Author Topic: Evilbore's Official Political\Media Crap Thread (Read 54370 times)

Eric P · « **Reply #420 on:** December 01, 2008, 02:29:56 PM »

when obama formed his exploratory committee?

sounds fishy to me

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #421 on:** December 02, 2008, 12:06:07 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on December 01, 2008, 02:29:56 PM

when obama formed his exploratory committee?

sounds fishy to me

OBAMA RECESSION CONFIRMED, HANNITY VINDICATED

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #422 on:** December 02, 2008, 10:23:08 AM »

+1 Saxby

Gawd I feel dirty...

Cheebs · « **Reply #423 on:** December 02, 2008, 10:28:53 AM »

Why are you so worried about the 60 vote thing SD? The dems have 60 votes already. McCain, the two Maine republicans, and probably a handful of others will almost assuredly not side with the GOP on filibustering things like judicial appointments.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #424 on:** December 02, 2008, 03:01:31 PM »

McCain? Explain

y2kev · « **Reply #425 on:** December 02, 2008, 03:12:19 PM »

I can't understand how you could vote for Saxby and not feel like a piece of shit. The apocalypse could be the alternative. The dude is a scumbag and a shit senator on top of that.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #426 on:** December 02, 2008, 06:52:55 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/02/jon-stewart-msnbc-is-the_n_147629.html -- haha

Cheebs · « **Reply #427 on:** December 02, 2008, 07:15:12 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on December 02, 2008, 06:52:55 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/02/jon-stewart-msnbc-is-the_n_147629.html -- haha

whenever I watch MSNBC and they run that whole "Watch MSNBC and experience the power of change." thing I always cringe. So blatant.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #428 on:** December 03, 2008, 09:18:42 AM »

McCain and the Maine senators won't vote for things like Card Check.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #429 on:** December 03, 2008, 09:33:38 AM »

You're assuming that Card Check is going to be it's own separate bill, and not tacked on to some stimulus or budget bill.

You're also assuming that Card Check will magically destroy the country somehow, but then again you're a Republican so there you go.

Cheebs · « **Reply #430 on:** December 03, 2008, 09:37:35 AM »

The small republican minority won't keep it from passing for very long however. Their filibuster won't be able to hold on it long, their minority isn't strong enough. You can't honestly think the 41-42 GOP senators will be able to stop it from passing. Delay it a bit? Sure, but it will pass before the end of 2009 probably.

Even then who is the say, like said above, the Dems won't tack it onto another bill?

Remember Obama wants a nice big stimulus package on day one. The new stronger Dem majority is going to fill that bill with so many projects it's not even funny and the Republicans will have very little power to try and stop that.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #431 on:** December 03, 2008, 10:48:13 AM »

It may end up passing, but it'll be overturned by the Supreme Court.

Cheebs · « **Reply #432 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:23:52 AM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on December 03, 2008, 10:48:13 AM

It may end up passing, but it'll be overturned by the Supreme Court.

If it was guaranteed to be overturned by the Supreme Court Obama wouldn't sign the bill.

Eric P · « **Reply #433 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:24:38 AM »

card check?

the union thing?

is this really a concern?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #434 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:32:44 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on December 02, 2008, 06:52:55 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/02/jon-stewart-msnbc-is-the_n_147629.html -- haha

The comment section is so cringe worthy.

Eric P · « **Reply #435 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:33:56 AM »

liberals just can't take a joke

Cheebs · « **Reply #436 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:34:16 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on December 03, 2008, 11:24:38 AM

card check?

the union thing?

is this really a concern?

It shouldn't be. Who cares if unions don't want secret ballots. It isn't a government ran election, let them do what they want. Caucus's for primaries aren't private ballots and you don't see Republicans going batshit insane about it.

It all boils down to the GOP's dislike of unions. It has nothing to do with wanting private ballots.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #437 on:** December 03, 2008, 11:45:46 AM »

Quote from: Eric P on December 03, 2008, 11:24:38 AM

card check?

the union thing?

is this really a concern?

Only for the same type of people whose answer to any sort of economic problem is to cut the capital gains tax. So, in the reality based community, no it's not.

Side note: Bill Richardson totally looks better with the beard, he should grow it back as soon as he's confirmed.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #438 on:** December 03, 2008, 12:04:33 PM »

Taking away the secret ballot allows Unions to strongarm people into joining their ranks.

Its the only way they can reassert themselves in the 21st century. Without it, they will continue their decline as most relics of the past usually do.

Mandark · « **Reply #439 on:** December 03, 2008, 03:39:58 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on December 03, 2008, 11:24:38 AM

card check?

the union thing?

is this really a concern?

Card check causes MASSIVE heartburn on the right. siamesedreamer is pretty representative in this case.

While some moderate conservatives and business interests will support the new energy bill, the health care plan, and a stimulus package, card check will probably be the big litmus test.

To their credit it's a real life issue, unlike reconquista, Obama's upcoming gun ban, the fairness doctrine, Henry Waxman's tax surcharge, or Hillary squeezing out everyone from Obama's foreign policy team.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #440 on:** December 03, 2008, 03:48:46 PM »

You know why unions aren't so big right now, and why if card check becomes law they won't magically start running rampant everywhere?

