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« Reply #37080 on: August 08, 2020, 08:51:22 PM »
I thought so too until I saw Olivia Munn shoot her self in the foot with a tranq, then take a nose dive off a bus.

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« Reply #37081 on: August 08, 2020, 10:07:49 PM »
Ok, this was a really good movie.  Pretty sure it's supposed to be an intentional parody of the hyper-masculinity of the first movie.  Though it's hard to tell because its also using the autistic servant trope in 2018 while also using 'distinguished mentally-challenged fellow' as the basis of a joke.  The comedic ultra-violence is spot on.  I also really enjoyed that they shot the preditor-dog (who sports dreadlocks) in the head which turned it into a happy-go-lucky goodboi dog.

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« Reply #37082 on: August 08, 2020, 10:15:49 PM »
I remember liking it while watching, but don't remember much about the movie and don't know if I'll ever watch again  :trumps
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« Reply #37083 on: August 09, 2020, 04:40:54 AM »
Last Shift: pretty good combination of a ghost story and “assault on precinct 13.” The black canary from arrow is in it, and she is quite compelling in a role that basically has the camera on her 99% of the time. There are a few, exquisite, truly surprising moments in it that made me say “holy shit.” If it’s on your local Netflix, please check it out!

Is that a metaphor for taking the role in X-Men Apocalypse instead of Deadpool?

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« Reply #37084 on: August 09, 2020, 10:22:11 AM »
Ready Player One was a Transformers-level bad movie.   Kinda enjoyed it. 

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« Reply #37085 on: August 09, 2020, 12:25:41 PM »
Possessor. Directed by Brandon Cronenberg, the son of David Cronenberg (Kind of obvious). It is very much a film David Cronenberg would make as well. It's as if David Cronenberg went, "Son, I am getting too old for this shit, could you do this film for me?". It is not the best film in the world, but definitely worth a watch. It is certainly an interesting concept. Perhaps its flaw is trying to do too much with it, instead of keeping it simple and focused. Still, it has its moments.

I will also mention Sean Bean is in this movie. I'm sure you know the joke about Sean Bean. Well, they kind of play around with that joke towards the end.

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« Reply #37086 on: August 10, 2020, 01:33:52 AM »
Looks neat.
I suggest you watch Antiviral if you haven't.
It's been years since i watched it (when it came out, in 2012), but i remember it being kind of neat.
It's one of those very obvious allegoric sci fi, more style than substance, but it has a vibe.



Also, watching movies in this heat is impossible, so i retract my previous statement about getting back into serious cinema, until the weather cools off.
Sitting 2 hours on the couch, turns it into a puddle.  :stahp

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« Reply #37087 on: August 10, 2020, 05:26:18 AM »
I heard Host on Shudder (not to be confused with The Host)  was a good new horror movie and watched it tonight.

Was good, but not great. Was neat seeing a legit Covid Lockdown movie already and it's done pretty well. It's also actually fairly tense and creepy with some scares.

My only issue is even at 55 min runtime I was kinda bored by the end, because it hit one of my horror movie pet peeves:

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I think it's bad storytelling to not present any glimmer of hope for the main characters and so you just watch them die one by one and then the movie's over.

I think it's fine to kill everyone in the end, but you need to at least give them a potential escape/way out so the audience is rooting for them and there's tension of whether they make it or not.

If there's no way out it just gets boring after a few deaths when you realize there's nothing left to the runtime than watching the remaining characters die one by one.
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Still if you have Shudder it's worth a watch.

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« Reply #37088 on: August 10, 2020, 05:59:47 AM »
Are you talking about 2006 The Host or 2013 The Host? Holy shit there's a 2020 The Host too? Take a hint screenwriters

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« Reply #37089 on: August 10, 2020, 02:58:54 PM »
They're finally doing another Tron, but Jared Leto is the star. :tocry
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« Reply #37090 on: August 10, 2020, 03:00:42 PM »
They're finally doing another Tron, but Jared Leto is the star. :tocry

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« Reply #37091 on: August 10, 2020, 08:58:45 PM »
Aye lmao. Worst news of the day. Well almost. Things weren't so hot in Chicago this early morning.

