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General => The Superdeep Borehole => Topic started by: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:22:31 PM

Title: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:22:31 PM
As most of you know the afi top 100 of all time is the "standard" and what is most used to know what are considered classics. AFI is redoing the list for the first time since 1997. WILL LORD OF THE RINGS TOP CITIZEN KANE!?!?!

Titanic will probably get on the list lol. Will be interesting to see how different it is.

Other noteworthy films I expected to be in it are Saving Private Ryan and perhaps the departed since it is so fresh in critics minds. It airs at 8 PM tomorrow on CBS.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: brawndolicious on June 19, 2007, 10:26:43 PM
standard?

okay, if it gets Haggis' shitty crash on there than it's a completely worthless standard.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 19, 2007, 10:27:49 PM
How bout you post the old list to foster some god-damned discussion?
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 19, 2007, 10:34:07 PM
How bout you post the old list to foster some god-damned discussion?

He's triflin like that
http://www.filmsite.org/afi100filmsA.html
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:36:00 PM
standard?

afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.

btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 19, 2007, 10:38:01 PM
Can't wait to see LOTR on there :bow
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:38:42 PM
Can't wait to see LOTR on there :bow
I bet fellowship will make the list
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 19, 2007, 10:40:00 PM
btw...

Rear Window>>>>>Psycho. And I think Psycho is awesome so no hatin. But Rear Window is one of the best acted, directed, and best written films I've ever seen. Plus it's very technically impressive. I need to revive my top ten and put it in there
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: brawndolicious on June 19, 2007, 10:51:16 PM
afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.
btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN
there's a high chance crash will be on there so I personally don't see how anybody could give a shit.

not even a small shit.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:52:38 PM
afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.
btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN
there's a high chance crash will be on there so I personally don't see how anybody could give a shit.

not even a small shit.
oscars gave crash best picture winner and people still give a shit about the oscars, they will still give a shit about afi and I am pretty damn sure crash WON'T make the list. It will still be 90% movies from before 1980's.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: brawndolicious on June 19, 2007, 11:15:44 PM
oscars gave crash best picture winner and people still give a shit about the oscars, they will still give a shit about afi and I am pretty damn sure crash WON'T make the list. It will still be 90% movies from before 1980's.
That comparison doesn't really make sense since crash was basically a pity oscar that nobody really cared about.  The only worthwhile reason I could see for oscar's is betting on what will win and no, you never bet on what you like.

If it was about say a SPECIFIC part of the movie that was impressive (writing, special effects, etc.) then it could have more of a reason and make a decent discussion but this has completely different types of movies and a paragraph.  Why give a fuck really?

I'd rather play wii sports.  Boxing.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 11:30:46 PM
Uh..dudes...

This is the American Film Institute list.  Lord of the Rings was made in New Zealand with a mostly non-American cast, what makes you guys think it's going to be on this list?
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: EvilBoris on June 19, 2007, 11:42:59 PM
 The Graduate at No. 7.... How did that happen?
Anyway, scanning through the list I'm pretty keen on the crowd pleasing spirit of its compilation. LA Confidential has a strong chance in joining up the higher ranks. A Fish Called Wanda deserves more recognition...
12 Angry Men is the kind of movie that would also fit right in list.... I'm not sure how their radar didn't pick that one up earlier.

 Oh, and David Lean was a brit who usually worked with a non-American cast, and Kubrick mainly did his job from England, right? No trouble for their films to be on the list.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 11:43:03 PM
Uh..dudes...

This is the American Film Institute list.  Lord of the Rings was made in New Zealand with a mostly non-American cast, what makes you guys think it's going to be on this list?
it's on the list of nominee's for the top 100. AFI has listed it as able to win. It was part of the 1000 films sent to critics to pick the top 100 from.

