Official Ninja Gaiden II Thread.

[FatalT]

Awesome, 1up show this week reiterates how NG2 has a bad story, which takes down the whole game.  Keep posturing like real critics, someone may take you seriously one day.  I guess I wouldn't want to have to make choices about "good" and "bad" stories in the game world though--you end up being overcritical about something like NG2 and you make too many concessions to a bloated mess like MGS in hopes that it makes the hobby more artistically legit.

I can't wait to hear Shane praising MGS4's shit story.

[Himu]

Fighting on water is such a great idea, thank you itagaki

it really is. the water combat was genius and awesome.

take out the kasuri-gama and own bitches while on water.

[Himu]

not swimming, running on water.

[Draft]

Early impressions is that this shits on NG1 (and therefore all other action games) with a vengeance (har har har) except for these framerate drops, which are heartbreaking.

I mean agonizing.

This game could have used 3 more months in the oven. Something. Anything. But Jesus Christ.

I really do hope it gets a Black or Sigma treatment or SOMETHING. If it takes the power of CELL or a real PC GPU to get this game at a locked 60, then so be it, make it so, all of that.

[Himu]

It's pretty obvious Itagaki wanted to bail as soon as possible.

[Himu]

the game isn't nearly as polished as the first NG. Which is a shame. Though, for the most part, I prefer it. I think it's harder, I like the level designs more, and the cutscenes in this omfgwtfbbq level of awesome.

[Draft]

The framerate is the only issue.

The enemies are more brutal. They're also more varied. They're also more fun to fight. There's also more of them.

The weapons are just ridiculous. I've only powered up the claws to max so far but the fucking things have like 50 different moves. Insane.

But this framerate. Jesus.

It's good like 90% of the time, but when it dips it DIPS.

[Draft]

The game is also alot easier.

You only think that because playing NG1 made you hard.

Permanently.

Every game you have played since and ever will play will be just a tiny bit easier because of NG1.

If you tried to play NG2 without every playing NG1 it would seem much harder. You would probably break your controller or slice your wrists with the disc.

[AdmiralViscen]

omg this game is so cheap

omg this game makes you use the bow?!!?

Uh yea, bow spam is about the most dull thing you can do in this game.


I try to wall run and I fall all the way down and I go back up, being forced to fight enemies I already defeated...AGAIN.

THIS IS SO distinguished mentally-challenged

I try to wall run and I fall all the way down and I go back up, being forced to fight enemies I already defeated...AGAIN.

THIS IS SO distinguished mentally-challenged

I try to wall run and I fall all the way down and I go back up, being forced to fight enemies I already defeated...AGAIN.

THIS IS SO distinguished mentally-challenged

[Draft]

No I compared the two.

Oh did you now. Let me see the spreadsheets.

The auto healing just cuts down on the number of pots you have to buy, which is good, because the price to upgrade weapons has gone way up.

Either way, presumably we're both discussing difficulty on Path of the Warrior, which is ultimately meaningless. Any comparison of difficulty has to take place at Master Ninja difficulty. Everything else is bonus content.

[Himu]

The game is also alot easier.

It isn't.

Wait till you get to chapter 5. The werewolves force me to go all out all the time, I use my incendiary shurikens on them, ninpo...I rarely did that in the first NG.

[AdmiralViscen]

Well, Chapter 6 is off to a strong start. Where the fuck do I go?

nm I got it

[Himu]

There's a pillar that has a platform. Get on the platform and wall jump between the pillars.

[AdmiralViscen]

Did you guys get the crystal skull up by the shop at the top of the water room at the start of chapter 6?

How many do you guys have anyway, I have 8 right now and I haven't been able to reach that one yet.]


edit: lmfao you can just walk on the rooftop

[Vizzys]

well I got to the chapter 8 midboss after about 30 tries or so (not an exaggeration, I got the dreaded achievement of 100 continues) out of pure luck pretty much.

He didnt seem hard at first then he gets two mecha fiend backups that are annoying enough on their own and of course if you kill them they respawn

so i have no items, no ninpo and  not very much patience with this game left

[Himu]

I've got 11 or so, and yes, I got it. I think.

[Narag]

11 here as well including that one.

well I got to the chapter 8 midboss after about 30 tries or so (not an exaggeration, I got the dreaded achievement of 100 continues) out of pure luck pretty much.

He didnt seem hard at first then he gets two mecha fiend backups that are annoying enough on their own and of course if you kill them they respawn

so i have no items, no ninpo and  not very much patience with this game left

The boss is pretty easy so you should be set.

[demi]

I'll tell you what's harder... Highway Star's last solo on Expert  :'(

[Narag]

Level 10 was so awesome gameplay wise, a fucking mess technically.

[Narag]

Windmill Shuriken!   

