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General => Video Game Bored => Topic started by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 02:42:26 PM

Title: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 02:42:26 PM
Fallout 4, Dishonored 2, Doom, and that dumb arena shooter thing will all be featured.

http://www.twitch.tv/bethesda
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 14, 2015, 03:23:52 PM
:noah
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 04:18:28 PM
Whoooooo in for Doom alone.

Even if it looks the same as it did last July, you guys are in for a real treat.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Yulwei on June 14, 2015, 05:45:00 PM
In for some Fallout 4. Not expecting much from Doom, but I hope it surprises me.

Dishonored  :trash
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: cool breeze on June 14, 2015, 06:28:46 PM
Doom, Dishonored, and Fallout 4 is making this E3 alright already.  if bethesda had deus ex, it'd have everything.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Kara on June 14, 2015, 06:30:57 PM
Plug.dj this?
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
Plug.dj this?

I tested it, and you can Plug.DJ live Youtube, but for some reason it breaks it up into 1 minutes chunks, so after every minute it refreshes. We can still use the chat, tho.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: cool breeze on June 14, 2015, 06:41:08 PM
is plug.dj basically irc?
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
I've never been able to get plug.dj to work properly
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 14, 2015, 06:45:03 PM
is plug.dj basically irc?

It's a chat room that lets a "DJ" play youtube videos for the room.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 07:16:31 PM
I've never been able to get plug.dj to work properly

:fbm
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 14, 2015, 08:26:30 PM
damn, I didn't even know Doom had a new game coming out.  Nice.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Sausage on June 14, 2015, 09:36:07 PM
Didn't know E3 stuff was starting already. I'd planned on going to the casino tonight with friends, I'll have to cancel and set up my battle station early I guess.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: cool breeze on June 14, 2015, 09:37:44 PM
youtube link if needed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KApp699WdE
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 09:40:27 PM
I've never been able to get plug.dj to work properly

:fbm

i blame the bore
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: cool breeze on June 14, 2015, 09:43:09 PM
PLEASE STAND BY

the music is making me so ready for a new fallout

Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2015, 09:44:20 PM
How much longer
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2015, 09:48:28 PM
Damn, haven't watched these two together since 2006/2007

 :tocry
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 09:50:17 PM
we're not IRCing this year?

fuck this. fuck the future.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 14, 2015, 09:56:10 PM
PLUG PLZ

still trying to connect me after registering

:neogaf
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: kingkitty on June 14, 2015, 09:58:41 PM
alright I just checked in, and it's the xplay people. what has Morgan Webb been doing?
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: thisismyusername on June 14, 2015, 10:00:11 PM
alright I just checked in, and it's the xplay people. what has Morgan Webb been doing?

World of Warcraft development or something.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 14, 2015, 10:02:43 PM
alright I just checked in, and it's the xplay people. what has Morgan Webb been doing?

Not enough of me, amirite? Hey-o!
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 10:04:21 PM
fuck off with that maple story buttplug.dj shit. IRC you homos.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2015, 10:05:04 PM
plug has cute icons and i can dance

plug wins
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 10:09:02 PM
plug doesn't work

whats the IRC?
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 10:09:03 PM
plug has cute icons and i can dance

plug wins

you can dance on your own while we throw hate words at suits.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 10:10:44 PM
plug doesn't work

whats the IRC?

irc.quakenet.org #thebore

just started this. i'm the only one there and i have no idea how to work this shit. no gods no kings.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2015, 10:12:53 PM
plug doesn't work

whats the IRC?

irc.browsingtheinternet.com

#evilbore
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 10:19:00 PM
plug doesn't work

whats the IRC?

irc.browsingtheinternet.com

#evilbore

go here. no more butt plugs. doom is slow as shit.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Purple Filth on June 14, 2015, 10:21:46 PM
so odds on those executions being QTE prompts?
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: kingkitty on June 14, 2015, 10:23:14 PM
Doom is lame.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Yulwei on June 14, 2015, 10:23:57 PM
Doom single player looks boring. MP might be cool.

May buy this in a Steam sale for 5 bucks
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: kingkitty on June 14, 2015, 10:24:54 PM
this custom doom looks fun though.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 10:25:41 PM
i'm not going to make my own shit doom out of your own shit doom bethesda.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Yulwei on June 14, 2015, 10:31:50 PM
There were never more than two or three enemies on screen...
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 10:32:40 PM
DOOM
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 10:33:40 PM
Doom haters :ufup
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: kingkitty on June 14, 2015, 10:34:47 PM
garbage
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: thisismyusername on June 14, 2015, 10:37:51 PM
Doom is lame.

