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« Reply #120 on: March 04, 2009, 01:54:25 PM »
Reviews are pouring in.  Consensus?

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« Reply #121 on: March 04, 2009, 01:58:34 PM »
Reviews are pouring in.  Consensus?

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Triumph vindicated, as always.  I'll be seeing a noon showing on Friday for confirmation, tho.  Then I can go no yer queer podcast and talk all kinds of shit to you about Watchmen, the Oscars and shitty Transformers.
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« Reply #122 on: March 04, 2009, 02:05:21 PM »
It's still riding the certified fresh line on RT.
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« Reply #123 on: March 04, 2009, 02:09:31 PM »
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« Reply #124 on: March 04, 2009, 02:52:44 PM »
With actual critics, most of whom have journalism degrees, it's at 33%.
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« Reply #125 on: March 04, 2009, 03:01:14 PM »
With actual critics, most of whom have journalism degrees, it's at 33%.

I wonder what Travers is going to say about it.  He's usually right on about stuff, with some notable exceptions.
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« Reply #126 on: March 04, 2009, 03:06:29 PM »
I think Peter Travers is an epic tool; almost all mediocre films from the 90s have a quote from him on the back of the VHS box.

And we will never invite you on our show - we don't tolerate haters of Transformers!  Except my two co-hosts. :'(
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« Reply #127 on: March 04, 2009, 03:07:18 PM »
I think Peter Travers is an epic tool; almost all mediocre films from the 90s have a quote from him on the back of the VHS box.

And we will never invite you on our show - we don't tolerate haters of Transformers!  Except my two co-hosts. :'(

Well William, one man's mediocre film is another man's Transformers.
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« Reply #128 on: March 04, 2009, 03:07:48 PM »
Travers is ridiculous

it's like he was a schmaltz liqour alcoholic.

didn't he love patch adams?
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« Reply #129 on: March 04, 2009, 03:10:30 PM »
Travers is ridiculous

it's like he was a schmaltz liqour alcoholic.

didn't he love patch adams?

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The Robin Williams comedy "Patch Adams" gave the company the biggest hit among the Christmas Day openings. Since Dec. 25, it has grossed $66 million in spite of mostly terrible reviews, including one by Rolling Stone's critic, Peter Travers, who declared it the worst film of 1998.

The shit that Travers is usually wrong about is big studio stuff that is blatantly obvious to anyone with a brain that it really sucks.
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« Reply #130 on: March 04, 2009, 03:11:16 PM »
i must have been thinking of someone else or some other film
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« Reply #131 on: March 04, 2009, 03:11:43 PM »
Well William, one man's mediocre film is another man's Transformers.

I give this comment four stars (... out of a thousand).

I will still invite you on the show, but only as a Professional Transformers Hater.
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« Reply #132 on: March 04, 2009, 03:12:35 PM »
well seeing as 300 is sitting at 60% and this is 68%, and seeing as 300 is amazing this movie can only be more amazing.
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« Reply #133 on: March 04, 2009, 03:13:30 PM »
well seeing as 300 is sitting at 60% and this is 68%, and seeing as 300 is amazing this movie can only be more amazing.

Truly you are a master in the transitive art of bullshit, sir.
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« Reply #134 on: March 04, 2009, 03:14:41 PM »
it's simple math and science, dude. you can't argue it.
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« Reply #135 on: March 04, 2009, 03:15:40 PM »
what's the formula behind your horrible taste concerning skinny breastless women?
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« Reply #136 on: March 04, 2009, 03:16:25 PM »
what's the formula behind your horrible taste concerning skinny breastless women?

What's the formula behind your obsession with flabby assed women and cheeseburgers?
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« Reply #137 on: March 04, 2009, 03:17:36 PM »
Watchmen is kind of a sacred cow when it comes to my comic book and graphic novel collection.  I was so pumped for this adaptation and now I'm debating whether or not to even see it at this point.  If I go make the trek to the theaters this weekend to see it, it's only for discussion material when Eric P and I record our next podcast.
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« Reply #138 on: March 04, 2009, 03:18:04 PM »
what's the formula behind your horrible taste concerning skinny breastless women?

there's no formula when it comes to perfection.
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« Reply #139 on: March 04, 2009, 03:18:22 PM »
what's the formula behind your horrible taste concerning skinny breastless women?

