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Shittastic Too Human demo aside

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they let all the trolls have fun with too human early on and once they were all full...

unleash ff13 lol.

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-install all your games so they can collect the disks and dispose of them in an environmentally safe way
-repurpose the 360 as a netflix delivery box to recycle proactively

yes i say they are doing very well
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Fuck thsi game is abysmal, sorry Denis

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It says a whole lot about the miserable state of things when the announcement of a multiplatform game makes the biggest splash.  :P

Nah, they have like two whole games that look great, and even a few more if you're one of those sods who own only a 360.

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-install all your games so they can collect the disks and dispose of them in an environmentally safe way


Don't you still have to have the disk in the tray?
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-install all your games so they can collect the disks and dispose of them in an environmentally safe way


Don't you still have to have the disk in the tray?

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Uhh, so that's sort of like the by now ancient Eyetoy + XMB demonstration? I'm still annoyed that they haven't implemented that, would be a nice party trick. For the 360, that'd require one hell of a redesign from the current clunky, unresponsive and claustrophobic, but I guess anything is possible. You'd still have to deal with a distinguished mentally-challenged device as opposed to navigationg with hand gestures, but hey.

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Uhh, so that's sort of like the by now ancient Eyetoy + XMB demonstration? I'm still annoyed that they haven't implemented that, would be a nice party trick. For the 360, that'd require one hell of a redesign from the current clunky, unresponsive and claustrophobic, but I guess anything is possible. You'd still have to deal with a distinguished mentally-challenged device as opposed to navigationg with hand gestures, but hey.

lol, owned

Except there is no distinguished mentally-challenged device... and no Minority Report navigation. Try harder, damn it. It's not like I run a clean operation here, so it should be no problem finding better owned-points.

In other news, I'm happy that the current SHIT interface is finally being sent to the dumps, where it has belonged all along.

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Your right, your cardinal complaint, that they would release a half assed motion device, did not come true.

They did however totally redo their clunky ass interface, which is what you were hoping would be too much for them to do.

Then they threw in 8 man parties for the fuck of it and made 2.4 look like an even  bigger joke. With integration with all titles, no less.

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The movie party shit sounds awesome, really. Thats what sounds the coolest to me.
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Your right, your cardinal complaint, that they would release a half assed motion device, did not come true.

They did however totally redo their clunky ass interface, which is what you were hoping would be too much for them to do.

Then they threw in 8 man parties for the fuck of it and made 2.4 look like an even  bigger joke. With integration with all titles, no less.

Actually, I'm genuinely happy about it. When I had the loaner 360, the Dashboard was the by far most obnoxious thing about the whole experience. Going between the ultra-smooth, tree-based XMB to that shit, that was painful. This, is much better.

Still, community focus is crazy nerdy.

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it is indeed nerdy, but it keeps sucking the wind out of sony's sails and forces them to squander more resources on their budget graphics solution cum blu-ray player. anything that makes kittonwy and tabris twitch is good by me, even if i'll never use it!
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What I never understood about Sony and Home, and I don't understand about this party sharing stuff, is why allow it?  When I am in a party with friends, it will be lemon party pics everywhere all the time.  And I'm certain we'll eventually organize a Showgirls viewing party.  And that won't end well, either

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FFXIII 360 makes kittonz cry but maybe Unchartedz 2 2morrow RAWR?

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Your right, your cardinal complaint, that they would release a half assed motion device, did not come true.

They did however totally redo their clunky ass interface, which is what you were hoping would be too much for them to do.

Then they threw in 8 man parties for the fuck of it and made 2.4 look like an even  bigger joke. With integration with all titles, no less.

Actually, I'm genuinely happy about it. When I had the loaner 360, the Dashboard was the by far most obnoxious thing about the whole experience. Going between the ultra-smooth, tree-based XMB to that shit, that was painful. This, is much better.

Still, community focus is crazy nerdy.

It's the opposite of nerdy when you game with real friends.