If it is filmed in english it can be on the list.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 11:43:40 PM
Just because it was financed by New Line? That's dumb.  I thought AFI was a bit more discriminating about that sort of thing.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 11:44:11 PM
Just because it was financed by New Line? That's dumb.
because it was filmed in english I believe. I saw british films on the list when it was shown months back.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 20, 2007, 12:38:05 AM
The Third Man?  Okay, this list is officially stupid.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 20, 2007, 12:43:45 AM
I need to see that movie
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 01:22:13 AM
Just because it was financed by New Line? That's dumb.  I thought AFI was a bit more discriminating about that sort of thing.
The Third Man is on the list.

What the fuck?  How could they justify that?

We can now disregard this:

afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.

btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN

AFI awards don't mean shit if the rules are going to be changed so that EVERYTHING is American.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 20, 2007, 01:49:43 AM
The Third Man should be on the BFI list, if anything.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 01:55:05 AM
The Third Man should be on the BFI list, if anything.

It is.  It's number 1.

Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 02:02:49 AM
FYI, I just looked at the ballot.  There are 400 candidates, not 1000.  So basically, 25% of the candidates will appear on the list.  There's really not that much selecting to be done.  This is stupid bullshit. . .

And about the nomineees, well, let's just say SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE is on the list.  Truly one of the 400 greatest American movies.  Well, less than 400, since there are non-American movies on the list.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 20, 2007, 02:17:20 AM
I suspected it before, but now I'm sure.  AFI is bullshit.  I mean, you only have to look at their other lists like "100 years...100 screams" and "100 years...100 laughs."  EL OH EL

This list is for the ignorant dumbasses who'll watch the AFI special on TV, and the fact that they're including options like SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE only cements my belief.  I prefer the Sight and Sound list, it lets the filmmakers and critics fill out the questionnaires with whatever movies they want, no matter how famous, cheesy, or obscure.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 02:28:05 AM
I suspected it before, but now I'm sure.  AFI is bullshit.  I mean, you only have to look at their other lists like "100 years...100 screams" and "100 years...100 laughs."  EL OH EL

This list is for the ignorant dumbasses who'll watch the AFI special on TV, and the fact that they're including options like SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE only cements my belief.  I prefer the Sight and Sound list, it lets the filmmakers and critics fill out the questionnaires with whatever movies they want, no matter how famous, cheesy, or obscure.  Erin Brockovich is on the list. . .

It's just a bad list of candidates.  There are probably actually 250 viable candidates on the list, and half of them are ol or silent shit that few will vote for these days.

I quit looking, but there are tons of really stupid things on there.  All 3 LOTR movies are on it.  Rocky Horror (which isn't an American movie, and probably shouldn't even be on the list) is there.  POTC 1 is on it.  Shrek. There's Something About Mary. Spider-Man 2. Jurassic Park. American Beauty. A Clockwork Orange (I guess this is debatable--Kubrick is an American, but it was written by a brit, the money was british, and the cast and crew were british).  Paul Faggis's Crash is indeed on the list.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 02:29:26 AM
There's Something About Mary is quality cinema.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 02:31:06 AM
There's Something About Mary is quality cinema.

But 100 best american movies ever quality?

There are likely 250 viable candidates on the list, and a good portion of those are old, sometimes silent movies that are increasingly not seen very often.  I bet someone with more insight into the selection process, knowing the ins and outs, could probably predict with a fine degree of accuracy what will turn up on the list.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 02:31:38 AM
Oh yeah, of course not. :lol

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Dumb and Dumber
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Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 20, 2007, 02:33:14 AM
I quit looking, but there are tons of really stupid things on there.  All 3 LOTR movies are on it.  Rocky Horror (which isn't an American movie, and probably shouldn't even be on the list) is there.  POTC 1 is on it.  Shrek. There's Something About Mary. Spider-Man 2. Jurassic Park. American Beauty. A Clockwork Orange (I guess this is debatable--Kubrick is an American, but it was written by a brit, the money was british, and the cast and crew were british).  Paul Faggis's Crash is indeed on the list.

