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« Reply #1020 on: December 04, 2007, 03:23:07 AM »
What's the melt value of the American flag?

This is a trick question, as no one has ever been able to set the American flag on fire. THESE COLORS DON'T BURN!

A-ME-E-ER-I-CA! :gun
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« Reply #1021 on: December 04, 2007, 03:24:56 AM »
What's the melt value of blood?

The answer to this question depends on if you're playing Act Cadenza ver.B or Actress Again.
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« Reply #1022 on: December 04, 2007, 03:25:43 AM »
oh, wtf, don't ruin your lol streak by bringing japafaggotry into it.
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« Reply #1023 on: December 04, 2007, 03:27:20 AM »
What's the melt value of Modern English?

I'll stop the world and melt with you
I'll stop the world
You've seen the difference
And it's getting better all the time


Modern English knew that the only way to measure the love between two people is the gold standard.
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« Reply #1024 on: December 04, 2007, 03:28:52 AM »
What's the melt value of poop?  I dunno, but if you put it in a paper bag in front of someone's house and set it on fire, it's funnier than one of nikki's dead baby news stories.
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« Reply #1025 on: December 04, 2007, 03:30:28 AM »
What's the melt value of fondue?

An evening with your friends at The Melting Pot is priceless. Dig into something differenttm tonight!
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« Reply #1026 on: December 04, 2007, 03:32:29 AM »
What's the melt value of a gathering of Ron Paul supporters?

Nothing, as they are not made of gold.
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« Reply #1027 on: December 04, 2007, 03:34:22 AM »
What's the smelt value of the Great Lakes?

Believe it or not, tens of thousands of fish each year. Smelt are one of the few fish that sports fishermen can eat, making them a welcome addition to any winter table.
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« Reply #1028 on: December 04, 2007, 03:35:32 AM »
What's the melt value of my posts in this thread?

My meltdown is COMEDY GOLD, BITCHES. So, $790.70 per lol.
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« Reply #1029 on: December 04, 2007, 03:57:18 AM »
You melt my heart.

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« Reply #1030 on: December 04, 2007, 10:27:43 AM »
that makes no fucking sense, much like the gold standard. what's the melt value of uranium, if we're tossing about non sequiturs?

You dont know what melt value means? It's the intrinsic, value of metal, in this case gold. If you could redeem your paper money for gold instead you would then have something with intrinsic value instead of an empty IOU from the government.

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« Reply #1031 on: December 04, 2007, 10:33:51 AM »
As usual Patel has nothing to say...

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« Reply #1032 on: December 04, 2007, 10:41:41 AM »
that makes no fucking sense, much like the gold standard. what's the melt value of uranium, if we're tossing about non sequiturs?

You dont know what melt value means? It's the intrinsic, value of metal, in this case gold. If you could redeem your paper money for gold instead you would then have something with intrinsic value instead of an empty IOU from the government.
Maybe because he isn't online 24/7 like you lol.

You still haven't answered me! what does your gf think of Ron Paul?
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« Reply #1033 on: December 04, 2007, 10:58:24 AM »
that makes no fucking sense, much like the gold standard. what's the melt value of uranium, if we're tossing about non sequiturs?

You dont know what melt value means? It's the intrinsic, value of metal, in this case gold. If you could redeem your paper money for gold instead you would then have something with intrinsic value instead of an empty IOU from the government.

So what if something has a melt value? 10 million shares of Microsoft has no melt value. One-tenth of an ounce of gold does. Which is worth more?

It seems that you are using the term "intrinsic value" in two different senses. The first sense of the term is financial; meaning the actual value of a security. In the second sense you mean something valuable in itself. Of course neither money nor gold has any real intrinsic value (value in itself). Gold is only valuable because humans value gold. Gold has no intrinsic value. 



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« Reply #1034 on: December 04, 2007, 11:13:52 AM »

You still haven't answered me! what does your gf think of Ron Paul?

She likes him, she wrote a paper about Ayn Rand recently that was nice. She doesn't vote though.

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« Reply #1035 on: December 04, 2007, 11:17:05 AM »
Gold is only valuable because humans value gold. Gold has no intrinsic value. 