People are lazy and don't give a shit. They want to clock in, do their shit for the first couple hours, then goof off online the rest of the day and finally go home, drink beer and fuck their wife/sister/dog. No one wants to have to worry about forming a union and trying to get leverage over management to wrangle concessions. The majority of the workers in America just don't give a shit about unions.

I say this despite the fact that I wholeheartedly believe in and support unions. But most Americans are too dumb and lazy to want to bother with them.

Eric P · « **Reply #441 on:** December 03, 2008, 03:53:24 PM »

to be fair, most of the stuff that unions and socialists fought for on behalf of the american worker are now law.

also, a lot of the work force has moved away from that industry labor as well.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #442 on:** December 03, 2008, 05:21:22 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on December 03, 2008, 03:48:46 PM

The majority of the workers in America just don't give a shit about unions.

That will change when the union goons start the beat downs, slashing tires, harrassing phone calls, etc., etc. cuz there's no longer a secret ballot and they know who's voting against them.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #443 on:** December 03, 2008, 05:24:38 PM »

Sounds pretty awesome.

Most Americans don't care about unions either way because a lot of people are either office jockeys or in retail and in both places, unions are practically unheard of.

Makes it pretty easy to hate unions though too. Many don't know or don't care just how their lives are better because of the sacrifices made by unionized labor and why they're not working 14 hour shifts in a shoe factory without breaks.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #444 on:** December 03, 2008, 05:41:57 PM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on December 03, 2008, 05:21:22 PM

Quote from: The Card Cheat on December 03, 2008, 03:48:46 PM
The majority of the workers in America just don't give a shit about unions.

That will change when the union goons start the beat downs, slashing tires, harrassing phone calls, etc., etc. cuz there's no longer a secret ballot and they know who's voting against them.

If you honestly believed that would be the result of card check, then you should be FOR it since that kind of thing would just polarize public opinion against unions.

Seriously, the wealth gap that's come about in the past 28 years is pretty good evidence that workers need SOMETHING to help combat management. Eventually people will have had enough and guillotines will be built on Wall St. and in wealthy neighborhoods everywhere. I'm assuming that's something you DON'T want, so perhaps these bold, fresh pieces of humanity known as CEOs would consider making only 200 times as much as the average worker in their companies as opposed to 500 times, then maybe their employees would feel less encouraged to tick "yes" on a card saying they shouldn't be fucked over so much.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #445 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:02:01 PM »

TBH, I wouldn't expect a large social uprising until Americans no longer have the ability to watch TV.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #446 on:** December 03, 2008, 08:11:20 PM »

or post on message boards, for that matter

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #447 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:03:34 PM »

And under the bus he goes!

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Sources tell ABC News that officials on the Obama Transition Team feel that before he was formally offered the job of commerce secretary, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson was not forthcoming with them about the federal investigation that is looking into whether the governor steered a state contract towards a major financial contributor.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/01/obama-team-feel.html

Not forthcoming or they just didn't do their homework?

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #448 on:** January 04, 2009, 06:32:19 PM »

Gosh you just grasp for straws don't you

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #449 on:** January 04, 2009, 07:24:45 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 04, 2009, 06:32:19 PM

Gosh you just grasp for straws don't you

You best get used to it because it is going to be this way for the next 4-8 years.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #450 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:02:01 AM »

I'd take an Obama witch hunt any day over any repub American nation fuck over.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #451 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:03:58 AM »

Hopefully the GOP will hinge a lot of their strategy on "exposing" Obama, which pretty much guarantees a second Obama term and further marginalization of the GOP. Would be nice to have a Democratic supermajority for a couple of Congressional terms.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #452 on:** January 05, 2009, 12:06:25 AM »

Fear and division

Cheebs · « **Reply #453 on:** January 05, 2009, 09:14:39 AM »

sd....

It's so weird seeing conservatives run around like chicken's with their head cut off. They seem to have absolutely no idea how to oppose Democrats or what to oppose them on and seem like a petty un-organized mess. The economic crisis really seems to make them confused about how they can react. A complete turn from the very organized talking points style of the party just 2-3 years ago. I honestly can't see how they'll be able to pick themselves up again in time for 2012. Run as the NOBAMA party in 2012, please it will make things so much easier.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #454 on:** January 05, 2009, 01:48:38 PM »

I seem to remember something about a culture of corruption and the promise of the most ethical Congress in history. Funny how such things are so easily discarded. Anyway, Clinton's confirmation hearing is gonna be a blast:

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A developer in New York state donated $100,000 to former President Bill Clinton's foundation in November 2004, around the same time that Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton helped secure millions of dollars in federal assistance for the businessman's mall project.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/04/americas/clinton.php

Obama's bus is still warm...

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #455 on:** January 05, 2009, 02:50:27 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on January 05, 2009, 01:50:01 PM

4 years of Republicans having seizures over everything=

Indeed. Brings back fond memories of the 90's and "EVERYTHING IS CLINTON'S FAULT! BLOWJOBS!"