No Carmack = no care, really.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 10:39:02 PM
I should probably go back and try dishonored
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 10:41:25 PM
i love when they do the dramatic unmasking like they've got some hollywood a-lister or something, and it's just a standard CG face.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 10:41:35 PM
HD version. shocker
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 10:42:22 PM
i'm going to use this as IRC since I'm a ratard and can't figure it out
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
all right, you're eating up all the fallout 4 time with this faux elder scrolls horseshit
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: headwalk on June 14, 2015, 10:44:08 PM
i'm going to use this as IRC since I'm a ratard and can't figure it out

it was a ghost town anyway. dunno if they're using that buttplug thing.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 10:44:11 PM
Dishonored 2 is real, guys. :tocry
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: kingkitty on June 14, 2015, 10:45:37 PM
elder scrolls hearthstone
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Cheddahz on June 14, 2015, 10:45:39 PM
Esch gonna eat with that Elder Scrolls card game  :jawalrus
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 10:46:13 PM
dishonored "finally runs better than 20fps" edition better not be all they got for this fall
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Yulwei on June 14, 2015, 10:46:28 PM
CG trailer :lenowned

just show me the fallouts
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 10:46:58 PM
great more cardgames

whats next a moba
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Huff on June 14, 2015, 10:48:48 PM
small little guy
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Kara on June 14, 2015, 10:50:05 PM
great more cardgames

whats next a moba

that's battlecry
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: thisismyusername on June 14, 2015, 10:52:43 PM
great more cardgames

I'll allow it. So long as the combat is more engaging than  :zzz :zzz :zzz :zzz :zzz :zzz Hearthstone's :zzz :zzz :zzz :zzz :zzz :zzz
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: Positive Touch on June 14, 2015, 11:01:07 PM
DAMN IT I MISSED DOOM
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: kingkitty on June 14, 2015, 11:21:10 PM
well, i'm hyped.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Tonight @ 7:00 PDT]
Post by: doctavius bonbon on June 14, 2015, 11:21:26 PM
oh man, november 10th release date for fallout 4.  dope.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 11:22:38 PM
DAMN IT I MISSED DOOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BwOkZPHOh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwGICm8t7Mo
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 11:24:53 PM
So hyped for Fallout 4.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 11:26:53 PM
hope you can tweak the voices like in saint's row
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2015, 11:28:03 PM
Bethesda proved themselves when it comes to Fallout 4. Way too early to say if the writing/story/setting is neat, but the gameplay is looking really good. Fallout still feels like its own thing instead of trying to ape things from Skyrim.

Doom looks fun.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 11:28:24 PM
Surely they'll have more than just two voices for the PC, I can't imagine they would cheap out there with all the detail they're putting into the game.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: eleuin on June 14, 2015, 11:29:19 PM
City building looks so good, like those wasteland defense mods x100
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 11:31:19 PM
I don't normally buy Collector's Editions of games, but I've bought both of the previous FO CEs, and I'll get this one. They always do really cool replicas of in-game items, like the lunchbox and bobblehead in FO3, and the cards/chips for FO:NV.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2015, 11:31:27 PM
The only thing I didn't get info I would have liked on the demo was questing/role playing. You have a really a really in depth origin so I'm curious how they'll handle the questing/gameplay, but everyone you knew is dead so maybe this time you'll be more proactive in questing compared to 3.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 14, 2015, 11:31:37 PM
...so, who else is gonna get a collector's edition for the pip boy?
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 14, 2015, 11:32:43 PM
The character creator looks a lot better and the player character model doesn't look like complete ass.

(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/8/8c/DefaultCourier.png/revision/latest?cb=20120818010147)
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Freyj on June 14, 2015, 11:34:50 PM
The only thing I didn't get info I would have liked on the demo was questing/role playing. You have a really a really in depth origin so I'm curious how they'll handle the questing/gameplay, but everyone you knew is dead so maybe this time you'll be more proactive in questing compared to 3.

The only thing I remember was "you can follow him into the house or shoot him in the face", which is basically Bethesda "choices" in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: cool breeze on June 14, 2015, 11:35:43 PM
people found this old list of rumors.  most are true, so multiplayer thing scrapped or announced later?

(http://i.imgur.com/8csskm3.png)
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 11:37:32 PM
He catches a lot of hell, but Todd Howard seems like a pretty cool dude. Kotaku used to have this podcast where they took call-ins, and Howard was a guest on one. People were letting him have it about ES and FO stuff (couple of them came off as real assholes), and he pretty much sat there and took it all and answered even the dumb shit I would have  :beli at.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 14, 2015, 11:39:01 PM
Yeah, he feels like a guy who is really passionate about making cool games, not just some PR talking head like some of the other studios trot out.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: huckleberry on June 14, 2015, 11:40:26 PM
I don't normally buy Collector's Editions of games, but I've bought both of the previous FO CEs, and I'll get this one. They always do really cool replicas of in-game items, like the lunchbox and bobblehead in FO3, and the cards/chips for FO:NV.

