THE BORE
General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: StealthFan on May 24, 2015, 12:05:42 PM
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Goddamn. I remember being so hyped, despite not liking the final season. I was like "The finale will be amazing just watch" and nope. It was a huge wet fucking fart.
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Horrible television program.
:pacspit
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only watched it if I was visiting friends who had a hard-on for watching it. Always thought it was an ass show, just like Heroes. Not very shocked that neither is remember very fondly, even by supposed fans.
:thumbsdown
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Horrible television program.
Can not be quoted enough.
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Dibs on the 5 years since Creepy Stalker was banned OT.
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The best and worst television show ever.
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The best and worst television show ever.
niccas who were obsessed with the numbers and all the riddles of the show now act like they never liked it.
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The best and worst television show ever.
Really the best way to describe it. It ultimately ended up being a bit of a failure, but fuck was this show fun to watch week to week. The hype was so strong. I don't know if I'll ever rewatch it but I still consider it one of my most memorable tv watching experiences.
Damon Lindelof deserves the reputation he has though, especially because apparently everything he's written since has been trashed.
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Awful.
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If post-Lost Lindelof were just writing trash for his own intellectual properties that would be fine. The fact that he has been collaborating with strong filmmakers only to degrade potentially great films is extremely frustrating.
That being said, Season 4 of Lost is one of my favorite seasons of television ever. It was consistently excellent from start to finish.
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Season 4 :rejoice
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9ybaLbpQ-4
As bad as things got later, this was one of the greatest moments in TV history.
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S1 :rejoice
S2 :whoo
First half of S3 (http://i.imgur.com/qIRHMEM.png) Second half of S3 :obama
S4 (http://i.imgur.com/HHDZVs5.png)
S5 (http://i.imgur.com/Y0iIAOr.png)
S6 (http://i.imgur.com/xua8Y6G.png)
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Yep, season 5 started the nose dive and the season 6 finale just augered it right into the ground.
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That's my ranking too PD.
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Everything was awesome until it wasn't awesome.
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Hey, remember when the smoke monster was this cool, freaky entity that wrecked shop whenever it showed up, then you found it later that it was just this immortal emo guy who was mad at his brother? :goty
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Lost probably warped people's perspectives on what a finale should accomplish, and probably impacts how subsequent show finales have been viewed. I don't expect a final season or finale to wrap up everything that happened on the show - obviously some things should be left to speculation and debate. But the finale dealt didn't really give any actual closure hence why people end up listing a laundry list of things the show didn't wrap up.
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Lost was a bunch of dumb fun, but ultimately it was trash. Straight up bolded and underlined trash.
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Couple friends bailed early in S3, when the show started they were all excited because they speculated there were gonna turn out to be dinosaurs and cannibal tribes and monsters and shit, based on the first few episodes. At the time I was all "It's still a good show without all that," but looking back I think "Man, I wish I'd been watching THAT show instead."
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Remember when they were still introducing new mysteries in the last few episodes and you were thinking "That finale's gonna kick so much ass!"
:beli
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The final season (especially the finale) made me retroactively hate that show and everything about it. I've never had that happen with a show before, or since.
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The final season (especially the finale) made me retroactively hate that show and everything about it. I've never had that happen with a show before, or since.
seeing my friends go through this freshman year is still one of my favorite things about college. just a running theme throughout the year.
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My favorite thing about the finale was when Jack tells the smoke monster Locke that he shouldn't call himself that because he doesn't deserve to have Locke's name, and then a few minutes later they're having a knife fight in the rain and Jack yells out "LOOOOOOCCCCKKKEEE!"
That's how lazy they were, they didn't even catch that.
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The final season (especially the finale) made me retroactively hate that show and everything about it. I've never had that happen with a show before, or since.
seeing my friends go through this freshman year is still one of my favorite things about college. just a running theme throughout the year.
It was unbelievable how so many of friends had themselves convinced that the shit show was actually good (if not great).
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http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32500.0
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Solo used to post here? Wow.
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start here to read live finale reactions:
http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32500.1350
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I liked it. Still liked it now despite the ending not being great.
I guess for me I enjoyed it because I liked individual arcs. I never thought any of that stuff would pay off into some explainable thing or tightly conceived narrative.
