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http://wii.ign.com/articles/958/958936p1.html

According to the company, players will be able to use the Wii remote motion or classic control to play the game. Control descriptions below:

Motion Control (Wii Remote and Nunchuk controllers)
Who the hell cares this will fucking suck.

Classic Control (Wii Remote NES style)
Fans of the NES version and core gamers will be excited to see Nintendo has also included the option to play Punch-Out!! using the classic layout from the original NES controller. Use the 1 and 2 buttons along with the cross pad to throw hooks and jabs or to dodge. (!!)

I just hope they don't fuck it up by making it really easy.  :-\
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 11:07:57 PM »
I find it funny when people breathe a sigh of relief when waggle is optional. Why did these people even buy a Wii to begin with?
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 11:11:28 PM »
I don't really understand the purpose of this game now; I thought it would have different controls or something, but it's just Punch Out on NES in 3D.  Ok.

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 11:35:48 PM »
I find it funny when people breathe a sigh of relief when waggle is optional. Why did these people even buy a Wii to begin with?
until waggle controls are perfected,or are actually suitable for the game they're in (Zack & Wiki, Boom Blox, Wario Ware, No More Heroes) I'll gladly take a perfectly functioning control scheme over a half-assed waggle fest.  Shoehorning a traditional game into the Wii just doesn't work, it has to built from the ground up for it.  I would imagine Nintendo wouldn't let Punch-Out out of the oven until the motion controls are as good as they can be.

That said, if its going to be a good Punch-Out game, it needs to be difficult, and it needs sharp control.  I'm hoping for both, and I already know I'll have at least one of those.

as an aside.  The Wii Victorious Boxers game is actually pretty decent.  The controls aren't perfect, but whenever I lose its because I let myself get hit, not because I couldn't land a punch.  Its cutscene heavy, but the actual boxing ain't half bad.
I don't really understand the purpose of this game now; I thought it would have different controls or something, but it's just Punch Out on NES in 3D.  Ok.
its a well-known NES game, and as the Wii is selling like hotcakes to lapsed gamers, adults who were kids when the NES ruled the world, it actually makes a lot of sense to bring the series back.  I'm just hoping for a solid game-game from Nintendo.
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 11:36:34 PM »
why did ANYONE buy a wii
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2009, 11:48:13 PM »
so you either play with waggle or controls from 1985.

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 11:59:56 PM »
Waggle controls for me, woot.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2009, 01:46:35 AM »
This is awesome news.  Nintendo will never win elitist nerds over but who gives a fuck you're not influencing anything!  What a great time to embrace true gaming.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2009, 10:16:25 AM »
I like the classic Punch Out games but I'm not really that sure about this new one for some reason. Optional motion controls are nice, though.
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2009, 11:14:36 AM »
Punch Out is one of my all-time favorite series, but I don't have high hopes for this.  Good news about traditional controls though.

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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2009, 11:19:17 AM »
They probably added traditional controls as a cop out for implementing broken waggle.

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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2009, 12:02:49 PM »
I find it funny when people breathe a sigh of relief when waggle is optional. Why did these people even buy a Wii to begin with?
until waggle controls are perfected,or are actually suitable for the game they're in (Zack & Wiki, Boom Blox, Wario Ware, No More Heroes) I'll gladly take a perfectly functioning control scheme over a half-assed waggle fest.  Shoehorning a traditional game into the Wii just doesn't work, it has to built from the ground up for it.  I would imagine Nintendo wouldn't let Punch-Out out of the oven until the motion controls are as good as they can be.

