http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk
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At the end of the trailer:
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)Stannis' men coming in during the battle at the Wall?[close]
At least Thronies aren't running around telling people that the show teaches them the meaning of friendship and wearing stupid ass hats.
At least Thronies aren't running around telling people that the show teaches them the meaning of friendship and wearing stupid ass hats.
he's back
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/official-game-of-thrones-season-4-thread-the-north-remembers-no-spoilers.161768/page-65#post-6965270
:rejoice
he's back
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/official-game-of-thrones-season-4-thread-the-north-remembers-no-spoilers.161768/page-65#post-6965270
:rejoice
Yup, I really like the Martells. Everyone likes Oberyn, and I really like his older brother too.
The Red Viper looks too white :hitler
Yup, I really like the Martells. Everyone likes Oberyn, and I really like his older brother too.
Season 5 should end with Doran dropping truth bombs on Arianne
didn't you know, there's different levels to this shit girl
Yup, I really like the Martells. Everyone likes Oberyn, and I really like his older brother too.
Season 5 should end with Doran dropping truth bombs on Arianne
didn't you know, there's different levels to this shit girl
:lawd :gladbron :lawd :mynicca
One of the GREATEST moments in the books hands down.
I did think Oberyn would look both swarthy and pretty.
That makes no sense and isn't a good idea. Especially due to what happens in ACoK.
That makes no sense and isn't a good idea. Especially due to what happens in ACoK.
yep, Bronn would spread that shit faster than herpes in a war camp.
Keep quiet? Ilyn Payne does more than keep quiet. He's a cripple. He can't talk. More than that, Bronn is no longer a sells word. He has a title and rank.
Looks like they're speeding up PAWGleesi's storyline?
Speaking of "Episode 9 moments"spoiler (click to show/hide)The guy who plays Loras specifically mentions that episode 9 always had the big moment, while in season 4 it's a lot more even throughout. I feel that episode 10 will arguably bigger than 9.[close]
Just recast Ilyn Payne.
By not recasting Ilyn Payne they also fuck up the character of the best knight ever.spoiler (click to show/hide)two crippled men on a journey together. NEEDS to happen. Ilyn Payne and Jaime GOAT Lannister duo need screen time. Fuck replacing Bronn with Payne. What happens when Bronn marries the girl who was raped and kills off Cersei's assassins? That's a total win moment for Bronn. Do this and you make Jaime's character development lesser.[close]
More than that, Ilyn Payne is on Arya's list. It would be distinguished mentally-challenged to replace Bronn with Payne.
They can't be this short sighted.
Just recast Ilyn Payne.
By not recasting Ilyn Payne they also fuck up the character of the best knight ever.spoiler (click to show/hide)two crippled men on a journey together. NEEDS to happen. Ilyn Payne and Jaime GOAT Lannister duo need screen time. Fuck replacing Bronn with Payne. What happens when Bronn marries the girl who was raped and kills off Cersei's assassins? That's a total win moment for Bronn. Do this and you make Jaime's character development lesser.[close]
More than that, Ilyn Payne is on Arya's list. It would be distinguished mentally-challenged to replace Bronn with Payne.
They can't be this short sighted.
They're showing the trial so much because WHY IS TYRION ON TRIAL is a pretty big selling point.
They're showing the trial so much because WHY IS TYRION ON TRIAL is a pretty big selling point.
More shitty book to show changes in the most recent GoT trailer today.spoiler (click to show/hide)Brienne is now searching for ARYA... for some reason? I guess? They must be totally writing out the Stoneheart arc.[close]
More shitty book to show changes in the most recent GoT trailer today.spoiler (click to show/hide)Brienne is now searching for ARYA... for some reason? I guess? They must be totally writing out the Stoneheart arc.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Well they're not gonna say she's looking for Sansa in a pre release trailer.[close]
Book purists =
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Yeah. See? Tyrion always makes off better. But Jon? :tocry
waste your cgi budget on a direwolf following Jon around doing nothing, brehs
I can understand your pov, but I'm in it to see my favorite moments in the books recreated on television, and the entirety of Jon's chapters in ACOK and ASOS are among my top favorite moments.
spoiler (click to show/hide)What about hair color though? If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)What about hair color though? If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)What about hair color though? If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic[close]
actuallyspoiler (click to show/hide)The Targaryen silver hair/purple eye trait are not dominant; many Targaryens don't have silver blonde hair either. In fact the very same book Ned uses to prove Joffrey isn't a Lannister gives it away. Robert Baratheon's grandmother is a Targaryen, and all her children had black hair.
Also, Jon is compared to Lyanna, looks wise.[close]
:belispoiler (click to show/hide)What about hair color though? If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic[close]
actuallyspoiler (click to show/hide)The Targaryen silver hair/purple eye trait are not dominant; many Targaryens don't have silver blonde hair either. In fact the very same book Ned uses to prove Joffrey isn't a Lannister gives it away. Robert Baratheon's grandmother is a Targaryen, and all her children had black hair.
Also, Jon is compared to Lyanna, looks wise.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)It's still lazy![close]
The Meereenese Blot blog proves that Dany's ADWD chapters are great material so I can't wait for the TV version.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Victarion is just a shitty character. It's really hard to get excited about those because it's all rape this, murder that, angryangryangry. Agreed the Barristan chapters capped the book off satisfactorily. Like I told PD though, leaving Stannis in the snow was a I can't think of what the fuck I'm doing cop out.[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)Victarion is just a shitty character. It's really hard to get excited about those because it's all rape this, murder that, angryangryangry. Agreed the Barristan chapters capped the book off satisfactorily. Like I told PD though, leaving Stannis in the snow was a I can't think of what the fuck I'm doing cop out.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Martin basically had to end the book. It ends in the middle of what he wanted to do- wanted to get the Winterfell and Dany battles in but couldn't. The Barristan chapters were some of the few I actually enjoyed in the book- agreed on Tyrion, I enjoyed his first few chapters but then he just went to shit. BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M SAD AND HERE'S PENNY, WHERE DO WHORES GO BLAH. The Jon chapters sucked too I thought. "Let me send all of my most loyal friends/supporters away and make increasingly unpopular decisions, what could go wrong?" I really hope the next book turns shit around, PD will stan the fuck out of the book but I thought it was crap.[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)Stannis isn't just in the snow though. He settled his army in a village, and is planning for the battle to occur there. You should read Theon's TWOW chapter...
http://archive.is/eoIl
The battle was moved from ADWD to TWOW sadly.[close]
Tyrion's story was worse :ufupExcept for
NopeTyrion's story was worse :ufupExcept forspoiler (click to show/hide)the Heart of Darkness-esque trip down the Rhoyne and the reveal of Aegon, which made Tyrion's chapters in ADWD awesome.[close]
Finally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers.spoiler (click to show/hide)Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end. It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk. Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter. Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc. Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall. Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.
Definitely was the weakest book imo. People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS. The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too. Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).
Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.[close]
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/7957270/
:dead
Finally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers.spoiler (click to show/hide)Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end. It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk. Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter. Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc. Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall. Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.
Definitely was the weakest book imo. People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS. The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too. Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).
Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.[close]
no worries breh
adwdspoiler (click to show/hide)Stannis and Jon aren't dead[close]
adwdFinally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers.spoiler (click to show/hide)Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end. It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk. Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter. Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc. Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall. Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.