I feel roughly the same about Ron Moore's BSG. I liked it because I enjoyed indivdual plotlines or characters. Not because it had any true narrative arc that was payed off at the end. Both shows ended dumb and were made up as they went along. I still enjoyed them both
:yeshrug
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the lore for this show was such trash. they spent years and years eking out random shit with fuck all resolution, and then season 6 came out and it was worse than the shittiest fanfic writer could ever churn out. I mean there was so much random stuff in there, and the best you can do is that sibling rivalry shit that was never even hinted at? just mind-blowingly shit. even the worst of the worst jrpg story is better.
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John Locke is still the most pathetic character in TV history.
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I thought Season 5 and 6 were fucking awful, but thought the finale itself wasn't bad. I haven't watched it since it aired so it might be worse than I remember.
The show runners can fuck off for telling all the fans think they had it all planned out and were leaving clues when they made it up as they went and littered the show with red hearings.
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John Locke is still the most pathetic character in TV history.
He was my favorite until he became a corpse. The REAL Locke had...15 minutes of screentime in the last two seasons. Pathetic. Fuck.
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http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32500.msg1127698#msg1127698
:dead
The only memorable episode I distinctly remember from S6 is the Richard origin ep, which was great.
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A show whose main attraction for that night was a fly produced more compelling television.
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The Richard episode :dead
"I want to live forever"
"I can do that" Says Jacob, like a fucking used car salesman. ffs. Almost as bad as the Jacob/MIB episode.
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I dunno that Jacob origin story was neck in neck with Jacks dumb tattoo flashback for the worst of the series to me. Truly awful everything and completely disposable at a time when I would have taken any god damn answers at all. I would have settled for knowing why that dumb bird kept screeching HURLEY
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They never should've explained Richard, and Jacob should've stayed in the periphery. Dude was cool in season 3, because he was shrouded in mystery. The worst part of Lost wasn't the questions, but the answers. Shit was so dumb.
Nicca stuffed a blowhole to make a god mortal :kobeyuck
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Let's be honest. 90% of the reason anything felt epic or important was because of Michael Giacchino's amazing scoring.
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http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32500.0
lmao, look at all the hoemoes in that thread that are like "Boo Lost sucked, I'm gonna go watch superior Sci-Fi show Fringe/Supernatural/V"
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK ME IN THE ASS
I see some things haven't changed. (http://i.imgur.com/QBctEQF.png)
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John Locke is still the most pathetic character in TV history.
"Don't tell me what I can't do!" :brazilcry
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Fringe is...alright I guess. I can't binge on it. Has no hooks for me, outside of the luscious Ana Torv.
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http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=32500.0
lmao, look at all the hoemoes in that thread that are like "Boo Lost sucked, I'm gonna go watch superior Sci-Fi show Fringe/Supernatural/V"
The series finale of V is amazing TV.
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sometimes I regret not watching the show as it aired. months of speculation about intelligent dogs and smoke monsters and magic numbers and pregnancy and latches.
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Fringe is still infinitely better than Lost
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The weird thing is they vehemently claim that they had the ending planned since the start, as a rebuttal to everyone saying they were making things up as they went along. So basically they had six years to come up with something better than the Jacob and MIB Across the Sea bullshit and couldn't.
Its so weird that the show became less grounded and flew off the rails after they got a guaranteed number of episodes to produce after season 3.
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I peaced out after the island moved. Not because an island moving is stupid, but because they SHOWED it happening. Even with top notch CGI that is some goofy shit. The fact that they showed it told me that these niccas lost the plot.
"We have to move the island" was one of the best cliffhangers tho. I was like...wat. I couldn't comprehend what was just said.
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I peaced out after the island moved. Not because an island moving is stupid, but because they SHOWED it happening. Even with top notch CGI that is some goofy shit.
:dead holy shit I can't believe this was a pop culture phenomenon
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I peaced out after the island moved. Not because an island moving is stupid, but because they SHOWED it happening. Even with top notch CGI that is some goofy shit.
:dead holy shit I can't believe this was a pop culture phenomenon
By season 4 popularity had waned. I mean...people still watched and it was still a big deal to fans but it wasn't getting 22 million views, ya know? It wasn't as zeitgeist-y at that point.
