Movie News, Reviews, and Discussion Super-Thread

[The Dark Shake 3000]

It is

[Phoenix Dark]

errr wat

[Diunx]

I hope Brad Bird doing MI4 means Abrams is now in the market to actually go back and do The Dark Tower. He's definitely my favourite young new director. He reminds me of Spielberg. In many ways, I've never went through the Spielberg generation of films. By the time I was old enough to understand E.T, it was already out dated. I have to say though, I really liked A.I.

So that's why I'm not into Spielberg. Though I recognize that at one time, he was great.

There is so much wrong in this post, amazing.

[Great Rumbler]

Beauty and the Beast is perhaps the most overrated animated Disney flick.

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:himu

Beauty and the Beast...overrated?

[youtube=560,345]__x8CYAVMbk[/youtube]
No

2D Animation

[Veidt]

that's right.  I don't really like Spielberg films THAT much. Is that a crime now?




I imagine, someone will be in my exact position and say "I don't like Abram films" 20 odd years from now. Because well, those films cater to a different generation.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

I don't care much for Speilberg or Abrams.

[Cheebs]

I hope Brad Bird doing MI4 means Abrams is now in the market to actually go back and do The Dark Tower.

So that's why I'm not into Spielberg. Though I recognize that at one time, he was great.

I think you are forgetting of a little jj abrams movie in pre production called star trek 2. Also how in the world is et outdated? It's timeless. You may not like it for the Spielberg sentimentality but calling it dated?

What do you think about close encounters?

[ManaByte]

And the fact that Dark Tower isn't going to be a movie.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Abrams has done nothing really good by me, hell they all range from OK to meh.

Which one was okay and which was meh?

[Veidt]

I hope Brad Bird doing MI4 means Abrams is now in the market to actually go back and do The Dark Tower.

So that's why I'm not into Spielberg. Though I recognize that at one time, he was great.

I think you are forgetting of a little jj abrams movie in pre production called star trek 2. Also how in the world is et outdated? It's timeless. You may not like it for the Spielberg sentimentality but calling it dated?

What do you think about close encounters?

Nice. I had totally forgotten about ST 2. Loved the first one to bits and it's my MOTY 2008. I still watch it every month or so. I love it.
Never watched close encounters, although I intend to now. Outdated as in, technologically outdated.

Also:

And the fact that Dark Tower isn't going to be a movie.

ManaByte with the unfortunate reality check.

[Cheebs]

I am a fan of his trek but he has only done two movies, both from pre-established franchises not really anything enough to be a fan of his directing from. I find the Spielberg comparison odd because Abrams has no distinct vision or unique films, which Spielberg has like him or not.

[Diunx]

The only good think that Abrams has done is Fringe.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Wasn't Trek 2009?

[Cheebs]

The only good think that Abrams has done is Fringe.

Fringe is a lot better than all his other shows, including Lost.

[Veidt]

I am a fan of his trek but he has only done two movies, both from pre-established franchises not really anything enough to be a fan of his directing from. I find the Spielberg comparison odd because Abrams has no distinct vision or unique films, which Spielberg has like him or not.

Never really thought of it like that. It's just that there's this feeling I get when watching his films, this very odd feeling that resembles a Spielberg vibe. I think its the action sequences? Very fast-paced and usually simple to understand, yet comprehensive story lines that don't force you to over think too much.

googled "abrams next spielberg" and surprised I'm not the only one with such sympathies.

Oh and by the way. I think I remember why I forgot about him doing ST 2. I remember hearing he wasn't really sure he'd be directing the sequel somewhere.

 Aha! http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/11/17/jj-abrams-still-unsure-about-directing-the-star-trek-sequel/

[Cheebs]

I still think he needs something that really has a distinct style that is his, he hasn't had his Jaws yet. He needs that "it" movie that isn't just some studio franchise already in existince .

I guess Regarding Henry is the closest thing he has done to that as a writer lol.

[Cheebs]

He wrote Regarding Henry?

I kinda like that movie.

Yep! And so did I. Harrison Ford was good in that.

Here:
#t=6m43s

[Mr. Gundam]

Absolutely awesome documentary. It appears to be in extremely limited release at the moment, and I'm not sure how much it will expand.