Definitely was the weakest book imo. People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS. The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too. Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).
Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.[close]
no worries breh
adwdspoiler (click to show/hide)Stannis and Jon aren't dead[close]
Yeah butspoiler (click to show/hide)While I'd like that because Stannis is the only interesting guy left fighting and Jon is kind of lovable pup, it just would add more bs fake out deaths and bs plot armor for the pov characters which is getting worse and worse as the books come out. How many times has Tyrion fake died? The series started off very non-cliche and GRRM wasn't afraid to kil off characters, but now it's like a cheesy anime where no one really dies until endgame when he starts getting rid of everyone.
Also at least with Jon's death you get a feeling that some important stuff happened in ADWD. Without those deaths, the book feels even less important.[close]
adwdspoiler (click to show/hide)People seriously think Stannis is dead based ONLY on the Bolton bastard's letter? Yeah, cause he's trustworthy. :gurl[close]
That guy looked so weird, I assumed chicks would dig the new guy.
Reading some of these posts, I'm glad I don't spend too much time fucking around with fan theories.
All hail HBO’s Game of Thrones. The fourth-season premiere of the fantasy delivered the show’s biggest audience yet: 6.6 million viewers. That makes Sunday’s Thrones HBO’s most-watched program since The Sopranos’ series finale in 2007. Two replays of the Thrones episode drove the show’s full-night tally up to 8.2 million viewers.
By comparison, season 3 opened to 4.4 million viewers and eventually peaked at 5.5 million for the sixth episode (no, the Red Wedding was not a record high, and nor was the finale, which delivered 5.4 million).
Last season Thrones averaged 14.4 million viewers per episode, second only to The Sopranos as HBO’s most-watched series. This year, Thrones might very well overtake the classic mob drama to claim the premium cable network’s all-time crown, especially given its history of growing its audience as a season progresses.
The best thing about the episode is Jaime Lannister. Niko is doing such a great job and he's so dreamy with his new haircut. Since I henceforth abandon Jon Snow as GOAT ASOIAF character - especially due to the developments in the s4 opener - it's great that second best GOAT is getting the respect he deserves. Jaime fucking Lannister, bitches.
Can't remember the timing of the books since I marathoned them, will we see
(Not sure what book this spoils)spoiler (click to show/hide)Arya get to Braavos this season?[close]
Your loss.Your loss. I actually enjoy the show. I can read the books later on.
What were your thoughts Beezy?
I guess new Daario is the general look that women are attracted to today?
Your loss.Your loss. I actually enjoy the show. I can read the books later on.
I'm not sure how they're going to structure the next two seasons. They'll probably need to end season 6 with stuff from TWOW because if they stick to the books :fbm
Y'all keep acting like they're shitting on Shakespeare instead of making choices that by and large are made as business decisions because THEY HAVE TO GET THE WIDEST POSSIBLE AUDIENCE FOR THIS SHOW, YOU FUCKING HALFWITS.
Himu: I agree that brothels are getting tiring, and you know I called this a year ago when I said they'd introduce him with a bisexual scene. But...it was a good scene, and if I was in control of writing his introduction I would have done something similar.
My problem with the show remains the lack of subtlety, but then again...there are a billion names and concepts for people to grasp. Maybe they don't have time for subtlety. My problems with the show are well documented, I'm not a slappy for it - in fact I often find it disappointing. But this was the best premier episode since the pilot, and nearly every scene worked. And Oberyn's introduction worked VERY well.
This is what I'm afreaid of. Books 4-5 don't lend themselves well to a show structure at all. They have to shorten some shit (Like Martin SHOULD HAVE DONE) and throw in some stuff from TWOW.I'm not sure how they're going to structure the next two seasons. They'll probably need to end season 6 with stuff from TWOW because if they stick to the books :fbm
They will probably combine both books 4 and 5.
This is what I'm afreaid of. Books 4-5 don't lend themselves well to a show structure at all. They have to shorten some shit (Like Martin SHOULD HAVE DONE) and throw in some stuff from TWOW.I'm not sure how they're going to structure the next two seasons. They'll probably need to end season 6 with stuff from TWOW because if they stick to the books :fbm
They will probably combine both books 4 and 5.spoiler (click to show/hide)Can you imagine Dany's arc for two whole seasons :kobeyuck[close]
You're gonna have to explain how AFFC doesn't lend itself to adaption.AFFC is better suited, but not over 2 seasons (this is what I'm saying)
affcspoiler (click to show/hide)Jaime: Amazing scene with Tywin's body, breaking up with Cersei, Riverrun siege, Blackfish encounter. All that shit is awesome.
Cersei: Everything will be awesome. Especially if they leave Lady Olenna in KL, the actress is great
Iron Islands: I'm assuming the show has cut Theon's brothers out. If not, they'll at least introduce one or two. Victarion would be pretty badass on television, although I can understand if they cut him. It'll pose problems later considering Dany is prophesied to marry him (or Euron), but overall that won't be hard to replace with something else.
Brienne: Pod and Brienne start their journey this season apparently. Should make for good television since I assume she won't have many scenes.
Dorne: There's no way the show will have 7 Sand Snakes. Perhaps Ellaria will replace Arianne's role, considering they cast a noteworthy actress. Regardless, the Myrcella plot will work in some form or fashion.
Arya: Will rock. Arya training, going blind, warging cats, etc.
Sansa: LF apprenticeship, will work[close]
You're gonna have to explain how AFFC doesn't lend itself to adaption.AFFC is better suited, but not over 2 seasons (this is what I'm saying)
affcspoiler (click to show/hide)Jaime: Amazing scene with Tywin's body, breaking up with Cersei, Riverrun siege, Blackfish encounter. All that shit is awesome.
Cersei: Everything will be awesome. Especially if they leave Lady Olenna in KL, the actress is great
Iron Islands: I'm assuming the show has cut Theon's brothers out. If not, they'll at least introduce one or two. Victarion would be pretty badass on television, although I can understand if they cut him. It'll pose problems later considering Dany is prophesied to marry him (or Euron), but overall that won't be hard to replace with something else.
Brienne: Pod and Brienne start their journey this season apparently. Should make for good television since I assume she won't have many scenes.
Dorne: There's no way the show will have 7 Sand Snakes. Perhaps Ellaria will replace Arianne's role, considering they cast a noteworthy actress. Regardless, the Myrcella plot will work in some form or fashion.
Arya: Will rock. Arya training, going blind, warging cats, etc.
Sansa: LF apprenticeship, will work[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)None of the main characters really get a good conclusion in the books. Everyone is just waiting for some other shit to happen that doesn't happen yet, that's why I'm saying it doesn't lend itself well without at least a few of the conclusions from TWOW. Can you imagine Dany and Tyrion's storylines for 2 seasons? Of course not, they're boring and they end juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust as shit's about to hit the fan. Jon Snow? Great for 1 season, 2 seasons? Fuck that. I'm guessing Brienne goes off on her quest this season, and meets her end with Cat at the very end, Theon has already been introduced as reek so that advances that one quite a bit.[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)Victarion has the horn though, and we have no idea how that's going to play into it, so who gets the horn if not Victarion?[close]
The whole whining about overly sexualized shit is ooooold and the same people keep doing it, and they're not surprisingly the same people who put the books on a pedestal as something more than really good genre fiction.
