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« Reply #26220 on: December 30, 2016, 07:01:15 PM »
I certainly wouldn't let an under-8 kid see it but if that's your prerogative whatevs. :yeshrug

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« Reply #26221 on: December 30, 2016, 09:06:34 PM »
Really impressed with this Hellraiser: Scarlet Box Set, Arrow is quickly becoming one of my favorite Blu-Ray companies. The box itself is super seksay and sturdy, without being some awkward thing that doesn't fit on your shelf. The movies look and sound great, and have some nice special features. I watched Hellraiser this afternoon along with the first half of Leviathan: The Making of Hellraiser and Hellbound: Hellraiser II, a kickstarted documentary from a few years back. It's got a lot of fun anecdotes from the people involved in the movies (unfortunately not Clive Barker tho, who pulled out because of medical problems). One tidbit in particular that I thought was interesting was a story about the "Birth of Frank" scene. When I was watching the movie, I thought "this is cool scene, it has really nice effects" and then they mentioned it the doc that it wasn't in the original cut of the movie but the American producers (New World Pictures, Roger Corman's outfit) were so impressed by the early cut of the movie that they wanted to throw some more money at it, and one of the things they specifically asked for was a scene showing where Frank came from. In the original cut it just went from Larry bleeding on the floor to Julia coming up to the attic and finding Frank there. The stop-motion animation and puppetry of Frank's body reconstituting itself and then pulling itself off the floor was pretty cool, so good call there.

I also liked the effects guys talking about how the best source of cheap latex (which they went through a lot of on set) was condoms, so they had to go down to the drugstore and buy a bunch of boxes of condoms and KY jelly (for the drippy gore effects).  :lol
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« Reply #26222 on: December 30, 2016, 09:08:44 PM »
I certainly wouldn't let an under-8 kid see it but if that's your prerogative whatevs. :yeshrug
What's the concern? Not arguing your perspective, just wondering what specifically give you pause... you can spoiler shit if it's specific scenes idgaf
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« Reply #26223 on: December 30, 2016, 09:15:01 PM »
I certainly wouldn't let an under-8 kid see it but if that's your prerogative whatevs. :yeshrug
What's the concern? Not arguing your perspective, just wondering what specifically give you pause... you can spoiler shit if it's specific scenes idgaf

Just some scary elements and occasional blood/gore. I dunno, maybe I'm just a pansy.

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« Reply #26224 on: December 30, 2016, 09:19:02 PM »
Gunna watch The Shining tonight for the first time for NYE~
Been kinda obsessed with Nicholson lately, and it's about damn time I watch this.

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« Reply #26225 on: January 01, 2017, 06:07:14 PM »
Muppets take Manhattan Heh what can you say ? It's a Muppets movie. Not exactly very deep (Muppets graduate college, go to Broadway, get trounced but Kermit fights to produce their musical) but it's pleasant all around if you're in the mood. Puppetry and what they manage to achieve with it, including in real NYC locations, is fairly amazing.

Habemus Papam (We have a pope in the US) by N.Moretti
A new Pope is elected but there's one problem : he has the epiphany he wasn't up to the job. The Vatican is lulled into a legal loophole as they wait for the Pope to regain his senses...
It's a minor film, which follows in low-key the fleeing pope as he grapples with his anxiety and take some absurd (and ultimately pointless to the overarching theme) turns in its backstory, when one of the most stable institution in human history breaks down unexpectedly. But it's touching and manages to be respectful to the institution while being incredibly biting, thanks mostly to aging legend Michel Piccoli lending his vulnerability to the main role. Black, red, Swiss guards and Vatican locations also can't look bad on screen, so it's a rather pleasing aesthetic experience as well.
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« Reply #26226 on: January 01, 2017, 06:19:42 PM »
Gunna watch The Shining tonight for the first time for NYE~
Been kinda obsessed with Nicholson lately, and it's about damn time I watch this.