I keep all my vape stuff in my fallout 3 lunchbox - the only collector's edition I've ever bought. Guess I gotta make it 2 now.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Positive Touch on June 14, 2015, 11:45:27 PM
DAMN IT I MISSED DOOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BwOkZPHOh8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwGICm8t7Mo

YES YES YES THANK YOU RUMBLER AND THANK YOU DOOM I'M SO FUCKIN HYPED RIGHT NOW THEY PUT OPEN LEVELS IN AND THE MOVEMENT IS SO FAST FUCK IT LOOKS GREAT
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 11:45:32 PM
I mean, I'm not gonna run around the house naked wearing that pip-boy or anything*, but it'll look pretty cool on the desk next to the other FO CE stuff I have.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
*more than once
[close]
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Cheddahz on June 14, 2015, 11:45:55 PM
Fallout 4 won me over with the modular gun and armor shit. I'm such a sucker for that stuff :noah

Game looks a lot better in motion too.


DOOM looks ok. Gameplay looks really standard. The melee kills are nice and all but meh
DOOM looks like the type of game for people into gore, violence, and BDSM type of shit

spoiler (click to show/hide)
sign me up
[close]
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2015, 11:47:06 PM
The only thing I didn't get info I would have liked on the demo was questing/role playing. You have a really a really in depth origin so I'm curious how they'll handle the questing/gameplay, but everyone you knew is dead so maybe this time you'll be more proactive in questing compared to 3.

The only thing I remember was "you can follow him into the house or shoot him in the face", which is basically Bethesda "choices" in a nutshell.

Yeah, the black and white stuff where the "black" stuff is stuff no one with sense would do anyways (example: why bomb Megaton? What do you gain? When you bomb it, literally no one gives a shit anyways). Here's hoping they do better with that this time. Maybe voices will force them to curate more varied situations and role playing. Maybe.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 11:47:08 PM
Your character looks like they're gonna be having a lot of pre-war flashbacks. That'll be pretty neat.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Yulwei on June 14, 2015, 11:49:30 PM
Really don't give two shits about the base building. I want to explore the world not play Horde mode: fallout edition.

Crafting system looks like it could be really fucking cool, but I guess it just depends on how much you can actually customize the base shooting function of your guns. I'm kind of weary after playing BL1 where every gun felt the same for hours and hours.

Best thing imo is the fact that this is coming out so soon. I was fully expecting this to launch November 2016.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 14, 2015, 11:52:37 PM
So basically you're probably a mental case who wants to rebuild the world and your life back to the way it was before, but that's never gonna happen because

(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/all-my-friends-are-dead-20100731-092526.jpg)
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: eleuin on June 14, 2015, 11:55:30 PM
Fallout Shelter isn't on Android  :brazilcry
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 14, 2015, 11:56:29 PM
What I want to know is whether or not I can make my own town and play Sheriff.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Cheddahz on June 15, 2015, 12:00:23 AM
Fallout Shelter isn't on Android  :brazilcry
Coming out soon
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 12:09:45 AM
Fallout Shelter isn't on Android  :brazilcry
Coming out soon

Where does it say this? I couldn't find anything about it.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:10:31 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/610294314288021504
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 12:10:47 AM
Also, obligatory LULZ @ EUROS CRYING FOR FALLOUT IN EUROPELAND

CRY MOAR, EUROS
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 12:11:03 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/610294314288021504

:rejoice

I don't care if I get it months later, just wanna play. Looks fun to fuck around with.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: fizzel on June 15, 2015, 12:18:11 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHgi2MJWgAALnbj.png:large)

I'm more offended about the weapon wheel turning the game slow-mo.  :tocry
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:22:32 AM
Consider the courageous hellspawn out there alone tonight, triggered and traumatized by that demo.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 12:24:40 AM
Not that I disagree, but it's like, what the fuck were you expecting? It's fucking Doom. This is why it's much better to just fuck everything else, enjoy the fuckery, and not buy what the mass market gaming consumer culture tells you to buy. Find alternative games; they are out there. I found it gross and disgusting too, but I'm not going to say shit because I know that's what that audience wants. :yeshrug Don't like it? Find a new hobby. There are many more hobbies much more enriching than fucking video games Feminist Frequency.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:29:00 AM
Perhaps they'll take the criticism to heart and have a setting where you settle your differences with the minions of Satan via a rousing match 3 minigame.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 12:29:14 AM
I'm personally deeply offended that I can't preorder the collector's edition of Fallout 4 FUCKING ANYWHERE right now

 :maf
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 12:29:42 AM
So basically you're probably a mental case who wants to rebuild the world and your life back to the way it was before, but that's never gonna happen because

(http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/all-my-friends-are-dead-20100731-092526.jpg)

