Author Topic: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate? (Read 20216 times)

y2kev · « **Reply #60 on:** April 15, 2008, 12:06:43 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on April 15, 2008, 12:04:27 PM

I don't give a fuck about the lame story, I just want the return of fun gameplay elements.

this is straight up GTA3 level featureset

Himu · « **Reply #61 on:** April 15, 2008, 12:06:51 PM »

I just told you no, you can't buy businesses and shit. Honestly, that crap wore thin. Vice City was the only one that did it well. You'll still probably be able to buy better places with better garages though.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #62 on:** April 15, 2008, 12:09:06 PM »

...I know you told me no. Sorry mom.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #63 on:** April 15, 2008, 01:55:45 PM »

SHUT UP, HOW DARE YOU REQUEST GAMEPLAY FEATURES PREVIOUSLY INCORPORATED INTO EARLIER VERSIONS OF THE SERIES. HOW DARE YOU!!!

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #64 on:** April 15, 2008, 02:05:15 PM »

:'(

Powerslave · « **Reply #65 on:** April 15, 2008, 05:25:23 PM »

If this game doesn't have Iron Maiden I'm gonna boycott it and stuff, just a warning to Rockstar.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #66 on:** April 15, 2008, 05:29:36 PM »

buying and upgrading businesses is a last-generation feature

year of PS3 continues

Himu · « **Reply #67 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:02:58 PM »

bubububububut some of the worst next gen graphics

[youtube=425,350]fpA-uXT8w74[/youtube]

ownzored

drohne · « **Reply #68 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:05:05 PM »

i like gta -- its earnest attempts at mission design make it the least objectionable sandbox game by far. i don't know if i $60 like it. but i'm sure i'll play gta4 at some point

y2kev · « **Reply #69 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:06:53 PM »

Quote from: drohne on April 15, 2008, 11:05:05 PM

i like gta -- its earnest attempts at mission design make it the least objectionable sandbox game by far. i don't know if i $60 like it. but i'm sure i'll play gta4 at some point

This is exactly why I got tired of Crackdown. Fun for like 6 hours and then there's absolutely no structure.

Himu · « **Reply #70 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:15:06 PM »

Crackdown is fucking boring. All there is to do is jump around the world. It is fun for 2 hours.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #71 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:22:52 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on April 15, 2008, 11:06:53 PM

This is exactly why I got tired of Crackdown. Fun for like 6 hours and then there's absolutely no structure.

That's what made it so enjoyable for me. Go where you want, do what you want.

y2kev · « **Reply #72 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:24:12 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on April 15, 2008, 11:22:52 PM

Quote from: y2kev on April 15, 2008, 11:06:53 PM
This is exactly why I got tired of Crackdown. Fun for like 6 hours and then there's absolutely no structure.

That's what made it so enjoyable for me. Go where you want, do what you want.

Do WHAT exactly? Shoot things? Jump?

It's fun until you exhaust all the structure. Then it's up to you to "make" your own fun, which I've never personally thought was good gameplay design.

I could play Animal Crossing if I wanted that.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #73 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:25:33 PM »

Get on some co op you loner mofo

I've dived back into that game more than any other next gen game so far.

y2kev · « **Reply #74 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:31:58 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on April 15, 2008, 11:25:33 PM

Get on some co op you loner mofo

I've dived back into that game more than any other next gen game so far.

Yes, I played the main story stuff entirely in coop and had a great time. But then I just...ran out of things to do. I'm not the type that was ever amused by "how long can we juggle this car in the air" or that sort of stuff. There are some neat ideas they put in there-- climbing the agency tower was sweet. But the game desperately needed a "drop down" button for it to be a really fun platformer for me.

I prefer tight, linear design in almost every case. Look what happened with Assassin's Creed. Though, granted, there's much less to do in that game than there is in Crackdown. But I found the kinetics in AC inherently enjoyable.

Grecco · « **Reply #75 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:34:55 PM »

I dont see how you can complain about a lack of things to do in Crackdown and yet praise an abortion like Assassins Creed.

y2kev · « **Reply #76 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:36:07 PM »

Quote from: Grecco on April 15, 2008, 11:34:55 PM

I dont see how you can complain about a lack of things to do in Crackdown and yet praise an abortion like Assassins Creed.

