Author Topic: The Final Fantasy IV DS thread (Read 18856 times)

Candyflip · « **Reply #60 on:** July 24, 2008, 05:30:50 AM »

I really think the FF3 remake was a bit harder than this. I remember consistently being hit for 1/3 and 1/4 of my health. I have yet to grind so far and I haven't had any full party deaths yet. Then again, that might be because I heal to full after every battle though. I'm only at Mt. Ordeals so far, so maybe it does get harder. It's definitely not a cakewalk though. Getting hit with Toad over and over and over and over and over and over again in the cave to the octo-whatever with Tellah was pretty annoying.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #61 on:** July 24, 2008, 08:42:44 AM »

I am alright with the game being challenging, but some stuff is just cheap. When I first got Rydia she was a full 3 levels lower than Cecil and had very few hitpoints. Well, how about some grinding? That would be fine and fucking dandy but her defense and HP are so low that she dies if attacked more than once in a battle. I am fine with a little grinding and I even enjoyed the FF3 remake on DS, which required extensive grinding, but at least make it fucking possible. Stupid design imo.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #62 on:** July 24, 2008, 11:13:02 AM »

Just keep battling until a boss or a situation where Cecil can ultrafuck the enemies. Rydia will start to gain some levels.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #63 on:** July 24, 2008, 11:56:20 AM »

That's what I did. But now I just got Edward and it's the same deal, except he is even comparatively lower than when I got Rydia. At least now there are 3 party members instead of just 2.

Candyflip · « **Reply #64 on:** July 24, 2008, 12:19:27 PM »

All I ever really do with Edward is his little regen thing.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #65 on:** July 24, 2008, 12:25:22 PM »

I've actually put a few enemies to sleep with his lullaby song, so he isn't completely useless. I just hate how the new characters that join your party are such a low level.

Himu · « **Reply #66 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:45:02 PM »

FF4 ds is entirely different. This game is fucking hard. There are enemies that will one hit kill you. Enemies petrify you RIGHT OUTSIDE OF BARON. At the Tower of Zot the difficulty really ramps up. On the original version, The Tower of Zot was easy as shit. Here, I fight Soldieresses that dish out 300-500 hp at my guys per hit, and I typically fight at least 3 of them at once. And those are just some of the random battles. There's a treasure chest with the Flame Sword in it, there's a fire dog in it, this fire dog casts a fire spell that can kill 3/4 party members except Cecil in one hit. There's another monster that's an ice variation of the same monster, it's not as powerful but just as deadly and it's NOT only included in a treasure chest, you fight it regularly here.

...

This is so awesome.

Quote from: Kestastrophe on July 24, 2008, 08:42:44 AM

I am alright with the game being challenging, but some stuff is just cheap. When I first got Rydia she was a full 3 levels lower than Cecil and had very few hitpoints. Well, how about some grinding? That would be fine and fucking dandy but her defense and HP are so low that she dies if attacked more than once in a battle. I am fine with a little grinding and I even enjoyed the FF3 remake on DS, which required extensive grinding, but at least make it fucking possible. Stupid design imo.

Go get Tellah at the cave. You'll have more backup, making leveling up Rydia easier and you can do it normally without having to grind.

Himu · « **Reply #67 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:46:47 PM »

Quote from: Kestastrophe on July 24, 2008, 12:25:22 PM

I've actually put a few enemies to sleep with his lullaby song, so he isn't completely useless. I just hate how the new characters that join your party are such a low level.

Edward's NEVER useless. His success rate for putting enemies to sleep or confusing them is ridiculous, they hit all enemies, AND they don't cost mp.

Also, some bosses are so much easier with Life Song or whatever it is.

Edward rocks. Haters suck my hairy balls.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #68 on:** July 24, 2008, 01:51:13 PM »

Will they do this for FFVI?

FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #69 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:03:42 PM »

Quote from: DJ_Tet on July 24, 2008, 01:51:13 PM

Will they do this for FFVI?

FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.

I don't see why not. Both FIII DS and IVDS are pretty popular in Japan, and it's logical for them to.