What's the formula behind your obsession with flabby assed women and cheeseburgers?

I'll take either over Fistfull's "women" anyday of the week :punch
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« Reply #140 on: March 04, 2009, 03:23:32 PM »
what's the formula behind your horrible taste concerning skinny breastless women?

What's the formula behind your obsession with flabby assed women and cheeseburgers?

I'll take either over Fistfull's "women" anyday of the week :punch

Spoken like somebody who's never fucked anyone before.  Body type doesn't mean shit as far as what they'll do in bed, at least in real life anyhow.
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« Reply #141 on: March 04, 2009, 03:24:37 PM »
That's why Triumph and I bag old ladies! :punch
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« Reply #142 on: March 04, 2009, 03:24:59 PM »
Watchmen is kind of a sacred cow when it comes to my comic book and graphic novel collection.  I was so pumped for this adaptation and now I'm debating whether or not to even see it at this point.  If I go make the trek to the theaters this weekend to see it, it's only for discussion material when Eric P and I record our next podcast.

I still maintain that it would have come out best as a 12 episode HBO one off series.  With Zach Snyder kept far, far away from it.

Now, don't get me wrong.  I'm actually expecting it to be a decent popcorn flick.  Will it live up to the material, though?  Haha.  No chance.

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« Reply #143 on: March 04, 2009, 03:25:20 PM »
Old ladies :bow
Skinny bags of bones  :yuck
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« Reply #144 on: March 04, 2009, 03:27:26 PM »
I think it was Mandark that said that all fans believe every geek property works better as a HBO miniseries.

Snyder is a super talented guy and if Watchmen fails as a movie, I don't think it'll be for a lack of effort or talent.  It'll likely be a lack of courage to really create a script that works on film, and not just pandering to fans.
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« Reply #145 on: March 04, 2009, 03:27:34 PM »
Well, I will find out tomorrow at midnight. My hopes are being killed quickly though.

Travers is okay, sort of like Ebert. They both have their moments of epic stupidity, but for the most part, they are decent critics.
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« Reply #146 on: March 04, 2009, 03:27:45 PM »
You know NOTHING, PD.  The best sex I ever had was with a skinny as hell Eastern European chick.
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« Reply #147 on: March 04, 2009, 03:28:41 PM »
I think it was Mandark that said that all fans believe every geek property works better as a HBO miniseries.

Snyder is a super talented guy and if Watchmen fails as a movie, I don't think it'll be for a lack of effort or talent.  It'll likely be a lack of courage to really create a script that works on film, and not just pandering to fans.

The reviews I've read reflect as much, that the film fails mainly because he concentrated more on making it accurate than making it good.
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« Reply #148 on: March 04, 2009, 03:31:35 PM »
He was screwed either way.  If he made legitimate changes to adapt the source material into a good film, the fan community would've hung him out to dry.  This reeks of the way the Harry Potter movies are mishandled, where they become the visual equivalent of Cliff Notes and very mediocre films as a result.
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« Reply #149 on: March 04, 2009, 03:32:26 PM »
Watchmen is kind of a sacred cow when it comes to my comic book and graphic novel collection.  I was so pumped for this adaptation and now I'm debating whether or not to even see it at this point.  If I go make the trek to the theaters this weekend to see it, it's only for discussion material when Eric P and I record our next podcast.
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« Reply #150 on: March 04, 2009, 03:34:17 PM »
I never said Devin Faraci was the final say in film quality, just that it was very promising that someone who is a notorious nitpicker was absolutely raving about it.  It will no doubt be extremely excruciating to read any op-eds from him that paint Snyder as some kind of martyr, whose film is "misunderstood".
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« Reply #151 on: March 04, 2009, 03:34:35 PM »
I get the sense that the directors cut will be substantially better then the theatric.  Could just be wishful thinking.  

