Author Topic: FABLE II thread and nothing more (Read 58855 times)

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #480 on:** April 01, 2009, 09:55:55 PM »

The real reward in Fable is the love of your family and the admiration of Albion.

/molyneux

Bildi · « **Reply #481 on:** April 02, 2009, 12:23:16 AM »

That's another thing - obviously I didn't expect to feel love for the dog (jesus christ Molyneux shut up about love in videogames), but as a dog lover IRL I'm surprised I have absolutely zero emotional attachment to the dog at all.

Mission failed miserably Lionhead.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #482 on:** April 02, 2009, 02:46:09 AM »

Nobody beats Oblivion.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #483 on:** April 02, 2009, 04:20:48 PM »

Wraithmarsh

The game has the best fantasy environments ever, by a wide margin no less, but it could really use some real mountain ranges.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #484 on:** April 02, 2009, 05:23:32 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on April 02, 2009, 04:20:48 PM

Wraithmarsh

The game has the best fantasy environments ever, by a wide margin no less, but it could really use some real mountain ranges.

I'd probably have to go with Planescape: Torment on this one.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #485 on:** April 02, 2009, 11:59:03 PM »

Bloodstone is nothing like I had expected it to be. I had imagined something truly seedy and vicious, but it's like any other town, only with prostitutes and assassins.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #486 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:27:13 PM »

So what's the difference between the free and the premium Knothole Island download?

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #487 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:43:55 PM »

The free version gives you a few useless teaser items.

demi · « **Reply #488 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:45:37 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on April 03, 2009, 05:27:13 PM

So what's the difference between the free and the premium Knothole Island download?

Free means you can play co-op with someone who actually bought it, but you yourself cant go to Knothole Island, I believe

duckman2000 · « **Reply #489 on:** April 03, 2009, 06:49:49 PM »

Ah. Is it worth the 800pts?

demi · « **Reply #490 on:** April 03, 2009, 06:56:19 PM »

Dunno

duckman2000 · « **Reply #491 on:** April 03, 2009, 08:49:46 PM »

Shittiest looking snowy environment ever

I want my 800pts back

duckman2000 · « **Reply #492 on:** April 04, 2009, 12:19:29 AM »

I believe I'm nearing the end of the game, and I think I see what you guys have been saying about it being small. Given the similarities between the (very nicely decorated) environments, how small the areas generally are between loading points and how little of the environments you can actually traverse, it feels more like a small county than a magical world. It's also oddly light on cool enemies like trolls. It feels like there should be more of the world available, which makes me suspect that this is going to be heavy on DLC.

Bildi · « **Reply #493 on:** April 04, 2009, 09:10:11 AM »

Knothole was kind of rubbish was it?

I must say I'm enjoying the game a bit more now that I've been around Wraithmarsh and Bloodstone a bit. Quite a lot of quests are popping up which is good.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #494 on:** April 04, 2009, 12:17:08 PM »

Finished it last night

spoiler (click to show/hide)

What a weird end game. The Perfect World bit was amazing, but then it all culminates with me not fighting the boss, but playing a damned music box at him? Good grief. And then there was some idiotic bit with Hammer where she talks about how great friends we are, which made no sense since I had spent very little time with her. I guess that's fat chicks for you. So yeah, weird ending.

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The game after the end is already proving to be a bit better, but with kick ass weapons already in my possession and with 3 spells already maxed out, there hasn't been much of a challenge, ever. I think that if you get into the whole village thing, with owning property and interacting with all villagers and townspeople, this would probably be a lot more satisfying. I still have Knothole to finish, but I doubt that's going to happen any time soon.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #495 on:** April 04, 2009, 11:47:04 PM »

You know, it really is fucking cheap how they attempt to make the world seem larger by simply adding hours to the travel times between sections. And it makes no fucking sense that there would be 20 or so hours of travel to a place that I can actually see from the other area. And honestly, these low-end enemies should be running the fuck away from me at this point, what with my renown, assassin's outfit and glowing weapons. Bring on the trolls.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #496 on:** April 05, 2009, 12:27:03 AM »

I'm glad I only paid $20 for this game.

Homemade Milk · « **Reply #497 on:** April 05, 2009, 06:09:09 AM »

good game, saved before taking the sex change potion then it auto saved, couldnt wear condoms for hookers anymore.

