bought the original for $1.24 and completed 100% in a very short time.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on December 30, 2011, 05:59:23 AM
It has a batch of user made stuff preloaded with the initial download.  I'm guessing its a 'best of' dealio.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on December 30, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
User made content was patched in with ver. 2.0 as well. I may pass and go for Mighty Switch Force instead.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamie on December 31, 2011, 10:56:37 PM
Need me some MSG3 already, march can't come soon enough. For all the hate I have for most 3D games I really think the game will benefit from it. Shame about the downgraded graphics though  :-\
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on January 10, 2012, 08:00:25 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/01/10/kid-icarus-uprising-will-use-circle-pad-pro-to-support-lefties/

THE 3DS LITE ISN'T COMING BECAUSE NINTENDO ISN'T SUPPORTING THE CIRCLE PAD DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on January 10, 2012, 08:45:59 PM
:dur :dur :dur
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 10, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/01/10/kid-icarus-uprising-will-use-circle-pad-pro-to-support-lefties/

THE 3DS LITE ISN'T COMING BECAUSE NINTENDO ISN'T SUPPORTING THE CIRCLE PAD DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Was always a stupid argument.  At least Icarus is playable now for us LEFTIES!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: originalz on January 11, 2012, 03:02:11 AM
Yo, Nano Assault is pretty good.  Twinstick shooter with some Starfox-style rail segments.  The 3D is well-done and it has awesome music.  Can't go wrong for 20 bones.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 11, 2012, 05:26:22 PM
Oscar, N-titles weren't supporting it because by the time it was introduced most games like SM3DL were probably past the point where it could have been included.  For such a new accessory, it was way too earlier to start spouting "look, no 1st party games are supporting it!  It won't be in a revision!!".  Maybe a year after release if there was nothing, sure.  But it's been out less than a month and it was a silly argument by n-fans wanting to discourage people from waiting for a revision.

I've said it in the past and I will say it again, I'm sure the revision with the analog is coming, I was hoping it would be released alongside KH3D as the flagship title for revision launch, thus giving me a better reason to double dip on the hardware; however with SE actually getting KH3D out at a normal pace, I'm sure it's too early for revision launch which would probably be fall/winter 2012.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 11, 2012, 07:48:37 PM
does the circle pad pro work with third party battery extenders? if not does it expand battery capacity? if not WHAT THE FUCK NINTENDO YOU FUCKING ASSHOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 11, 2012, 08:39:30 PM
I honestly don't care whether the revision adds a second slider or not, I just want every game that desperately needs it, to utilize it now that it's out there.

Kid Icarus' controls sounded and looked awkward, something that was verified by un-lobotomized testers. So denying it of the twin stick support/option would've been really stupid. Timing is clearly not an issue, so I can't think of anything but fucking pride getting in the way.

I'm perplexed by people hoping for the add-on to fade away. You can see them trying to shut down any discussion surrounding its inclusion in future revisions and game bundles. Why would anyone not want games to control better? I'm glad you dig awkward schemes and will yourself into preferring them over everything else, but can we have non-distinguished mentally-challenged options on the side?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 12, 2012, 12:27:36 AM
Kid Icarus is bundled with a stand

(http://i.imgur.com/HAofN.jpg)

at least they're acknowledging that the control method will be uncomfortable
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on January 12, 2012, 12:34:42 AM
That doesn't look very portable.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 12, 2012, 12:52:08 AM
It doesn't look very fun to play.  Who sits at a desk and plays a game like work?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 12, 2012, 09:19:03 AM
Kid Icarus' controls sounded and looked awkward, something that was verified by un-lobotomized testers. So denying it of the twin stick support/option would've been really stupid.

And yet, that's exactly what they're doing. Re-read the article, mang.

Quote
Once you attach the Circle Pad Pro, you’ll still use the touchscreen for aiming, but you’ll be able to use the Pro’s Circle Pad — which is placed on the right-hand side of the system – to move.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 12, 2012, 12:47:05 PM
A plastic stand, more shit to wind up in a landfill
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 12, 2012, 08:04:30 PM
I still think uprising was a wii game at some point that got shoehorned onto the 3ds.  I've also always contended its gonna be a trainwreck that I expect to bomba.

In better news, Zen Pinball hit the eshop today.  4 tables for about 8 bucks.  I think pinball is a genre that benefits from higher resolutions, so in some respects the 3ds screen rez puts a damper on things.  I'm currently settling on a preferred camera angle to better keep track of things (theres like 8 camera modes).  The 3d effect is the tradeoff and is very nice here though.  I know someone's gonna barge in about how its freemium on ios but I've played my fair share of tables on an ipod and have certain issues with the control implementations.  So yeah, I like it.  This and VvVvVv are starting to make me not regret buying this hardware.

When's resident evil out in the states?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 12, 2012, 08:08:18 PM
Yo, Nano Assault is pretty good.  Twinstick shooter with some Starfox-style rail segments.  The 3D is well-done and it has awesome music.  Can't go wrong for 20 bones.

The ghosting is pretty bad and the gameplay itself is typical Shiinen tameness.  At no point do I feel an urgency, but rather simply going through the motions.  The boss fights are pretty good though.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 12, 2012, 09:35:37 PM
When's resident evil out in the states?

Next month.

I don't think Uprising will bomba, but it won't be a massive Mario-level success (what is?) It's practically a new IP on a new platform.

Gameplay wise I really think I'm the only one in the world who's fine with the MPH control scheme. Never got cramps, played the online for hours when it came out.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 12, 2012, 09:59:26 PM
It tends to be adults with larger hands that have problems with the control scheme
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 12:43:22 AM
Alright, I caved and bought my first DSiware game aka, game I will lose once my system dies or the next system revision comes out.  Got Pushmo so I can see what the fuss is all about :X
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 01:14:23 AM
Oh cool, I don't keep track of what Nintendo adds.  Like I was totally surprised when I booted up my 3DS today and saw it supported my wireless security (WPA2-AES).  It originally didn't so every time I wanted to use online I'd have to take the security off my wifi network, so basically I never used the 3DS online.  Now I can actually use the online!  Hence why I was store browsing (and collecting GBA ambassador stuff) and picked up Pushmo.

Good to see Nintendo is actually adding modern features with their updates.  I figured they'd be like the Wii updates and just add "security", so I had low expectations.


Still, until it's fully account based I'm not going to buy more than like 1 DSiware title a year.  Also the fact the prices are kind of high lead to that as well.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 01:42:50 AM
Yeah, seems like a good game so far.  Tutorial guy needs to shut up though. 

Picked it up after RK compared it to Catherine, since Catherine is one of my fav block puzzle games in recent memory.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 13, 2012, 02:39:50 AM
3DS is a big ol troll. I feel trolled. Least it has a musou game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 13, 2012, 03:19:53 AM
I was skeptical but Mighty Switch Force looks fricking awesome (GB QL) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov25xcK4LS4&feature=player_embedded).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Vizzys on January 13, 2012, 03:26:16 AM
mighty switch force is pretty coo

maybe a little overpriced

but then so is everything on the eshop
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 13, 2012, 01:18:55 PM
Mighty Switch is not only light on content but also on presentation and basic UI elements. I don't think there's a settings menu. Extremely bare-boned for a $6 games, especially if you bought and played through most of Pushmo recently. Game is ok past the first few levels, though.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 01:21:43 PM
Not interested in MSF because it's Wayforward.  I initially liked their games, but each one they pump out seems more style over substance than the last and people overhype their games to high heaven.  I think Bloodrayne was the last straw with me.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2012, 01:26:44 PM
Nintendo customer service is pretty chill from my experience.

MAF, I'd check out Zen Pinball.  Its purty kewl.

Uhh, I saw Order of Ecclessia for 9 bucks today.  Is it any good? I didn't dig DoS but dug Portrait of Ruin.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 01:30:31 PM
It's ok.  Worth playing just because the metroidvania-age is dead so each metroidvania is worth playing since it's a pretty limited amount of games.

PoR is way better even if OoE has the better art.


I think for me it's SoTN > the 3 GBA games (I dig Harmony as a pure boss rush game) > PoR > the first DS one > OoE
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 13, 2012, 01:35:34 PM
This is was actually my first Wayforward game. Their honeypot of cute Pixel art never pulled any of my heart's strings before. However I think this game has really nice (switching) mechanics a few levels in, so there's a bit of substance to it.

But fwiw, it's technically a puzzler first, and a platformer second. I don't even know why they bothered with adding a gun and shooting sections; It was mostly useless from my experience. I guess they wanted to fool even more people into comparing to Megaman X, since the art style is similar.

The game, as I everyone has been saying, is really short. It can be extended if you go for perfect high scores. I'm not gonna lie, I like going for them. It's where the game becomes more of a platformer, since you figured out all the tricky parts and now you have to jump & switch as quickly as possible.

But regardless of how much I enjoyed it, I couldn't get rid of feeling like I've been ripped off.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 13, 2012, 01:41:06 PM
Uhh, I saw Order of Ecclessia for 9 bucks today.  Is it any good? I didn't dig DoS but dug Portrait of Ruin.

I think it was my favorite of all of Iga's DS games, but I'm in the minority. :-[

It's still an Igavania when all is said and done. So don't expect any decent level design, expect some grindan for ability upgrades, and look forward to a few cheap bosses here and there. To be honest, I think it was the most ambitious and challenging DS Castlevania, and definitely the one with most interesting combat mechanics.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 13, 2012, 01:54:47 PM
OoE is my second or third least favorite of the metroid-style Castlevania games.  Harmony of Dissonance is definitely the worst, but I don't know if I liked OoE or DoS less.  DoS is too much like AoS with lame touch screen gimmicks.  OoE just has boring level layouts and hp sponge enemies/bosses.

also, OoE isn't difficult, unless you measure difficulty isn't measured in patience.  it's not about skill or anything.  you just stand, attack, move, stand, attack, move repeat for several minutes until the obnoxiously large health bar is emptied.

edit: "unless you measure difficulty isn't measured in patience."  my brain restarted itself midway through typing that
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on January 13, 2012, 01:57:43 PM
castlevania has always been cool for all the loot you can find and stuff and effect which is why aria of sorrow got popular enough to get a sequel

and on this aspect,order of eclessia sucks,sucks bad! it's depressing when you get a new spells and it's literaly a "melio" (better) spell
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 02:04:38 PM
I think you mean igavania  :smug

CV traditionally doesn't have any loot!


I'm still surprised igavania has seemingly gone away.  4 years ago the thought would have never crossed my mind.  Somehow I just expected the yearly igavania cycle to go on forever.  Bummer  :-X
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 13, 2012, 02:04:45 PM
AoS was great.

DoS  was mostly more of the same. Badly tacked on touch segments, but the use of the second screen, simple as it was, made up for it.

PoR was ok. Probably has the most decent level design of all the DS games.

OoE was enjoyable and felt like the most different. I think Iga tried with this one.

HoD was bad.

SotN remains my favorite. It was my first Metroidvania game, I don't think I've even heard of Metroid at that point. I was also a greasy teenager with an obsessive personality, and nostalgia is a bitch. So go figure.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 13, 2012, 02:06:08 PM
HoD has bad exploration.  It's short and there's no much of a map.  Instead it's just boss after boss after boss.

But since I dig boss fights in these games, I was cool with that. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 13, 2012, 02:08:26 PM
3DS is a big ol troll. I feel trolled. Least it has a musou game.

Nintendo's been trolling us nonstop since 1996 when they decided to use carts instead of CDs.

Edit: I forgot about the Virtual Boy, that had to be a troll too.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 13, 2012, 02:14:35 PM
I always forget Circle of the Moon existed. Was that made by Iga? was it any good?

I remember trying it on an emulator for a few minutes. Can't remember why I didn't bother to continue playing it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on January 13, 2012, 02:28:10 PM
I think you mean igavania  :smug

CV traditionally doesn't have any loot!


I'm still surprised igavania has seemingly gone away.  4 years ago the thought would have never crossed my mind.  Somehow I just expected the yearly igavania cycle to go on forever.  Bummer  :-X

there is another vania other than igavania? :o

spoiler (click to show/hide)
and before some doofus goes on a rant,that's supposed to be a joke
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I always forget Circle of the Moon existed. Was that made by Iga? was it any good?

I remember trying it on an emulator for a few minutes. Can't remember why I didn't bother to continue playing it.

circle of the moon is super old,it was one of the first titles ever to come for gba and it's age shows incredibly in the fact that it's super clunky,it's gimmick is that enemies drop cards and you can combine two of them for different subweapons so for example there is a the projectile card and the fire card and combining them gives you a fireball,if you use the projectile card and the ice ball card you instead shoots chunk of ice... of course the card are drop randomly and the drop rates aren't that high which is frustating (but i guess not as frustating as collecting all AoS souls) it's not horrible but frankly all the other igavania's are better

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 13, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
Well, looks like I'll just rebuy PoR then.  As has been said, bad art, but I loved the blend of linear and metroidvania styles.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 13, 2012, 06:03:45 PM
Not interested in MSF because it's Wayforward.  I initially liked their games, but each one they pump out seems more style over substance than the last and people overhype their games to high heaven.  I think Bloodrayne was the last straw with me.

Never trust WF's licensed trash. Always look forward to their original IPs, though. And maybe Contra.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: chronovore on January 13, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
one step closer to being a virtual boy

This.

I am still waiting for a "Virtual Boy 2" skin for the 3DS.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 13, 2012, 10:22:58 PM
how is Aliens DS, btw?

(I didn't like Contra 4, btw.)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: tiesto on January 13, 2012, 10:29:29 PM
I absolutely love WayForward's approach to sprite art, since they're one of the few developers that are doing that late 16-bit era high quality pixelart stuff. Most 2D games nowadays are low res 8bit, or flash-esque...

unfortunately I agree with you that the gameplay in WayForward's titles tends to feel a bit 'off'... they are like the American version of Vanillaware in that regard. But oh well, I'll keep hoping they eventually get their act together one day....

I need to pick up a copy of OoE, that's the only Metroidvania I've never played (and one of the few CV games I've never played).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 15, 2012, 06:07:15 PM
Resident Revil: Revelations Edge Review

Quote
EDGE score - 6 out of 10
 
- Consistently high production values. Sets a new visual standard for 3DS Stellar character models and animation
 
- Takes most of its cues from 'Resident Evil 5's gung-ho gameplay'
 
- 'There's variety to the levels, but they're a mishmash of beauty and blandness'
 
- 'Scanning enemies [with the genesis device] while they're alive adds a nail-biting-time-attack layer, forcing you to find some distance and monitor your health while learning more about the lumbering freaks.'
 
- Enemies described as braindead, with no sense of spatial awareness. The first person shooting option emphasises their erratic behaviour.
 
- Jill Valentine's level, the cruise ship, is described as the best portion of the game, hitting ' a fine loop of exploratory memory tests and corridor shooting...it's a shame this solid, engrossing loop is broken by an episodic structure and the design team's commitment to a fractured narrative. Bizarrely, the third act gives introduces a comic-relief double act...if the game gave itself over entirely to the survivalist thrills of Queen Zenobia, discarding the more trigger happy scenarios offered up by the ensemble cast, Revelations would be a more coherent, singular, and dynamic experience.'
 
- Plot described as convoluted and heavy-handed. 'It's a far more standalone affair than the numbered entries in the series and , sadly, far less gripping for it.' NPC comrades are 'largely redundant and distract from the sense of isolation with their cringe-worthy chatter.'
 
- 'Revelations picks up the ball and runs even farther towards the casual-shooter goal.' The addition of the side-step has 'removed one of its most pivotal suspense devices: your sense of helplessness.'
 
- 'The co-op Raid mode is, ironically, better suited to a lone player, recycling singleplayer environs that are by their very nature tailored for one, with their countless corridors and assorted cramped spaces. There's none of RE0's co-op puzzling here, besides the need to do some heavy door lifting. It feels like a missed opportunity.''

With the exception of the CO-OP raid complaint, the other complaints seems make this game more of a classic style RE game.  I wont be gettign this game since i am an RPG gamer but I wonder what RE fans think of this review.

Other reviews of this game are 9's and another one is the gamesTM 6/10 review which i cant find a review of.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on January 15, 2012, 08:00:09 PM
I think Edge gave RE5 a 7/10 and I loved the shit out of that game. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 15, 2012, 11:24:48 PM
I expect RE 3DS to be a half-assed budget jank-fest of Capcom pretending to give a fuck to get gamer cash without actually giving one.  I expect cookie-cutter, by-the-books gameplay and a story that makes no sense and means nothing in the end.

Then again, maybe I'm just bitter after Capcom repeatedly destroying all gamer goodwill over the last 2 years.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Vizzys on January 15, 2012, 11:29:45 PM
dont forget overpriced
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 16, 2012, 03:23:10 AM
I expect RE 3DS to be a half-assed budget jank-fest of Capcom pretending to give a fuck to get gamer cash without actually giving one.  I expect cookie-cutter, by-the-books gameplay and a story that makes no sense and means nothing in the end.

Then again, maybe I'm just bitter after Capcom repeatedly destroying all gamer goodwill over the last 2 years.

Isnt that what a normal RE is?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Jamie on January 16, 2012, 09:55:35 AM


circle of the moon is super old,it was one of the first titles ever to come for gba and it's age shows incredibly in the fact that it's super clunky,it's gimmick is that enemies drop cards and you can combine two of them for different subweapons so for example there is a the projectile card and the fire card and combining them gives you a fireball,if you use the projectile card and the ice ball card you instead shoots chunk of ice... of course the card are drop randomly and the drop rates aren't that high which is frustating (but i guess not as frustating as collecting all AoS souls) it's not horrible but frankly all the other igavania's are better

I thought the stiffness was a design choice, like those old Castlevanias. Certainly never heard any complaints about it, and always liked it myself (especially when you start having the ability to run)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 18, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
Seems like tomorrow there will be a Resident Evil Revelations demo up on the 3DSware. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 18, 2012, 12:05:14 PM
RE Mercs was the greatest crime against gamers last year
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on January 18, 2012, 01:04:26 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5239-Super-Mario-3D-Land-Rayman-Origins

short version of what he says: super mario 3D land is half-assed,rayman origins is cool... confirm bore?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on January 18, 2012, 01:06:27 PM
I believe that's what pretty much everyone is saying about those two, so yes.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2012, 01:27:42 PM
From my understanding 3D Land is half assed only if you play the first eight worlds.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 18, 2012, 01:47:13 PM
Rayman Origins is pretty incredible- but it wasnt mad by nintendo so no mad b0n3rz from gamers
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on January 18, 2012, 02:56:57 PM
From my understanding 3D Land is half assed only if you play the first eight worlds.