That said, if its going to be a good Punch-Out game, it needs to be difficult, and it needs sharp control.  I'm hoping for both, and I already know I'll have at least one of those.

as an aside.  The Wii Victorious Boxers game is actually pretty decent.  The controls aren't perfect, but whenever I lose its because I let myself get hit, not because I couldn't land a punch.  Its cutscene heavy, but the actual boxing ain't half bad.
I don't really understand the purpose of this game now; I thought it would have different controls or something, but it's just Punch Out on NES in 3D.  Ok.
its a well-known NES game, and as the Wii is selling like hotcakes to lapsed gamers, adults who were kids when the NES ruled the world, it actually makes a lot of sense to bring the series back.  I'm just hoping for a solid game-game from Nintendo.

yeah, but they are bringing the series back exactly how it was before and still left thinking "what's the point." At least maybe making the gameplay more like the far-superior-to-any-punch-out-game-with-very-similar-gameplay game Hajime no Ippo on the GBA.  I'm jumping to conclusions about how they would make the gameplay, but I can't say I'm excited for this.  First, it's done by an 'ok' or miss dev; second, the art style is hideous; third, now it seems like it's the exact same gameplay as the NES game.  So again, what's the point? the only different between this and something like Wayne Dixon Punchy Sports game on the GBA, or any number of Punch Out clones out there, is the Punch Out title.

and the Wii Victorious Boxer game is good, but it is also the worst of the Victorious Boxer games; there are three of them on the PS2, two came over to the states and both of those are much better games (best of the three was never localized.)



 

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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2009, 01:28:09 PM »
why did ANYONE buy a wii

because it has some fun exclusives?
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2009, 04:29:17 PM »
The point, my dear swaggaz, is to make money by releasing a new installment in a long dormant but famous series.  And Next Level Games is well regarded, I've only heard good things about Soccer Slam and the Mario Soccer games. 
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2009, 04:30:11 PM »
I find it funny when people breathe a sigh of relief when waggle is optional. Why did these people even buy a Wii to begin with?

They bought it for all the killer titles, obviously,

We really did
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2009, 01:14:51 PM »
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In the latest press release (the one that contained details on the classic controls) Nintendo reconfirmed the appearances of boxers Little Mac, Glass Joe, King Hippo, Doc Louis, and Von Kaiser, plus "other unannounced favorites."

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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2009, 02:11:39 PM »
I'm definitely going to check it out. I mean, got to see if that Wii still turns on somehow, right?
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« Reply #17 on: March 25, 2009, 07:53:38 AM »
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8ra6c_punchout-wii-new-trailer_videogames


New trailer, looks incredible ... (but I still have no desire to play it)

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« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2009, 09:03:39 AM »
Out of curiousity, do you all know what the barbie code is in the NES punch out?

Also, fuck man, NES controls work? Great stuff.

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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2009, 10:41:10 AM »
I loved the original as much as the next guy, but this looks boring considering all the tricks to beat the boxers are the same as the original.

Boxer flashes, player dodges, then punch punch punch.

Now a rehash of Ring King would be awesome as that was a genuinely tough game.
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2009, 10:52:34 AM »
Out of curiousity, do you all know what the barbie code is in the NES punch out?

no i do not.  would you care to inform me what it does?
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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2009, 11:03:54 AM »
Out of curiousity, do you all know what the barbie code is in the NES punch out?

no i do not.  would you care to inform me what it does?

Well, "code" is kind of a misnomer. It's more of a strategy for the first Don Flamenco fight.

He does his taunt, you punch him, he blocks, he comes with a right hook, and then you can attack him.

Now, if you alternate back and forth, B, A, B, A...you can keep going until you knock him down.

When I was young, the other kids I knew called this the "barbie code." I always figured this was a widely known thing, but years later I saw a video guide to punchout and the narrator not only didn't call it by that name, but he didn't know that if you kept pressing BABABABABABABA that Flamenco would take shots until going down.

I just wondered about it since then.

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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2009, 11:08:54 AM »
I loved the original as much as the next guy, but this looks boring considering all the tricks to beat the boxers are the same as the original.

Boxer flashes, player dodges, then punch punch punch.

Now a rehash of Ring King would be awesome as that was a genuinely tough game.

Well, for me, this is what... the third Punch-Out game in 25 years?  I think I can deal with it being a rehash with "better" graphics.  A rehash of an original NES Nintendo game is still leagues better than the crap they've been trying to pass off in the last while.

I'd rather play the NES original.  It is one of the few games that I consider timeless.