I don't know if they'll do one for FFV though. I'd like to see them do it.

demi · « **Reply #70 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:09:10 PM »

More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP

Candyflip · « **Reply #71 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:09:38 PM »

Quote from: DJ_Tet on July 24, 2008, 01:51:13 PM

FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.

Me too. I hope they do that. Even V would be pretty cool

Himu · « **Reply #72 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:11:02 PM »

Whew. I had to leave the Tower of Zot because I needed supplies. Time to go kick the Magus Sisters' asses.

Himu · « **Reply #73 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:11:32 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 24, 2008, 02:03:42 PM

Quote from: DJ_Tet on July 24, 2008, 01:51:13 PM
Will they do this for FFVI?

FFIII American is my favorite RPG, I much preferred it to FFII American.

I don't see why not. Both FIII DS and IVDS are pretty popular in Japan, and it's logical for them to.

I don't know if they'll do one for FFV though. I'd like to see them do it.

FFV is one of the most popular FF's in Japan. They'll do it.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #74 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:12:26 PM »

Quote from: demi on July 24, 2008, 02:09:10 PM

More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP

That looked shitty.

Himu · « **Reply #75 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:16:31 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 24, 2008, 02:12:26 PM

Quote from: demi on July 24, 2008, 02:09:10 PM
More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP

That looked shitty.

Er. FFI and II for psp are by far the best looking 2d FF's.

demi · « **Reply #76 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:17:30 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 24, 2008, 02:12:26 PM

Quote from: demi on July 24, 2008, 02:09:10 PM
More like they shouldnt, and instead make a high res remake like FF1 & 2 like PSP

That looked shitty.

Hey Wiitard, I will be the judge of what looks shitty

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #77 on:** July 24, 2008, 02:24:57 PM »

Okay well the enemies look cool, but I'm a little disgusted by the design of your party.

DJ_Tet · « **Reply #78 on:** July 24, 2008, 03:31:00 PM »

I've never played FFV, is it worth going back to now?

Positive Touch · « **Reply #79 on:** July 24, 2008, 03:35:30 PM »

it's definitely dated, but you can still have fun with it. it uses the job system like FF3 and FFX-2, and has a fair amount of challenge. everything outside of the battle system is pretty shit tho.

Himu · « **Reply #80 on:** July 24, 2008, 03:59:03 PM »

Quote from: DJ_Tet on July 24, 2008, 03:31:00 PM

I've never played FFV, is it worth going back to now?

Of course. Check out the Advance version.

tiesto · « **Reply #81 on:** July 24, 2008, 04:26:34 PM »

Quote from: DJ_Tet on July 24, 2008, 03:31:00 PM

I've never played FFV, is it worth going back to now?

Hell yeah, it's the best one.

Rman · « **Reply #82 on:** July 24, 2008, 06:04:46 PM »

The fonts on the PSP games are HORRENDOUS.
/fontsnob

Himu · « **Reply #83 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:39:01 PM »

I fucking hate the Golbez fight in this version.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #84 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:45:51 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 24, 2008, 02:24:57 PM

Okay well the enemies look cool, but I'm a little disgusted by the design of your party.

yeah because this looks so much better

Crushed · « **Reply #85 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:54:16 PM »

why did you blow up that picture using bicubic interpolation to almost three times its normal size

The Sceneman · « **Reply #86 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:54:45 PM »

I didnt do shit, see the ign watermark?

Crushed · « **Reply #87 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:56:13 PM »

oh

well then it appears ign has been following the 1up school of screenshots

The Sceneman · « **Reply #88 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:57:07 PM »

yeah I was looking for a really bad screenshot to enhance my ds troll

Crushed · « **Reply #89 on:** July 24, 2008, 07:57:49 PM »

perfectly understandable then, carry on

The Sceneman · « **Reply #90 on:** July 24, 2008, 08:00:10 PM »

DS 3d

sub N64 shit

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Etrian Odyssey still rules though

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MoxManiac · « **Reply #91 on:** July 24, 2008, 08:24:04 PM »

Is demi hating on FFIV DS because of the shitty 3D graphics? If so, that's understandable.

But if he's shitting on it because of the increased difficulty, which is AWESOME, then demi is a fagatron deluxe!