If I offered you an ounce of gold vs. an ounce of paper, you would chose paper?

Gold has lots many reasons it''s valuable. It's scarcity, it's metallic properties which make it useful in other ways, it is still used as a barter commodity etc...

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« Reply #1036 on: December 04, 2007, 11:17:31 AM »
[youtube=425,350]W7r27Az_Mns[/youtube]


Barry Goldwater Jr. endorses Ron Paul.

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« Reply #1037 on: December 04, 2007, 12:50:07 PM »
Because Barry Goldwater sure knows how to win elections! Wasn't his defeat the largest in history at the time?
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« Reply #1038 on: December 04, 2007, 12:59:55 PM »
Gold is only valuable because humans value gold. Gold has no intrinsic value. 

If I offered you an ounce of gold vs. an ounce of paper, you would chose paper?

If that paper was Microsoft stock, government securities, or $100 bills--absolutely. I rarely spontaneously combust, so I'm not too worried about the melt value of objects.

THE GOLD STANDARD?! Are you for fucking real?
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« Reply #1039 on: December 04, 2007, 01:03:37 PM »
Plutonium is more valuable than gold for exactly the same reasons that gold is valuable--its scarcity, useful properties, and technical applications. Yet it can't be melted and it's not used as a currency standard.

How is that possible? OH, BECAUSE IT'S NOT 1685.
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« Reply #1040 on: December 04, 2007, 01:30:27 PM »
I don't think you grasp the gold standard.
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« Reply #1041 on: December 04, 2007, 01:44:31 PM »
Gold Standard is the product of corrupt left-wing hippie communists. Silver Standard, or bust.
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« Reply #1042 on: December 04, 2007, 01:57:55 PM »
Gold is only valuable because humans value gold. Gold has no intrinsic value. 

If I offered you an ounce of gold vs. an ounce of paper, you would chose paper?

If that paper was Microsoft stock, government securities, or $100 bills--absolutely. I rarely spontaneously combust, so I'm not too worried about the melt value of objects.

THE GOLD STANDARD?! Are you for fucking real?

MOTHER FUCKER DID YOU GET MY PM  :lol

If the paper has Franklin on it>>>>>>>>>>one ounce of gold
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« Reply #1043 on: December 04, 2007, 01:59:23 PM »
Check/Debit Cards > Cash > Checks (too much effort) > Gold

I like to use things that I CAN PAY FOR STUFF WITH AND DOESNT TAKE UP ROOM. Shocker.
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« Reply #1044 on: December 04, 2007, 02:09:58 PM »
Check/Debit Cards > Cash > Checks (too much effort) > Gold

I like to use things that I CAN PAY FOR STUFF WITH AND DOESNT TAKE UP ROOM. Shocker.

Paper money used to be exchangable for gold. Im not advocating we walk around with gold bags. Your an idiot that doesnt understand the basics.

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« Reply #1045 on: December 04, 2007, 02:11:03 PM »

If the paper has Franklin on it>>>>>>>>>>one ounce of gold


 :lol :lol :lol

One ounce of gold= $800

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« Reply #1046 on: December 04, 2007, 02:11:29 PM »
Check/Debit Cards > Cash > Checks (too much effort) > Gold

I like to use things that I CAN PAY FOR STUFF WITH AND DOESNT TAKE UP ROOM. Shocker.

Paper money used to be exchangable for gold. Im not advocating we walk around with gold bags. Your an idiot that doesnt understand the basics.
Why do we need to be able to exchange it for gold? Gold is useless as a form of money in modern society.
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« Reply #1047 on: December 04, 2007, 02:18:54 PM »

If the paper has Franklin on it>>>>>>>>>>one ounce of gold


 :lol :lol :lol

One ounce of gold= $800

Oh really? Well I can't wait to head to the bank and exchange this ounce of gold for $800
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« Reply #1048 on: December 04, 2007, 02:19:51 PM »
I just went to mcdonalds and they wouldn't accept my gold as pay.  ??? wtf
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« Reply #1049 on: December 04, 2007, 02:20:35 PM »
I just went to mcdonalds and they wouldn't accept my gold as pay.  ??? wtf

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« Reply #1050 on: December 04, 2007, 02:21:19 PM »
Why do we need to be able to exchange it for gold? Gold is useless as a form of money in modern society.