Wow, the mind boggles at how stupid a lot of those choices are.  Seriously.

I liked American Beauty, though.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 02:35:02 AM
Tod Browning's Freaks is also on the list--a movie whose only merit is that it is freaky because it used REAL FREAKS!

EDIT:  Gandhi is also on the list, another movie that had nothing to do with American film.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 20, 2007, 02:38:54 AM
There are movies like Freaks that are necessary viewing for reasons entirely separate to whether they're good films or not.

This AFI list is re-tahhh-ded.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 02:41:28 AM
I wish they'd get the non-American films off the list, so there would be more room for, ya know, actual American cinema.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 02:42:34 AM
There are also a fair number of Bond movies on the list.  This is a poorly defined area (Moulin Rouge also falls into it)-- these are international movies.  They don't belong to any one country.  They have varied casts and crews.  Nowhere is it clearly defined what makes something an "American" film.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 20, 2007, 03:09:20 AM
You guys should post your top ten lists in this thread. I need to revise my list, bad. Although the top tier will stay the same

1. To Kill a Mockingbird
2. Imitation of Life
3. It's a Wonderful Life
4. Rear Window (*new entry)
5. The Godfather

Stuff that will be considered for the top ten
-The Shawshank Redemption
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-Forrest Gump
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-The Bad Seed
-Spartacus
-The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
-Mutiny on the Bounty
-Brazil
-Amadeus
-Raiders of the Lost Arc
-Alien
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 20, 2007, 03:42:29 AM
No Big Lebowski, no sale.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 03:46:29 AM
No Big Lebowski, no sale.

Fargo is on the list, but that's it :(  Not even the superior Oh Brother.

Spider-Man 2 is on the fucking list.  Spider-fucking-man 2.  This list is stupid bullshit no matter what Cheebs wants you to believe.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 03:49:11 AM
For 1995, there's 7 nominees and Se7en is not one of them. Fuck that shit.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 03:50:44 AM
connect.afi.com

You have to sign up for the site.  It is free.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 03:52:53 AM
I'm looking at the old list of nominees...that website has the new one, TVC?
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 03:55:47 AM
I'm looking at the old list of nominees...that website has the new one, TVC?

If that doesn't work, just go to AFI.com and follow the relevant links to get the ballot. 
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 04:03:24 AM
Harry Potter is on that list. Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 08:28:08 AM
No Big Lebowski, no sale.
Why would it be? Coen Brothers have done better films. O Brother, Fargo, & Raising Arizona.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2007, 10:45:16 AM
Harry Potter is on that list. Jesus Christ.

How the fuck is that even possible? I thought Harry Potter was BRITISH.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: EvilBoris on June 20, 2007, 10:58:43 AM
 I personally thought he was Belgian :/
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 11:30:09 AM
you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

About 90-95 of the top 100 will be films made before 1975.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Tauntaun on June 20, 2007, 11:38:22 AM
(http://z.about.com/d/top40/1/0/J/L/afi.jpg)

I like movies, WAAAA!  :'( /emo
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 12:10:25 PM
you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

So we should just rename the English language American now?  Because that requirement is non-sensical.  Why do American's cave to co-opt movies from other countries?  As if we aren't imperialistic enough.

AFI is stupid bullshit.  If the AFI can pick British movies, that renders the BFI effectively useless.  AFI is distinguished mentally-challenged.  FUCK THIS LIST.  FUCK CHEEBS.