Bildi · « **Reply #498 on:** April 05, 2009, 07:14:50 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on April 04, 2009, 11:47:04 PM

And it makes no fucking sense that there would be 20 or so hours of travel to a place that I can actually see from the other area.

This gets me everytime I travel from Bowerstone Market to Bowerstone Old Town in particular where I can see it right in front of me yet arrive a couple of hours later. Brilliant!

Did the pirate ship quest last night and it was pretty neat. As usual, the reward was rubbish - $12,000 doesn't make much different when you're carrying millions around.

The co-op works pretty well in this game though, I played it a bit this weekend.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #499 on:** April 05, 2009, 09:22:48 PM »

I'd say the game is somewhat frontloaded, which I suppose has something to do with the sameness of environments and enemies. You get this "big" world to explore, except the actual explorable areas are strikingly similar from the last. Bower Lake being one of the prettiest areas in the game might be responsible, too. Not a bad game, but I don't think they really remedied many of the important shortcomings of the first game.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #500 on:** April 05, 2009, 09:28:58 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on April 05, 2009, 09:22:48 PM

I'd say the game is somewhat frontloaded, which I suppose has something to do with the sameness of environments and enemies. You get this "big" world to explore, except the actual explorable areas are strikingly similar from the last. Bower Lake being one of the prettiest areas in the game might be responsible, too. Not a bad game, but I don't think they really remedied many of the important shortcomings of the first game.

I agree with that. Fable II is a fun game to play for a while, but it never really overcomes the problems that plagued the first game.

-Worlds are MORE open, but still not THAT open.
-Interaction is more diverse, but still simplistic and very easy to master either way.
-Companion are still fairly useless.
-Marriage can produce offspring, but there's not much you can do with them.
-It's STILL not really allowing you to live the entire life of your hero. It's all in steps that stop short of old age and death.

Aside from its focus on a few key areas, it still not really that much different from any other action-RPG out there.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #501 on:** April 05, 2009, 09:53:38 PM »

I'll admit that I liked the dog. Not in a "that's a real dog for sure" sort of way, but it was a good companion. Of course, it was quite stupid when

spoiler (click to show/hide)

the dog died from a single gunshot, after having shrugged off full on troll beatings.

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Great Rumbler · « **Reply #502 on:** April 05, 2009, 10:02:30 PM »

Yeah, the dog was probably the best addition to the formula. He's helpful and never gets in your way.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #503 on:** April 06, 2009, 12:43:59 AM »

beat it tonight. boring game, fun at first though. on a technical level, it's pretty nasty. so many weird little problems with it.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #504 on:** April 06, 2009, 12:06:18 PM »

Lulz. Fable II is getting Zelda DLC.

http://www.lionhead.com/Fable2/SeetheFuture.aspx

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #505 on:** April 06, 2009, 12:11:40 PM »

New DLC sounds crappy, but at least it makes the Pub Game items available for everyone so that the completionist achievement is easier.

demi · « **Reply #506 on:** April 06, 2009, 04:30:07 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on April 06, 2009, 12:11:40 PM

New DLC sounds crappy, but at least it makes the Pub Game items available for everyone so that the completionist achievement is easier.

Yeah, you just have to, you know, buy more DLC

The point is that you should be able to get 1000 WITHOUT spending any more

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #507 on:** April 06, 2009, 05:09:13 PM »

Pretty sure the items are part of the free version of the DLC, you pay to get the new areas and missions.

chronovore · « **Reply #508 on:** April 06, 2009, 05:47:11 PM »

Quote from: duckman2000 on April 04, 2009, 12:17:08 PM

Finished it last night

spoiler (click to show/hide)
What a weird end game. The Perfect World bit was amazing, but then it all culminates with me not fighting the boss, but playing a damned music box at him? Good grief. And then there was some idiotic bit with Hammer where she talks about how great friends we are, which made no sense since I had spent very little time with her. I guess that's fat chicks for you. So yeah, weird ending.
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Actually, I liked Hammer quite a bit, and felt a little touched by her growth as a character. I was surprised there wasn't a path available to get busy with her, since you can boink just about anyone else in the game.