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #92 on:** July 24, 2008, 08:24:16 PM »

God damnit. This game is ridiculously hard to the point I'm not even enjoying it anymore. Every battle can wipe your party out and gil is hard as hell to come by....ugh. Someone tell me there's some code that I can enter that'll set the difficulty level to "normal" instead of the otaku rpg god level it's currently at.

I'm with demi on this one.

Himu · « **Reply #93 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:37:24 PM »

ds 3d ain't bad.

What makes up for ds 3d, particularly with FFIV ds, is the quality of the animations. The animations, especially in the cutscenes, are really really good.

Jabberwocky · « **Reply #94 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:50:44 PM »

Wow.

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I just got to the cutscene where Anna dies. It was always one of my most favorite scenes in the entire game, but now that it's fully voiced and choreographed, it's even more emotional. I'm not sure whether to feel sorry for Edward or call him a pussy. One one hand, his mom and dad died, and his lover died. On the other, he gets owned by a little girl and Cecil bitchslaps him. Also, Tellah is pretty badass in this scene.

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TVC15 · « **Reply #95 on:** July 24, 2008, 09:59:37 PM »

Wow, Square is so terrible these days that they can't even manage to make an adequate remake of their best game.

Crushed · « **Reply #96 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:00:44 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 24, 2008, 09:59:37 PM

Wow, Square is so terrible these days that they can't even manage to make an adequate remake of their best game.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_Software

Jabberwocky · « **Reply #97 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:02:12 PM »

by the way,

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 22, 2008, 06:39:41 AM

Also, the word is that the US version has cut some of the cutscenes due to Square wanting to fit English/French/Spanish/etc on one cart to speed up international release, but not wanting to pay up for increasing the size of the cart.

Was this ever confirmed/denied? Would be a tragedy if true.

demi · « **Reply #98 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:04:03 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on July 24, 2008, 09:59:37 PM

Wow, Square is so terrible these days that they can't even manage to make an adequate remake of their best game.

It's like the ultimate fucking knife in the back...

At least they made The World Ends With You... everyone should go replay that.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #99 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:33:22 PM »

Oh I forgot about TWEWY... might have to be my next DS game once I beat Etrian 2

y2kev · « **Reply #100 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:35:35 PM »

The random battle difficulty is a bit off, but the boss battles are not too tough if you go in with the right strategy. I'm surprised at how things I thought impossible work when you use a cocktail of buffs and debuffs and time things well.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #101 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:43:43 PM »

Wait, why is this a bad remake?

I don't understand.

MCD · « **Reply #102 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:44:22 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 24, 2008, 10:43:43 PM

Wait, why is this a bad remake?

I don't understand.

and you will never understand.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #103 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:44:51 PM »

nfags pwned, go stick your copy of Blast Corps up your ass

Jabberwocky · « **Reply #104 on:** July 24, 2008, 10:56:22 PM »

can someone please answer my question :'(

Hitler Stole My Potato · « **Reply #105 on:** July 24, 2008, 11:15:31 PM »

Quote from: y2kev on July 24, 2008, 10:35:35 PM

The random battle difficulty is a bit off, but the boss battles are not too tough if you go in with the right strategy. I'm surprised at how things I thought impossible work when you use a cocktail of buffs and debuffs and time things well.

Still, they should've given us a difficulty option. I just want to play the game normally and not at some fucktard crazy hard setting. I don't have the patience anymore for this kind of shit.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #106 on:** July 25, 2008, 07:26:04 AM »

Good God, I hate the enemies that can singlehandedly wipe out your party in one hit. I just came to the enemy that King Baron turns into and he wiped out 3 of my party members before I could even select an action. I know some of you like difficult games, and I personally don't have a problem with them, but any game that requires you to die in order to develop a decent strategy is bad design, imo.

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #107 on:** July 25, 2008, 09:01:35 AM »

I have just confirmed how shitty the difficulty in this game is. I spent the last hour grinding my party up 3-5 levels to face that fucker Cagnazzo again. Not only that, but I make sure to cast Protect and Shell in the first 2 turns with Porom. The same bullshit happens again the first time I faced him. He spams tsunami and wipes out my entire party. It wouldn't be as bad if he had a cool down for that, but fuck no, he can cast it back to back almost immediately.

