Evilbore's Presidential Election Thread --Its the Final COUNTDOWN Ba da ba baaaa

[MrAngryFace]

I remember less whacko McCain from a while back, its the same McCain I said I wouldnt mind bein president if it turned out that way. Now he's all crazy.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm listening to the stream while I write reports at work. Obama is doing a good job responding.

"Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time."

[Phoenix Dark]

“It’s my belief that this is exacty the time the American people need to hear from the person who in approximately 40 days will be responsible with dealing with this mess.”

“It’s more important than ever that we present ourselves to the American people and describe where we want to take our country and where we want to take our economy.”

“What I’ve told the leadership in Congress is that if I can be helpful then I am prepared to be anywhere, anytime. What I think is important is that we don’t suddenly infuse Capitol Hill with presidential politics…”

“Presidents are going to have to deal with more than one thing at a time. It’s not necessary for us to think that we can only do one thing and suspend everything else.”

"If we need to be in Washington, we both have big planes that we've painted our slogans on"

[MrAngryFace]

New McCain Ad:

"I'm having a great time."

"Really, Senator Obama? Our economy is in a crisis and you're *Obama clip* "having a great time. gr-gr-gr-great time-ime-ime".

I'm John McCain, and I approve this message"

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02
lol

[hyp]

joe biden live - rockin' the mic:

http://www.barackobama.com/live/index.php

[GilloD]

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReportUC.aspx?g=54d651a7-a62b-4420-bb32-9dd6b2df8c02
lol

Ahem, let me be the first to say: "bomba"

[Phoenix Dark]

McCain pissed off Letterman by bailing out of their taping

David Letterman tells audience that McCain called him today to tell him he had to rush back to DC to deal with the economy.

Then in the middle of the taping Dave got word that McCain was, in fact just down the street being interviewed by Katie Couric. Dave even cut over to the live video of the interview, and said, "Hey Senator, can I give you a ride home?"

Earlier in the show, Dave kept saying, "You don't suspend your campaign. This doesn't smell right. This isn't the way a tested hero behaves." And he joked: "I think someone's putting something in his metamucil."

"He can't run the campaign because the economy is cratering? Fine, put in your second string quarterback, Sara Palin. Where is she?"

"What are you going to do if you're elected and things get tough? Suspend being president? We've got a guy like that now!"

http://drudgereport.com/flash3cbm.htm

 

[Flannel Boy]

  Letterman

[Phoenix Dark]

Fox News just reported that John McCain currently does not plan to attend the debate Friday night but that if a plan is agreed to by Friday, he will

Am I dreaming?

[Flannel Boy]

I haven't seen a maverick fail this badly since:

[Human Snorenado]

Man, if he doesn't show up to the debate... man.

Also, I have to say that the thought of Palin going on Letterman is hilarious.

[Phoenix Dark]

Malek 

McCain accidentally sent his talking points to the media
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Suspension_The_talking_points.html?showall

his campaign is imploding, Hillary style

[TakingBackSunday]

He might as well just concede now.

[duckman2000]

Awesome 

[Human Snorenado]

Ah ha!

Things just crystalized.  On THE MOTHERFUCKING SITUATION ROOM just now the McCain camp apparently said they want to move Friday's debate to next Thursday, and bump the VP debate to "a later date". 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[hyp]

Malek 

McCain accidentally sent his talking points to the media
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Suspension_The_talking_points.html?showall

his campaign is imploding, Hillary style

 

[Phoenix Dark]

Ah ha!

Things just crystalized.  On THE MOTHERFUCKING SITUATION ROOM just now the McCain camp apparently said they want to move Friday's debate to next Thursday, and bump the VP debate to "a later date". 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

the potential timeline:

September 26th: McCain fails to show up for presidential debate.
October 2nd: VP Debate - Palin gets shit canned by Biden in the debate, is seen as unprepared and acknowledgeable
October 7th: McCain shows up for debate - which is scheduled to be about the economy
 

Maybe Obama was right to switch the first debate to foreign policy afterall. 

