Halo 3

[AdmiralViscen]

I suck so much ass at Halo 3 multiplayer and my unfamiliarity with the Halo and Halo 2 maps makes it even worse.  I lose almost every confrontation that involves a beatdown and when I finally do get the jump on someone, someone else runs up and starts tag teaming me.  I swear, Slayer is all about finding where the action is and cleaning up people who are already fighting and half-dead.  Thats the primary strategy behind scoring big.  Fucking janitors!

Everyone post your bungie.net service records so we can see who sucks the most!

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=jim+robobo

I haven't even played online yet. I'm just busy going through single-player on Normal.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=tifosiotaku

the fuck

[ferrarimanf355]

I suck so much ass at Halo 3 multiplayer and my unfamiliarity with the Halo and Halo 2 maps makes it even worse.  I lose almost every confrontation that involves a beatdown and when I finally do get the jump on someone, someone else runs up and starts tag teaming me.  I swear, Slayer is all about finding where the action is and cleaning up people who are already fighting and half-dead.  Thats the primary strategy behind scoring big.  Fucking janitors!

Everyone post your bungie.net service records so we can see who sucks the most!

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=jim+robobo

I haven't even played online yet. I'm just busy going through single-player on Normal.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/default.aspx?player=tifosiotaku

the fuck

I'm saving Legendary for co-op. I can barely survive five minutes on Heroic without getting killed.  :'(

[tiesto]

Woo, beat Blue Dragon, beat Earthbound... now its time to work on SP Halo 3. Just beat the level where you're riding on the highway with the Warthog, battling the Brute Coptors, like the 3rd "real" level in the game (if you don't count the prologue as a level). Good times so far, the levels seem a LOT shorter than Halo 1 or 2, (or maybe I've actually gotten a bit better at these games... naah... ) and the fat seems much more trimmed down, which I actually really appreciate.

[The Fake Shemp]

It's hard to find a lot of faults with this game, as it's so damn fun.  You can nitpick just about anything to death, but this is balls out fun.  And the feature set is phenomenal.  Halo 2 had longevity that I just didn't understand, but I see myself playing this for a long time.

[drohne]

damn -- the difficulty gap between heroic and legendary seems pretty big this time. just did sierra 117, and until i adapted, i was dying every five seconds. a single brute will take you down pretty quickly if you give him a clear shot. you have to play really conservatively...it's an interesting challenge, but heroic was definitely more fun.

[Mupepe]

damn -- the difficulty gap between heroic and legendary seems pretty big this time. just did sierra 117, and until i adapted, i was dying every five seconds. a single brute will take you down pretty quickly if you give him a clear shot. you have to play really conservatively...it's an interesting challenge, but heroic was definitely more fun.

and oh the snipers :'(

[Solo]

Ok, so I FINALLY got to play some more (only had the chance to play once so far, beating the first three levels). Like I had said earlier, levels 1 and 2 were pretty blah, and I was afraid Halo had duped me again. I also said that I had loved level 3. Well, I got through 4, 5, and 6 last night, and each one was more fuckawesome than the last. So levels 3, 4, 5, and 6 were all fucking great, and I am really loving a Halo game for the first time ever. Three more levels to go, and Im really curious to see level 8, since it seems to be the "Library" (although I really hope its not the case, as that level was the worst FPS level Ive probably ever seen) of Halo 3.

[drohne]

omg the snipers. you'd spend like five minutes poking away at some brutey bastard in a gold hat and then you'd step out to scavenge his brute shot and get sniped instantaneously. then you'd do it again, making a point of killing the sniper first, and some other sniper would kill your ass two steps later. cry cry cry. but there aren't too many after that first level, thank fuck -- my campaign stats say i killed THIRTY

[ferrarimanf355]

3 gold skulls and 2 silver ones... getting there... 

