"A black sheriff?!": The Official Topic of Obama and New Era American Politics

[Cheebo]

Except Romney has no backbone at all. He makes the wishy-washy Obama look tough by comparison.

Romney will crack to the TeaParty crackpots in Congress at every single opportunity.

You won't be "eh Romney won't be so bad" when he signs every insane whim of the GOP in Congress into law because he no viewpoints of his own. Can you really see him standing up to them? They will walk all over him.

Romeny would be tolerable with a Dem controlled congress like when he was governer of MA but he'll have a GOP house and senate if he wins, ones ruled by the Tea Party.

[TakingBackSunday]

Some asshole last night tried to argue with me that the health care bill in 2009 or 10 was never actually presented to congress.

I...what.

[drew]

they should be worried about the war we're in that never got congressional approval

[Dickie Dee]

I like how TARP is somehow magically Obama's, even though it was passed in 2008 before he was elected, much less sworn in.  Pretty soon 9/11 will be his fault somehow too.

Well someone is to blame

[TakingBackSunday]

they should be worried about the war we're in that never got congressional approval

dur hur drew coming in the thread spouting the same moronic shit again

[Human Snorenado]

LIBYA = VIETNAM DON'T YOU GUYS SEEEEEEEE

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149666/Majority-Sees-Obama-Performing-Worse-Bush.aspx
herp a derpp

http://www.gallup.com/poll/149612/Voters-Considering-Romney-Obama-Perry.aspx

Chelsea Clinton 2016

[Boogie]

they should be worried about the war we're in that never got congressional approval

The war that the US has had almost no hand in after the first couple weeks?

That war?

[Mandark]

I like how TARP is somehow magically Obama's, even though it was passed in 2008 before he was elected, much less sworn in.  Pretty soon 9/11 will be his fault somehow too.

They've already changed the article

I talked to someone the other day who assured me that the bailout and the stimulus were voted for at the same time.

The fact that they know TARP and the stimulus are two different things probably puts them above the 50th percentile in terms of political awareness.  Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!

[Phoenix Dark]

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/a-look-at-politifact-grades-of-candidates/

Bachmann

[Phoenix Dark]

oh shit

Walker Spokesman Given Immunity In Investigation -- Has No Comment

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker's (R) spokesman, plus two supporters, have now been granted immunity in the ongoing campaign finance investigation of former aides to Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R), from Walker's time as Milwaukee County Executive.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/walker_spokesman_given_immunity_in_investigation_-.php?ref=fpblg
details at the link

hmmm

[Boogie]

http://gwynnedyer.com/2011/libya-is-force-an-instrument-of-love/

It was the decision by France and Britain to commit their air forces to the defence of the rebels in eastern Libya that saved them from being overrun by Gaddafy’s forces in the early days of the revolt. Other Western countries sent combat aircraft to join them (although the United States drew back after the first few days), and Gaddafy’s army was stopped just short of Benghazi.

lol, drew

[Human Snorenado]

ILLEGAL ACT OF WAR

DEPOSE THIS TYRANT

[Boogie]

Wait, what do you think "drew back" means there, Boogie?

USA: Okay, we dropped a bunch of bombs.  'tis all yours now, Europe!  Have fun for the next six months!

[Boogie]

Well, that's definitely not the case.  Do you need me to post links or do you got this?

Naw, go nuts if I'm wrong.  I admit I've taken it somewhat for granted based on what I had read that Europe took point for the majority of the operation after the first few weeks.

[drew]

dur hur drew coming in the thread spouting the same moronic shit again

believe me it looks the same way from where i'm sitting

[Boogie]

dur hur drew coming in the thread spouting the same moronic shit again

believe me it looks the same way from where i'm sitting

aww, you changed it.

Was the Kosovo air strike campaign in '99 a "war"?

Was lobbing a few cruise missiles at Sudan and Afghanistan following the 98 embassy bombings a "war"?

Was enforcing the No-fly zone over Iraq from 1991 to 2003 a "war"?