Honestly with age I tend to agree with what an acquaintance told me : that the Shining is really a comedy / parody. I never rewatched the whole thing to confirm or deny that but fact is there's some parts hard to take with a straight face (Scatman Crothers's interior decoration, further emphasized in its ridiculousness with a very slow zoom in shot/reverse-shot). At the very least I think there's some truth to the fact the film is taken way too seriously (there's a whole documentary on the crackpot theories and fanwank...), when Kubrick actually indulged quite a bit in satire or dark humour. There's something to be said for the the deadpan delivery of totally over the top visuals or story points.
Doesn't diminish in any way the grandiose direction or the actor's performance.
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« Reply #26227 on: January 01, 2017, 08:36:41 PM »
Gunna watch The Shining tonight for the first time for NYE~
Been kinda obsessed with Nicholson lately, and it's about damn time I watch this.

Honestly with age I tend to agree with what an acquaintance told me : that the Shining is really a comedy / parody. I never rewatched the whole thing to confirm or deny that but fact is there's some parts hard to take with a straight face (Scatman Crothers's interior decoration, further emphasized in its ridiculousness with a very slow zoom in shot/reverse-shot). At the very least I think there's some truth to the fact the film is taken way too seriously (there's a whole documentary on the crackpot theories and fanwank...), when Kubrick actually indulged quite a bit in satire or dark humour. There's something to be said for the the deadpan delivery of totally over the top visuals or story points.
Doesn't diminish in any way the grandiose direction or the actor's performance.

That guy in the fursuit sucking a dude's dick.  :doge
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« Reply #26228 on: January 01, 2017, 08:51:40 PM »
I think a good portion of Nicholsons perform is meant to be humorous. I mean some of the lines basically scream it. "Gonna bash em right. The. fuck. In"

King also writes a lot of self aware humor in his novels. The shining included.

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« Reply #26229 on: January 01, 2017, 08:59:41 PM »
Oh yeah, I watched it finally! Can definitely agree that there is some hilarious satire in there, and I thought it was all awesome. Nicholson's performance of course made the movie what it is, but I thought Shelley's acting was hilarious and bad, but I don't know if it was bad acting, or satire acting. Loved it regardless though.

Nicholson in the food storage was good, and the scene where he sits all frozen up in the labyrinth cracked me up.

I wanna watch more Stanely stuff now. Was suggested Eyes Wide Shut (already seen 2001, but I don't remember much, so will definitely watch it again soon).

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« Reply #26230 on: January 02, 2017, 12:14:27 AM »
Eyes Wide Shut is brilliant. I know a lot of people think it's his weakest movie, and it may be, but man, it's pretty damn haunting. I still get the piano ditty stuck in my head sometimes. And I loved the atmosphere of the city, even though it's clearly a gaudy set (which plays to the movie's strengths IMO.)

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« Reply #26231 on: January 02, 2017, 02:01:34 AM »
La La Land:

This movie is so special in so many ways. A beautiful story told through song, dance, and a lot of heart. It's an honest journey of two souls searching for that motivation to capture their dreams and make them true. It's probably one of the best movies I've seen in my life. The music is beautiful throughout and the performances are just great. Without giving away too much this movie is abusive to the movie goer just like whiplash was, but in an emotional pull that absolutely killed me. If you have a chance to see this movie in the theaters do it's not to be missed.

Warning: bring kleenex I was weeping like a little bitch.

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The missus hated the movie due to the ending. I thought the movie had courage to step out from the social norms and show a brutally honest depiction of life in LA. The movie is not about the romance, but rather the journey of these two to make their dreams come true and that is so special and honest it's refreshing.
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There is a scene that they have in the movie that is purely movie magic and I question how they made it happen because it's all practically done. It's just gorgeous and really showed off how beautiful LA could be, which is something you don't think about when you're there visiting.

