Official Rock Band Thread

[chronovore]

Well, dude, you're seriously oversimplifying the usage scenario of a very, very complicated area of copyright law. It's not just a matter of what the artists want or what's good for the fans, or even what the game developer or publisher can afford to pay; making deals with the labels is like dealing with Satan or a nasty dragon. You can be sure of only a few things: it's not collaborative; they don't care about you, long-term viability, or growth; you're getting the short end of the deal.

Anyway, HAT's sarcasm was only mildly rude but entertaining, while invitations to ass-licking are exceedingly rude and unwelcome.

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[archie4208]

Songs not exporting

ACDC, Journey, Metallica, RHCP, Soundgarden and all HMX songs.

Good jon not being able to relicense in house songs, Harmonix. 

[demi]

i wish i had a future in licking joe's ass

[demi]

Songs not exporting

ACDC, Journey, Metallica, RHCP, Soundgarden and all HMX songs.

Good jon not being able to relicense in house songs, Harmonix. 

didnt they do Visions? fuck HMX music

[Eel O'Brian]

i wish i had a future in licking joe's ass

[pilonv1]

And you have a future is licking my ass.

seething with jealousy right here

[archie4208]

Songs not exporting

ACDC, Journey, Metallica, RHCP, Soundgarden and all HMX songs.

Good jon not being able to relicense in house songs, Harmonix. 

didnt they do Visions? fuck HMX music

The singer is pretty cute, though.



 

[chronovore]

Songs not exporting

ACDC, Journey, Metallica, RHCP, Soundgarden and all HMX songs.

Good jon not being able to relicense in house songs, Harmonix. 

I agree with you that it's silly they can't get their own employees' bands to agree to bundle with the rest of the songs covered by the export feature, but there's likely something more to it than "Golly, the VP of HMX was really surprised when the employees didn't agree to have their work featured for free."

It is more troubling that RHCP's Bloodsugarsexmagik, a full album as DLC excepting the song "Give It Away" is not going to be a full album when played in RB3. It's not like they're removing the ability to play it in RB2, but still.

[Joe Molotov]

Well, dude, you're seriously oversimplifying the usage scenario of a very, very complicated area of copyright law. It's not just a matter of what the artists want or what's good for the fans, or even what the game developer or publisher can afford to pay; making deals with the labels is like dealing with Satan or a nasty dragon. You can be sure of only a few things: it's not collaborative; they don't care about you, long-term viability, or growth; you're getting the short end of the deal.

I didn't say it would be easy or even possible, I just said that what they should do because I'm a consumer and that's what I what I want, and fuck them if they can't do it, and fuck the labels and bands and the lawyers and everybody else. I just want my songs, dammit.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

So they take away the biggest headline songs of RB 2 


I love the SA Rock Band army on SomethingAwful, they spin anything negative about RB to be good and how it's "a lie to make you look better". Right.

[Bloodwake]

Yeah, I'm a little pissed about losing Give It Away when I paid for Blood Sugar Sex Magik.

But evidently the Harmonix songs will be available for download for free at a later time.

http://rockbandaide.com/9308/rock-band-2-export-details/

Still, sucks that I lose licensing for two songs that are already on my damn hard drive.

[Joe Molotov]

Damn, we also lost Journey!  As long as we've still got Don't Stop Believing, I guess I'll be alright though.

[Mr. Gundam]

Yeah, I was bummed to see the Journey song go. :-(

Leaving work soon and picking up RB3 on the way home. Yeeeaahhh!!!!

[MyNameIsMethodis]

The tablature they use for pro keys is so fucking stupid, and theres no way to look at a chart, because you can't pause the charts. Even in practice mode.

[Bloodwake]

I think I'm going to key and vocal up the Doors pack tonight upon returning home.

AWESOME FIRST DLC DAY for RB3

[fistfulofmetal]

i got the keyboard bundle

and it the game wasnt in the box

[Mr. Gundam]

Picked up my keyboard and copy of the game. Can't wait to rock me some New Order!

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[youtube=560,345]_ACAvBLJMFs[/youtube]

 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Hey guess what; some of your DLC isn't going to work anymore!

Such as Heir Kommit Alex by some german fegs and also Rock N Roll Star by Oasis!

Harmonix, the new Neversoft?