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« Reply #37092 on: August 11, 2020, 12:24:10 AM »
Possessor. Directed by Brandon Cronenberg, the son of David Cronenberg (Kind of obvious). It is very much a film David Cronenberg would make as well. It's as if David Cronenberg went, "Son, I am getting too old for this shit, could you do this film for me?". It is not the best film in the world, but definitely worth a watch. It is certainly an interesting concept. Perhaps its flaw is trying to do too much with it, instead of keeping it simple and focused. Still, it has its moments.

I will also mention Sean Bean is in this movie. I'm sure you know the joke about Sean Bean. Well, they kind of play around with that joke towards the end.



Is this on any streaming site in the US? Looks interesting.

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« Reply #37093 on: August 11, 2020, 12:55:47 PM »
Watched a trio of similar films released in the same year (2010-11)


Scott Pilgrim: saw bits and pieces through the years but never sat down watched the whole thing in one go. It's more style than substance, but it's creative and entertaining. So worth it, I guess.


Kickass: always avoided that one, until now. Seeing Nicholas Cage and Mark Strong were in this convinced me to give it a chance. It's ok. What if some nerd with no abilities took up crime-fighting in a costume? This movie tries to answer that question while stretching plausibility for some laughs and action set pieces. I am curious about the sequel now but the rating on Rotten Tomatoes makes me reconsider.


Super: Very similar plot-wise to Kickass, but darker. Not as entertaining though. More Ellen Page would have been nice though.

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« Reply #37094 on: August 11, 2020, 01:36:33 PM »
I found Super to be better than KickAss in basically every respect, but then again, i kind of hated KickAss.

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« Reply #37095 on: August 11, 2020, 03:23:51 PM »
Kick ass takes the cake for the the  scene with nick cage

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« Reply #37096 on: August 11, 2020, 11:59:35 PM »
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« Reply #37097 on: August 12, 2020, 08:03:06 AM »
Watching Inland Empire. Only an hour in and I've never been so scared by a movie in my entire life.
Posting on the internet while watching a movie is a sin.  :ufup
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« Reply #37098 on: August 12, 2020, 01:19:44 PM »
Watching Inland Empire. Only an hour in and I've never been so scared by a movie in my entire life.



I wonder if I'd like Inland Empire any better nowadays. I only saw it once when it came out but I remember being put off by the combo of it being so obtuse, 3 hours long and shot on dogshit standard def Sony Handycam. I'd like to think I've grown since then but tbh I still felt pretty frustrated for a lot of the last season of Twin Peaks. I do like Blue Velvet, Wild at Heart, Lost Highway, Straight Story and Mulholland Drive tho.

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« Reply #37099 on: August 12, 2020, 02:33:38 PM »
I liked Inland Empire from the first moment, but of his movies, it's definitely the hardest one to stomach, if you just don't love "being" in those worlds.
I haven't watched it since though.

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« Reply #37100 on: August 12, 2020, 03:14:48 PM »
I hated inland Empire when I saw it in 2006, I thought it was a huge disappointment after Mulholland Drive. I haven't seen it since and I'm not sure how I'd feel about it now.
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« Reply #37101 on: August 12, 2020, 05:04:52 PM »
Possessor. Directed by Brandon Cronenberg, the son of David Cronenberg (Kind of obvious). It is very much a film David Cronenberg would make as well. It's as if David Cronenberg went, "Son, I am getting too old for this shit, could you do this film for me?". It is not the best film in the world, but definitely worth a watch. It is certainly an interesting concept. Perhaps its flaw is trying to do too much with it, instead of keeping it simple and focused. Still, it has its moments.

I will also mention Sean Bean is in this movie. I'm sure you know the joke about Sean Bean. Well, they kind of play around with that joke towards the end.



Is this on any streaming site in the US? Looks interesting.