[Himu]

The bazooka ninjas are fucking FUN to fight

[Himu]

HOLY FUCK @ the tonfas!!

They take out the mechas EASY! Just hit this mecha like with a generic XXXY combo and hit arm came out. Just a few more hits and it overloaded.

HOLY SHIT. It took forever to defeat them with my Scythe!

[Junpei the Tracer!]

The game is also alot easier.

You only think that because playing NG1 made you hard.

Permanently.

Every game you have played since and ever will play will be just a tiny bit easier because of NG1.

If you tried to play NG2 without every playing NG1 it would seem much harder. You would probably break your controller or slice your wrists with the disc.

 



Ninja Dog.

[Narag]

Fuck Genshin and his izuna drop!

[Himu]

I'm fighting Genshin right now and he's got minions! FUCK. AWESOME.

[Vizzys]

I'm fighting Genshin right now and he's got minions! FUCK. AWESOME.

wait for it...

[Narag]

I'm fighting Genshin right now and he's got minions! FUCK. AWESOME.

wait for it...

[Himu]

Holy fucking shit level 7 was one of the best goddamn gaming levels I've played from a 3d action in years. FUCK. YES. Perfect mid boss, perfect level, LOL boss.

MASTER NINJA RANK. NINJA DOGS AM CRY.

Chapter 8 here I go.

[Vizzys]

what a homo

[Himu]

What a himusexual

[Don Flamenco]

Early impressions is that this shits on NG1 (and therefore all other action games) with a vengeance (har har har) except for these framerate drops, which are heartbreaking.

I mean agonizing.

This game could have used 3 more months in the oven. Something. Anything. But Jesus Christ.

I really do hope it gets a Black or Sigma treatment or SOMETHING. If it takes the power of CELL or a real PC GPU to get this game at a locked 60, then so be it, make it so, all of that.

he's there 'till July...I hope he's working on extra content/fixes for NG.  Though they probably gave him a japanese-style firing (go sit at this desk in the corner and don't do anything.)  so....Itagaki's last act will either be the ultimate win patch or a virus that kills all 360s.    or just some dlc ninja dog armor.

A pc version would be a god send.


anyway, impressions up to chapter 5, 3rd test of valor:
--don't stop moving or you die.  the threat of off screen shit is amazing.
--the enemies have some amazing rush-downs and juggles
--life refill is a necessity right now but when you get really good, the game will become a pure karma hunt without much worry about using/conserving healing items at all.  I like them prospects.
--haven't paid close enough attention to the karma system...seems more complex this time
--these levels are incredibly long and thanks to the removal of instanced battles, you're basically never not killing shit
--limb chopping makes this the most satisfying combat ever in an action game.  Itagaki stole God of War's "I'm kratos and i'm brutal" shtick and made it 5000x more awesome.
--All the little tweaks and changes make the flow of the game perfect.  Too bad nobody reviewing the game had played NG1 or they would've noticed.

the bad:
--frame drops, graphics glitches. meh, so it's not perfect.  it's one of...4 (DoA4, CoD2, CoD4..anything else) 360 games that are actually running at 60fps. MS lied to you, so don't blame Team Ninja for not having 60fps, HDR, 4xAA, 16xAF etc. etc.
--not as much of a sense of scale.  The first one is all "they killed my village! Now I'm gonna blow up a blimp, fuck the army's after me, fuck now the demons of hell are after me, i'm gonna ghost ride a train..."
This one is more of a massacre, then your ho picks you up in a helicopter to go somewhere else.
--last itagaki NG, reign of Hayashi begins.

[Narag]

DMC4 is 60 fps.

[Himu]

the only time i noticed a bad frame rate in this game is when you die and it's like 1 fps and it takes forever for the game over screen to pop up or when you purposely run away forcing the enemies to chase after you and multiply. First time I played level 5, out of curiousity, I ran through the majority of the level till I got to a dead end with the werewolves on my tail. I had about 20-30 werewolves surrounding me at the end of it and the frame rate was like 5 fps.

[Don Flamenco]

DMC4 is 60 fps.

dur, can't believe I forgot that. 

[Vizzys]

still cant beat level 8 midboss

anger rising

video of me sucking at this game: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/226952.html

[Narag]

Level 12 was fuckhard 

[Himu]

still cant beat level 8 midboss

anger rising

video of me sucking at this game: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/226952.html

tip: use incendiary shurikens

[Vizzys]

if I had some I might have

[demi]

Damn, Viz sucks...

[Himu]

is ayane in this game at all

[Vizzys]

Damn, Viz sucks...

im not playing acolyte

edit: i got the 100 hit combo achievement with the sickle if that makes up for it, probably doesn't

[Himu]

i got the 100 hit combo achievement on like level 4 or 5

[Don Flamenco]

Is there a site for hardcore NG players?  I used to go to the gamefaqs NG boards since Bigalski, Shinobier, and those guys posted their vids there...

