Author Topic: Official Ninja Gaiden II Thread. (Read 81448 times)

cool breeze · « **Reply #180 on:** June 05, 2008, 06:26:41 PM »

I am now just using the two swords that I leveled up to 3. They are pretty awesome once you level them up.

and Chapter 5 on is fucking hard compared to 4 and below.

Vizzys · « **Reply #181 on:** June 05, 2008, 07:33:04 PM »

chapter 6 was the most annoyingly tough yet holy shit

room after room of gangraping werewolves complete with room after room of those snake like things

then you fight the boss who has insanely powerful attacks that are somewhat hard to dodge and when you beat him, you get to fight 20+ more werewolves at once while the crowd is throwing limbs at you

awesome

i must have continued like 20 times at least throughout the level

Grecco · « **Reply #182 on:** June 05, 2008, 07:45:55 PM »

These Suicide Ninjas are kicking my ass in the first level

Narag · « **Reply #183 on:** June 05, 2008, 07:52:19 PM »

haha CHAPTER 7 JUST DOES NOT END

Vizzys · « **Reply #184 on:** June 05, 2008, 08:15:08 PM »

i have a new hatred in life

bazooka ninjas

Vizzys · « **Reply #185 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:16:38 PM »

welp, chapter 7 blows

you fight that genshin guy again who blocks 80% of your attacks and this time he has like 7 ninjas throwing exploding shurukins at you while you are trying to land a single hit

but thats not all, no hes not even the last boss...ridiculous as that might sound

the plane crashes and out of fucking nowhere comes a really pissed off armadillo that shoots flaming rocks out of his back and rolls around to crush you like you are playing lost planet or something

if you have no items left after fighting genshin, just do yourself a favor and shut off the 360 because without long distance attacks or a fuckload of healing items the armadillo is completely impossible.

oh and he explodes at the end killing you instantly unless you block, something you might learn the hard way

chapter 8 has rocket pod ninjas to replace the bazooka ones as the most annoying fucks in the game, which means im done for the day

Narag · « **Reply #186 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:22:22 PM »

There should only be two sets of ninjas with Genshin.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

If you're not adverse to using Ninpo, its ideal there. Otherwise Genshin is a defensive battle. You either dodge his charge moves and attack or block his regular attacks then dodge when his end of combo audio cue comes up.

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As for the Armadillo, its all about

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hitting the head. In fact, the best position one can be in seems to be when its using its flame breath. There's enough time to fire a fully charged UT bow shot then do whatever the hell the X+A flip is through the flame as it passes by. Flying Swallow murders it as well.

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Vizzys · « **Reply #187 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:32:10 PM »

no I just used incendiarys+ninpo to take out the ninjas while jumping around a bunch to avoid their throws
then i focused on genshin once he was alone

but that armadillo is still a huge wtf
but yes i noticed the gaping weakpoint in his head, I had only 10 of those explosives left and a bunch or arrows but it was still incredibly annoying

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #188 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:36:21 PM »

Only played Chapter 1 last night before bed.

Is anyone finding it much easier than before to chain UTs? The huge number of bad guys means there is ALWAYS essence floating around. I love it.

Himu · « **Reply #189 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:49:23 PM »

Level 5 is just fucking amazing. JUST AMAZING. One of the best water levels in a LONG TIME.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #190 on:** June 06, 2008, 12:05:26 AM »

Hmmmm...

The camera is horrible. Absoulutly dreadful... until I discovered the RT button,now it is tolerable.

This game is HARD. I thought I was hotshit and started on Path of the Warrior and quickly found out I was just shit. So,I changed to Path of the Acolyte and it is still really hard but I'm getting the hang of things. I'm on Chapter 3 and I'm really enjoying it,good sequel is good.

Himu · « **Reply #191 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:02:02 AM »

hahahha

ninja dog

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #192 on:** June 06, 2008, 12:57:48 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 05, 2008, 06:19:36 PM

You need a Japanese or Euro Gold account

That's fucking stoopit...

Himu · « **Reply #193 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:12:31 PM »

Some enemies will dodge flying swallow and then kick your ass, like the werewolves.

