RNC Thread of EXCITED BASES!, hockey moms and wild eyed white folk.

[Fresh Prince]

I felt that way before Palin was nominated for VP, I think misogyny on behalf of white blue collar males will pull through.

[The Fake Shemp]

Poor Obama.

If you thought the Hillary supporters were bad when her campaign ended, I can't imagine what the Democrats will do when McCain wins.

[Brehvolution]

 
Apparently, my wife's parents were going to vote for MCain because of the SP nomination. Then I told them of her Alaska seceding group and they are back on the Obama train.   ..

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Actually, they don't know what to think now. But at least they are back in black.

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[Human Snorenado]

McCain has this in the bag, Triumph.  I'm not sure where this confidence is coming from.  Obama had a SMALL and diminishing bump from his convention, and I'm positive that all those white folks with one black friend who told the phone pollster that they will vote Obama will cling to their closet racist ways come Election Day.

Federwang, you're an out of touch, retail working, lapsed Republican Jew.  When I want to know what's new for the DS I haven't bothered to play with since I beat EO2, I'll ask your opinion.  In the meantime, I'll remind you that you thought Hillary would be the nominee in like March.  Shaddup.

[Van Cruncheon]

thankfully, willco is so consistently wrong in his political predictions that this bolsters my faith

[Human Snorenado]

thankfully, willco is so consistently wrong in his political predictions that this bolsters my faith

He and Maurice should form a non-thinking tank.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Obama's saving grace really is getting into as many televised debates with McCain as possible.  That and a lot of lower class and working class voters come out in force for Obama.  These guys care more about making sure they can get what they need rather than the VP's teenage daughter.

Palin's numerous flaws only make her more endearing to soccer moms.  The soccer moms can remember when they were in some radical organization at college getting their Mrs. degree in Sociology or Journalism or some other throwaway LAS degree.  So they will understand Palin's flirtation with AKIP.  Bristol's pregnancy reminded them of the time that they banged the starting Tight End and had that pregnancy scare.  That she is going to have the kid and the father will marry her is a happier ending to that time whn that bastard OLB who humped and dumped her.  If you think soccer moms and their ilk don't feel that way, you have lost touch with what they want.

Palin is so imperfect that she embodies the numerous fuckups that a lot of middle class suburbanite women went through.  Palin can relate.  That is why Palin will get their vote.

[The Fake Shemp]

Federwang, you're an out of touch, retail working, lapsed Republican Jew.  When I want to know what's new for the DS I haven't bothered to play with since I beat EO2, I'll ask your opinion.  In the meantime, I'll remind you that you thought Hillary would be the nominee in like March.  Shaddup.

I'd like to note the following:

Everyone thought Hillary still had it in the bag back then and I wasn't even rooting for her!

I'm not voting for the Republican ticket.

Last, but not least, if you honestly believed that, you wouldn't be so defensive.  Your rebuttal tells me what you're really hiding - fear.  Fear that you will live under four more years of a Republican President.  Fear that our Vice President will be hot enough to masturbate to.  Fear that YOU will be drafted to fight in WORLD WAR 2.5!

Afraid, you are.

[Van Cruncheon]

thankfully, willco is so consistently wrong in his political predictions that this bolsters my faith

He and Maurice should form a non-thinking tank.

they should form the CONTRARIAN PARTY of the united states, with their stated platform of "whatever i think the elitists like, i hate, for the greater good of witless trolling and juvenile inculpability"

or "smirking opposition to elitist idealism is an adequate substitute for common sense"

[Human Snorenado]

Federwang, you're an out of touch, retail working, lapsed Republican Jew.  When I want to know what's new for the DS I haven't bothered to play with since I beat EO2, I'll ask your opinion.  In the meantime, I'll remind you that you thought Hillary would be the nominee in like March.  Shaddup.

I'd like to note the following:

Everyone thought Hillary still had it in the bag back then and I wasn't even rooting for her!

I'm not voting for the Republican ticket.

Last, but not least, if you honestly believed that, you wouldn't be so defensive.  Your rebuttal tells me what you're really hiding - fear.  Fear that you will live under four more years of a Republican President.  Fear that our Vice President will be hot enough to masturbate to.  Fear that YOU will be drafted to fight in WORLD WAR 2.5!

Afraid, you are.