[Boogie]

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/23/a-look-at-politifact-grades-of-candidates/

Bachmann

It's pretty fucked up that any of our candidates and/or elected officials blatantly lie. Like, I feel everyone just says "oh well, that's what politicians do." Why is it basically just accepted?

because:

[youtube=560,345]RuqFkbLkST4[/youtube]

[drew]

and then the little speech that followed was full of logical fallacies

Drew, believe me when I say this.  No one is going to touch intervention in Libya because it would take one of the most important Supreme Court cases in decades to figure it all out, which might call in question the legality of the war powers act etc.  It's a non-starter.

i know, i know, it's just frustrating because it's so fucked up and nobody seems to care

aww, you changed it.

 

[MrAngryFace]

I think libs are just as frustrated that Cheney is running around...at all- what an asshole.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/herman-cain-wins-shocker-at-presidency-5-straw-poll.php?ref=fpa

[Human Snorenado]

That's awesome, because the only person in that field who might really be dumber than Perry and Bachmann is in fact Herman Cain. 

[Van Cruncheon]

That's awesome, because the only person in that field who might really be dumber than Perry and Bachmann is in fact Herman Cain. 

no it's not, because the people dumber than perry/bachmann/cain are THE AMERICAN VOTING PUBLIC :'(

[MrAngryFace]

That's awesome, because the only person in that field who might really be dumber than Perry and Bachmann is in fact Herman Cain. 

no it's not, because the people dumber than perry/bachmann/cain are THE AMERICAN VOTING PUBLIC :'(

[AdmiralViscen]

It is truly a great point. Native americans have had it so easy.

[Van Cruncheon]

i don't see a problem with this

[Eric P]

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

[Mandark]

I suppose it would be gauche to point out that the racist Ron Paul newsletters and his supporters' complete lack of concern about them might be just a tiny bit relevant to this?

[Phoenix Dark]

technically shouldn't the good ole' boy network warrant at least a $1 discount for white males?

[Mandark]

I wonder if the racial ordering on that sign was picked at random, or whether they were trying to get across a particular message.  I guess we'll never know!

[Mupepe]

 

[Van Cruncheon]

of course they'd list white people first since whitey can actually pay

[Mandark]

The best outcome woulda been if a bunch of black students just took the pastries and dared them to enforce property rights without a central authority supported by taxation.  Then the college Republicans would have been left stammering about miniarchism and night watchman functions while their strudels and danishes were redistributed to the swarthy proletariat.

[Brehvolution]

There is no discount. All pastries are the same price. What the minorities and women don't pay, the government subsidizes. The republicans just do this to cause division while laughing all the way to the bank.

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/26/opinion/frum-broken-government/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

[Great Rumbler]

http://www.playspent.org/

[Phoenix Dark]

David Frum is like my third or fourth favorite Jew 

[Human Snorenado]

David Frum is like my third or fourth favorite Jew 

Whatever, despite all his "today's gop is intellectually bankrupt" crap he still jerks off to the Bush tax cuts and thinks taxing the job creators more will destroy society or something.

[Positive Touch]

David Frum is like my third or fourth favorite Jew 

smfh

that dude lives and breathes douche.  yeah he criticizes current repubs, but that's because he wants them to be more like 90's & early 00's repubs

[Phoenix Dark]

and he's quite the hardcore pro-Israel type, but I love me some articulate republicans 

[Human Snorenado]

and he's quite the hardcore pro-Israel type, but I love me some articulate republicans 

That's like saying Obama speaks well or some shit.  It's pointless and kind of insulting.

[Van Cruncheon]

and he's quite the hardcore pro-Israel type, but I love me some articulate republicans 

That's like saying Obama speaks well or some shit.  It's pointless and kind of insulting.

NO WAI

triumph just got maur-iced!