Still not as rad as playing Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines as a Malkavian. :obama
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 12:31:07 AM
Further also, I want to like Sarkeesian and agree with her but WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO BE SO FUCKING HUMORLESS AND UNLIKABLE.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:33:06 AM
You can be right about a few things and still be a fucking asshole
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 15, 2015, 12:33:32 AM
Why no to options tho???
https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/610277027367661568

Edit: Real talk though, McIntosh is a massive prick
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B33O3ucCQAAaDwO.png:large)
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:35:37 AM
Remember when Doom was a thoughtful  point and click adventure about exploring your sexuality? This world has turned to shit.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 12:36:12 AM
Isn't Dishonored full of a level of violence that wouldn't be considered normal too? :hitler
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:38:39 AM
You can play through without killing anyone (directly).
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 12:38:57 AM
Speaking of Doom, is there any point in executing enemies versus just blowing them apart? No matter what the enemies dropped ammo and other goodies once they're dead. I'd be fine if the executions don't give you anything extra, but it would be sorta shitty if that mechanic is pointless from the start.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:41:03 AM
I liked Pac-Man better when it wasn't just a celebration of gluttony and excess
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 12:42:28 AM
Hating on grotesque violence and gore :ufup

How did you pansies even end up playing videogames? Shit is, has, and always will be violent as fuck.

Eh, that's debatable. Prior to recent gens, violence in games has always been kinda cartoony even when it was really gore-y. It was kinda like Itchy and Scratchy I guess. But the better graphics get the more it will bother people. I don't see the issue. It's why I can't play MK9 or X but never had an issue with MK1-3.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: toku on June 15, 2015, 12:47:38 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/mh9wtnG.gif)
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/d10c399336a84456d2a2833eee1a62b3/tumblr_npr49wFLBV1uy5yfdo1_540.gif)
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2015, 12:51:30 AM
She gives awful criticism for the most part and I rarely agree with her. Complaining about the gore of Doom is about the oddest thing I've ever heard of. But there will always be a contingent of over-concerned moralists and parents who fall into her target audience.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 15, 2015, 12:51:42 AM
Fallout looked awesome until I realized the dialog is ripped from Mass Effect— 4 vague options with almost no correlation to the actual spoken lines. Thanks VA. Thanks Bioware.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 12:53:12 AM
Fine line between good intentions and demagoguery
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 12:54:02 AM
The base building aspect of Fallout 4 is perfect for post game content. On my recent New Vegas playthrough, a melee build with 10 luck combined with the Dead Money DLC helped me amass a huge amount of chips. I've done everything in the game except for the Old World Blues/Lonesome Road DLC and have 25,000 caps on me at all times. I also have the majority of unique melee weapons, looted and bought from traders.

Having a ton of caps or resources and being able to do nothing with either sorta ends a long playthrough. Being able to build anything using resources/caps would lead to really extravagant bases or towns. Being able to raid another person's creation would be rad.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: studyguy on June 15, 2015, 12:54:15 AM
Absolutely, positively not feeling that canned response from voice acted shit.
That's cutting the fucking legs out of the entire dialogue tree in Fallout. Fuck all of that.
:pacspit
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 12:55:32 AM
Hating on grotesque violence and gore :ufup

How did you pansies even end up playing videogames? Shit is, has, and always will be violent as fuck.

Eh, that's debatable. Prior to recent gens, violence in games has always been kinda cartoony even when it was really gore-y. It was kinda like Itchy and Scratchy I guess. But the better graphics get the more it will bother people. I don't see the issue.

Nah, people saw it as an issue back then. Doom, Mortal Kombat, etc. all had parents shitting themselves back in the day. In that "will somebody please think of the children?!" kind of way. It's nothing new.

I just think it's completely idiotic. It can not be your thing, but it's just entertainment. I for one am a big fan of excessive blood and gore from Horror flicks to old school anime to videogames. Again, it's just entertainment. What harm can it really do on it's own? And most importantly, who the fuck cares?


Just because parents and politicians were making news about game violence back then doesn't mean more realistic graphics won't make people more uncomfortable with video game gore.

I personally don't care. I don't buy those games and I limit the gore in the games I do play to a fault. I found Doom to be disgusting and gross, so it doesn't interest me. But I'm not going to bitch about it because it's fucking Doom. This doesn't make her overall criticisms incorrect it's just that she's a moron, because again, it's bloody Doom.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 12:58:47 AM
Personal characterization and role playing will definitely take a hit with voiced player characters. If that was the main draw of Fallout for a person, this new stuff would definitely be a bummer.

Personally though, the role playing bits of Fallout 3 and to a greater extent New Vegas complimented those games rather than make or break those games. I'm the type of person that likes to do most of the shit in a RPG, take a long break, and then do it again using different builds or options.

Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: OnlyRegret on June 15, 2015, 01:00:18 AM
So...
How about that Hearthstone Legends?

Cinematic trailers and card games don't mesh well.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: studyguy on June 15, 2015, 01:02:34 AM
Follow on the heels of the industry brehs
That last bit, I thought they were announcing their own amibos
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 01:04:13 AM
Also, the player character's backstory is easy as fuck to guess.