Insert gif of Looney Toons character going into a berserk rage.
WTF does this even mean? Are you going to be the kind of person who pretends that some dude with half of GRRM's writing chops who writes some pretentious crap about growing up a gay white kid with micropenis in a rough neighborhood with a father who comes out as transsexual and a sister who reveals she was molested by their dead uncle and the kid goes off to war and learns the meaning of life and has to deal with DADT has automatically produced a greater work than A Storm of Swords because GRRM's book has dragons and the other dude's book is serious and "literary"?
Nah, fuck that noise. ASOS > more than half the stuff on high school English reading lists. I'd probably call it a top 100 book of all time, all genres.
Edit: I think Chichikov on GAF was the one who said some shit like if a science fiction work is good enough it stops being sci-fi. His type should be barred from critiquing anything, ever.
ASoIaF > Gatsby
:umad
This is what I'm afreaid of. Books 4-5 don't lend themselves well to a show structure at all. They have to shorten some shit (Like Martin SHOULD HAVE DONE) and throw in some stuff from TWOW.I'm not sure how they're going to structure the next two seasons. They'll probably need to end season 6 with stuff from TWOW because if they stick to the books :fbm
They will probably combine both books 4 and 5.spoiler (click to show/hide)Can you imagine Dany's arc for two whole seasons :kobeyuck[close]
I guess what I'm trying to say is this:
I like X-Men 2 better than Patton. But I'm willing to admit that Patton is a better movie. That in no way detracts from my enjoyment of X2, and I feel no weird urge to defend X2 as a classic film.spoiler (click to show/hide)Avatar is still b tier, THAT'S RIGHT COME AT ME BRO[close]
Are you guys getting all that stuff from the sample chapters from TWoW? How many chapters has he released? Sounds like he's given half the book away for free or something at this point, which is odd.
Comparing ASOIAF to X-Men?
:what
I guess I'm with Triumph on this.
Are you getting the books and the tv show mixed up? Because upon re-reading the books, they're not gratuitous in their sexuality. Explicit, yes. But just as explicit as the violence and anything else. But not gratuitous.
I guess I'm with Triumph on this.
I knew you'd come around on Jane Austen eventually, breh
:mynicca
Honestly, I'm more shocked you guys don't realize that's how some people feel about ASOIAF.
I think ASOS is the best fantasy book ever written.
Harry Potter
It's a good series. I put it with Gundam, Metal Gear Solid, Xenogears
At least he didn't say Xenosaga.
Honestly, I'm more shocked you guys don't realize that's how some people feel about ASOIAF.
I think ASOS is the best fantasy book ever written.
In a land beset by war a young girl finds 3 dragons to battle a long dormant supernatural threat #jrpgplotorliterarymasterpiece
And incest :philIn a land beset by war a young girl finds 3 dragons to battle a long dormant supernatural threat #jrpgplotorliterarymasterpiece
It's even got all sorts of loli shit :uguu :jawalrus
they need to start showign more cocks in GoT
*A Dance With Dragons spoilers*spoiler (click to show/hide)I wasn't jerking off to a little girl, mom. Her name is Leaf. And she may be called one of the "Children of the Forest," but she's over two hundred years old. :expert[close]
Nope. Creepy said "wide audience"
:jawalrus
Could HBO show titty fucking? It's not penetration.
I don't think I've see an erect penis on HBO. Unless I'm forgetting something from Rome.
I don't think anybody wants to see erect genitals in something with a story. I know I don't.I don't want to see vagina, either, then.
I don't think anybody wants to see erect genitals in something with a story. I know I don't.I don't want to see vagina, either, then.
I disagree, so whatever. HBO needs more dong. It's honestly a bit sexist, and the double standards present are fucked.I don't think anybody wants to see erect genitals in something with a story. I know I don't.I don't want to see vagina, either, then.
There's no equality here. Sorry brehs.
I don't think showing dong would have any negative effect on GoT's viewership. And if bros turn away, then they're just insecure about their own superbly small dicks
If you can't show me a screen cap with labia, your argument for penis is moot :smugBasically. No pink is shown, just bush.
Well I know for a fact I've seen Hodor's Hodor
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8023458/
he's back :neogaf
These hoes ain't tryna fukk nikkas with hands made out of Rick Ross album sales
What's a labia? :what
Not necessarily.ASOS
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)they may just show the wedding. and not the ceremony.[close]
What's the etiquette on spoilers? Just for stuff that hasn't happened yet in the TV series, or for all plot discussion in general?
PD you guys were right. jaime training with bronn will be alright. just protective of my faves. :obama
I really wish people were talking about the wider implications of the episode rather than just karma. For example, I think people forget that Melisandre used three leeches to sacrifice to the Red God to kill Stannis' enemies. It brings the question of fate, prediction, and prophecy. Is the Red God's actions true, and are Melisandre's prophecies true? Are are such predictions self fulfilling in that our actions are bound to cause them? This is mitigated by the fact that the episode is wrapped around the religious implications and influences of the world the story takes place in: fire sacrifice, heart tree visions, a wedding in the midst of the seven. Religion and prophecy tie the heart of the episode. Not karma.
Aside from perhaps the Iron King, all three kings died from their own actions - Joffrey and Robb were bound to die. Or is the Red God's ability to tell the future through fire true? Or is it a medium of both? That's stimulating discussion that's interesting. Not talk of karma. Then again, I hate the western interpretation of karma so it rubs me the wrong way. As an addendum, this does show how poorly the tv show has been at representing and showing the religiosity of Westeros. The Seven for example, have hardly been expounded upon. So maybe why they're not talking about the theological implications is because - as tv watchers - they haven't been exposed to them, and now I'll just shut up, but sometimes the lack of detailed discussion from the tv show almost gives me an aneurysm.
Milasandre? I'm not thinking about that crazy bitch.
Milasandre? I'm not thinking about that crazy bitch.
:ufup don't think they ran out of firewood in dragon stone.
Book lords only:It's not our fault you watch sdtv quality rips of the show. I notice you often complain about stuff like this only to be proven wrong lolspoiler (click to show/hide)lol people are finally starting to realize that no one could had actually slipped anything into Joffrey's goblet, I think the director fucked up there, they didn't showed any stones missing from Sansa's necklace, Sansa, Tyrion, Marge and Joff were the only ones that touched the goblet, and it was place close to the queen of thornes but she would have had to stand up to put anything in there not to mention that it was in front of the whole crowd, was afraid to mention this since people since to be arguing about what exactly was poisoned[close]
Book lords only:It's not our fault you watch sdtv quality rips of the show. I notice you often complain about stuff like this only to be proven wrong lolspoiler (click to show/hide)lol people are finally starting to realize that no one could had actually slipped anything into Joffrey's goblet, I think the director fucked up there, they didn't showed any stones missing from Sansa's necklace, Sansa, Tyrion, Marge and Joff were the only ones that touched the goblet, and it was place close to the queen of thornes but she would have had to stand up to put anything in there not to mention that it was in front of the whole crowd, was afraid to mention this since people since to be arguing about what exactly was poisoned[close]
Screen caps from the scene (dunno if new viewers want to see, but it makes an argument for who poisoned Joff with pictures from the episode):
http://m.imgur.com/a/Hjii3
the new Daario is so boring.
