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« Reply #25500 on: August 19, 2016, 07:13:55 PM »
Got a ticket to see the Final Fantasy Kingsglaive movie on Monday.  The one showing per day in the entire county was sold out Fri/Sat/Sun.  Couldn't find a single person willing to sit through this piece of crap, so gonna go hatewatch it solo.  This is gonna be sooooooo bad, but too curious to miss out.

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« Reply #25501 on: August 23, 2016, 04:12:12 AM »
I'm gonna double post this in the movie thread and here.  So I saw Kingsglaive FFXV tonight.  I don't know anything about FFXV.  Haven't played any demos, watched any trailers since like it was revealed as Versus and then the revealed as FFXV trailers and that's it.  These days I'm generally in media blackout on every videogame, just because I don't care and nothing worse than getting hyped up for a game that ends up sucking.  But anyhow, so knowing nothing about FFXV here's my thoughts:

While FFVII Advent Children was a bombastic stupid videogame movie that embraced itself and FF and was all about SUPER MELODRAMATIC slow moments and CRAZY ACTION at ultra-high speed with dramatic orchestra music pounding, Kingsglaive is a very mild low-key videogame cutscene movie.  It's a bit odd because the low-key more western cinematic style to it (aka, general lack of melodrama) would make it seem like it'd fit more as a movie, but it just doesn't feel like a movie at all.  It feels really close to like the Type-0 opening movie if it was 2 hours long and without the cool "We have arrived" music.  Just a bunch of action with no impact, bad editing, and the worst videogame sound effects I've ever heard.  Like they get in the car and it sounds like Gran Turismo 3 car sound effects.  It doesn't sound like a movie because the sound effects are like gameplay sound effects.  It's weird.  Also the music not being Shimomura but low-key background movie music really keeps it generic feeling.  At least if it had FF style music it'd have its own unique character to it.

The few little bits of character stuff are generally solid.  My favorite scene is the ONE melodramatic slow scene in the entire movie where Somnus is playing and the old Versus painting is in the background and it feels nice and character-y and it feels like the stuff I like FF and jrpgs for.  But then it quickly gets back into 90 mins of action action action that's for the most part terribly directed/edited with non-stop quick cuts and only the final fight really has decent fight choreography in a Cloud/Sephiroth way.

Story was alright.  Honestly, now that I know what FFXV is about, I'm sorta interested because I assume it's an old but workable story of an exiled prince taking back a kingdom.  But at the same time the quality of Kingsglaive makes me feel like the execution of the concept is gonna be pretty terrible like Type-0, which also had an interesting story but awful execution of it all.  If FFXV is anything like Kingsglaive the general feeling I'm getting is that it's FFXII x Type-0; lots of parts of Kingsglaive felt very Type-0.

Voice acting was a mixed bag.  Most of the non-big name actors were total shit anime dub.  The most elitist thing I'm ever gonna say about my Japanese is that I'm really glad I became fluent in Japanese before jrpgs started having voice acting because I have no idea how people put up with anime dub acting.  Aaron Paul is actually really good!  And Lena Headey's quality as well.  Sean Bean kinda sucks and his character doesn't emote visually which is weird, so that's disappointing, but on the antagonists the cowboy hat dude actually has a decent dub voice.  But then you have the 2ndary characters like white trash Barrett and no-name NPCs who really suck and take you out of the movie when they talk.

Visuals are weird too.  Like, you can tell these are video game cutscenes as they're decently above real-time PC/PS4 graphics, but nowhere near the quality of modern CG films.  You can see that most of the assets, especially in the environment are seriously in-game PS4 assets.  Some of the outdoor locations look really rough and some of the character animations are pretty bad too.  Even the lip-synch is off a lot, which gives it more of a dub anime feeling, but I'm under the impression the lip-synch was done to the English voice track.  Just feels budget.  And then the one seen that is seriously in-game PS4 graphics running on a giant theater screen wow, that looks terrible.