Yeah, I was unclear there. I'm not praising it. I'm more pointing to it as an example of a game that really needed tight, linear design.

For the record, I don't think it's an abortion, but it would have been if the free running wasn't so great.

Grecco · « **Reply #77 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:41:44 PM »

ACs linearity doesnt make it a better game. Its popularity is pretty much thanks to its convoluted Kojimaesque story.

Crackdowns true sandbox nature is the very reason why it works so well. Its even better when you factor the fantastic DLC

y2kev · « **Reply #78 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:48:03 PM »

Quote from: Grecco on April 15, 2008, 11:41:44 PM

ACs linearity doesnt make it a better game. Its popularity is pretty much thanks to its convoluted Kojimaesque story.

Crackdowns true sandbox nature is the very reason why it works so well. Its even better when you factor the fantastic DLC

I don't think you're understanding me. Like at all.

I'm saying it's not linear (because it isn't) and seriously could have used some tightly designed set pieces the player experiences in a linear fashion instead of the random garbage they throw at you.

I don't want to make my own fun.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #79 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:53:09 PM »

Reboot the gangs and kill them at higher difficulty while maxing your guy. Go after stunt rings. Rooftop and street races are both pretty fun, and more are added with DLC.

I guess some fun is lost if you don't care about achievements. I sorta care and a bunch were fun to go after. I'll probably pick the game up again in 6 months, sweep all the bosses again and have a maxed duder.

Grecco · « **Reply #80 on:** April 15, 2008, 11:55:14 PM »

Get the DLC.

Rocket Tag is awesome

demi · « **Reply #81 on:** April 16, 2008, 12:17:21 AM »

Crackdown is so awesome, Achievements make it

Afterwords, not so much, but at that point I would be done with the game anyway

Assassin's Creed is just bad right from the get-go

Difference

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #82 on:** April 16, 2008, 12:51:54 AM »

Crackdown > GTA.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #83 on:** April 16, 2008, 09:21:41 AM »

Is there a good place to pre-order GTA4 and get some free shit?

What is included in the LE package and how much extra is it?

drohne · « **Reply #84 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:19:09 PM »

Quote from: skip pfister

the rockstar guys told us they think that the PS3 looks slightly better, but it really was hard to tell.

$50 million well spent

playstation franchise

xbots

MCD · « **Reply #85 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:21:00 PM »

shut up calcifer

drohne · « **Reply #86 on:** April 16, 2008, 05:22:29 PM »

sfag talking points

calcifer · « **Reply #87 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:09:36 PM »

ANOTHER VICTORY FOR TEAM KUTARAGI

XFAGBOX

drohne · « **Reply #88 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:11:44 PM »

year of ps3 continues

spoiler (click to show/hide)

honestly i'll be surprised if the 360 version doesn't come out slightly ahead -- unless they flew him out to scotland, skip was probably talking to publishing or pr folks rather than the development team as such. and they've been showing the 360 build all along.

[close]

MCD · « **Reply #89 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:19:08 PM »

paging dcharlie...

Rman · « **Reply #90 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:20:52 PM »

People still getting worked up on this multiplatform nonsense. It will never end I guess.

tiesto · « **Reply #91 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:25:30 PM »

So I'm reading something about how there are no checkpoints during missions... Rockstar fails again.

drohne · « **Reply #92 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:34:31 PM »

Quote from: McDragon on April 16, 2008, 06:19:08 PM

paging dcharlie...

send him a gaf pm

MCD · « **Reply #93 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:36:50 PM »

i'm banned lol

Himu · « **Reply #94 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:45:16 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on April 16, 2008, 06:25:30 PM

So I'm reading something about how there are no checkpoints during missions... Rockstar fails again.

SA had a feature where you if you failed a long mission you had the option to go back to the very end of it. IV has brought the feature back.

tiesto troll fails again.

Grecco · « **Reply #95 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:46:00 PM »

Gaf cooties? lol

Himu · « **Reply #96 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:47:04 PM »

bubububu one of the worst looking next gen games part 2

[youtube=425,350]V1Zc1mCNFpE[/youtube]

evilbore ownzored again

Himu · « **Reply #97 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:50:03 PM »

let's compared that video to evilbore's beloved crackdown

[youtube=425,350]WmdiltTz7VQ[/youtube]

evilbore ownzored part 3

MCD · « **Reply #98 on:** April 16, 2008, 06:54:56 PM »

nice ad...