You get blown the fuck up, but survive as a wrangled ghoul. A team of people or doctors rescue you a bit after the fallout/war and experiment on you to de-ghoul you, to provide a cure for people that become ghouls. Eventually you're close to being cured and get put into some sort of goo chamber that will finish up the process/let you heal from all the experimentation.

Vault drama happens and you're the only survivor left in the fault. You come out of the goo tube, find ambiguous logs and records of what happened. Something is left behind telling you where to go after the vault is opened, starting the main quest of the game.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 01:05:38 AM
Personal characterization and role playing will definitely take a hit with voiced player characters. If that was the main draw of Fallout for a person, this new stuff would definitely be a bummer.

Personally though, the role playing bits of Fallout 3 and to a greater extent New Vegas complimented those games rather than make or break those games. I'm the type of person that likes to do most of the shit in a RPG, take a long break, and then do it again using different builds or options.

As a role player, I think I'm just going to wait it out, wait till the game loses steam and hype, then see how people feel about it. As good as it looks, there's too many variables that could make for a much worse game for what I want from fallout. Which is fine, a part of my apprehension towards 4 to begin with was that I highly doubt it'll top New Vegas. I realize now that I'm not really the target audience here and I'm fine with that. I have alternatives like Witcher 3.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: fizzel on June 15, 2015, 01:09:05 AM
I'm a spergling for the original fallout, my anguish for the death of decent dialogue trees and skill checks is long since spent.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: studyguy on June 15, 2015, 01:09:28 AM
$10 says you and your family get in, you get knocked out and go into a coma.
They put you in cryosleep or some shit while things go south.
Your wife and kid are gone, you gotta find them.

This is bethesda writing brehs. This is basically gonna be the flip side of Fallout 3, instead you're the parent looking for the kid or someshit.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 01:15:46 AM
As a role player, I think I'm just going to wait it out, wait till the game loses steam and hype, then see how people feel about it. As good as it looks, there's too many variables that could make for a much worse game for what I want from fallout. Which is fine, a part of my apprehension towards 4 to begin with was that I highly doubt it'll top New Vegas. I realize now that I'm not really the target audience here and I'm fine with that. I have alternatives like Witcher 3.

When it comes to what dialog choices will be provided, I can only see three or four "main" role playing narratives for the player character.

A. Attempting to make the world like it once was, peaceful suburbia, normalized civilization. The quest to reclaim the past.

B. "Fuck it" attitude. You despise what life has become, all the things you lost. You'll be a huge, evil asshole that wants to ruin the world your own way.

C. Neither of those attitudes apply, you want to do your own thing for the benefit of yourself and maybe some others. You don't want to fix or ruin the world, you just want to make it better for yourself.

New Vegas has a lot of ambiguity when it comes to your role in the Wasteland and the roles of others. I don't see that ambiguity coming back at all.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: studyguy on June 15, 2015, 01:19:45 AM
Obsidian was behind New Vegas, Beth writing is like a fart in the wind compared to it.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111120758/3192895-1901451058-250q8.jpg)
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 01:23:19 AM
So...
How about that Hearthstone Legends?

Cinematic trailers and card games don't mesh well.

hearthstone has sparkles n shit, digital card games were a mistake they're nothing but trash *plays with fetchlands irl*
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Shaka Khan on June 15, 2015, 01:23:23 AM
$10 says you and your family get in, you get knocked out and go into a coma.
They put you in cryosleep or some shit while things go south.
Your wife and kid are gone, you gotta find them.

This is bethesda writing brehs. This is basically gonna be the flip side of Fallout 3, instead you're the parent looking for the kid or someshit.

Thank you, Last of Us :rejoice
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2015, 01:24:09 AM
The only doom is BRUTAL DOOM
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 01:25:02 AM
Obsidian was behind New Vegas, Beth writing is like a fart in the wind compared to it.
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111120758/3192895-1901451058-250q8.jpg)

it's easy to write a fuckton of quests when you don't have to write an engine
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Timber on June 15, 2015, 01:27:42 AM
half those new vegas quests were, like, passing a single speech check. somehow with 4 loading screens.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 01:28:27 AM
As a role player, I think I'm just going to wait it out, wait till the game loses steam and hype, then see how people feel about it. As good as it looks, there's too many variables that could make for a much worse game for what I want from fallout. Which is fine, a part of my apprehension towards 4 to begin with was that I highly doubt it'll top New Vegas. I realize now that I'm not really the target audience here and I'm fine with that. I have alternatives like Witcher 3.

When it comes to what dialog choices will be provided, I can only see three or four "main" role playing narratives for the player character.

A. Attempting to make the world like it once was, peaceful suburbia, normalized civilization. The quest to reclaim the past.

