Official Ninja Gaiden II Thread.

[AdmiralViscen]

Got it


Wow, NG HD total

This might look better in screens.

[Enl]

I'm on the 3rd Chapter right now and while I really like a lot of the changes made to the combat system the level design so far really took a hit for the worst. The two levels I've finished go on for far too long and you are constantly fighting the same groups of enemies over and over. No more is the tightly woven design of the first game or the pacing of enemies change ups. Maybe it will improve but at the moment I'm not feeling it. Even the 3rd Chapter doesn't seem much different in design than the last two. It's probably because all the stages so far take place during the night and all have a similar color scheme to them. The variety feels very thin right now.

Also the camera does seem worse than the first game. In the first game the only time I really had a problem with the camera was the first chapter. In this one I seem to be fighting it all the time, especially since the amount of enemies attacking you at once has increased and all of them are throwing projectiles at you. The camera angle is a bit too low from Ryu and they don't give you much freedom to change it with the right stick.

[demi]

Haha... here comes the backlash... delicious. It's ok guys, DMC4 will be waiting when you take it back.

[Enl]

Already have Devil May Cry 4 and that game wasn't the shining example of perfection either. Ninja Gaiden 2's combat is far more more intricate than DMC4's, but DMC4's level design is way more appealling than what I've seen so far in NG2 (that is until you reach the halfway point and you start going backwards through the same stages and bosses). At the moment NG2 does seem to have more flaws than DMC4 did.

[WrikaWrek]

I'm stuck on the boss of the 3rd chapter.  

Anyway, i don't know, personally, i think people are full of shit. Yeah there's some tough situations with the archers, and sometimes you have to consider the camera as part of the gameplay, but i've seen nothing so far that passes as broken, and not as challenge.

3rd chapters in, and i've had more fun with NG2 than i did with the whole of DMc4.

[ferrarimanf355]

[Draft]

All of the Ninja Gaiden penny Arcades are excellent.

[demi]

I have it, how does the New Game + work? Can I just beat it on Acolyte and work my way up with all my abilities and health?

[Vizzys]

Got my copy



Path of the Warrior

[AdmiralViscen]

Game rulz

[Himu]

I'm on the 3rd Chapter right now and while I really like a lot of the changes made to the combat system the level design so far really took a hit for the worst. The two levels I've finished go on for far too long and you are constantly fighting the same groups of enemies over and over. No more is the tightly woven design of the first game or the pacing of enemies change ups. Maybe it will improve but at the moment I'm not feeling it. Even the 3rd Chapter doesn't seem much different in design than the last two. It's probably because all the stages so far take place during the night and all have a similar color scheme to them. The variety feels very thin right now.

Also the camera does seem worse than the first game. In the first game the only time I really had a problem with the camera was the first chapter. In this one I seem to be fighting it all the time, especially since the amount of enemies attacking you at once has increased and all of them are throwing projectiles at you. The camera angle is a bit too low from Ryu and they don't give you much freedom to change it with the right stick.

what are you talking about. The first two chapters of Ninja Gaiden you're mostly fighting the same people. In the first chapter, you're fighting ninjas in green or whatever. The second chapter, you really only fight Black Spider Clan ninjas, and the guys on horses halfway through the chapter. If anything, NG2's first two chapters are far more varied in terms of enemies; in the first chapter you fight black spider ninjas who use traditional ninja melee, and ninjas who use ninpo, AND archers. In the second chapter, you fight those guys, ninja dogs, AND the boss from the first chapter who comes with his own minions.

Further more, the level design is probably better in the first two chapters in NG2 than the first two in NG1. NG2's first chapter isn't mostly easy if you're an NG vet, but it has everything you really need in an NG level: little to no puzzle solving, occasional platforming, teaching the players the ropes of all the skills they've acquired thus far, and just plain being a good ol blood bath. The second chapter increases all of this ten fold, and is way harder than NG1's second chapter. The mid boss alone makes it better.

So basically, what the hell are you talking about?

[Himu]

I've had one area where the camera has been an issue, and that was during the mid boss fight in chapter 2.

[Himu]

At the moment NG2 does seem to have more flaws than DMC4 did.

Bullshit.