Say, Cheebs, should they start letting American films on the next BFI list?

http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/bfi100/
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 20, 2007, 12:14:30 PM
If there's one thing I've learned about Cheebs it's that he's very impressionable and he seems to love following public opinion/party line. Someone "smarter" than him says the AFI is the be all end all? IT MUST BE. Someone more influencial than him says this is how it is? IT HAS TO BE

No wonder he's so obsessed with Hillary's republican days - it mirrors his own conserva-closeted psyche
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 12:15:45 PM
I can't believe he's defending the fact that there are only 400 movies to select from.  More bullshit!
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 12:17:24 PM
 :lol PD you were the one who used the afi top 100 to show what important films you have seen in a thread here. :punch
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 20, 2007, 12:24:04 PM
When this list came out in 1997 I remember that Star wars was number 9. What happend to that?

Also AFI confirms that Star Wars > ChinaTown

AND Star Wars > Annie hall (Star Wars was robbed at the oscars)
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 12:26:22 PM
you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

About 90-95 of the top 100 will be films made before 1975.

Why the fuck are they even in the top 400 of all-time? Honestly...fucking SHREK?!?!?
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 20, 2007, 12:27:21 PM
Am I the only one that doesnt like the Wizard of Oz at all?

I didnt see Brazil. Is it considered a foreign movie?
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Flannel Boy on June 20, 2007, 12:28:21 PM
How are these lists compiled? Do people judge movies in a vacuum or within a historical context?

Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 20, 2007, 12:29:06 PM
This list is not the one that was released in 1997. Empire Strikes back was on the 1997 list.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 20, 2007, 12:34:33 PM
:lol PD you were the one who used the afi top 100 to show what important films you have seen in a thread here. :punch

I just wanted to point out how few movies I had seen, and the list was helpful. What's wrong with that? I'm not pimping it like it's the Ten Commandments.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 04:44:02 PM
Am I the only one that doesnt like the Wizard of Oz at all?

I didnt see Brazil. Is it considered a foreign movie?

I am fairly certain Brazil was at least on the ballot for the new 100.  I would also not classify it as an American film.  All the writers, the director, and the main cast (aside from Dinero) are brits.  The producers were Americans, I think.  I guess it would fall into the category of "international" movies, like the Bond flicks. 

Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 06:01:19 PM
you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

About 90-95 of the top 100 will be films made before 1975.

Why the fuck are they even in the top 400 of all-time? Honestly...fucking SHREK?!?!?
those aren't top 400 of all time. those are 400 choices. they put in MANY recent titles as the focus  with just re-using the old 100 classics. it was structured to give more chances to vote in newer films, not that they are the top 400.

It's basically previous 100 + 250  (with about 50 or so new older ones) new films
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 08:30:28 PM
blade runner broke the top 100!!! :bow
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 08:37:50 PM
blade runner broke the top 100!!! :bow

SHOCKING considering it had a 1 in 4 chance!
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 08:38:31 PM
blade runner broke the top 100!!! :bow

SHOCKING considering it had a 1 in 4 chance!
not really. 85-90% of the first 100 will still be on this list. There is basically only 10-15 open slots.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2007, 08:43:18 PM
THE SIXTH SENSE?
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2007, 08:45:14 PM
PD better be watching this
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 08:53:25 PM
PD better be watching this
he said in aim a couple hours ago he was. I wonder if The Godfather will top Citizen Kane this time. It would be awesome just because the dvd of citizen kane has a bunch of stuff on it with "AFI's #1 FILM OF ALL TIME"
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2007, 09:04:54 PM
Yes :lol
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TVC15 on June 20, 2007, 09:08:01 PM
WAIT DID THEY ACTUALLY PUT THE SIXTH SENSE ON THE LIST

What a joke!
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 20, 2007, 09:48:09 PM
Fellowship number 50 zomg
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2007, 11:23:23 PM
Citizen Kane number 1 as expected.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 20, 2007, 11:27:43 PM
Raging Bull #4? Schidler's List #8? Hm I need to see both of those movies. Schidler's List seems kinda high, but at the same time I can imagine it being even higher in 10 years.

The Sixth Sense seemed out of place, especially when you consider the other mystery/thriller movies ahead of it. I love the movie, but I dunno.