First half sucks, second half rules - sounds like the definition of "half"-assed to me~
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 18, 2012, 02:57:55 PM
From my understanding 3D Land is half assed only if you play the first eight worlds.

First half sucks, second half rules - sounds like the definition of "half"-assed to me~

Maybe. The first half isn't ass though, just pedestrian.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 18, 2012, 04:44:25 PM
From my understanding 3D Land is half assed only if you play the first eight worlds.

First half sucks, second half rules - sounds like the definition of "half"-assed to me~

From my understanding 3D Land is half assed only if you play the first eight worlds.

Errrrrr....

First half is fuck awesome.  The first 1/4th of first half is ho-hum intro stuff, but then it's pure awesome.  I was so satisfied by the first half (which is a complete game on its own with a final level, final boss, and ending) that I didn't even bother playing the 2nd half more than a hour or so.  It was just more of the same.  And not better than the more polished first half in anyway besides being more challenging.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 18, 2012, 08:39:20 PM
Bad game is bad
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Joe Molotov on January 18, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
Bad system is bad.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MrAngryFace on January 18, 2012, 08:41:07 PM
So bad :(
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 18, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
Bad system is bad.

This is true, the system is terrrible but it has the games.  :(
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 18, 2012, 09:32:50 PM
Mighty Switch Force is really fucking neato.  I love the layered parralax 3d implementation and the animation is so purty.  There's only like 15 stages but if you shoot for par times I can see getting $6 worth of entertainment out of it. I also like how its oldschool in the way you naturaly can figure out the mechanics just by dicking around for a bit without any grating tutorials.  I wants sequel and a megaman x sequel in 3d too pls :3

edit:  I have Ace Combat 3ds in the mail, will report back in a few days.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 18, 2012, 09:55:32 PM
what

if you didn't play the whole second half you really can't say it's less polished

this is the same frigging thing aeana did

the first half of the game is kirby simple.  if that level of challenge works for you, then yup, it's very well done stuff for that challenge level.  the second half of the game is pretty tough, and it's very well done stuff for that challenge level.  a lot of hardcore gamers playing mario are looking for the latter, which is why the latter half is getting the bulk of the praise.

It's not Kirby simple though.  The first half of the game is on par difficulty-wise with most of both Galaxy games and NSMB Wii.  The 2nd half otoh is definitely tougher than any of those games and more on par with purple coin versions of SMS stages.  There's this weird hardcore movement lately of bashing any game that isn't Maximo/Vanquish level of challenge.  There's a huge difference between games like Kirby where it's almost impossible to die which makes the game boring, and games like the first half of Mario 3DS where you can die plenty in the first half (especially in the last few worlds if you're going for all the coins) but it's just that you have a billion lives and the levels are short so it's not particularly tough.

When does the 2nd half get interesting?  It just seemed like even MORE levels but after 8 worlds of levels I was pretty tired of the formula already and having another ton of same-y levels that are just harder does nothing for me.  The levels seemed mainly remixes of stuff I already played in the game.  I honestly can't see myself going back to the game at this point.  I got my fill, it was highly enjoyable, and I'm good until the next Mario game and what new stuff it brings to the table.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 18, 2012, 11:21:19 PM
Also I want to preempt your counter argument by sidetracking it a little.  If the bulk of your game that is GOOD is way far down the line, even beyond an ENDING and a CREDIT ROLE that's not a good idea.  There are plenty of people out there, like myself, who once the beat a "final boss" and "final level" and see a credit roll, they lose interest in the game.  This is why before I finish a sandbox game or an rpg I'll tidy up all the remaining side-content in the game, because once I see that credit roll/ending and have the satisfaction of defeating a final level...interest plummets.

Pushmo reminds me of the Mario 3DS problem.  I'm sorry Oscar, but I'm not that satisfied by Pushmo.  I've been playing it in short bursts for days now, and am 60+ puzzles in and it's still in the "mindnumingly easy and non-satisfying puzzles mode".  I'm sure once the difficulty picks up, the game will become a great puzzle game, I like the core mechanics, but after doing a pushmo puzzle 50 times, I've pretty much gotten my fill and my interest in doing more and more pushmo puzzles is almost gone.  Maybe instead of each "world" having 16-18 puzzles, they should have had 10 puzzles.  Then by the time I'd done 50+ and started to get bored I'd be smack in the middle of the game and middle of the difficulty curve and get some good puzzles instead of still being in the first third and getting ready to drop it.

I think the idea for me, is that after I've done something 50 times, I'm going to be over it and ready to move on to a different game.  Saints Row might be a 25 hour game, but it's only 47 missions, so by the time you'd be bored of them it's over.  Perfect pacing.  Mario 3DS, instead of having 40-50 ten minute levels, has 80-100 five minute levels.  In theory it's the same thing, but the repetition eventually kicks in and that's why I dropped it a few worlds into the 2nd half.  Sure it was more engaging in concept because it was more challenging, but somehow despite being glued to the screen for the first half, I was really bored during the 2nd half because the repetition of so many 2-5 min levels was kicking in.

You might be different and enjoy having hundreds and hundreds of levels/puzzles.  That's cool, a lot of people do.  But I get bored of repetition after a while, so I'd prefer games to show their BEST stuff before that repetition fade out kicks in.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 19, 2012, 02:49:10 AM
That was disgusting, Bebpo.  Oscar, I think your shift key is funky.

edit:
To be fair to 3dland, its looking to be the most successful 3d Mario ever in Japan, probably because of the low barrier of entry.  This just seems like a game thats just for a certain type of individual and its not seasoned nerds.  Seems like they nailed it in that regard.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 19, 2012, 03:00:33 AM
even on pushmo, just like aeana

tsk tsk

i agree though, you shouldn't put your best stuff that far down the line.  pushmo should have cut to the chase a lot earlier and mario should have cut pretty much every world from world 2 to world 7.  lots of people have attention span issues and even if they don't, that's not an excuse to bore them.

anyway sorry but as you don't like pushmo you are now worse than hitler in my books so any further correspondence with me will have to be done through my proxy, sir andy of rexshire

his address is 123 fuck pokemon lane

I like Pushmo but it falls in the Skyward Sword ughughugh tutorial difficulty, game made for slow people category that the majority of Nintendo published titles end up in lately.  Maybe I'll keep playing until the puzzles get tough, maybe not.  Unlike Mario I haven't taken the game out of the system yet, so I still play it when I pick the 3DS up.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 19, 2012, 07:47:07 PM
Resident Evil Revelations demo is out in North America.  Finishing it on normal unlocks hell mode with less ammo and herbs, harder and more enemies.

It's alright.  Honestly a bit underwhelming because I was expecting RE4/5 style gameplay but it's a lot more like Code Veronica with a different camera.  There doesn't seem to be kneecap to melee combos, running, or a lot of the action gameplay.  Enemies are slow bullet sponges.  Game looks really nice and it has this super 3D mode.  Probably passing on it, but yeah, it's pretty alright.

edit: played it a bit more after realizing there was this scanner mechanic.  gives you about three times as much health and ammo, even on hell mode (where you get a machine gun and like 200 round of ammo).  Game is more fun when you can let loose.  I like it.  And if you get the scanner to 100%, it gives you another herb.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 23, 2012, 10:35:07 PM
I think I need to restart Ace Combat 3ds on a higher difficulty, because I'm basically just 'charging' up qte prompts and otherwise ripping through the game with little resistance.  The graphics are kinda blah but its not a huge deal for the scale they're going for.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on January 25, 2012, 02:04:24 AM
Tried getting the new RE demo. Threw a cryptic error 10 minutes into the download (which doesn't have a status bar) and forced me to exit the app and restart. Awesome error handling. Holy shit Nintendo seriously
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: tiesto on January 25, 2012, 10:02:47 AM
Tried getting the new RE demo. Threw a cryptic error 10 minutes into the download (which doesn't have a status bar) and forced me to exit the app and restart. Awesome error handling. Holy shit Nintendo seriously

Now I know what people mean when they say Nintendo's been heavily inspired by Apple lately...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on January 25, 2012, 10:19:02 AM
Whoa. Sick burn, tiesto.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 26, 2012, 09:17:49 AM
It certainly does have a progress bar!  As it always did.

Ace Combat is way better on normal.  I'm being engaged by the enemy now!  Missions have good variety and the customization available to the swathe of jets in my garage is neato.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 26, 2012, 04:01:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyODzveLRFg

Not that i would every buy this but i think that the FMV scenes ruin it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on January 26, 2012, 05:11:15 PM
(http://www.gonintendo.com/content/uploads/images/2012_1/xvLSi.jpg)

RESIDENT EVIL REVELAYTON
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 26, 2012, 05:49:17 PM
Mutant Mudds is boring so far.  All the virtual boy homage in the world doesn't save it from being a relic.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2012, 10:38:49 PM
If I was a registered eShop developer I'd put out a CC/MH-like game with online capabilities, and rake in the dough.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2012, 11:01:33 PM
If I was a registered eShop developer I'd put out a CC/MH-like game with online capabilities, and rake in the dough.

Actually don't tell anyone but I'm actually going to do this.

In like five years.

Probably for the 3DS's successor. Actually, forget about all this.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 26, 2012, 11:07:22 PM
a new new super mario bros was announced for 3ds

that's all the info
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2012, 11:15:55 PM
a new new super mario bros was announced for 3ds

that's all the info

Well it's going to be 2D. I don't think they said it'd be in the New series specifically...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 26, 2012, 11:24:15 PM
Nintendo: Oh no we're in trouble!!
Nintendo: Why don't we...
Nintendo: Make another Mario game!
[money prints]
[everyone dances]

I have to give Nintendo a lot of respect for having a handful of really strong IPs they can just throw out of a hat whenever they want and in comes billions of dollars.  It's impressive for sure.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 26, 2012, 11:31:36 PM
This time next year, 3DS will have:

2 Marios
1 Mario Kart
2 Monster Hunters

And probably a Pokemon game. 3DS is going to rock Japan and the world.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on January 26, 2012, 11:54:31 PM
I just want a US Project Mirai release. :uguu
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on January 27, 2012, 04:29:43 AM
Nintendo: Oh no we're in trouble!!
Nintendo: Why don't we...
Nintendo: Make another Mario game!
[money prints]
[everyone dances]

I have to give Nintendo a lot of respect for having a handful of really strong IPs they can just throw out of a hat whenever they want and in comes billions of dollars.  It's impressive for sure.

i would be okay with this if their next mario game was more like donkey kong country return and less like another SMB3 wash-off
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: The Sceneman on January 27, 2012, 06:01:27 AM
should I get a Vita or a 3ds? I'm gonna buy a new handheld once I get a job

leaning towards 3ds as it is compatible with all my DS software and I am still rockin a DS phat I bought in 2005.

I should just get both
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on January 27, 2012, 07:03:09 AM
RE fans. RE: Rev impressions plz
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: tiesto on January 27, 2012, 10:17:33 AM
I'm waiting til both get their redesigns. Though Wipeout 2048 is tempting as hell.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on January 27, 2012, 11:03:05 AM
I'm waiting til both get their redesigns. Though Wipeout 2048 is tempting as hell.

Vita doesn't need a redesign (although I'm sure one will come) like the 3DS does.  It's already nice n' slim for what it is, has an awesome screen, and is comfortable in your hands.  The 3DS, on the other hand, starts hurting my hands after like 10 minutes.   :-\
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on January 27, 2012, 11:36:55 AM
yeah, the differences in the potential vita and 3ds revisions are that one will likely be cosmetic and cost cutting while the 3DS will fundamentally improve the hardware and design flaws.

since himuro asked for RE rev impressions, and in short I'll say it's deceptively a classic RE game.  It looks like RE4/5 and you can now move and shoot, but you're not going for knee shots and doing melee attacks or running around in large environments (judging from demo/videos).  It's very cramped and enemies slowly lumber towards you.  It's great unless you've become an RE fan with RE4.

I mention that you can move and shoot.  Well, that's why a revision will make the 3DS better.  I still don't know if I want to spend $20 to get the second analog for RE:R, but both it, MGS3, and probably other games going forward play a lot better with a two stick layout.  Without the stick RE:R still plays fine.  It has several control methods, including a gyro/motion based aiming option and PSP-like aiming with the face buttons.  I just used the default controls which were RE4, but when you held down the L button, you could now move/strafe around.  It's a bit cumbersome to navigate tighter areas.  With the stick, and actually that PSP-like third control option, it controls like Dead Space and a whole lot better.

the other areas the 3DS could be improved are larger screens, ways to improve the 3D (sweet spot w/e), battery life, etc.  It's fine as it is, but if you're not the crazy type like me who owns every GBA, DS and PSP revision and could only have one, it's probably best to hold off a bit for the revision.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Great Rumbler on January 27, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
I have to give Nintendo a lot of respect for having a handful of really strong IPs they can just throw out of a hat whenever they want and in comes billions of dollars.  It's impressive for sure.

Every publisher in the industry would KILL for the stable of sure-fire money-makers that Nintendo is sitting on.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on January 27, 2012, 11:55:07 AM
Lol wut? I've played through 16 worlds of SM3DL, gold medaled through Mirror mode on MK7, and done a bunch of pushmo levels. My hands have never hurt, and I got some long fingers! Relax your grip or something?

LOL, I got some little fingers n' hands.

It's not as bad with Marioland and Mario Kart.  Playing Street Fighter and Dead Or Alive Dimensions in particular hurts the shit out my left hand after a short amount of play time.  I think it's the d-pad placement that does it...never had a problem with any other portable.

Although when I played the Resident Evil demo it also started hurting my hand a bit after a few minutes.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 27, 2012, 12:24:42 PM
I'm waiting til both get their redesigns. Though Wipeout 2048 is tempting as hell.

Vita doesn't need a redesign (although I'm sure one will come) like the 3DS does.  It's already nice n' slim for what it is, has an awesome screen, and is comfortable in your hands.  The 3DS, on the other hand, starts hurting my hands after like 10 minutes.   :-\

Circle Pad Pro, yo. Should be as comfortable as the CC Pro:

(http://i.imgur.com/gwNSF.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/vJHMe.jpg)

Some 1up guy said he could play MH3G for hours with it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on January 27, 2012, 12:52:17 PM
I'm not sure about getting a circle pad pro.  Too big and bulky and won't fit in my case.  Plus it makes the system look like it's on life-support.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 27, 2012, 02:52:49 PM
Nintendo's money makers are dwindling.  Mario and Pokemon and SMASSSSHHH are their main money makers but you can see how stuff like Zelda, Animal Crossing, Metroid etc are tapering off and are sales successes in only specific regions.  In Japan though they have some more clout with Fire Emblem, Tomodachi Connection, Rhythm Tengoku, Style Savvy and uhh other stuff.  Donkey Kong might have a bright future ahead of it depending how they go forward.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on January 27, 2012, 03:07:42 PM
Nintendo's money makers are dwindling.  Mario and Pokemon and SMASSSSHHH are their main money makers but you can see how stuff like Zelda, Animal Crossing, Metroid etc are tapering off and are sales successes in only specific regions.  In Japan though they have some more clout with Fire Emblem, Tomodachi Connection, Rhythm Tengoku, Style Savvy and uhh other stuff.  Donkey Kong might have a bright future ahead of it depending how they go forward.

I think that's why they bought out MH and DQ.

America seems to love Zelda as much as ever, and DKCR did very well. I wonder how Pikmin 3 will fare, and which region will like it the most.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2012, 03:09:02 PM
I dunno, even when a game is a bomba like Skyword Sword it still sells 3-4 million copies which is better sales than 99% of games get.

Nintendo's money makers are dwindling.  Mario and Pokemon and SMASSSSHHH are their main money makers but you can see how stuff like Zelda, Animal Crossing, Metroid etc are tapering off and are sales successes in only specific regions.  In Japan though they have some more clout with Fire Emblem, Tomodachi Connection, Rhythm Tengoku, Style Savvy and uhh other stuff.  Donkey Kong might have a bright future ahead of it depending how they go forward.

I think that's why they bought out MH and DQ.


They only bought the publishing rights for MH and DQ in the west and neither of those series bring in money in the waste, so...no?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 27, 2012, 03:44:53 PM
He means 'bought' as in the past tense of 'buy'. 

I mean its fairly obvious WHY and HOW MH4 is on the 3ds.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2012, 04:02:11 PM
And we're talking about Nintendo published software sellers that bring big money to Nintendo so how does that apply?  Especially when every new hardware sold thanks to MH4 means a loss of money for Nintendo as they take losses on each unit.


Also I don't think Nintendo money hatted MH3/4.  I think it's more of a Capcom vendetta thing that's been around for a decade against Sony.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on January 27, 2012, 04:08:54 PM
And we're talking about Nintendo published software sellers that bring big money to Nintendo so how does that apply?  Especially when every new hardware sold thanks to MH4 means a loss of money for Nintendo as they take losses on each unit.


Also I don't think Nintendo money hatted MH3/4.  I think it's more of a Capcom vendetta thing that's been around for a decade against Sony.

They seem to have no problem releasing PS3-only games like Dragon's Dogma and giving games like Street Fighter X Tekken PS3/Vita-only features.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 27, 2012, 05:19:29 PM
I sincerely doubt Capcom has any sort of vendetta against Sony.  The psp Monster Hunters were so lucrative it made no sense for them to jump ship UNLESS MONEYHATS.

Andrex WAS saying that DQ and MH entries on Nintendo platforms were probably an effort by Nintendo to fill gaps and attract audiences as their own staple ips become less lucrative.  Now they still have to think about the west, and if I was Iwata I'd pay ridiculous amounts of money for the next CoD exclusive to WiiU, but Microsoft won't let that happen.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on January 27, 2012, 05:23:30 PM
Come to think of it I'm not entirely sure what all is hype in 'merica right now.  I guess gta and CoD.  WoW is outta the question.  There's a huge step down to the next tier of relevance as far as I can see.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on January 27, 2012, 05:41:05 PM
gta has hype but people forget it exists because we haven't heard shit from rockstar about the game.

currently, according to my facebook, everybody is hyped for Resident Evil 6.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 27, 2012, 06:06:13 PM
RE is now $40 in the US.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on January 27, 2012, 07:28:46 PM
They lowered the price to make up for the spelling mistake?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 27, 2012, 08:07:33 PM
Something like that.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on January 27, 2012, 08:46:02 PM
For Nintendo, it's a Tuesday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ad2-Mlcis
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 28, 2012, 03:29:14 AM
If the numbers on Returns are any indication, Donkey Kong (Country) is still an extremely powerful brand, selling multi-millions in *every* region it was released.