This is all my fault.
I decided that the way they've shat on Jon Snow's character has been awful so I was going to latch onto Jaime (my second fave) instead because they were doing the character justice.
NOW LOOK WHAT HAPPEN
If I had a "survive the series" card I could give to any character I'd hand it to Davos. I just want him to make it home to his wife and kids :tocry
This is off topic here. This is the section for comments about Junot Diaz and Anne Perry and the Cocteau's author program.http://grrm.livejournal.com/367116.html?thread=19030284#t19030284
Since a lot of people have been emailing me about this, however, I will reply... but please, take any further discussion of the show to one of the myriad on-line forums devoted to that. I do not want long detailed dissections and debates about the TV series here on my blog.
As for your question... I think the "butterfly effect" that I have spoken of so often was at work here. In the novels, Jaime is not present at Joffrey's death, and indeed, Cersei has been fearful that he is dead himself, that she has lost both the son and the father/ lover/ brother. And then suddenly Jaime is there before her. Maimed and changed, but Jaime nonetheless. Though the time and place is wildly inappropriate and Cersei is fearful of discovery, she is as hungry for him as he is for her.
The whole dynamic is different in the show, where Jaime has been back for weeks at the least, maybe longer, and he and Cersei have been in each other's company on numerous occasions, often quarreling. The setting is the same, but neither character is in the same place as in the books, which may be why Dan & David played the sept out differently. But that's just my surmise; we never discussed this scene, to the best of my recollection.
Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime's POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don't know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing.
If the show had retained some of Cersei's dialogue from the books, it might have left a somewhat different impression -- but that dialogue was very much shaped by the circumstances of the books, delivered by a woman who is seeing her lover again for the first time after a long while apart during which she feared he was dead. I am not sure it would have worked with the new timeline.
That's really all I can say on this issue. The scene was always intended to be disturbing... but I do regret if it has disturbed people for the wrong reasons.
Now, if you please, I'd appreciate it if we could get back to Junot Diaz and Anne Perry and the subjects of the original post.
the new Daario is so boring.
yeah, it's odd that they didn't cast someone who resembled or had a similar demeanor of the old actor. he comes off like a different character this season. the old actor seemed hyper confident. new guy is like some devil may care dude.
He was still pissing when Daario Naharis rode up, arakh in
hand. “Shall I cut that off for you and stuff it down his mouth, Your Grace? :mynicca”
I don't do anything around here so I might as well fight him :yeshrug
Hey, what's a good resource for book-by-book plot summaries without spoilers for the whole series? Thinking of catching up with the series, but I'm just not up for re-reading the first four books, and enough time has passed since I read them that lots of stuff is fuzzy or outright forgotten for me.
ADWD question:spoiler (click to show/hide)We're only like a season away from Quentyn's storyline. Does anyone think it'll be kept in in Season 5?[close]
ADWD question:ADWDspoiler (click to show/hide)We're only like a season away from Quentyn's storyline. Does anyone think it'll be kept in in Season 5?[close]
I haven't watched it yet, but would agree that any more Oberyn sexual focus is too much Oberyn sexual focus. It's a shame as he's a really good actor portraying an interesting character, and everything ELSE he's had to work with has been great, but I guess the show runners really ARE 14 year old boys. Sigh.
Anyone else kind of annoyed that the show has spent more time emphasizing Oberyn's sexual tastes than any other aspect of his character?It's refreshing to see someone openly bisexual on the show that is male, but I agree, they're spending a lot of time showing that, yes, Dornish people have a LOT of sex.
Letting the audience know that he likes a dude's rear as much as a woman's front is character development, I guess, but there are so many other aspects of his personality that the show is NOT developing so that it can really hammer home his sexual preferences.
I, for one, am annoyed.
What the fuck! this will be my last season of the show, no way I'm getting the fucking series spoiled! and I will begin to check this thread before watching in case there are more spoilers :maf
welp
spoilersspoiler (click to show/hide)There are 13 Others in the background of the scene. In the books, the first Night's King was the 13th Lord Commander of the NW.
Even weirder, this seems to tie into a theory someone posted on Reddit a couple weeks ago. I remember reading it at the time and thinking it was one of the more legit sounding pieces of speculation, and now here we are.
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/23p48r/the_true_nature_and_purpose_of_the_others_and_the/[close]
What the fuck! this will be my last season of the show, no way I'm getting the fucking series spoiled! and I will begin to check this thread before watching in case there are more spoilers :maf
Give in breh, you know Martin is gonna dirtnap before he finishes. Show will end up being cannon. :jawalrus
Also, did I miss what everyone has their panties in a bunch over? Was Oberyn even IN this episode? Episode was pretty solid overall imo.
The final few minutes of the episode are most likely book spoilers.
I don't think anyone is surprised by what happened to the baby; we already knew they were sacrificed to the Others. The surprising thing is that
series spoilerspoiler (click to show/hide)the episode showed the Land of Always Winter as well as the Night's King.[close]
I don't think anyone is surprised by what happened to the baby; we already knew they were sacrificed to the Others. The surprising thing is that
series spoilerspoiler (click to show/hide)the episode showed the Land of Always Winter as well as the Night's King.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Again, I have to say... what's the big fucking deal to that. Did you surmise that they were both fairy tales? People thought the Others were fairy tales before they came back. And again, the show has to tell the story in a different manner than the books, which can hint and foreshadow around the edges way more effectively than the show can. Also, yes, most people who watch the show are dumber than your average book reader, so things do need to be painted simpler for that audience. I seriously think a lot of you will be happier abandoning the show, waiting for TWoW, then coming back to the show after Fatty dies with the final book unfinished.[close]
Triumph has been beating the "Patrick Rothfuss > GRRM" drum for so long that I'm probably going to pick up The Name of the Wind one of these days.It's a Mary Sue children's book (young adult, if you will). I couldn't be bothered to pick up the second novel.
Back to the episode: no follow up on Jaime raping Cersei, as expected. It was a shock scene inserted for no reason, or deliberately edited to look like rape. Just stupid shit...these show runners...
So whats up with the Dreadfort guy showing up at the wall? Maybe I missed something from last episode.
Martin always centers the story around point of view characters, so there would have been no way to write that last scene in one of the books.
Works for me.
Triumph has been beating the "Patrick Rothfuss > GRRM" drum for so long that I'm probably going to pick up The Name of the Wind one of these days.It's a Mary Sue children's book (young adult, if you will). I couldn't be bothered to pick up the second novel.
Martin always centers the story around point of view characters, so there would have been no way to write that last scene in one of the books.
Works for me.
Martin always centers the story around point of view characters, so there would have been no way to write that last scene in one of the books.
Works for me.
Ghost, Summer Bran, Tree Bran, Mel's Fires.
There is always a way for Bran to see that occur considering the powers he's attaining.Martin always centers the story around point of view characters, so there would have been no way to write that last scene in one of the books.
Works for me.
Ghost, Summer Bran, Tree Bran, Mel's Fires.
...all of which are told from a character's perspective. Which main character is gonna get THAT chapter? You tell me.
Martin always centers the story around point of view characters, so there would have been no way to write that last scene in one of the books.
Works for me.