[drohne]

solo legendary is a bitch -- crow's nest took me forever, and i must have spent half an hour in that one goddamned hallway with 15 brutes packed in. the difficulty is just on the border of being no fun -- which is one critical thing that bungie gets right. i like gears of war and heavenly sword -- i might like them better than halo 3 -- but their 'insane' and 'hell' modes are nothing of the sort. if you're going to offer an imposingly-named hard mode, make it hard enough that i have to devise new tactics: this is what makes action games replayable

[Smooth Groove]

Heavenly Sword is not better than Halo.  WTF, Drohne, leave that crap at GAF.  I agree w/you that level 8 was a bitch to get through.  I just ended up running by everything because I got sick of fighting the flood.  Not only do the flood jump around too much, they're also way too fast to fight strategically in tight spaces.  I don't know why Bungie always has those lulls in their games that almost everyone hates even though their games are supposedly play tested to death.   Luckily level 9 was pretty fun to play even though the "final boss" was a pretty dumb choice.   It would have been more fun to go up against a crazed, powered up Prophet of Truth.   I didn't really understand the visual design of the last stage but  I still thought that it looked pretty. More importantly, it really captured the feeling that everything is crumbling around you.   

Overall, Halo 3 was a much better game than both its predecessors.   I haven't tried MP yet since I only have the 2 day Gold membership in the box but just the SP alone has insane replay value.  Halo 3 does a better job of most FPS games in making the higher difficulties feel completely different.  Unlike other FPS games, Halo 3 doesn't just increase the difficulty by making the enemies' aim almost perfect and increasing damage.  On the higher difficulties in Halo 3, you have to put more effort in planning your attacks in addition to becoming more accurate.  Just the 1st stage on Heroic made me fight more strategically than I did the entire time on normal.   

[ferrarimanf355]

Gawd, getting past that last part in level 3 was a bitch.  :'(

[Van Cruncheon]

dude, he said he LIKED heavenly sword more than halo 3, not that he critically evaluated it as better. i like hoshigami more than ff tactics -- but there's no way i'd champion hoshigami in a critical comparison because point-for-point it doesn't measure up, and those games are far more legitimately comparable than hs and halo 3. getting worked up over matters of preference is totally gaf!

[MrAngryFace]

I like bullet witch more than heavenly sword

[Smooth Groove]

dude, he said he LIKED heavenly sword more than halo 3, not that he critically evaluated it as better. i like hoshigami more than ff tactics -- but there's no way i'd champion hoshigami in a critical comparison because point-for-point it doesn't measure up, and those games are far more legitimately comparable than hs and halo 3. getting worked up over matters of preference is totally gaf!

I know, I'm just messing with Drohne.  However, I don't really get how people can say that they enjoyed more games that they wouldn't rate very high.  Shouldn't the biggest determinent of a game's quality be how fun it was to play?  It seems odd to seperate quality and enjoyability for a medium such as videogames.  When I read a review, I want to know how likely the game is going to be fun to play and not how well made the game is from a critical viewpoint.  Using film critics' approach to reviewing videogames is just wrong because games like SOTC end up with 9s even though many people won't have fun playing it.  

[MrAngryFace]

[hyp]

i wanna punch your avatar in the face, maf.

[Smooth Groove]

Cocky Funny is hilarious.  He's my new favorite poster. 

[Van Cruncheon]

Using film critics' approach to reviewing videogames is just wrong because games like SOTC end up with 9s even though many people won't have fun playing it.  

quite the opposite: sotc is an ugly, technical mess of a game that many people enjoy a great deal because of a theme. if it were approached critically, it's a 6/10. treated as an experience one must convince one's self of, it is apparently a 9/10.

[Van Cruncheon]

Borges said praise and censure were sentimental acts and had nothing to do with true criticism.

borges

[MrAngryFace]

I like heavenly sword better than borges.

[hyp]

 

your avatar reminds me of some punk i knew in 5th grade.