[Cheebs]

It's playing at my local art house theater in a week.

[Himu]

Beauty and the Beast is perhaps the most overrated animated Disney flick.

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:himu

Beauty and the Beast...overrated?

[youtube=560,345]__x8CYAVMbk[/youtube]
No

Certainly a fantastic movie. But not better than Aladdin, Little Mermaid, 101 Dalmations, Alice in Wonderland and my personal favorite...The Lady and the Tramp.

Honestly though, this is a slippery slope because ranking animated Disney movies is like ranking my favorite foods. I don't fucking know, and I think the bulk of the animated Disney flicks are all amazing pieces of movie making. But I think some people give Beauty and the Beast more credit than it really deserves because it was simply given an nomination for best picture.

[Joe Molotov]

Toy Story 3 is going to be awesome, but why are they making Cars 2? 

Cars did pretty good box office numbers, but the merchandising was massively successful, outpacing every other Pixar release.

I'd guess that's why.  It sure as hell ain't due to the huge crossover appeal of Larry the Cable Guy.

Yeah, you're right, I was thinking Cars was only a modest success from a BO point-of-view, I didn't think about the merchandising. That stuff was everywhere, and probably still is I assume. It's a lot easier to sell toy cars than talking rats or an old man doll, I guess.

[ManaByte]

Beauty and the Beast is perhaps the most overrated animated Disney flick.

             /
:himu

Beauty and the Beast...overrated?

[youtube=560,345]__x8CYAVMbk[/youtube]
No

Certainly a fantastic movie. But not better than Aladdin, Little Mermaid, 101 Dalmations, Alice in Wonderland and my personal favorite...The Lady and the Tramp.

Honestly though, this is a slippery slope because ranking animated Disney movies is like ranking my favorite foods. I don't fucking know, and I think the bulk of the animated Disney flicks are all amazing pieces of movie making. But I think some people give Beauty and the Beast more credit than it really deserves because it was simply given an nomination for best picture.

101 Dalmations?!?

The only 1960's Disney animated movie that's better than any of the 90's Renaissance ones is Jungle Book. The rest of the output in the 60s and 70s was just sloppy and filled with rough animation and re-used animation.

The 40s, 50s, 1960-66, 1988-1994 are the best eras for Disney animation. From 1966 (when Walt died) through 1987 was a bad time. Black Cauldron was out-grossed by the CARE BEARS MOVIE the year it came out.

[Eric P]

Abrams is terrible.  Please ban yourself if you think otherwise.

he was great with that... wait no, that was abraham lincoln

[Cheebs]

Beauty and the Beast is perhaps the most overrated animated Disney flick.

             /
:himu

Beauty and the Beast...overrated?

[youtube=560,345]__x8CYAVMbk[/youtube]
No

Certainly a fantastic movie. But not better than Aladdin, Little Mermaid, 101 Dalmations, Alice in Wonderland and my personal favorite...The Lady and the Tramp.

Honestly though, this is a slippery slope because ranking animated Disney movies is like ranking my favorite foods. I don't fucking know, and I think the bulk of the animated Disney flicks are all amazing pieces of movie making. But I think some people give Beauty and the Beast more credit than it really deserves because it was simply given an nomination for best picture.

101 Dalmations?!?

The only 1960's Disney animated movie that's better than any of the 90's Renaissance ones is Jungle Book. The rest of the output in the 60s and 70s was just sloppy and filled with rough animation and re-used animation.

The 40s, 50s, 1960-66, 1988-1994 are the best eras for Disney animation. From 1966 (when Walt died) through 1987 was a bad time. Black Cauldron was out-grossed by the CARE BEARS MOVIE the year it came out.

Winnie the Pooh was the 70's and remains a classic. One of the best Disney movie ever.

[Himu]

Beauty and the Beast is perhaps the most overrated animated Disney flick.

             /
:himu

Beauty and the Beast...overrated?

[youtube=560,345]__x8CYAVMbk[/youtube]
No

Certainly a fantastic movie. But not better than Aladdin, Little Mermaid, 101 Dalmations, Alice in Wonderland and my personal favorite...The Lady and the Tramp.