Dude, I've never been so ecstatic with the state of politics in America IN MY LIFE.  This is the beginning of the end of the Republican party as a meaningful national party.  In ten years they will be as meaningful as the Whigs.

[The Fake Shemp]

Eh, it's just a transition period. Saying the party is gone is ridiculous.  It's the end of the neo-cons, not the end of the GOP.

[Fresh Prince]

Really it comes to white, blue collar men vs white, wives of white collar men.

[Van Cruncheon]

the neo-cons killed the classic cons. with their passing, you are left with the PARTY OF HUCK AND FOC. it might as well be dead.

[The Fake Shemp]

 

There will always be a conservative demographic in America and the Republicans, in whatever iteration, will always be there to help them hold us back!

It's like PROFESSOR X and MAGNETO.  Except Magneto is a Mormon and has guns and shit.

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And just like Professor X, the Democrats have no spine!

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[Beardo]

Apparently, my wife's parents were going to vote for MCain because of the SP nomination. Then I told them of her Alaska seceding group and they are back on the Obama train.   ..

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Actually, they don't know what to think now. But at least they are back in black.

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The alaska seceding accusations has been recalled by the NY times. You just made yourself look like a dumb ass in front of the in laws.

[Beardo]

Dude, I've never been so ecstatic with the state of politics in America IN MY LIFE.  This is the beginning of the end of the Republican party as a meaningful national party.  In ten years they will be as meaningful as the Whigs.

You're living in liberal La La land my friend.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Sadly Beardo's right. Until 2050 or so there will always be a political party for the rich white people and country bumpkins. Oh and the greedy, can't forget them..

[MrAngryFace]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/obama-to-appear-on-fox-on-thursday-night/ -- haha this will be interesting, regardless of who you wanna vote for

[Beardo]

Sadly Beardo's right. Until 2050 or so there will always be a political party for the rich white people and country bumpkins. Oh and the greedy, can't forget them..

You guys just dont get it and never will. Thats why you cant win elections and that is why you wont win in november.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Sadly Beardo's right. Until 2050 or so there will always be a political party for the rich white people and country bumpkins. Oh and the greedy, can't forget them..

You guys just dont get it and never will. Thats why you cant win elections and that is why you wont win in november.

Either that or it could just be because the rich white people, the country bumpkins and the greedy hold all the power right now. I'm just sayin' Occams razor and all that.

[Beardo]

Politics isnt simple though you're summing up 50% of the country in what comes across as whiney. Oh well cry more in november.

[Positive Touch]

Apparently, my wife's parents were going to vote for MCain because of the SP nomination. Then I told them of her Alaska seceding group and they are back on the Obama train.   ..

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Actually, they don't know what to think now. But at least they are back in black.

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The alaska seceding accusations has been recalled by the NY times. You just made yourself look like a dumb ass in front of the in laws.

link or stfu

it's already been revealed that her husband was registered as a memeber from 1995-2002.

[Beardo]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/

The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s succession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.

A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990’s.

The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party’s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican.

On Tuesday night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify. The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican.

After checking the party’s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party. She said Ms. Palin attended the party’s 1994 and 2006 conventions and provided a video-taped address as governor to the 2008 convention.

Looks like the NYT needs to do some better vetting themselves. 

[drozmight]

America's still pretty racist, it's just out of fashion.  I think the only reason Obama won most of the caucuses was that most people there didn't want their neighbors to think they are racist.  So I bet when they get into their private polling booth and nobody's looking they'll fill in a bubble for the white man.  Later when people ask who they voted for, they'll say Obama.



Then again I'm feeling really cynical today.

[Mandark]

Sadly Beardo's right. Until 2050 or so there will always be a political party for the rich white people and country bumpkins. Oh and the greedy, can't forget them..

You guys just dont get it and never will. Thats why you cant win elections and that is why you wont win in november.

What what in the 2006 butt?

[MrAngryFace]

America's still pretty racist, it's just out of fashion.  I think the only reason Obama won most of the caucuses was that most people there didn't want their neighbors to think they are racist.  So I bet when they get into their private polling booth and nobody's looking they'll fill in a bubble for the white man.  Later when people ask who they voted for, they'll say Obama.



Then again I'm feeling really cynical today.

You have to be pretty racist or just 'scared of the black man' to make that kinda choice tho.