In the end it's not a bad movie, story is ok as a prologue, there's a couple cool scenes and most of the time it's passively enjoyable, but it's not good either and it's never really great like the highs of Advent Children.  Kingsglaive abandons its Japanese melodramatic epic FF roots and is the poorer for it.  It's the movie equivalent of those last gen Japanese games that tried so hard to westernize for a wider audience.  I don't know if this reflects on the game as well, but hopefully not.  Also, I never want to see a realistic Ultros again.

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« Reply #25502 on: August 23, 2016, 08:57:15 PM »


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Bebpo

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« Reply #25503 on: August 23, 2016, 11:25:57 PM »
And I didn't even talk about the crowd.  Imagine who would be in a full theater, the only theater in the city, showing a bad FF movie? 
The answer is the same people that I remember camping out for the midnight release of FFVII at the local mall with me back in 1997.  Except they look the same age and I've aged 20 years since then.  Definitely interesting how gaming nerd culture never changes over the decades.


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« Reply #25505 on: August 23, 2016, 11:49:24 PM »
And I didn't even talk about the crowd.  Imagine who would be in a full theater, the only theater in the city, showing a bad FF movie? 
The answer is the same people that I remember camping out for the midnight release of FFVII at the local mall with me back in 1997.  Except they look the same age and I've aged 20 years since then.  Definitely interesting how gaming nerd culture never changes over the decades.

There's an additional takeaway in your post...  :-*

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« Reply #25506 on: August 24, 2016, 12:29:39 AM »
Nothing wrong with still being a nerd in your 30s or 40s or even older.  There's just a lot fewer of us and we generally keep to messages boards that rhyme with store :P  Visibly public nerd culture is always going to be more teenage-ish, since a lot of people "outgrow" nerdy stuff like games as they get older.  I think when you start getting embarrassed enjoying what you like you're caring too much and as you get older you're supposed to give less of a fuck what other people think and just do what you want.  If there's a Final Fantasy movie, by golly I'm going to go see it!   ;)  It's why I post about this stuff here and don't care that it might lessen my cool sexy grown-up lawyer appearance.  Everyone here knows I'm super into jrpgs and have been for like 20 years.  Plus I still think I have good taste since I trash most of them.

I mean heck I'm surprised you, DCharlie or Jonnyram didn't see it in the Japanese release :P 

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« Reply #25507 on: August 24, 2016, 01:46:00 AM »
Nothing wrong with still being a nerd in your 30s or 40s or even older.  There's just a lot fewer of us and we generally keep to messages boards that rhyme with store :P  Visibly public nerd culture is always going to be more teenage-ish, since a lot of people "outgrow" nerdy stuff like games as they get older.  I think when you start getting embarrassed enjoying what you like you're caring too much and as you get older you're supposed to give less of a fuck what other people think and just do what you want.  If there's a Final Fantasy movie, by golly I'm going to go see it!   ;)  It's why I post about this stuff here and don't care that it might lessen my cool sexy grown-up lawyer appearance.  Everyone here knows I'm super into jrpgs and have been for like 20 years.  Plus I still think I have good taste since I trash most of them.

I mean heck I'm surprised you, DCharlie or Jonnyram didn't see it in the Japanese release :P

What a perfect response! As a nerd/geek hybrid who turns 49 next month, I applaud you.
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I didn't even know about the movie until about 30 minutes prior to seeing your post. I saw it on iTunes Movies' page. But to tell it straight, I really can't stand anything about FF except Tactics. I literally LOL'd when I saw their Japanese scripter credited, only to have high-level western voice talent in the primary roles. Square will always lose when they try to make movies; whenever they're awash in funds, they think they'll become the next Hollywood powerhouse, and then fall to their own infighting and ego.

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« Reply #25508 on: August 24, 2016, 02:59:15 AM »
Woah, I didn't realize you were 49!  I thought you were in that Dcharlie 5-6 years older than me, around 40 range tbh!  You look a lot younger than 49!

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« Reply #25510 on: August 24, 2016, 03:50:55 PM »


digital video just isn't as scary as vhs  :-\
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« Reply #25511 on: August 24, 2016, 04:16:48 PM »
Imagine a Videodrome remake with Facebook videos instead of pirate cable channels and VHS tapes.  :yuck
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« Reply #25512 on: August 25, 2016, 03:26:23 AM »

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« Reply #25513 on: August 25, 2016, 10:47:44 AM »
New Ghost In The Shell cast photos.

