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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #240 on: January 23, 2009, 02:46:05 AM »
Wow its really happening:
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What, he's finally contacting Batman?

Batman is going to be Secretary of Closing Gitmo



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« Reply #241 on: January 23, 2009, 08:15:07 AM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/23/arts/music/23band.html?_r=2&hp

I actually thought to myself how incredible it was that they were playing so well in freezing weather. smh...

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #242 on: January 23, 2009, 10:27:06 AM »
The Obama facade is quickly crumbling....

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #243 on: January 23, 2009, 11:31:07 AM »
Is Gitmo really going to be closed, or will Obama just say hey I tried but the republicans didn't want change. Plus I can't help but think it's dangerous: if an attack occurs, he'll be blamed for freeing terrorists regardless of whether that had any influence on it.
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« Reply #244 on: January 23, 2009, 12:16:13 PM »
The Obama facade is quickly crumbling....
Based on what exactly? I can't think of a single thing he hasn't done in his first 3 days in offices that go against his campaign promises. Hell he has been pushing through his campaign promises at a far faster rate than Bush or Clinton did.

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« Reply #245 on: January 23, 2009, 12:16:43 PM »
From the ACLU newsletter today:
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With four executive orders today, our new President:

    * Ordered Guantánamo Bay shut down
    * Banned torture
    * Ordered a full review of U.S. detention policies and procedures, and
    * Delayed the trial of Ali al-Marri, an ACLU client whose case is at the center of the Supreme Court’s review of indefinite detention policies.

God Damn, looks like the next 4 years is going to be FILLED with awesome.

In times like these, we need Jack Bauer more than ever.

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« Reply #246 on: January 23, 2009, 12:30:42 PM »
From the ACLU newsletter today:
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With four executive orders today, our new President:

    * Ordered Guantánamo Bay shut down
    * Banned torture
    * Ordered a full review of U.S. detention policies and procedures, and
    * Delayed the trial of Ali al-Marri, an ACLU client whose case is at the center of the Supreme Court’s review of indefinite detention policies.

God Damn, looks like the next 4 years is going to be FILLED with awesome.

In times like these, we need Jack Bauer more than ever.
Under President Obama Bauer would be rotting in jail probably lol.

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« Reply #247 on: January 23, 2009, 01:40:18 PM »
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« Reply #248 on: January 23, 2009, 01:43:41 PM »
President Obama apparently has ordered a un-manned drone air strike of certain parts of Pakistan . hahah wtf


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/23/terror/main4749317.shtml

7 were killed.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #249 on: January 23, 2009, 01:45:21 PM »
 :-\
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #250 on: January 23, 2009, 01:48:24 PM »
i still don't get why they used the bible instead of the koran.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #251 on: January 23, 2009, 01:49:53 PM »
Yeah, I probably flipped too much, but the fucker doesn't explain wtf he means.  It's frustrating.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #252 on: January 23, 2009, 02:51:48 PM »
Yeah, I probably flipped too much, but the fucker doesn't explain wtf he means.  It's frustrating.

Pheonix Dark scolded me when I bitched about Dax on EB  :'(

jk, PD just pointed out that the kid is like 15.  But so is Green Man and he's a way better poster then fucking Dax.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #253 on: January 23, 2009, 03:47:09 PM »
The guy is fucking 15?  Wow, never fucking mind.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #254 on: January 23, 2009, 04:17:04 PM »
ha ha ha you got trolled by a 15 year old. maybe you should cut your beard as punishment
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« Reply #255 on: January 23, 2009, 04:22:24 PM »
Dax always asks the most meaningless questions just to ask questions in poligaf. It is so weird.

And he isn't 15. He is like about to turn 18 I think.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #256 on: January 23, 2009, 04:25:47 PM »
I'm pretty sure he's 16
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #257 on: January 23, 2009, 04:42:19 PM »
My favorite dax posts running up to the election in poligaf were, "I just got back from school. What did I miss?" Some people did summaries at first, then they were like "dude, you ain't amir0x. Read up yourself."

He never did that again.
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« Reply #258 on: January 23, 2009, 04:46:18 PM »
He asks a lot of questions where there is NO WAY the answer would be at all useful to him but he asks them anyway. Like if poligaf is discussing some new exec. order from obama he always pops in and asks something useless like "oh what time did he sign it?" "was sitting in his desk?" or something.

