Author Topic: MLB Offseason Thread - Pitchers and Catchers Report! (Read 46218 times)

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #180 on:** February 17, 2009, 05:59:45 PM »

Also why hasnt GAF unbanned me yet, I mean I did correctly predict the WS.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #181 on:** February 17, 2009, 06:00:00 PM »

I mean the 2008 baseball season

pollo · « **Reply #182 on:** February 17, 2009, 06:11:04 PM »

sylar join the eb fantasy league

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #183 on:** February 17, 2009, 06:11:51 PM »

link it up.

You guys should talk to wellington and get me unbanned or let me post in MLB GAF only for this next season

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #184 on:** February 17, 2009, 06:14:30 PM »

Oh you have to PM him, but lepers can't pm

pollo · « **Reply #185 on:** February 17, 2009, 06:15:24 PM »

what's the point. half of mlb gaf is banned and the good posters are here anyway

unless you're really dying for 2 and a half months of frankwoman's anime

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #186 on:** February 17, 2009, 06:18:59 PM »

No one posted here last year once the season started

Plus I was gyped out of 2 ban bets on Malek and Y2Kev's heads.

eznark · « **Reply #187 on:** February 18, 2009, 08:07:43 AM »

YEAH!! Brewers brought back Gagne!!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #188 on:** February 18, 2009, 03:20:09 PM »

http://www.wsbtv.com/sports/18739891/detail.html

What the fuck is up with Griffey? Is he trying to drag this out to make it look he really wanted to play for Seattle again or something?

Ganhyun · « **Reply #189 on:** February 18, 2009, 03:55:31 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on February 18, 2009, 03:20:09 PM

http://www.wsbtv.com/sports/18739891/detail.html

What the fuck is up with Griffey? Is he trying to drag this out to make it look he really wanted to play for Seattle again or something?

A comment on the site speculates that Griffey is possibly trying to use the Braves to milk the Mariners for a little bit more, or vice versa.

Either way, just get this over with. Its getting tiresome to see the daily, getting more frequent, conflicting reports.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #190 on:** February 18, 2009, 04:01:02 PM »

I honestly don't care either way, because if we have Griffey he's likely to be injured most of the time and platooning when he's not, and if we don't get him it's not like there's anyone else out there that we can pursue at this point. Should have spent five million on Abreu, stupid cheap ass Liberty Media spending half a billion on Sirius XM...

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #191 on:** February 18, 2009, 05:04:08 PM »

Yeah that shit pissed me off. Fuck Liberty and fuck Selig.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #192 on:** February 18, 2009, 06:19:22 PM »

I'm glad i'm not a fan of the mariners. That way I don't have to jerk off to paying money for our mascot.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #193 on:** February 18, 2009, 08:36:15 PM »

Wow, Griffey is coming back to Seattle...

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #194 on:** February 18, 2009, 08:47:21 PM »

Haha, that's hilarious. So, this offseason, the following has happened to the Braves:

-screwed up trading for Jake Peavy after he said the Braves were one of the teams he'd go to (this admittedly is more the fault of Padres GM Kevin Towers, who had unrealistic expectations on what he could get for Peavy)
-failed to sign AJ Burnett. He ended up signing with the Yankees for less than 1 million/year average than the Braves offered him.
-failed/screwed up signing Rafael Furcal, who ended up going back to the Dodgers for 1 million more per year than the Braves offered
-lost Smoltz to the Red Sox when we wouldn't guarantee him 5 million (can't say I really blame us all that much on that one)
-didn't sign ANY outfielders even after they became dirt cheap. there's really no excuse for not signing Bobby Abreu to a one year deal worth 5-6 million when he signed for less than that.
-lost out on signing Griffey, which again I don't really mind but it would have been SOMETHING

4th place here we come.

Ganhyun · « **Reply #195 on:** February 18, 2009, 08:54:44 PM »

So, MLB.com is hinting that the AJC story that broke yesterday played a part in the decision to go back to Seattle.

Quote

Griffey's negotiations with the Braves were moving at a steady pace until Tuesday afternoon, when the veteran outfielder learned of a report in The Atlanta-Journal Constitution which indicated he'd already decided to play in Atlanta.

Since then, Griffey had limited contact with the Braves.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #196 on:** February 18, 2009, 09:05:21 PM »

I was wondering about that. The Mariners weren't saying anything at all until it became official. Maybe that helped in our favor?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #197 on:** February 18, 2009, 09:59:12 PM »

Mariners president Chuck Armstrong is on Seattle Sports Radio KJR right now. Apparently Harold Reynolds and Willie Mays were instrumental in getting Griffey to sign with Seattle.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #198 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:00:49 PM »

Well fuck, where the hell was Hank Aaron? Fucking Braves.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #199 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:06:10 PM »

I hear the Mariners are also trying to sign Willie Mays and Hank Aaron.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #200 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »

And Pete Rose.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #201 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:07:50 PM »

Quote from: Malek on February 18, 2009, 10:06:10 PM

I hear the Mariners are also trying to sign Willie Mays and Hank Aaron.