The last couple are just... :lol







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« Reply #25514 on: August 25, 2016, 11:05:09 AM »
The Death Note movie having Willem Dafoe as Ryuk and the movie also being R rated has me hopeful for that production at least.  :doge
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« Reply #25515 on: August 25, 2016, 11:06:59 AM »
Aw, Batou without his Ranger eyes? Travesty.

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« Reply #25516 on: August 25, 2016, 11:31:02 AM »
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« Reply #25517 on: August 25, 2016, 11:56:22 AM »
Boremances :lawd
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« Reply #25518 on: August 25, 2016, 12:40:27 PM »
 :lol

It looks like a poor HK flick from the 00's.
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« Reply #25519 on: August 25, 2016, 12:46:32 PM »
Ugh those Borma eyes. They should've just did something with the actual eyeball instead of an overt prosthesis like that.

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« Reply #25520 on: August 25, 2016, 01:33:04 PM »
Beat Takashi looks pretty great.

Borma's eyes, though. Whut? Hopefully they fix that with CG or something.
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« Reply #25521 on: August 25, 2016, 01:49:09 PM »
I don't mind the eyes, it looks cheap but it has some character, unlike what they did not do with Batou (I'm guessing he is either supposed to have more advanced prosthetics mimicking real eyes or that he will have glasses ?).

Also, why so brown ?
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« Reply #25522 on: August 25, 2016, 01:53:06 PM »
Watched Sicario recently. It's a slow movie and not always in a good way. I was sort of confused by it during the middle portion but the last 30 minutes are great and sort of redeems and gives context to the earlier part of the movie. It's a slightly hard movie to recommend but I'm glad I saw it especially the last portion of it.
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« Reply #25523 on: August 25, 2016, 01:55:26 PM »
Also, why so brown ?

Hard to say, since it's not even clear what the source is for these images or what they were intended for. Also, kinda looks like maybe they've been scanned from physical images, as well?
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« Reply #25524 on: August 25, 2016, 02:18:50 PM »
If I see Scarlett Johansen blink one time in this whole movie it's fucking trash.

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« Reply #25525 on: August 25, 2016, 02:25:53 PM »
If it doesn't open with a quote and a helicopter, it's trash.

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« Reply #25526 on: August 25, 2016, 02:26:44 PM »
If I see Scarlett Johansen blink one time in this whole movie it's fucking trash.
Is blinking an emotion? If so, you got nothing to worry about.
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« Reply #25527 on: August 25, 2016, 03:00:32 PM »
Scarlett Johansen is the female version of leonardo di caprio. Hot performer that is hired to do one note performances and only one note performances for her entire career.

She isn't even sexy in most of her roles, she's just there. She's a poor man's version of Sharon Stone, an actress that can be sexy and actually act.
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« Reply #25528 on: August 25, 2016, 03:24:16 PM »
I don't think those pictures look bad honestly. I mean they aren't cleaned up promo shots and will probably look better when it comes to the actual movie. Still, they look like actual attempts to be true to GiTS. I'm not saying the movie will be good, but those pictures don't necessarily depict a trainwrek yet.

The only one who looks really off is Togusa, because you know he's supposed to be the young one. Still, I don't even remember him being that important in the original manga. He's not even that important in the movie, really just Stand Alone Complex.

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« Reply #25529 on: August 25, 2016, 04:12:51 PM »
Scarlett Johansen is the female version of leonardo di caprio. Hot performer that is hired to do one note performances and only one note performances for her entire career.

She isn't even sexy in most of her roles, she's just there. She's a poor man's version of Sharon Stone, an actress that can be sexy and actually act.

ummm don't we want a monotone actress for the Major? 

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« Reply #25530 on: August 25, 2016, 04:19:04 PM »
I don't mind any of the GiTS stuff cause anime purity lol

But Togusa is a funny/strange choice.  In the anime he's basically a retired surfer beat cop white dude in his 30s.  So if you want to white wash he'd be a perfect fit, but instead he's a serious 50 year old Chinese? guy.  Kinda odd.