Himu · « **Reply #108 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:44:13 AM »

lmao @ the weaksauce pussy gamers complaining about this game

ahahahhahahahaha

Himu · « **Reply #109 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:45:36 AM »

Quote from: Nitro on July 24, 2008, 09:50:44 PM

Wow.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
I just got to the cutscene where Anna dies. It was always one of my most favorite scenes in the entire game, but now that it's fully voiced and choreographed, it's even more emotional. I'm not sure whether to feel sorry for Edward or call him a pussy. One one hand, his mom and dad died, and his lover died. On the other, he gets owned by a little girl and Cecil bitchslaps him. Also, Tellah is pretty badass in this scene.
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that's the only time edward is EVER a pussy though. and he shapes up within 30 seconds.

Himu · « **Reply #110 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:47:38 AM »

cast thunder on cagnazzo when he's getting ready to cast that tsunami spell.

Problem solved.

GilloD · « **Reply #111 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:52:10 AM »

How can you guys go ZOMG over EO2 and then shit on this? Espeically with EO2's useless classes and fucked up bugs.

I'm enjoying it so far. The 3D doesn't always work and I definitely miss the sprites, but one thing: The camera work in the scripted cinemas is pretty great. It feels very cinematic instead of the Kevin Smith-esque "Point the camera at the people who are talking and wait" school of direction. There are some pretty dynamic sequences.

It is fucking hard as hell. I barely have the $$ for Eyedrops and every fucking enemy in that first cave blinds Cecil in like .5 nanoseconds. F that. Also, Blind is upped to like 100% miss.

Himu · « **Reply #112 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:54:43 AM »

Quote from: GilloD on July 25, 2008, 11:52:10 AM

How can you guys go ZOMG over EO2 and then shit on this? Espeically with EO2's useless classes and fucked up bugs.

PUSSY GAMERS

AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

demi · « **Reply #113 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:55:52 AM »

I think it's the 2D art in EO2. Very classic. It just brings the love back. FF4 is just a big rape scene. The ruin of a classic. The end of an era. You don't want to get involved with that.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #114 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:58:34 AM »

I'd love to try this game out, but the difficulty seems to be like EO2. I just don't have time for that kind of game.

Is the GBA version easier?

demi · « **Reply #115 on:** July 25, 2008, 11:59:23 AM »

The GBA version is definitely the one to get.

GilloD · « **Reply #116 on:** July 25, 2008, 12:00:25 PM »

Quote from: demi on July 25, 2008, 11:55:52 AM

I think it's the 2D art in EO2. Very classic. It just brings the love back. FF4 is just a big rape scene. The ruin of a classic. The end of an era. You don't want to get involved with that.

Classic? It's DS 3D with Animu under-age LOLI party members. The only classic thing is the gameplay.

I understand what you mean, I miss the sprites, but I don't think it's game endingly awful.

demi · « **Reply #117 on:** July 25, 2008, 12:01:37 PM »

You forgot the enemies, and the music. Both of which are ugly in FF4.

Final Fantasy is looking to be a lost cause... DQ4 will show you the love, GilloD. I'd hate for you to be wrong twice. FFTA and now this? Poor guy.

Himu · « **Reply #118 on:** July 25, 2008, 12:04:38 PM »

FFIV ds' enemies ARE THE EXACT SAME except they've been transitioned into 3d.

GilloD · « **Reply #119 on:** July 25, 2008, 12:52:10 PM »

Quote from: demi on July 25, 2008, 12:01:37 PM

You forgot the enemies, and the music. Both of which are ugly in FF4.

Final Fantasy is looking to be a lost cause... DQ4 will show you the love, GilloD. I'd hate for you to be wrong twice. FFTA and now this? Poor guy.

I wore out FFTA pretty fast. I've never seen a game with such a distinguished mentally-challenged progress curve.

I'm so psyched for the DQ remakes I can't believe it. Especially for DQ5, but I never got to play DQ4.

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