[Mr. Gundam]

Hey guess what; some of your DLC isn't going to work anymore!

Such as Heir Kommit Alex by some german distinguished effete fellows and also Rock N Roll Star by Oasis!

Harmonix, the new Neversoft?

I wonder if that's due to those songs being on the European Rock Band 2 disc?

[chronovore]

Yeah, nearly certainly so.

[Mr. Gundam]

Yeah, nearly certainly so.

It is. When I was reading the official directions to export my RB2 tracks to RB3, this was the reason why.

[chronovore]

Mr. Gundam! I didn't know your skillset included rhetorical questions! I should have known from the lack of a question mark. 

[Mr. Gundam]

 

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[youtube=560,345]KmqhBR6QJCQ[/youtube]

Jesus Christ.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Just one DLC song this weed 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Archie please tell me you're seriously not going to pick up a real squire just to learn guitar through this "method". The tutorials are really really bad, even for keys. They never explain what you're learning, or it's appliance in real life. A keys example would be they teach you the major scale, but they don't tell you what the fuck to do with it.

[archie4208]

I'm going to use RB3 to get my toes wet and go from there.  If it takes a vidya context to teach me the basics and put me in an environment that is less tedious than doing the Pentatic a hundred times in a row then it is probably worth it.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

The only thing the game is going to teach you is how to be a walking jukebox though 

[Mr. Gundam]

My wife put her childhood/adolescent piano lessons to good use and kicked ass at the keys last night.

[Joe Molotov]

My wife put her childhood/adolescent piano lessons to good use and kicked ass at the keys last night.

Did she tickle your ivories afterward? 

[archie4208]

[youtube=560,345]Jq_ARxxyv_o[/youtube]

Too bad Harmonix isn't releasing a real bass guitar.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

That's terrible; there's no indication that that is tapped and not actually strummed, wtf.

[archie4208]

Gotta save something for Rock Band 4. 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I don't know if you read SA, but their reason for forcing AIM was because the systems can't handle 4 highways at once without frame drops. 

[chronovore]

That's terrible; there's no indication that that is tapped and not actually strummed, wtf.

Dude, your hyperbolic fanaticism is showing again. Please don't drag this thread through the mud. It is full of excitement for A NEW GAME, not A TRAINING DEVICE.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I don't know if you're being sarcastic, but not showing how to correctly play the song is a pretty big gafee.

[chronovore]

Sorry, wasn't being sarcastic. Not everyone is expecting RB3 to teach them how to play a guitar. I expect RB and GH to teach me how to play air-guitar, but not to prep me for an actual band audition. There's only so far they can go before it just becomes educational software.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I don't know if you know or not, but that video shows a mode of the game called "Pro" mode where they "teach" you how to play the song on a real guitar that can be hooked up to the game. My problem comes in it not showing that that actual song is tapped and you're not learning anything by not knowing.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

thanks for reminding me to put you back on ignore

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I really don't understand why you guys are putting me on ignore for saying that the chart for that song is incorrect 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

There's a example of how it's really played.

[ferrarimanf355]

BTW, there's a few songs that don't work now from RB1:

Dani California
Black Hole Sun


which means we will probably lose

Spoonman
Give it Away

Dear Activision,

Fuck you.
 

[chronovore]

I really don't understand why you guys are putting me on ignore for saying that the chart for that song is incorrect 

I don't have you on Ignore yet, darling. I will say that you're being pretty bullheaded in this thread, after your antics in SA forums' RB thread apparently got you suspended there.

You're always free to make your own choices, voice things however you want, but if it's eliciting a negative reaction in the conversation's other participants, you can choose to charge on ahead and damn the consequences, or you can reconsider your tone and approach from a different angle.

I'm aware of the "Pro" mode in Rock Band, and I've seen it referred to as practically (n.b. not "literally") teaching players how to play the song, and that the controller for it can also be used as a real guitar. I believe the goal is to bring it closer to the experience of actually playing the instrument, just as the drum kit is practically the same as a real drum kit.

None of that flies in the face of what I stated earlier: RB allows me to be in a pretend band. This new controller and the new mode will get me closer to that feeling, sure. I might even learn some, er, fingering positions from playing on Pro. But I don't expect it to turn me into a guitarist.