Like Beat Takeshi's hair though. 

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« Reply #25531 on: August 25, 2016, 04:41:54 PM »
isn't Togusa's entire purpose to be a relatively normal human body among all these super soldiers who are roided up on cyber shit they aren't even sure if they're human any more?

anyway, there is plenty of assy ghost in the shell stuff out already so this being shit is whatever

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« Reply #25532 on: August 25, 2016, 04:45:24 PM »
Don't Breathe is at 90% on RT. Time to eat, horror fans. :aah
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« Reply #25533 on: August 25, 2016, 04:50:38 PM »
Don't Breathe is at 90% on RT. Time to eat, horror fans. :aah

Seeing it next week sometime. Though well reviewed horror movies are spotty at best. Like, The Conjuring was well reviewed and super disliked it.

Planning to see it at a drive-in!!
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« Reply #25534 on: August 25, 2016, 05:04:25 PM »
Scarlett Johansen is the female version of leonardo di caprio. Hot performer that is hired to do one note performances and only one note performances for her entire career.

 :confused

ScarJo is a good actress. While I like Leo she's probably better for having a wider variety of roles. She's monotone, yeah, but I wouldn't call her one note.
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« Reply #25535 on: August 25, 2016, 05:54:44 PM »
isn't Togusa's entire purpose to be a relatively normal human body among all these super soldiers who are roided up on cyber shit they aren't even sure if they're human any more?

anyway, there is plenty of assy ghost in the shell stuff out already so this being shit is whatever
Yes, he's the "normal guy" character.

Also plenty of assy stuff? I guess Arise and Man Machine Interface but what else..

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« Reply #25536 on: August 25, 2016, 06:31:58 PM »
GiTS stuff sucks outside of SAC and 2nd Gig and maaaybe the first movie.  So maybe like half is trash?  Idk, I don't even like the first movie.  SAC and 2nd Gig is the only good GiTS to me.

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« Reply #25537 on: August 25, 2016, 06:49:12 PM »
Yeah that's what I meant.

For me, she's never been a role I've seen where she owned that role and another actress couldn't step in to fulfill it.

 
ummm don't we want a monotone actress for the Major? 

An actress who can sell a scene with silence and facial expression alone is needed, not someone who constantly looks doe-eyed and stares blankly ahead.
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« Reply #25538 on: August 25, 2016, 06:49:54 PM »
GiTS stuff sucks outside of SAC and 2nd Gig and maaaybe the first movie.  So maybe like half is trash?  Idk, I don't even like the first movie.  SAC and 2nd Gig is the only good GiTS to me.

The first movie blew my mind away when I was a kid and I liked Innocence when I was younger. Now, both of those movies put me to sleep. But I can forever watch SAC and 2nd Gig.

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« Reply #25539 on: August 25, 2016, 06:51:10 PM »
isn't Togusa's entire purpose to be a relatively normal human body among all these super soldiers who are roided up on cyber shit they aren't even sure if they're human any more?

anyway, there is plenty of assy ghost in the shell stuff out already so this being shit is whatever
Yes, he's the "normal guy" character.

Also plenty of assy stuff? I guess Arise and Man Machine Interface but what else..

Innocence is pretty meh to be honest.
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« Reply #25540 on: August 25, 2016, 06:55:02 PM »
Innocence is okay, but smh @ you guys talking shit about the first movie.  :wtf
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« Reply #25541 on: August 25, 2016, 07:11:25 PM »
Innocence is okay, but smh @ you guys talking shit about the first movie.  :wtf

To be fair, the film is a bit sedated, it's maybe not to everyone taste. Innocence going full wankery also maybe retroactively demeaned it while Stand Alone Complex provided a much more tone faithful adaptation ?
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« Reply #25542 on: August 25, 2016, 07:23:51 PM »
How many films have there been about cranky old people and the youngster that cracks through their shell, each of them teaching the other lessons along the way? This shopworn premise gets very nicely subverted in The Hunt for the Wilderpeople, which includes a bunch of quirky but naturalistic in context humor, and an adirmable effort to make the whole thing as Kiwi af (New Zealand references almost as thick as some of the accents). It never seems to be trying too hard for the laighs it earns, nor the occasional pathos it gets, but it does get them. Its a delightful, modest film. That was more than enough for me.