Fellowship at #50, and Scorsese pimping it=made my day :D
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2007, 11:29:38 PM
Kubrick love made me smile. :)
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: TakingBackSunday on June 20, 2007, 11:36:48 PM
Citizen Kane is great and all, but do you think it'll ever stop being rimjobbed by the film elite?  Honestly, after seeing it a few times, it's incredible, but I don't think its number one worthy.  I can see the argument made for the Godfather, Gone With the Wind, or fuck even Schindler's List, but Citizen Kane seems to me to be the best movie out of a fuckton of shitty ones from that era.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 20, 2007, 11:37:44 PM
I don't think Citizen Kane is number one worthy at all.

Casablanca >>>>>>>>> Citizen Kane
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 20, 2007, 11:38:40 PM
In 20 years I can definitely seeing Godfather at #1. There was a time when many believed Gone With the Wind was the best film ever, and when those people died out the new group of film sages nominated Citizen Kane.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: EvilBoris on June 20, 2007, 11:39:31 PM
 The Searchers #96 to #12 mega bump. Respect
 But the punks kicked Patton out, and ignored LA Confidential! Looks like they they quietly snuck 'Birth' out and replaced it with Intolerance. It would have been awkward with Morgan's presentation I suppose :o


Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 11:41:27 PM
In 20 years I can definitely seeing Godfather at #1. There was a time when many believed Gone With the Wind was the best film ever, and when those people died out the new group of film sages nominated Citizen Kane.
and 20 year's after that schindler's list will likely be the #1 due to the spielberg generation being the elder film elites.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 20, 2007, 11:45:15 PM
Citizen Kane is the best movie ever shut up everyone!!!!  :maf
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 11:59:02 PM
Raging Bull was #4? Awesome.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 12:00:54 AM
In 20 years I can definitely seeing Godfather at #1. There was a time when many believed Gone With the Wind was the best film ever, and when those people died out the new group of film sages nominated Citizen Kane.
and 20 year's after that schindler's list will likely be the #1 due to the spielberg generation being the elder film elites.

Spielberg hate annoys me soo much. His movies aren't stylish, they aren't "beautiful" - he does everything effortlessly. He knows how to perfectly convey whatever he wants onto the audience.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: thekavorka on June 21, 2007, 12:09:31 AM
anyone know a site with the list? i missed it. afi.com doesn't have it yet. or it does but i have to register or some shit.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: EvilBoris on June 21, 2007, 12:10:50 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_100_Years..._100_Movies_%2810th_Anniversary_Edition%29

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Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 12:11:44 AM
Quote from: michelle the clueless
He knows how to perfectly convey whatever he wants onto an audience of drooling ignoramuses.

fixed

to continue the gaf meme, in before brandnew whines about snobs
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: thekavorka on June 21, 2007, 12:14:19 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFI%27s_100_Years..._100_Movies_%2810th_Anniversary_Edition%29



thanks
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 12:15:07 AM
Am I the only one that doesnt like the Wizard of Oz at all?

I didnt see Brazil. Is it considered a foreign movie?

I am fairly certain Brazil was at least on the ballot for the new 100.  I would also not classify it as an American film.  All the writers, the director, and the main cast (aside from Dinero) are brits.  The producers were Americans, I think.  I guess it would fall into the category of "international" movies, like the Bond flicks. 



gilliam's american-born, although i think he's a nationalized brit, now. i dunno.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 12:29:40 AM
Quote from: michelle the clueless
He knows how to perfectly convey whatever he wants onto an audience of drooling ignoramuses.

fixed

to continue the gaf meme, in before brandnew whines about snobs

Shaddup chump Raiders is a 10/10 unlike yer sex life

spoiler (click to show/hide)
1. Raiders of the Lost Ark :-*
2. The Big Lebowski
3. Glengarry Glen Ross
4. Blue Velvet
5. Fargo
6. The Silence of the Lambs
7. Sideways
8. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
9. Unforgiven
10. Fellowship of the Ring :-*