[I'm a Puppy!]

What the hell is mccain doing? Does he want to look presidential? Most people that are smart enough will see right through this. Those that aren't are already republicans. Is trying to buy time for Palin? He wont get it. Does he think that he'll be able to ride in on the glorious bailout bill? Again any smart enough...

[Phoenix Dark]

Palin got owned by Couric?

COURIC: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

 

PALIN: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie--that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

 

COURIC: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

 

PALIN: He's also known as the maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about--the need to reform government.

 

COURIC: I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation?

 

PALIN: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

http://home.comcast.net/~duncanblack/couricpalin.htm
 

[Flannel Boy]

Palin got owned by Couric?

COURIC: You've said, quote, "John McCain will reform the way Wall Street does business." Other than supporting stricter regulations of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac two years ago, can you give us any more example of his leading the charge for more oversight?

 

PALIN: I think that the example that you just cited, with his warnings two years ago about Fannie and Freddie--that, that's paramount. That's more than a heck of a lot of other senators and representatives did for us.

 

COURIC: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.

 

PALIN: He's also known as the maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about--the need to reform government.

 

COURIC: I'm just going to ask you one more time, not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation?

 

PALIN: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

http://home.comcast.net/~duncanblack/couricpalin.htm
 

Jesus Christ, it's like a parody.

[duckman2000]

PALIN: He's also known as the maverick though

Because, you know, he's a loose cannon, and more recently, because that's what they want him to be known as (sans the loose cannon stuff). I wish I could be a politician so that I could pick my own nickname.

[Rman]

LOLLLLL, Laura Bush says Palin lacks foreign policy experience:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080924/ap_on_el_pr/palin_laura_bush

[duckman2000]

Good grief

[youtube=425,350]Vbg6hF0nShQ[/youtube]

[Human Snorenado]

Ah ha!

Things just crystalized.  On THE MOTHERFUCKING SITUATION ROOM just now the McCain camp apparently said they want to move Friday's debate to next Thursday, and bump the VP debate to "a later date". 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

the potential timeline:

September 26th: McCain fails to show up for presidential debate.
October 2nd: VP Debate - Palin gets shit canned by Biden in the debate, is seen as unprepared and acknowledgeable
October 7th: McCain shows up for debate - which is scheduled to be about the economy
 

Maybe Obama was right to switch the first debate to foreign policy afterall. 

Except that the October 7th debate is the Town Hall style one moderated by Brokaw.  The domestic issues debate is the last one, currently (maybe?) scheduled for October 15th.

[Phoenix Dark]

for realz? ah

well i bet most of the questions will concern the economy

[Eric P]

i feel that this is what it's like to live in a christopher buckley book

[MrAngryFace]

Haha oh man, I bet he thought this week would be better than last week.

[Brehvolution]

PALIN: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

Take it easy on her guys, she was just reading from the teleprompter.

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[Fresh Prince]

I'm not entirely convinced that McCain delaying the debates is a bad move; the nation first narrative will probably work.
I mean after Palin's success it seems people are gullible enough to believe anything.

[AdmiralViscen]

This campaign is completely hilarious.

[Mr. Gundam]

One of my good friends thinks this was a good move on McCain's part and that he continues to be a "beacon of hope for America." I think we'll just stop talking politics and be friends. 

[MrAngryFace]

This campaign is completely hilarious.

I hope it wins Best Comedy during the Emmys 2009

[Human Snorenado]

Good grief

[youtube=425,350]Vbg6hF0nShQ[/youtube]

OMFG

How can anyone see this shit and want to vote for this person?  HOW?

Oh yeah, distinguished mentally-challenged fellow baby.

[Debaser]

OMFG

How can anyone see this shit and want to vote for this person?  HOW?

Oh yeah, distinguished mentally-challenged fellow baby.