No it's not.

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« Reply #1051 on: December 04, 2007, 02:21:38 PM »
No one buys shit with gold or has it in their bank. THIS ISN'T HARRY POTTER FOC
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« Reply #1052 on: December 04, 2007, 02:22:17 PM »

Oh really? Well I can't wait to head to the bank and exchange this ounce of gold for $800

You should wait a year. You will be able to get $1000 for the ounce. Better yet you should wait 10 years maybe you can get $10,000 for that ounce!

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« Reply #1053 on: December 04, 2007, 02:23:30 PM »
No one buys shit with gold or has it in their bank. THIS ISN'T HARRY POTTER FOC

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You're not even trying any more.

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« Reply #1054 on: December 04, 2007, 02:24:28 PM »
Why gold?


The history of money consists of three phases: commodity money, in which actual valuable objects are bartered; then representative money, in which paper notes (often called 'certificates') are used to represent real commodities stored elsewhere; and finally fiat money, in which paper notes are backed only by the traders' "full faith and credit" in the government.

Gold was a common form of commodity money due to its rarity, durability, easy divisibility ('fungibility'), and the general ease of identification,[1] often in conjunction with silver. Silver was typically the main circulating medium, with gold as the metal of monetary reserve.

Commodity money is troublesome and risky to transport, vulnerable to debasement, and subject to hoarding. It also does not allow the government to control or regulate the flow of commerce within their dominion with the same ease that a standardized currency does. As such, commodity money gave way to represensitive money, and gold and other specie were retained as its backing. The Gold Standard variously specified how this backing would be implemented, including the amount of specie per currency unit. The currency itself is just paper and so has no innate value, but is accepted by traders because it can be redeemed any time for the equivalent specie. A US silver certificate, for example, could (and still can) be redeemed for an actual piece of silver.

Representative money and the Gold Standard protect citizens from hyperinflation and other abuses of monetary policy, as were seen in some countries during the Great Depression. However, they were not without their problems and critics, and so were partially abandoned via the international adoption of the Bretton Woods System. That system eventually collapsed in 1971, at which time all nations had switched to full fiat money. Former US Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan has argued that the fiat money system of today has retained the favorable properties of the gold standard because central bankers have pursued monetary policy as if a gold standard were still in place.

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« Reply #1055 on: December 04, 2007, 02:25:26 PM »

If the paper has Franklin on it>>>>>>>>>>one ounce of gold


 :lol :lol :lol

One ounce of gold= $800

How can one ounce of gold be 800 dollars if 800 dollars isn't worth anything?  By this math,  1oz = 800 x 0
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« Reply #1056 on: December 04, 2007, 02:26:10 PM »
My dead parents left me a safe in my bank FUUULLL OF GOLD! I am going to get withdrawl some and use it to buy a new wand and some BERTIE BOTTS EVERY FLAVOR BEANS
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« Reply #1057 on: December 04, 2007, 02:27:26 PM »
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« Reply #1058 on: December 04, 2007, 02:27:37 PM »
You're stupid, TVC.  You too, Patel.

Let me introduce to a little bit of eduction on the gold standard:



Now, if gold wasn't such an impressive standard and a financial commodity, why would Goldfinger spend an entire movie trying to steal it?  The answer?  It is!  The gold standard benefits us all, as Goldfinger shows.
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« Reply #1059 on: December 04, 2007, 02:28:17 PM »
 :lol

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« Reply #1060 on: December 04, 2007, 02:29:23 PM »
Well Goldfinger was a german, he is bound to be stupid.
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« Reply #1061 on: December 04, 2007, 02:54:23 PM »
If I were president, I would institute a Fruity Pebbles standard.  I know what the people truly value, and I guarantee that if I ran for Prez on the Fruity Pebbles platform, I would get the youth voting in droves.
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« Reply #1062 on: December 04, 2007, 02:56:26 PM »
If I were president, I would institute a Fruity Pebbles standard.  I know what the people truly value, and I guarantee that if I ran for Prez on the Fruity Pebbles platform, I would get the youth voting in droves.