Don't know. It should be on Shudder I guess, but it's not. I guess it must be on one.

It is on pirate sites.  ;)

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« Reply #37102 on: August 12, 2020, 06:13:42 PM »
watched this and manufactured landscapes last night. basically what i always wanted shows on discovery like Megastructures to be.

an incredible montage of fantastic imagery. the voiceover is pretty trite, but gives it an angle and doesn't overstay it's welcome.

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« Reply #37103 on: August 12, 2020, 07:33:49 PM »
I really liked Manufactured Landscapes, so I'll have to check that out sometime.
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« Reply #37104 on: August 12, 2020, 07:51:45 PM »



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« Reply #37105 on: August 12, 2020, 10:17:12 PM »
I don’t see it mentioned often but the actor who plays the rich father from Parasite is such a hunk :-*

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« Reply #37106 on: August 13, 2020, 09:05:12 PM »
It: Chapter 2
The kids’ performances are better than the adults’, with few exceptions. Bill Hader can do no wrong. The CG is good, but still clearly CG; I lament the eschewing of practical effects. With every CG-driven horror film, we stray further from God’s grace.

Structurally, I was happy to see that they went with the present day/flashbacks of the novel for the second outing. I thought it would stay strictly with the adults, the same way the first film stayed strictly with the kids.

Though it would’ve been difficult to transfer the odd concept of the turtle to film, the Native American ritual stuff was even more confusing and less convincing.

Overall, less satisfying than the first film.

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« Reply #37107 on: August 14, 2020, 07:20:49 AM »
After Porn Ends 3 – Take a look at the lives of about 8 or so people who used to be in porn. Nice to see how they view themselves now and how they viewed themselves then. What were their motivators of getting in and then out of the industry. How have they coped with that. Some are still very much kind of part of it even I they aren’t taking part in shoots. Other people have gone in a completely different direction. It’s always sad when you see that someone came out pretty damaged by the end of their tenure. Sure, even some of the people who were satisfied had their ups and downs.

But yeah, it’s interesting how all these people who were legit big stars have adapted. I enjoy how the moms deal with their past. Cause they care about their own kids and realize how they are perceived in the public (not in the best light sadly by society’s standards). Some of them just decided that “hey I have a kid so I’m out”, others tried to keep it up, but had to find a way to make it so their kids aren’t affected by others being idiots to them because of their mom’s past. I quite liked those small bits when it applied to said actresses.

More than anything though, when watching similar type of docs, you hope that the person getting into the industry is actually serious about it (and hopefully doesn’t run into the vilest of scumbags early on), because you can quit, but there is no turning back. You’re branded. It’s bullshit, but it’s the truth. That’s tough to grasp though when you are a very young adult, so I feel for those going into the industry and hope they have their head on straight about the everything tied to it.
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« Reply #37108 on: August 14, 2020, 08:58:49 AM »
It: Chapter 2
The kids’ performances are better than the adults’, with few exceptions. Bill Hader can do no wrong. The CG is good, but still clearly CG; I lament the eschewing of practical effects. With every CG-driven horror film, we stray further from God’s grace.

Structurally, I was happy to see that they went with the present day/flashbacks of the novel for the second outing. I thought it would stay strictly with the adults, the same way the first film stayed strictly with the kids.

Though it would’ve been difficult to transfer the odd concept of the turtle to film, the Native American ritual stuff was even more confusing and less convincing.

Overall, less satisfying than the first film.
I think where a lot of SK adaptations falter is when they try to ride the line between respecting King’s crazy shit like Gan while trying to make it more palatable for the audience. It works best when they either dive fully into the crazy like Flanagan seems to in his adaptations or avoid it completely and rewrite pivotal moments.

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« Reply #37109 on: August 14, 2020, 09:11:31 AM »
After Porn Ends 3 – Take a look at the lives of about 8 or so people who used to be in porn. Nice to see how they view themselves now and how they viewed themselves then. What were their motivators of getting in and then out of the industry. How have they coped with that. Some are still very much kind of part of it even I they aren’t taking part in shoots. Other people have gone in a completely different direction. It’s always sad when you see that someone came out pretty damaged by the end of their tenure. Sure, even some of the people who were satisfied had their ups and downs.