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« Reply #26232 on: January 02, 2017, 03:07:19 AM »
Hellraiser 20th Anniversary Edition (as we hit its 30th anniversary). Still groundbreaking in so many ways, but many things stood out on this viewing. It's entirely unclear where the movie is supposed to be set. It was filmed in London, the Cotton home looks like a British home, and Julia and her friends, as well as Kirsty's boyfriend all have British accents. The Cottons all sound very American, and it's never clear why they're there. There are odd shots where Kirsty is wandering around some dock, looking up at cargo cranes; no explanation or context are shown. The sound is absolutely horrible throughout the production.

Also re-watched Nightbreed for the first time since its video release. I never saw this in theaters, and have not felt compelled to revisit it, but my awesome brother-in-law suggested it as a follow-up to Barker's directorial debut of Hellraiser. This movie is an incoherent mess. I read Cabal a ways back and enjoyed it, but can't remember how it ties in, so I'll be re-reading that soon. This movie has an identity crisis: it's supposed to be a horror movie where the monsters are the sympathetic ones, existing in secret alongside humanity. But the monsters are living in the cemetery, digging up corpses and playing with them, eating humans – or each other, or both – so when the Yee Haw Revival crowd shows up in 4X4s and have shotguns, rifles, grenade launchers, flamethrowers, and rockets, it's still kinda hard to root for the sapiophages.

Barker's a good novelist and excellent short story author, but I'm happy he didn't continue directing films.

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« Reply #26233 on: January 02, 2017, 06:24:09 AM »
Watching 2001: A Space Odyssey for the first time now! :piss

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« Reply #26234 on: January 02, 2017, 06:36:03 AM »
Holy shit, this movie is amazing. I can't believe it's from 1968 and has no CGI in it!

Edit: Gonna have to do a lot of research on this movie once I'm done watching.
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« Reply #26235 on: January 02, 2017, 08:28:43 AM »
The VFX work in 2001 is amazing, even Moonraker done 10 years later doesn't best it despite some excellent space station modelling.
It's also a fairly amazing movie that manages both to make incredibly blunt sweeping statements (the whole intro) and have some genuine mystery (it's up to debate why HAL "malfunctions", out of a perverse undertstanding of its mission statement or out of sentience and Darwinist competition with its human masters) and cosmic awe. Kubrick cold gaze is a perfect fit for the story too.
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« Reply #26236 on: January 02, 2017, 08:44:08 AM »
one of the few times i actually like the film more than the novel. especially the followup novels, which mistake the nature and purpose of the monoliths as something that needs a precise explanation a la midiclorians.
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« Reply #26237 on: January 02, 2017, 09:28:46 AM »
Hellraiser 20th Anniversary Edition (as we hit its 30th anniversary). Still groundbreaking in so many ways, but many things stood out on this viewing. It's entirely unclear where the movie is supposed to be set. It was filmed in London, the Cotton home looks like a British home, and Julia and her friends, as well as Kirsty's boyfriend all have British accents. The Cottons all sound very American, and it's never clear why they're there. There are odd shots where Kirsty is wandering around some dock, looking up at cargo cranes; no explanation or context are shown. The sound is absolutely horrible throughout the production.

It was supposed to be British, but the producers wanted them to American it up a little bit for US audiences., so they had to cast yanks in the roles of Larry and Kirsty. The guy that played Larry was the Scorpio Killer in Dirty Harry, so he was basically supposed to be the star power in the film.
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« Reply #26238 on: January 02, 2017, 12:09:28 PM »
Hellraiser 20th Anniversary Edition (as we hit its 30th anniversary). Still groundbreaking in so many ways, but many things stood out on this viewing. It's entirely unclear where the movie is supposed to be set. It was filmed in London, the Cotton home looks like a British home, and Julia and her friends, as well as Kirsty's boyfriend all have British accents. The Cottons all sound very American, and it's never clear why they're there. There are odd shots where Kirsty is wandering around some dock, looking up at cargo cranes; no explanation or context are shown. The sound is absolutely horrible throughout the production.