Also, the MN Supreme Court just denied one of Norm Coleman's petitions, so it's looking more and more likely that sd and his crowd will have a new favorite whipping boy in Senator Al Franken.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #456 on:** January 05, 2009, 03:19:08 PM »

I'm sure Franken will supply plenty of ammo.

Someone really needs to kill the 3rd party guy who gave Franken the election though.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #457 on:** January 05, 2009, 03:21:47 PM »

Eh, Minnesota's weird as hell when it comes to politics. Remember, this is the state that has given us Hubert Humphrey, Walter Mondale, and Paul Wellstone, but also Norm, Michelle Bachmann and let us never forget, Gov. Jesse The Body Politic. So if Barkley hadn't been in, there's really no way to guess how it would have played out.

Cheebs · « **Reply #458 on:** January 06, 2009, 08:14:57 AM »

Uh Obama won more states than McCain, A LOT more. At least 10. That guy made up his numbers.

Eric P · « **Reply #459 on:** January 06, 2009, 09:05:01 AM »

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/whats_the_deal_with_prof_joseph_olsons.html

sigh

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #460 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:06:46 PM »

Quote

President-elect Barack Obama's appointed successor was turned away when he appeared at the U.S. Capitol to take his seat. Roland Burris announced the decision to deny him the seat as he stood before a large throng of reporters and cameras in the rain outside the Capitol building. Speaking just an hour before the convening of the 111th Congress Tuesday, Burris said he was looking at a host of options for getting the seat.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=2009-01-06_D95HO4MO0&show_article=1&cat=breaking

Shades of mid-60's George Wallace.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #461 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:08:26 PM »

wow, and people will believe that without a percent of hesitation

edit: SD

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #462 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:18:46 PM »

I'm already sick of this guy.

He was on Rachel Maddow yesterday blaming his supporters for injecting race into this and acting like he had nothing to do with it.

Cheebs · « **Reply #463 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:52:46 PM »

This wannabe-senator guy from Ill. is annoying every time I see him on tv. I want him to go away forever. He seems to be somehow both a giant egomaniac and boring at the same time.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #464 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:54:27 PM »

So Obama just stated they're forcasting trillion dollar deficits for years to come.

I suspect we'll reach a debt level of 100% of GDP by the end of his first term (if not sooner).

Eric P · « **Reply #465 on:** January 06, 2009, 01:55:53 PM »

if only the republican majority hadn't had their hands tied by those darn democrats!

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #466 on:** January 06, 2009, 02:11:55 PM »

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #467 on:** January 06, 2009, 02:14:35 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #468 on:** January 06, 2009, 02:18:19 PM »

bubububu war time

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #469 on:** January 06, 2009, 03:19:02 PM »

Looks like Obama and his DEM majority are gonna annihilate those records.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #470 on:** January 06, 2009, 03:24:06 PM »

I guess congress has no say in those spending habits.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #471 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:18:12 PM »

Bombzaldroppen?

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President-elect Barack Obama took big money from a man at the center of a federal probe that has forced one of Obama's top Cabinet picks to withdraw.

Financial records show the Obama campaign got more than $30,000 from California financier David Rubin, the target of an investigation into donations and possible "pay-to-play" deals involving New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, Obama's pick for commerce secretary.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Politics/story?id=6586275&page=1

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #472 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:21:51 PM »

Enron donated $600,000+ to Bush's 2000 campaign. This isn't even comparable.

Still, it is pretty naive for there not to be a degree of corruption for the Democrats. The shiny eyed hope and change crew, maybe. I would add Republicans in there too except that even if the Democrats were free of corruption, they'd still piss and moan anyway so fuck them. As much as I'd want corruption free, I'd rather have a small degree than a massive one. Thanks to Enron's big donation, the Bush administration did fuck all in California until Congress had to step in and force price caps. I doubt this guy would do a similar amount of damage or even a proportional one.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #473 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:57:19 PM »

everyday brings more meh obama news

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #474 on:** January 06, 2009, 07:10:40 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2009/01/06/roesgen.obama.restaurant.review.cnn

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #475 on:** January 07, 2009, 11:02:32 AM »

Quote from: T EXP on January 06, 2009, 06:21:51 PM

Still, it is pretty naive for there not to be a degree of corruption for the Democrats.

There are reports that this investigation also involves Ed Rendell as well as DEM state and local officials in IL, CA, FL, and PA.

Could be their Abramoff equivalent scandal.

demi · « **Reply #476 on:** January 07, 2009, 04:52:57 PM »

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/07/porn-industry-seeks-federal-bailout/

:'(

treythemovie · « **Reply #477 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:19:40 PM »

I see SD is the same as always

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #478 on:** January 07, 2009, 08:46:47 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 07, 2009, 04:52:57 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/07/porn-industry-seeks-federal-bailout/

:'(

Brehvolution · « **Reply #479 on:** January 07, 2009, 09:29:29 PM »

Quote from: demi on January 07, 2009, 04:52:57 PM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/07/porn-industry-seeks-federal-bailout/

:'(

To be fair, they have been taking it the ass for years.

News:

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