[WrikaWrek]

I'm returning this game.

I love the game really, and i was having a blast, but i just can't beat the chapter 3 boss. I hate that kind of bosses, there was one just like that in DMC3. Creepy ass, though boss, goddamnit.

I hate it, it's not a fight. I only handle the fights well, these "monster" bosses, i just hate them, in every game.

I got destroyed by that guy until I realized the trick.  Use ninpo when the fish fly at you, run past him when he shoots the blue head, and go for headshots with the bow, charged if possible.  Eventually he'll flip over and you go to town on his ass (use the lunar so your hits will also take out the fish that'll fly at you.)

I'm just bad against this kind of bosses, but i managed. I kept a shorter distance with him this time around, charged bow his face, and i would just combo Y the little fish flying at me, i had to use a couple of healing herbs but i managed to kick his ass.

It wasn't so bad when i figured it out. I got a Master Ninja rank at the end of the level. My problem really is just this kind of bosses.

[MCD]

Is there a site for hardcore NG players?  I used to go to the gamefaqs NG boards since Bigalski, Shinobier, and those guys posted their vids there...

http://www.iberiansngrealm.com/
http://www.iberiansngrealm.com/phpBB3/index.php

[Don Flamenco]

Is there a site for hardcore NG players?  I used to go to the gamefaqs NG boards since Bigalski, Shinobier, and those guys posted their vids there...

http://www.iberiansngrealm.com/
http://www.iberiansngrealm.com/phpBB3/index.php

Thanks. 

and I told you you'd get banned!

[MCD]

it's all good.

i went to the hospital the day after and now i am taking a break, just sitting and playing my ds.

[Enl]

Wow the last boss on Chapter 8 was stupid easy, possibly the easiest one yet next to the first boss. I guess they had to balace out the insanity of the midboss on that stage, ugh. Loving Chapter 9 so far. It's a great place to play with your claws.

[AdmiralViscen]

The fourth test of valor was a joke.

I hear they actually get easier as the game goes on, any truth to that? Got a Life of the Thousand Gods for it.

Maxed dual swords is shit hot. I have that, Dragon Sword, and the chain scythe thing maxed with the Pole and claws at lvl2

[AdmiralViscen]

Fuck, wasn't I supposed to get Tonfas before Piercing Void? I think I missed them

edit: nope


Genshin v2.0 is a joke, spam Y with level 3 double swords and ignore his other homies

[Himu]

I guess I had a different experience then because his dudes were spamming exploding shurikens like nobody's business

[archie4208]

Level 3 boss was fucking hard.  Goddamn I suck.

[Enl]

All of you bow haters better grow an extra nut by the time you reach level 9's boss. Fun little battle that was.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Also the new moves on the flails are sick, and it's funny how they brought those in right when they introduced NG2's variation of the axe zombies from NG1.

[close]

Chapter 10 is bloody awesome far!

[AdmiralViscen]

I guess I had a different experience then because his dudes were spamming exploding shurikens like nobody's business

You're on Warrior though right?

[Third]

Those test of valor things were pretty easy. Never died during a test.

I'm currently at chapter 14 (warrior)
The boss battles are getting so cheap. Just defeated the zombie Genshin, he's pretty hard. *cutscene* An even harder boss arrives after him and I had to beat it. There's no savepoint after the first fight and you'll have to fight an even harder boss..

FUCK THAT SHIT, SO FUCKING CHEAP. I WAS SO MAD.

But I beat them.
Now I'm at the boss that spews blood at me. I don't know how to kill it. I use the bow, but the damage is very minimal. It's easy to dodge his attacks, but I just don't know how to kill it faster...

[AdmiralViscen]

Yea, I'm really not too happy with the bosses in this game. I love the standard levels and even the Valor things, but too many of the bosses require abuse of one stupid ass move.

[Cormacaroni]

No I compared the two.

Any comparison of difficulty has to take place at Master Ninja difficulty. Everything else is bonus content.

Draft

[Third]

Yea, I'm really not too happy with the bosses in this game. I love the standard levels and even the Valor things, but too many of the bosses require abuse of one stupid ass move.

The exploding turtle boss LOL.
That one caught me off guard.
So cheap and pathetic.

But I have to say that NG's boss battles were harder than in this game. NG2 bosses are hard because they're dealing cheap attacks.

[AdmiralViscen]

I agree. It was way more satisfying to beat bosses in the first game.

I just spammed incendiaries on the armadillo and he went down without hurting me. Fortunately I knew about the explosion beforehand.

[archie4208]

I killed the level 4 boss my first try but I keep on dying to werewolf yard trash in level 5.  This game is pretty unbalanced.