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« Reply #259 on: January 23, 2009, 04:50:10 PM »
Dax sux. Most of poligaf sucks though.  
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« Reply #260 on: January 23, 2009, 04:51:38 PM »
It's better now than when 80% of the posts were poll numbers.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #261 on: January 23, 2009, 04:56:22 PM »
It's better now than when 80% of the posts were poll numbers.

Haha, not really. Polls have been replaced by live blogging TDS or Fox news.





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« Reply #262 on: January 23, 2009, 05:00:05 PM »
It's better now than when 80% of the posts were poll numbers.

Haha, not really. Polls have been replaced by live blogging TDS or Fox news.





The amount of liveblogging of FoxNews is amazing. I wonder what type of ratings it'd get if all the liberals who have a persecution complex stopped watching it. I never got that. You don't see right-wingers religiously watch Keith Olbermann just so they have more reasons to hate him. It's odd.

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« Reply #263 on: January 23, 2009, 05:02:34 PM »
Olberman maybe the bane of the right wing, but he doesn't intentionally mislead or outright lie.
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« Reply #264 on: January 23, 2009, 05:06:40 PM »
I never really got into his show, I don't like watching someone yell and rant even if I agree with him. I rather watch Maddow who is waaaay more level headed and has lots of republicans on her show.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #265 on: January 23, 2009, 06:24:06 PM »
Ugh, facebook has become horrible in the last couple of days.  Just read this:

"FUCKFACE thinks obama is a dumfuk i dont want to spend my own mony on dumasses who want abortions"

jesus  :-\

needless to say, I deleted him.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #266 on: January 23, 2009, 06:26:48 PM »
I'm stealing that status.  It's fucking brilliant.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #267 on: January 23, 2009, 06:32:37 PM »
Living in Ohio, I get a shitload of people with status updates like that:

"God Bless George Bush, history will vindicate you!"
"getting shopping done before barak sends in the terrists :)"
"ashamed of my faschist president..."
"who fucking likes this communist?"---noted, the last two were from the same person
"god, he needs assinated (spelled exactly like that"

ugh.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #268 on: January 23, 2009, 06:38:23 PM »
he does need assinated :hump
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #269 on: January 23, 2009, 07:21:24 PM »
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"ashamed of my faschist president..."

that's actually a better spelling than the more common "facist", though, as it makes more sense (especially given the wrong, but understandable, supposition of the word's German origin he's probably made).

edit: in fact that IS how it's rendered in German apparently.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #270 on: January 23, 2009, 07:38:57 PM »
Living in Ohio, I get a shitload of people with status updates like that:

"God Bless George Bush, history will vindicate you!"
"getting shopping done before barak sends in the terrists :)"
"ashamed of my faschist president..."
"who fucking likes this communist?"---noted, the last two were from the same person
"god, he needs assinated (spelled exactly like that"

ugh.

you sure you dont live in Michigan?

im pretty sure you live in Michigan

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #271 on: January 23, 2009, 07:47:06 PM »
they're pretty much the same
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #272 on: January 23, 2009, 08:09:17 PM »
next time ask them what fascist means, and what socialist means while you're at it.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #273 on: January 23, 2009, 08:58:42 PM »
whats this racist shit.
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« Reply #274 on: January 23, 2009, 09:01:31 PM »
no shit, I always thought that it was spelled "facist". good lookin out recursive
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #275 on: January 23, 2009, 09:51:43 PM »
next time ask them what fascist means, and what socialist means while you're at it.



I just delete them, they aren't worth arguing with.  They're convinced that Obama is still a terrorist.
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« Reply #276 on: January 23, 2009, 09:57:32 PM »
I wouldn't blame Ohio, Obama won Ohio by a solid margin. You just have some fucked up friends.

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« Reply #277 on: January 23, 2009, 09:58:45 PM »
And come on? MI hate? Michigan has been against Bush and co. for a lot longer than the rest of the country.