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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2009, 11:49:02 AM »
$50 for a rehashed Punch-Out  :lol

I don't think I'm ever buying another Wii game  :'(

One that's not for the kids, anyway.

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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2009, 12:59:30 PM »
So this is an uglier punch-out but with optional wii sports control?

lol at people that only own a wii this gen.
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2009, 01:01:35 PM »
I saw that this game received a 1 and a 3.5 from the latest GameInformer  :lol
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« Reply #26 on: March 25, 2009, 01:06:13 PM »
I saw that this game received a 1 and a 3.5 from the latest GameInformer  :lol
I think that was Ready 2 Rumble Wii.

The reviewer seemed to think it was pretty racist.

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« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2009, 02:28:28 PM »
looks awful
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« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2009, 02:42:40 PM »
this looks like shit

watching the video it's clear the boxers have the exact same patterns, strategies, and timing as the NES version

and now you're telling me the same control scheme, too?

smh @ wii fans who find this acceptable
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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2009, 02:57:43 PM »
Watching the trailer makes it look like Punchout's gameplay is too shallow to hold up these days.  Watch for the flash -> dodge -> counter -> repeat for the whole game?  zzz

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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2009, 03:08:52 PM »
Watching the trailer makes it look like Punchout's gameplay is too shallow to hold up these days.  Watch for the flash -> dodge -> counter -> repeat for the whole game?  zzz
That's exactly why it appeals to the Wii audience, though.  This release is typical Nintendo in that it is building on a franchise which holds nostalgic appeal while delivering gameplay that the whole family can enjoy.  :\  What makes it even worse is that they will then go on to use this shit as the cornerstone of their software lineup for 6 months (along with Wii Sports Resort).  Why should they bother releasing any other games when their "product" is still selling?

I still can't believe the best selling system this generation had one of the worst fall lineups (the 2008 lineup) I've seen in well over a decade.  I mean, it was just embarrassingly awful.  Yet, it doesn't matter because lots of people were buying the Wii and copies of games Nintendo released 6-12 months before.

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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2009, 11:24:06 PM »
Watching the trailer makes it look like Punchout's gameplay is too shallow to hold up these days.  Watch for the flash -> dodge -> counter -> repeat for the whole game?  zzz
That's exactly why it appeals to the Wii audience, though.  This release is typical Nintendo in that it is building on a franchise which holds nostalgic appeal while delivering gameplay that the whole family can enjoy.  :\  What makes it even worse is that they will then go on to use this shit as the cornerstone of their software lineup for 6 months (along with Wii Sports Resort).  Why should they bother releasing any other games when their "product" is still selling?

I still can't believe the best selling system this generation had one of the worst fall lineups (the 2008 lineup) I've seen in well over a decade.  I mean, it was just embarrassingly awful.  Yet, it doesn't matter because lots of people were buying the Wii and copies of games Nintendo released 6-12 months before.
How is that surprising?  It's a totally different market.  A market that is fine with 2 or 3 diversions a year.  We gotta stop comparing the Wii to contemporary game consoles.  It is a different beast. 

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« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2009, 11:32:29 PM »
Punch-Out was the first game ever I really got into as a 7-year-old kid.  This seems to be more of a remake than a sequel, animation is cool though.  I'd pay $20
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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2009, 11:44:36 PM »
this looks like shit

watching the video it's clear the boxers have the exact same patterns, strategies, and timing as the NES version

and now you're telling me the same control scheme, too?

smh @ wii fans who find this acceptable

I don't understand this.  If Nintendo tries something new with a franchise, you all scream foul.  When they stick to the roots, you still scream foul.

How about you all just fucking ignore Nintendo completely?  It'd be better for all of us.
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« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2009, 11:53:11 PM »
this looks like shit

watching the video it's clear the boxers have the exact same patterns, strategies, and timing as the NES version

and now you're telling me the same control scheme, too?

smh @ wii fans who find this acceptable

I don't understand this.  If Nintendo tries something new with a franchise, you all scream foul.  When they stick to the roots, you still scream foul.