I'm on chapter 7.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #194 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:20:36 PM »

Am I distinguished mentally-challenged or is the boss of chapter 3 impossible to beat?

Vizzys · « **Reply #195 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:23:51 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on June 06, 2008, 03:18:01 PM

That is actually good to know.

On a side note why the fuck do the dogs shoot firecrackers at you? Is Itagaki in fact a high functioning distinguished mentally-challenged fellow with an aptitude for making action (not fighting) games?

projectile shooting enemies get much, much worse as the game goes on

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #196 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:42:48 PM »

I beat that shit snake but had 0 fun while doing it.

Master Ninja'd the level too but I'm really thinking about selling this game to a friend or trading it in.

Himu · « **Reply #197 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:45:50 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 06, 2008, 03:20:36 PM

Am I distinguished mentally-challenged or is the boss of chapter 3 impossible to beat?

It's actually a very easy boss. Use the bow. When he's facing you, charge the bow to max and shoot him in the face. On his way towards you he'll likely do some crazy attack that feels out of Panzer Dragoon, but unlike Panzer, you can't shoot all of those orbs down. So instead of attempting to dodge all of them like normal, run forward, hug the edge, so you'll have run by all of them by the time he gets to other side. When he's turning around, charge, release. When he does the electricity attack stay as far as possible. When he turns around, charge, release.

Whenever he's towards YOU, you go should be going towards HIM, that way you can prepare for his attacks and dodge them, and also prepare to charge your bow as he turns around.

Himu · « **Reply #198 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:47:01 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on June 06, 2008, 03:18:01 PM

That is actually good to know.

On a side note why the fuck do the dogs shoot firecrackers at you? Is Itagaki in fact a high functioning distinguished mentally-challenged fellow with an aptitude for making action (not fighting) games?

They're NINJA dogs. They shoot incendiary shurikens at you.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #199 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:48:42 PM »

I didn't have a problem with him zapping me or his orbs, but the fish were undodgeable and unblockable and his blue face attack is even worse.

And having a boss fight in fucking Ninja Gaiden dependent on standing in one spot and charging a bow is fucking distinguished mentally-challenged. Hearing that there's more bullshit gimmicks like that in the future, plus more annoying ranged enemies and shit is really killing my interest in this game. I'm getting sick of having swarms of enemies (bats, guys, whatever) attacking me all the time.

I feel like I'd have more fun replaying the first game, that one was challenging but I never felt like the game was just fucking with me.

demi · « **Reply #200 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:52:36 PM »

Chapter 3 boss is distinguished mentally-challenged, but you can knock him down to slash him. I got him to do it near the end of the fight... dunno how I did it. Otherwise, I just shot Ninpo when those fish attacked, so they would get hit, and spawn Ki and Health. And the occasional charged Bow shot. Why am I using bow? I should be able to just whoop his ass.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #201 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:54:06 PM »

Seriously, fuck the bow. I guess I shoulda thought of ninpo.

It took me 5 or 6 perfect full charge headshots to get him to hit the ground. I beat him with one sliver of health remaining after having used one regular herb of life.

Putting it that way it doesn't sound like I had a hard time with him, but it was frustrating and 0 fun.

Himu · « **Reply #202 on:** June 06, 2008, 03:56:17 PM »

What's wrong with using the bow? Aside from a few fights, you really never have to sit there and charge. Just jump in the air and press the projectile button and the computer will auto aim.

Vizzys · « **Reply #203 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:06:18 PM »

chapter 8 is the worst chapter in the game I have decided

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #204 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:07:19 PM »

Vizzys · « **Reply #205 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:14:37 PM »

rocket spamming, multiple fiends in mecha suits

landmines you cant see, safe paths you must slowly follow between said mines while getting arrows shot at you from multiple windows of a building

tons upon tons of incendiary ninjas with no save point in sight

all this before a midboss

Himu · « **Reply #206 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:21:02 PM »

That sounds fucking awesome. Ninja dogs am cry. Fuckin weaksauce.

Incendiary ninjas aren't that tough once you realize how to defuse the explosion. OWNZORED.