[Phoenix Dark]

  smh triumph

anyhoo, republicans back down from hostage taking once everyone realizes they have no hostage
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/senate-averts-government-shutdown-threat-funds-fema.php?ref=fpblg

[tiesto]

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/09/herman-cain-wins-shocker-at-presidency-5-straw-poll.php?ref=fpa

"Godfather's Pizza"? LOL, what's next, "Mandingo's Fried Chicken"?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

lulz

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/business/health-insurance-costs-rise-sharply-this-year-study-shows.html?_r=1

[Great Rumbler]

Insurance is one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated against the American public.

[Phoenix Dark]

Insurance companies are jacking prices before the healthcare bill goes into effect - not surprising. Although obviously some of the raise is due to children being added to their parents insurance; Kaiser just released a study showing it had a 1-2% impact on costs.

Also it looks like the SC will decide on the health care law next year. Should be fun!

[MrAngryFace]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/#44694768

God damnit GOP is fuckin evil

[Phoenix Dark]

ACORN

[drew]

itt obama try's to act black in front of black audience

[youtube=560,345]HeoOg3Fj0G0[/youtube]

[MrAngryFace]

As a whole the speech was well recieved but he did seem to get off script a little there. I think if anything it made people kind of confused- there is a bit of truth to the idea that democrats can easily be the instruments of their own defeat as they are critical w/consequences, whereas the conservative base will be critical and just make you go away for a while, then you'll come back and write a book.

[Phoenix Dark]

What does "act black" mean?

That wasn't even the most fiery part of the speech.

[Great Rumbler]

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[MrAngryFace]

What does "act black" mean?

That wasn't even the most fiery part of the speech.

It's when people do 'that neck thing'

[drew]

What does "act black" mean?

the conscience decision to drop the g's at the end of words

[Phoenix Dark]

So you mean a Southern drawl, which transcends race. fuckouttahere

[Great Rumbler]

What does "act black" mean?

the conscience decision to drop the g's at the end of words

Wait...that means I act black every day.

[drew]

so you're saying that the president, who did not live in an area of southern dialect in his formative years, speaking to a crowd that lacks any sort of regional binding to it's description or of it's members, spoke in a southern drawl for a bit in a way to connect with the audience.  gee maybe, just maybe there's another group of people apart from southerners who tend to drop their g's (not to mention the waist of their pants!)  a group which is far more likely given the situation.

[Phoenix Dark]

so you're saying that the president, who did not live in an area of southern dialect in his formative years, speaking to a crowd that lacks any sort of regional binding to it's description or of it's members, spoke in a southern drawl for a bit in a way to connect with the audience.  gee maybe, just maybe there's another group of people apart from southerners who tend to drop their g's (not to mention the waist of their pants!)  a group which is far more likely given the situation.

A large portion of the CBC are from southern states. Furthermore the southern drawl within the black community is not restricted by region since many black people have roots/family in the south regardless of where they live - go to any black church and you'll hear it. Not surprisingly, when Obama speaks to largely black audiences he utilizes the speech patterns of a black preacher. As does Bill Clinton and some other democrats who do it effectively.

Guess what, changing tone based on audience isn't a black exclusive thing. Many groups in America speak differently amongst each other.

[drew]

A large portion of the CBC are from southern states. Furthermore the southern drawl within the black community is not restricted by region since many black people have roots/family in the south regardless of where they live - go to any black church and you'll hear it. Not surprisingly, when Obama speaks to largely black audiences he utilizes the speech patterns of a black preacher. As does Bill Clinton and some other democrats who do it effectively.

Guess what, changing tone based on audience isn't a black exclusive thing. Many groups in America speak differently amongst each other.

as it turns out, some lady named Karen Hunter seems to think that there's something inherently racist with the correct transcribing of that speech:

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/associated-press-transcription-obama-cbc-speech-racist-173438340.html

inherently racist? well then that must mean that dropped g's are inherently tied to stereotypical black dialect.  if not, then Mrs. Karen Hunter herself must be a racist for suggesting such a thing! below is a sultry photo of the woman in question.

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