[Beardo]

Sadly Beardo's right. Until 2050 or so there will always be a political party for the rich white people and country bumpkins. Oh and the greedy, can't forget them..

You guys just dont get it and never will. Thats why you cant win elections and that is why you wont win in november.

What what in the 2006 butt?

You do have a good point. Do I need to point to the approval ratings of the current congress?  Lower than even the president and I do admit that is a feat itself.

Apparently, my wife's parents were going to vote for MCain because of the SP nomination. Then I told them of her Alaska seceding group and they are back on the Obama train.  ..

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Actually, they don't know what to think now. But at least they are back in black.

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The alaska seceding accusations has been recalled by the NY times. You just made yourself look like a dumb ass in front of the in laws.

link or stfu

it's already been revealed that her husband was registered as a memeber from 1995-2002.

Tell us what happens when your in laws find out you lied to them. Should be some interesting drama.

[Mandark]

Gawd, treating Congressional approval ratings as if they were approval ratings of the Democratic agenda is THE talking point of the season for conservatives in denial.  A lot of that disapproval comes from lefties like me who don't like seeing the current majority stymied.

Check the likely Senate pickups and the generic Dem vs. Republican ballot.

[Beardo]

A lot of that disapproval comes from lefties like me who don't like seeing the current majority stymied.

Tell your congressman to grow a pair if thats even possible.

[MrAngryFace]

Beardo and his constructive criticism

[Mandark]

Beardo:  Already tossed his ass out in the primaries.  My point is that the low approval rating of Congress doesn't mean Democrats are less popular than Republicans.  You think the GOP is going to pick up seats come November?

America's still pretty racist, it's just out of fashion.  I think the only reason Obama won most of the caucuses was that most people there didn't want their neighbors to think they are racist.  So I bet when they get into their private polling booth and nobody's looking they'll fill in a bubble for the white man.  Later when people ask who they voted for, they'll say Obama.



Then again I'm feeling really cynical today.

You have to be pretty racist or just 'scared of the black man' to make that kinda choice tho.

They've actually got a term for that sort of thing: the Bradley Effect.  I saw a study that concluded this was a real factor during the 80's and early 90's but not anymore.

I don't think that people are secretly going to vote against Obama when they support him publicly but I do think race will be a factor.  Out of Democrats who say they're undecided or voting for McCain, over 40% think Obama will "do too much to help black people".

[Fresh Prince]

You guys just dont get it and never will. Thats why you cant win elections and that is why you wont win in november.

Tell us Beardo. What is it? Conservative fiscal policy? Social conservatism? Fighting the war on terror?

[ShogunOfFear]

Watched the convention with an open mind.  I was surprised Fred Thompson gave the best speech of the night, but did anyone notice the cave man grunts he did in between words?  haha good stuff. 

WOW at Lieberman I didn't expect him to rip into Obama, if McCain looses his career is over.

LOL at Clinton getting an applause at a republican convention.

I'm still surprised the liberal media pundits are so terrified of Palin though it kind of reminds me of when Kerry went after Cheney, meanwhile Bush smiled his way to the white house.
And lol at Obama people knocking her on experience, if she isn't qualified to be VP then he certainly isn't qualified to be president.  Neither one of them have a lot of experience and I don't think that argument can be used by either side now.  Seems reform/change has become the new thing.  My prediction for the debates...

Obama:  Change, Washington is broken, Change!  McCain = Bush, Bush I said!

McCain:  Reform, my friends reform, my friends Obama voted present.

[siamesedreamer]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/

The chairwoman of an Alaskan political party that advocates a vote on the state’s succession from the union said Tuesday that she had been mistaken when she said Gov. Sarah Palin was a member of the group.

A front-page story in The New York Times on Tuesday and articles in other news media reported that Ms. Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party for two years in the 1990’s.

The information in the Times article was based on a statement issued Monday night by Lynette Clark, the party’s chairwoman, who said that Ms. Palin joined the party in 1994 and in 1996 changed her registration to Republican.

On Tuesday night, Ms. Clark said that her initial statement was incorrect and had been based on erroneous information provided by another member of the party whom she declined to identify. The McCain campaign also disputed the Times report, saying that Ms. Palin had been registered consistently as a Republican.