I just wanted to mention that this game while i didnt play it shouldnt be compared to the others.  It was made with love and respect to the orignal games and they tried to use as many new ideas as they could, something that coudlnt be said for the other games.

I am a Retro Studios fanboy but you got to admit they are always improving.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on January 28, 2012, 03:25:59 PM
Wait, what? You didn't play it but it was made with love and respect? I remember when I had such naive ideas about video games so I won't be hard on ya, but that's silly.

I played the orignal DKC games on the SNES and i watched the dev walkthroughs of DKR.  I dont play platformers any more though.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: chronovore on February 01, 2012, 10:28:41 AM
gta has hype but people forget it exists because we haven't heard shit from rockstar about the game.

currently, according to my facebook, everybody is hyped for Resident Evil 6.

There's no announcement for a GTA 3DS, is there? I think, considering the way the 3DS sales have fallen short of expectations, and the utterly surprising lack of sales for Chinatown Wars, you have probably seen your last Nintendo-targeted GTA.

Does anyone know if the PSP and iOS versions of Chinatown Wars sold well?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 01, 2012, 10:57:14 AM
I think it did something like 90k in first npd,Oscar probably has better info.

ios,dunno

As for new handheld GTA games,not likely but who knows(maybe some (ios)ports).Only info so far is some Ign dude tweet--"Rockstar is working on Vita titles"

Apparently there should be some news about GTA5 this month.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on February 02, 2012, 06:38:52 PM
(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/guild-01-crimson-shroud/guild_01_crimson_shroud_s-8.jpg)

(http://nintendoeverything.com/wp-content/gallery/guild-01-crimson-shroud/guild_01_crimson_shroud_s-7.jpg)

First what looks to be ingame pic of crimson shroud, apparently its a "tactical rpg".
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 02, 2012, 07:26:26 PM
It's not a tactical rpg, that's a mistranslation.  It's a table-top rpg.  He's making a table-top D&D set that you can play in game form with your buddies where someone is the dungeon master and so and so and it's all about rolling dice and moving your pieces (note that the characters are actually pieces on stands).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on February 02, 2012, 08:31:03 PM
Weird.  Is this one of the first games to do this ona console or handheld?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 03, 2012, 03:14:18 PM
Miyamoto has confirmed Pikmin 3 for WiiU.

Sakura Samurai is pretty fun.  Its like a punch-out beat em up game with Goemon sensibilities.  If Rolling Western is any good Nintendo has done a good job releasing new ip on the eshop.  I kinda wanna sorta check out freakyforms now.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 03, 2012, 03:21:22 PM
Never played pikmin 2 but the original wasn't fun to me

pikmin is a great idea with a somewhat weak execution,if i'm not mistaken i think it was created to show the gamecube being able to handle a lot of objects... they are good games but the original is super short so for the sequels they made "dungeons" and put a lot more stuff to find but the dungeons make the game drag a little and are super bland to explore,so you have to pick between "good but last less than 2 hours" or "more averagish but last decently"

personaly i don't see why anybody is excited at the idea of pikmin 3,nintendo wasn't able to mix it up enough the first time with pikmin 2 so i can't see them doing any good the second one..... know what would be cool? a new game not attached to any previous IP without any string behind it
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 03, 2012, 03:31:59 PM
know what would be cool? a new game not attached to any previous IP without any string behind it

Pushmo is pretty cool.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2012, 03:32:28 PM
I just want a Pikmin 3 so I can get another CM song (I like both Pikmin games):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiT0Ms_AzbI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCHOHGq9feE

Bonus:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqf7U2fSbS8
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MCD on February 03, 2012, 03:33:38 PM
Played with a 3DS today and I must say I didn't find any use for the 3D aspect.

It just looked cheap and tacky.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2012, 04:17:25 PM
It is cheap and tacky.

Unfortunately it's also going to be the dominating system in Japan for the next 2-3 years at least so if you play lots of J-games you don't have a choice.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MCD on February 03, 2012, 04:25:24 PM
I can turn it off so I do have a choice, thankfully.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 03, 2012, 04:28:08 PM
oh, I was talking about the system  ;)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MCD on February 03, 2012, 04:32:05 PM
System is OK. Anything is better than the original DS graphics.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 03, 2012, 04:40:40 PM
when tried a demo unit,i saw the 3D effect of DOA,that submarine games,Nintendo Dogs and OOT and those AR games and i really liked it a lot

but on the other hand that was my first time seeing a 3D effect to begin with so..... :-[
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 08, 2012, 08:12:13 PM
Freakyforms (eshop) is a spore-light thing that looks like something out of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends.  Customization of your creatures is flexible if not deep, but the results are usually hilarious.  I've made things like a scooter penguin and a walking asshole.  Also the world itself is customizable.  I went with a nes esque pallete with a black background and neutrally colored foreground elements. But I made all my trees into giant green cocks.  The gameplay is simple quest based stuff in a sidescroller format.  You flick and pull your monster around to collect coins, eat fruit (which in yoshi fashion produces eggs with prizes), find chest keys and uhh walk squirrels around.  So far, just collectathon/fetchquest stuff.  Maybe that will change as I'm pretty early into it.  The gameworld itself alters in size and layout as new creations are made.  Its made a great first impression, I would suggest not letting the primary colors and googly eyes disuade anyone from checking it out. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 11, 2012, 02:56:40 PM
I tried out RE 3DS to try out the circle pad add-on.....I don't really like it (circle pad) :\  My hands started cramping after a bit from holding it and the circle pad aiming suuucks for shooting which I guess gets me ready for Vita sucky handheld analog aiming as well.  At least it's decent for camera controls.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 11, 2012, 09:07:47 PM
It gets better as you break it in.  Took maybe ~3 hours of RE:R until the slide pad got loose enough.

Vita is a whole lot more comfortable to hold and use.  The sticks have problems (short range, no resistance, low grip) but at least they're in the right position.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on February 12, 2012, 12:58:26 AM
I tried out RE 3DS to try out the circle pad add-on.....I don't really like it (circle pad) :\  My hands started cramping after a bit from holding it and the circle pad aiming suuucks for shooting which I guess gets me ready for Vita sucky handheld analog aiming as well.  At least it's decent for camera controls.

Change the aiming speed.  Default is too slow/clunky...fast worked for me.

The Vita being way more comfortable to hold and having real analog sticks as opposed to thumb pads helps, too, but don't judge it if you're using Uncharted Golden Abyss.  Bend fucked it up and you HAVE to use the gyro/motion aiming.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on February 14, 2012, 07:49:34 AM
There a couple of things Sony could have and should have done that would have them in a better situation now (they really should have bought Crash and Spyro full-stop from Universal, no matter how much it cost, particularly for Crash), but yeah, it's like you say - you can't just generate that kind of savvy out of thin air, and even when you get a quality studio together (Sony's got lots), that's only part of the puzzle.  Nintendo's stuff sells well because a lot of it is very high quality, but they've also very carefully cultivated their brands over the process of decades.

Really? Why do you say this? Crash was pretty popular for a while, iirc. But didn't Spyro kinda taper off after like the first game?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on February 14, 2012, 08:36:41 AM
Wow, even though I had a feeling Spyro 1 sold well, I had no idea it did THAT well. Sequels did pretty decently too, it seems.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on February 14, 2012, 08:39:46 PM
Got Tekken 3D Prime Edition today.  Looks like this game was outsourced and handled by Arika.

The game is weird in that it appears to be Tekken 6, yet isn't quite the same.  Heihachi is now the younger TTT2 version but everyone else looks the same.  Some backgrounds/BGM have been removed and replaced by new ones.  The rage system is gone (why?).  Online play has been added, but customization is gone...you can now only select colors for the characters, which is a complete downgrade from even the PSP port of TK6 from over two years ago.  The backgrounds are sparse and lacking detail, but the character models look pretty good and are noticeably better than the PSP TK6.  The game runs at 60FPS with 3D on, but this is completely disabled when playing online and the effect just looks "weird."  Impress though, I guess.

SSF4 smokes this and DOA4 offers more content, but I have yet to try this game online.  I also think they could have added waaaaay more content if they didn't throw that shitty movie onto the cart.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 14, 2012, 08:45:35 PM
The movie is Loli uguu of the most wretched type. Is this the American or Japanese version?

Pity there's not a lot of content, I love customizing my panda bears with bikinis
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on February 14, 2012, 09:17:37 PM
The movie is Loli uguu of the most wretched type. Is this the American or Japanese version?

Pity there's not a lot of content, I love customizing my panda bears with bikinis

American.  I think it came out here first.

I tried online.  You can't see the connection quality, which sucks (SSF4 and DOA are the same way), but I had some REALLY good quality matches.  It runs at 60FPS online too and when you have a good connection, this very well may be the best online fighter on 3DS.

Still, the game feels real bare bones.  You get:

-Survival
-Versus Battle (Online and local)
-Quick Battle (like Soul Calibur BD against various AI opponents)
-Practice
...and that's it.  There's no arcade mode (also like Soul Calibur BD) and none of those wacky Tekken 6 endings are in the game.  No CG at all, in fact...there's not even an intro.  Again I guess they just thought "who cares?  Here's a shitty CG movie!"

So get this if you want some good portable Tekken online play; avoid if you like customization and meaty single player content.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on February 14, 2012, 11:27:24 PM
What the fuck there's no arcade battle?! Jesus christ Scamco
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 16, 2012, 09:16:53 AM
MGS3D demo is up(Europe)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 16, 2012, 06:02:53 PM
Up in North America too

It's not that bad.  The new controls make everything a bit faster and easier.  Some oddities with the circle pad pro are left over from the default scheme.  Only saw the layout on the screen and it seems like peace walker style, plus more actions mapped to the d-pad and touch screens.  With the circle pad pro it mostly controls how it should except the roll move is still on the shoulder button instead of X ('B' for Nintendo).  Some functions are still on the touch screen like activating sonar and zooming with sniper/binoculars. 

The other weirdness is from adding crouch walking without designing around it.  You can grab enemies but can't drag them around; you have to make sure to be standing up before you grab them.  It's also more lenient to detection since it lacks the creep movement.  I thought crouch walking would replace it until I just walked right up to the enemy without getting caught.

Image quality is the worst part.  It's one of those times when the game is so blurry that it's detrimental to the gameplay; enemies at mid- to long range blend into the background.  Textures, jaggies, everything.  The frame rate is consistently poor, dipping most at the bridge and cutscenes to sub-20 range. 

I like the new controls and it's MGS3 and feel owning it four times isn't quite enough.  There're other things that make the port seem lazy, or just under realized.  Nothing has been done to adapt this for a touch screen or portable.  What I was hoping for is real time camouflage switching, but it's still a sluggish menu load away.  Loading time is also kinda rough.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on February 16, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
I like the control improvements (and oddly found it more comfortable WITHOUT the circle pad pro), but don't know if I'm going to get MGS3 3DS.  Especially with MGS HD Collection coming to Vita.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 16, 2012, 06:28:37 PM
I played around for a bit, and for christ's sake, do NOT play this in 3D.  It suffers from the same grainy filter than RE has but its MUCH worse.  It actually physically hurts to play using the 3D.  2D or not at all.

Games only look great in 3D if they're bright and vibrant, not shit-brown.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on February 16, 2012, 06:33:01 PM
why fucking play a 3DS at all if theres no 3D? That shouldn't be a excuse at all.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 16, 2012, 06:43:20 PM
I played around for a bit, and for christ's sake, do NOT play this in 3D.  It suffers from the same grainy filter than RE has but its MUCH worse.  It actually physically hurts to play using the 3D.  2D or not at all.

Games only look great in 3D if they're bright and vibrant, not shit-brown.

oh, yes, geez.  I forgot to mention that  I had to turned it off after a second.  I don't play games in 3D because I move around, but I like the effect in the games I've played; thought it was great in Resident Evil too.  MGS3DS in 3D is like looking at the sun with a telescope.

I like the control improvements (and oddly found it more comfortable WITHOUT the circle pad pro), but don't know if I'm going to get MGS3 3DS.  Especially with MGS HD Collection coming to Vita.

If the MGS HD Collection on Vita has the 3DS controls, that would the best.

The only thing known about the Vita version's controls is that you slice throats by swiping the back touch screen.
 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 16, 2012, 09:23:29 PM
I can forgive many things about the mgs demo.  I understand things need to be compromised and adjusted to make it all work.  I don't even think the controls are that bad.  But the framerate is atrocious horrible stuff that makes this a definite no buy.  The 8 from edge has me curious if they somehow got it up to 30 fps in the final build.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 16, 2012, 09:39:45 PM
Could be, because an 8 on a true 1-10 scale would be nothing short of sinister deceit for the state the game is in now.

I don't think the 3d is that bad actually.  Its kinda neat and there's this 4th wall kojipro shenanigan when you aim in first person and lose the effect( because you have one eye closed ohohohoho)  But I'm not usually bothered by aliasing.  But dat framerate...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 18, 2012, 03:02:07 AM
a question about that Kingdom Hearts 3DS game.  has there been any talk on how its structured?

I liked the first two on PS2 and the GBA game (though in trying to play the PS2 remake I was completely bored and stopped).  Didn't bother with the DS games.  BBS on PSP I didn't like much.  I keep thinking about going back to it (I played as Zack for a few hours, maybe 3 to 5) before I remember hearing that you'll need to play it again with the two other characters, with each needing to be leveled up from scratch, re-grindan, treading through same levels, etc.  I enjoyed the combat and some other parts but it mostly felt like playing it would be busywork instead of entertainment.

All I know about the 3DS game is that you play as Sora and Sasuke.  If it's another game where you're gonna redo everything, I'm not going to bother.  KH1 and KH2, after the obnoxiously long intro scene, were more straight forward action rpgs.  That's all I want.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 19, 2012, 02:56:52 AM
I'll let you know next month.  For now, I think you play it once and switch back and forth between the two characters (in 2 different locations) as you play.  But who knows.

BBS is awesome though!  Why didn't you like it :(
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 19, 2012, 08:04:03 PM
Thinking I'll finally buy my 3DS on Wednesday.

(http://i.imgur.com/OWertl.png)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 19, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
To remind anyone who hasn't already, today is the last day to download Zelda Four Swords for free.  Applies to 3DS, DSi, or DSi XL.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 19, 2012, 11:11:20 PM
To remind everyone, its very boring in single player and good luck finding three other manchildren to play it with.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 20, 2012, 12:58:24 AM
3DS is kicking ass in Japan (no surprise.) 5 mil sold to date.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 20, 2012, 01:14:45 AM
I sort of doubt it'll be the case after two years though. DS was kind dozing at first but really took off in year two. Unless Nintendo has a new version of Nintendogs/Brain Training (by that I mean games that come out of nowhere) then it'll be tough.

Then again, a new MH and Pokemon are a license to print money. Who knows.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 20, 2012, 01:19:54 AM
Then again, a new MH and Pokemon are a license to print money. Who knows.

Yup. Until those two released and their HW & SW impact wear off, I'm not worried about the 3DS at all. At least in Japan.
Title: u
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 20, 2012, 01:31:42 PM
Smash,Animal Crossing, Tomodachi Connection and NSMB3d should bouy things throughout the years too.  I can see legit Dragon Quest as a plausibility.  Again, my concern is with the west, and I think its gonna take a different approach to remain relevant in the coming years, outside of being the pokemon machine.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 20, 2012, 01:49:23 PM
I also thinks it depends on the number of revisions it has.  I always find it disingenuous when people say the 360 has x size userbase or ds had a 100+ million userbase considering they kept getting reiterated.  There's obviously alot of repeat buyers going along with the upgrade paths and hardware configurations. 

edit:
Seeing as you're not too concerned with 3ds outside of japan, what would you say will carry it pertaining to software?
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 20, 2012, 01:50:50 PM
Outselling the Wii worldwide is a doable and very commendable milestone.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 20, 2012, 09:17:37 PM
I also thinks it depends on the number of revisions it has.  I always find it disingenuous when people say the 360 has x size userbase or ds had a 100+ million userbase considering they kept getting reiterated.  There's obviously alot of repeat buyers going along with the upgrade paths and hardware configurations. 

edit:
Seeing as you're not too concerned with 3ds outside of japan, what would you say will carry it pertaining to software?

The usual shit.

The market for handheld gaming in America, outside of some of the DS's craziness, is almost entirely made up of kids.  So... Pokemon, Mario, Mario Kart, maybe some Animal Crossing, a lot of licensed shit, some Kirby, bla bla, it'll be fine.  Nobody is really making much of a play for the audience Nintendo handhelds are typically built on, and it would take one hell of a play to overcome Nintendo's advantages in that arena.

What do you think about the idea of Nintendo going for PSP's market as well with 3DS? RE Rev, MGS3D, MH. Will they have their pie and eat it to? Probably in Japan, but being a DS and PSP combined in the US probably won't take them farther than the DS I imagine.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 20, 2012, 10:37:18 PM
Personal transportation and various stigmas will prevent the xbox crowd from ever caring for handhelds.  I can understand that, I only picked one up for my walks to work and bus rides and the fact the next pokemon will come along at some point.  But in general the 'psp strategy' doesn't gel with western culture.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 21, 2012, 02:48:36 AM
credit goes to Cheesemeister


NCL has announced a presentation by Satoru Iwata tomorrow, Feb. 22nd, covering Wii and 3DS news.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/ninten...ect/index.html



EST: 6 am, 2/22
CST: 5 am, 2/22
MST: 4 am, 2/22
PST: 3 am, 2/22



some rumor
Quote
creamsugar creamsugar
OK here is the rumor: big N will announce a megaton on next year’s meeting which to celebrate 3DS sold XX million.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on February 21, 2012, 02:54:00 AM
"It's the remake of the 7th iteration of a popular JRPG."
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 21, 2012, 02:59:25 AM
FF7?
sony fans would go ballistic

/not likely

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 21, 2012, 05:04:07 AM
yeah,FF7 has no chance

Reggie is pimping this thing through 3DS SwapNote

http://imgur.com/a/j1Pdf (http://imgur.com/a/j1Pdf)

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 21, 2012, 05:51:10 AM
uh, dq7 more likely there, maxy

at least they won't have to touch the graphics :smug
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 22, 2012, 04:51:13 AM
about 1 hour left

Quote
@sprsk
Tonight's Nintendo Direct will be 2 hours, 1 hour presentation 1 hour game footage o_O


link
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/nintendo_direct/index.html (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/nintendo_direct/index.html)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2012, 05:06:22 AM
Can I watch this in bed on my ipad?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 22, 2012, 05:08:25 AM
dunno,try clicking on that link

Nintendo is using UStream and Nico Nico
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Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2012, 05:13:41 AM
I'll test it out before
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Post by: maxy on February 22, 2012, 05:19:08 AM
NOA has some presentation(3 hours later),NOE will be streaming Iwata thing with one hour delay(english subs)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35325775&postcount=1 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=35325775&postcount=1)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2012, 05:27:05 AM
Seems to work on iPad.