Playing with real friends is pointless on PS3, which is why I don't game online on PS3.


edit: And yea, picking furniture for a digital room is truly the ultimate in nerdorama

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it is indeed nerdy, but it keeps sucking the wind out of sony's sails and forces them to squander more resources on their budget graphics solution cum blu-ray player. anything that makes kittonwy and tabris twitch is good by me, even if i'll never use it!

Well, even I can agree with that. Still, commenting about budget graphics solutions when some evidence so clearly suggests otherwise sort of takes the sail out of your own voyage.

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what evidence would that be
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who cares

ps3 sucks
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Your right, your cardinal complaint, that they would release a half assed motion device, did not come true.

They did however totally redo their clunky ass interface, which is what you were hoping would be too much for them to do.

Then they threw in 8 man parties for the fuck of it and made 2.4 look like an even  bigger joke. With integration with all titles, no less.

Actually, I'm genuinely happy about it. When I had the loaner 360, the Dashboard was the by far most obnoxious thing about the whole experience. Going between the ultra-smooth, tree-based XMB to that shit, that was painful. This, is much better.

Still, community focus is crazy nerdy.

It's the opposite of nerdy when you game with real friends.

Playing with real friends is pointless on PS3, which is why I don't game online on PS3.

No, it's still pretty damned nerdy.

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what evidence would that be

Killzone 2.



I'll get back to you with other examples some other time.  >:(

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No, it's really not nerdy. When you're not playing with randoms then it's a necessity to be able to talk to each other and to stay in the same group, just as if you were hanging out at someone's house or going out to a restaurant or bowling or whatever.

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killzone 2 would have actual soft shadows on the 360, and better modifier volumes

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better get off this forum, you nerd
killzone 2 would have actual soft shadows on the 360, and better modifier volumes

:bow :bow unified shader models :bow2 :bow2

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better get off this forum, you nerd

If I'm a nerd, wouldn't an online community be a perfect fit? Work on it.

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I'm online right now with real, actual homies and we're all talking and laughing and joking as if we were on the same couch playing Goldeneye or doing some Halo LAN

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True nerds (as if any of us aren't, to some degree) go online alone, in silence, with strangers.
 

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The movie party shit sounds awesome, really. Thats what sounds the coolest to me.

Indeed, I see future EB MST3K-esque Live meetups.  We can start with the worst movie of 2008, Speed Racer.
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The movie party shit sounds awesome, really. Thats what sounds the coolest to me.

Indeed, I see future EB MST3K-esque Live meetups.  We can start with the worst movie of 2008, Speed Racer.

Yeah I dont understand why people are like 'ew nerd' to this.
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The movie party shit sounds awesome, really. Thats what sounds the coolest to me.

Indeed, I see future EB MST3K-esque Live meetups.  We can start with the worst movie of 2008, Speed Racer.

Yeah I dont understand why people are like 'ew nerd' to this.

Well, if it wasn't "ew nerd" before...

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I miss old-Sonystillacontender Duckman2000. Where did he go?
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Well, it's not tomorrow yet damn it

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Yeah, after today's Final Fantasy debacle I'm not even going to start the PS3 defense force engines up, except to say that I'll probably be playing it STILL on PS3, because I know it will work, unlike the 360, which has red-ringed three times.
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I may be totally wrong here, but I do think MS was going to  introduce the xaggle,til the  wii 1:1 anouncement, and put the kabosh on the presentation which provided the mid show lulz but MS still had the ace in their pocket with the ffxiii announcement. I still can't wait for Sony's presentation as they may have an ace or 2. But this once staunch sfag now has no reason not to buy a 360 soon. The dashboard updates are really smart and cool and interest me a lot more than the FF announcement. I've never played one anyway.