It was supposed to be British, but the producers wanted them to American it up a little bit for US audiences., so they had to cast yanks in the roles of Larry and Kirsty. The guy that played Larry was the Scorpio Killer in Dirty Harry, so he was basically supposed to be the star power in the film.

Yeah, Andrew Robinson. There was an interview featurette with him in the Anniversary Edition. He's an interesting character who was unfortunately typecast due to his success in the Scorpio role in Dirty Harry. The woman who played Julia is also quite good.

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« Reply #26239 on: January 02, 2017, 12:35:42 PM »
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Barker's a good novelist and excellent short story author, but I'm happy he didn't continue directing films.

He also did Lord of Illusions of which I don't have a lot of memories except it had an interesting premise (A PI interested in the occult cross the path of a stage magician with actual powers from his own experience with a cult) and KNB makeup work but that's pretty much it. The edit released at the time was lackluster and the production was, IIRC, somewhat difficult.

There's a director's cut now, adding 10mn or so, released by Shout! and it seems it is a substantial upgrade for the whole film.
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« Reply #26240 on: January 02, 2017, 01:15:25 PM »
Pre-freakout Tawny Kitaen...

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« Reply #26241 on: January 02, 2017, 01:19:59 PM »
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Barker's a good novelist and excellent short story author, but I'm happy he didn't continue directing films.

He also did Lord of Illusions of which I don't have a lot of memories except it had an interesting premise (A PI interested in the occult cross the path of a stage magician with actual powers from his own experience with a cult) and KNB makeup work but that's pretty much it. The edit released at the time was lackluster and the production was, IIRC, somewhat difficult.

There's a director's cut now, adding 10mn or so, released by Shout! and it seems it is a substantial upgrade for the whole film.

I liked the original just fine, and I think I saw an extended edition a couple years back. It's good. It's got Scott Bakula in the lead, and the cult which he's investigating is sufficiently scary. The premise of a stage magician doing actual extraplanar magic worked for me. The novella which "inspired" it has nothing-or-little to do with the movie. I wish Barker had done more with the character, more magic-noir stories, but I haven't yet read Everville, in which he heavily features.

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« Reply #26242 on: January 02, 2017, 09:20:09 PM »
The VFX work in 2001 is amazing, even Moonraker done 10 years later doesn't best it despite some excellent space station modelling.
It's also a fairly amazing movie that manages both to make incredibly blunt sweeping statements (the whole intro) and have some genuine mystery (it's up to debate why HAL "malfunctions", out of a perverse undertstanding of its mission statement or out of sentience and Darwinist competition with its human masters) and cosmic awe. Kubrick cold gaze is a perfect fit for the story too.
Even 48 years after its release, most of the interior looks futuristic to us in 2017. It really blew my mind. Holy shit, that stargate scene was trippy, didn't expect that.

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« Reply #26243 on: January 03, 2017, 03:58:32 AM »
I concur entirely, saw 2001 in a theater not too long ago, it really does look spectacular and very often convincing in terms of its now retro-future tech. Hell, the space station stuff really does look a lot better than many contemporary films that depict similar environs.

Oh, and Fences is pretty dang good. Worth it just for the sheer pleasure of seeing Denzel Washington finally, finally act again in a movie that measures up to his immense talent. Here, his near supernatural levels of charisma are put in service of bolstering a complex character who can't help but bring his loved ones down even as he tries to be the good person that he's not quite capable of embodying. And just as good as a performance piece so goes the dialog. Yeah, its clearly replicating a stage play, but I don't have a time machine to see this cast when they did it on Broadway a few years back, so I'm grateful for this version.