How about you all just fucking ignore Nintendo completely?  It'd be better for all of us.

There's nothing wrong with Nintendo trying something new.  This logic seems to get brought up a lot (see Zelda thread) where supposedly core gamers are upset when Nintendo tries new and then upset when they just do cash-in sequels.  Yet I never see people getting upset that Nintendo is doing "new" with regards to main franchises.

Mario Galaxy was Mario but with a "new" twist (gravity) and people liked it.  Even Sunshine didn't get hate for the "new" waterpack until post-release when the hate was mainly that it didn't work so well and the non-pack levels played better.

People want Nintendo to make new games with new gameplay systems.  They just don't want Nintendo to take say Punch Out and turn it into family Wii boxing.

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« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2009, 12:00:53 AM »
How is it Family Wii Boxing?  Because of the balance board?  pshhh, big deal.

Nintendo creates new game styles, especially this generation, that everyone here gets so butthurt over.  Wah wah, our poor hobby is being infected by teh casualz!

Nintendo creates a new take on Metroid: everyone here criticizes it
Nintendo has a new take on the Exite series: everyone here criticizes it
Nintendo goes back to a very standard, hardcore Zelda: shockingly, everyone here (mostly) criticizes it.

They just can't win with you people, and they wouldn't succeed in their business if they did everything you wanted them to.

I get frustrated with them a lot too, but the overall nerdrage spawning from this snooty gaming community is just as nauseating.
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« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2009, 12:03:51 AM »
Could be because they suck
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« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2009, 12:08:45 AM »
this looks like shit

watching the video it's clear the boxers have the exact same patterns, strategies, and timing as the NES version

and now you're telling me the same control scheme, too?

smh @ wii fans who find this acceptable
Remember the Nintendogs famitsu review?
Dude remember when you said Nintendogs wasn't a 10 game but it was still pretty good? 
Yeah, I do
So STFU, its like this whole forum is full of butthurt bitter nerds who aren't happy the way the past 3 years panned out.
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2009, 12:12:43 AM »
Could be because they suck

And yet, you all still give a shit.
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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2009, 12:13:41 AM »
I don't think anyone is bitter at Nintendo, TBH.  Almost everyone here has owned a Wii at some point or currently owns one.  It is just the majority here is not excited by Nintendo's console offerings.  I remember everyone going ga ga for Galaxy here.  If the game is good it will get praise.

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« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2009, 12:14:44 AM »
How is it Family Wii Boxing?  Because of the balance board?  pshhh, big deal.

Nintendo creates new game styles, especially this generation, that everyone here gets so butthurt over.  Wah wah, our poor hobby is being infected by teh casualz!

Nintendo creates a new take on Metroid: everyone here criticizes it
Nintendo has a new take on the Exite series: everyone here criticizes it
Nintendo goes back to a very standard, hardcore Zelda: shockingly, everyone here (mostly) criticizes it.

They just can't win with you people, and they wouldn't succeed in their business if they did everything you wanted them to.

I get frustrated with them a lot too, but the overall nerdrage spawning from this snooty gaming community is just as nauseating.

They aren't turning it into family Wii boxing.  They're doing the opposite and keeping it the exact same.

I'm saying people don't want Nintendo:
1.  Churning out games that are the exact same
2.  Making huge changes in the wrong direction

They just want a new game that has creative new ideas but still retains what makes the original great.

I think Metroid Prime was a good example of what people want.  It still feels like Metroid but it had a lot of new ideas coming from the GBA/SNES ones.

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« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2009, 12:16:23 AM »
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I think Metroid Prime was a good example of what people want.  It still feels like Metroid but it had a lot of new ideas coming from the GBA/SNES ones.

Have you read anything anyone says here about that game?  Everyone here fucking hates it, yet only a few people (TA most notably) can explain WHY.

I'm labeled an ninthing, so what.  I play all the same games you do.  I own a 360, I own a PS3.  I have Steam installed and Left 4 Dead is major fun.  So go ahead, whoever is about to make fun of me, at least I know I can enjoy a multitude of games.
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« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2009, 12:27:03 AM »
I thought people hated MP until it actually came out and was good and then everyone was cool with it?