What about all the barney rubbles of the world.

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« Reply #1063 on: December 04, 2007, 03:04:46 PM »
http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/cobb/stories/2007/12/02/giuliani_1203.html


Giuliani nearly drowned out by rival's supporters

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It was Rudy Giuliani campaigning for president on the Marietta Square on Sunday afternoon, but anyone listening may well have thought the candidate's name was Ron Paul.

"RON PAUL! RON PAUL! RON PAUL!" — a crowd chanted from Glover Park, effectively drowning out comments from the former New York mayor and occasionally changing the chant to "FREEDOM! FREEDOM! FREEDOM!"


The younger crowd of Paul supporters had stronger, or maybe more enthusiastic, lungs than the middle-aged crowd of Giuliani's gaggle, who responded with a college try — "Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!" — while the Paul cadres tailed the GOP front runner on his walking photo op in downtown Marietta.

The Paul backers, handing out their own candidate's literature, said they were more interested in a president who would truly try to shrink government, not just promise to do it, and who promises outright to bring the troops home from Iraq.


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« Reply #1064 on: December 04, 2007, 03:24:12 PM »
foc, you dipshit, gold is no longer a realistic standard of value by modern standards -- its value is almost nil in first-world countries outside of fiat. uranium/plutonium or oil are probably better bets if you need a "fungible" commodity, since it has modern relevance. gold is useless unto itself in the modern market -- it has no intrinsic desirable properties that are meaningful in the modern world. ron paul and the gold standard nut brigade may yearn for a simpler time, but reality doesn't seem to care.
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« Reply #1065 on: December 04, 2007, 03:26:36 PM »
foc, you dipshit, gold is no longer a realistic standard of value by modern standards -- it's value is almost nil in first-world countries outside of fiat. uranium/plutonium or oil are probably better bets if you need a "fungible" commodity, since it has modern relevance. gold is useless unto itself in the modern market -- it has no intrinsic desirable properties that are meaningful in the modern world. ron paul and the gold standard nut brigade may yearn for a simpler time, but reality doesn't seem to care.

whatever dude, my ounce of gold can be 3 nintendo wii systems. how much can your one piece of paper buy?

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« Reply #1066 on: December 04, 2007, 03:27:40 PM »
omg patel won this thread :lol :lol :lol
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« Reply #1067 on: December 04, 2007, 03:41:16 PM »
foc, you dipshit, gold is no longer a realistic standard of value by modern standards -- its value is almost nil in first-world countries outside of fiat.

Then explain why the price of gold keeps going up. it's more than doubled since 2002.

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« Reply #1068 on: December 04, 2007, 03:44:29 PM »
patel really did win the thread  :lol :lol :lol . King of the shitheap!
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« Reply #1069 on: December 04, 2007, 03:44:44 PM »
Prole, you are quite simply wrong on this issue.

Now, I'm going to have to pull out the big guns.  I didn't want to, but I have to.  You've forced my hand.  Perhaps you've never heard of this movie...



Unlike the aforementioned Goldfinger, which while definitely is a credible source of proof for the gold standard, lacks relevancy due to its age.  But Die Hard with a Vengeance is a modern masterpiece that clearly states that the gold standard is a very real and ultimately necessary standard of value.

I will point to two - nay, three! - reasons why this movie proves the gold standard to be true.  One, it is the brilliant Simon Gruber that comes up with the plan to steal the gold from the Federal Reserve.  Simon Gruber is brother to Hans Gruber, who as we all know, is clearly the greatest homosexual and/or British villain of all-time.  The bloodline here shows that the Grubers know how to steal and more importantly, what to steal.  The fact that Simon Gruber spends the duration of the film length fawning over gold proves that it has real value.  Enough to decide ".... vhat country we vant to buy!"

Second, the film has the greatest riddle of all-time.  Simon gives John McClaine and Mr. Glass a 5 gallon jug and a 3 gallon jug to somehow make a 4 gallon jug... or else he blows up a park full of children and black people.  To this day, nobody except John McClaine and Mace Windu know how that riddle is solved.  I have seen the film close to 32 times, including with subtitles, and can still not figure out how to solve that riddle.