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Looks like ratings started slipping 1/3 into season 3. :obama
Still giving the masses a scarlet L in taste though. :ufup
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First half of season 3 was so bad. I am not shocked that viewers started to flee. Second half was GOAT tho :lawd
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I havent watched TV since Lost. Nothing comes close. TV today couldnt be any more uninteresting.
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I only watched the last three seasons. Kinda added to the mystery of the fuck was going on.
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I havent watched TV since Lost. Nothing comes close. TV today couldnt be any more uninteresting.
Nothing compares to Lost, even GoT and Walking Dead.
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I'll stand by my argument that the finale wasn't a bad episode - but it was a horrible finale. It felt like a reunion ep that would come 1-2 episodes before the finale.
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I don't get why Lindelof still gets work.
Both Prometheus and Star Trek Into Darkness had great reviews and made boatloads of money. Plus he probably knows and is friends with a lot of important people. It's not hard to get.
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Prometheus, certified fresh on Rotten Tomatoes and box office success.
I agree, he's a hack, but come on dude. Hollywood's about numbers and relationships and he has both.
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More just dumb. How bad is tomorrowland, by the way?
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Prometheus, widely considered one of the most disappointing films of all time?
By who? Because critics generally liked it.
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More just dumb. How bad is tomorrowland, by the way?
Reviewing bad and will probably do poorly. We'll see how much work he gets after that one.
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that has got to be one of the top ten worst scripts ever attached to a budget that size.
I'm pretty sure Orci and Kurtzman have written more than 10 big budget movie scripts, so that's not true.
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Prometheus was better than both Matrix sequels combined.
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73% is old and busted, Spy and its 100% is the new hotness.
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73% is old and busted, Spy and its 100% is the new hotness.
That's 4.5 Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2's better than Prometheus.
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Honestly, those ghost twins who could phase in and out of a solid state were a cooler idea than anything in the entirety of Prometheus.
They were so severely underused outside of that Highway chase.
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Prometheus is definitely on my list of most disappointing movies, alongside The Village lol...
Everything we saw before and during filming was great. The storyboards, the story leaks, the sets...it looked like a return to form for Scott. Well now it's pretty clear Scott is finished. I won't be tricked by him again.
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What I loved about Prometheus was that for a long time it slow rolled you with this "Alien on a planet" vibe and then BAM it went full Resurrection tier nonsense. :lawd
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The Matrix franchise pissed away its potential so much that it was pretty amazing to see it unfold. Definitely more noteworthy than Prometheus.
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Well that's what you all deserve for having expectations for an intellectual property revival :hitler
Star Trek rebooting itself in universe nu-52 stylee. :lawd
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i only saw bits and pieces of seasons 1 and 2 while my sister was into the show. i'm not sure i ever even sat through an entire episode start to finish. i enjoyed what i watched and, factoring in my occasional skimming of entertainingly hyperbolic forum threads in later years, ended up fairly satisfied with my Lost experience overall.
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I saw the first Matrix pretty late, after the hype. Around the time the third film was coming out iirc. But I definitely remember lots of complaints about how unsatisfied folks were with Reloaded. That's probably at the top of a most disappointing film list, at least in the last 10-15 years.
I still haven't seen all of Reloaded. I've seen multiple parts on TV over the years but have never sat down and watched the whole thing.
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I don't have an opinion on Lost, since I watched a couple episodes and tought nothing of it.
The fandom though was the worst. All these years they wasted on writing thousand pages essays on mysteries that were transparently bullshit only to backpedal like aggressive motherfuckers in utter denial once the conclusion arrived was both funny and kinda sad. Poster child of the worst you can expect from TV shows IMHO (I'll give it to mormapope : it was epic in its failure). At least for X-Files, you had a number of enjoyable self-contained episodes that couldn't be retroactively made less enjoyable because of a terrible finale ("I am the super soldiers").
Prometheus was hilarious as well. All this hype to ultimately do a shitty big budget version of Roger Corman's Galaxy of Terror and Forbidden World (Space flute included)... Writing is hack as hell and Scott has lost most of his visual touch, too bad because the sets and wardrobe are decent in places. But I guess we got the Scottish spider zombie out of that !