Eh, I like good Nintendo games and I don't see anything wrong with that.  I like good games on any platform and even if Nintendo makes dumb decisions and has shit hardware they still create like 1 great game a year that is a lot of fun.

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« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2009, 12:29:25 AM »
I think different people want different things.  Some folks wanted a 3d metroid (prime), others a remake (zero mission), others a 2d sequel (fusion), others wanted a stab at multi fps (hunters), spinoffs (pinball), etc.
Nintendo or any other company doesn't owe anyone anything in any specific way.  The problem I'm seeing is instead of folks enjoying games for what they are and accepting their flaws theyd rather bitch about exactly how and what audience it should be developed for.  They blow small problems out of proportion to denounce a game and demonise its fans.  I think some apathy is needed, hell its psychologically healthy.

I think Punchout looks great.  Good style and animations, catchy music, optional control schemes to appeal to both crowds, and probably a dumb fun multiplayer mode.  Similar or same patterns is only going to slightly hinder my enjoyment of it.
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« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2009, 12:29:41 AM »
I like good games on any platform and even if Nintendo makes dumb decisions and has shit hardware they still create like 1 great game a year that is a lot of fun.

Such as
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« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2009, 12:30:42 AM »
I actually didn't mind Metroid Prime.

Keep in mind that a lot of the guys here have played a lot of FPS games.  In that regard, Metroid Prime is pathetically weak.  MP2 was even more offensive because at least in the first one, it was a one player only affair.  It could be recognized that it wasn't trying to be a Halo or whatever multiplayer FPS was the hit at the time (Return to Castle Wolfenstein?  I don't know).  With the second one, it tried to be a multiplayer FPS.  Even worse is that the overworld was nowhere near as good as the first.  Assuming you liked the first.

Metroid Prime's target market is those who liked the Metroid games but not seasoned in FPS to the point where they could nitpick it to death.  Its target market is those who are aware of the genre and may have played a few games of Counterstrike back in the day.  I thought the environments were neat and was a good game to play on a winter break, which is when I played it anyway.  It is such a shame the second one was so bad, otherwise I might have jumped on part 3.
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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2009, 12:31:41 AM »
Bebpo liked Brawl.
I'm guessing Mario Galaxy in 07.
06?   Dont say Zelda :[
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« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2009, 12:32:49 AM »
3D Picross is the best Nintendo game this year
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« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2009, 12:34:35 AM »
2008 - Brawl
2007 - Galaxy, Zelda PH
2006 - Twilight Princess
2005 - Metroid Prime Pinball
2004 - Paper Mario 2 (I didn't actually like this, but most people who played the way better US script do)
2003 - Wind Waker, Mario & Luigi
2002 - Metroid Prime
2001 - Pikmin

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« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2009, 12:35:29 AM »
Who actually has a reason to play portables?  Japanese people ride trains, makes sense.  I only ever played my ds at home and when I used to take the bus.
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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #50 on: March 26, 2009, 12:35:48 AM »
3D Picross is the best Nintendo game this year

See.  Nintendo makes fun games!

Who actually has a reason to play portables?  Japanese people ride trains, makes sense.  I only ever played my ds at home and when I used to take the bus.

I agree with this, but Japanese people make games for Japanese people.  So...everything is on portable now and you don't really have a choice if you want to play Japanese games.

cool breeze

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #51 on: March 26, 2009, 12:51:09 AM »
I'm so up and down on this Punch Out game.  The latest trailer was kinda nice, then now that people have played it, posted videos and impressions it seems like it is punch out.  It's not like punch out, or punch out as in it's in the series, it's literally just Mike Tyson's Punch Out in 3D.  It's not a bad thing and if they make it a budget priced game it will make sense, but from gameplay impressions and information ou there, it seems that the differences in Punch Out NES to Punch Out Wii are less than those of Bionic Commando to Bionic Commando Rearmed, and that game was $10.