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« Reply #26244 on: January 03, 2017, 03:00:21 PM »
Currently watching Woody Allen's Everything you wanted to know about sex and holy shit at that second sketch starring Gene Wilder having an affair with a sheep. :lol
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« Reply #26245 on: January 03, 2017, 06:18:51 PM »
Everything you wanted to know about sex was so-so in the end, a rather uneven affair with Allen neurasthenic low energy comedy which can be hit & miss... Though to be fair, only the opening segment with Allen playing the king's fool is really dreadful (the whole New York Jewish anti-humor in the middle ages does not work at all here), the other weak ones are just average including a weird parody of then Italian cinema. It all ends on a high note however with the last two segments, an absurd spoof of Frankenstein movie with a giant tit as the monster and John Carradine as a deranged sex scientist and the final one where intercourse is viewed through the lens of the "body command center" staffed by an anthropomorphic crew and where Allen famously plays a spermatozoid.

The white rabbits credits are very nice.
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« Reply #26246 on: January 03, 2017, 07:13:52 PM »
I rather enjoyed Ip Man, it reminded me a lot of Fist of Legend which takes place around the time period(also Donnie Yen stars in a FoL sequel). But the biggest standout of the film for me was the soundtrack, the music sounded so familiar and I'm thinking to myself "Is this who I think it is?" And it was Kenji fucking Kawai(Ghost in the Shell,Mob Pyscho 100 and alot other stuff). I knew he did live-action, I just never expected to hear him in a martial arts film about Japanese occupied China.

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« Reply #26247 on: January 04, 2017, 02:15:03 AM »
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR

Thought this was lame. The original comic had immense promise and flubbed it. This is no different. Except this is far less interesting. The original Civil War the stakes felt higher. You had people unmask who you never thought would unmask. The idea of the Mutant Registration Act was excellent as a story telling device. Here, they set up some potentially interesting things but in the end it all comes down to Steve Rogers supporting a framed terrorist. The rest that happens is shallow antics with absolutely nothing to say.

It takes a lot for me to think you could be worse than the original Civil War, which was already pretty dumb, and make it even dumber. Motivations aren't even explained. Spider-Man the core web (lol) that links everything together in the original Civil War is there because Tony Stark told him that Cap "is wrong, but thinks he's right." Peter Parker, the hero that prized responsibility over all else is beating up other heroes because....? I had been putting this off and now I'm glad I did. What an absolute stinker. During the fight with the good guys at the airport I was rolling my eyes on how bad it was. "Why is any of this happening?" is a pretty good summation. Captain America becomes a criminal for little reason, and every single action he takes justifies his new status as a criminal but the movie is screaming "look how heroic Captain America is!" and you're left with a :confused face.

2 out of 5.
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« Reply #26249 on: January 04, 2017, 09:46:28 AM »
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« Reply #26250 on: January 04, 2017, 10:53:38 AM »
Seven Psychopaths: Wanted to love it, but it was uneven and self-indulgent. Solid performances were undermined by mastubatory plotting, presentation, and editing. The ending redeemed it slightly.

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« Reply #26251 on: January 04, 2017, 02:31:04 PM »
Zootopia

Really connected with this. I missed it last year and really wanted to see it but never got the chance. Perhaps has the most relevant and relatable commentary on race relations and America I've ever seen and I think will prove to be a Disney classic in the future. 5/5
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« Reply #26252 on: January 04, 2017, 02:45:20 PM »
Saw La La Land and Elle over the Christmas break. Pretty different films but enjoyed them both.
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« Reply #26253 on: January 04, 2017, 03:38:50 PM »
>the most relevant and relatable commentary on race relations and America


It was so hackneyed. But whatever.




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« Reply #26254 on: January 04, 2017, 03:42:13 PM »
>the most relevant and relatable commentary on race relations and America


It was so hackneyed. But whatever.





I found that it managed to get the race issue right and communicated it in unique ways. I had never really seen a modern movie tackle race in that manner.
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« Reply #26255 on: January 04, 2017, 05:21:26 PM »
Zootopia ruined 2016 for me. I hated it.