One of the people in that interview is an intelligent, informed, competent woman with a grasp on the issues

and one is a candidate for Vice President of the United States

[Positive Touch]

One of my good friends thinks this was a good move on McCain's part and that he continues to be a "beacon of hope for America." I think we'll just stop talking politics and be friends. 

you shoulda started hitting him as soon as he said "beacon of hope"

[Brehvolution]

debaser

I need a "I have no good reason to have this sign in my yard!" sticker for all the McCain/palin signs I see. Especially one for my mother in law.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

McCain's meltdown was so severe that it unfroze my account

[Phoenix Dark]

not exactly a three day resurrection but I'll take it

[Human Snorenado]

Patel

[Van Cruncheon]

return of patel, evilbore's lord democrat

[GilloD]

McCain's meltdown was so severe that it unfroze my account

 

[duckman2000]

It's amazing, though. Everything she says is rehearsed, and hey, that might work... as long as no one pushes for a different angle, or even just for some clarification. Which, you know, happens quite often in real life. It's nearly incomprehensibly screwed up that this woman is actually, seriously, a candidate for Vice President of the United States.

[Tristam]

omg Patel is back.

And I'm catching up on everything right now. I was behind in a class and pulled an all-nighter (which was preceded by an all-dayer) to play catch up for a big exam. I took the exam, went to work, and then came home and accidentally took a six hour nap. And my mind is still reeling from the McCain campaign's stunt and from Palin's interview with Couric.

It's amazing, though. Everything she says is rehearsed, and hey, that might work... as long as no one pushes for a different angle, or even just for some clarification. Which, you know, happens quite often in real life. It's nearly incomprehensibly screwed up that this woman is actually, seriously, a candidate for Vice President of the United States.

Near the end of the Couric interview I wonder if she deliberately misconstrued Katie's paraphrased description of McCain as praise -- either she's that dishonest or that imperceptive.

Either way, holy shit that woman is clueless.

[Cormacaroni]

It's amazing, though. Everything she says is rehearsed, and hey, that might work... as long as no one pushes for a different angle, or even just for some clarification. Which, you know, happens quite often in real life. It's nearly incomprehensibly screwed up that this woman is actually, seriously, a candidate for Vice President of the United States.

Dan Quayle wasn't preparation enough? How soon we forget...

[Phoenix Dark]

Breaking News ABC: Final Deal has been drafted, might be put through thursday afternoon

Mavericks work at the speed of light

edit:

A source just sent us a copy of the working draft of the bailout plan circulating, as of about two hours ago, in the House.*

Based on our quick look, it includes a strong provision for congressional oversight, limits executive pay, and would allow bankruptcy judges to adjust mortgages in order to help homeowners, among other items. In other words, the major Democratic priorities.

Things have been changing so quickly on the Hill -- even before McCain's dramatic announcement -- that there's no telling what's occurred in the intervening period.

The source, who's a well-connected Democratic lobbyist, added in an email to TPMmuckraker that "the deal on the "bail out" is 98 percent done. Treasury has capitulated on almost every point. A draft is circulating on the Hill now. No one needs McCain to help do the remaining 2 percent."

Late Update: As we should have mentioned earlier, the draft plan also contains a provision designed to "maximiz[e] taxpayer benefits" by requiring that the Treasury "obtain warrants" (i.e. stock futures) if it makes a direct purchase of a company. That's intended to ensure that taxpayers get a share of any future profits, and it's another element Democrats have been insisting on.

*Ed. Note: A well-placed Hill source subsequently tells us that this version has actually been circulating for a couple of days, and that while it's still mostly operative, it is not the latest iteration of the alternative to the Bush plan.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/tpmmuckraker_exclusive_house_d.php

[Tristam]

One of the problems with the insta-poll is that it's (presumably?) polling people who were instantly -- or nearly instantly -- informed about the issue. How many registered American voters are completely oblivious to political news? Freezeframe polls can report skewed results for many reasons, but that's one that worries me.