Like Lost, Matrix was always destined to be a mouse out of a mountain in the end. Filmmakers are not philosophers and vice-versa, at some point the whole "discourse" was gonna fall on itself hard. I kinda like Reloaded but I didn't expect really the films to be able to deliver on it.
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Really liked Lost.
Writing wasn't fantastic, nothing was ever really properly resolved and the acting wasn't always great either. But for some reason I loved it all anyway. The music was real good though.
Also pregnant Claire might have turned me on to pregnant women.
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There was plenty of opportunity to make a pure sci-fi Matrix sequel that put the philosophical shit on the back-burner. The elements are all there. Such a missed opportunity.
Yeah, but no need to regret the path not traveled...
As I said elsewhere, I'm not too big on TV shows, and the only one I have seen recently which have been able to deliver a convincing cohevise arc-story to its end was, surprisingly, Arrested Development (didn't watch the "new" season, though). I loved Babylon 5 when I was younger and they did a decent job at that too, even if anything past the Shadow war was so-so.
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The entire premise of Breaking Bad was ridiculous.
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Walt White would have been dead within two minutes of opening his mouth to talk shit. NOBODY gives a fucking about the purity of meth.
Also a druglord with no organization is ridiculous. irl these niccas got tons of bodyguards and lackeys, not just dipshits like Badger or Pete. It was completely unrealistic for this suburban ass nicca to be running around being #1, let alone with no protection or underlings.
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Dibs on the 5 years since Creepy Stalker was banned OT.
At least his thread made more sense than Lost ever did
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Walt White would have been dead within two minutes of opening his mouth to talk shit. NOBODY gives a fucking about the purity of meth.
Also a druglord with no organization is ridiculous. irl these niccas got tons of bodyguards and lackeys, not just dipshits like Badger or Pete. It was completely unrealistic for this suburban ass nicca to be running around being #1, let alone with no protection or underlings.
He got to be number 1 by knocking off entire operations too. :lol
Walter White Man's Burden
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Walt White would have been dead within two minutes of opening his mouth to talk shit. NOBODY gives a fucking about the purity of meth.
Also a druglord with no organization is ridiculous. irl these niccas got tons of bodyguards and lackeys, not just dipshits like Badger or Pete. It was completely unrealistic for this suburban ass nicca to be running around being #1, let alone with no protection or underlings.
He got to be number 1 by knocking off entire operations too. :lol
Walter White Man's Burden
Shit was redonkulous. I mean I was a fan and all but it was still implausible.
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Call another show implausible in a thread about Lost, brehs.
Lost is sci-fi. BB takes place in reality, as pulpy as that reality may be :ufup
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Doesn't matter. It bears repeating:
Call another show implausible in a thread about Lost, brehs.
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The entire premise of Breaking Bad was ridiculous.
Even an underfunded Baltimore surveillance team could have caught him in a month.
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Breaking Bad was a nerdy loser white guy fantasy (the same way Fight Club was) and a damn good one at that.
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Lost season 2 opener though :ohhh :mindblown (http://i.imgur.com/93RPzXp.png) (http://i.imgur.com/LHb2N35.png)
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Call another show implausible in a thread about Lost, brehs.
Having never really watched Lost (someone I was seeing subjected me to an episode), I have the utmost confidence in saying the plane crash in Lost was not nearly suspension of disbelief shattering as Breaking Bad's plane crash was.
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Call another show implausible in a thread about Lost, brehs.
Having never really watched Lost (someone I was seeing subjected me to an episode), I have the utmost confidence in saying the plane crash in Lost was not nearly suspension of disbelief shattering as Breaking Bad's plane crash was.
That shit was so dumb :snoop Fools won't accept it yet, but there was a lot of dumb shit in BB. I liked it, it was good, but there are whole half seasons (the first half of season 2 and the first half of season 3) that are poor. The show isn't flawless.
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Is it safe to say I still consider The Fly a filler episode and nothing more?
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The Fly is filler. It's well directed filler but it's still a goddamn bottle episode. I HATE bottle episodes.
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There's a bunch of dumb shit in all your favorite shows. The Don Draper/Dick Whitman thing was eye roll inducing for example. Almost the whole fifth season of the Wire is C-tier television. It's just the positives outweigh the negatives, no big deal.