[demi]

ITS OVER

DMC4 confirmed champion... wrap it up

[Himu]

3rd chapters in, and i've had more fun with NG2 than i did with the whole of DMc4.

This. NG2 is the definitive 3d action game.

[Rman]

ITS OVER

DMC4 confirmed champion... wrap it up

LOL

[muckhole]

Just got home with my copy. It's going to be a sleepless night.

[Narag]

ITS OVER

DMC4 confirmed champion... wrap it up

Keep fighting the good fight, Demi.

[FatalT]

Game is awesome. I don't really care about the camera. CHOPPING OFF BODY PARTS WOOOO!

[Himu]

this game is way harder than ng1

[cool breeze]

this game is way harder than ng1

At least I remember Ninja Gaiden 1 giving me more trouble than I am having with NG2.  After NG2 I might replay some of NG1 and see if I am now super great at it.

[TVC15]

Man, this game is like pornographically violent.  Limbs flying everywhere, torsos getting cut in half.  Blood everywhere.

So far, I'm lovin' it.  While I'm still bummed about it being more linear, it plays that much faster that I really don't mind.  I dig the visuals, and the slowdown doesn't bug me (although if a key battle is burdened with slowdown, I could change my tune quickly).  I am kinda shocked that they somehow managed to make the camera even worse.  I wish I could set it so it would auto recenter on block.

So far, it's exactly what I wanted in a sequel!

[Narag]

this game is way harder than ng1

At least I remember Ninja Gaiden 1 giving me more trouble than I am having with NG2.  After NG2 I might replay some of NG1 and see if I am now super great at it.

I couldn't even beat those red fuckers in NG1. This seems pretty easy so far.

[Himu]

this game is way harder than ng1

At least I remember Ninja Gaiden 1 giving me more trouble than I am having with NG2.  After NG2 I might replay some of NG1 and see if I am now super great at it.

I popped in NG: Black last night and breezed through 6 chapters like it was nothing. Before, when I played it years ago, I struggled a bit. But this can be quite hectic.

[Himu]

hahahaha, it's getting a lot easier now. NG is the type of game that forces you to get better. I beat chapter 3's boss on my second try. Gogogo.

[Robo]

So is there any platforming?

[Don Flamenco]

DOA2 ENGINE NEVER LOOKED SO GOOD, am i rite gametrailers?

this game is the real deal. goty.

[Narag]

Bitches don't know about my Izuna Drop. 

So is there any platforming?

Not that I've seen in the first 4 stages.

[Himu]

So is there any platforming?

Yes, but it's mostly optional. At least so far.

[Himu]

Bitches don't know about my Izuna Drop. 

XYXXXY

[Enl]

So basically, what the hell are you talking about?

It's more of an issue with how the game is paced and how dull the early environments are. in NG you fight about 7 enemy types and 2 very different bosses in the first two levels. Unlike NG2 those two levels last about 10 minutes a piece and then switches up the enemies again for the next stage.

in NG2 the first four levels are considerably longer but very drab and straightforward in design. In the first stage alone think I think I fought the same group of spider ninjas at least 20 times. Couple of hours later in stage four I'm still fighting those same ninjas again. Yes, the combat is amazing but I was starting to suffer from a bit of enemy fatigue. Even the first game knew when to put an enemy to rest or how to space them out.

Chapter Five however, that's the bloody sex I've been waiting for.

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Severing werewolf limbs, crazy spiky scorpion fiends, 2 new weapons, water combat, good music, a vibrant and more distinctly laid out level

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[Narag]

Holy shit at the intro cutscene to level 5. 

[Smooth Groove]

So is NG2's upscaling decent or does it look more like a Xbox 1 game?  

[Himu]

Hmmm. I've found that NG2 introduces new enemies about as much as the original NG, if not more, if I were to compare the enemy types from the first 4 chapters of NG1 to NG2

[cool breeze]

So is there any platforming?

closest thing to platforming is having to do some wallrunning here and there.

[Himu]

Holy shit at the intro cutscene to level 5. 

The cutscenes rock. The intro in level 3 was fucking amazing. RYU SHOOTS A FIEND WITH A ARROW THROUGH THE NECK, JUMPS ON ITS BACK, AND RIDES IT TO THE SURFACE USING THE ARROW AS A STEERING WHEEL, AND WHEN HE GETS TO THE GROUND HE JUST CHOPS ITS HEAD OFF

I was like  

[Himu]

So is there any platforming?

closest thing to platforming is having to do some wallrunning here and there.