B. "Fuck it" attitude. You despise what life has become, all the things you lost. You'll be a huge, evil asshole that wants to ruin the world your own way.

C. Neither of those attitudes apply, you want to do your own thing for the benefit of yourself and maybe some others. You don't want to fix or ruin the world, you just want to make it better for yourself.

New Vegas has a lot of ambiguity when it comes to your role in the Wasteland and the roles of others. I don't see that ambiguity coming back at all.


It's highly likely the game will already be a downgraded experience. A large part of text onlys charm is, well, you can you make a low intelligence character and you can do this.

(http://i.imgur.com/9U6dn8Nh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qUMlANhh.jpg)

In New Vegas, dialogue is made according to your personality and stats and varies wildly. This variety will likely be impossible to replicate with voices.

Will a low intelligence character in Fallout 4 talk like they're stupid? Doubt it. Fallout is a game series about taking a character and creating their story. Most RPGs with voice acting are less about crafting the players story through role playing and more about bending the main characters personality. For example, Shepard will always be Shepard no matter what responses you pick. But in Fallout you craft a character from scratch and create the personality you want. Voice acting for the PC has no place in Fallout. They could have made 4 be more about player interaction, but it seems they've sacrificed that for more storytelling, which isn't surprising given Skyrim.

Like most games today, passing on it and seeing what people think of it months later seems to be the way to go.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Hock on June 15, 2015, 01:29:10 AM
I can't blame anyone for finding the violence in 2015 Doom too much, its a huge step up (or down) in the gore department. My parents didn't give a shit about me playing MK as a kid, but I don't think they would be as lenient if I were a five year old trying to play MKX. Not gonna go as far as to say anyone who's excited for Doom is a psycho, but I'm glad they're saying it. I'm sure KiA is in flames right now.

Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 01:38:09 AM
Seriously, saying MK1 or 2 has the same amount of gore as 10 is kinda...out there.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2015, 01:42:22 AM
Graphics have gotten better and more realistic. Ripping somebody's head off is ripping somebody's head off. The only reason they didn't do the fatalities of now versus then is they didn't have the animation capabilities, the resolution, or the storage back then. It would be nice when people talk about violence in videogames if they backed up their talk with any actual science or studies or anything. Other than I'm offended by something so therefore it must be awful.

You perceive it as "catoony" because the graphics suck in comparison. The same way shitty special effects from the past in movies seem cartoony. But that was never the intention. They were always doing the best they could within the limitations they had.

Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 01:44:44 AM
$10 says you and your family get in, you get knocked out and go into a coma.
They put you in cryosleep or some shit while things go south.
Your wife and kid are gone, you gotta find them.

This is bethesda writing brehs. This is basically gonna be the flip side of Fallout 3, instead you're the parent looking for the kid or someshit.

Nah, they were pretty clear that you play as the kid. Your parents are deeaaaaaaad.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 01:46:20 AM
I'd argue gore and violence depiction has been made more vivid in mainstream games, but there have always been gruesome or fucked up games with vivid depiction. Phantasmagoria came out in the mid 90's and it still has really disgusting stuff. Postal 1 came out in 97 and the last level involves bombing a elementary school.



Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: thisismyusername on June 15, 2015, 01:48:06 AM
The only doom is BRUTAL DOOM

Eh, throw in Doom 1 and 2, Master Levels. I'll agree with these.

I don't mind Doom 3, but I don't need a Doom 3-2 that Doom 4 is pretty much attempting to be, just now without the darkness that Carmack was attempting to use for atmosphere. Screw that.

Also, the player character's backstory is easy as fuck to guess.

You get blown the fuck up, but survive as a wrangled ghoul. A team of people or doctors rescue you a bit after the fallout/war and experiment on you to de-ghoul you, to provide a cure for people that become ghouls. Eventually you're close to being cured and get put into some sort of goo chamber that will finish up the process/let you heal from all the experimentation.

Vault drama happens and you're the only survivor left in the fault. You come out of the goo tube, find ambiguous logs and records of what happened. Something is left behind telling you where to go after the vault is opened, starting the main quest of the game.

You know, this is somewhat sad that it's probably the writing Beth is going to do.

Anyway, I said it before and it needs repeating: I don't get the hype for Fallout 4. It's going to be an Elderscroll's mod just with guns instead of actual roleplaying.

"But New--"

I haven't played New Vegas, granted--and yes, I need to. But that's Obsidian, not Beth. And I doubt Obsidian was able to change the gameplay systems to all S.P.E.C.I.A.L. to be used as an actual roleplay. Maybe it does, but if Beth doesn't actually have that in as anything more than lip-service: :trash to the entire Fallout 4 hype people. You guys should just work on putting the "VATS" system and guns into the Elderscroll's proper and save ya'llself's $60.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 01:48:51 AM
Nah, they were pretty clear that you play as the kid. Your parents are deeaaaaaaad.