I saw the first Matrix pretty late, after the hype. Around the time the third film was coming out iirc. But I definitely remember lots of complaints about how unsatisfied folks were with Reloaded. That's probably at the top of a most disappointing film list, at least in the last 10-15 years.
I still haven't seen all of Reloaded. I've seen multiple parts on TV over the years but have never sat down and watched the whole thing.
The Matrix would have been just fine on its own but it was the beginning of the era where everything had to be a trilogy. Then there was a bunch of hype for Reloaded, so they pumped out Animatrix, two shitty video games, and who knows what else.
Also there was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEJ3WRH3VAY
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I've been fixated on these videos for the last few weeks as I feel they are a good post-mortem on the show. Long but a lot of meat on the bones imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DGamgvcXw&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5JN2Nc8k2M&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mx4YZP2x9I&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfAPYKyu9c8&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6yUi1KhFe4&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-UES_bs08s&index=6&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKwF75ARSj8&index=7&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prwakmWl3m4&index=8&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI
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Rewatching for the first time since seeing the finale. the first season is still great. Watching with my girl who never saw lost
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Rewatching for the first time since seeing the finale. the first season is still great. Watching with my girl who never saw lost
Why would you waste her time. That's just mean.
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Rewatching for the first time since seeing the finale. the first season is still great. Watching with my girl who never saw lost
Why would you waste her time. That's just mean.
I lump Lost in with Final Fantasy games as things I’ve saved time by ignoring :rejoice
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Like I've said before I still like Lost despite that final season sucking and the finale sucking. But watching those videos made me realize how purposely full of shit and deceitful Lindelof and Cuse were. They were really bad.
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The Constant :aah
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Like I've said before I still like Lost despite that final season sucking and the finale sucking. But watching those videos made me realize how purposely full of shit and deceitful Lindelof and Cuse were. They were really bad.
I'm probably gonna watch through these tonight, its been a while since I thought about Lost and I was super invested in the show while it was airing. It bugs the hell out of me that these guys squandered the many chances they were given to deliver a satisfying ending. ABC literally gave them a guaranteed number of remaining episodes and a set end date I think after the third season. I remember them talking about what a big deal it was and how it would allow them to end the story right. And they still messed up the final season.
Still, it was a great experience watch the show week to week as it was airing. There are lots of great episodes and moments in that show. It was fun and exciting enough to make it all worth it even if they fucked up the ending.
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Lost was a show that was incredibly fun to watch as long as you never actually thought about it. The more you thought about it, the more you realized none of it made any god damn sense. I realized that very early on so I choose not to go down the road of ever actually thinking it was going to connect.
But the producers of that show when you see what they were constantly saying before and after the fact on all manners of things is enough to get you mad even if overall you liked the show. It's really unbelievable.
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thread is three years old.
I did a necro bump.
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It ended almost eight years ago you number challenged fuckwit.
The thread saying Lost was five years ago was in a flashback from three years ago.
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built up a bunch of mysteries and delivered on none of them. show was trash
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fuck this show
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built up a bunch of mysteries and delivered on none of them. show was trash
B-b-b--bu-bu-buuuut it was aaaaaall about the characters the whole time! :stahp
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Amir0x loved Lost, btw.
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Walt and the baby were his favorite characters.
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Rewatching for the first time since seeing the finale. the first season is still great. Watching with my girl who never saw lost
Why would you waste her time. That's just mean.
Lol ur right tho
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I mean I remember s6 being complete shit.
What if you just dont watch that entire season lol
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I suppose it depends.
If she couldn't care less about TEH MYSTERIES and love the boring background of TEH CHARACTERS, go for the whole thing.
If it's the opposite then ABORT.
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I've been fixated on these videos for the last few weeks as I feel they are a good post-mortem on the show. Long but a lot of meat on the bones imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_DGamgvcXw&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5JN2Nc8k2M&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mx4YZP2x9I&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfAPYKyu9c8&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6yUi1KhFe4&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI&index=5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-UES_bs08s&index=6&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKwF75ARSj8&index=7&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prwakmWl3m4&index=8&list=PLR-Yx2zNLl3m4R42-Z4fwybpdUwb4u-KI
These are great, fuck this trash ass show
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I've been fixated on these videos for the last few weeks as I feel they are a good post-mortem on the show. Long but a lot of meat on the bones imo.