They'd be better than 85% of our team in their current condition!

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #202 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:08:37 PM »

God damn it. Fuck Wren. I was gonna buy a Griffey jersey too. $:-\$

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #203 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:09:27 PM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on February 18, 2009, 10:08:37 PM

God damn it. Fuck Wren. I was gonna buy a Griffey jersey too. $:-\$

My old Griffey jersey from junior high school doesn't fit anymore, I will definitely go out and get a new one!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #204 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:10:55 PM »

Quote from: siamesedreamer on February 18, 2009, 10:08:37 PM

God damn it. Fuck Wren. I was gonna buy a Griffey jersey too. $:-\$

You should get a Kawakami jersey, I bet he can talk to the suburbs.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #205 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:13:55 PM »

I bet he can't speak english.

pollo · « **Reply #206 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:19:56 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on February 18, 2009, 10:07:50 PM

Quote from: Malek on February 18, 2009, 10:06:10 PM
I hear the Mariners are also trying to sign Willie Mays and Hank Aaron.

They'd be better than 85% of our team in their current condition!

dont tell bluemax or he's going to UZR your ass.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #207 on:** February 18, 2009, 10:27:15 PM »

Quote from: pollo on February 18, 2009, 10:19:56 PM

Quote from: distantmantra on February 18, 2009, 10:07:50 PM
Quote from: Malek on February 18, 2009, 10:06:10 PM
I hear the Mariners are also trying to sign Willie Mays and Hank Aaron.

They'd be better than 85% of our team in their current condition!

dont tell bluemax or he's going to UZR your ass.

I'm a lifelong diehard M's fan, I've been there for them in good years and all the horrible ones. No one should be kidding themselves, we're not a good team. We have some great components, but they're not working together.

Grecco · « **Reply #208 on:** February 19, 2009, 09:50:07 AM »

Good riddance to Old Man Griff

Trade for Swisher and go for it.

pollo · « **Reply #209 on:** February 23, 2009, 04:45:38 AM »

2 more days till spring training games! who else is excited

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #210 on:** February 23, 2009, 09:23:43 AM »

Ugh, Garret Anderson.

Grecco · « **Reply #211 on:** February 23, 2009, 11:39:53 AM »

Waste of 2.5million.

pollo · « **Reply #212 on:** February 23, 2009, 12:46:14 PM »

could be worse, you could have gotten Griffey

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #213 on:** February 23, 2009, 01:06:05 PM »

Might as well get Kenny Lofton.

Grecco · « **Reply #214 on:** February 24, 2009, 08:58:25 AM »

Quote from: pollo on February 23, 2009, 12:46:14 PM

could be worse, you could have gotten Griffey

Griff can at least hit a homer once in a while. anderson cant even do that.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #215 on:** February 24, 2009, 09:01:25 AM »

Set my DVR to tape the spring training game on tv tomorrow.

:fistpump

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #216 on:** February 24, 2009, 05:46:44 PM »

Did a roto mock draft for shits n' giggles, read 'em and weap ladies.

C Brian McCann
1B Carlos Delgado (ew, a Met)
2B Robinson Cano
3B Evan Longoria
SS Jimmy Rollins
OF Jermaine Dye
OF Jayson Werth
OF Rick Ankiel
UT Pat Burrell
BN Yunel Escobar
BN Clint Barmes
BN Mark Teahen

SP Brandon Webb
SP Roy Halladay
SP Derek Lowe
SP Gil Meche
RP Joe Nathan
RP Jose Valverde
RP Brian Fuentes
RP Trevor Hoffman
RP Grant Balfour

pollo · « **Reply #217 on:** February 25, 2009, 09:57:36 AM »

I feel like my mind is stuck in 2006. I can't seem to will myself to draft players like Scott Baker, Liriano or Nolasco just cause.
1. David Wright (NYM - 3B)
2. Lance Berkman (Hou - 1B)
3. CC Sabathia (NYY - SP)
4. Kevin Youkilis (Bos - 1B,3B)
5. Roy Halladay (Tor - SP)
6. Nate McLouth (Pit - OF)
7. Jay Bruce (Cin - OF)
8. Scott Kazmir (TB - SP)
9. James Shields (TB - SP)
10. Joey Votto (Cin - 1B)
11. Milton Bradley (ChC - OF)
12. Mike Aviles (KC - 2B,SS)
13. Chris Young (SD - SP)
14. Matt Garza (TB - SP)
15. Jorge Posada (NYY - C)
16. Heath Bell (SD - RP)
17. Joel Hanrahan (Was - RP)
18. Fausto Carmona (Cle - SP)
19. Yunel Escobar (Atl - SS)
20. Kenshin Kawakami (Atl - SP)
21. Shaun Marcum (Tor - SP)

Yahoo mock drafts suck. Holy shit, would it kill them to have more than 10 rooms drafting per hour?