Which is AWESOME

[Robo]

So is there any platforming?

closest thing to platforming is having to do some wallrunning here and there.

Which is AWESOME

I may buy this after all.

[Don Flamenco]

So is NG2's upscaling decent or does it look more like a Xbox 1 game? 

They pulled it off quite nicely.  Looks better than Sigma, though I've only played chapters 1 and 2, which are both very dark.  It's never a whole eyeful of polygon sex like TN's games last gen, but the subtle lighting, backgrounds, and things like that are all great. 

DoA2 engine is invincible. 

[Vizzys]

chapter 3s boss was so gay

[cool breeze]

chapter 3s boss was so gay

It was like 4 cocks up the ass of that gay DMC3 boss, except with the shitty bow and arrow found in NG2.

[Narag]

The bow and arrow is beastly from what I've seen so far. Hilarious to hit a boss for nearly 10% with a charged bow shot.

[demi]

Achievements stack, so you might as well jump in the game as Warrior

I'm doing Acolyte first so I can go back to do the "Finish game using X weapon" achievements, and get a layout of the levels

[Narag]

Achievements stack, so you might as well jump in the game as Warrior

Going for the full 1000?

[cool breeze]

The bow and arrow is beastly from what I've seen so far. Hilarious to hit a boss for nearly 10% with a charged bow shot.

yeah, but I don't want to have to stand around and do that shit.  I am a ninja, not some pussy orc or some shit like that.

[Don Flamenco]

I'm in a daze.  These levels are huge!   

also, I have no idea what I'm doing in this scoring system, but I think I'll play for karma on another run

narag-- the bow is beastly.   now that shurikens don't have incredible stun action, I'm going full-time bow.

[demi]

Me am fuck rusty... yikes

Gonna beat it using just the sword

[Enl]

Dear god at the third Test of Valor. That's a pretty evii set up right there.

Me am fuck rusty... yikes

All that Devil May Cry dumbed your skills down quite a bit didn't it?

[demi]

No, I just forgot how to do the Flying Swallow, turns out I had to learn it first

Now it is cake

[FatalT]

No, I just forgot how to do the Flying Swallow, turns out I had to learn it first

Now it is cake

Of course it's cake when you're playing on Acolyte. Noob.

[Enl]

Just wait until you master the triple flying swallow. Thankfully that move doesn't always work on some enemies and there's still plenty of room for a good butt hurt.

[Himu]

What the fuck. The boss on level 4 is OBLITERATING me. His attacks are hard to dodge, he's too fast, and he's fucking blind because he has no eyes but he always knows where I am. Fuck.

[demi]

I'm playing on Acolyte so I can go back and do the "Finish game using X weapon" achievements, and the Crystal Skulls, etc

Dont doubt my achievement whoring, son

[Narag]

Flying Swallow is overpowered on Warrior still too. Only the bosses punish you for using it.

Genshin  

[Narag]

What the fuck. The boss on level 4 is OBLITERATING me. His attacks are hard to dodge, he's too fast, and he's fucking blind because he has no eyes but he always knows where I am. Fuck.

That's the midboss. Fully charged bow shots to the head do wonders. Try not to stay still and in front of it though or you get roared to death.

[Enl]

What the fuck. The boss on level 4 is OBLITERATING me. His attacks are hard to dodge, he's too fast, and he's fucking blind because he has no eyes but he always knows where I am. Fuck.

That guy was easy. Just go for the hands when they're on the ground and when he's stunned go for the legs. Use the YYY combo with the Dragon Sword on his feet to deal some good damage. Now the real fourth level boss...wow. That was a tough battle.

[Narag]

I didn't think the 4th guy was that bad actually. He hit hard but there was a lot of style over substance in that right as in he had a lot of flashy moves.

[demi]

What's with the cum grunt when you leave Muramasa's shop? Haha

Ungh

[Vizzys]

just beat alexi or however you spell it, tough fight, he has some reallly annoying grab attakcs but I pwnd him with the claws

in the next level you get a sickle+chain, its awesome

[Don Flamenco]