But yeah, it’s interesting how all these people who were legit big stars have adapted. I enjoy how the moms deal with their past. Cause they care about their own kids and realize how they are perceived in the public (not in the best light sadly by society’s standards). Some of them just decided that “hey I have a kid so I’m out”, others tried to keep it up, but had to find a way to make it so their kids aren’t affected by others being idiots to them because of their mom’s past. I quite liked those small bits when it applied to said actresses.

More than anything though, when watching similar type of docs, you hope that the person getting into the industry is actually serious about it (and hopefully doesn’t run into the vilest of scumbags early on), because you can quit, but there is no turning back. You’re branded. It’s bullshit, but it’s the truth. That’s tough to grasp though when you are a very young adult, so I feel for those going into the industry and hope they have their head on straight about the everything tied to it.
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I watched the first one of those porn docs. Overall it was both less and more shocking than you would expect.
It seems like most girls that end in trouble are those that don't really make it and they know it too. They know they shouldn't go to that one guy and only work with the better known crews but at some point they are too old, they haven't cultivated their fanbase well enough and they've gotten used to the lifestyle so they need to take whatever they can find. Still for the bigger sites/production companies it is very much a business so the guy that does the casting/recruiting if you will makes a good point that if he was an asshole and didn't treat his girls well it would be bad for his business.

The most stunning moment in the 1st one is when one of the starlets has to tell her parents what she's up to. She has told mom but not dad and before she leaves again she has to tell him. Although the mother warns that her dad certainly won't approve and will likely break up with her. Even though her mother hadn't told her father, when she finally tells him he says he already knew what she was up to and that he doesn't approve but would support her no matter what.

It's really weird to see her return from shooting porn and partying back to her parents and boyfriend a couple of times before she finally decides to stop.
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« Reply #37110 on: August 14, 2020, 09:15:31 AM »
The story in your second paragraph sounds similar to what happened in the doc "Hot Girls Wanted". I didn't think too much of that doc though.

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« Reply #37111 on: August 14, 2020, 09:17:38 AM »
The story in your second paragraph sounds similar to what happened in the doc "Hot Girls Wanted". I didn't think too much of that doc though.
Ah yes that was the one
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« Reply #37112 on: August 14, 2020, 03:44:54 PM »
Just saw Green Room, the movie from 3-4 years ago, where Patrick Stewart plays a villain.

It's an ok thriller. And it doesn't overstay its welcome at only 91 min long.

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« Reply #37113 on: August 14, 2020, 08:01:58 PM »
Yeah it's solid. RIP to the Russian male lead that was crushed by his car, which still seems like the worst luck ever.

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« Reply #37114 on: August 14, 2020, 08:05:34 PM »
Yeah it's solid. RIP to the Russian male lead that was crushed by his car, which still seems like the worst luck ever.

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« Reply #37115 on: August 14, 2020, 10:21:16 PM »
On TV the other day was a Wesley Snipes doubleheader, Passenger 57 & Demolition Man.

They both contain scenery chewing villains, heroes who are heroic, and slow motion shooting. Hot Fuzz was right, 90's action was the best

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« Reply #37116 on: August 15, 2020, 01:42:02 AM »
On TV the other day was a Wesley Snipes doubleheader, Passenger 57 & Demolition Man.

They both contain scenery chewing villains, heroes who are heroic, and slow motion shooting. Hot Fuzz was right, 90's action was the best

I have a preference for 80’s action over 90’s action, but you’re still not wrong.  That early/mid-90’s gamut of action movies was excellent.  What do you do hotshot?  You shoot the hostage.

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« Reply #37117 on: August 15, 2020, 02:03:39 AM »
On TV the other day was a Wesley Snipes doubleheader, Passenger 57 & Demolition Man.