I think the Todd Howard dude said "I'm not going to spoil it, but the main character survives the blast and awakens 200 years later."

Paraphrased of course. Also, the main character is in shock and awe that he's been away for 200 years, the robot also recognized him immediately.


EDIT: In the end it doesn't matter though. The fam is gone and dead.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2015, 01:51:47 AM
I'd argue gore and violence depiction has been made more vivid in mainstream games,

I'd argue everything graphically has been made more vivid. Whether its lighting. Whether its textures. Whether its violence. The argument that things are vividly violent is correct. Because everything graphically is more vivid and photo-real. But it comes down to intentions and character and tone. In GTA 5 there are mission types where you purposely run around and kill gangbangers, army members, hipsters, etc. I honestly don't see a lick of different between that and Doom or some of the heinous stuff you did in prior GTA's except it looks better.

If this was Hatred I guess, I would understand the argument. Because the tone and intention of that clearly seems so at odds with satire, or irony, or even bad-assery as the mainstream has come to know it.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 01:54:53 AM
This is the only real Doom:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NURfvG0lfpA
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 01:56:24 AM
Graphics have gotten better and more realistic. Ripping somebody's head off is ripping somebody's head off. The only reason they didn't do the fatalities of now versus then is they didn't have the animation capabilities, the resolution, or the storage back then. It would be nice when people talk about violence in videogames if they backed up their talk with any actual science or studies or anything. Other than I'm offended by something so therefore it must be awful.

I'm not offended at all. It's fucking Doom. Doesn't mean I can't think it's fucking gross.

They may not have had the storage back then but that doesn't stop the fact that my parent bought and let me play Mortal Kombat. I doubt they'd do the same with MKX. Realistic graphics means something. When GTAIV came out I felt bad when I killed npcs. You ask for studies when it's pretty clear that the more realistic graphics are the easier it is to create empathy despite being a game.

http://venturebeat.com/community/2013/04/22/on-empathy-and-realism-in-video-games/
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Sho Nuff on June 15, 2015, 01:57:27 AM
I just downloaded Zandronum+DoomSeeker and played a solid hour of co-op Brutal Doom

I'm old, I like old things
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 01:57:57 AM
Doom isn't gross; let's be real here, it's not like we're talking about a crime against nature on the level of The Sims or anything.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mormapope on June 15, 2015, 02:03:29 AM
Having played Hatred, I've felt much worse for doing things to other NPCs in other games of all kinds. The hate Hatred initially got ended up being unfounded. Its a boring game with a videogamey as fuck depiction of mass shootings.

For example, you enter a vacation lodge and start blasting people. One NPC says "That guy is crazy!", while just standing there. Other NPCs yell "he's got a gun" or "I'm getting out of here!"

Terribad dialog with no genuine umph or levity. Combine that with the concept of making a mass shooting a chore, and you have a mediocre game that's shocking for ten seconds.

Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2015, 02:04:51 AM
I'm not offended at all. It's fucking Doom. Doesn't mean I can't think it's fucking gross.


Point made. We all think something is gross individually. Unless there is a larger point to be made, I'm not sure where to go with it then unless we specially want to bring this argument to all games instead of cherry-picking a small segment of videogames.

There are lots of things that offend me or I don't agree with. I don't know what the argument is though other than whether you think 10 year old you should be playing Mortal Kombat 10. I'm fine with saying 10 year old you shouldn't be playing MK 1 or MK 10 and ripping people's heads off. 10 year old you probably also shouldn't watch John Wick. Or a do a lot of things. I'm fine with that.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Freyj on June 15, 2015, 02:24:57 AM
RE: Doom: people (see: paid audience members) cheer for every announcement and big action moment in these conferences. Not addressing the level of violence, but she's inventing outrage for the sake of her argument.

As for the town building: I really hope we get better options than "ruined tin shacks". There's quite enough of that to see in the Wasteland.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: a slime appears on June 15, 2015, 02:59:56 AM
Fuck yes, DOOM!
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Kara on June 15, 2015, 03:25:24 AM
It would be nice when people talk about violence in videogames if they backed up their talk with any actual science or studies or anything. Other than I'm offended by something so therefore it must be awful.