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« Reply #152 on: March 04, 2009, 03:35:44 PM »
I bought the tickets for the 7pm IMAX showing this Saturday.

Going with two people who've never read the comic. :rock

they just want to see a movie in IMAX and when I mentioned it they jumped on the chance.
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« Reply #153 on: March 04, 2009, 03:36:46 PM »
I never said Devin Faraci was the final say in film quality, just that it was very promising that someone who is a notorious nitpicker was absolutely raving about it.  It will no doubt be extremely excruciating to read any op-eds from him that paint Snyder as some kind of martyr, whose film is "misunderstood".
My rule of thumb, any internet geek critic who visits the set of the movie should be ignored come review time.

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« Reply #154 on: March 04, 2009, 03:36:50 PM »
I get the sense that the directors cut will be substantially better then the theatric.  Could just be wishful thinking.  

I'm kind of holding out for that, as well.

My rule of thumb, any internet geek critic who visits the set of the movie should be ignored come review time.

If you extend that rule to most critics, including those who cover the industry for magazines, newspapers, etc. - you'd be ignoring most reviews for many tentpole flicks.
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« Reply #155 on: March 04, 2009, 03:44:13 PM »
I get the sense that the directors cut will be substantially better then the theatric.  Could just be wishful thinking.  

I'm kind of holding out for that, as well.

My rule of thumb, any internet geek critic who visits the set of the movie should be ignored come review time.

If you extend that rule to most critics, including those who cover the industry for magazines, newspapers, etc. - you'd be ignoring most reviews for many tentpole flicks.

I'm looking forward to seeing the directors cut as well. I'm not expecting Kingdom of Heaven brilliance, but I expect a better film.
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« Reply #156 on: March 04, 2009, 03:53:10 PM »
Quote from: Willco link=topic=28866.msg798401#msg798401

If you extend that rule to most critics, including those who cover the industry for magazines, newspapers, etc. - you'd be ignoring most reviews for many tentpole flicks.
That's why I said Internet geek critics. Real journalists are used to sets and jaded about all that.

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« Reply #157 on: March 04, 2009, 03:56:54 PM »
ha ha wow

the new yorker rogers the hell out of it then in the next segment praises Leave Her To Heaven.



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« Reply #158 on: March 04, 2009, 04:01:08 PM »
Stop calling Snyder "super talented", Feder, you're hurting my soul. 300 was crappy, and DotD was slightly less crappy.

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« Reply #159 on: March 04, 2009, 04:08:22 PM »
Snyder is super duper talented. He's also a handsome guy.
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« Reply #160 on: March 04, 2009, 04:17:50 PM »
Stop calling Snyder "super talented", Feder, you're hurting my soul. 300 was crappy, and DotD was slightly less crappy.

This is William Federwang we're talking about here, tho.  To get him to claim a movie is the greatest of all time all you'd have to do would be to cast Bruce Campbell as the lead and toss in some shitty robots.
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« Reply #161 on: March 04, 2009, 04:19:23 PM »
MST3K The Movie 2, starring Bruce Cambot
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« Reply #162 on: March 04, 2009, 04:19:42 PM »
Stop calling Snyder "super talented", Feder, you're hurting my soul. 300 was crappy, and DotD was slightly less crappy.

Dawn of the Dead was very entertaining, and 300 was a pretty damn good adaptation.  Snyder is talented.

This is William Federwang we're talking about here, tho.  To get him to claim a movie is the greatest of all time all you'd have to do would be to cast Bruce Campbell as the lead and toss in some shitty robots.

Hey now - I never claimed any movie with Bruce Campbell or robots the greatest film ever.  Just second greatest film ever.