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« Reply #278 on: January 23, 2009, 10:03:00 PM »
I still want to know how he found anyone like that to be friends with. There are people who are under 30 who like Bush? I didn't even realize that was possible. Other than crazy religious christian conservatives. And if you hang out with those crowds.... :-\

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« Reply #279 on: January 23, 2009, 10:14:05 PM »
i always assumed he meets a lot a shithead fratboys
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« Reply #280 on: January 23, 2009, 10:21:38 PM »
i always assumed he meets a lot a shithead fratboys
That's even worse.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #281 on: January 23, 2009, 11:07:37 PM »
I'm just one of those guys who used to accept pretty much anyone who friend requested me on facebook from my high school, but I've learned the hard way to not do that.  These were not ever my friends.

And yes, I WOULD blame Ohio, at least the part I'm from.  It's a middle-class town with trust fund kiddies who believe everything their parents tell them and don't open up to new ideas.  The worst cases believe, yes, that Bush was a great president.

And yes, the irony of it all is that these kids became fratboys and have gained like 60 lbs already.

And Michigan and Ohio are hardly different.
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« Reply #282 on: January 23, 2009, 11:20:22 PM »
And Michigan and Ohio are hardly different.
Politically? Seeing how that is what the topic is they are. Obama won MI by a lot more than he did in OH, and Bush won OH both times he ran. Democrats carried MI both times. MI is a lot more democratic than OH.

Although I live in Ann Arbor so what I see it skewed. US News & World Report called it one of the 5 most liberal friendly cities in the country and pot is decriminalized...etc. So I see MI through a different lense than most of the state.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #283 on: January 23, 2009, 11:21:45 PM »
what a fucking weirdo. rubix cubes.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #284 on: January 23, 2009, 11:24:44 PM »
Meh, tt's all anecdotal for me.  From what I've experienced in the middle-to-upper class communites of both Ohio and Michigan, the majority of kids who can't even fucking vote yet will tell you how Obama's letting in the turrists.

and yeah, wtf at rubix cubes.  Whatever guy out there who doesn't even watch the fucking Super Bowl is wacky.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #285 on: January 23, 2009, 11:27:23 PM »
makes a rule and then waives it for someone the next day

obama lol
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« Reply #286 on: January 23, 2009, 11:59:21 PM »
 From what I've experienced in the middle-to-upper class communites of both Ohio and Michigan, the majority of kids who can't even fucking vote yet will tell you how Obama's letting in the turrists.


The white under 25 group was one of Obama's strongest voting blocks, yes in OH as well. You live in bizarro land.


and yes rubix cubes.  :lol poor kid. I bet he wears a pocket protector.

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« Reply #287 on: January 24, 2009, 12:04:01 AM »
Here we go, from CNN:

Ohio (18-24):
Obama: 61%
McCain: 38%

Michigan (18-24):
Obama: 67%
McCain: 30%

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« Reply #288 on: January 24, 2009, 12:14:25 AM »


get it away get it away
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #289 on: January 24, 2009, 12:17:00 AM »
It is kind of refreshing to have some competent leadership.  However, I'm so used to it being so subpar that this is kind of a new experience for me.

I know a lot of under 25 people that are Republicans.  They're not Jesus freaks or really rich people.  A lot of it has to do with their parents.  If their parents are Republicans, there is a decent chance the kids will be too.  Mostly social factors.  Then you got the upper middle class kids that think they're going to be millionaires that bitch about taxes holding them back from being a millionaire.
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« Reply #290 on: January 24, 2009, 12:23:52 AM »
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« Reply #291 on: January 24, 2009, 12:47:38 AM »
It is kind of refreshing to have some competent leadership.  However, I'm so used to it being so subpar that this is kind of a new experience for me.

It's amazing, isn't it? We spent the last 8 years under a president who makes previous disgraces look 'Not That Bad' in comparison.

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« Reply #292 on: January 24, 2009, 12:54:15 AM »
Marty Lederman, who's blogged about the Bush admin torture and detention policies over the last few years, has gotten a job in the Obama administration.

He'll be Deputy Assistant Attorney General in the Office of Legal Counsel, which is John Yoo's job.  Yoo is a huge bete noir of the left and a top 5 Worst Living American, so this gets a bajillion good symbolism points.

Lederman's written as much and as well about the legal issues of torture as much as anyone, whereas John Yoo thinks the president should be allowed to crush all the innocent, underage testicles he wants.