After checking the party’s archives, Ms. Clark said that she could find no documentation that Governor Palin had been a member of the party. She said Ms. Palin attended the party’s 1994 and 2006 conventions and provided a video-taped address as governor to the 2008 convention.

Looks like the NYT needs to do some better vetting themselves. 

This is a typical NYT hatchett job. The retraction doesn't matter. They got it out into the general lexicon of the election and that was their only objective.

[TakingBackSunday]

And lol at Obama people knocking her on experience, if she isn't qualified to be VP then he certainly isn't qualified to be president.

I don't buy that for a second.  I mean, in the legit politics of it all, the argument can't be made, but for us talking here, it's pretty ridiculous.  Obama's been a politician since the early-mid 90s, in a state government (Illinois, which was in fucked situations before he arrived) AND national government.  Palin has been a PTA member, a mayor of some 9000 people, and the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA, one of the most "that's apart of our country?" states in the nation.  My high school principal is more experienced than her, going by what the mindset these Republicans have.  She would get nearly 1000 new students each year.  In fact, I'd rather see her on the ticket than this pyscho.

[siamesedreamer]

Oh and nevermind the fact that the NYT is using their blog to retract a frontpage story.

smh

[ShogunOfFear]

The NYT is one of the biggest jokes in all of news.  The fact anyone uses it as a source in any debate is 

[TakingBackSunday]

That damage is done though.  People are already latching onto that little stretch of the facts and I think she's done for.

[Human Snorenado]

Wow.  Of all the flapping heads on either side of the aisle, Peggy Noonan is the only one to grasp what I've been pointing out- riling up the base is not a winning strategy for the Republicans in this election.

[Tundra]

Slightly OT, but why in gods name would Alaska like to be apart from the rest of the US?

[Human Snorenado]

Slightly OT, but why in gods name would Alaska like to be apart from the rest of the US?

If they could control all of their natural resources, they'd be pretty well off.  Think of all the pointless bridges they could buy!

[ShogunOfFear]

And lol at Obama people knocking her on experience, if she isn't qualified to be VP then he certainly isn't qualified to be president.

I don't buy that for a second.  I mean, in the legit politics of it all, the argument can't be made, but for us talking here, it's pretty ridiculous.  Obama's been a politician since the early-mid 90s, in a state government (Illinois, which was in fucked situations before he arrived) AND national government.  Palin has been a PTA member, a mayor of some 9000 people, and the GOVERNOR OF ALASKA, one of the most "that's apart of our country?" states in the nation.  My high school principal is more experienced than her, going by what the mindset these Republicans have.  She would get nearly 1000 new students each year.  In fact, I'd rather see her on the ticket than this pyscho.

You can't honestly believe that a senator has more executive experience than a governor.  The fact that you compare a high school principal to running a state is    BTW was that sarcasm?

[TakingBackSunday]

Partly sarcasm, yeah.

It doesn't matter if she's a governor, she's governor of fucking Alaska.  And a controversial one at that.

[GilloD]

The NYT is one of the biggest jokes in all of news.  The fact anyone uses it as a source in any debate is 

You are quickly becoming this thread's Wolf Pack

[Human Snorenado]

So, what we all knew has now been acknowledged:  Mayor McMooseburger wasn't vetted until the day before McCain picked her.  If you want to call it "vetting".

[Eric P]

most of my problems with the current republican party and john mccain's candidacy can be summed up with their pick of palin.  she tried to have` a librarian ban books from a public library on the basis that people who voted for her found the language offensive.  when the librarian didn't comply, Palin tried to have her fired.

and that's "just" a fucking librarian she tried to push around.  

I'm sorry but after the blatant illegal politicization of all kinds of federal services in the past 8 years, the last thing I want is someone who thinks she wields this kind of power anywhere near public office.

[Eric P]

So, what we all knew has now been acknowledged:  Mayor McMooseburger wasn't vetted until the day before McCain picked her.  If you want to call it "vetting".

with that bloom lighting they look next gen

[MrAngryFace]

A Republicans ability to rally behind someone or something so clearly wrong always amazes me.

"Forget all that other corruption stuff! She was Gov for a whole year and a half and talked about fighting corruption! Was Obama Gov? NO! TRUTH BOMB! What?! I said NEVERMIND the corruption and her dancing with snakes at church!"