 I could easily take my 60GB PS3 and 15 disc games to trade in tomorrow for a 360 and some games but I think that would be foolish. However, MS has shown to me that they are at least trying to win. And that is a selling point to me.
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Actually I wanted to get one for Fable 2 as posted a couple of weeks ago, but this strong showing is putting the wheels in motion faster.
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Yeah, after today's Final Fantasy debacle I'm not even going to start the PS3 defense force engines up, except to say that I'll probably be playing it STILL on PS3, because I know it will work, unlike the 360, which has red-ringed three times.

The Final Fantasy debacle doesn't concern me at all. It should probably concern Sony, but my interest is squarely in what Sony's developers are cooking up. I once said that I'd ditch the system if Sucker Punch or Insomniac were ditched, and that's perfectly true. It's a good system, but it's worth nothing without the games from specifically those two developers. Still, I'll have to look into actually buying another 360 this Fall, I just hope the version out then is a very reliable one. I always knew that I'd play Gears 2 and Fable 2, but now the UI seems to become a lot less lame too.
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RED RING DEFENSE! INITIATE!
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i'm not sure the ps3 could do gears of war 2 with the same level of visual fidelity :bow2

shame i don't like the gears franchise :'(

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yeah gears = boring imo
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Yeah, after today's Final Fantasy debacle I'm not even going to start the PS3 defense force engines up, except to say that I'll probably be playing it STILL on PS3, because I know it will work, unlike the 360, which has red-ringed three times.

The Final Fantasy debacle doesn't concern me at all. It should probably concern Sony, but my interest is squarely in what Sony's developers are cooking up. I once said that I'd ditch the system if Sucker Punch or Insomniac were ditched, and that's perfectly true. It's a good system, but it's worth nothing without the games from specifically those two developers. Still, I'll have to look into actually buying another 360 this Fall, I just hope the version out then is a very reliable one. I always knew that I'd play Gears 2 and Fable 2, but now the UI seems to become a lot less lame too.


Thisi goes for me too. I'm not sold on the falcon boards anymore. Hopefully the 60gb version will bring the newer rev.
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Get me a 60 gig'er at $299 with new internals, I may bite this year.

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The movie party shit sounds awesome, really. Thats what sounds the coolest to me.

Indeed, I see future EB MST3K-esque Live meetups.  We can start with the worst movie of 2008, Speed Racer.

Yeah I dont understand why people are like 'ew nerd' to this.
he made a MST3K reference and you reply with "how is this possibly nerdy?!" :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

and also, speed racer is one of the best movies of 2008. 

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MST3k isnt nerdy, YOURE NERDY! YOU GUYS ARE FUKERS! FUK! *cries like a sonyfan&
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Yeah, after today's Final Fantasy debacle I'm not even going to start the PS3 defense force engines up, except to say that I'll probably be playing it STILL on PS3, because I know it will work, unlike the 360, which has red-ringed three times.

The Final Fantasy debacle doesn't concern me at all. It should probably concern Sony, but my interest is squarely in what Sony's developers are cooking up. I once said that I'd ditch the system if Sucker Punch or Insomniac were ditched, and that's perfectly true. It's a good system, but it's worth nothing without the games from specifically those two developers. Still, I'll have to look into actually buying another 360 this Fall, I just hope the version out then is a very reliable one. I always knew that I'd play Gears 2 and Fable 2, but now the UI seems to become a lot less lame too.


What's so special about Insomniac's games? 

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Yeah, after today's Final Fantasy debacle I'm not even going to start the PS3 defense force engines up, except to say that I'll probably be playing it STILL on PS3, because I know it will work, unlike the 360, which has red-ringed three times.

What's so special about Insomniac's games? 

Umm..... they are fun and know the hardware. ::)
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i'm not sure the ps3 could do gears of war 2 with the same level of visual fidelity :bow2
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Hardware, maybe.  Fun, no.  

R&C on the PS3 is the same old game that they've already made 5 times.  

And Resistance?  :lol

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^^subjective, buddy

Resistance is good, if unspectacular fun

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Resistance 1 is great for a console shooter.  I have always been a fan of the Ratchet series, so I don't need to get into that there.  Even as a big PC gamer who things most console shooters are about an automatic 6 or 7 compared to the PC pumping out 10 shooters, Resistance 2 sounds amazing.