Reggie's chin is too shiny for my liking
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on February 22, 2012, 06:08:35 AM
http://www.ustream.tv/embed/10464529

Thats the jap stream.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2012, 06:20:07 AM
Fire Emblem 4/19

edit: with some free DLC until May 31

Mario Tennis Open 5/24

Project Zero Wii zzzzz

Culdecept 3DS :o 6/28

Some Football Management sim for DS. Looks like Nintendos version of Pocket League Story.

Kingdom Hearts 3D

Rune Factory 4 July

DQ Monsters remake

Some eshop RPG

A weird furry game The Rolling Western

Virtual Console stuff like Game Gear on eshop

Some Capcom/Namco/Sega crossover

Etrian Odyssey 4

3DS brain training

Monster Hunter 3G DLC

over
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 22, 2012, 06:42:11 AM
all these games are ooooooooooold

GIVE US THE SEVEN

some new announcement

- a crossover game involving capcom,namco bandai and sega,it will be published by namco

- some footage of etrian odyssey iv

and that's it,no seven at all,super disappointing >:(
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2012, 06:59:39 AM
what a waste of an hour
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 22, 2012, 07:02:26 AM
what a waste of an hour

yep

some EO4 scans here
http://www.gamekyo.com/groupnews_article22645.html

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2012, 07:03:40 AM
Good thing I was playing Football Manager as well or I'd be right pissed
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 22, 2012, 07:35:32 AM
MH 3G DLC?

I wonder if they'll announce an American release during NoA's presentation in an hour and a half. *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 22, 2012, 09:20:28 AM
TLS coming to NA. Yay? Eh I find it hard to care, might check it out based on impressions.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bachikarn on February 22, 2012, 09:54:21 AM
(http://fixed3dsblog.davidturnbull.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Eiji-Aonuma.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 22, 2012, 11:09:47 AM
I'm glad that Camelot is doing Mario Tennis and not Golf while Clap Hanz is doing Golf and not Tennis.  The other way would be fine too (I like Camelot's Tennis more) but at least both aren't doing the same sport.  I'm hoping it has the gameplay from the N64 or Gamecube game with all the career/rpg stuff of the GBA game.

also, Monster Hunter 3G was recently announced for Europe.  If it's translated and all, might as well bring it over.  If they don't, it's just another reason to hate the lack of region free on the 3DS.


Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 22, 2012, 05:11:41 PM
Fire Emblem looks great, new Mario Tennis done by Camelot is awesome, EO4 is fuckyeahinmyface.  Nothing megatonny or w/e but those are pretty solid for me.

a sequel of a frustating overdone game,a sequel of one overdone games,and a sequel of one game everybody stops playing after the first half because after that they are done filling their HARDCOREZ QUOTA

COLOR ME EXCITED
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2012, 06:11:27 PM
Fire Emblem looks great, new Mario Tennis done by Camelot is awesome, EO4 is fuckyeahinmyface.  Nothing megatonny or w/e but those are pretty solid for me.

a sequel of a frustating overdone game,a sequel of one overdone games,and a sequel of one game everybody stops playing after the first half because after that they are done filling their HARDCOREZ QUOTA

COLOR ME EXCITED

I sort of feel like magus here, but I'll be nicer.

FE games are awesome, but I am like 2-3 FE games backlogged already, so no interest.  They come out too frequently and it's hard to keep up.  And they all feel pretty similar but at least they have unique storylines.
Mario Tennis is neat, but I'm not that big on Tennis games; golf has a bit more variety with all the different courses to learn, tennis is just super pong.  Hence why I'm not buying Virtua Tennis 4 on Vita either.
EO like FE is a great game series, but I'm 2 and a 1/2 EOs behind already, so no interest.  They come out too frequently and it's hard to keep up.  And they all feel pretty similar.

As much as they're all good games, there's something to be said that they're, like many Nintendo franchises, the same game repacked yearly or bi-yearly with slight changes and as an older gamer with a backlog those of the kind of games I'm least interested in anymore.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: demi on February 22, 2012, 07:27:19 PM
magus is mad they're all on 3DS ; D

I'm sure he's excited to play Inazuma Eleven 2 though
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on February 22, 2012, 07:36:04 PM
Fire Emblem looks great, new Mario Tennis done by Camelot is awesome, EO4 is fuckyeahinmyface.  Nothing megatonny or w/e but those are pretty solid for me.

a sequel of a frustating overdone game,a sequel of one overdone games,and a sequel of one game everybody stops playing after the first half because after that they are done filling their HARDCOREZ QUOTA

COLOR ME EXCITED

I am excited for this game because it has multiple units attacking instead fo just one on one like in the past.  Seems to be a little fresher than other fire emblem games.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 22, 2012, 07:37:56 PM
magus is mad they're all on 3DS ; D

I'm sure he's excited to play Inazuma Eleven 2 though

not after playing the first one i'm afraid

Quote
I am excited for this game because it has multiple units attacking instead fo just one on one like in the past.  Seems to be a little fresher than other fire emblem games.

here's a secret,i ragequitted fire emblem forever after what in poker would be called a bad beat erased 1 hour of progress

so fuck fire emblem :maf
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2012, 08:09:54 PM
I've only played two FEs, the GC one (was cool) & either the first or second one on GBA (was cool).  If I play another FE It'll be the Wii one since I own it and it's a direct sequel to the GC one which I liked.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 22, 2012, 08:26:30 PM
one thing that always ticked me off back when fire emblem was a new shiny thing that didn't piss me off is that they brought FE7 (the first english fire emblem) which is a prequel... FE7 ending alludes then to FE6 (the first japanese GBA fire emblem) so FE6 features a lot of FE7 character all grow up and married which is awesome

so what nintendo does?

not bringing FE6 that's what! (but there's a fantranslation if you want)

anyway,the thing that draws me mad the most about fire emblem,random stat gains on level ups!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOnaWTO6CI
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2012, 09:34:53 PM
Yeah, but SMT games do that for everyone except for the main character (or in SJ the main character  :lol) and you deal with it.  I don't mind that much.  Keeps it more balanced than you min-maxing and breaking a character.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Vizzys on February 22, 2012, 09:36:37 PM
i cant play fire emblem because i secretly consider that maybe every character is important to the story and if they die I feel compelled to restart
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: pilonv1 on February 22, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
i cant play fire emblem because i secretly consider that maybe every character is important to the story and if they die I feel compelled to restart

I thought I was the only one who did that. Probably why I stuck with Advance Wars  :-[
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: originalz on February 22, 2012, 10:23:41 PM
FE is too hardcore for you wusses, people complain that Nintendo games are too easy and for little kids yet complain that FE is too difficult, "core" gamers my ass.  Good thing that the second DS one has a CASUAL mode so anyone can beat the game with barely any effort!  Your characters also revive after battle, getting rid of any actual strategy and tension in the fights.

They won't let important characters die, they'll either retreat or the game will just end.  Anyone who dies in a FE game usually has several similar units to replace it, that's why you have such an excess of characters near the end of the game.  If you lose too many characters, just restart and learn from your mistakes.  It is possible to get to a point where the game is unwinnable due to having too many casualties, but it'd be pretty foolish to save and continue after finishing a battle with heavy losses.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2012, 10:25:36 PM
I'm ok with perma death in my srpgs as long as I can quicksave every turn.  I don't have the time or patience to replay hour long stages because of one mistake.

Luckily most let me save!  I think FE does.  I did no death runs on the two FE games I played and I don't remember it being an issue.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: originalz on February 22, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
I'm ok with perma death in my srpgs as long as I can quicksave every turn.  I don't have the time or patience to replay hour long stages because of one mistake.

Luckily most let me save!  I think FE does.  I did no death runs on the two FE games I played and I don't remember it being an issue.

If you can quicksave then there's no permadeath, since you'll just reload if you lose a character.  FE is all about tension and using the best tactics possible.  There's nothing like the rush of trying a risky strategy and watching how the battles play out, knowing that there are real consequences if you fail.  If something does go wrong, you have to decide whether or not it's worth starting over to keep that character, it's very exciting!  Allowing you to save and reload is downright cheating, you can just keep replaying a turn until you get the result that you want.

Sometimes you get hit by an unlucky crit which can be frustrating, but it also often works out in your favor, so them's the breaks.

It's actually pretty amazing that FE can still survive with the core gameplay intact in this generation of "press forward to win" gaming.  It is kind of unfortunate that the series is slowly getting easier and having more ways to reload, but at least those modes can be disabled so you can get a "pure" experience.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2012, 10:34:06 PM
Yeah, but when you get an unlucky crit and it kills your character and you need to restart the entire level again...fun stuff when you're 12 and sitting at home in the summer with all the time in the world.  Not so much when you have an hour of gaming a day and you lost all your progress.

I've played perma death games with no quicksave and I've still done no-death runs on them.  The only difference it makes is I play ridiculously cautious and the maps simply take longer.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: originalz on February 22, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
I've played perma death games with no quicksave and I've still done no-death runs on them.  The only difference it makes is I play ridiculously cautious and the maps simply take longer.

Which is the whole point!  You have to be very careful, examine the battlefield, group teams so that someone won't be surrounded, and take your time.  If just try risky attacks and constantly fight on the offensive knowing that a bad move can easily be removed with a reload, you won't play nearly as carefully.  I can see how some people wouldn't like this, but there are plenty of other SRPGs which you can play instead.  It's like complaining that you need to take your time and be stealthy in a Splinter Cell game instead of running around and shooting people like you can in similar games (although the new Splinter Cell game seems to have strayed from the path).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 22, 2012, 11:10:55 PM
I think very very few people take advantage of mid-map saves by just running out and attacking like crazy and reloading everytime they get hit.  That sounds like it'd take even longer than playing cautiously because of the reloads.

Even with mid-map saves, I'd wager most people still play really smart because they don't want to have to reload.  Reloading is just a safe-guard so if you do play safe and get totally screwed by bad luck you can back up a few steps and try something different.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 23, 2012, 05:33:00 AM
a sequel of a frustating overdone game,a sequel of one overdone games,and a sequel of one game everybody stops playing after the first half because after that they are done filling their HARDCOREZ QUOTA

COLOR ME EXCITED

Yeah, that's why I used the words "for me", you stupid fucking cockmaster optimus prime.

Almost everyone I know who started the EO games finished them, including one of my coworkers who hadn't touched a video game in years.  You're fucking terrible at games, news at eleven, go play more Rhythm Tengoku that you couldn't even sell enough blood and semen to pay for, you worthless piece of garbage.

ehy i've actualy finished EO2 but there are so many thing that rub me wrong about it,that ultimately the part of my brain that says "oooohhhh looooootttt" has to fight with the part of my brain that find parts of the game stupid

like the fact that everytime i want to buy something,i have to waste 30 minutes with a shitty party gathering items because enemies barely drop any sort of spending money
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 23, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
I sort of feel like magus here, but I'll be nicer.

FE games are awesome, but I am like 2-3 FE games backlogged already, so no interest.  They come out too frequently and it's hard to keep up.  And they all feel pretty similar but at least they have unique storylines.
Mario Tennis is neat, but I'm not that big on Tennis games; golf has a bit more variety with all the different courses to learn, tennis is just super pong.  Hence why I'm not buying Virtua Tennis 4 on Vita either.
EO like FE is a great game series, but I'm 2 and a 1/2 EOs behind already, so no interest.  They come out too frequently and it's hard to keep up.  And they all feel pretty similar.

As much as they're all good games, there's something to be said that they're, like many Nintendo franchises, the same game repacked yearly or bi-yearly with slight changes and as an older gamer with a backlog those of the kind of games I'm least interested in anymore.

And I'll be nicer to you, because I respect your right to live.

Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon came out three years ago.  Radiant Dawn was two years before that.  Path of Radiance was two years before *that*.  Now, Sacred Stones came out the same year, but that was also the last handheld FE before SD, which means it was five years between handheld FEs.  Now, Bebpo, some people might be able to pull these shenanigans.  But you?  You clear more games (and longer games) than virtually anyone I know.  There is no fucking way these games are coming too fast for you to handle.

Tennis, hey, if you're not into it, you're not into it.  For me, I'm hoping that Camelot is going to do another Tennis RPG like the last time they did a handheld Mario Tennis.  And while it's probably going to play in a very familiar way, it's been *eight* years since the last one, so I'm okay with it.  A guy who tugs his ham to every Hot Shots Golf game released probably shouldn't be taking shots at Mario Tennis being a too-frequent rehash.

Etrian Odyssey, again, your perception isn't matching reality here.  EOII certainly did follow fast after EOI (one year), but EOIII was two years later and EOIV will be two years after EOIII.  This is plenty of time to finish them.  And with all due respect, if you've barely touched 2 and 3, you're in a pretty poor position to judge how similar they are to one another.  EOII is definitely a predictable sequel, but EOIII had a metric shit-ton of new shit and threw out almost everything from the first two.  And frankly it's not like we're up to our asses in good first person dungeon crawlers, either.

For me, what we have here is this: FE is the first new Fire Emblem game since Radiant Dawn five years ago (the recent DS games were remakes), and it looks like they're making several interesting changes to the gameplay.  Mario Tennis is the first new installment in that series in eight years, and it's made by a team who makes some pretty fucking fun sports games.  Etrian Odyssey is a next-gen sequel to a series I loved a lot on the DS, and it seems to be toting a whole bunch of improvements. 

Don't get me wrong, I love original titles, too.  But part of the fun of new hardware is seeing new installments of old favourites, and these are among the ones I wanted to see most (well okay, I never consciously thought about another Mario Tennis, but whatevs).  These are good, hardcore games from series that really haven't been milked that hard, especially relative to MANY other series that you give passes to.

I mean, I'm not trying to tell you to love these games.  Obviously if you're several games behind in these series, they're not your thing, so you probably shouldn't be looking forward to these at all.  But to call these series tired or samey when you jump up and down like a fat kid with a brownie pan for new Uncharted, Hot Shots Golf, and Square Enix games is kind of unfair.

haha, ok fair enough  :lol

With FE I was taking into account the 2 DS games with that ugly pre-rendered look.  It's true that if you leave them out since they're "remakes", one new FE every system is a good ratio. 

And I thought there were Mario Tennis games every couple of years for some reason like Mario Kart.  But it looks like you're right and even the Wii version was just a re-release of the GC version.  So it's been a long time, very true.  The only Mario Tennis I think I played was the GC one and only in SP, which was ok.  It's probably the last tennis game I played actually, unless Virtua Tennis 2 came out afterwards because I played the heck out of that one.

EO, eh, we'll agree to disagree.  I think that, like Trauma Center/Team games, bi-yearly is a bit too often for a series that is kind of the same thing.  Yes, they add new elements like the ship exploration, but the main dungeon crawl or operating on people feels like "I've done this before".  If the EO games had gripping narratives that made me want to get to the next floor to see what happens next, personally I'd be ok with it, but then I'm a "I really need a story in my rpgs to motivate me to keep playing all these battles" kind of guy and I understand that there are those that prefer 50-100 hours of pure dungeon crawling gameplay with no plot and just boss fights, exploration and atmosphere.  Plus I'm just bitter that we keep getting EO and Trauma and everything NOT SMT from the old R&D1 staff at Atlus JPN, yet not counting ports, the only SMT-ish stuff we've had in the last like SIX YEARS from them has been P3/P4/SJ.  Sure there's been Devil Survivor 1/2 but those are Growlanser guys and SRPGs and I want more traditional SMT rpgs :(  If, instead of EO4, they had announced SJ2 for 3DS I would be ecstatic.  So yeah, re: EO I'm just being a bitter SMT fan here.  I see EO and Trauama as stealing staff and delaying my SMT games.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 23, 2012, 06:22:37 PM
My god I didn't realize how out of the loop I was, I don't think I've ever even heard of Etrian Odessy, I had to google what EO stood for. Can someone give me a quick rundown of it's gameplay mechanics?

Some characters FIGHT while others HEAL.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 23, 2012, 07:32:57 PM
My god I didn't realize how out of the loop I was, I don't think I've ever even heard of Etrian Odessy, I had to google what EO stood for. Can someone give me a quick rundown of it's gameplay mechanics?

it's a first person dungeon crawler,you make a party of 5 guys handpicked from a selection of 12 jobs and then just bash monster in the face,they drop loot and you sell that loot to unlock new weapons and items,there is a gimmick where the dungeon are populated by super bosses called F.O.E which you have to dodge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5MMqNgUzM

but other than that it's really kinda like a simplified japanese Might & Magic and since this is an atlus game,once in a while some monster comes,and pull off an attack that totaly murders your party making you lose hefty chunk of progress which induce nothing else other than a lot of frothing rage and comment like "U ARE NOT HARDCOREZ ENOUGH"

magus, you are  :heartbeat :heart :heartbeat for just rolling with that kind of shit from me

MY FROTHING RAGE TOWARD ATLUS GAME CANNOT BE STOPPED
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Vizzys on February 24, 2012, 03:10:32 AM
forgetting to buy a teleport in etrian odyssey is like one of the most demoralizing gaming moments
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 26, 2012, 07:59:26 PM
eShop limit is apparently 2 GB.

Yay for that. :)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on February 26, 2012, 08:10:01 PM
Well, that's always been kind of the dilemma with the remake of DQ7.  The game is so big and so long, remaking it up to even 3DS level of graphics is probably not going to be worth the financial outcome.  I really doubt they'll trot out the old Heart Beat/Arte Piazza engine again, but I wonder which engine they *are* going to use.

i wonder bout the same thing
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2012, 12:25:05 AM
Well, I bought a 3DS lol

add me 4854-7277-1109
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2012, 06:40:42 PM
what's a group #
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 27, 2012, 06:44:51 PM
apparently a bravely default demo hits in 2 days and i'm the only one giving a fuck

:rock :rock :rock me :rock :rock :rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q52PLa1LueQ
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2012, 06:45:51 PM
What are the best games on the 3ds?