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #218 on:** February 25, 2009, 10:02:56 AM »

I dunno if I would touch Milton Bradley. All of his nagging day-to-day injuries are a pain in the ass.

pollo · « **Reply #219 on:** February 25, 2009, 10:58:48 AM »

and his numbers were probably inflated in that sandbox huh. good point.

I value good hitters despite their potential risk. Here's another one:

1. Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B,3B)
2. Carlos Quentin (CWS - OF)
3. Manny Ramírez (LAD - OF)
4. Jake Peavy (SD - SP)
5. Roy Halladay (Tor - SP)
6. Chipper Jones (Atl - 3B)
7. Ryan Ludwick (StL - OF)
8. Ryan Doumit (Pit - C)
9. James Shields (TB - SP)
10. Mike Aviles (KC - 2B,SS)
11. Chris Young (SD - SP)
12. Adrián Béltre (Sea - 3B)
13. Matt Garza (TB - SP)
14. Erik Bedard (Sea - SP)
15. Chien-Ming Wang (NYY - SP)
16. Frank Francisco (Tex - RP)
17. Plácido Polanco (Det - 2B)
18. Orlando Hudson (LAD - 2B)
19. Jair Jurrjens (Atl - SP)
20. Jose Arredondo (LAA - RP)
21. Fausto Carmona (Cle - SP)

They had a run on fucking closers so I was stuck with Arredumbo and Frank Francisco. I accidentally drafted Hudson thinking someone else had drafted Polanco. Stupid.

My pitchers are stocked though.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #220 on:** February 25, 2009, 11:15:09 AM »

Take a good hard look at Shin Soo Choo. From the All-Star break on last year, he was top 5 in OPS for the entire league. Early reports is that he is still smoking balls in practice and inter-squad games. I think he is still way under the radar for most fans and you should be able to get him late in the draft.

I dunno about Carmona. His K rate is way down, he has control issues and he came into camp overweight. But if you can get him as your last pick, it's worth a shot.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #221 on:** February 25, 2009, 02:28:45 PM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 25, 2009, 11:15:09 AM

Take a good hard look at Shin Soo Choo. From the All-Star break on last year, he was top 5 in OPS for the entire league. Early reports is that he is still smoking balls in practice and inter-squad games. I think he is still way under the radar for most fans and you should be able to get him late in the draft.

I'm still upset we traded him away.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #222 on:** February 25, 2009, 02:44:02 PM »

Andy Marte cleared waivers today.

Wow. Has a top 20 prospect ever fallen so fast?

I'm so sick of talking about the guy, I wish he would go away. Now he will be taking AB's away from guys in Columbus.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #223 on:** February 25, 2009, 02:49:49 PM »

Who'd we get for him again? Edgar Renteria? Well, Rents had a couple of good seasons for us, and then we turned him into Jair Jurrjens.. Seems worth it!

Grecco · « **Reply #224 on:** February 25, 2009, 03:58:25 PM »

I think Andy is a lot older than he says he is.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #225 on:** February 25, 2009, 08:07:48 PM »

Did another mock draft.

1. Ryan Howard (Phi - 1B)
2. Jimmy Rollins (Phi - SS)
3. Brandon Phillips (Cin - 2B)
4. Vladimir Guerrero (LAA - OF)
5. Jake Peavy (SD - SP)
6. Geovany Soto (ChC - C)
7. Mariano Rivera (NYY - RP)
8. Chad Billingsley (LAD - SP)
9. Ervin Santana (LAA - SP)
10. Bobby Abreu (LAA - OF)
11. José Valverde (Hou - RP)
12. Jayson Werth (Phi - OF)
13. Mike González (Atl - RP)
14. Zack Greinke (KC - SP)
15. Heath Bell (SD - RP)
16. Torii Hunter (LAA - OF)
17. Jorge Cantú (Fla - 1B,3B)
18. Trevor Hoffman (Mil - RP)
19. Felipe López (Ari - 2B,3B,SS,OF)
20. Shin-Soo Choo (Cle - OF)
21. Delmon Young (Min - OF)

Think I've got a more balanced offense from this one.

Grecco · « **Reply #226 on:** February 26, 2009, 12:05:37 AM »

yeah. better team overall

Ganhyun · « **Reply #227 on:** February 26, 2009, 12:08:42 PM »

Quote from: The Card Cheat on February 25, 2009, 08:07:48 PM

Did another mock draft.