Good list boy
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 12:32:14 AM
when did you start liking unforgiven, you alternate reality negro
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 12:34:33 AM
That's the list you posted on GAF, here
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3137842#post3137842

Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 12:37:24 AM
again, honky, those are the movies i ENJOY the most, not the movies i think are the best. much of what i enjoy has very little or no artistic credibility, although the two often do intersect. my ability to appreciate something on a technical or artistic level is largely separate from raw personal appeal, which is often some inscrutable concoction of nostalgia, geek preference, sentimentality and timing -- y'know, the shit i provided wholly independent of the creator's original vision and execution
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 21, 2007, 12:38:08 AM
that list sucks.  other than having kane at top.
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Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 12:43:50 AM
again, honky, those are the movies i ENJOY the most, not the movies i think are the best. much of what i enjoy has very little or no artistic credibility, although the two often do intersect. my ability to appreciate something on a technical or artistic level is largely separate from raw personal appeal, which is often some inscrutable concoction of nostalgia, geek preference, sentimental and timing.

A disgusting sentiment from a broken old man

Here's a real top 5:
1. To Kill a Mockingbird
2. It's a Wonderful Life
3. Rear Window
4. Imitation of Life
5. The Godfather
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: thekavorka on June 21, 2007, 01:34:17 AM
Casablanca should be in any top 5.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Madrun Badrun on June 21, 2007, 01:40:05 AM
Casablanca should be in any top 5.

I didn't like it, ok I liked it but didn't think it was omg amazing or anything.   
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Post by: Ichirou on June 21, 2007, 01:48:12 AM
Casablanca should be in any top 5.

Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot should be in any top 5.  See?  I can do it too.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: thekavorka on June 21, 2007, 01:54:47 AM
Casablanca should be in any top 5.

Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot should be in any top 5.  See?  I can do it too.

yeah you can. thats what it makes it so fun
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Ichirou on June 21, 2007, 01:57:19 AM
1. Battlefield Earth
2. Stop or My Mom Will Shoot
3. Suburban Commando
4. Dunston Checks In
5. Jaws: The Revenge
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: thekavorka on June 21, 2007, 01:58:31 AM
I actually own the VHS of Dunston Checks In. Great movie. Excellent list.
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Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 04:48:38 PM
yeah, but again, not as a technical achievement. i am a sucker for occult thrillers, perez-reverte (even totally neutered and bastardized), and polanski. i find it a fun movie to regularly view as it preys on certain geeky preferences. i don't think it's a good movie; it's just one i really enjoy.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 04:49:42 PM
What are some of your kid's fav films?




spoiler (click to show/hide)
The Spongebob movie isn't bad actually
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Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 04:51:37 PM
my daughter? when i'm not caning her or locking her in a prayer closet -- homeschooling ftw -- she watches cars, stuart little, the cat returns, finding nemo, and a metric buttload of nat'l geographic specials about various marine animals.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Himu on June 21, 2007, 04:52:44 PM
Drinky's daughter LOVES marine animals it seems.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 04:55:27 PM
cuz they slip right in the pooper :shh
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 04:57:08 PM
again, duders, pd's quoting that list out of context. i listed the ten movies that, at the time, i considered "comfort" movies -- movies i watch, well-made or otherwise, when i want something familiar and unchallenging. i think spielberg's a mediocre director, but raiders is easily the #1 movie i turn to when i wanna just pop something in and be amused for two hours. sure, it has some questionable performances, several cliched transitions, and hokey dialogue, but it's fun in a purely subjective way. i don't watch it to be challenged or engaged on an academic or artistic level, where appreciation is tantamount and indulgence is secondary; i watch it cuz HURR HURR NAZIS GET KILLED AND OMG THE ARK AND LULZ INDIANA JONES.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: bud on June 21, 2007, 04:57:55 PM
does kane actually deserve to be the no.1 movie on that list?