Honestly though, this is a slippery slope because ranking animated Disney movies is like ranking my favorite foods. I don't fucking know, and I think the bulk of the animated Disney flicks are all amazing pieces of movie making. But I think some people give Beauty and the Beast more credit than it really deserves because it was simply given an nomination for best picture.

101 Dalmations?!?

The only 1960's Disney animated movie that's better than any of the 90's Renaissance ones is Jungle Book. The rest of the output in the 60s and 70s was just sloppy and filled with rough animation and re-used animation.

The 40s, 50s, 1960-66, 1988-1994 are the best eras for Disney animation. From 1966 (when Walt died) through 1987 was a bad time. Black Cauldron was out-grossed by the CARE BEARS MOVIE the year it came out.

101 Dalmations is not bad and neither is Robin Hood.

[ManaByte]

Robin Hood is the most embarassing movie in all of the Disney animated canon. There is barely any original animation in it at all and they ran out of money while making it so it doesn't even have an ending:
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[ManaByte]

As for Winnie the Pooh, it's great but again they reused a lot of animation from Jungle Book in it.

It was released in 77 though and they were doing slightly better then by bringing in some new blood. Fox and the Hound finished out the 70s (it wasn't realeased until '81 though) and actually had original animation. The bear in that movie was one of the first things Glen Keane (The Beast, Aladdin, etc) did at Disney.

Great Mouse Detective actually was cool in that they used CGI in it, despite firing Lasseter for attempting that a few years earlier with Where the Wild Things Are.

[Himu]

Robin Hood is the most embarassing movie in all of the Disney animated canon. There is barely any original animation in it at all and they ran out of money while making it so it doesn't even have an ending:
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Yes. Barely any original animation in it. Are you kidding me? Did you get that from a youtube? And it does have an ending. wtf

In any case, 70's animation in general is cheap as fuck across the board, whether it's Hannah-Barbera, Disney, or animu. Robin Hood being cheaper than past efforts doesn't take away from the fact it's still an enjoyable movie.

[ManaByte]

It doesn't have an ending. They ran out of money and couldn't finish it. The actual ending is included on the DVD via storyboards.

[Himu]

What? I distinctly remember Robin Hood kicking ass and getting the gal in the end?

[ManaByte]

Watch it again. The movie just ends.

Ken Anderson (who did the designs) was PISSED at how the movie turned out. Little John was basically Baloo. Robin Hood used Peter Pans costume. Prince John resued the Kings costume from Bedknobs & Broomsticks. And the vultures and elephants were lifted from Jungle Book. On top of that they didn't even finish the movie.

I actually saw it again a week ago and it's the lowest point they ever hit.

The Rescuers and Fox and the Hound were much better due to bringing in new blood like Don Bluth and Glen Keane.

[Joe Molotov]

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Robin Hood gets his ass kicked, runs away, then everything's okay and Robin Hood gets married.

[ManaByte]

Yea they ran out of money and couldn't really end it, but the original version is on the disc:

In it, we see Robin Hood wounded after his fall from the castle wall. Prince John and Sir Hiss track him to the church where they find Maid Marion attending to him. Just as Prince John goes in for the kill, King Richard arrives and stops him.

Then it ends with the wedding.

[fistfulofmetal]

Defiance

enjoyable but nothing really special about it. looks amazing on BD tho.

[Diunx]

I think we can all agree that The Lion King is that best thing disney has done or will ever do.

[ManaByte]

They don't focus entire character animation courses on The Lion King. They do with Pinnochio though and there are rumors that some courses may start using WALL-E with it soon.

Lion King was the height of the Rennaisance though and if Frank Wells didn't die who knows how good the following movies would've turned out.

[Joe Molotov]

I think we can all agree that The Lion King is that best thing disney has done or will ever do.

Besides buying Pixar.

[Great Rumbler]

I think we can all agree that The Lion King is that best thing disney has done or will ever do.

That honor goes to A Goofy Movie.

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[The Dark Shake 3000]

It's playing at my local art house theater in a week.