To my knowledge there are no comprehensive studies on this subject (unless you want to really extrapolate from childhood development studies), so you're just cutting off potentially reasoned thought by demanding this.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 06:27:26 AM
Go back and read some original reviews of the first Friday the 13th movie, or Halloween, My Bloody Valentine, etc. You'll see a lot of similar sentiments expressed there, lots of "people were laughing and cheering at murder" and "I fear for the future" hand-wringing. Yet here we all are, still an intact society 35 years later, where you can watch any of those movies uncut on television and they seem tame in comparison to an average episode of Hannibal or Walking Dead. We didn't devolve into packs of cannibalistic rape raiders, and progress didn't stop. No matter what time period, there's always someone on the street corner wearing their "The End Is Nigh" placard and loudly proclaiming their outrage. Same old shit, different clothes and hairstyles. Meanwhile, the rest of the world carries on, as always.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: huckleberry on June 15, 2015, 08:22:09 AM
http://www.amazon.com/Fallout-4-Pip-Boy-Edition-PC/dp/B00ZOFPNTY/ref=lh_ni_t?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=723d46db5d1b4e19995b0782258dd703&ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER (http://www.amazon.com/Fallout-4-Pip-Boy-Edition-PC/dp/B00ZOFPNTY/ref=lh_ni_t?tag=slicinc-20&ascsubtag=723d46db5d1b4e19995b0782258dd703&ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER)



:drool
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 09:03:14 AM
Go back and read some original reviews of the first Friday the 13th movie, or Halloween, My Bloody Valentine, etc. You'll see a lot of similar sentiments expressed there, lots of "people were laughing and cheering at murder" and "I fear for the future" hand-wringing. Yet here we all are, still an intact society 35 years later, where you can watch any of those movies uncut on television and they seem tame in comparison to an average episode of Hannibal or Walking Dead. We didn't devolve into packs of cannibalistic rape raiders, and progress didn't stop. No matter what time period, there's always someone on the street corner wearing their "The End Is Nigh" placard and loudly proclaiming their outrage. Same old shit, different clothes and hairstyles. Meanwhile, the rest of the world carries on, as always.

Putting lead in gasoline did far more to wreck society than a violent movie or video game ever did.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: mjemirzian on June 15, 2015, 09:29:57 AM
I liked Fallout 3 and New Vegas, maybe New Vegas a bit more after the great expansion content.

Can't believe Fallout 4 is arriving this year. I hope they have some kind of hardcore/survival mode built in, but if not mods will solve everything.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 06:59:27 PM
that fucking pip boy edition is already sold out everywhere :beli

Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 07:21:10 PM
Goddamnit, I was waiting until I got paid on Weds

:fbm
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 15, 2015, 07:52:30 PM
Seeing the Fallout stuff has made me want to play fallout. I was going to play Fallout 3 but having some issues getting it running. Not sure if its a windows 10 issue or just a my computer issue so I installed New Vegas instead which seems to work.

Added these mods and followed this guide

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas

although its crazy to me that it seems to run worse than a heavily modded version of Skyrim does on my computer.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 15, 2015, 07:57:00 PM
Never underestimate Obsidian's ability to break games, Stoney. NEVER.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Great Rumbler on June 15, 2015, 09:12:59 PM
Never underestimate Obsidian's ability to break games, Stoney. NEVER.

Maybe Bethesda should have put more effort into Q&A. :hitler

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Bethesda, Q&A :neogaf
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Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 15, 2015, 09:14:05 PM
Fallout NV is more stable than 3, don't listen to Triumph
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 15, 2015, 09:14:32 PM
untrue, shit stuttered like porky pig at release
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: huckleberry on June 20, 2015, 08:54:00 PM
Seeing the Fallout stuff has made me want to play fallout. I was going to play Fallout 3 but having some issues getting it running. Not sure if its a windows 10 issue or just a my computer issue so I installed New Vegas instead which seems to work.

Added these mods and followed this guide

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas

although its crazy to me that it seems to run worse than a heavily modded version of Skyrim does on my computer.

Stoney you still having problems with Fallout 3? Is it the Steam GoTY? If so, it could be a GFWL problem - this worked for me to remove it.

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/1086/?tab=2&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D1086&pUp=1 (http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/1086/?tab=2&navtag=%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D1086&pUp=1)
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Stoney Mason on June 20, 2015, 09:17:26 PM
Thx. I've already started the New Vegas playthrough but I'll come back and try this afterwards.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: huckleberry on June 20, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
No prob. Just had to help my brother fix his install. Make sure to set your default resolution in the launcher so F3 will creat a .ini file first then the patcher should work.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 10:21:31 PM
untrue, shit stuttered like porky pig at release

at release. wasn't talking about at release. right now? it's more stable.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Eel O'Brian on June 20, 2015, 10:25:18 PM
true, gfwl and bethesda generally not giving a fuck about updating their shit means you have to put in some work to get FO3 running proper
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2015, 10:45:34 PM
NV doesn't have GFWL so it's another bonus point. Thankfully GFWL is pretty much dead.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Freyj on June 20, 2015, 10:57:20 PM
I've played about 40 hours of FO3 in the last 2 weeks and I would bet any amount of money that I crash at least once, maybe twice within an hour of playing it.

Much worse than NV.
Title: Re: Bethesda Pre-E3 Showcase [Fallout 4 on November 10]
Post by: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2015, 10:59:56 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/9U6dn8Nh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/qUMlANhh.jpg)


Me, irl  :'(