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« Reply #26256 on: January 04, 2017, 05:27:35 PM »
That's cause your a fox

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« Reply #26257 on: January 04, 2017, 06:00:57 PM »
Gunna watch The Shining tonight for the first time for NYE~
Been kinda obsessed with Nicholson lately, and it's about damn time I watch this.

Honestly with age I tend to agree with what an acquaintance told me : that the Shining is really a comedy / parody. I never rewatched the whole thing to confirm or deny that but fact is there's some parts hard to take with a straight face (Scatman Crothers's interior decoration, further emphasized in its ridiculousness with a very slow zoom in shot/reverse-shot). At the very least I think there's some truth to the fact the film is taken way too seriously (there's a whole documentary on the crackpot theories and fanwank...), when Kubrick actually indulged quite a bit in satire or dark humour. There's something to be said for the the deadpan delivery of totally over the top visuals or story points.
Doesn't diminish in any way the grandiose direction or the actor's performance.

Well no, it's Kubrick's confession that the moon landing was fake and he directed it, duh.

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« Reply #26258 on: January 04, 2017, 08:08:00 PM »
How's Train to Busan if I'm totally sick of zombie movies at this point?

Just realized I still need to see The Wailing and The Handmaiden.  Damn Korean Cinema was rocking in 2016.
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« Reply #26259 on: January 05, 2017, 01:10:06 PM »
I missed out on Handmaiden while it was in theaters in Seattle. Hoping Amazon puts it up on Prime Video sooner than later.
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« Reply #26260 on: January 05, 2017, 03:06:27 PM »
I missed out on Handmaiden while it was in theaters in Seattle. Hoping Amazon puts it up on Prime Video sooner than later.

Amazon has Jan 24th as the release date.  Not too much longer!

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« Reply #26261 on: January 07, 2017, 12:10:09 AM »
Elle is... well...

You know how a lot of Paul Verhoeven's very purposeful satire in Starship Troopers was lost on people? I think that's gonna be the case here, as the humor here is waaaay more arch and cruel. Actually, I already know that it will as the screening I just went to featured a large proportion of its greyhair-and-cardigan set trudging out of the theater in a disgruntled or otherwise visibly agitated state. The twists that this story takes is really quite a bit of the whole thing, so I'll just say the performances are great, and its a good movie on the whole. Its also massively ****ed up, so maybe don't take the folks out to see this.

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« Reply #26262 on: January 07, 2017, 06:07:02 PM »
It was pretty bad. Maybe getting a director who directs art movies was a bad choice for a movie about dudes jumping around and killing people.

It is happening a lot lately, isn't he ? Marc Forster being thrusted on Quantum of Solace and World War Z, Marc Webb on Amazing Spiderman. Gareth Edwards going straight from a half-million film (though one tangentially related) to GODZILLA, Colin Trevorrow for Jurassic World and I'm sure you could name a few others who would qualify.
All the more confusing since those big budget filmings have become hypertechnical affairs with VFX crammed in several hundred shots and are more than ever slave to focus testing and whatever perceived trends are hot at the moment.

I suspect it may be that apprenticeship and more traditional technical careers and promotions within studio systems have died a couple generations back and the effects are felt now. It's true outside the US as well so that usual source of tried and true directors dried up. Majors may thus be frantically vacuuming whatever talent they find at a higher pace to throw them in the trenches, before they can develop their own path in so-called "indie" filmmaking.
It's not surprising then to see JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon elevated to reliable blockbuster helms : TV still has that more rigid structure with good "company men" having to deliver under a ton of constraints.

But I dunno, maybe it's just a perception thing.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Chinese technicians getting some US prospects in the near future, especially if funds continue to flow from the PRC.
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« Reply #26263 on: January 07, 2017, 06:36:06 PM »
Definitely an interesting way of putting it Kriege, especially the tv angle. A lot of directors that have been toiling away in TV for a decade plus are suddenly getting called up to the silver screen.