Ghost, Summer Bran, Tree Bran, Mel's Fires.
...all of which are told from a character's perspective. Which main character is gonna get THAT chapter? You tell me.
someone link me to the westeros thread on the Night's King
i want comedy
Won't lie, I got legitimate chills when the camera panned back to reveal the Targaryen flag flying over Mereen at the end of Dany's scene. Legit empire-building.
The Margaery/Tommen scene was pretty hilarious. I wonder if show Tommen J/Os at this point. Book Tommen certainly doesn't, but show Tommen is another matter. I would have probably gone 10-12 times that night if Natalie Dormer came and had that interaction with me when I was that age. Nice.
Women can never rape. It's basically fact.
this conversation feels strangely awkward considering my avatar
On the parentage of Jon Snow:http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/george-r-r-martin-outtakes-from-the-rolling-stone-interview-20140428#ixzz30KmowiBi
Benioff and Weiss later said that during that meeting you asked them who they think Jon Snow's mother was, which is one of the earliest — and seemingly one of the central — mysteries in A Song of Ice and Fire.
I did ask that at one point, just to see how closely they'd read the text.
Did they get it right?
They answered correctly.
(spoiler tagged the last part just in case)spoiler (click to show/hide)Some readers, I think, would also ask who Jon Snow's father truly is, even though Jon was always claimed to be Ned Stark's bastard son.
[Martin smiles] On this I shall not speak. I shall maintain my enigmatic silence, until I get to it in the books.[close]
Illythia, the one true boy-raperWomen can never rape. It's basically fact.
this conversation feels strangely awkward considering my avatar
Lucrecia, the one true Cersei
:rejoice
Illythia, the one true boy-raperWomen can never rape. It's basically fact.
this conversation feels strangely awkward considering my avatar
Lucrecia, the one true Cersei
:rejoice
You got a couple struggle houses down for the cause, meanwhile your Hand of the King is following that reading rainbow word to LeVar Burton. nikka's still struggling with cursive and has Shireen filling out his credit request forms for him
Somebody explain to me how Grey Worm is reading at a higher grade level than Davos already? Davos is getting trained by a highborn "princess" while Grey Weezy is getting trained by a former slave. Nas was right, public schools do nurture teen talents:dead
. I don't know about y'all but I think Jojen might have that house in Virginia. Is that how these Crannogmen get down? I guess they don't call it the Neck for nothing:rofl
#StannisSet...you thought this was gonna be an all Lannister sonning? All this talk of honor and rights and Stannis is burning his own people at the stake. Nobody likes their inlaws but this is how you treat your squad?
Ser Pounce? You tryna play with the wrong p*ssy, my dude
What was ruined from the books in this episode, guys?
What was ruined from the books in this episode, guys?Quite a bit. The Arya/Hound scene, the Jon/Bran scene? which sort of interpreted that they (kind of) run into each other but makes a huge stupid fight scene out of it, and yet another "Cersei is totally sympathetic guys ok" scene that we really needed again.
the amount that i care about your posts on ASOIAF:
At the risk of sounding repetitive: HBO’s Game of Thrones delivered record ratings yet again. Sunday’s episode, “First of His Name,” delivered 7.2 million viewers for its first airing at 9 p.m., then totaled 8.6 million including encores for the night. Overall, Thrones is averaging a whopping 17.8 million viewers this season across all platforms, up 24 percent from last year.http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/05/06/game-of-thrones-ratings-surge/
Sansa's story is Littlefinger's story now. And his long con is amazing.
Sansa's story is Littlefinger's story now. And his long con is amazing.
affcspoiler (click to show/hide)Who do you think the three queens are, in the "War of the Three Queens" plot he mentioned to Sansa?[close]
I’ve been arguing for years that the sex pirate is the most relatable character on Game of Thrones because he swears allegiance only to House Party.
It all almost worked, too. Tywin was moments away from having Tyrion banished to the North and Jaime exiled to eHarmony.com when someone overplayed their hand.:dead
This week we have it hot and straight from HBO, like wolf bread. For the fourth time this season, a new series high record has been set this Sunday. 7.2 million people have watched Game of Thrones as it first aired, and the combined number for the night reached 8.5 million. (We will get some more details tomorrow to see how the exact numbers relate to the previous record of 7.16m).http://winteriscoming.net/2014/05/19/mockingbird-sends-game-thrones-record-heights/
What was the line in the books you guys are spergin out over? Because "your sister" landed awesomely.
They finally made Oberyn the badass Oberyn and not the hey guys look at who he fucks Oberyn?
They finally made Oberyn the badass Oberyn and not the hey guys look at who he fucks Oberyn?spoiler (click to show/hide)And right before he's about to die.[close]
See, the show runners know exactly what they're doing. :hitler
Why are people raging about that line change?????? I don't understand?!
Fucking black people. :(
And to judge Martin based off Victarion, one of the worst (albeit badass) human beings in the series...c'mon son :heh
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=822529Cross-reference that with what they think of the, let's say, 'ephebophilia' in the books.
The OP had a misunderstanding and ultimately had it cleared up, but to make a more broad point...I've never understood why people are so quick to accuse authors of somehow advocating bad shit that characters in their novel believe. I know people who have accused Cormac McCarthy and Mark Twain of being racist...because of certain characters or language in their work. It just baffles me...
And to judge Martin based off Victarion, one of the worst (albeit badass) human beings in the series...c'mon son :heh
As for the moon door moment, I thought it was fine. It lacked the tension of what happened in the book, but that's because the revelation that Lysa is the one that killed Jon Arryn and blamed it on the Lannisters at the behest of Baelish was revealed during the moon door scene, and not before. So it comes as a shock when you read it. But it's only done because in the books have character view points, and Baelish is not a viewpoint character in ASOS, so it's needed for Sansa to hear for the plot twist to be told. The way they did it suits the medium more because it'd be cheesy as fuck if they did the whole "VILLAIN REVEALS HER PLOT TO THE HERO" thing.Also if you hadn't figured out that Lysa killed Jon Arryn by that point :sabu
Then again,It's a good scene, but it's missing something. Not worthy of the bitching book readers are doing though.spoiler (click to show/hide)it doesn't reveal that Lysa snuck into Peter's room and pretended to be Cat and fucked him[, and how her father forced to drink moon tea to abort it.[close]
:sabuAlso if you hadn't figured out that Lysa killed Jon Arryn by that point :sabu
Really? I don't remember many clues pointing in that direction.
TV’s most globe-trotting series is preparing to add another country to its passport. Sources say HBO’s Game of Thrones is looking to film part of season 5 in Spain. The HBO fantasy hit is currently scouting locations in the Andalucia region of the country and is deep in talks with a local film commission.
If all goes according to plan, Spain will mark the seventh country (the seventh kingdom, if you will) where Thrones has shot on location. The main Thrones production base and studio is at Titanic Studios in Belfast, Northern Ireland (a former shipyard where the fated luxury liner was constructed a century ago). In addition, production units have been dispatched in recent seasons to Croatia (mostly King’s Landing scenes) and Iceland (mostly scenes set North of the The Wall). Footage has also been shot in Morocco and Malta (largely the Slaver’s Bay cities in Essos) and, briefly, the United States (the bear pit scene).
Also if you hadn't figured out that Lysa killed Jon Arryn by that point :sabu
Really? I don't remember many clues pointing in that direction.