it was revolutionary for its time, sure, but it isn't anymore.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 05:00:48 PM
again, duders, pd's quoting that list out of context. i listed the ten movies that, at the time, i considered "comfort" movies -- movies i watch, well-made or otherwise, when i want something familiar and unchallenging. i think spielberg's a mediocre director, but raiders is easily the #1 movie i turn to when i wanna just pop something in and be amused for two hours. sure, it has some questionable performances, several cliched transitions, and hokey dialogue, but it's fun in a purely subjective way. i don't watch it to be challenged or engaged on an academic or artistic level, where appreciation is tantamount and indulgence is secondary; i watch it cuz HURR HURR NAZIS GET KILLED AND OMG THE ARK AND LULZ INDIANA JONES.

It's a modern vision of a Saturday matinee, what do you expect.





spoiler (click to show/hide)
1. To Kill a Mockingbird
2. It's a Wonderful Life
3. Rear Window
4. Imitation of Life
5. The Godfather
 :-*
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Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Van Cruncheon on June 21, 2007, 05:04:13 PM
i enjoyed it less because of the perez-reverte roots and more because it was a polanski-directed moody occult thriller. same with me and dune: i don't measure the book-to-movie films against their original novels; i just take 'em as-is. well, except for all the godawful pk dick movies folks have been making. what the fuck, hollywood!
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 21, 2007, 05:30:56 PM
Am I the only one that doesnt like the Wizard of Oz at all?

I didnt see Brazil. Is it considered a foreign movie?

I am fairly certain Brazil was at least on the ballot for the new 100.  I would also not classify it as an American film.  All the writers, the director, and the main cast (aside from Dinero) are brits.  The producers were Americans, I think.  I guess it would fall into the category of "international" movies, like the Bond flicks. 



gilliam's american-born, although i think he's a nationalized brit, now. i dunno.
he lives in america again. During the time of Brazil he was in england, but that was around the time of monty python still.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 05:43:05 PM
Brazil: 9.5 :bow

Only negative is that it's not the kind of movie I can sit down and watch again and again. I've seen it about 4 times but I haven't watched it in months.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 21, 2007, 05:56:43 PM
Brazil: 9.5 :bow

Only negative is that it's not the kind of movie I can sit down and watch again and again. I've seen it about 4 times but I haven't watched it in months.
yet you hate his other writing/directing work in python :(
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Post by: FlameOfCallandor on June 21, 2007, 06:06:12 PM
Brazil: 9.5 :bow

Only negative is that it's not the kind of movie I can sit down and watch again and again. I've seen it about 4 times but I haven't watched it in months.

I watch it all the time.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Phoenix Dark on June 21, 2007, 06:10:22 PM
Brazil: 9.5 :bow

Only negative is that it's not the kind of movie I can sit down and watch again and again. I've seen it about 4 times but I haven't watched it in months.
yet you hate his other writing/directing work in python :(

 :shh
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 21, 2007, 06:49:54 PM
A list that includes Forrest Gump but excludes Brazil is worthy of only open hostility and derision.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: bud on June 21, 2007, 07:07:21 PM
roule douke, forrest gump was a great movie.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Human Snorenado on June 21, 2007, 07:08:41 PM
roule douke, forrest gump was a great movie.

Well, that's where I stop taking your happy ass seriously anymore.
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on June 21, 2007, 07:21:28 PM
BUBBA GUMP? MORE LIKE BIG LIPPED NIGGAH.

LADIES...  :-*
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: Cheebs on June 21, 2007, 07:26:23 PM
BUBBA GUMP? MORE LIKE BIG LIPPED NIGGAH.

LADIES...  :-*
the ladies love a man with a face like that

(http://www.evilbore.com/images/shaketar.jpg)
Title: Re: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997)
Post by: The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment on June 21, 2007, 07:27:32 PM
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