What gets me is that before the Wii came out and we realized that the controller was a budget piece of shit, Punch Out was one of the obvious things for the motion controls.  It would be like that boxing game in arcades that uses tracks your movement, but a good game to fit the gimmick.  As I mentioned already, the Wii controller is a cheap pos that does pointer gameplay well, but rarely if ever has motion controls workable.  It's pretty funny that it's been over 2 years since the Wii launched, a device is needing to be released to hopefully deliver the original vision of quality motion controls, and it still isn't out yet.

I'm still open to the idea of motion controls in games if they were done right; Nintendo did/does motion controls so wrong that it possibly tainted the idea of it happening.  When you actually see a game that does motion control right, like Police 9/11 in arcades, I think it's pretty awesome.  Police 9/11 is probably my favorite light gun game because I can look like a jackass bobbing and weaving at the arcade cabinet.  I'm still stunned at some games released for the Wii that are fundamentally broken because of the poor controls.  Samba de Amigo, Wii Love Golf, SSX Blur, etc.  It's ridiculous how bad they made the Wii remote for motion controls.  At least pointer controls work well most of the time.


TakingBackSunday

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #52 on: March 26, 2009, 01:00:25 AM »
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I'm still open to the idea of motion controls in games if they were done right; Nintendo did/does motion controls so wrong that it possibly tainted the idea oMario Kartf it happening.  When you actually see a game that does motion control right, like Police 9/11 in arcades, I think it's pretty awesome.  Police 9/11 is probably my favorite light gun game because I can look like a jackass bobbing and weaving at the arcade cabinet.  I'm still stunned at some games released for the Wii that are fundamentally broken because of the poor controls.  Samba de Amigo, Wii Love Golf, SSX Blur, etc.  It's ridiculous how bad they made the Wii remote for motion controls.  At least pointer controls work well most of the time.

That's my main issue with the Wii as well, other than Nintendo's odd stance on online, and it's a shame that Motion+ wasn't a standard feature from the beginning.

Some of their games have used motion control okay, but it's usually the case where it's not a main feature or it's simply implemented...Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Wii Sports, etc.  I've already heard really cool things about Motion+ from the EA sports games, so I'm looking forward to it...but yeah, shame it came two years later than it should have.
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EmCeeGrammar

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #53 on: March 26, 2009, 01:07:17 AM »
I didn't have a problem with We Love Golf controls.  Well thats a lie, the camera adjustments could be annoying-slightly.  Everything else worked pretty well for me.
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AdmiralViscen

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #54 on: May 17, 2009, 12:02:44 AM »
I kinda want this.

Reviews say that the new mode you unlock after beating the game has all-new patterns and shit, and I didn't play the original much anywayz.

demi

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #55 on: May 17, 2009, 12:51:57 AM »
lol, you have to beat the game in order to unlock an actual different game?
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Bebpo

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #56 on: May 17, 2009, 12:56:56 AM »
lol, you have to beat the game in order to unlock an actual different game?

Nintendo  :dur

archie4208

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #57 on: May 17, 2009, 01:00:03 AM »
lol, you have to beat the game in order to unlock an actual different game?

You have to beat the easy mode to unlock the hard mode.

Crushed

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #58 on: May 17, 2009, 01:16:05 AM »
you have to beat levels to unlock the subsequent more difficult levels?!??!?!?!?
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cool breeze

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Re: Punch-Out Wii might actually be good (it has playable controls)
« Reply #59 on: May 17, 2009, 01:27:39 AM »
It's actually fairly clever how they're handling it.  When you first go through the game, it's Little Mac becoming the champion and fighting the guys for the first time.  Second time around is Little Mac defending his title belt from those you already beat, who all realized what their weakness was.

I'm gonna pick it up, but I still have a problem with how expensive it is.  Full price for this game is ridiculous.  Bionic Commando Rearmed, which is actually only $5 on PS3/360 at the moment, does something similar and offers a lot more new content at a fraction of the cost for Punch Out.  I'm not exactly helping them learn their lesson by buying the game.