You said the same thing about A Prophet :'(

[Phoenix Dark]

101 Dalmations better than BEAUTY AND THE BEAST? What the fuck

stop making me agree with Manabyte, holy shit himu

[Phoenix Dark]

Marathon Man

Holy shit awesome movie. And now I know why my dad gets pissed whenever my mom calls it "the dentist movie" 

[Ichirou]

Is it safe?

[Phoenix Dark]

Great performances throughout the movie, although I thought the dude from Jaws seemed out of place/wooden. I have to think, but I'm pretty sure this is the first film I've seen with Hoffman as lead. Came away impressed.

Too bad the love interest was ugly as fuck. Seeing her nude 

[Ichirou]

There's some famous stories about Olivier's and Hoffman's interactions during the making of that movie.  How diametrically opposed their acting styles were and how silly Olivier thought the whole "method acting" thing was.

[brawndolicious]

yeah Hoffmann would sleep on park benches and smell like shit when coming back to the set to get into character causing Olivier to ask him why not just act?

[Ichirou]

Interesting interview with Leon Vitali regarding Stanley Kubrick in general and Barry Lyndon in specific.

http://mutinycompany.com/article_leonvitali.html

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Is it fucked up that Lyndon is like the only Kubrick I still haven't seen (only bits and parts)? I even bought it on DVD a while ago planning to watch it asap and never did :'(

[Ichirou]

More than just fucked up...it's one of his best movies.  You need to watch it NAOWWWWW.

[Raban]

Just re-watched Dave Chappelle's Block Party again since I'd been in a sour mood the whole day. Goddamn I love this movie. Hell, it's fast becoming my personal favorite movie of all time.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Didn't really know where to post this, so I'm just gonna post it here.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118018205.html?categoryid=13&cs=1

Interesting Variety article on script doctors. Motherfuckers can clock like $60,000 a day for penning rewrites under the table

Also interesting that apparently it's how Shane Black has been keeping himself busy the last few years.

[The Fake Shemp]

I know a couple and they make ridiculous sums of money. The downside is that I feel the growing script doctor trade is a large reason why these tentpole flicks are so disjointed nowadays. Too many cooks, and all of that.

A decade or two ago, the studio would at least have the decency to hand it off to one script doctor - if that. Now, only God knows how many writers touch the screenplay for a tentpole flick.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

Its the Barton Fink effect, the studio goes after people who have big names but can't otherwise get anything else off the ground.  It doesn't matter that their resumes in no way mesh with a dinosaur-eating-people adventure flick, get me that dude who wrote Citizen Ruth!

David Mamet remains in the arthouse ghetto with his actual films, but he's got credits on shitloads of 'real' studio pictures.  Same with Noah Baumbach, Alexander Payne, and god only knows how many others.

[The Dark Shake 3000]

Films were better when they were all secretly written by Robert Towne :'(

[Ichirou]

The Two Jakes...

[The Dark Shake 3000]

I said "secretly"

But google it. The dude had his hand in pretty much every good-to-great film from the late 60's/70's. It's kind of shocking just how many amazing flicks he contributed to in some way, openly or in secret.

[fistfulofmetal]

Dead Like Me: Life After Death

Average. Sadly. Was a big fan of the show. The movie is still enjoyable in more of a "the gang is back together" sort of way. Well for the most part since two of the main characters didn't return.

It seemed like whoever wrote the movie forgot all the character development the show had and reset everyone to their most basic 1-dimensional selves. The story was really simple and is kind of disjointed because isn't really the main focus and only loosely keeps everything together.

Really, the only really positive thing to come out of the movie was Reggie. She grew up and filled out real good. Real good. Total hottie now.

6/10 for the movie.
9/10 for Reggie.

[Eric P]

Eastern Promises- wrong movie to watch while eating lunch.

I sell the Dead - horrible.  totally failed to be even an entertaining trainwreck

[The Fake Shemp]

I saw a preview for that when I was watching Dead Snow and almost added it to my queue. Thanks for the head's up.

[Eric P]

it doesn't find the tone of horror and humor at all and feels content to woodenly ape Raimi and Hammer providing entertaining emulations of neither.

[muckhole]

I sell the Dead - horrible.  totally failed to be even an entertaining trainwreck

 :'( I had this lined up to watch this coming weekend. Disappointing.

Will large amounts of beer make it watchable/passably entertaining?