They both contain scenery chewing villains, heroes who are heroic, and slow motion shooting. Hot Fuzz was right, 90's action was the best

I have a preference for 80’s action over 90’s action, but you’re still not wrong.  That early/mid-90’s gamut of action movies was excellent.  What do you do hotshot?  You shoot the hostage.

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Yes! The hostage will recover... maybe... but you've just saved the city ... again!

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« Reply #37118 on: August 15, 2020, 05:42:55 AM »
Well-rated Irish supernatural comedy Extra Ordinary was 99˘ on iTunes and had Will Forte, so I took a chance. It was pretty enjoyable. The humor was fairly understated but there are some sassy bits to boot.

Watching 28 Weeks Later finally. There are a whole heap of actors in this. I remembered Robert Carlyle is in it, but didn’t know Imogen Poots, Jeremy Renner, and Idris Elba are as well. Also the “operator” from the Matrix sequels who also was in the first Z-Nation episode. Anyway. That opening scene is harsh as hell. Nice that this one is shot on film. The video techniques from the first one really don’t hold up.

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« Reply #37119 on: August 15, 2020, 08:11:33 AM »
Yeah it's solid. RIP to the Russian male lead that was crushed by his car, which still seems like the worst luck ever.

Well, wish me luck, Blue Ruin is next and from my understanding, similar kind of movie made by the same guy.

Actually used a Quantum splitter app to help me make the decision (other choice was the weird Under the Skin movie with Scarlet Johansson). :)

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« Reply #37120 on: August 15, 2020, 09:35:40 AM »
Watching 28 Weeks Later finally. There are a whole heap of actors in this. I remembered Robert Carlyle is in it, but didn’t know Imogen Poots, Jeremy Renner, and Idris Elba are as well. Also the “operator” from the Matrix sequels who also was in the first Z-Nation episode. Anyway. That opening scene is harsh as hell. Nice that this one is shot on film. The video techniques from the first one really don’t hold up.

i feel like the opening scene is what i wanted the whole movie to be like. instead we got harold perrineu lopping zombie heads with a helicopter rotor. Hopefully Danny Boyle decides to do his plan for 28 Months Later - but who knows

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« Reply #37121 on: August 15, 2020, 12:44:41 PM »
Ok, Blue Ruin seen now. It's ok. It's a thriller, but you mostly follow one guy fleeing/on a revenge quest. Some mystery until the end.

I think Green Room is better, even if you're mostly at the same location. More characters help.
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« Reply #37122 on: August 15, 2020, 02:09:37 PM »
Blue Ruin is so gooood.

So bleak though  :'(

Green Room is easier to enjoy. Did you watch Hold the Dark? Keep in mind he didn't write the story for that one, but I still think it's quite good. Though the weakest of those three.

Also please watch Murder Party if you have not yet. It's Saulnier doing a dark comedy and it's fucking funny.


It's too bad we couldn't have a full True Detective S3 with Saulnier. Those first 2eps he directed are such a good start.

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« Reply #37123 on: August 15, 2020, 08:54:48 PM »
I've seen plenty of David Lynch but I had never seen Eraserhead until today.

Well that was certainly something lol!

I won't even pretend to say I understood it or even understood whether there was something to understand beyond it being a visual version of a walking nightmare.

That being said it works even without getting it if there is indeed a thing to get. It's just a striking visual piece of work that lets your mind wander around this bizarre world and soak it in. There are a lot of images I won't soon forgot. I felt like the movie flew too. I was shocked that it was over when it was over. The time accelerated which is often not the case when you watch an artsy visual film. Quite enjoyed it.

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« Reply #37124 on: August 16, 2020, 05:46:50 AM »
I love Eraserhead, and yeah i agree the subtext doesn't seem to be so "sub", however in general with Lynch, i think it's a losing battle to try and eviscerate  the obvious symbolism or hidden meaning of things.

He quoted the classic line "I make movies, If you want to send a message, call Western Union" more than once after all.