[Smooth Groove]

Using film critics' approach to reviewing videogames is just wrong because games like SOTC end up with 9s even though many people won't have fun playing it.  

quite the opposite: sotc is an ugly, technical mess of a game that many people enjoy a great deal because of a theme. if it were approached critically, it's a 6/10. treated as an experience one must convince one's self of, it is apparently a 9/10.

But SOTC is artsy which means most critics probably felt like they had to give it a glowing review.  Similarly, most artsy films are very limited technically due to their lower budgets but they rarely get docked for not having state of the art effects. 

[Mupepe]

SOTC is a piece of crap technically.  But I love the game <3 <3 <3

[Van Cruncheon]

15 fps and a wonky camera affect gameplay

[Smooth Groove]

15 fps and a wonky camera affect gameplay

Which means that the game likely won't be fun to play for many.  So basically the game got rewarded 9s for its ideas rather than for its execution.  That's why I said that game reviewers should stop trying to be like film critics.  If a game wasn't fun to play because of technical issues, then it shouldn't be rated highly simply because it had "artistic" value. 

[Van Cruncheon]

but they had fun playing it. people find fun in the strangest places. "fun" is not a word that -- ironically -- should be in the critic's lexicon. a critic should break down the execution relative to his or her level of knowledge and experience, not declare something subjectively "fun" and then haphazardly shore up his declamation. otherwise, unlimited saga is one of the best rpgs of the ps2 era! you don't want THAT! "fun" is determined by each individual, not a self-declared expert -- the expert's role is breakdown and the process of evaluation, not the ultimate determination of quality.

[MCD]

Professor Prole, i agree with you on the bad execution, but what other games offer what SOTC is offering?

in other words, HUGE BOSSES.

can't remember any.

 

[MCD]

What other games offer consistent framerates and good controls?  Alot.

with SOTC bosses?

[demi]

Professor Prole, i agree with you on the bad execution, but what other games offer what SOTC is offering?

in other words, HUGE BOSSES.

can't remember any.

 

They weren't huge. That's just Team ICO's camera trickery at work. Are penises in porn REALLY that big?

[MCD]

demi got me. 

Team ICO could have done a better job, lazy developers.

 

[MCD]

Hopefully they get better with their PS3 project.

and like you said Billy, controls need to be tightened.

[ferrarimanf355]

Wow, this thread was wrecked pretty quickly... 

[hyp]

http://thexboxdomain.net/2007/10/05/video-halo-3s-forge-says-let-there-be-super-mario-bros/

[CajoleJuice]

Rocket Race kicks an amazing amount of ass. Wow.

[Mupepe]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/wastingthistime/3927240-Full.jpg

Took this awesome pic of my roommate and I playing.

there's a stickied thread just for this 

[ferrarimanf355]

I got the skull in the fourth level. I can't grenade jump for shit, so I used a Deployable Cover item, jumped on it, then jumped onto the silo to get it. 

[bork]

It's funny because I couldn't find it. Who reads stickied threads? 

 

[Mupepe]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/wastingthistime/3927240-Full.jpg

Took this awesome pic of my roommate and I playing.

there's a stickied thread just for this 

It's funny because I couldn't find it. Who reads stickied threads? 

  don't you roll your eyes at me mister.

[Mupepe]

I will go on record saying I never read stickied threads. Real talk.

I always glance over them too.  now instead of rolling your eyes, let's roll around in bed.

[ferrarimanf355]

Found the skull on the fifth level. 7/13 now. That Hyabusa helmet should be mine in no time. 

[tiesto]

OK, I'm like somewhere within the bowels of level 8, the last few levels were incredible but yeah this level is fucking ANNOYING... My brother says it takes forever, too, and its like the longest level in the game. Levels 6 and 7 were a bit meatier than the prior levels but they still kept the excitement factor up. Will probably beat the game sometime this week.