3ds seems like a complete waste. There are like zero pick up and play games that I'm finding interesting.

At most, I've got Shinobi and Samurai Warriors Chronicles to loo forward to.

It seems if I get a 3ds most of my time will be spent playing ds games or stuff from the virtual console shop.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2012, 07:04:46 PM
Mario 3d Land, I'm skeptical because I beat New Super Bros literally in one afternoon and I have an up and down relationship with the fat plumber. During pre-release media, I could kinda tell it wasn't my thing because it was employing an obscene amount of 3d gimmickry. I may get it some time, but not at full price. Mario Kart, I guess is an option, but I haven't really played Mario Kart in depth since 64. Pushmo looks okay, but not anything I'd plunk down bones for. Is there a Tetris or Meteos/Lumines like game? Or heck, a rad arcade racer?

What are good games coming to 3ds in the future?

Is the Layton/Phoenix Wright game coming out soon?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on February 27, 2012, 07:06:24 PM
I really like Mario 3D Land, but YMMV. (Prole hates it)

I got Tales of the Abyss because I never played it on PS2.

Pushmo is a perfectly good puzzle game at a very fine price.

I'll play through those and re-evaluate my feelings towards the system.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 27, 2012, 07:07:43 PM
i think kid icarus gets released on march since you like rail shooters? if you are really desperate you could buy starfox
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 27, 2012, 07:13:49 PM
apparently a bravely default demo hits in 2 days and i'm the only one giving a fuck

:rock :rock :rock me :rock :rock :rock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q52PLa1LueQ

Looking forward to it too. :)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 27, 2012, 07:19:00 PM
There are no 3D gimmicks or mechanics in any 3DS game because there can't be.

Zelda OoT 3DS is Zelda OoT 64 with better graphics (either an enhanced port or lazy remake, depending on how you classify it).  I really liked OoT and really liked OoT 3DS.  A lot of subtle gameplay improvements too just by adding more items on the touch screen, making boots items, and minor things like that.

Mario 3D Land is great. 

Resident Evil Revelations is good to great. 

Back at christmas Pilotwings was on sale for $5 and at that price (or up to $10 or 15) it's worth it.  It's fun but really lacks content.

Those're the only games I own/owned.  I played a bit of Mario Kart and it seemed good.  Starfox is Starfox 64; I like it, didn't feel like buying it at that price.

Heard good things about Pushmo, Ridge Racer, Ace Combat, and Shinobi.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2012, 07:25:34 PM
Oh right, I knew I was forgetting something and that's Resident Evil.

That brings my interest in games currently out to 5:

- Resident Evil Revelations
- Shinobi
- Samurai Warriors Chronicles
- Pushmo
- Ridge Racer or Mario Kart

I'm cautious about Ridge Racer because I hear it's just another Ridge Racers rehash except not as good.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2012, 08:40:36 PM
I own 10 3DS games (and 10 Vita games):

Mario 3DS - awesome awesome
Zelda OoT - why did I buy this, I played this game before. 
Re: Rev - haven't played it much, seems kind of iffy
Pushmo - ok game, worth the $5/6 for sure.
Musou - Switching characters is cool, but not being able to just pick a character and play is super lame; having to play as your own generic guy is lame; 15-20fps PS2 graphics
Pilotwings - fun for an hour
SSFIV - sucks ass, 3DS is not good for fighting game controls.  Why did I buy this?  Oh yeah, launch drought :(
Layton 5 - Hot hot hot stuff, need to finish #4 so I can play this
Gundam the 3d battle - ok C+ UC gundam action game; nostalgia
Beyond the Labyrinth - ok Etrian Odyssey extreme low budget dungeon crawler by Tri-ace.  I like it, but it's slow and many many floors of the same thing.

Will be buying Kid Icarus and Kingdom Hearts 3DS in the next month.  After that, there's nothing I'm interested in on the 3DS until the TBD stuff starts getting dates like Paper Mario, Fire Emblem, and still nothing much in the horizon besides those.

Right now I'd say the only games worth buying on the system are Mario, Mario Kart (if you like MK, I don't), Zelda (if you never played OoT, I have) and maybe RE.  Pushmo too since it's cheap.  But yeah, a year+ in and there's still barely enough titles to justify the system.  After playing the 3DS for a year, I've finished exactly 1 game on it (Mario) and technically I haven't even finished that one because I'm still going through the Special Worlds post-game.  Just not much compelling software there.  I'm sure it'll get better stuff next year.  Will try out the Bravely Default demo this week but I have a feeling that game is going to suck hard.


Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 27, 2012, 08:50:28 PM
I'm seriously considering Kid Icarus.  Controls are the main thing stopping me.  Everything else is looking good, well, except for how it looks.

again, Kingdom Hearts depends on impressions. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on February 27, 2012, 08:54:24 PM
Pushmo became boring really quick. I completed about maybe 30 of the puzzles and had no desire to keep going.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2012, 09:08:39 PM
pushmo does look like it'd get boring quick due to the push/pull aspect
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 27, 2012, 10:17:05 PM
Pushmo became boring really quick. I completed about maybe 30 of the puzzles and had no desire to keep going.

So it's like every non-action puzzle game then?

And by non-action I mean not like, Tetris.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on February 27, 2012, 10:17:57 PM
Crush, Devil Dice, Intelligent Qube don't get boring.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on February 27, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
Pushmo became boring really quick. I completed about maybe 30 of the puzzles and had no desire to keep going.

So it's like every non-action puzzle game then?

And by non-action I mean not like, Tetris.

So just because it's boring like other boring games that makes it okay? It was only like 6 bucks, I think I got my money's worth out of it
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 27, 2012, 10:38:04 PM
Crush, Devil Dice, Intelligent Qube don't get boring.

I got bored of some of those

and pushmo

/runs

I made a thread either here or on gaf about how puzzle games that have 100+ stages of doing the same puzzle types over and over personally get boring for me after a while and I never finish them even though I may really like their puzzles.  I was talking to a friend of mine and he's like "Yeah, that's the point.  You're not supposed to finish puzzle games.  They're just supposed to have hundreds of puzzles so you can pick them up for 5 mins here and there and do a new puzzle forever".  I dunno, I get annoyed when I can't "finish" games since I like seeing endings and then shelving games.  Hence why I don't play online competitive games.

But I definitely had more than $6 of fun out of Pushmo so I'm happy even if I never finish it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on February 28, 2012, 02:01:04 AM
That's actually a pretty good list. Thanks for highlighting Ridge Racer. I love the original Ridge Racers for psp and RR4. Some of the greatest arcade racers of all time, if you ask me. I missed on Ridge Racers 2 and haven't played RR for psp since launch thereabout, so RR 3ds seems worth looking into. It may sound stupid but I like that it has Donkey Kong 94. Fantastic game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2012, 02:21:26 AM
maybe I should pick up mario kart someday.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: maxy on February 28, 2012, 03:32:39 AM
nvm
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 28, 2012, 02:42:43 PM
I'm kinda shying away from retail titles because 40 DOLLARS, but I find eshop offerings have been pretty good.  You oughta find some good dsi puzzlers in the art style series.  Sakurai Samurai, VVVVVV, Mighty Switch Force, and Zen Pinball are all fun.

As far as retail goes, I've only put a lot of time into Ace Combat.  It has great mission variety and customizable jets, but its kinda ugly and prone to slowdown.  I still had a good time.  Only other games I'm interested in are Pilotwings (when cheap), Animal Crossing, and the inevitable smash and pokemon games.  I might pick up Rayman Origins 3d because autostereoscopic parralax scrolling is super sexy stuff to see in action.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on February 28, 2012, 03:14:43 PM
I'm curious.  What's the situation, graphics/power-wise? Could the 3DS easily pull off something like the iOS port of GTA3, or stuff like Infinity Blade?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 28, 2012, 05:06:23 PM
I think it could pull something off like Infinity Blade, but it would be obviously much jaggier and the models a bit crappier.  Just look at RE: Rev.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 28, 2012, 05:43:18 PM
Worse IQ, Lower resolution, worse textures.

Otherwise probably look close.  Would have better poly count I think.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on February 28, 2012, 05:46:54 PM
Infinity Blade couldn't.  GTA3, probably? Like others have said, the resolution of iOS devices is considerably greater than the 3DS and it probably wouldn't run as smooth.  While I never tried GTA3 on the iPhone 4, which is the minimum requirement I think, it runs very smooth on my 4S.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 29, 2012, 01:25:00 AM
It runs pretty well on my 4
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: archie4208 on February 29, 2012, 08:06:12 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/vnKD3.png)

It's like I'm really back in the 80s.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on February 29, 2012, 08:51:02 AM
I feel like we're not getting the whole picture here.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Rman on February 29, 2012, 11:10:08 AM
Picked up a 3ds.  Nice little system. 

You're a big portable gamer, Oscar.  What have been your favorites on the system so far?

edit: Forget it.  I saw the earlier post.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on February 29, 2012, 11:28:29 AM
Yeah, I can't see Nintendo actively pee arring a game like Isacc on the Eshop.  It looks like a cool game but it really goes out of its way to be crude.  Ed seems to pull the 'artistic integrity' card a lot, but its limiting the amount of people who can play his game.  Oh wait I got my refund today.  NEW COMPUTER.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on February 29, 2012, 03:32:34 PM
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needs to be patched or taken out of online

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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on February 29, 2012, 05:26:52 PM
the bravely default demo turned out to be another AR thingie

ACTUAL GAME SQUARE-ENIX,DO YOU SPEAK IT? :maf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jmix849t64
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on February 29, 2012, 07:09:32 PM
Yeah, I was going to try out the demo but duckroll told me they haven't even shown the battle system for the game let alone give us a demo to try it.  They're slowly leaking out information while being super vague and hiding all the important bits.

Shaaaaady.


I do not have faith in this game at all.  4 heroes of light 2 w/AR perv time.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on March 01, 2012, 12:22:52 AM
Was heading to pick up RE:R but was listening to Giant Bomb on the way and they couldn't stop shitting all over the game. I'm not a huge RE fan so it made me reconsider buying it at the time. I couldn't care less about the story and plot progression, so how are the actually core mechanics and mood/atmosphere?

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on March 01, 2012, 12:32:00 AM
Was heading to pick up RE:R but was listening to Giant Bomb on the way and they couldn't stop shitting all over the game. I'm not a huge RE fan so it made me reconsider buying it at the time. I couldn't care less about the story and plot progression, so how are the actually core mechanics and mood/atmosphere?

Really? The QL seemed pretty positive, they were more down on the CPPro than anything.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 01, 2012, 12:37:57 AM
Giant Bomb shitting on a Nintendo console game?  Shocking!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on March 01, 2012, 12:41:46 AM
Giant Bomb shitting on a Nintendo console game?  Shocking!
They all have insane boners for Rhythm Heaven Fever strangely enough.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on March 01, 2012, 12:43:18 AM
Giant Bomb shitting on a Nintendo console game?  Shocking!

They're not the only people I've listened to being unsatisfied with it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 01, 2012, 02:23:43 AM
I played half of RE4 and skipped RE5 entirely (I know, I know), but love me some classic RE and tank controls. So I have a feeling I'm gonna enjoy this game, but I'm wary of where/when the game takes place. Do I have to play the last two games to understand what's going on?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 01, 2012, 02:40:16 AM
I liked RE5 more than RER  :shh

It's in the bottom half of the series for me.  So if RE5 is at the bottom of top half, RER is the top of the bottom half...or something.  RE5 didn't have a lot of, uh, 'resident evil characteristics' but it had really fun combat.  RE:R is like old RE most of the time, and other times it feels like a generic linear shooter.  Wouldn't be so bad if RE:R combat was nearly as good as RE4 or 5, but instead it feels like third person code veronica.  Other bitching points are the swimming and enemy designs.  And loading times. 

It's a quality game.  I don't dislike any main RE game.  So bottom half just means it rolls with RE3 and Code Veronica.

It's a lengthy game too.  Close to 10 hours for the main campaign and a separate co-op Raid mode, which has you running through old levels and killing enemies for experience points and item drops.

I played half of RE4 and skipped RE5 entirely (I know, I know), but love me some classic RE and tank controls. So I have a feeling I'm gonna enjoy this game, but I'm wary of where/when the game takes place. Do I have to play the last two games to understand what's going on?

It takes place before RE5.  It's a completely irrelevant connection.  It's a stand alone story that manages to be slightly less stupid for foregoing real connections to the main RE plot, but still very, very stupid.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on March 01, 2012, 09:54:39 PM
MK7 dropped to 29.99 on amazon. Weird to see a first party N game go on sale this early after release
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on March 01, 2012, 10:00:00 PM
MK7 dropped to 29.99 on amazon. Weird to see a first party N game go on sale this early after release

it's probably a limited deal
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: chronovore on March 12, 2012, 12:53:19 PM
so what you're saying, brandnew, is that it's on sale?

good to have that cleared up.

 :lol

Coup-owned.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 12, 2012, 02:45:21 PM
How's MK7? I enjoyed the original MK and MK DS ... that's about it. The N64 and GCN versions could go fuck a duck.
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 12, 2012, 02:58:15 PM
I thought it was a great game. Nothing revolutionary about it, but they fine-tuned the mechanics and ended up with the best possible results. The physics feel great as always, the tracks are some of best in the series, the coins are back, and the 3D nice though not essential as with all 3DS games.

Customizing car parts is a nice addition but some are taking issue with how slow the parts unlock (using coins, but you can't earn more than 10 per race). Plus I heard a lot of bitching about the character cast.

I personally think its as good as the DS game*, then again I'm a big apologetic MK feg, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

* (it might end up being better or worse a year from now, after I spend more time with it )

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 12, 2012, 03:19:53 PM
Hmm, sounds worth $30! I didn't even play the Wii version enough to hate it. Stupid floaty bullllshit.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 12, 2012, 04:21:16 PM
Been playing the OG SMK for the first time lately and ... that is a great fucking game.  How close is it to that?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on March 12, 2012, 05:46:20 PM
Been playing the OG SMK for the first time lately and ... that is a great fucking game.  How close is it to that?

Its a lot better. Older mario karts are almost unplayable after getting used to the driving and physics of the newer games
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on March 14, 2012, 04:09:16 AM
Kid Icarus Pretentious Subtitle got 40/40 from Famitsu  :lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on March 14, 2012, 05:15:21 AM
Kid Icarus Pretentious Subtitle got 40/40 from Famitsu  :lol

it also got 8/10 from edge
another masterpiece from nintendo is coming :bow

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the line above is irony by the way
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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on March 14, 2012, 07:06:52 AM
The multi looks really good.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 14, 2012, 07:43:09 AM
Yeah, everything I've seen about the actual gameplay  looks interesting/good, but man is it buried in some poopoo.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 14, 2012, 01:51:21 PM
I'm close to buying Kid Icarus.  my main holdup are the controls, because my experiences with shooters on the DS were uncomfortable.  I saw yesterday that there are configurations without using the stylus.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on March 14, 2012, 03:21:32 PM
Yeah, everything I've seen about the actual gameplay  looks interesting/good, but man is it buried in some poopoo.

What poopoo is that? The cheesy presentation?

Can't have an onrails shooter without cheesy presentation.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on March 20, 2012, 08:41:21 PM
for all it's worth here's some horror stories about kid icarus control system

http://www.destructoid.com/review-kid-icarus-uprising-224073.phtml
http://www.gameinformer.com/games/kid_icarus_uprising_-_3ds/b/nintendo_ds/archive/2012/03/19/kid-icarus-uprising-review-poor-controls-ground-pit-39-s-ambitious-return.aspx

i'm amused by the fact that the games comes with a stand
"ehy guys,we know it doesn't work,but here's something to make it work a little more" :lol

still i'm confused... can't this be played with the 2nd analog stick anyway? ???

EDIT: http://noble-press.com/2012/01/kid-icarus-stand/

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Unfortunately, the Kid Icarus developers are only utilizing the circle pad pro for left handed gamers. They can invert the control scheme and use the right hand for holding the 3DS and left hand for stylus. Which just seems to exaserbate the problem because the 3DS is heavier and the right hand has to hold more weight.

:rofl
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on March 20, 2012, 08:49:08 PM
Think I'm going to pass on KI because of the controls. I usually play the 3DS while laying down, not sure where I'd use a stand
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 20, 2012, 09:15:19 PM
Well, since I'm left-handed I am glad.

/game is still getting backlogged like RE:R cause I don't have time to play it anytime soon.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 21, 2012, 12:50:03 AM
I've decided to get Kid Icarus.  Controls are pretty darn important but if that's the only real negative aspect of the game, it sounds like the overall package ends up positive.

Thing I don't get about the controls is how customization they are yet, from what I understand, there's a turok control scheme but no support for standard dual analog with the circle pad pro.  I don't see why it would be so difficult to support a comfortable control scheme.  But whatever.  I didn't stop playing Metroid Prime Hunters because of the controls; it was just a bad game.

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 21, 2012, 01:21:00 AM
way i figure, if i got used to gun valkyrie, i'm sure i can get used to this.  if it's worth getting used to, anyway.  still very much on the fence about this.

Gun Valkyrie :rock is why I have carpal tunnel :rock
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 21, 2012, 01:42:20 AM
I had money left after trade ins so, sure, why not. I was always gonna give in, there was no point in fighting it.  Hopefully using a circle pad instead of a dpad will avoid the hand cramp issues I had with Hunters.  Speaking of which I got to try the vita today, didn't really appreciate the analog placement there.  The bottom of my thumbs kept bumping into them.
Title: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on March 21, 2012, 04:34:12 AM
Yeah, I was going to pass on Kid Icarus *SUDDENLY* I preordered it and the (as of now) rare circle pro pad.

Speaking of which I got to try the vita today, didn't really appreciate the analog placement there.  The bottom of my thumbs kept bumping into them.

I was having the same issue when I was playing Wipeout, and it annoyed me to the point of taking a break from the game.

Using the classic control scheme of X to accel and square to shoot was what exposed the annoyance of the placement. But I don't know what happened afterwards, I guess I just got used to it, considering how I forgot I had this issue until you mentioned it.