Powerslave · « **Reply #99 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:19:46 PM »

PlayStation®3 wins.

Grecco · « **Reply #100 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:37:40 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on April 16, 2008, 06:50:03 PM

let's compared that video to evilbore's beloved crackdown

evilbore ownzored part 3

Released a year before GTA and did Story Co Op. Crackdown >GTA 4 confirmed.

y2kev · « **Reply #101 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:38:33 PM »

PlayStation 3

Himu · « **Reply #102 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:40:39 PM »

PS3

sony: pissing in xfuck faces 24/7

Quote from: Grecco on April 16, 2008, 07:37:40 PM

Quote from: Himuro on April 16, 2008, 06:50:03 PM
let's compared that video to evilbore's beloved crackdown

evilbore ownzored part 3

Released a year before GTA and did Story Co Op. Crackdown >GTA 4 confirmed.

what story? o rite. jump around and kick things and fight enemies over and over with little that distinguishes the next assassin from the last

Trent Dole · « **Reply #103 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:41:35 PM »

Ugh, enough console faggotry already.

Himu · « **Reply #104 on:** April 16, 2008, 07:42:18 PM »

u mad?

u mad. u mad.

pstriple bringin home the real talk. you can't hide much longer from the truth. we know the truth!

Powerslave · « **Reply #105 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:07:51 PM »

PS3 is gonna kick 360's ass this year.

No trolling or joking either. I'm not part of the 'year of ps3 continues' crowd.

Himu · « **Reply #106 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:09:28 PM »

Me either.

It really is. MS has dropped the goddamn ball.

360's line up sux

Powerslave · « **Reply #107 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:10:39 PM »

year of ps3 continues

hyp · « **Reply #108 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:13:13 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on April 16, 2008, 07:42:18 PM

pstriple bringin home the real talk. you can't hide much longer from the truth. we know the truth!

home.

Himu · « **Reply #109 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:13:35 PM »

Quote from: hyp on April 16, 2008, 08:13:13 PM

Quote from: Himuro on April 16, 2008, 07:42:18 PM
pstriple bringin home the real talk. you can't hide much longer from the truth. we know the truth!

home.

MGS4 > every 360 exclusive this year

MCD · « **Reply #110 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:15:10 PM »

MY FAV GAME > YOUR FAV GAME

hyp · « **Reply #111 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:16:43 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on April 16, 2008, 08:13:35 PM

MGS4 > every 360 exclusive this year

wii fit will sell more than MGS4. now that's the fucking killer app this year. put your ps3 hype on the backburner homie. it's decade of the fucking wii bitchessss!

Himu · « **Reply #112 on:** April 16, 2008, 08:17:28 PM »

Trent Dole · « **Reply #113 on:** April 16, 2008, 10:20:41 PM »

MGS4 =

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #114 on:** April 16, 2008, 11:26:52 PM »

mgs4 looks a bit crap, but easy achievements would definitely make it worth a playthrough

Powerslave · « **Reply #115 on:** April 16, 2008, 11:33:47 PM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on April 16, 2008, 10:20:41 PM

MGS4 =

But you have a MGS4 avatar

Trent Dole · « **Reply #116 on:** April 17, 2008, 12:14:18 AM »

Quote from: Powerslave on April 16, 2008, 11:33:47 PM

Quote from: Trent Dole on April 16, 2008, 10:20:41 PM
MGS4 =

But you have a MGS4 avatar

:ironicat:

Powerslave · « **Reply #117 on:** April 17, 2008, 12:20:08 AM »

:yousuckdick:

Trent Dole · « **Reply #118 on:** April 17, 2008, 12:24:55 AM »

:yourmomswallows:

tiesto · « **Reply #119 on:** April 17, 2008, 12:29:55 AM »

So it looks like there aren't any checkpoints in missions, once again... seriously now, R*... what's the deal? The missions in these games just keep getting longer, and it's so frustrating to have to do a few easy and boring parts just to try your hand at the final and really difficult part, a problem I had with SA and it's extra long missions. Looks like R* still doesn't want to fix the problems that make the GTA series so shitty.

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Author Topic: Grand Theft Backlash: What's with the hate? (Read 20216 times)