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« Reply #25543 on: August 25, 2016, 07:32:49 PM »
In any case, Innocence is still better than Arise  :yuck

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« Reply #25544 on: August 25, 2016, 07:46:38 PM »
Innocence is okay, but smh @ you guys talking shit about the first movie.  :wtf



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« Reply #25545 on: August 25, 2016, 07:55:42 PM »
take the boat pseudo-soliloquy scene out n put the lez gangbang from the manga in and the 1995 film would be perfect

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« Reply #25546 on: August 25, 2016, 08:02:28 PM »
One of my favorite films this year was the French tragicomedy Margurette, based somewhat loosely on the true story of New York society matron / batshit crazy delusional opera singer Florence Foster Jenkins. So when the more accurate / Meryl Streep version eventually made its way out here, I just had to check it out. Well, its not nearly as good, bit for being an almost stuffy, middlebrow and Grandma ready piece of cinema, its not bad. Hugh Grant lays on his unique blend of charm and smarm as thick as possible in his role as her husband and chief enabler. And Streep is fine too (her vocal performance for the 'singing' is actually quiteimpressive), but there's a lacking of any sort of inner life. Its all on the surface level. It lacks something, and I suspect I would still be thinking that even if I hadn't already seen a superior version of the same story a few months ago.

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« Reply #25547 on: August 25, 2016, 08:23:47 PM »
Innocence is boring and up its own ass, but man does it look good. I wouldn't say its ass. It also has some really well done action scenes that feel very weighty and realistic when compared to other anime.

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« Reply #25548 on: August 25, 2016, 08:50:46 PM »
Watched Sicario recently. It's a slow movie and not always in a good way. I was sort of confused by it during the middle portion but the last 30 minutes are great and sort of redeems and gives context to the earlier part of the movie. It's a slightly hard move to recommend but I'm glad I saw it especially the last portion of it.
That was nearly identical to my experience, though I loved the opening's bleakness. It was a little hard to follow, but the epilogue wrapped it up so well, all was forgiven.

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« Reply #25549 on: August 25, 2016, 10:02:32 PM »
In any case, Innocence is still better than Arise  :yuck

and this is why I'm never gonna bother watching Arise! ;)

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« Reply #25550 on: August 25, 2016, 10:19:53 PM »
SAC > everything

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« Reply #25551 on: August 25, 2016, 10:26:34 PM »
Jason Statham vehicles come in two flavors, sublimely ridicoulous (Crank, The Transporter) and the 'still ridicoulous bit at least kinda pretending to be serious' (Safe, Wild Card). The Mechanic: Ressurection is the sequel to one of his better serious ones, and its pretty much exactly what you'd expect, only this is a better version of it. With a globe-hopping narrative, Statham (or Arthur Bishop, whatever) slinks around like a cut-rate, perpetually scowling James Bond. I had a lot of fun with this movie, even though, if I'm being honest, its difficult to differentiate this one from many other B-movies where people wear sharp suits, lots of goons get creatively pwned, and somebody shouts "Get the girl!". This one has a little more omph, a bit more verve, its almost a B Plus movie.

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« Reply #25552 on: August 25, 2016, 10:30:57 PM »
Honestly, I just wish they would get Kenji Kawai to do the music again.

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« Reply #25553 on: August 25, 2016, 10:34:01 PM »


What a perfect response! As a nerd/geek hybrid who turns 49 next month, I applaud you.
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Holy shit, old man, let's start fitting you for your walker!

Naw, you're looking crazy good, was going to peg you for 42 tops, real talk.  :-*
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« Reply #25554 on: August 25, 2016, 10:35:39 PM »
Watched Sicario recently. It's a slow movie and not always in a good way. I was sort of confused by it during the middle portion but the last 30 minutes are great and sort of redeems and gives context to the earlier part of the movie. It's a slightly hard move to recommend but I'm glad I saw it especially the last portion of it.
That was nearly identical to my experience, though I loved the opening's bleakness. It was a little hard to follow, but the epilogue wrapped it up so well, all was forgiven.