[Van Cruncheon]

democrats > dumbfuck poser americans frontin' like bootstrappers

god, talk radio was full of call-in distinguished mentally-challenged fellows goin' NO BAILOUT WE NEED A DEPRESSION AH WANNA SEE MAH NEIGHBOR LOSE HIS FANCY HOUSE AND AH TOOK MAH MONIES OUT OF THE BANK GONNA KEEP IT UNDER THE BED AND I KIN GROW FRESH VEGGIES TO LIVE HNRF HAW HAW and someone called in and said DEFLATION MOTHERFUCKERS YOU WILL PAY FOR $100 BREAD and then they said GOOD AS LONG AS MAH STUPID NEIGHBOR LOSES HIS FANCY HOUSE AND BOAT HE PAID FOR WITH MONEY HE DIDN'T EARN HAWHAW AH DID IT ALL LIKE MAH GRANDPAPPY LORDY LORD AH SO SMART AND RESOURCEFUL

and it was all OUR STUPID GREEDY CONSUMER NEIGHBORS ARE TO BLAME versus BIG GOVERNMENT IS TO BLAME and no-one pointed a finger at the crooked wall street fraud maestros who got us here in the first place

[tiesto]

Good grief

[youtube=425,350]Vbg6hF0nShQ[/youtube]

OMFG

How can anyone see this shit and want to vote for this person?  HOW?

Oh yeah, distinguished mentally-challenged fellow baby.

At this point, I'm convinced that the downie baby would do a better job running the country than McCain/Palin would...

[MrAngryFace]

hahaha oh mccain, if it goes through by tomorrow you'll have 700 billion eggs on your face.

[Phoenix Dark]

sounds like it's gonna be drafted tomorrow morning lawl

[Tristam]

To recap: McCain is a lying scumbag, Bush ruins yet another business he's involved in, Palin knows as much about running the country as Kittonwy.

omg Sporsk. 

I'm usually indifferent to his posts, but that one...

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I hope McCain turns around and starts fighting the Democratic proposal (in the spirit of bipartisanship, of course) to avoid the debate.

[tiesto]

OMFG

How can anyone see this shit and want to vote for this person?  HOW?

Oh yeah, distinguished mentally-challenged fellow baby.

One of the people in that interview is an intelligent, informed, competent woman with a grasp on the issues

and one is a candidate for Vice President of the United States

Posts like this make me want to buy even more Atlus games than I already do.

[Phoenix Dark]

Cheebs brings up a funny/good point

You know what I love?

Our economy is being saved from falling into a great depression not by Bush. Not by McCain. Not by Obama. But most of all by Barney Frank. Barney Frank is THE key person who has the power to get this through or not which determines the fate of our economy.


I wonder how many religious right folks from the south realize that a GAAAAAAY man is the person whose fate this country has rested on the past few days.


I would love to see their reaction to finding this out. Barney Frank ftw.

[Himu]

Good grief

[youtube=425,350]Vbg6hF0nShQ[/youtube]

OMFG

How can anyone see this shit and want to vote for this person?  HOW?

Oh yeah, distinguished mentally-challenged fellow baby.

I am in complete disgust.

The look on the face of the interviewer is priceless. She is like,"I cannot believe this dumb woman."

[Howard Alan Treesong]

[youtube=425,350]hvUsdmqGYV8[/youtube]


"Oil and coal? Of course, it's a fungible commodity and they don't flag, you know, the molecules, where it's going and where it's not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first," Palin said. "So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that it's Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. It's got to flow into our domestic markets first."

energy expertise

[Mandark]

energy expertise

More than anyone else in the US!

Watching Letterman right now.  God, his tendency to run something completely into the ground has never been put to better use.

[Fresh Prince]

That interview *smh*

[Bocsius]

I haven't seen Letterman in years. Tuned in tonight.

I wonder if Letterman will be getting a Christmas card from McCain this year.