Narag · « **Reply #207 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:23:26 PM »

Quote from: Viz on June 06, 2008, 04:14:37 PM

rocket spamming, multiple fiends in mecha suits
Ninpo or just run the hell past them if at all possible

landmines you cant see, safe paths you must slowly follow between said mines while getting arrows shot at you from multiple windows of a building
The windows are clearable before you cross the landmines
tons upon tons of incendiary ninjas with no save point in sight
Watch the timing on the explosives. If you're doing a move with an afterimage, I'm thinking you're invincible and the explosions won't hurt. Ex. Flying Swallow or the X+A dodge.
all this before a midboss
Hated that fucker

Vizzys · « **Reply #208 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:26:20 PM »

im past the beginning part I got to the save point by the church looking area,past the landmine stuff

I get owned by the ninjas with incendiarys almost every time and when i dont I notice the door to the save point is locked so I got down to where the train area is and of course more show up to finish me off

Himu · « **Reply #209 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:27:20 PM »

Yeah, I just use guillotine throw or flying swallow to get rid of the explosion.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #210 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:27:54 PM »

Am I supposed to be able to reach the shop and chest that are visible from the second save point in chapter 4? The save point right next to a glowing red ladder that leads up to some busted up highways with flying demons.

It doesn't look like there's a way around, do I wind up doubling back later or am I missing something?

Enl · « **Reply #211 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:32:18 PM »

Chapter 5 was pretty amazing in design but that boss, as beautiful as it was, had me questioning whether some of his attacks were actually dodgable. Loved the skull pit in Chapter 6 and the arena battle. Bazooka ninjas aren't my biggest problem in Chapter 7 I usually take those guys out first. It's the goddamn mechademons and walking turrets that end up draining my health. The trials 4 and 5 weren't so bad compared to 3's but the fifth one with the onslaught of mechademons and bazooka ninjas had me sweating.

Oh yeah, the maxed out Lunar is frickin badass!

FatalT · « **Reply #212 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:33:38 PM »

Chapter 3 boss was easy. Ninja dogs. Just use the bow, dodge the blue face, and when the smaller guys rush towards you, just use the Lunar Staff's Y attack to shield yourself.

Narag · « **Reply #213 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:35:23 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 06, 2008, 04:27:54 PM

Am I supposed to be able to reach the shop and chest that are visible from the second save point in chapter 4? The save point right next to a glowing red ladder that leads up to some busted up highways with flying demons.

It doesn't look like there's a way around, do I wind up doubling back later or am I missing something?

You'll be able to come back down to it. It is optional though iirc and not along the path you should be taking.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #214 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:36:47 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on June 06, 2008, 04:33:38 PM

Chapter 3 boss was easy. Ninja dogs. Just use the bow, dodge the blue face, and when the smaller guys rush towards you, just use the Lunar Staff's Y attack to shield yourself.

Yea, why shouldn't I redo it 5 times so I can try every possible weapon for a counter to each of his attacks

demi · « **Reply #215 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:54:32 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on June 06, 2008, 04:33:38 PM

Chapter 3 boss was easy. Ninja dogs. Just use the bow, dodge the blue face, and when the smaller guys rush towards you, just use the Lunar Staff's Y attack to shield yourself.

Sounds like a good plan for people who are only using a certain weapon for the achievements

I dont think you really read what you type sometimes

Narag · « **Reply #216 on:** June 06, 2008, 05:00:16 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 06, 2008, 04:54:32 PM

Quote from: FatalT on June 06, 2008, 04:33:38 PM
Chapter 3 boss was easy. Ninja dogs. Just use the bow, dodge the blue face, and when the smaller guys rush towards you, just use the Lunar Staff's Y attack to shield yourself.

Sounds like a good plan for people who are only using a certain weapon for the achievements

I dont think you really read what you type sometimes

Charged shot + subsequent shockwave downs all his little fish or whatever. They can be killed while they're flopping around.

demi · « **Reply #217 on:** June 06, 2008, 05:01:17 PM »

Well it doesnt matter now! I beat him! Having to rely on the bow is still pretty dumb. Seems DMC has better designed bosses.