I watched it on an airplane, with crappy earbuds, and the distraction of a baby crying in the row in front of me for half of it.  Not ideal, wish I had watched it in an environment where I was better able to catch everything.
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« Reply #25555 on: August 25, 2016, 10:59:15 PM »
Can't relate at all to Stoney's take on Sicario.  That movie had me glued to the seats from start to finish when I saw it, was one of the most tense thrillers I've seen in years and the music helped push that as well with sounds of dread.  Really really liked Sicario, really really don't like they're making a sequel because it's not that kind of movie.

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« Reply #25556 on: August 26, 2016, 12:06:56 AM »
I feel like Sicario was aimless on first watch, but almost deliberately so. Its entire point is to trick you into thinking Single White Female is the protagonist like every other thing ever, when in actuality it's Benicio the whole time. If you go back a second time with that in mind it's fantastic.

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Re: The new and improved "Movies you've seen recently" thread
« Reply #25557 on: August 26, 2016, 12:12:53 AM »
I feel like Sicario was aimless on first watch, but almost deliberately so. Its entire point is to trick you into thinking Single White Female is the protagonist like every other thing ever, when in actuality it's Benicio the whole time. If you go back a second time with that in mind it's fantastic.

Pretty much this.

 On first watch I just thought it was some cops versus criminals movie. And my mind wandered sometimes while this portion was going on. By the end you realize that this is just a backdrop for what is really a dark story about revenge, manipulation, and corruption and the cops versus criminals is just a backdrop to hang the story on. It took me until the end to figure that out.   

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« Reply #25558 on: August 26, 2016, 01:12:40 AM »
Weird, I thought Prisoners was good too (Sicario is much better though).  Too big of cast?  I don't recall it having that many characters.  Weird.  Enemy was good as well but that ending is super disturbing.  Don't really feel any of his movies are aimless.  They are all following a story and progressing forward and they're are really interesting. 

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Re: The new and improved "Movies you've seen recently" thread
« Reply #25559 on: August 26, 2016, 01:39:34 AM »
I liked Prisoners as a bizzaro take on a prestige movie. It has all the hallmarks of a big studio production that's angling for some Oscars, but holy shit that script they shot was on some strong meds (a respectable crime drama ala Mystic River it sure as shit aint).

speaking of which, I'm actually a huge fan of absurdity in film. Not that I don't appreciate grounded, realistic dramas and naturalistic performances (do I ever love the shit outta the Dardenne brothers, Cristian Mungiu, Mike Leigh, and Hirokazu Koreeda), but most filmmakers use a version of 'realism' that doesn't feel real at all. I've seen lots of terrible films that suffered exactly because the director was using realism as a crutch to justify deficiencies elsewhere in the film. Yeah, sure, the new Jason Bourne movie may be more 'realistic' then the latest Jason Statham epic, but why does that make it better? Why on earth should I value it more just because its ambition is to be a more legit movie about a superman who punches people really well, and if the rest of the film is lacking in some way should I give it credit just because its aim to be less entertaining and more 'serious'. I'll take the lower-aiming but more honest (and competent) version of that every time (thanks Statham).

Saw two movies yesterday, and two today, each of them offering a different flavor of the cinematic experience (quirky funny, maudlin, Statham punchy) and now we close out with the well attended showing of Don't Breathe that I went to tonight (its flavor was dark and screamy). Which is efficient and surprisingly clever in its reverse Wait Until Dark scenario, wherein a trio of morally compromised young thieves pick the absolute worst target for their home invasion robbery. There's no padding what so ever, its lean even perhaps to a fault, but it very well sets up and depicts the space of the fortress tight house that the blind but otherwise credibly badass old soldier (Stephen Lang) inhabits. There's not really much else to it except for all the chasing, stalking, hiding, and general thriller mechanics that make up the film. Its a sparse machination of fright, that keeps finding new ways to amp up the tension, but as I said just a little while ago, that's kind of my thing. Bonus points awarded for its deranged last act.