This is true for all art, but i believe his stuff in particular is best appreciated at a raw level, just letting the images, sounds and (what is there of a) story transport you in his dreamscape of sorts.
Trying to translate them into "oh so the flamingo is a symbol for the inevitability of death" cheapens the experience, and art in general, is bogged down by hacky symbolism like that.
There's a deeper, spiritual experience to be had with art, that's dried up and lost with that kind of analysis, imo.

Another good point of his was in relations to people asking him about the meaning of things in his movies, and he essentially went on to say that he goes to great pains to translate his inner visions and ideas to the medium of cinema, and as soon as the movie is over, people want him to translate all of that back into plain words, which is impossible and frustrating.
The movie should speak for itself, and of course if that sort of cryptic storytelling frustrates you, he isn't the director for you.

But i think, on a very basic level, this applies to all art.

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« Reply #37125 on: August 16, 2020, 07:33:54 AM »
I guess whynotboth.gif though?

Like some art can be a sort of vague thing or extremely personal that can only be deciphered by the creator and everyone else is just along for the ride, or can can be very concrete where everything has a very specific purpose and is meant to be understood (or deciphered if it is hard to comprehend on the surface level).

But maybe I'm misunderstanding your post. Certainly there seems to be room for both and in between.
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Or maybe I should just mellow out. Though I am pretty mellow about it since I don't bump into people that would be enamored with the subjects in this doc.

Mmm, actually I think I know what it is. I'm like the goof in Almost Famous when he loses his mind over everything and becomes "only interested in what's real." Like yeah I think that's what rubs me the wrong way about the subject matter in the documentary.

In conclusion, annoying things are annoying.

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« Reply #37126 on: August 16, 2020, 07:58:58 AM »
I guess whynotboth.gif though?

Like some art can be a sort of vague thing or extremely personal that can only be deciphered by the creator and everyone else is just along for the ride, or can can be very concrete where everything has a very specific purpose and is meant to be understood (or deciphered if it is hard to comprehend on the surface level).

But maybe I'm misunderstanding your post. Certainly there seems to be room for both and in between.
Yes, naturally i don't mean to imply that every movie should be an absurd trip of abstractions like Lynch's weirdest ones, but even a Ken Loach will have to resort to the emotional drive of images and sounds when depicting his scenes, however grounded or dry.
Lynch is just at one extreme (though there are more extreme experimental films, even) of that scale, but the principle still is true, that beyond a movie's basic plot and message, there is a substantial layer of emotional resonance that is more primal, and i think that's largely where art lives, and what artists spend most of their time manipulating.
Personally i also find art that leaves the viewer enough room see find meaning into abstraction, paradoxically, i see it more emotionally profound.
It relates also to the idea of death of the author, no matter how much you want someone to interpret an imagery a certain way, different people will read different things in different way, and that's part of the magic.
Look Steve Huston touches on it here (starts at 58:55) a bit, i think he puts it quite well.

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« Reply #37127 on: August 16, 2020, 01:22:50 PM »
Watched Jackie Chan's The Tuxedo (first time since the theater) to digest wine. The movie loses a lot of steam after a fast paced first third. Too bad.

Fairly expensive and tasteful music selection tho (even excluding James Brown being there.)
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« Reply #37128 on: August 16, 2020, 05:18:21 PM »
As far as Eraserhead I'm fine with a movie having explicit deeper underlying meanings or not having those things. The reason why I brought it up in reference to Eraserhead is that in comparison to say Mulholland Drive which also has weird shit for weird shit sakes oftentimes, I think there is a certain symbolic language you can ascribe to that film even if not everybody agrees on what those symbols mean. Where as Eraserhead for me, was on initial viewing something I couldn't even begin to fathom symbolically.

But that's fine. The first time I saw 2001 I didn't understand a thing I saw. Then I talked to people and they described some of what they thought the messages and symbology meant and that actually increased my enjoyment of the film whether I necessarily agree with those views or not.

Even the bit Stro mentioned about his family is enlightening to a degree since I didn't know that.