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Only halfway through, but
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Lost was a show that was incredibly fun to watch as long as you never actually thought about it. The more you thought about it, the more you realized none of it made any god damn sense. I realized that very early on so I choose not to go down the road of ever actually thinking it was going to connect.
But the producers of that show when you see what they were constantly saying before and after the fact on all manners of things is enough to get you mad even if overall you liked the show. It's really unbelievable.
I wouldn't go that far. It was fun to think about and theorize/guess about what was coming next. I don't mean just on a macro "this is what's gonna happen in the very end" way (which I rarely did), but moreso the episode-to-episode/season-to-season "man I wonder what's gonna happen to x...oh shit remember y, what if that plays a part in z etc etc" speculation.
After awhile it became clear the show wouldn't answer most of the questions, but even that realization didn't stop me from being disappointed in most of the last season. There were some top tier episodes but overall it fell flat.
Overall the strength of Lost wasn't the plot, end game, etc. It was the characters and characterization. They really nailed it by creating a very large cast of characters worth giving a shit about, each of which had differing personalities and motives. One of my favorite things about the show was the power struggle between Jack and Locke, and how other characters became kingmakers. For instance you knew whoever Sayid helped between those two would win out. Or how they'd try to get Hurley on their side to influence others.
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Haven't seen a single episode of this show. Did I do good?
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Only 5 years, that isn't so bad, guess I don't have to feel old tod... oh. :goty2
The worst fanboy defence was "but it was a show about characters, so the rest doesn't matter" - bitch, every show relies on good characters, unless we're talking about documentaries or something. Comedies rely on characters, but if it isn't funny, the show is shit. And when a mystery show ultimately leads to a shit mystery story...
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Only 5 years, that isn't so bad, guess I don't have to feel old tod... oh. :goty2
The worst fanboy defence was "but it was a show about characters, so the rest doesn't matter" - bitch, every show relies on good characters, unless we're talking about documentaries or something. Comedies rely on characters, but if it isn't funny, the show is shit. And when a mystery show ultimately leads to a shit mystery story...
No it was meant to be Friends on an island that's all.
The best part about that defense is that they absolutely ruined pretty much every single major character :lol
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These videos are well made so far. I forgot that they actually knew when to end 3 years in advance.
The best part about that defense is that they absolutely ruined pretty much every single major character :lol
Why, you don't believe a character who spends the show searching for his wife would go into the afterlife with a random one night stand?
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:piss Abram's mystery box :piss2
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Remember the bird that said Hurleys name for some stupid reason? And that season where every other scene was just Matrix Guy screaming WALT at the ocean? I hate myself for watching this
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hot damn Lindelof is a complete and total moron. I would have dropped the show if his shennigans behind the scenes were more transparent, so it would have been clear that there's really no point in hoping for a good payoff.
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol fucking Jacob. I had already forgotten that he was the worst thing in anything ever.
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Lindelof is a complete hack. Somehow manages to completely fuck whatever he touches, and that includes things he didn't even start, or not on his own (Lost, Prometheus).
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What did lindelof do behind the scenes? Or is this just conjecture now that we know the emperor had no clothes?
To be honest, I don’t know that Abrams is any better. The fact that he started a Star Wars trilogy, without even a broad overview of what would happen in each of the three movies is nuts to me. If I had to guess, the reason there are no details on what the First Order is, or who snoke is, or what happened between rotj and TFA is, like Lost, because the creators never bothered to think any of it up.
I loved lost when it was on. In a sense it was my favorite show ever, but man did they fuck up the payoff. I Think about the fact that this show had like 24 hour long episodes s per season, and they still couldn’t find time to explain anything.
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Lindelof did The Leftovers, which apparently is pretty good in the second two seasons. Carlton Cuse, on the other hand, is bringing us the Rampage movie adaptation next month
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What did lindelof do behind the scenes? Or is this just conjecture now that we know the emperor had no clothes?
The videos have a plethora of Lindelof interview bits in which he clearly bullshits through questions or contradicts himself constantly, if not straight up lying.