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:noah
i watched don't mess with the zohan because of her
*yawn*Also if you hadn't figured out that Lysa killed Jon Arryn by that point :sabu
Really? I don't remember many clues pointing in that direction.
I mean half the shit that happens in the books is so fucking obvious. And the stuff that isn't obvious is just because GURM has no idea what he's doing.
I really don't think they could have found a better actor to play Robin. Something about that kid makes me want to see him abused.
Thanks to a tip from a Winteriscoming.net source, we have a better idea of how Game of Thrones season 5 is taking shape. Casting is in full swing, providing us with details about who the show will be adding next year- and a few of the changes that may happen with them.
Fans have been speculating that with Game of Thrones possibly filming in Spain next season that we’ll be seeing a lot of Dorne, and based on the role breakdown that has surfaced, they’re right.
Prince Doran Martell – Doran is described as the major new player this year, appearing in multiple episodes. The fiftysomething prince uses a wheelchair, is reclusive and rules wisely. It appears the show is looking to continue the trend it started with Pedro Pascal, and cast Latino actors for the Martell clan.
Prince Trystane Martell – Trystane, the handsome fiance of Princess Myrcella, is being aged up to 18.
Areo Hotah - Doran’s personal bodyguard will appear throughout the season, assisting the prince with his duties. The show is particularly looking for a black actor to fill the role.
The Sand Snakes, Oberyn Martell’s bastard daughters (with ages ranging 18-25):
Obara Sand – The eldest and most athletic Sand Snake will be having a major fight scene with a series regular character- not one who crosses her path in the books. This is an interesting change.
Nymeria Sand – Nymeria is described as “mixed race,” with her father being the fairer Oberyn and her mother being darker skinned. The second oldest of these Sand Snakes, she’s beautiful, emotional and very strong.
Tyene Sand - The youngest of the Sand Snakes that we meet uses her wits and seductive powers, and is less of a physical fighter than the other Sand Snakes. She is just as deadly as her sisters, however, but her weapon is poison.
High Sparrow - The books’ pious head of a religious movement will be appearing in several episodes in season 5.
Septa Unella – The show is looking for a character actress to play the imposing and unrelenting septa who spends a lot of time with a major series character next year.
Maggy the Frog- A fortune teller in A Feast for Crows, she’ll be in one episode next year.
Lollys Stokeworth – Just last week in “Mockingbird,” Bronn announced his intention to marry Lollys, whom Tyrion considers “dimwitted.” It looks like the sellsword will still be around next year.
Yezzan - A sleazy Meereenese slave owner.
The Waif – The strange child from the books that Arya encounters will likely be played by an older actress, one in her later teens, and we understand the show is specifically looking for a woman of East Asian descent for the part.
Anyone who likes Kit Harrington (Jon Snow) - do yourself a favor and don't watch Pompeii.
Whatever happened with that Klondike show that Richard Madden was in? He's a good actor, and I'd like to see him get more roles.
[–]AaronC14 316 points 55 minutes ago*
I'm going to try and keep this spoiler free. Oberyn is one of the greatest warriors in Westeros, what kind of training did you have to undertake to help fit with this trait of his?
Also I'd like to add that you're fucking KILLING IT as Oberyn. (the good kind of killing it)
[–]Pedro_PascalPedro Pascal 415 points 48 minutes ago
First, thank you VERY very much. That's always amazing for me to hear. And the production of Game of Thrones actually put me in some pre-training before I went to Europe to start shooting. I was put intro some classes with a master of Wushu, an acrobatic martial art, and they put me with a master, his name is Master Hu, and he has a studio in Los Angeles where he sort of basically showed me the basics and taught me how to fight with a spear and twist my body around and move in ways I never thought possible. And this was a guy who actually did Shaolin movies with Jet Li very early in Jet Li's career, and fought alongside him as his sidekick, so he was the real deal.
Then once I got to Europe and started shooting, there were really intensive fight rehearsals with me and the stunt team that was headed by C.C. Smiff, and other actors, and we did a lot of fight choreography and rehearsals. The Oberyn style of fighting is inspired by Wushu.
End of season / book 3 spoilerspoiler (click to show/hide)Warningspoiler (click to show/hide)warningspoiler (click to show/hide)I loved the foreshadowing of Tywin's death[close][close][close]
End of season / book 3 spoilerspoiler (click to show/hide)Warningspoiler (click to show/hide)warningspoiler (click to show/hide)I loved the foreshadowing of Tywin's death[close][close][close]
I've been spoiling this series for myself ever since I accidentally watched the opening of Season 2 before finishing ASoIaF, so I was willing to spoil myself here. Still. Damn.
Missandei tho :noah
Honestly I thought the episode was pretty underwhelming from start to finish. The fight was quite well done but seemed rushed to me. I would have liked to have seen it last a few more minutes.
Missandei tho :noah
:nsfw
https://mediacru.sh/vn_kkZqJzmLQ
:noah
morph into Edea Kramer brehs :beliYeah that definitely made the showrunners' change completely stupid. Plus that Maleficent/Edea costume at the end was super lols. Unless GRRM is setting up Sansa to fail again, the showrunners are just gonna ignore Varys finding out I guess.
Wasn't the point of her not revealing her identity to avoid Varys finding out? She should have asked that guard to leave. I'd trust Royce and the lady but come on.
After a two-week break, Sunday’s “The Mountain and the Viper” averaged 7.2 million viewers for its premiere airing and 8.2 million for the night. That basically matches the show’s series high, which the drama has now reached three times this season.
:nsfw
https://mediacru.sh/vn_kkZqJzmLQ
:noah
at least you have a tongue, Grey Worm :noah
Am I the only person who thought Emilia Clarke was pretty bad in that scene. Jeez.
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)They've set up the Tysha reveal pretty well. Tyrion has been criticizing Jaime all season for always doing what Tywin wants or expects, so by the time Jaime tells him that he didn't know Tywin planned to have Tysha raped, there's no way Tyrion will believe him. That's gonna be a sad scene brehs. :'([close]
also ADWD:spoiler (click to show/hide)Apparently Dany's final scene in episode ten will indeed be the farmer presenting his daughter's bones to Dany, and afterwards Dany having her dragons locked up/Drogon escaping.[close]
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)They've set up the Tysha reveal pretty well. Tyrion has been criticizing Jaime all season for always doing what Tywin wants or expects, so by the time Jaime tells him that he didn't know Tywin planned to have Tysha raped, there's no way Tyrion will believe him. That's gonna be a sad scene brehs. :'([close]
also ADWD:spoiler (click to show/hide)Apparently Dany's final scene in episode ten will indeed be the farmer presenting his daughter's bones to Dany, and afterwards Dany having her dragons locked up/Drogon escaping.[close]
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)Wait, does this mean no Stoneheart reveal? That's a bummer
Edit: read it wrong, Dany's final scene, hopes back up[close]
:nsfw
https://mediacru.sh/vn_kkZqJzmLQ
:noah
at least you have a tongue, Grey Worm :noah
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EW: 'Game of Thrones' whacks 'The Sopranos' to become HBO's most popular show everhttp://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/05/game-of-thrones-sopranos-ratings/
HBO has crowned a new ratings king. Fantasy hit Game of Thrones has finally officially passed mob drama The Sopranos to become the most-watched show in the premium cable network’s history, the network confirmed for the first time Thursday.