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« Reply #37129 on: August 17, 2020, 12:37:14 AM »
Using my Shudder sub to catch up on a few things. Watched Blood Machines.

I went in not expecting anything besides cool music by Carpenter Brut and trippy color filter sci-fi visuals for an hour having seen the Turbo Killer music video and the trailer for Blood Machines.

It was...ok. It was a little slow tbh and I think it would've worked better at half the length and more of a music video thing like Turbo Killer. The sets and mecha designs were cool and everything was Evangelion. Wasn't bad, but think these guys either need to do a full 2 hour movie or stick to < 30 min music video shorts.

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« Reply #37130 on: August 18, 2020, 03:38:55 AM »
Finally watched Yorgos Lanthimos's Dogtooth. I've seen his other films, love The Favourite, like The Lobster, didn't care for Killing of a Sacred Deer.

This one was interesting, kinda one note concept, so thankfully it's only a bit over an hour, but good flow with weird uncomfortable and dark humor scenes. It was well done though I admit I was a little bored.

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« Reply #37131 on: August 18, 2020, 04:02:22 AM »
Finally watched Yorgos Lanthimos's Dogtooth. I've seen his other films, love The Favourite, like The Lobster, didn't care for Killing of a Sacred Deer.

This one was interesting, kinda one note concept, so thankfully it's only a bit over an hour, but good flow with weird uncomfortable and dark humor scenes. It was well done though I admit I was a little bored.
I liked his smaller scale movies, like Dogtooth and Alps.
Some argue something like The Lobster (which i still loved) goes on for too long, especially in the second half, and it's hard to fault that critique.

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« Reply #37132 on: August 18, 2020, 09:21:08 AM »
Another day, another 90's action movie doubleheader! The year 1996, the movies:

The Rock in the first 5 minutes, you see a marines face burn off due to exposure to VX gas with a somber music sting, then cut to Nicolas Cage wisecracking about being a beatle-maniac due to buying Meet the Beatles on vinyl for $600 (https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/a25y16/serious_question_what_pressing_of_meet_the/) - did someone say tonal whiplash? Also why is the car chase scene basically extreme closeups of Connery & Cages faces, with no real sense of speed? Anyway, maybe it's saying something about the way soldiers ate treated post-service mixed with the fetishism of gleeful violence (Tony Todd's character) but overall it has slow motion flare holding. good stuff.

unlike Broken Arrow which contains a finale were an unarmed nuclear warhead shoots into John Travolta while a train blows up. No, that isn't fun, the whole movie drags and looks & feels cheap (especially compared to The Rock).

Editors Note: I saw Broken Arrow at the cinema. My parents (being quite against Violence in movies) wanted me to see Jumanji instead. I should've listened to them.

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« Reply #37133 on: August 18, 2020, 09:39:05 AM »
I'm watching Tenet in 3 days. Suck it America

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« Reply #37134 on: August 18, 2020, 09:40:54 AM »
I'm watching Tenet in 3 days. Suck it America

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« Reply #37135 on: August 18, 2020, 09:45:27 AM »
It launches here next week but most cinema's are in high risk covid areas  :existential
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« Reply #37136 on: August 18, 2020, 09:48:57 AM »
I'm watching Tenet in 3 days. Suck it America

i live in melbourne, i'm not getting to a cinema until 2021?2?

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« Reply #37137 on: August 18, 2020, 09:51:21 AM »
I'm watching a cam of Tenet in 3 days and 3 hours. Suck it America.
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« Reply #37138 on: August 18, 2020, 09:53:21 AM »
I'm watching Tenet in 3 days. Suck it America

i live in melbourne, i'm not getting to a cinema until 2021?2?

No way do you know anyone named Daniel?

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« Reply #37139 on: August 18, 2020, 09:56:13 AM »
I'm watching Tenet in 3 days. Suck it America

i live in melbourne, i'm not getting to a cinema until 2021?2?

No way do you know anyone named Daniel?

seriously? yep, I know Daniel.