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« Reply #26264 on: January 07, 2017, 08:11:21 PM »
It was pretty bad. Maybe getting a director who directs art movies was a bad choice for a movie about dudes jumping around and killing people.

It is happening a lot lately, isn't he ? Marc Forster being thrusted on Quantum of Solace and World War Z, Marc Webb on Amazing Spiderman. Gareth Edwards going straight from a half-million film (though one tangentially related) to GODZILLA, Colin Trevorrow for Jurassic World and I'm sure you could name a few others who would qualify.
All the more confusing since those big budget filmings have become hypertechnical affairs with VFX crammed in several hundred shots and are more than ever slave to focus testing and whatever perceived trends are hot at the moment.

Denis Villeneuve went from gritty crime thrillers to Arrival to Blade Runner 2 to Dune. And if his first scifi outing is anything to go by, then I'm all for it.
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« Reply #26265 on: January 07, 2017, 08:26:52 PM »
Gunna watch The Shining tonight for the first time for NYE~
Been kinda obsessed with Nicholson lately, and it's about damn time I watch this.
You *have* to track down The Last Detail.

Kind of a bummer that it's rarely in the conversation along with Cuckoo's Nest and Chinatown.

Holy shit, this movie is amazing. I can't believe it's from 1968 and has no CGI in it!

Edit: Gonna have to do a lot of research on this movie once I'm done watching.
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I seem to remember the sequel, while not as cerebral or finely crafted, is actually a pretty cool Cold War-era genre movie.

I also think it was pretty explicit in breaking down a lot of what happened at then end of 2001, which some people might take issue with, but I secretly kind of appreciated that.  :yeshrug
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« Reply #26266 on: January 07, 2017, 08:41:22 PM »
Oh it's not all bad, mind. I'd argue Villeneuve was not thrown directly into the megabucks VFX heavy meat grinder. But yeah, talented directors will keep on being talented.
 
Besides I may be talking out of my ass, it's maybe just a trend. At one point Hollywood was shopping the big directors in commercials, maybe now it's the indie craze, who knows ?

It was really weird to see Forster chosen for Quantum of Solace though, in a series which has long been entrusted to the safe hands of reliable technicians if not to direct collaborators (like Peter Hunt). Only non-British Commonwealth director in the series too.
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« Reply #26267 on: January 07, 2017, 08:53:11 PM »
2010 was definitely weaker than it's predecessor, but still a solid scifi movie in its own right.
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« Reply #26268 on: January 07, 2017, 08:53:43 PM »
It was pretty bad. Maybe getting a director who directs art movies was a bad choice for a movie about dudes jumping around and killing people.

It is happening a lot lately, isn't he ? Marc Forster being thrusted on Quantum of Solace and World War Z, Marc Webb on Amazing Spiderman. Gareth Edwards going straight from a half-million film (though one tangentially related) to GODZILLA, Colin Trevorrow for Jurassic World and I'm sure you could name a few others who would qualify.
All the more confusing since those big budget filmings have become hypertechnical affairs with VFX crammed in several hundred shots and are more than ever slave to focus testing and whatever perceived trends are hot at the moment.

Not sure where the Chronicle guy fits into this, I'm sure both sides blame each other for what went down with...Fant-4-tastic.

I suspect it may be that apprenticeship and more traditional technical careers and promotions within studio systems have died a couple generations back and the effects are felt now. It's true outside the US as well so that usual source of tried and true directors dried up. Majors may thus be frantically vacuuming whatever talent they find at a higher pace to throw them in the trenches, before they can develop their own path in so-called "indie" filmmaking.
It's not surprising then to see JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon elevated to reliable blockbuster helms : TV still has that more rigid structure with good "company men" having to deliver under a ton of constraints.

But I dunno, maybe it's just a perception thing.