With two episodes remaining in the fourth season, Thrones has an average gross audience of 18.4 million viewers across all platforms. That surpasses the previous record set by the 2002 peak season of The Sopranos, which had an average gross audience of 18.2 million viewers per episode.
Last season of Thrones had an average gross audience of 14.4 million viewers per episode. The news comes as Thrones has set several recent ratings records for its own performance this season. The next episode of Thrones debuts Sunday, June 8, followed by the season finale Sunday, June 15.
I stopped watching that guy after he said that stories should tell instead of show. I thought he was done with GoT anyway
Episode was great.That's because this is the first time that she's actually done something besides bitch and cry. There was nothing to like before.
Nice to see people finally warming up to the most underrated ASOIAF character: Sansa.
Nabokov
I kept telling myself "he's going to die. he's definitely going to die." during that fight to prepare for the worst. it didn't work :goty2
I kept telling myself "he's going to die. he's definitely going to die." during that fight to prepare for the worst. it didn't work :goty2
That's why you read spoilers. :gurl
Minor quibble, maybe I'm forgetting somethingIt's going a little bit into ADWD yeah.
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)Poor Grenn... he didn't die in the book then, did he? :tocry[close]
Also,
AFFC/DWDspoiler (click to show/hide)Is it just me or are they really speeding up Bran's arc?[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)pyp nor grenn died in the book but they're so disposible it doesn't matter[close]
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8766869/
:dead
But alsospoiler (click to show/hide)Arya leaving The Hound.[close]
I worry that Obarth died or something :-\
I worry that Obarth died or something :-\
It is in a way also a conclusion of her arc, discarding the vengeance she was so focused on to realize a long-lost dream
ASOS spoilers:spoiler (click to show/hide)no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit[close]
ASOS spoilers:spoiler (click to show/hide)no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit[close]
Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."
I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.
So I fucking downloaded a LSH background for my computer like fucking years ago now at season 1. My husband only watches the shows so I've held on to it waiting in anticipation, using this shitty background of Dany and Drogon (which is awesome, but old now) so today I thought was the day and I was like, fuck yeah I'll use this after tonight and I fucking saved it on my desktop and I was gonna use it tonight fucking finally and ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!! One more fucking year!!!!???? And my husband totally doesn't get it, he's like just use it baby I won't even know probably. Yes you will fucking know. WtF!!! Thanks for listening, my only book reading friend doesn't watch the shows.
side note: I don't give a fuckASOS spoilers:spoiler (click to show/hide)no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit[close]
Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."
I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.
ASOS spoilers:spoiler (click to show/hide)no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit[close]
Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."
I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.
goddamit andrex, the fuck
spoilers you pod child
ASOS spoilers:spoiler (click to show/hide)no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit[close]
Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."
I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.
I have a theory about that...
ASOS/AFFCspoiler (click to show/hide)I think they've decided to cut Stoneheart out completely. If they were going to use her, they would have set up a potential reveal pretty easily by having someone mention at council meeting in King's Landing that a gang of brigands were going around hanging people. No mention. Makes me think they've decided to cut it. I hope they do, because Zephyr's head would fucking asplode.[close]
Sandor fucking Clegane losing to Brienne cheapens his character. He's the goddamn Hound, not Loras Tyrell. It worked to fix a book deviation, but I'm not a fan.
I kind of agree. I think it would make for a neat "oh shit" moment, but as far as storytelling goes, I much prefer
ADWDspoiler (click to show/hide)Manderly's revenge against the Freys/Boltons[close]
Sandor fucking Clegane losing to Brienne cheapens his character. He's the goddamn Hound, not Loras Tyrell. It worked to fix a book deviation, but I'm not a fan.
It was different in the book? How? (Spoilers are fine.)
Sandor fucking Clegane losing to Brienne cheapens his character. He's the goddamn Hound, not Loras Tyrell. It worked to fix a book deviation, but I'm not a fan.
I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.[close]
I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Eh, I like the TV version better. Shae's response to his story was on the money. A woman who barely escapes being raped then rewards her rescuer with sex? Sheeeeeeit[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)Haven't read the books for years and years, so I'm quite fuzzy on the details. The way I remember Jaime's revelation is that Tyrion's wife wasn't a whore and the meeting hadn't been arranged by Jaime. So she had been threatened (with rape I think?) and rescued at that point. Unless Jaime's lying or she was running an independent con? But I don't remember anything to that effect.[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)Haven't read the books for years and years, so I'm quite fuzzy on the details. The way I remember Jaime's revelation is that Tyrion's wife wasn't a whore and the meeting hadn't been arranged by Jaime. So she had been threatened (with rape I think?) and rescued at that point. Unless Jaime's lying or she was running an independent con? But I don't remember anything to that effect.[close]
I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Eh, I like the TV version better. Shae's response to his story was on the money. A woman who barely escapes being raped then rewards her rescuer with sex? Sheeeeeeit[close]
Eager to see Briene vs. Hound. Hoping it tops the fight scene between Jon and the Then guy from last week.
Eager to see Briene vs. Hound. Hoping it tops the fight scene between Jon and the Then guy from last week.
best fight in the series.
There was a nice longer shot in there, before the fist fighting. Overall it was well shot, however the filming of the sword part was off.
Jon v Styr is the best fight in the show. There are a couple great, edit-less moments in it. I think it's because Harrington did all his stunts and sword work because he's really good at it.
Eager to see Briene vs. Hound. Hoping it tops the fight scene between Jon and the Then guy from last week.
best fight in the series.
Really? I thought it was crap until they got close and personal, the shaking cam ruined it, then again most fights in this show have been crap so that's not really a big shoe to fill.
Great episode, really enjoyed the Hound/Brienne stuff and the ending was perfect. The Mountain stuff confused the hell out of the non-book readers I was watching with, and I wonder if that was better left till the start of next season.
Also jesus christ, how badly did they handle the Jaime/Cersei in the sept earlier in the season if they were just going to forget it anyway.spoiler (click to show/hide)I don't mind Lady Stoneheart not being included. It's an odd (but cool) inclusion at the end of the book anyway, and divorced from the rest of the action. Also given that she doesn't do shit anyway until the end of the next books, who cares. It's not like her story is moving the plot along any.[close]
Great episode, really enjoyed the Hound/Brienne stuff and the ending was perfect. The Mountain stuff confused the hell out of the non-book readers I was watching with, and I wonder if that was better left till the start of next season.
Also jesus christ, how badly did they handle the Jaime/Cersei in the sept earlier in the season if they were just going to forget it anyway.spoiler (click to show/hide)I don't mind Lady Stoneheart not being included. It's an odd (but cool) inclusion at the end of the book anyway, and divorced from the rest of the action. Also given that she doesn't do shit anyway until the end of the next books, who cares. It's not like her story is moving the plot along any.[close]
another thing people are forgetting is
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)This isn't a novel, where characters can come and go without logistical limitations. Having Stoneheart would require getting a great actress to fly out just to be a zombie in one scene. Fairley is currently on 24 and is filming other stuff. Plus as you said, it's so divorced from the rest of the season that I don't think it matters. Maybe they'll bring her in for the big "oh shit" moment of S5's premier, who knows. Or maybe not. There's a rumor Jaime will be in Dorne next season, which throws the Stoneheart arc off.