Narag · « **Reply #218 on:** June 06, 2008, 05:02:54 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 06, 2008, 05:01:17 PM

Well it doesnt matter now! I beat him! Having to rely on the bow is still pretty dumb. Seems DMC has better designed bosses.

I don't know if you're joking or not, but I agree thus far. The only real awe inducing boss thus far is Genshin and that's only because he punishes the fuck out of you if you don't know how to handle him.

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on June 06, 2008, 05:02:24 PM

Unfortunately with the addition of Alexei, Ninja Gaiden can claim to be the gayest action game ever made.

I think NG is safe so long as johnny yong bosch is Nero's VA.

demi · « **Reply #219 on:** June 06, 2008, 05:03:19 PM »

A city can be disturbed... with a strike of LIGHTNING! *crackow*

FatalT · « **Reply #220 on:** June 06, 2008, 05:09:49 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 06, 2008, 04:54:32 PM

Sounds like a good plan for people who are only using a certain weapon for the achievements

I dont think you really read what you type sometimes

Oh, sorry, I forgot about achievement fegs like you.

Himu · « **Reply #221 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:12:07 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on June 06, 2008, 04:33:38 PM

Chapter 3 boss was easy. Ninja dogs. Just use the bow, dodge the blue face, and when the smaller guys rush towards you, just use the Lunar Staff's Y attack to shield yourself.

hauhauahua

ninja dogs up itt

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #222 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:20:07 PM »

Himu, weren't you having probs with the blind mid-boss in chapter 4? I fucked his ass up in 90 seconds.

Quote from: Himuro

I'm having trouble with the level 4 boss for some reason. He seems impossible to damage a significant degree.

Huh. I just accidentally hit its hand and it reacted. Maybe that's the weak spot

Anywho, the second trial of valor or w/e is mad easy, those purple peeners are the easiest enemies in the game. Although we'll never know how you'd do...

Quote from: Himuro

Is it possible to go back and redo earlier levels in case you missed anything?

Yeah, I didn't get that rod so I was wondering...

see also

Quote from: Himuro

What the fuck at this platforming part in level 6. I killed the skeleton boss and I go up to the end up of the path. There's this big room across from me and I have no clue how to get across this gap. I try to wall run and I fall all the way down and I go back up, being forced to fight enemies I already defeated...AGAIN.

THIS IS SO distinguished mentally-challenged

:'( Ninja Dog :'(

Narag · « **Reply #223 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:23:28 PM »

Is it get help in the GAF thread to talk shit in this one?

Third · « **Reply #224 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:27:00 PM »

NG1 is better.

Chapter 10 proves that this game isn't a finished product. Framerate dips below 10fps during the stairs fight.

Unacceptable. Itagayki sucks.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #225 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:29:32 PM »

Holy shit, I got like 30k in gold orbs for doing the second trial of valor

Vizzys · « **Reply #226 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:43:08 PM »

himuro that jump looks daunting but it isnt

just run and jump and you should catch the ledge

if not try flying swallow over

Enl · « **Reply #227 on:** June 06, 2008, 06:50:37 PM »

Quote from: First on June 06, 2008, 06:27:00 PM

NG1 is better.

Chapter 10 proves that this game isn't a finished product. Framerate dips below 10fps during the stairs fight.

Unacceptable. Itagayki sucks.

Ninja Gaiden does appear to have more polish than this game and it's not just the framerate but the enemies as well. In NG every boss seemed constructed in a way to where you can dodge their attacks. It was tough but fair at the same time. In this one it looks like the gave the bosses a shit ton of attacks but rarely a way to get out of them. It seems more cheap than fair like the first game. I hope I'm wrong as I look forward to seeing the future videos of players besting some of these bosses without taking a hit.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #228 on:** June 06, 2008, 07:06:57 PM »

I'm returning this game.

I love the game really, and i was having a blast, but i just can't beat the chapter 3 boss. I hate that kind of bosses, there was one just like that in DMC3. Creepy ass, though boss, goddamnit.