Speaking of analogs: I was also down on the analog themselves up until I started playing some of that sweet, sweet Super Statdust a few days ago. Who knew that all it takes to fairly judge them is a good game with tight controls. WHO KNEW?!

But still, if I had to pick the better analog scheme out of the two, I'd say the 3DS' still has a slight edge. Although it might only take one more game with good controls to close that small gap.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 21, 2012, 09:52:51 AM
It is getting hard to hold off on buying a 3DS but I must be disciplined and wait for the revision.  Any thoughts on when it might come?  I'm 100% sure it will be this year and I doubt it'll be anywhere near the Wii U launch so I'm guessing in the next three or four months but I dunno.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 21, 2012, 11:25:32 AM
Oscar, exactly, that's why I caved and bought a 3DS earlier this month - the system's great for Super Mario 3D Land and, uh, oh God. This is why 3DS owners seriously contemplate buying Kid Icarus, isn't it?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: demi on March 21, 2012, 11:38:44 AM
I'm hoping for a revision as well. Nothing at E3? Buying one next day.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on March 21, 2012, 11:43:33 AM
I think if it were coming this year (especially in the next 3-4 months) they would *certainly* have announced it before they announced their year-end results.  My gut tells me they're going to try to stand on the existing 3DS til next spring.

I think they'll drop to $150 before then and then yeah, next spring, revision.

But will it have two circle pads? That's the question.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 21, 2012, 11:48:23 AM
There's a lot that needs improving past a second analog.  but instead of a revision, nintendo could just introduce another model to sell alongside the existing one, like the DSi XL to the DSi.  The current $170 and a $200+ premium model.

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 21, 2012, 12:34:30 PM
Yeah, I was going to pass on Kid Icarus *SUDDENLY* I preordered it and the (as of now) rare circle pro pad.

Speaking of which I got to try the vita today, didn't really appreciate the analog placement there.  The bottom of my thumbs kept bumping into them.

I was having the same issue when I was playing Wipeout, and it annoyed me to the point of taking a break from the game.

Using the classic control scheme of X to accel and square to shoot was what exposed the annoyance of the placement. But I don't know what happened afterwards, I guess I just got used to it, considering how I forgot I had this issue until you mentioned it.

Speaking of analogs: I was also down on the analog themselves up until I started playing some of that sweet, sweet Super Statdust a few days ago. Who knew that all it takes to fairly judge them is a good game with tight controls. WHO KNEW?!

But still, if I had to pick the better analog scheme out of the two, I'd say the 3DS' still has a slight edge. Although it might only take one more game with good controls to close that small gap.

I still think they should have gone with that prototype image that had the two analogs above the dpad and button diamond. 

Doesn't the current circle pad pro need to be detected by individual games?  Its gonna be a little messy if they introduce a new model with a second analog.  Furthermore I don't see an elegant way of incorporating those extra shoulder buttons.  At this point, I think they would rather revise the circle pad pro itself so its not a clumsy peripheral.

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 21, 2012, 02:04:40 PM
I'm gonna wait a week or two for REAL TALK about the controls: are they "awkward" or "game-destroying"?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 21, 2012, 02:23:06 PM
have you ever played Metroid Prime Hunters or any shooter in the DS? or Star Fox command?

the controls are actually good in theory, but make the DS/3DS uncomfortable to hold and use.  it should fall into awkward, unless you're left handed.

basically you're moving with the analog, shooting with the L button, and aiming with the touch screen.  you're mostly supporting the system with three fingers; that's why a stand is included.  a finger stylus like the one included with the original DS can help.  if the 3ds had a capacative screen the control scheme would've been great.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on March 21, 2012, 05:00:06 PM
Starfox command was okay, its just that the games that require the shoulder button make it uncomfortable to hold.  Command and Ninja Gaiden DS had similar control schemes that worked well because you could use any button.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 22, 2012, 10:28:53 PM
Price'll go up on a revision regardless.  They kind of need it to.

I think it's going to have to be a bit bigger, to accommodate a larger battery.  That and the second stick should be enough for the first revision.

Are there 3D screens with wider viewing angles now?  That seems like it would be a nice change cos people have strong words to say about the sweet spot.

So I don't know what happened over the last couple of days, but I'm thinking seriously about buying one of these.  I don't suppose there's any chance of being able to transfer VC games and stuff to later revisions.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Howard Alan Treesong on March 22, 2012, 11:10:06 PM
if you own both systems at the same time, you can do a system transfer

if you register your downloads with Club Nintendo, you may be able to restore independently, too
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 22, 2012, 11:13:59 PM
That's ... a lot better than I expected.  I will now download Balloon Kid without fear, thanx!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on March 22, 2012, 11:49:55 PM
if you own both systems at the same time, you can do a system transfer

if you register your downloads with Club Nintendo, you may be able to restore independently, too

Not at this point, but I think it may happen when Nintendo announces a revision. They want people to double dip and they know people won't just leave their digital libraries behind.

But yeah, it is amusing when I see people realize "oh, you can do system transfers on 3DS? That's so un-Nintendo!" :P
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on March 23, 2012, 03:28:14 PM
Kid Icarus Awakening is $30 at Best Buy


also, Kid Icarus is still a bad game.  I got the code to download the 3D Classic on 3dsware and time has only made it worse. 

Excited to play the new one later today.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on March 27, 2012, 02:55:34 PM
I guess I really should buy a 3DS now, I got two games for the thing but no way to play them. :P

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The games in question are OoT 3D (Amazon sale) and TotA (feared it only getting one print and being impossible to find again.
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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on March 27, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
I guess I really should buy a 3DS now, I got two games for the thing but no way to play them. :P

spoiler (click to show/hide)
The games in question are OoT 3D (Amazon sale) and TotA (feared it only getting one print and being impossible to find again.
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Why don't you own one?  You have a job and love Nintendo.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on March 27, 2012, 05:33:50 PM
I dunno, been buying other stuff while the 3DS library builds up. Was really close to getting it when RE Rev came out, that for me (combined with SM3DL and MK7) was the tipping point, that 3DS had graduated from launch-era to swing-of-things-era.

Anyways yeah, I'll probably get one soon, maybe even next week depending on how things go, although my older sister's birthday is coming up and I really want to go all out (for her and everyone in my family.)

I do keep forgetting 3DS is only $170 though, I walk around <insert 3DS-selling store here> and think, "Do I really wanna drop $250- oh, wait, it's not that price anymore." :lol

Mario Kart 7 is the best Mario Kart ever IMO, so as a rabid Nintendo fan, yes you should!!

As long as it was MK DS with better graphics and better online that was always going to be the case! (MK Wii doesn't fit the criteria by virtue of the fact it's kinda different from MKDS, mostly being on a console.)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Cerveza mas fina on March 27, 2012, 05:56:46 PM
170 is still way too much, would think about it for 99.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on March 27, 2012, 07:13:07 PM
They brought back coins, which makes it automatically better than non-coin Mario Karts.  Why the fuck they would ever drop them I don't know.  It's like shipping a jigsaw with a missing piece.
I don't like drifting in this one though - you don't have to commit to it like in the SNES/GBA games.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 04, 2012, 01:33:10 AM
I played about an hour of Kingdom Hearts DDD tonight and it left me wondering what the point of the circle pad was?  The game plays MUCH worse with circle pad enabled.  This is because when you're in the middle of battle, it's way faster to double click L to center the camera or tap L/R to rotate the camera than to take your right thumb off the main buttons mid-fighting and try to slowly move the camera where you want it to be.  Because the camera is too close and the action is too fast, you're always having to move the camera like NG and so quick-centering is king.

The design of the circle pad just seems pretty junky from the 30 mins of RE:R I played (awkward aiming) and hour of KH (slow useless camera).  At least it was only like $20.  But it seems like a pointless add-on so far to me.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on April 04, 2012, 10:51:00 AM
Kingdom Hearts is out? Forgive my ignorance, but what kind of game is it? Turn based, action? Is it hard? I'm thinking the kidlet would probably like it

it's out in japan,you have never played a single kingdom hearts game? this is like the 6th one
anyway it's an action rpg,you get to punch captain hook in the face and really that's all you need to know
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on April 04, 2012, 11:14:49 AM
I played about an hour of Kingdom Hearts DDD tonight and it left me wondering what the point of the circle pad was?  The game plays MUCH worse with circle pad enabled.  This is because when you're in the middle of battle, it's way faster to double click L to center the camera or tap L/R to rotate the camera than to take your right thumb off the main buttons mid-fighting and try to slowly move the camera where you want it to be.  Because the camera is too close and the action is too fast, you're always having to move the camera like NG and so quick-centering is king.

The design of the circle pad just seems pretty junky from the 30 mins of RE:R I played (awkward aiming) and hour of KH (slow useless camera).  At least it was only like $20.  But it seems like a pointless add-on so far to me.

It helped a lot in the MGS3 demo.  The aiming problem you mentioned in RE:R, I'd describe it as sluggish, is pretty much gone in MGS3.  It was just badly implemented in RE:R.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on April 04, 2012, 11:31:16 AM
how old is he?

you are never too old for kingdom hearts :-[
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 04, 2012, 11:48:48 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/5SWzn.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/vU1My.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/YGFMP.png)

Who needs HD lololol (http://www.nintendo-master.com/xtnews/news-30230_premieres_images_officielles_pour_epic_mickey__power_of_illusion.htm)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on April 04, 2012, 11:51:12 AM
he should be fine then.  and the content will definitely please.

magoose, i was concerned about him being too young, not too old, you re-re.

i know but i wanted to ruin any early joke :smug

(http://i.imgur.com/5SWzn.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/vU1My.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/YGFMP.png)

Who needs HD lololol

that looks nice but to be fair neither hatsworth or monster tale were that good,it's probably better than the console version anyway
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on April 04, 2012, 12:00:51 PM
Look boring tbh

Spencer adding the .5 to the kiddos age  :lol
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 04, 2012, 12:21:19 PM
http://beta.html5test.com/results/gaming.html

This is hilarious to me for some reason.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Huff on April 04, 2012, 12:34:36 PM
while currently childless my cousins are in that age where the .5 is extremely important

just thought it was funny its so built in to daddy that he has to add it at all times
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 04, 2012, 01:39:07 PM
http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/6ywsFO7IfWNj2CW_AxMRlXyZM6v9t8jZ
This looks pretty cool.  Its basically the wiiware version of Thruspace dressed up with an aztec theme and I assume controls that are more suitable this time around. Its coming out in Europe this week so the US release should be imminent.  Also looking forward to the colors 3d app.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 05, 2012, 08:51:33 PM
Colors 3d is wonderful.  At first I thought the process of managing the separate 3d layers would be cumbersome and a little confusing but.. well it is at first.  But a quick tutorial and some brute force experimentation later and the whole thing is one of the most elegant drawing/painting programs I've used.  Its like having a portable photoshop. I've already put up a quick and dirty piece and I'll try to see if I can link for it to be viewed in the 3ds browser.

hmmmm well here's the link, not sure if there's a way to view it in 3d without paying for the program and viewing it on the 3ds.
http://colorslive.com/details/60790-dance_of_the_suneaters_by_emceegramr.php

I'm aware my clouds suck.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 05, 2012, 10:36:06 PM
That's actually a pretty awesome drawing. I had no idea it's out, I've never tried the homebrew or the iOS app. Is it just a drawing app, or is there a meta-game and social aspect to it like Swapnote? Also, how much?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 05, 2012, 10:40:44 PM
I think it was about 8 dollars after tax.  Uhhh, I wouldn't be looking for a metagame here.  Its mostly just creating your own stuff, uploading it to the server where it can be viewed by other folks.  You can browse their database and comment/like stuff and it has the swapnote feature where you can view a recording of the creation process.  There's a co-op painting mode for local but really when is it that gonna happen.

Wait, you can export to the sd card, which means you can use it with swapnote.  Furthermore you can import photos to draw on.
The database is horrid sonichu manchild stuff atm.  There are a batch of professional work done that have amazing use of the 3d layering,

This... really expands your options when going for a successful composition.  Stuff that is a no no on a regular drawing/painting/work can be acceptable when the z axis comes into play.

 On my 3ds the shadowy figure looks like its in the distance behind the wall.  I dunno why the foreground duder has a red outline after I uploaded it.
http://colorslive.com/details/64611-culture_clash_by_emceegramr.php
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 21, 2012, 12:14:48 AM
So even though I hate the 3DS hardware and wish nothing but the pox on Nintendo for being so cheap with it, with the announcement of NSMB2 in August, I've got to say that seeing Nintendo go into full gear WE NEED TO MAKE SOME VIDEOGAMES AGAIN mode for the first time in a decade has been pretty awesome.  Desperate Nintendo is actually a Nintendo I like, if they had put half as much effort into Wii software as they are doing into 3DS software right now, maybe the Core gamer crowd wouldn't have left the Wii in droves.  For a first place console, Wii software after 5-6 years is a barren wasteland.

MK7 -> Mario 3DS -> Icarus -> FE -> NSMB2, nice roll so far.  Throw in Paper Mario, F-Zero and a new Metroid game in the following months and I will like the 3DS.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 21, 2012, 12:24:15 AM
I don't think they're desperate anymore, or had any less aggressive plans before sales slowed down, but that's just me.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 21, 2012, 12:26:22 AM
NSMB2 has absolutely awful presentation.  It's so simple but somehow manages to look offensive.  I know this isn't a new observation, and I don't care.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 12:42:48 AM
Desperate Nintendo is actually a Nintendo I like, if they had put half as much effort into Wii software as they are doing into 3DS software right now, maybe the Core gamer crowd wouldn't have left the Wii in droves.

Eh, "fat" Nintendo during the Wii's heyday was pretty good I thought. But I'm me. Prime 3, Kart, SMG, WarioWare, Super Paper Mario, Wario Land, Brawl all out within the first 1.5 years was awesome to see. Then there was kind of a gap until NSMBW/Sin and Punishment 2/Metroid Other M/Epic Yarn/SMG2/Kirby's Adventure/Xenoblade/Skyward Sword. Third parties had their chance in that gap but they blew it.

For a first place console, Wii software after 5-6 years is a barren wasteland.

That's why third parties left (I think they really started leaving at the end of the third year.) But Nintendo was always going to be scarce with output for it as the big 5 started drawing closer. Nintendo is hardwired to think that home console generations last five years, not more, not less, no matter how good or how bad things get. As Oscar said in another thread, Nintendo's putting more stock into Wii U (and 3DS too, of course, in fact that seems like their primary platform right now, as it should probably be.)

MK7 -> Mario 3DS -> Icarus -> FE -> NSMB2, nice roll so far.  Throw in Paper Mario, F-Zero and a new Metroid game in the following months and I will like the 3DS.

Don't forget MH 3G, MH4, Luigi's Mansion, and Animal Crossing into the mix.

NSMB2 has absolutely awful presentation.  It's so simple but somehow manages to look offensive.  I know this isn't a new observation, and I don't care.

I think it looks worse artistically than the Wii version, but I also know seeing it in compressed screens won't be doing it justice. In motion and in 3D it's probably above decent, maybe even... good. We'll have to see come August.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 21, 2012, 12:50:15 AM
NSMB: DS was awful, and I'm not holding out much hope for this one.

They should have made this for the Wii, instead.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 12:56:46 AM
Why try to prop up a lifeless corpse when you can deliver nail in the coffin of your rival?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 21, 2012, 12:57:47 AM
I do think it's funny how they are ignoring that NSMB DS ever happened. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 21, 2012, 01:06:27 AM
Why try to prop up a lifeless corpse when you can deliver nail in the coffin of your rival?
I doubt this will affect the Vita at all.  Besides, nailing the coffin shut on the Vita is just a formality at this point.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 21, 2012, 01:12:28 AM
I do think it's funny how they are ignoring that NSMB DS ever happened.

Doesn't the addition of the "2" in the new game's title sorta show the opposite?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 01:27:22 AM
Why try to prop up a lifeless corpse when you can deliver nail in the coffin of your rival?
I doubt this will affect the Vita at all.  Besides, nailing the coffin shut on the Vita is just a formality at this point.

Obviously, it won't affect Vita in the "Vita owners will sell their systems the week this comes out" sense, I mean, most of the people who like Mario probably don't even know the Vita exists. (And I say that honestly, the marketing is fricking terrible, even for Sony.) Just in a general "it's selling a lot of units, therefore expanding the playerbase, therefore making it more favorable to devs looking at either system to develop for" sense.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 21, 2012, 01:28:30 AM
Speaking of Vita, how exactly is doing, vis-a-vis the 3DS?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 21, 2012, 01:33:08 AM
STFU Oblivion, you know exactly how badly it's performing.

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:bawl
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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 01:33:46 AM
Speaking of Vita, how exactly is doing, vis-a-vis the 3DS?

Sub-9k weeks in Japan and a mildly weak launch in NA don't paint a pretty picture, to say the least.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 21, 2012, 01:36:24 AM
STFU Oblivion, you know exactly how bad it's performing.

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:bawl
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I actually don't. :(

I haven't followed sales much at all for a while now. I heard random blurbs last year about the 3DS seemingly performing underwhelmingly after launch, but that's about it.

Speaking of Vita, how exactly is doing, vis-a-vis the 3DS?

Sub-9k weeks in Japan and a mildly weak launch in NA don't paint a pretty picture, to say the least.

Damn...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 21, 2012, 01:49:59 AM
3DS, so exciting people can't stop talking about other handhelds in its threads.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 21, 2012, 01:54:46 AM
3DS, so exciting people can't stop talking about other handhelds in its threads.

You were just bitching about people talking about 3DS in the Vita thread.  I'm guessing this was supposed to be a joke, but you seem genuinely butthurt so it's pretty 50/50.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 21, 2012, 01:55:45 AM
I do think it's funny how they are ignoring that NSMB DS ever happened.

Doesn't the addition of the "2" in the new game's title sorta show the opposite?

I think you are forgetting there was a Wii one as well that went on and sold a billion copies. This is technically NSMB3.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Eel O'Brian on April 21, 2012, 02:00:17 AM
Did I come in here to talk shit about something I don't own?  I'm sorry, I must be Andrex.

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not butthurt, sweetie, i have talked more shit about the vita than anyone else in that thread

this place is genuinely getting shittied up by stuff like this, just thought i'd give ya a taste
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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 21, 2012, 02:05:18 AM
I do think it's funny how they are ignoring that NSMB DS ever happened.