[Smooth Groove]

OK, I'm like somewhere within the bowels of level 8, the last few levels were incredible but yeah this level is fucking ANNOYING... My brother says it takes forever, too, and its like the longest level in the game. Levels 6 and 7 were a bit meatier than the prior levels but they still kept the excitement factor up. Will probably beat the game sometime this week.

Make sure you take out the turrets first in that level.  Or you can just switch that level to easy.

[Bloodwake]

OK, I'm like somewhere within the bowels of level 8, the last few levels were incredible but yeah this level is fucking ANNOYING... My brother says it takes forever, too, and its like the longest level in the game. Levels 6 and 7 were a bit meatier than the prior levels but they still kept the excitement factor up. Will probably beat the game sometime this week.

Is that the

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flood

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level? Because yeah, that's basically the worst level in the game, especially since it's so close to the end.

[tiesto]

Yup, it's THAT level... Although coming off the previous level's high, I don't think anything could compare.

Level 7 = best level EVAR in the Halo series

[Bloodwake]

Yup, it's THAT level... Although coming off the previous level's high, I don't think anything could compare.

Level 7 = best level EVAR in the Halo series

Hell yeah it is.

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HORNET BANSHEE DOGFIGHT SEX

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Wait for the ending. That's all I'm going to say. Especially if you are a fan of the first Halo.

[Mupepe]

Is Floodgate the fifth level?  if so, then I have 2 awesome levels ahead of me?  followed by 2 meh levels right?

[The Fake Shemp]

Take that!

[Vizzys]

u so hardcore willco

[hyp]

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12844

looks like bungie has updated the playlists:

Halo 3: Matchmaking Playlist Update 1
Posted by lukems at 10/9/2007 11:07 AM PDT

Halo 3's Matchmaking Playlists, just like Halo 2's, are dynamic and ever-changing entities. Even now in the perilous Bungie towers, we're looking at new hoppers, gametypes and modes to test for future iterations and changes of these playlists. Multiplayer Lead Tyson Green and test wunderkind David Gasca sent the following list of changes to us -- and these changes are live now:

    * Big Team Battle matches are now 16-player affairs.
    * In the Team Slayer playlist, the appearance of Shotty Snipers has been greatly reduced.
    * Now, when players veto Shotty Snipers, the game that results from the veto will not be Shotty Snipers.
    * In one-sided VIP matches, the attacking team will now see a waypoint for the VIP they are hunting.
    * In Lone Wolves, Slayer gametypes will appear more frequently.

[CajoleJuice]

* Big Team Battle matches are now 16-player affairs.

That's the way it should be.

[hyp]

yeaaaa baby. 

[AdmiralViscen]

KOTH and Oddball just got fucked

[Bloodwake]

How about making Lone Wolves SIX people instead of five?

I'm sorry, five person games are just boring.

[drohne]

lone wolves should be 8 players. 5 is already really sparse on some maps, and if one guy happens to drop, you're just running around looking for people half the time. and holy shit, at least one in every game in every three involves a bunch of morons cooperating for achievements. i don't wear a mic when i'm playing ffa, so my only options are to play along or to fuck everything up -- i played along a few times, but now i throw timely grenades and put the game BACK ON FUCKING TRACK

'cortana' on solo legendary was the worst gaming experience of my life -- and for reference, I'VE PLAYED LAIR. the 'run like fuck' strategy i used on heroic didn't work on legendary. so i'd sit in some scrap of cover for ages and gradually pick away at those green spikey bastards with my plasma rifle or whatever joke weapon happened to be on hand -- i could actually see the shots dispersing before they hit my faraway targets. but i guess it worked well enough. i'd like to send a big 'fuck you' to the sadistic morons who designed this shit. and a big 'fuck me' to the masochistic moron who sat through it

FOR ALL THAT, and for all my other disappointments with halo 3, i think it'll be my goty. legendary is its secret weapon. and legendary is BACK after halo 2's sniper bullshit. my legendary playthrough was a fresh experience -- and that right on the heels of a heroic playthrough. that's how an action game inspires LOVE