Also, one of the executive orders says that the government can't rely on any legal opinions given from 2001-2008 on torture, basically retconning away all the damaging bullshit written by Yoo, David Addington, and the rest of the assholes.

Fuckin sweet.

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« Reply #293 on: January 24, 2009, 01:18:53 AM »
A lot of it has to do with their parents.  If their parents are Republicans, there is a decent chance the kids will be too.  Mostly social factors. 

Children are likely to absorb their parents' political affiliations, regardless of what those affiliations are--this isn't simply a Republican thing. The same is true with their political ideologies, but this is strongly influenced by genetic factors.
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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #294 on: January 24, 2009, 01:28:03 AM »
Also, one of the executive orders says that the government can't rely on any legal opinions given from 2001-2008 on torture, basically retconning away all the damaging bullshit written by Yoo, David Addington, and the rest of the assholes.

holy damn that is awesome.  can i get the source?
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« Reply #295 on: January 24, 2009, 01:58:45 AM »
Also, one of the executive orders says that the government can't rely on any legal opinions given from 2001-2008 on torture, basically retconning away all the damaging bullshit written by Yoo, David Addington, and the rest of the assholes.

holy damn that is awesome.  can i get the source?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/EnsuringLawfulInterrogations/

Quote from: Executive Order
(c)  Interpretations of Common Article 3 and the Army Field Manual.  From this day forward, unless the Attorney General with appropriate consultation provides further guidance, officers, employees, and other agents of the United States Government may, in conducting interrogations, act in reliance upon Army Field Manual 2 22.3, but may not, in conducting interrogations, rely upon any interpretation of the law governing interrogation -- including interpretations of Federal criminal laws, the Convention Against Torture, Common Article 3, Army Field Manual 2 22.3, and its predecessor document, Army Field Manual 34 52    issued by the Department of Justice between September 11, 2001, and January 20, 2009.

I honestly didn't expect so much early action in this area.  Obama's campaign was run mostly on bread-and-butter issues and he wasn't exactly Russ Feingold in the Senate.  Plus you never bet on politicians voluntarily giving up power.

But the early signals about detainee policy and transparency have been really, really good.  Time will tell yadda yadda, but still.  Good times.

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #296 on: January 24, 2009, 03:30:41 AM »
It's better now than when 80% of the posts were poll numbers.

Haha, not really. Polls have been replaced by live blogging TDS or Fox news.





The amount of liveblogging of FoxNews is amazing. I wonder what type of ratings it'd get if all the liberals who have a persecution complex stopped watching it. I never got that. You don't see right-wingers religiously watch Keith Olbermann just so they have more reasons to hate him. It's odd.

It's not odd. Fox News has been feeding the hate and ignorance cycle which typified the reigning party of the last eight years. When liberals wanted to know why the rest of America was acting in such a reactionary manner, usually there was one good place to check. We had been looking for reasons why things were such utter shit.

In contrast, there was no real reason why right-wing needed to know what liberals were thinking at all. They had control over all three branches of government, and the most popular news sources supported their worldview. Why ask questions?

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #297 on: January 24, 2009, 10:07:27 AM »
Man, it is terrible to think just how far to the right Bush was of Nixon.

A lot of it has to do with their parents.  If their parents are Republicans, there is a decent chance the kids will be too.  Mostly social factors. 

Children are likely to absorb their parents' political affiliations, regardless of what those affiliations are--this isn't simply a Republican thing. The same is true with their political ideologies, but this is strongly influenced by genetic factors.

I agree but people were asking why there is a good number of young Republicans.
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« Reply #298 on: January 24, 2009, 10:28:53 AM »
makes a rule and then waives it for someone the next day

obama lol

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Re: so, Obama is president
« Reply #299 on: January 24, 2009, 10:55:19 AM »
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President Obama told the Republican lawmakers that "you can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done."
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/01/61847002/1





on a related note, to remind you all that rush limbaugh is a hate-filled idiot loon:
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What I’m afraid of is that what Obama did with this executive order is actually make it easier for the media to go get Bush documents. Because you know Pelosi and some of the guys over in Congress are talking about war crimes trials and charges and so forth. […]

What I’m afraid of is what Obama’s done here is made the gathering of the information for this kind of stuff– This is not American. This is not America. This is not what America does. We don’t– This is Banana Republic kind of stuff.
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