Doesn't the addition of the "2" in the new game's title sorta show the opposite?

I think you are forgetting there was a Wii one as well that went on and sold a billion copies. This is technically NSMB3.

No, it's the DS one that I'd like to forget about.

Speaking of Vita, how exactly is doing, vis-a-vis the 3DS?

In America, it's about 5.5 million to about 400k, but last month they sold nearly the same amount.  In Japan, it's about 7 million to 475k, and last week was something like 65k to 8k.  In Europe, nobody knoooooooooooows so the Vita is probably at 15 million and the 3DS is at 2.

Ah, grazie.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on April 21, 2012, 04:05:40 AM
2? but we have already 3?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd2gtBhgwQM

oh wait? that's just an hack? i'm sorry they are hard to distinguish :teehee
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 05:03:59 PM
I ain't paying anything until Himuro Plinko is put on the front page. It's been like six months FFS.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 21, 2012, 07:48:05 PM
my metal gear solid 3ds case commited harry karry and fell into the bin and me mum mustve threw it away. suitable for the piece of shit game it is on this mediocre system. worse that my super maridio land 3ds was in the case :piss
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 21, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
You live with your mother?  Shocking.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 21, 2012, 07:55:33 PM
yes but its not pathetic cuz im young
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 08:57:55 PM
yes but its not pathetic cuz im young

:lol

I'm out on my own, for comparison.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 21, 2012, 09:15:09 PM
im prob younger than u andrex and not all of us have trust funds to rely on.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 09:19:58 PM
im prob younger than u andrex and not all of us have trust funds to rely on.

How old are you? (Not mentally.)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 10:13:43 PM
Wow man I had no idea. :'( Keep trucking dude, I'm sure you'll get a break.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 21, 2012, 10:14:29 PM
im 14
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 10:14:55 PM
Although I do take offense at that trust funds comment, my family has become pretty poor in the last four years and the fact I've become as well off as I am practically overnight is purely a chance miracle.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: demi on April 21, 2012, 10:53:37 PM
You aren't a special case, Andrex. Just be prepared when they decide to leech off you.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 21, 2012, 10:57:42 PM
It's more likely I'd give freely before they'd ever need to come to me for handouts. Just this weekend I got a Vaio and an iPhone for my two sisters.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: demi on April 21, 2012, 11:01:08 PM
Then you better hope you believe in good karma. I would have let them rot.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on April 21, 2012, 11:12:16 PM
My Dad wanted me to lend him $10,000 for a pie in the sky business proposition (and another $15,000 later when this idea would really take off).  I told him the only way I'd do that is if we got a payment agreement drafted by a lawyer.  He got pissed, refused, borrowed the money from someone else, lost it, stiffed the lender, and is now working a part time job, effectively leaving his early retirement.

Beware Andrex....
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 12:08:20 AM
Then you better hope you believe in good karma. I would have let them rot.

My family is a good family. I love all of them and they all love me. :)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on April 22, 2012, 09:01:08 AM
i like the fact that they are doing luigi mansion 2,the original was an okay game,not bad but not that good either but it was nintendo finaly doing something different,plus i dig professor e.gadd,he should deserve way more screen time than fucking bowser jr.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdWhnhl-Gpk

anyway there are a lot of nice third party game coming like bravely default and guild 01 so i'm not sure why we are talking about lame nintendo games like the Xth shitty iteration of animal crossing :wtf
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 22, 2012, 11:57:13 AM
i like the fact that they are doing luigi mansion 2,the original was an okay game,not bad but not that good either but it was nintendo finaly doing something different,plus i dig professor e.gadd,he should deserve way more screen time than fucking bowser jr.

anyway there are a lot of nice third party game coming like bravely default and guild 01 so i'm not sure why we are talking about lame nintendo games like the Xth shitty iteration of animal crossing :wtf

Luigi 1 was an decent game until you go to that "we had to ship this" 50-ghost hunt rubbish.

That made me rage pretty hard.  Too bad, because a ghost fishing robotron-ish game with graphic adventure elements is about the best thing ever on paper.  Still, I'm glad they are makin a sequel cos there is fertile ground there - but the original had an awful lot of flaws for such a slight, basic game so they need to give a shit.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on April 22, 2012, 12:30:26 PM
It's really weird cuz it didn't sell nearly that well in other regions.  I guess America loves the underdog.

Wasn't Luigi's Mansion bundled a lot? Or do your figures not include bundled sales?
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 12:53:07 PM
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Don't forget MH 3G, MH4, Luigi's Mansion, and Animal Crossing into the mix.

couple of things -

MH 3G - it's not coming to 3DS, sorry.
MH 4 - trailer was garbage, need to see whether they are about to shit on the franchise
LM - erm
AC - ...

I meant sales-wise, sorry if that didn't match up to the post I quoted lol.

LM2 is gonna be aawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwweeesome. If they ever release.

Also gtfo with your 3G trolling, schtick's gotten old.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 01:03:01 PM
That made me rage pretty hard.  Too bad, because a ghost fishing robotron-ish game with graphic adventure elements is about the best thing ever on paper.  Still, I'm glad they are makin a sequel cos there is fertile ground there - but the original had an awful lot of flaws for such a slight, basic game so they need to give a shit.

Isn't it in the hands of the Battalion Wars 2 and Mario Strikers guys? Personally I think it'll be fantastic... if it ever comes out.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 01:46:54 PM
I'm trying to remember but I think I remember the marketing being really effective. Plus GC had some hype and since it was a "kid's console" it's logical the premiere "kid game" at launch sold well.

But I <3 Luigi's Mansion. I've always preferred Luigi, even to the point of playing Mario's Missing. :-\ I remember shouting "finally!" when I heard he was getting his own game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on April 22, 2012, 01:49:59 PM
I was a kid when the GC was alive, but did Nintendo actively try to build the children's audience? I remember a lot of animu based kids games had GC-exclusive entries (Zoids, Beyblade, Medabots, etc.) and that always seemed odd to me. Though, the overwhelming majority of those games were trash as I'd soon find out.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 22, 2012, 01:51:43 PM
the 3ds is the worst console i've ever owned, and thats saying something considering I owned a dreamcast
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Momo on April 22, 2012, 01:53:57 PM
the 3ds is the worst console i've ever owned, and thats saying something considering I owned a dreamcast
The hell is this?  :maf
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 01:55:02 PM
the 3ds is the worst console i've ever owned, and thats saying something considering I owned a dreamcast
The hell is this?  :maf

Methodis has bad taste, etc.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 22, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
the 3ds is horrible though. no games, bad ports. hoping paper mario saves it.

im also still really pissed that i lost the MGS3 case and it had super maridio land in it :piss
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 22, 2012, 06:09:40 PM
this will all make sense later this week and you can apologise then.

Do you know something or are you acting like you know something? And how are you privy to such information? Answers please. I accept PMs as well.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 22, 2012, 06:38:47 PM
lol MHP3rdG for PSP incoming.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on April 22, 2012, 06:55:34 PM
GameWave redeemed.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
Can't wait for Vita owners to spin that Portable 3rd HD is SO MUCH BETTER than 3G and probably 4. One of my Sony friends I keep on a leash is convinced it's SO MUCH BETTER because you can transfer save files or something? :lol Great bullet point for the back of the box there.

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Both games I haven't played sorta... though I'm waste deep in Tri.
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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Oblivion on April 22, 2012, 09:04:50 PM
I'm always shocked when I look at Luigi's Mansion's North American sales.  Somehow I always seem to forget how fucking crazy it sold.  Some fun comparisons:

Number of titles per platform that sold better in NA than Luigi's Mansion:

Microsoft Fam-fam
Xbox: 2

Wiki says LM sold around 2.1 million units in NA. It really can't be that 2 games (both of which I'm assuming are Halo) cracked that number in NA? I mean, not even Forza? No other major third party game?

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Gamecube: 4

I'm guessing:

-SSBM
-Mario Kart: DD
-Super Mario Sunshine
-I wanna say....Wind Waker?

This is both impressive and utterly, utterly depressing.


Furthermore, LM got 348k in Japan, and although no European numbers are present, it's reasonable to think that including that, the game would crack 3 million WW. I never thought it'd be even close to spitting distance to Mario Sunshine  (around 5-6 mil).
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 22, 2012, 09:17:15 PM
sunshien bombed
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: demi on April 22, 2012, 09:21:45 PM
Gamecube :bow

I picked up Evolution Worlds and 007 Everything or Nothing recently. Can't stop wont stop
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: MyNameIsMethodis on April 22, 2012, 09:24:06 PM
lolmfw you dont pirate gamecube games
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: demi on April 22, 2012, 09:27:08 PM
Piracy free since '03
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 09:35:56 PM
Quote
Can't wait for Vita owners to spin that Portable 3rd HD is SO MUCH BETTER than 3G and probably 4. One of my Sony friends I keep on a leash is convinced it's SO MUCH BETTER because you can transfer save files or something?  Great bullet point for the back of the box there.

3rd P -is- better than the Wii version - it gets rid of the shitty underwater stages whilst adding extras including monsters, extra weapons, and getting rid of the fluff of the village/harvesting down into a quicker, tighter package. 3G is arguably "better" than 3rd P as it looks better, the Z-axis helps people like me who play as great swords men, the warping Nagura is ZOMG, but it still retains the bloat of the Wii version. But it's issue is that there's no player copy over from Tri or 3rd P which basically forces established players to repeat X hundred hours of content. I've started 3G but i'm less than thrilled having to repeat play but hey - i realise that this is what it is.

the P games are absolutely honed for portables - 3G is an outsourced port of the Wii game and it shows - the tutorials are wordy and overly long which are not suited to a portable. That said - i appreciate this is a quickly thrown together effort to help establish MH on the Nintendo platform :D

Anyways - if you do not understand why going between a regular and a G revision requires the ability to import your save file then you have absolutely no business in monster hunter discussion threads. This isn't just you, but a whole slew of overly excited Nintendo fans who know absolutely FUCK ALL about the series and are trying to position themselves as experts because a OMG SALES FAP FAP FAP series is coming there way. I can tell you now - there's people excited for 3G who are going to absolutely fucking HATE it when they finally play it.

Umm, I've cut my teeth on Tri as I've mentioned in my post. I'm a relative series newbie, but as Oscar said, more Nintendo fans have turned out for Monster Hunter than Sony fans.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 22, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
So what you're saying is US Monster Hunter Tri G is an up-ressed WiiU launch title?  Makes sense.  Take advantage of launch, the controller suits the series well, dual analog, probably a more serviceable online service.  Maybe crosscompatibility with the 3ds game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 22, 2012, 10:06:09 PM
Your post was edited after panicking.  Quick someone post on gaf that industry sources have revealed what's been really going on.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on April 22, 2012, 10:22:50 PM
Only thing I can garner from the MH posts is that Capcom sure does make a lot of iterations of the same game. Also dunno why anyone should give a fuck when PSO2 is coming to the master race this summer. :hyper
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 22, 2012, 10:28:14 PM
Probably gonna be a free to play scam.  Enjoy your descent.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on April 22, 2012, 10:38:48 PM
Probably gonna be a free to play scam.  Enjoy your descent.

I'd buy a bunch of shit just to give SEGA money. I fear the Sammy chopping block.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 22, 2012, 10:42:51 PM
Sega really needs a good kick in the ass imo.  Not death or nothing.  I'm still stupified that when NSMBwii sold 20 million copies they didn't seriously consider doing a 2d sonic NOT OUTSOURCED TO DIMPS AKJALJGKLAJG;KLAJF;LKAJG;LKAJG;LKAJG;KLAJ
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 22, 2012, 10:42:57 PM
I'll say it again - you want to guaranteed play MH? Buy Nintendo hardware.

??? Fine by me?

I think you really are becoming senile.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on April 22, 2012, 10:56:15 PM
Probably gonna be a free to play scam.  Enjoy your descent.
Hah, there's no probably about it. Want your own room? You can have one for a month for cheap! Or you can buy a perma-room for even moar! Most of the for sale shit is cosmetic nonsense, but I'm sure they'll have uber-weaponry and such up before to long.
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Still better than MH though since that only appears on archaic tech
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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on April 22, 2012, 11:11:51 PM
Sega really needs a good kick in the ass imo.  Not death or nothing.  I'm still stupified that when NSMBwii sold 20 million copies they didn't seriously consider doing a 2d sonic NOT OUTSOURCED TO DIMPS AKJALJGKLAJG;KLAJF;LKAJG;LKAJG;LKAJG;KLAJ

Do you trust internal SEGA to make a good 2D Sonic game? They've struggled making decent 3D Sonic games for many years.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 23, 2012, 12:53:30 AM
AC is the best relaxation sim this side of Endless Ocean but even I've grown tired with it. Put 100s of hours into the original and WW, but have put probably less than 10 into CF. Maybe I'm just growing up.  :-*

Either that or I don't have time to waste like I used to... part of me is hoping the 3DS one isn't any good because then I can write off not playing it easily, otherwise I'll feel some mad guilt. :fbm
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on April 23, 2012, 01:06:01 AM
TBH I don't even know if I'd buy 3G without online. Without it, it's kinda "what's the point"ish. Love going online with GAFers in Tri.

That reminds me, I should rally some of them again, it's been a couple weeks since our last hunt.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Momo on April 23, 2012, 01:09:46 AM
Phantasy Star Online and Monster Hunter are my two most played games ever. It's looking good to be a fan of these two series going forward, just wish Capcom would cancel MonHun 4 and put it on a console where it belongs, but eh can't have everything.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on April 23, 2012, 01:13:47 AM
Phantasy Star Online and Monster Hunter are my two most played games ever. It's looking good to be a fan of these two series going forward, just wish Capcom would cancel MonHun 4 and put it on a console where it belongs, but eh can't have everything.
Closest thing to current gen MH on the horizon is Dragon's Dogma but that's single player only. Since it's kind of a thinly veiled MH beta maybe next year, when the current machines will be on their way to being old tech... :o
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Momo on April 23, 2012, 01:16:17 AM
Yeah the Dragons Dogma SP design seems silly in the face of MonHuns success and actually having NPCs following you around.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Momo on April 23, 2012, 01:24:16 AM
There hasnt been a WiiU version announced :-\

Wouldnt mind if they move MH4 to WiiU, the first iteration of a new MonHun has always been a console game :-\
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on April 24, 2012, 03:52:56 PM
Apparently Might Switch Force is getting a free update with 5 more levels.  Still kind of paltry but its a nice gesture.  I wouldn't mind paying for dlc in the long run.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on April 24, 2012, 05:02:55 PM
Capcom ain't going to make an exclusive HD Monster Hunter. That shit will be everywhere. I don't think they're that big of bros with Nintendo.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on April 24, 2012, 07:02:35 PM
I finally finished Mario 3DS Special World mostly (because world 8 is stupid with its coin payment required for every goddamn stage; I got all coins on normal world, but fuck all coins on some of these special world stages) because of Segata's nagging months ago.

Special World is like 50% good levels, and 50% stupid shitty levels.  A lot of the shadow mario x timer stages are terrible.  All the stages where the camera is at some weird isometric or top-down angle making judging jump landings difficult are pretty bad too.  And a lot of the levels are just the same but with shadow mario or 30 second timer.  I dunno, I liked when they actually got creative like when you fought the Koopa Kids consecutively and there was that one with the spikes alternating in the environment.  And some of the new stages were good challenge and good fun.   

I still think it's the best game on 3DS a great Mario title. But special world was overrated.  Main game was great and consistent in its greatness.  Can't really think of any bad levels in the main world.  Whereas special world is a hodgepodge of great levels and crappy levels.

I also decided to stop playing games in 3D on the 3DS after KH.  The 3D is neat but it's also distracting and has annoying visual glitches like ghosting and glare that frustrate me to no end when it's on.  The screen is just too cheap and shitty for what they're trying to do.  So I'm playing everything in 2d now and treating it like a standard handheld.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 24, 2012, 10:26:29 PM
Was SMT Soul Hackers any good?  Its coming to 3DS so i want to knwo if i should buy it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Damian79 on April 24, 2012, 10:40:56 PM
Nice, i am glad i didnt get DS2 now.  It looked so crappy.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on April 25, 2012, 12:30:34 AM
Apparently Might Switch Force is getting a free update with 5 more levels.  Still kind of paltry but its a nice gesture.  I wouldn't mind paying for dlc in the long run.

Free DLC for a small 3rd party game is a good thing to see - suggests that Nintendo isn't fucking devs up the ass if they want to update their dl game like MS. ofc, it's really the least they can do at this point.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on April 25, 2012, 12:33:18 AM
Awesome news about the Soul Hacker game. I've always wanted to play it.

Apparently Might Switch Force is getting a free update with 5 more levels.  Still kind of paltry but its a nice gesture.  I wouldn't mind paying for dlc in the long run.

Ok, this is awesome too. 5 levels MST can be completed in a few minutes, but it's still welcomed. Keep them coming, please.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 12, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
So any idea if Mario Tennis is gonna be any good?

To me it looks like Camelot ported a lot of content from the GC game (I don't know if that's the case). I don't understand how they couldn't do an adventure mode. Hot Shots Tennis on PSP had one...
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 12, 2012, 10:00:52 PM
It depends on what you're looking for.  Like Takao said, single player is barebones tennis.  There are mini-games but no rpg/adventure mode from older handheld mario tennis game or hot shots tennis.  Most of the complaints are about how limited the content is.  But if you just want to enjoying random matches against the computer or multiplayer (supposedly it's online and single cart multiplayer) it might be worth it.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 12, 2012, 10:03:55 PM
Didn't they blame not having an RPG mode on the fact they included Miis? Miis are fucking gross and not an excuse to skimp out on content.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 16, 2012, 04:01:31 PM
Mario Tennis Defense Force Assemble! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472442&page=6)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: wrowa on May 17, 2012, 09:38:25 AM
Mario Tennis is quite frustrating. It makes the impression that it's less like Power Tennis and more like Tennis 64, which is a very good thing. On the other hand, there's a reason why the handheld entries had an adventure mode while the console games didn't: The games are most fun in local multiplayer and local multiplayer on a handheld is too much of a hassle and kinda meh for this kind of game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 17, 2012, 10:00:17 AM
It does have online multiplayer, which is a first for a mario tennis game.  It just sounds like a Ridge Racer Vita situation.  I considered buying that regardless of its scarce content, just to enjoy racing and online, but ultimately decided it wasn't worth it.  Mario Tennis is giving me the same feeling.

Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 17, 2012, 11:34:18 AM
Never bought a Mario sports game, and I haven't regretted that yet.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 17, 2012, 11:53:04 AM
I bought the baseball one on Wii that Scamco made.

I haven't played it in years.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 17, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
I loved Hot Shots Tennis on PSP and was interested in this. But Hot Shots had an adventure/RPG-lite mode. It didn't have an online mode, but it was $20.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 17, 2012, 12:17:26 PM
The baseball ones are the second worst after basketball on the DS.

The soccer games are the best, followed by the tennis games.  Golf games are good too but Hot Shots Golf is an all around better series.  Hot Shots Tennis isn't quite there yet; the tennis doesn't feel as good as Mario Tennis, or even the Prince of Tennis games on GBA/DS. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 17, 2012, 01:35:21 PM
Have you ever bought *any* sports game, Andrex?

I got Wii Sports obviously. Was gonna get Resort for a while but never did.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 17, 2012, 06:47:37 PM
I kinda wish after Nintendo was successful with wii party that they would stop plastering mario on everything, but I didn't get my way in the end.  I'm not really in love with mario anything other than the platformers.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 17, 2012, 10:24:21 PM
I would rather have something *neutral* to go with my cherished nintendo game mechanics as opposed to rpg with mario, tennis with mario, racing with mario.   
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Olivia Wilde Homo on May 17, 2012, 10:36:49 PM
If the core gameplay is good, it doesn't matter to me.  I had a lot of fun with Mario Tennis on the N64.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 20, 2012, 01:22:25 AM
Just got the Rayman Origins demo

After playing the proper 1080p version, it's like having someone poop in your mouth
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on May 20, 2012, 02:21:42 AM
it's like having someone poop in your mouth
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41g1T6rkaLL.jpg)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 20, 2012, 02:22:48 AM
After playing the demo for the Vita one the 3DS version is like having someone poop in your mouth.

The game feels sluggish, the audio's awful, and the screen is hiding how nice the graphics are.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 20, 2012, 02:37:47 AM
And Ancel wonders why Nintards pee on his masterpiece. :piss2
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 20, 2012, 03:22:14 AM
It's cute you think the 3DS/Vita ports actually had influence from Ancel and weren't just sent off to Ubisoft Shanghai.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 20, 2012, 10:44:47 AM
Take my posts more srsly dcharles. ::)

Ancel's rubbed me the wrong way since hid absolute insistence Origins wasn't influenced by NSMNW. I mean it's fine if it is but let's call a spade a spade. Suuuuure the whole bubble mechanic for dead characters doesn't have any connection. I believe you Ancel. ::)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 20, 2012, 11:33:38 AM
I remember when Sony fanatics said NSMB Wii copied from LittleBigPlanet.  If we believe all the conspiracies, that puts Nintendo's in the middle of this corporate centipede.

but yeah, probably influenced by NSMB or Yoshi's Island.  Don't know why anyone cares.

Keeping it zoomed out is such an odd choice.

Oh well, typical Ubisoft handheld effort.

yeah, when I tried the demo I kept looking for a way to zoom in.  Vita version lets you pinch to zoom in.  I had trouble with everything zoomed out on the Vita screen and it's more of a problem on the 3DS.

It's still great if you ignored the other versions, like Bayonetta on the PS3.  The gameplay is all there.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 20, 2012, 12:52:23 PM
I remember Sonytards saying SMG ripped off spherical worlds from Ratchet and Clank. :lol Never mind Yoshi's Island did it in 1995.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 20, 2012, 01:19:33 PM
And Ancel wonders why Nintards pee on his masterpiece. :piss2
Take my posts more srsly dcharles. ::)

Ancel's rubbed me the wrong way since hid absolute insistence Origins wasn't influenced by NSMNW. I mean it's fine if it is but let's call a spade a spade. Suuuuure the whole bubble mechanic for dead characters doesn't have any connection. I believe you Ancel. ::)

So a bad port and dodging one question, probably for PR reasons or due to the French blood coursing through him, warrants shitting on the entire project from conception, to art-style, mechanics, and level design? And they wonder why they're often labeled as manchildren.

I haven't been to many Rayman discussions, but I was shocked to see so many ninthings shitting on it when all this time I thought it was a GAF darling, that even if it didn't click with you'd have something nice to say about it. I don't remember who said "they can't bear the idea that a western studio unaffiliated with Nintendo has produced a legit and competent platformer, one that tips the scale ever so slightly in the West platformers vs. East platformers debate," but I'm beginning to believe him.

Either way, it's a really sad state.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 20, 2012, 01:25:25 PM
Who said I shit on the entire project? I'm actually quite positive on the game as a whole and have no intention to buy the 3DS version when the PC version exists. Don't read into things that aren't there.

Here's Ancel's full quote:

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For Rayman Origins, I guess you had to look at New Super Mario Bros. Wii?

As far as I'm concerned, not at all! I will say something awful, but I do not play Mario, I don't like to slip, I do not like this inertia, I do not like that you can not slap! I think the game is fabulous, I understand people love it, but it is not my cup of tea. Me, I was rather into Ghosts'n Goblins, Heart of Darkness, Another World, games where the narrative was important. Beyond that, it's the controls of Mario that are very interesting, but which I have trouble to get used to. I feel like I can see too much through the game mechanics ("la ficelle ludique" - kinda hard to translate), even if it's a game that works, it is absorbing, obviously.

As for LittleBigPlanet, I've played very little because I found the physics and controls rather tricky. Yet the game designers who worked with me did not stop to tell me: "You should look at Donkey Kong ! You should see Mario ! " There is always a form of influence. In fact, we all face the same issues. In a multiplayer 2D game, what should happen when a player dies? How does he comes back in the game? Should we keep him waiting? We didn't want to force the player to wait, so we gave him a little control. These are issues that come back.

Totally dodging the question there. ::)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 20, 2012, 01:27:55 PM
Oh, I wasn't referring to you, because I know you know better, but I was referring to a recent overly negative GAF thread (or two). I thought you were providing the answers to what was causing the odd behavior (Re: "nintards pee on Ancel").

Totally dodging the question there. ::)

I've adblocked the ::) emoticon because of your misuse and abuse. I hope you're happy.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 20, 2012, 02:02:25 PM
he said he played lbp why do you guys think he copied that junk mario game and not superior british platformer
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 20, 2012, 02:07:04 PM
I gag every time someone praises LBP's platforming, ever jokingly.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 20, 2012, 02:13:41 PM
I think the hate the floaty LBP physics gets is overblown, but it's an acquired taste for sure.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 20, 2012, 02:25:14 PM
I disagree, I think it's much deserved.

Especially after they released the second game without taking it into account or remedying the first's biggest problem in a reasonable way ("gravity tool" was janky as shit), one that almost every customer and journalist noticed and criticized. They cited LBP1 compatibility as an excuse, a game that was rendered obsolete when they overhauled the editor and added all the new and "exciting" gadgets to the sequel. In the end that excuse that held them from updating the game in ways that mattered was nothing but a back-cover bullet-point feature, as far as I'm concerned.

It pissed me off to no end and made me questions the developer. Fucking stubborn hippies. Oh, and don't get me started on the fans who defended the physics of the sequel. "Well I don't know about you, but I actually prefer it over others" NO, FUCK YOU.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 20, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Media Molecule has always struck me as kind of hipster. Hopefully their new IP does something new but stays within the expectations of its' genre.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Shaka Khan on May 20, 2012, 03:01:15 PM
In all fairness I *do* think they're very creative.

LBP1, regardless of sales and issues, felt like a breath of fresh air. I won't go as far as calling it ground-breaking, but the presentation, tech, scope, real-time editor, social component, and online integration were ambitious and worked beautifully and cohesively together for the most part. The good outweighed the bad at the time, and I thought the sequel would surely squash the remaining issues if Mm did the right thing and listened to the outcries and feedback of fans and critics.

Unfortunately, LBP2 improved on the already functional parts, but didn't bother to fix what was broken. It felt like an expansions. It WAS an expansion, to be honest. It was far from being a pile of shit, but it did damage (or dampen) Mm's reputation. If they want to restore their brand back to where it was, prior to the release of the first LBP, when they used to "oooh" and "aaah" the audience, their next project has to be an original IP with a fresh and innovative twist. And this time, it better be 100% more fun to play than watch.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: EmCeeGrammar on May 20, 2012, 03:06:27 PM
Considering that Mighty Switch Force looks amazing I'm inclined to side with Oscar here.  Its a half assed effort and not indicative of the 3ds not being able to handle the game.  I was kinda interested in Origins too but I think I'll just wait for the WiiU sequel at this rate. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 21, 2012, 01:33:09 AM
Alright alright dchucks.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Tasty on May 21, 2012, 01:34:02 AM
I've adblocked the ::) emoticon because of your misuse and abuse. I hope you're happy.

(http://i.imgur.com/3j0is.gif)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Sho Nuff on May 21, 2012, 04:21:02 AM
LBP has the worst platforming ever

Yes worse than Bubsy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25bjSoyXlw0
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2012, 08:20:31 AM
I've never touched a LBP game.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: archnemesis on May 21, 2012, 08:22:01 AM
I've never touched a LBP game.
You're not missing out. They're quite bad.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: tiesto on May 21, 2012, 08:50:57 AM
Media Molecule has always struck me as kind of hipster. Hopefully their new IP does something new but stays within the expectations of its' genre.

You mean having The Battles and The Go Team on the LBP soundtrack didn't already tip you off to that already? They're just one "The XX" song away from being full-blown hipster.

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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Momo on May 21, 2012, 08:57:50 AM
Rayman Origins stands above most other platformers due to the OST alone
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 21, 2012, 09:54:47 AM
Floaty control were an annoyance but nothing disastrous in LBP's main game.  Except the later level that started to get annoying, the levels weren't designed for precise reflex-based platforming.  It's floaty, but levels were designed more puzzle/adventure-like. 

It really became inadequate with the user created levels where everyone tried to make Mario or Mega man* levels. I think people went in expecting that and LBP is complete failure in delivering that style of platforming. Finding the handful of good levels is another problem entirely.

I didn't like LBP2's main game as much as the first because it moved more towards traditional game types that felt worse than the inspirations.  Haven't played too much of the PSP game but it felt more like LBP1.

*Capcom sucks for never making MM Powered Up XBLA with online level sharing.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 21, 2012, 11:49:10 AM
The PSP game, by virtue of not being made by Media Molecule has less moon physics. It's still floaty, but not to the degree the PS3 games are.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: cool breeze on May 21, 2012, 12:14:42 PM
I didn't notice a difference.  It's only two planes now, which helps, but it's still floaty.

I only played the main game, and I found it aggravating.  I almost never died as a result of my own failing, but rather the kludgy plane-shifting, imprecise and floaty jumping, or the game just plain having a physics spazz-out.

There's no excuse for the game to control that poorly.  None at all.

They're bad--don't get me wrong.  I doubt anyone would claim the game wouldn't be better with good controls.

Either way, I'm pretty much done with the LBP series after LBP2.  The most enjoyment I get is seeing youtube videos of crazy levels.  It's easier than finding them in-game and more fun than playing. 
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Purple Filth on May 21, 2012, 04:54:10 PM
Haven't cared since i got over the level creation stuff
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebpo on May 21, 2012, 05:03:32 PM
As the #1 proponent of the LBP SP campaigns on this forum, I have to admit I have no interest in LBP Vita either.  Kind of been there, done that and MM isn't even making it.

That being said, this is the 3DS thread, so I dunno why were talking about a PS franchise :P
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on May 21, 2012, 06:01:23 PM
As someone who played very little of LBP2, I'm actually pretty hopeful about LBP Vita. Touch control adds a new way to make levels, and play them that I feel it's enough to separate itself from the PS3 versions. Platformers, even floaty ones, work very well on handhelds as well.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: TakingBackSunday on May 21, 2012, 09:10:41 PM
LBP had a lot of really awesome ideas that just weren't put together in any sort of cohesive experience.  Say what you will about Nintendo, but they're still pretty much unmatched in terms of platforming level design.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: originalz on May 24, 2012, 10:14:03 PM
Aww damn, new Samurai Warriors Chronicles game, that's your killer-app!  The first game was so goddamn good that I can't even imagine what they can add in the sequel.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Owl-faced Wizard on May 25, 2012, 02:04:15 AM
That being said, this is the 3DS thread, so I dunno why were talking about a PS franchise :P

It's Takao's fault. Always bringing up PS exclusives in other hardware threads.

Weird that people started on LBP like that considering Ancel mentioned he liked platformers like Another World and Heart of Darkness.  However bad LBP's platforming is ... at least its not as bad as in those games.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Himu on May 25, 2012, 02:21:24 AM
he said he played lbp why do you guys think he copied that junk mario game and not superior british platformer

Clearly he didn't, because Rayman Origins doesn't control like utter shit.

Seriously.  I got LBP free when Sony lost my personal information and played it a little and was like, well, that's not so awful, but not very interesting, either, but then my stepson wanted to play through all the pre-made levels and by the end of the game I was cursing the GOD-FUCKING shitty controls/jumping/everything so hard.  Bubsy the Bobcat was a more competent platformer.

LBP is a nice building toy, but as a platformer, it fails so, so, so fucking hard.  Rayman doesn't even look back at it as it stomps all over its shit.

LBP is fun with a lot of people, I'll give it that. It's not the best, but it's a good local co-op platformer like sonic 2.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: bork on May 25, 2012, 03:12:46 PM
Aww damn, new Samurai Warriors Chronicles game, that's your killer-app!  The first game was so goddamn good that I can't even imagine what they can add in the sequel.

More generals n' maps!  What else?

Improving the visuals and frame rate problems?  Pffffffffffffffffffffft
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Trent Dole on May 25, 2012, 11:00:49 PM
They could actually fix the pop-in for onc-ahahaha, NOPE!
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: DCharlieJP on July 16, 2012, 09:39:46 PM
It's not often i do this, and might be worth someone "Cross polinating" this on other sites :

Calciobit 3ds :

+ cute graphics, great retro feel, some amusing animations
+ fun to create your team and kits etc

- game devolves quickly into nothingness :

-- 1 ) grinding games to get upgrade cards to spend on players to improve their abilities / buying players to improve team

-- 2 ) deploying formations to counter threats

- tactically it's extremely bare bones - able to identify threats, have three types of approach to a game etc

- crux of the game  is basically formation management - whilst the grid system for deploying players gives a seeming wealth of options the truth of the matter is your options are usually down to two or three (realistic) options in the early stage.

- grinding on games to get more upgrade cards gets tiresome very quickly

- as with GBA version - if you get a bad random team at the start, you are pretty much hosed. Then you are in the quandry of just rerolling a team (feels like cheaty) or just grinding on (struggling away to slowly improve player stats)

- this game would die a horrid death if released as is - it's not got the tactical depth for the western market and whilst it's cuteness is endearing once you start hitting the 10 hour mark it starts to get tired really quickly.

- infuriating at times - anti-football logic throughout with some stupid AI choices. No real options to dictate anything of note in the game. Everything is too generalised and you are basically left to the winds of chance/luck + formation choice.

- game engine basically plays out with massive luck element, can't define running paths, can't define passing options - especially frustrating you can' t just opt for long ball last minute attack so you might be 1-0 down in the 86th minute, your defender gets the ball and walks so slowly up the pitch that even when the ball gets into a good position it's basically full time lol.

All in all, the game is a bog standard 5/10 effort - it lacks the extra options to make it worth a purchase and whilst it does allow people to indulge in the "fantasy cutesy football manager" world i think for most people it will lack the extra tactical/tweaks that would make this work in the west.


Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: DCharlieJP on July 16, 2012, 10:37:04 PM
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sounds like a very expensive pocket league story to me.


that's about the top and bottom of it - roughly about the same sort of game with this being possibly -slightly- more deep but there really isn't much in it.

Especially as they both have that annoying physical nudging thing going on.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on July 17, 2012, 10:09:31 AM
aren't both time travelers and etrian odyssey 4 out? you'd think japabore would ran this barrack here better

i find it funny with how in each etrian odyssey iteration,they fix a nitpick i had with the previous one,in this one they added a mode that gives you infinite warp wire and make it so that you don't lose your progress when you die (you get sent back to town instead of getting a game over)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: DCharlieJP on July 17, 2012, 08:06:02 PM
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DCharlie *bought* EO4, but I don't imagine he'll get to playing it until... well, that one's probably going to be in Pepe's inheritance.

yeah, i bought EO4 but i bought it just before i had a visitor. I actually get to play handheld games so it was all set to be the next game on the list (coupled with DQM which the wifes boss has demanded i play along with him)

however, even though i'd give Calciobit a fairly average review i'm somewhat addicted to see what my shitty team can do and it's now basically a grindy rpg affair of playing games to get upgrade cards to then spend on player stats to then grind for more cards to then "fight the bosses" (win league games) to get to the next "dungeon" (the next league). So yeah - i'll probably get to the top league then quit then go EO4, though i never got through 2 or 3 lol. 2 almost finished, 3 didn't get amazingly far.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: demi on July 17, 2012, 08:14:18 PM
My 3DS XL needs to hurry up and come out
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Raban on July 17, 2012, 08:41:03 PM
My 3DS XL needs to hurry up and come out

I know right? We should play Kid Icarus together when it comes out~! :-* :-* :-*
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Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on July 17, 2012, 10:19:49 PM
Personally I think it was a good move by Nintendo not to include a 2nd analog stick. This has forced developers to create original content for the console and not the ps3-port-athon found on the Vita. It was a smart business move.

...

(http://i.imgur.com/KLxtp.gif)
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: magus on July 18, 2012, 07:47:16 AM
i had no idea that the japanese version of new super mario bros 2 gets released in 10 days,you'd think there would be bigger fuck given
or maybe i'm getting out of touch
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: Takao on July 18, 2012, 07:55:05 AM
It's going to sell a bajillion copies but it's hard to give a fuck when it looks pretty much identical to every other NSMB in existence except this time there's a bazillion coins to collect.
Title: Re: 3DS Discussion Thread
Post by: frod on July 18, 2012, 08:09:06 AM
Personally I think it was a good move by Nintendo not to include a 2nd analog stick. This has forced developers to create original content for the console and not the ps3-port-athon found on the Vita. It was a smart business move.

...

(http://i.imgur.com/KLxtp.gif)

 :lol

Agreed, Vita getting ports would be something worth talking about.