BTW, there's a few songs that don't work now from RB1:

Dani California
Black Hole Sun


which means we will probably lose

Spoonman
Give it Away

Dear Activision,

Fuck you.
 

...And sadly, I'll probably be on vibrating pre-order wait for Guitar Hero: Red Hot Chili Peppers whenever it is announced.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I really don't understand why you guys are putting me on ignore for saying that the chart for that song is incorrect 

I don't have you on Ignore yet, darling. I will say that you're being pretty bullheaded in this thread, after your antics in SA forums' RB thread apparently got you suspended there.

You're always free to make your own choices, voice things however you want, but if it's eliciting a negative reaction in the conversation's other participants, you can choose to charge on ahead and damn the consequences, or you can reconsider your tone and approach from a different angle.

I'm aware of the "Pro" mode in Rock Band, and I've seen it referred to as practically (n.b. not "literally") teaching players how to play the song, and that the controller for it can also be used as a real guitar. I believe the goal is to bring it closer to the experience of actually playing the instrument, just as the drum kit is practically the same as a real drum kit.

None of that flies in the face of what I stated earlier: RB allows me to be in a pretend band. This new controller and the new mode will get me closer to that feeling, sure. I might even learn some, er, fingering positions from playing on Pro. But I don't expect it to turn me into a guitarist.

I misread your first post, but you're mistaken about Pro mode. It's goal is to LITERALLY teach you how to play guitar/keys/drums. You can take the tablature and play it on a real instrument and it is the exact same as the musician plays it. I love the game otherwise, besides some bone headed decisions, my only problem is that they're not telling you how to correctly play something in the mode that they bill as doing so.

[chronovore]

OK, apparently I'll find out more about Pro mode when I get home tonight.

I've been avidly tracking my package since I placed the order, and it has been signed for at my house.

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[archie4208]

RB3 sold a whopping 7,386 units in its first week in the UK.  RIP music games.  :'(

[archie4208]

Well RB3 is pretty innovative, but anyone who wasn't a blind Harmonix fanboy saw this had bomba written all over it.  Ah well, just means I can get a keyboard bundle and Squier for $100 next year. 

[chronovore]

The Rock Band Facebook page says today's "the last day to download and play" some downloadable songs by The Doors, but I can't tell if that means they're just trial versions a la Rock Band Network or if it's really free DLC.

What's the deal?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

theres a 3 pack of free Doors DLC, you have to go into the music store and get it before tonight.

[Mr. Gundam]

Make sure you look for them in the in-game music store, they don't show up in the normal PS3/360 store.

[cool breeze]

uh, how do you get your songs from rock band 1 and 2 on this?

[Mr. Gundam]

The RB1 and LRB songs automatically transfer over on the PS3. On the 360 though you have to redownload that export key or something.

For the RB2 songs, you enter the code on the back of your RB2 manual (same one that was used for the 20 free songs a couple years ago) at www.rockband.com.

[cool breeze]

thanks

but this is confusing.  the back of the manual is like 70% dance central ad, 20% other stuff, and a tiny sliver with the code.  then I enter the code and says it is invalid 

[Mr. Gundam]

ROCK BAND 2 MANUAL

http://rockband.com/support/export-rock-band

[cool breeze]

oh...oh ok thanks

my eyes aren't working right now


this piano stuff is hard.  maybe pro keys + hard + bohemian rhapsody isn't good for someone whose experience with keyboards was pretending to play to the demo music.

whoa whoa, I didn't know this cost money to do.  I don't have any points  :'(

[cool breeze]

this is so confusing!

I wish they'd show the entire keyboard layout on the screen even if it wasn't all used.  Just understanding the placement is difficult.  I dropped down to medium and I can get through parts of sister christian by looking at the screen, then down to the spot.

and to think those kids that would play Just a Friend on the school piano had talent, or dexterity, or a memory, or something.


and bohemian rhapsody sucks for this game because I want to toss the keyboard and pick up a guitar at one point.

[Mr. Gundam]

My wife was complaining about the game shifting to certain parts of the keyboard and not the full thing, even on Pro Mode.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

yeah, I wish there was a Full Screen Pro Mode for solo keys, the octave shifting UI is kind of ludicrous and gives me whiplash

[Mr. Gundam]

She also wants actual notes instead of keys on the screen, but Harmonix ain't doing that.