How does this factor into the gold standard?  Simple.  Any screenwriter smart enough to create a riddle so mind bottling, must know that gist of his entire script (a gold heist) must have significant value because he is that smart.  I mean, he wrote that fucking riddle.  He obviously knows that gold is worth a lot.  Like eight hundred dollars.

Last, but not least, the defining moment of the entire Die Hard series comes to a head when this brilliant child actor says quite possibly the greatest line in cinema history:



IT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS! YOU COULD STEAL CITY HALL!

What does this mean to you, Professor Prole (What are you a Professor of anyway?  Not gold standard, I assure you!)?  I'll tell you what.  That this kid knows that the gold standard is worth more than City Hall!  And if this kid gets it - why don't you?

Why don't you?
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« Reply #1070 on: December 04, 2007, 03:49:54 PM »
Willco should post more in this thread. At least his posts are very enterttaining.

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« Reply #1071 on: December 04, 2007, 03:52:29 PM »
"Some mechanism has got to be in place that restricts the amount of money which is produced - either a gold standard, a currency board, or something of that nature because, unless you do that, all of history suggests that inflation will take hold with very deleterious effects on economic activity."
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"There are number of us, myself included, who strongly believe that we did very well in the 1870s to the 1914 period with the international gold standard."


-Alan Greenspan

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« Reply #1072 on: December 04, 2007, 03:53:40 PM »
The arrogance of Prole to think he knows more than a Mister Alan Greenspan.  I think it's awesome that Greenspan is still old enough to remember when we had a gold standard.
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« Reply #1073 on: December 04, 2007, 03:54:06 PM »
Even wikipedia knows what it's about when it comes to melt values:



The above formula both describes the thermodynamics of melting, and also-if you interpolate four letter words properly-accurately models this thread as well.
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« Reply #1074 on: December 04, 2007, 03:54:38 PM »
Even wikipedia knows what it's about when it comes to melt values:

(Image removed from quote.)

The above formula both describes the thermodynamics of melting, and also-if you interpolate four letter words properly-accurately models this thread as well.

 :lol :lol :lol
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« Reply #1075 on: December 04, 2007, 04:09:58 PM »
I am doing some research about christmas for work and I found this. Look how smart FDR was.

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The importance of the economic impact of the secular Christmas holiday was reinforced in the 1930s when President Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed moving the Thanksgiving holiday date to extend the Christmas shopping season and boost the economy during the Great Depression.

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« Reply #1076 on: December 04, 2007, 04:27:21 PM »
I am doing some research about christmas for work and I found this. Look how smart FDR was.

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The importance of the economic impact of the secular Christmas holiday was reinforced in the 1930s when President Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed moving the Thanksgiving holiday date to extend the Christmas shopping season and boost the economy during the Great Depression.

 :lol :lol :lol
christmas shopping does help the economy asswipe
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Phoenix Dark

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« Reply #1077 on: December 04, 2007, 04:29:44 PM »
I am doing some research about christmas for work and I found this. Look how smart FDR was.

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The importance of the economic impact of the secular Christmas holiday was reinforced in the 1930s when President Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed moving the Thanksgiving holiday date to extend the Christmas shopping season and boost the economy during the Great Depression.

 :lol :lol :lol
christmas shopping does help the economy asswipe

oh god :lol
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« Reply #1078 on: December 04, 2007, 04:33:49 PM »
I am doing some research about christmas for work and I found this. Look how smart FDR was.

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The importance of the economic impact of the secular Christmas holiday was reinforced in the 1930s when President Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed moving the Thanksgiving holiday date to extend the Christmas shopping season and boost the economy during the Great Depression.

 :lol :lol :lol
christmas shopping does help the economy asswipe

oh god :lol

And all we have to do is make it 365 days a year and our economy will be BOOMING!!!

I bet you think day light savings time gives farmers more sun for their crops.   :lol

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« Reply #1079 on: December 04, 2007, 04:36:52 PM »
I'm still laughing at you cheebs. I cant believe you said that.