MST3K The Movie 2, starring Bruce Cambot

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« Reply #163 on: March 04, 2009, 04:23:37 PM »
so did i, but i accidentally a whole series instead
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« Reply #164 on: March 04, 2009, 04:24:19 PM »
so did i, but i accidentally a whole series instead

You ate a whole series?  There is a word or two missing from this sentence.  Is Arvie rubbing off on you?
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« Reply #165 on: March 04, 2009, 04:25:07 PM »
i was experimenting with using the "i accidentally an entire coke bottle" meme to cloud my illegal/immoral activities

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« Reply #166 on: March 04, 2009, 04:25:54 PM »
My illegal and immoral activities are transparent.
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« Reply #167 on: March 04, 2009, 04:29:14 PM »
that's because you have no problem fucking grannies in the butt while you steal DS games.
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« Reply #168 on: March 04, 2009, 04:29:33 PM »
Most of people I'm seeing this with seem to think it's The Dark Knight 2, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the impression that most non-nerdlingers' have going into this.  The fallout should be interesting.
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« Reply #169 on: March 04, 2009, 04:34:33 PM »
that's because you have no problem fucking grannies in the butt while you steal DS games

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... Yeah, I can't wait to see the general audience reaction this weekend.
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« Reply #170 on: March 04, 2009, 04:35:08 PM »
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He was screwed either way.  If he made legitimate changes to adapt the source material into a good film, the fan community would've hung him out to dry.  This reeks of the way the Harry Potter movies are mishandled, where they become the visual equivalent of Cliff Notes and very mediocre films as a result.

it seems like the new trend in adaptations is to be obsessively faithful in minor details but flub the important things.  I thought that about Lord of the Rings, too.
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« Reply #171 on: March 04, 2009, 04:36:35 PM »
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Most of people I'm seeing this with seem to think it's The Dark Knight 2, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the impression that most non-nerdlingers' have going into this.  The fallout should be interesting.

eh, I don't think that's a particularly horrible mindset to enter the Watchmen with.  Both movies touch upon similar themes.  Watchmen is way more 'out there', but it's not like campiness did any harm to Spider-Man's reception.

edit: Thinking about it a bit more, mixing nihilism with outrageous camp probably doesn't equal great box office  :lol
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« Reply #172 on: March 04, 2009, 04:53:58 PM »
Stop calling Snyder "super talented", Feder, you're hurting my soul. 300 was crappy, and DotD was slightly less crappy.

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I think 300 was a very faithful adaptation.  It's just that the source material is so unbelievably shitty that Snyder really had little to work with.

DotD was eh.
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« Reply #173 on: March 04, 2009, 05:00:41 PM »
Every person who saw the Dark Knight saw the Watchmen trailer at least once. It's going to have a decent box office return.
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« Reply #174 on: March 04, 2009, 05:05:25 PM »
The marketing blitz for The Watchmen has been heavy. They're pushing it like a summer blockbuster.
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« Reply #175 on: March 04, 2009, 05:07:05 PM »
i went to look for a new issue of Russia! magazine today at borders where they had several watchman standees and tables devoted to the book and associated art books and the like, there were many different people reading the comic.

it's a shame that Alan Moore requested his name be removed from it.

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« Reply #176 on: March 04, 2009, 05:17:58 PM »
the guy's a fucking hermit
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« Reply #177 on: March 04, 2009, 05:25:42 PM »
not really

he just doesn't play nice with most mainstream journalists so to them he carries this "mystical aura" sort of thing that they build up to mythologize him.

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« Reply #178 on: March 04, 2009, 06:05:18 PM »
Wow, even the geeks at AICN who love just about everything are giving this negative reviews.  :lol

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« Reply #179 on: March 04, 2009, 06:43:30 PM »
Unless I'm mistaken, all that shit with the politician and the main guy's wife in 300 wasn't in the comic... and it made the movie even shittier than the comic and have great fascist overtones.

Sure, it's a flawed source, but they managed to make it even more offensive in my opinion... and waaaaaaaaaay too long considering how short the comic is.
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