The worse thing is that Yahoo, HuffPo and other sites are outright spoiling it now.[close]
So this is going to be my first "the book did it better" thing. But, the book did the Stannis army reveal far better. Having then arrive just whole the battle at the wall is raging is such a great moment. Here they just... show up and it's kinda anticlimactic. Oh well.
Good ender overall though.
I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about
ASOSspoiler (click to show/hide)the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.[close]
Wait, you wish a narrator said "Tywin Lannister did not, in fact, shit gold" breh? Tyrion could have broken the fourth wall to say it into the camera, then wink?
:what
A problem I had with the skeleton fight was that the skeletons walked like regular people. They probably didn't have enough time to choreograph and practice with a bunch of stunt people moving and fighting as a hobbling skeleton might.
but it was a decent little scene nonetheless.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8876107/
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Is this thread book-spoilers-free? I just finished watching this and intend to skim through it.
Is this thread book-spoilers-free? I just finished watching this and intend to skim through it.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Kindly man is such a different type of character...would be really weird and not-Jacqen to take on that role.
Would rather he played some other "new" role and meet Arya while she's training.[close]
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8876107/
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I forgot thespoiler (click to show/hide)jaqen story in AFFC? All I know is who he is. Little else.[close]
Michelle Fairley confirmed thatspoiler (click to show/hide)Stoneheart is not happening at all. Sad day.[close]
Fuck this.
Stoneheart (fuck spoiler tagging it at this point) was one of GRRM's best ideas.
Michelle Fairley confirmed thatspoiler (click to show/hide)Stoneheart is not happening at all. Sad day.[close]
Fuck this.
Stoneheart (fuck spoiler tagging it at this point) was one of GRRM's best ideas.
It's a really cool gotcha shock moment at the end of ASOS, but it's likely the character was meant to just be a thematic bridging between other POVs and doesn't have a great importance going forward.Michelle Fairley confirmed thatspoiler (click to show/hide)Stoneheart is not happening at all. Sad day.[close]
Fuck this.
Stoneheart (fuck spoiler tagging it at this point) was one of GRRM's best ideas.
Tv-show spoilers:spoiler (click to show/hide)Probably means that Stoneheart won't be of any greater importance in the books then.[close]
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spoiler (click to show/hide)I think they'll head for Westeros by the end, perhaps not together though. But not right away. He pretty much confirms that Dany is heading back to Vaes Dothrak, as seen in the HOTU vision. I wonder how she's going to hear about Meereen getting fucked up lol.
The marriage I forgot about: Devan Lannister and his Frey bride, at Riverrun. Which the BWB has infiltrated (and Nymeria's pack just happens to be within the area). I have a feeling that's gonna get ugly.[close]
spoiler tags brehs
ADWDspoiler (click to show/hide)When the series was thought to be a trilogy, Martin planned on having Dany land in Westeros in the second book (ADWD), so she'd only be in Westeros for one full book (the third). Seems like that is still the plan. I guess she'll burn the shit out o Khal Jhaqo, take his khalasar, free Vaes Dothrak, and then learn that Meereen is under attack. I'd imagine she'll fly back to deal with that and then...leave? She can either leave with the Iron Fleet or the Volantis ships, which are carrying a bunch of slave soldiers that I'd imagine will switch sides.
She could get the Westeros by the last chapters...but I have a feeling that won't happen. In order to make it work I'd imagine the first third of the book would be Dany's Dothraki shit and the Meereen battle; second would be Dany returning to Meereen and dealing with the aftermath; third would be planning, a long absence in chapters, then one where she sees Westeros. Aegon got from Volantis to Westeros in one book, Dany could do the same if Martin skips the day-to-day aspect of such a journey. I just doubt he'll do it that way...
Still betting leper status that "Aegon" will be king by the end of TWOW.[close]
Preparations for Game of Thrones season 5 filming in Seville and Osuna under way
http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/04/preparations-game-thrones-season-5-filming-seville-osuna-way/
location picsspoiler (click to show/hide)(http://cdn.winteriscoming.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Osuna-Bullring-630x353.jpg)
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Context for that?To people who want him to finish the books before he dies.
It'll be like when you find out you're a Hylian in OOT. It really cheapens the whole story.
hmmmm, S5 is currently filming and this location is being used...
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http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/23/signs-point-game-thrones-season-5-filming-underway/
:ohhh
full book spoilersspoiler (click to show/hide)Tower of Joy flashback?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Mp8MzAjAY
I...doubt it, but it would be very interesting. The show will have to handle R+L=J eventually, I'd imagine this upcoming season will at least begin the hints. While I understand why the show has ignored most of the foreshadowing and prophesies in the books (viewers are already struggling to remember people's names, throwing more complicated stuff on top wouldn't work) I still feel they've written themselves into a corner in which they could be accused of shark jumping. Revealing Jon's parentage or "Aegon" will just make people look back and say hey, this was never hinted at or insinuated. They really wasted a golden opportunity to kill two birds with one stone in S2 with the HOTU. That could have addressed Jon and "Aegon" similarly to the way the book did (but with different imagery, obviously).
I'd imagine the tower will likely be used for either Arianne's imprisonment or it'll be CGI'd into King's Landing for when Cersei burns the Tower of The Hand.[close]
George R.R. Martin won’t be writing an episode for Season 5, talks The Winds of Winter prologuehttp://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/26/george-r-r-martin-wont-writing-episode-season-5-talks-winds-winter-prologue/
George R.R. Martin will be setting aside a little more time to work on the next installment of his book series, ‘The Winds of Winter’. He revealed yesterday at San Diego Comic-Con that for the first time, he will not be writing an episode of Game of Thrones for the upcoming season.
In a new interview with Vulture, Martin says that he will be taking Season 5 off “because I have this book to finish.”
He’ll also be clearing out his schedule, and won’t be making a trip to the set of Game of Thrones until next year. “I might make it over there early next year, but I’ve got to finish the book The Winds of Winter. So I’m making the trips I’m already obligated to make, but I’m not adding any new trips at this time. So I don’t think I’m going to do a set visit this year, sadly.”
set picis that? is that? it is isn't it? I can't wait.
(http://watchersonthewall.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/duilovoset1.jpg)
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I'm drawing a blank here - can someone clue me in to what that (probably) is?
https://gfycat.com/LegalRealisticIndianabat
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spoiler pictures for S5spoiler (click to show/hide)http://imgur.com/a/upR1V
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2jf0vy/spoilers_all_more_dorne_pics_from_spain/[close]
Lost's Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje Joins Game of Throneshttp://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/17/losts-adewale-akinnuoye-agbaje-joins-game-of-thrones#disqus_thread
Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, of Lost and Thor: The Dark World fame, has signed on to a role in the upcoming fifth season of Game of Thrones.
According to The Hollywood Reporter, not much has been revealed about the actor's place on the HBO show, but it is said that the actor's character isn't in the books and goes by the name of Malko.
http://youtu.be/6Q1vt9BX4Eg
What are the chances of this being solid PD-san? I know TT games are hit and miss for most but I loved both seasons of TWD and Wolf Among Us. Might impulse buy this shit this weekend while it's still $26