"BIDEN?! SHES GOT MORE EXPERIENCE THAN THAT HACK! WHILE HE WAS INVOLVED IN SEVERAL INTERNATIONAL SITUATIONS HAVE YOU FUCKING SEEEEEN HOW CLOSE ALASkA IS TO RUSSIA?! IF SHIT WENT DOWN THERE PALIN WOULD HAVE BEEN THE FRONT LINE OF NEGOTATIONS TO HELP PUTIN SAVE ON GAS!"

[MrAngryFace]

NO SHE HAZ MORE EXPERIENCE AND IS BETTAR CHOICE GLASS CEILING RIP 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Human Snorenado]

FA- yeah, I'm waiting on the media to pick up on stuff like that and the book banning, which in my opinion shows she's not capable of being VP for a nation as diverse as this one.  BUT SHE EXCITES THE BASE, WITH HER POLITICALLY MOTIVATED FIRINGS AND BOOK BANNINGS!  SIEG HEIL!  SIEG HEIL!

[MrAngryFace]

I like how the GOP base can get excited about a (completely horrible) vp candidate, but when LIBRULS DO it to a much more qualified one WE R  SAYIN CANDIDATE LIKE GOD

[Human Snorenado]

What's more amazing to me is how if they say something enough, it becomes true.  MAVERICK REFORMER!  MAVERICK REFORMER!

Also, today's breaking story is that in 2007 as Gov. she fired the entire State Agriculture and Conservation Board and replaced 'em with her cronies, ostensibly to save a state run dairy.  Of course, in two months the dairy folded and ended up costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Roughly $20 million worth of dairy equipment was sold off at a steep discount to a Palin crony who now, remarkably, runs a dairy that he started with the help of a Ted Steven's earmark.

But yeah, she's gonna go in and clean up Washington.  MAVERICK REFORMER!

[Kestastrophe]

Any semblance of a moderate McCain campaign is now gone. I would fornicate with her and her daughter though

[Human Snorenado]

What's more amazing to me is how if they say something enough, it becomes true.  MAVERICK REFORMER!  MAVERICK REFORMER!

Also, today's breaking story is that in 2007 as Gov. she fired the entire State Agriculture and Conservation Board and replaced 'em with her cronies, ostensibly to save a state run dairy.  Of course, in two months the dairy folded and ended up costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.  Roughly $20 million worth of dairy equipment was sold off at a steep discount to a Palin crony who now, remarkably, runs a dairy that he started with the help of a Ted Steven's earmark.

But yeah, she's gonna go in and clean up Washington.  MAVERICK REFORMER!

Wow...I didn't see that.  Do you have a link to that or was it on tv? 

One thing's true about this time of the year during elections - I get shit for shit done at work. 

Bam.  http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/talk/2008/08/dairygate-sarah-palin-and-myst.php

It's got exhaustive links at the bottom of the article, too.

[AdmiralViscen]

siamesedreamer, explain this!

[Eric P]

i think the country needs more politically motivated hiring and firings across all sectors of govt

which candidate is better suited to my needs?

[TakingBackSunday]

heh

[Mandark]

most of my problems with the current republican party and john mccain's candidacy can be summed up with their pick of palin.  she tried to have` a librarian ban books from a public library on the basis that people who voted for her found the language offensive.  when the librarian didn't comply, Palin tried to have her fired.

and that's "just" a fucking librarian she tried to push around.  

I'm sorry but after the blatant illegal politicization of all kinds of federal services in the past 8 years, the last thing I want is someone who thinks she wields this kind of power anywhere near public office.

Sing it sister.

There are going to be a lot of true believers still scattered throughout Labor, Justice, the EPA and the rest of the federal bureaucracy just waiting to throw a wrench into a Democratic administration.

If Obama wins I'd almost guarantee a "scandal" where one or more of those are fired, demoted, or reassigned and we get to hear that he's the one who's really politicized these positions yadda yadda.

[I'm a Puppy!]

Approx: 6:00 "She was an AIP member."

Oh me, oh my. 

Looks like Beardo and others need to apologize to the New York Times as well as Wilco.

Now you bet if Michelle Obama was in a secessionist political party, if she EVEN ATTENDED a single meeting (let alone TWO conventions) the GOP would rip her to shreds. Or, tell me, is this another "private matter"?

[Human Snorenado]

I <3 me some ronito.