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I'd totally get a Netflix account for doing MST3k sessions, but remember it's just SD content... there isnt any HD streaming that I'm aware of
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Evilbore Watches would be a great idea, especially if we could capture the audio
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Resistance 1 is great for a console shooter.  I have always been a fan of the Ratchet series, so I don't need to get into that there.  Even as a big PC gamer who things most console shooters are about an automatic 6 or 7 compared to the PC pumping out 10 shooters, Resistance 2 sounds amazing.
i'm interested in seeing resistance 2's co-op campaign and multiplayer.  PC games like swat 4 and raven shield are a lot of fun with their team co-op.  and i'm always interested in a game that attempts to do large scale multiplayer in a new way.  

but resistance 1 was basically ps3's halo--for better and for worse.  


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I NEED NEW HD
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MGS4 would be much more enjoyable if each I just switch discs between each Act instead of doing 3 min installs. 

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Yeah, after today's Final Fantasy debacle I'm not even going to start the PS3 defense force engines up, except to say that I'll probably be playing it STILL on PS3, because I know it will work, unlike the 360, which has red-ringed three times.

The Final Fantasy debacle doesn't concern me at all. It should probably concern Sony, but my interest is squarely in what Sony's developers are cooking up. I once said that I'd ditch the system if Sucker Punch or Insomniac were ditched, and that's perfectly true. It's a good system, but it's worth nothing without the games from specifically those two developers. Still, I'll have to look into actually buying another 360 this Fall, I just hope the version out then is a very reliable one. I always knew that I'd play Gears 2 and Fable 2, but now the UI seems to become a lot less lame too.


What's so special about Insomniac's games? 

They are brilliantly entertaining. Some more so than others, but at worst, an Insomniac game is going to be merely "good."

I'm hoping they will hit greatness with Resistance 2. Resistance was a very competent, well made shooter, but it was more of a Best Of FPS deal than a classic in its own right. Resistance 2 sounds like a good step up, in quite a few ways. And knowing that it will be polished is a good thing.

Not sure why I bother writing a serious response to one of your posts though.

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Yeah, after today's Final Fantasy debacle I'm not even going to start the PS3 defense force engines up, except to say that I'll probably be playing it STILL on PS3, because I know it will work, unlike the 360, which has red-ringed three times.

The Final Fantasy debacle doesn't concern me at all. It should probably concern Sony, but my interest is squarely in what Sony's developers are cooking up. I once said that I'd ditch the system if Sucker Punch or Insomniac were ditched, and that's perfectly true. It's a good system, but it's worth nothing without the games from specifically those two developers. Still, I'll have to look into actually buying another 360 this Fall, I just hope the version out then is a very reliable one. I always knew that I'd play Gears 2 and Fable 2, but now the UI seems to become a lot less lame too.


What's so special about Insomniac's games? 

They are brilliantly entertaining. Some more so than others, but at worst, an Insomniac game is going to be merely "good."

I'm hoping they will hit greatness with Resistance 2. Resistance was a very competent, well made shooter, but it was more of a Best Of FPS deal than a classic in its own right. Resistance 2 sounds like a good step up, in quite a few ways. And knowing that it will be polished is a good thing.

Not sure why I bother writing a serious response to one of your posts though.

Despite my antagonism towards Sfags, I'm far less biased than you'll ever be.  Have you ever seen me shill 360 exclusives or shit on PS3 games for no apparent reason?   

I'm just not sure why someone with supposedly very high standards would care for Insomniac's very average games. 
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The only thing PS3 fans hate more than XBox fans are multiplatform ppl who still prefer 360

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too human demo was great. from the nicely directed cutscenes with okay animation to the great dialog from npcs as you're pwning monsters to the wonderful and far from clunky melee combat. everything came together fairly nice.

but the absence of alan wake is a clear indication that msft is leaving the industry sometime soon.