1. Ryan Howard (Phi - 1B)
2. Jimmy Rollins (Phi - SS)
3. Brandon Phillips (Cin - 2B)
4. Vladimir Guerrero (LAA - OF)
5. Jake Peavy (SD - SP)
6. Geovany Soto (ChC - C)
7. Mariano Rivera (NYY - RP)
8. Chad Billingsley (LAD - SP)
9. Ervin Santana (LAA - SP)
10. Bobby Abreu (LAA - OF)
11. José Valverde (Hou - RP)
12. Jayson Werth (Phi - OF)
13. Mike González (Atl - RP)
14. Zack Greinke (KC - SP)
15. Heath Bell (SD - RP)
16. Torii Hunter (LAA - OF)
17. Jorge Cantú (Fla - 1B,3B)
18. Trevor Hoffman (Mil - RP)
19. Felipe López (Ari - 2B,3B,SS,OF)
20. Shin-Soo Choo (Cle - OF)
21. Delmon Young (Min - OF)

Think I've got a more balanced offense from this one.

Hope batting avg or batter strikeouts are not counted in ur league.

A friend and I play in a league with all that stuff set. Makes having someone like Howard hurt as much as help.

Ganhyun · « **Reply #228 on:** February 27, 2009, 09:05:58 AM »

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/02/26/dodgers.ramirez.ap/index.html

hmm... I wish Manny realized how much this hurts his public image to keep rejecting these offers, especially in this economy. Or is this more Boras trying to get Manny a contract like Tex considering he used Manny to jack Tex's price up.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #229 on:** February 27, 2009, 09:22:00 AM »

You make the mistake of thinking Manny cares.

Ganhyun · « **Reply #230 on:** February 27, 2009, 09:34:29 AM »

Quote from: ToxicAdam on February 27, 2009, 09:22:00 AM

You make the mistake of thinking Manny cares.

This is true. It IS Manny.

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #231 on:** February 27, 2009, 07:49:38 PM »

My league had its draft last night. But, I was unable to participate in the first 10 rounds or so because of class. Had my buddy pick for me until I got out. Instructed him to only pick the best available pitcher each round. Figured there are a lot less good pitchers than hitters and the strategy would allow me to trade for hitters later. Keep in mind this is a 14 team league, so the talent is a lot more spread out. Somehow though nobody wanting pitching. My staff is sick.

SP Daisuke Matsuzaka BOS (keeper from last season)
SP Jake Peavy SD
SP Rich Harden CHC
SP Chad Billingsly LAD
SP John Lackey LAA
SP Matt Garza TB
SP Andy Sonnanstine TB
SP Tommy Hanson ATL
RP Joe Nathan MIN
RP Francisco Cordero CIN

C Bengie Molina SF
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia TEX
1B Prince Fielder MIL (keeper from last season)
2B Chase Utley PHI (keeper from last season)
SS Ryan Theriot CHC
3B Carlos Guillen DET
OF Andre Ethier LAD
OF Nelson Cruz TEX
OF Delmon Young MIN
OF Jeff Francoeur ATL
OF Jordan Schaffer ATL

Any recommendations?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #232 on:** February 27, 2009, 08:18:29 PM »

Get rid of Hanson and Schaefer asap is my recommendation. They'll be taking up roster spots until mid-season at best, might as well find someone else willing to take a flier on them and get something (anything) useful in return.

Other than that, for a 14 team league that's a pretty good team. Roto or head to head?

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #233 on:** February 27, 2009, 10:29:06 PM »

Its head to head.

You're probably right about those two. I may just get rid of Jordan though.

Grecco · « **Reply #234 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:35:24 PM »

Id get rid of Frenchy myself.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #235 on:** February 27, 2009, 11:42:22 PM »

Quote from: Grecco on February 27, 2009, 11:35:24 PM

Id get rid of Frenchy myself.

Meh, it's a 14 team league and Frenchy is his 4th OF. Plus it's not like he could be WORSE than last year... right? Right?

$:-\$

siamesedreamer · « **Reply #236 on:** February 28, 2009, 10:38:06 AM »

That's what I'm banking on.

It'll be interesting to see how long he lasts if he gets off to a rough start though.

pollo · « **Reply #237 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:19:25 PM »

Jeter grounding into a DP. Typical.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #238 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:21:09 PM »

Griffey's back in an M's uniform! Got a walk from the Aussie pitcher.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #239 on:** March 04, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »

Quote from: distantmantra on March 04, 2009, 09:21:09 PM

Griffey's back in an M's uniform! Got a walk from the Aussie pitcher.

Did he pull a hamstring trotting to first?

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Author Topic: MLB Offseason Thread - Pitchers and Catchers Report! (Read 46218 times)