I didn't really mind the ending at all; it felt more heroic and "story-like" to be able to finish without having re-re-replay the boss battle a bazillion times. A friend of mind says he always makes the penultimate boss the really hard fight, and makes the final one challenging but not joystick-smashingly difficult.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #509 on:** April 06, 2009, 05:58:05 PM »

The problem is that there are no truly challenging fights leading up to it. Even that shard thing, I don't know, it was just a matter of killing off enemies with area spells and shoot the shard. It would have been cool if the game had pitted you against someone that was at least in some ways your equal. It felt a bit flat.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #510 on:** April 06, 2009, 06:29:05 PM »

Yeah, that end game was insanely distinguished mentally-challenged. I was like "hell yeah, gonna fight through that huge asylum again...wait it's over"

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #511 on:** April 06, 2009, 06:42:01 PM »

Quote from: demi on April 06, 2009, 04:30:07 PM

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on April 06, 2009, 12:11:40 PM
New DLC sounds crappy, but at least it makes the Pub Game items available for everyone so that the completionist achievement is easier.

Yeah, you just have to, you know, buy more DLC

The point is that you should be able to get 1000 WITHOUT spending any more

The pub game items are in the free version of the DLC. You don't have to buy anything to get them. You DO have to download a big file though. I agree that it's still fucking stupid. Just slightly less so now.

demi · « **Reply #512 on:** April 06, 2009, 08:22:26 PM »

Oh I didnt know the free version had the items too.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #513 on:** April 09, 2009, 11:03:00 AM »

strangely enough i've gotten back into this lately. There's something charming about a small girl calling me Nobhead

The Knothole DLC isn't anything great but it's some nice new quests with more puzzle solving. I like the whole different looks due to weather for the same area, it does lessen the impact of running around the same space over and over.

I've been trying to get all the properties and tie up some loose sub-quests. I still dont like the combat but everything else in the game is fine with me.

Some of these achievements are shit too.

Bildi · « **Reply #514 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:09:39 AM »

After 20-30 hours I'm really getting into this more. I was roaring towards the end but I stopped before the last mission and slowed down and it's been a lot more fun. And I've accepted I'm going to get those distinguished mentally-challenged will lines no matter what so have been going spell-crazy.

Bought Knothole last night, haven't really played it but the sunglasses I got are pretty neat so I'm happy. I'm kind of looking forward to the next DLC too, I want to get the DLC before I finish everything else in the game.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #515 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:11:26 AM »

The game becomes a whole nudge shittier when taking the ending into consideration, so the longer you can avoid that, the better.

Knothole was a stupid buy. Worst looking snow ever. :'(

Bildi · « **Reply #516 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:13:51 AM »

Cool, I'll keep avoiding the ending. Thanks.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #517 on:** April 10, 2009, 01:21:08 AM »

I did it the other way - got the shitty ending over with and then just stuffed around. Either way the less time you spend on the ending the better.

Bildi · « **Reply #518 on:** April 13, 2009, 11:50:25 PM »

I finished the game the other night, the ending was OK, but I was more interested in the extra couple of quests. Unfortunately I then accidentally reset the game while it was saving and corrupted the save file

So I started again and it's taken about 7-8 hours to get back to Bloodstone. At least this time I saved those dumbass monks so there was more property to buy in Oakvale.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #519 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:13:53 AM »

I destroyed oakvale, there was less stuff for me to buy.

I got the castle last night. Apparently I'm missing some proprerty somewhere because I didn't get all the properties achievement. Oh well, time to finish Knothole.

Bildi · « **Reply #520 on:** April 14, 2009, 01:38:13 AM »

The $2.5million worth of property achievement? I hit that once I bought the castle - I think I also owned the mansion in the cemetary and Garth’s castle in Brightwood in addition to the normal towns.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #521 on:** April 14, 2009, 05:31:33 AM »

no i got that one. isn't there an achievement for owning every property? not just the 2.5million? or am i wrong

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #522 on:** April 14, 2009, 11:48:27 AM »

Nope, just the 2.5M

pilonv1 · « **Reply #523 on:** April 14, 2009, 12:00:41 PM »

oh fuck that then.

Bildi · « **Reply #524 on:** April 16, 2009, 07:39:07 PM »

There should be, that'd be a kickass achievement.

chronovore · « **Reply #525 on:** April 17, 2009, 09:37:45 AM »

Quote from: Bildi on April 16, 2009, 07:39:07 PM

There should be, that'd be a kickass achievement.

It'd just be one more "find all the flags/gargoyles/pigeons" Achievement, except that it would have a money prerequisite. Disputable fun factor.

Actually, that brings up something that's been bothering me lately: playing JUST to get an Achievement has led to me doing less exploration and emergent gameplay tomfoolery JUST for fun.