Wouldn't be surprised to see Chinese technicians getting some US prospects in the near future, especially if funds continue to flow from the PRC.
It might also be a function of studios being so risk averse with their formulaic tentpoles that they'd rather hire guys that show some aptitude that they can still push around instead of more established directors that will fight for their vision. See: Jon Favreau/Edgar Wright/Joss Whedon.

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« Reply #26269 on: January 07, 2017, 09:16:35 PM »
2010 is a decent film though one that indeed is way too fixated on explaining 2001 (In the image of the book, if I'm not mistaken ?), though it has some shaky visual ideas at the start (Like Roy Scheider lives with dolphins in a basin at the center of the living room ?) before they get to space.
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« Reply #26270 on: January 07, 2017, 10:11:41 PM »
It follows the book pretty closely, yeah.
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« Reply #26271 on: January 07, 2017, 11:57:41 PM »
So I decided to rewatch the shining because of this thread. I do it about once a year. Shelley Duvall does such an incredible job of making Wendy a pathetic and annoying character.

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« Reply #26272 on: January 08, 2017, 12:08:33 AM »
A Monster Calls - good stuff, needs a bit more polish to be Pans Labyrinth type great, but good drama.

Begin Again - fuck, this was really good.  Best movie I've watched since Green Room last year.  Great energy feel good movie about music and wtf Kiera Knightley sings all her own songs and they're good; Mark Ruffalo does his Mark Ruffalo but he's not too annoying?  Mos Def with a weirdo beard?  All kinds of sexual tension but no creep factor?  Really liked this movie.  Liked it as much as Once.  Now I gotta see Sing Street.

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« Reply #26273 on: January 08, 2017, 09:12:08 AM »
(Spoiler warnings below, even though you've all probably seen Eyes Wide Shut).


After seeing some of you talking about old movies, I've been trying to watch some (and working on Kubrick's movies at the moment, as you might have noticed). Watched Eyes Wide Shut today, and again, without knowing what I was in for. The whole sex house thing was very unexpected, but really interesting (and it poked my fantasies a little). I kept wondering forth and back, thinking I had it all figured out, then 5 minutes later "Oh, NOW I get it". It really messed with my mind, how it seemed so certain who the dead girl was until we saw her at the morgue. At some point (especially the scene where you saw Nic with the mask on his pillow) I really believed his wife was the cultpit and did it just to test him. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Who knows, but either way, what an awesome movie.

What should I watch next, Full Metal Jacket or A Clockwork Orange?

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« Reply #26274 on: January 08, 2017, 12:31:58 PM »
Clockwork Orange. Then a Full Metal Jacket --> Whiplash double feature.

Don't sleep on The Killing, Paths of Glory or Barry Lyndon.

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« Reply #26275 on: January 08, 2017, 01:03:05 PM »
Barry Lyndon is the most slept on Kubrick film. What a classic.
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« Reply #26276 on: January 10, 2017, 03:57:48 PM »
If you haven't seen A.I. yet, you must. There is still a lot of Kubrick in that movie even though it's a Spielburg movie through and through.

The first 40-50 minutes of that movie is one of my favorite movie experiences ever. It kind of falls off after that, but will still keep you fascinated.


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« Reply #26277 on: January 10, 2017, 04:31:29 PM »
AI  :iface
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« Reply #26278 on: January 10, 2017, 05:04:09 PM »
AI is kind of okay [the Flesh Fair part is pretty great], but there's just not much there beyond that. And that ending is just...
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« Reply #26279 on: January 10, 2017, 07:00:10 PM »
Saw Suicide Squad on the plane ride home. I liked Rick Flag and Harlequin, was OK with Deadshot, and thought the pre-final-change Enchantress was super cool. Good effects. The first 30 minutes or so were good. After that, the film becomes steadily worse, even when it seems unlikely that it's possible to become worse. At least Batman vs. Superman had the guts to be bad the entire way through.

Edit: Margot Robbie's hotpants nearly made it worth watching.  :-\
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