Those of us from rural south know how to handle toilet paper shortage. Eat more corn on the cob! The corn isn't important, but the cobs are free and work great! (Just don't flush them!) You're welcome!
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I just find it funny that everyone seems oblivious to the fact or is too afraid to admit that the Tea Party is fueled by thinly veiled racism.
well, who shapes the talking points?
Yea there's no public option but it's not like insurance companies are breaking out the champagne for this bill either. They know the jig is up soon.
Quote from: Eric P on March 22, 2010, 06:22:38 PMwell, who shapes the talking points?jews
NEW YORK, March 22 (Reuters) - Shares of Medicaid insurers, hospital companies and even drugmakers rose on Monday as many investors concluded that passage of landmark U.S. healthcare legislation will add millions of new paying patients.The S&P Health Care Sector index .GSPA was up nearly 1 percent on Monday, outpacing the broader market, after the U.S. House of Representatives gave final approval to a sweeping overhaul late on Sunday night. [ID:nN22144256]Shares of hospital companies such as Community Health Systems (CYH.N) and health insurers such as Amerigroup (AGP.N) that focus on Medicaid plans for the poor led the increases. Analysts expect those companies to benefit as the reform package extends coverage to 32 million Americans.
Politics seems like wrestling to me at this point. The Republicans enjoy playing the heel, but behind the stage, both Democrats and Republicans are best friends. Both are owned by corporate interests - this watered down health care reform bill is evidence of just that.All this red state/blue state nonsense is less about substance and trying to fight for particular ideologies, but rather manufactured noise created to widen the rift and keep people oblivious to the fact neither party really wants to do anything to help their actual constituencies.
Obama has said he'd support immigration reform, no clue what that would entail.I went through hell to get my wife here.
"Well, he should have had insurance," I can hear some right wing asshole out there saying. Yeah, he shoulda. Except, even if he'd had the money to buy a policy, no insurance company would ever have issued one for him. He's had a pre-existing condition since childhood.
Update: Lawrence O'Donnell on "Countdown" just reported that the Senate Parliamentarian has ruled against the GOP on what they thought would be their "silver bullet" argument, the impact of the excise tax on Social Security revenues.
http://www.gop.com/firepelosi/That is on the official website of the Republican National Committee. Gotta love the Satanic flames around Pelosi.
I have never seen conservatives and liberals so divided . . . in beliefs, not values. On the one hand, there are people like the TNR crew, and Jonathan Bernstein, Andrew's guest-blogger, who seem to think that this it's the next best thing to a done deal. Meanwhile, all the conservatives and libertarians I know think that it's pretty much hopeless, because Pelosi can't get it through an increasingly rebellious House. To our jaded eyes it looks as if everyone who can is looking for an excuse not to vote for a bill that is unpopular with their constituents. The opinions on both sides seem so confident, and so incompatible, that one group of people is clearly borderline delusional. I don't see how they can be right--even if passing health care makes the party better off (I'm doubtful), it does not improve the fortunes of members in conservative districts who do not get much mileage out of their affiliation with the Democratic Party (and will get even less mileage if they are seen as enabling unpopular legislation).But of course, borderline delusional people don't think they're delusional, or else they wouldn't be delusional. So there you are: either it's a done deal, or it's dead. There's no longer much middle ground in between.
I think she's pretty cute, personally.
true story. one of my friends used to date her.she was bug fuck crazyi knew she worked at the economist and she blogged under the name jane galt. but i never put the connection together until just now with your post.
Quote from: Eric P on March 23, 2010, 09:15:33 AMtrue story. one of my friends used to date her.she was bug fuck crazyi knew she worked at the economist and she blogged under the name jane galt. but i never put the connection together until just now with your post.Haha, that's awesome. I feel validated to hear she was crazy, which is probably wrong on my part.Always got the sense that Yglesias, Klein, et al treated her with kid gloves cause they had something of a crush on her.
If I don't want to acquire health insurance, all I have to do is die.
Fact is, a lot of the things that would cause you to need medical care aren't really your fault. No one's personal health is an island. If you catch a communicable disease and need medical care, that's not really your fault. If you were born with some kind of condition, that's not your fault. If you get cancer because of toxins/chemicals/radiation in your workplace or the environment, that's not really your fault. If you get hit by a car or if you're involved in an accident in any way other than being the at-fault driver... you see where this is going. It's pretty easy to see that health care funding should come from the society, not from the individual.Granted there are things that make you more of a health risk, and obviously there should be ways of extracting additional revenue from those things. Smokers and drinkers already pay a pretty hefty tax on their indulgences. I'd be in favor of a fast-food and soda tax as well.In any case, one way or another, everyone in society is going to pay for people's health care. This can be achieved through a taxpayer funded, government run system; a system like the one we're about to implement in the U.S., or you can just let people wait until their conditions deteriorate to the point where they need emergency-room care, and then let everyone who does pay for medical care subsidize these people.Either way, the notion that every single person in a country should be responsible for his/her own medical care is pretty outdated and reeks of social Darwinism and a Randian-level of disconcern for one's fellow man.