There's nothing preventing you from owning all the property, and you would be able to claim more of a 100% completion that peeps with The Completionist... but without an Achievement associated with it, there's less drive -- right?

Bildi · « **Reply #526 on:** April 18, 2009, 04:09:08 AM »

I'm not much into fetch-quest or grinding achievements, they can be pretty dull. But this is the sort of thing you'd pretty much do when playing normally.

But it isn't hard to find all the property, and you don't have to grind to get enough money but invest it early on into property which then earns you enough for more property. I'd get a good sense of achievement from owning the whole land and what that involves (investing your funds and traversing all territories), so it strikes me as a good candidate for an Achievement.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #527 on:** April 18, 2009, 04:49:46 AM »

played my first co-op today, does one of you have to be a henchman or can you have two heros?

demi · « **Reply #528 on:** April 18, 2009, 04:51:08 AM »

The co-op guy has to be a henchman. There's only one hero when Fable is about YOUR story

At least that's what Molyneux said. Still, you get to keep all your powers anyway

pilonv1 · « **Reply #529 on:** April 18, 2009, 05:06:09 AM »

well it was my game and the other dude was the henchman. makes an easy game even easier

chronovore · « **Reply #530 on:** April 18, 2009, 11:50:09 PM »

I wasn't fond of the co-op camera; I thought there was a way to turn it off if you aren't playing local co-op but I couldn't find it (and I was very happy to have an option for local co-op, don't get me wrong).

pilonv1 · « **Reply #531 on:** April 19, 2009, 12:19:45 AM »

OH GOD YES

That fucking camera. Worst ever.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #532 on:** April 19, 2009, 01:58:55 AM »

The more I think about this game, the more I feel like it was basically shit. I can't think of a single thing it does well, and if you then add that to its many blatant flaws, it honestly can't be anything but shit. Shit with a good artistic sense and neat music, but that's about it.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #533 on:** April 19, 2009, 02:01:01 AM »

Agreed.

demi · « **Reply #534 on:** April 22, 2009, 08:04:05 PM »

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-2559-Fable-II-Updated-to-1350.html

pilonv1 · « **Reply #535 on:** April 22, 2009, 09:07:34 PM »

Quote

The Nutcracker 10
Score 25 groin shots, or see another Hero do so.

The Paramour 10
Make love 25 times, or see another Hero do so.

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The Gladiator 30
Score a total high score of 20,000 points or more in the Colosseum, or see another Hero do so.

More crucible? $:-\$

chronovore · « **Reply #536 on:** April 22, 2009, 09:50:38 PM »

I thought the nutcracker was already in there, but I guess I'm thinking of Saints Row 2.

Bildi · « **Reply #537 on:** April 22, 2009, 10:06:37 PM »

If it's been tracking my stats, I might get the first two already. Groin shots + sex FTW.

Bildi · « **Reply #538 on:** April 22, 2009, 10:13:06 PM »

I quite like all these achievements actually. The demon door one is especially cool and overdue. They should have added an achievement for getting a perfect run through the Crucible too.

Quote

The Nutcracker 10
Score 25 groin shots, or see another Hero do so.

The Paramour 10
Make love 25 times, or see another Hero do so.

The Concierge 30
Open all the Demon Doors in Albion, or see another Hero do so.

The Visionary 50
Take a look into the future, or see another Hero do so.

The Con Artist 25
Find all 10 of Murgo's statuettes, or see another Hero do so.

The Howler 10
Scare five people while dressed as a balverine, or see another Hero do so.

The Ghastly Jester 10
Make five people laugh while dressed as a hobbe, or see another Hero do so.

The Repugnant 10
Disgust five people while dressed as a hollow man, or see another Hero do so.

The Gladiator 30
Score a total high score of 20,000 points or more in the Colosseum, or see another Hero do so.

The Multiplicator 20
Achieve a multiplier of 10 or more in the Colosseum, or see another Hero do so.

The Combatant 20
Defeat the necromancer in the Colosseum, or see another Hero do so.

The Fowl Player 10
Dress as a chicken and kick five chickens during the Colosseum battles, or see another Hero do so.

The Colourist 15
Collect the dyes hidden in Murgo's magical items, or see another Hero do so.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #539 on:** April 23, 2009, 12:10:50 AM »

That's fuckin awesome, can you get them right now?

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