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What did lindelof do behind the scenes? Or is this just conjecture now that we know the emperor had no clothes?
To be honest, I don’t know that Abrams is any better. The fact that he started a Star Wars trilogy, without even a broad overview of what would happen in each of the three movies is nuts to me. If I had to guess, the reason there are no details on what the First Order is, or who snoke is, or what happened between rotj and TFA is, like Lost, because the creators never bothered to think any of it up.
I loved lost when it was on. In a sense it was my favorite show ever, but man did they fuck up the payoff. I Think about the fact that this show had like 24 hour long episodes s per season, and they still couldn’t find time to explain anything.
You have to watch the videos to get the context. He basically lies all over place and constantly changes his story after the fact. That is far different than in comparison to abrams whom some people may or may not like but I don't see people saying he flat out lied about Star Wars. Darlton lied constantly about Lost.
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I just watched the first clip. The Walt bits are pretty bad. These videos are triggering me, but that dude did his lost homework for sure.
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I love the videos not because I always agree with him everytime (although I do like 80% to 90% of the time) but because they come from a real perspective of a fan who watched the show. It's not just pointless ranting from somebody who is hating just to hate which I can easily ignore.
Especially in the later videos he also focuses on the character and emotion side and why that fails down the stretch in lost and he just nails it. And that was always the key thing to me about lost. I'm not the type of viewer who is plot driven in the mystery sense. I understand the show made a big deal out of mysteries but I never cared about that on any deep level. I never cared about the numbers or the smoke monster or why there was a three toed statue, etc. So when the show failed on those fronts, I can intellectually understand why that isn't cool but if I'm being honest, it never overly bothered me.
I'm not saying its wrong that it bothered other people, but it just wasn't how I connected to the show. I connected to the characters and how they related to the plot. So those are the parts that pissed me off. How they treated Walt and Michael so bad by the end of the show pisses me off. The whole final season is pretty much a disaster when it comes to nearly every character. And he really digs into that. I just found myself thinking Preach! everytime he nailed what I had thought in my head but never verbalized.
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What did lindelof do behind the scenes? Or is this just conjecture now that we know the emperor had no clothes?
To be honest, I don’t know that Abrams is any better. The fact that he started a Star Wars trilogy, without even a broad overview of what would happen in each of the three movies is nuts to me. If I had to guess, the reason there are no details on what the First Order is, or who snoke is, or what happened between rotj and TFA is, like Lost, because the creators never bothered to think any of it up.
I loved lost when it was on. In a sense it was my favorite show ever, but man did they fuck up the payoff. I Think about the fact that this show had like 24 hour long episodes s per season, and they still couldn’t find time to explain anything.
The original script for Prometheus (before Lindelof got his greasy hands on it) was leaked at some point; it made like a million times more sense. It also wasn't laced with herpy derpy religious mumbles - just like Lost what turned into in the end.
And yeah, as others have pointed out, the guy is completely full of shit. To a point where he even has no issues throwing other people under the bus (with complete lies, btw) to cover up his fuckups.
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Damn, not sure if the final video's really worth 3 hours, but holy fuck is he tearing the final moments apart. :lol Reminds me of watching Plinkett Phantom Menace for the first time. We all know this was bad, but then some hardcore nerds give you an entirely new perspective into the badness. I also never rewatched Lost, so I totally didn't notice how I fell for some of these Chucke Cheese distractions retrospectively.
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Damn, not sure if the final video's really worth 3 hours, but holy fuck is he tearing the final moments apart. :lol Reminds me of watching Plinkett Phantom Menace for the first time. We all know this was bad, but then some hardcore nerds give you an entirely new perspective into the badness. I also never rewatched Lost, so I totally didn't notice how I fell for some of these Chucke Cheese distractions retrospectively.
I stopped around the halfway mark. He does repeat a lot of stuff and doesn't really make a whole lot of new points he hasn't made before at that point.
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Really looking forward to watching those videos tonight. Sounds very interesting.
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Lindelof did The Leftovers, which apparently is pretty good in the second two seasons. Carlton Cuse, on the other hand, is bringing us the Rampage movie adaptation next month
Cuse did Bates Motel, which is almost great, although there are some rough patches in the first two seasons.
And Rampage is going to be the next Jumanji.