I hate it, it's not a fight. I only handle the fights well, these "monster" bosses, i just hate them, in every game.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #229 on:** June 06, 2008, 07:26:24 PM »

I love the ineffective white dude who gets killed by werewolves at the start of chapter 5

Beezy · « **Reply #230 on:** June 06, 2008, 07:51:26 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 06, 2008, 05:01:17 PM

Seems DMC has better designed bosses.

Yeah, all 5 of them.

demi · « **Reply #231 on:** June 06, 2008, 07:55:27 PM »

Why mess with success? You're playing as a different character, the field has changed.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #232 on:** June 06, 2008, 08:00:03 PM »

Awesome, 1up show this week reiterates how NG2 has a bad story, which takes down the whole game. Keep posturing like real critics, someone may take you seriously one day. I guess I wouldn't want to have to make choices about "good" and "bad" stories in the game world though--you end up being overcritical about something like NG2 and you make too many concessions to a bloated mess like MGS in hopes that it makes the hobby more artistically legit.

Quote from: WrikaWrek on June 06, 2008, 07:06:57 PM

I'm returning this game.

I love the game really, and i was having a blast, but i just can't beat the chapter 3 boss. I hate that kind of bosses, there was one just like that in DMC3. Creepy ass, though boss, goddamnit.

I hate it, it's not a fight. I only handle the fights well, these "monster" bosses, i just hate them, in every game.

I got destroyed by that guy until I realized the trick. Use ninpo when the fish fly at you, run past him when he shoots the blue head, and go for headshots with the bow, charged if possible. Eventually he'll flip over and you go to town on his ass (use the lunar so your hits will also take out the fish that'll fly at you.)

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #233 on:** June 06, 2008, 09:09:44 PM »

Fighting on water is such a great idea, thank you itagaki

Rman · « **Reply #234 on:** June 06, 2008, 09:15:41 PM »

People complaining about stories in action games? Really?

Beezy · « **Reply #235 on:** June 06, 2008, 09:17:45 PM »

Quote from: Rman on June 06, 2008, 09:15:41 PM

People complaining about stories in action games? Really?

More proof that reviewers are full of shit nowadays.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #236 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:11:24 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #237 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:17:02 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on June 06, 2008, 06:20:07 PM

Himu, weren't you having probs with the blind mid-boss in chapter 4? I fucked his ass up in 90 seconds.

Quote from: Himuro
I'm having trouble with the level 4 boss for some reason. He seems impossible to damage a significant degree.

Huh. I just accidentally hit its hand and it reacted. Maybe that's the weak spot

Anywho, the second trial of valor or w/e is mad easy, those purple peeners are the easiest enemies in the game. Although we'll never know how you'd do...

Quote from: Himuro
Is it possible to go back and redo earlier levels in case you missed anything?

Yeah, I didn't get that rod so I was wondering...

see also

Quote from: Himuro
What the fuck at this platforming part in level 6. I killed the skeleton boss and I go up to the end up of the path. There's this big room across from me and I have no clue how to get across this gap. I try to wall run and I fall all the way down and I go back up, being forced to fight enemies I already defeated...AGAIN.

THIS IS SO distinguished mentally-challenged

:'( Ninja Dog :'(

the difference here is that I'm not exactly complaining about how omg itagaki is a cunt and omg this game is so badly designed. I take it like a man.

Himu · « **Reply #238 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:17:27 PM »

omg this game is so cheap

omg this game makes you use the bow?!!?

Himu · « **Reply #239 on:** June 06, 2008, 10:18:57 PM »

Quote from: Rman on June 06, 2008, 09:15:41 PM

People complaining about stories in action games? Really?

Thetrin kept complaining about the story in his irc channel like a little bitch.

"THE STORY MAKES NO SENSE."

"WHY DOES THIS GAME HAVE A STORY?"

Me: the cutscenes are totally cheesy, over the top, and awesome. They kind of remind me of Devil May Cry 3 so that's awesome.

"BUT IN DMC THE CUTSCENES TACTICALLY MAKE SENSE"

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Author Topic: Official Ninja Gaiden II Thread. (Read 81448 times)