Author Topic: NEW Borecast Episode 5 Part 2: Kierkegaard Stomped His Dreamcast up now (Read 36478 times)

Bloodwake · « **Reply #180 on:** March 20, 2009, 10:40:42 AM »

Yeah guys, give me another shot for the Milk review. I really felt that it's my better review out of the two.

lordmaji · « **Reply #181 on:** March 20, 2009, 11:21:31 AM »

Quote from: demi on March 19, 2009, 07:37:44 PM

the wii

trix.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #182 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:00:50 PM »

SECOND PART MUST HAVE TODAY NOW NOW I"M AT WORK PUT THIS SHIT OUT NOW I AM LISTENING TO LOCAL CRAP STREAMING RADIO $:-\$ Save my friday Kevin and Doug

Ganhyun · « **Reply #183 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:02:18 PM »

Quote from: G The Resurrected on March 20, 2009, 12:00:50 PM

SECOND PART MUST HAVE TODAY NOW NOW I"M AT WORK PUT THIS SHIT OUT NOW I AM LISTENING TO LOCAL CRAP STREAMING RADIO $:-\$ Save my friday Kevin and Doug

Its out. I just got it off itunes

Bloodwake · « **Reply #184 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:02:51 PM »

Part two is out. MILK MOTHER FUCKERS

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #185 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:04:52 PM »

The Borecast Episode 5 Part 2: Kierkegaard Stomped His Dreamcast is now up

Direct download:

http://media.libsyn.com/media/borecast/Borecast5_part2.mp3

It's the second part of Episode 5, and that probably makes sense somewhere. In this part we spin wild tales (yours and ours) of video game rage; Nick reviews Milk and gives a recommendation for a budget HDTV in honor of our second Great Depression; Doug attempts to explain Soren Kierkegaard's philosophy and Either/Or to Kevin; we read and respond to a couple of listener comments; and we report on the first Borecast Se7en Challenge. Listen for instructions on how you can get a chance to win a valuable* Borecast Prize Pack!

SEGMENT ONE: YOU WOULDN'T LIKE DOUG WHEN HE'S ANGRY, or ON A SCALE OF ONE TO TEN, URINATE

We read and react to some crazy listener Video Game Rage stories; Doug flashbacks to hulking up several times, and Kevin learns that no matter how you shake and dance, the last drop always goes in your pants.

SEGMENT TWO: NICK'S REVIEWS - Milk, and Depression-Era HDTV

(26:59) Nick Reviews the Blu Ray version of the Gus Van Sant film Milk, and gives us a recommendation for a budget HDTV to buy (if we can find an outlet in Tent Town).

SEGMENT THREE: KIERKEGAARD KANT GET NO SATISFACTION

(34:16) Our intermittent new feature "Doug Explains Badly" (wherein Doug attempts to expound upon a Highbrow topic to Kevin) kicks off with Soren Kirkegaard (Either/Or, Diary of a Seducer), Friedrich Hegel, Immanuel Kant, and a slight foray into that all-time partykiller Religion.

SEGMENT FOUR: LISTENER MAIL, BORECAST SE7EN CHALLENGE RESULTS, LISTENER CONTEST

(49:09) Listener comments - We touch back on Street Fighter 4, JRPGs, and "maturity" in games

(56:53) Borecast Se7en Challenge - The results of the first challenge (where Doug buys Kevin a wretched $7 or less game or movie, and Kevin has to spend at least two hours of his life playing or watching it) are in! Man, it's cooooooold out there in the wilderness!

(1:09:20) Listener Contest - How you can enter for a chance to win a special (oh, so special) Borecast Prize Pack! Send all entries to borecastcomments@gmail.com

Next episode we have a returning guest, and we'll get into some discussions on the horror genre, video game guides, another Se7en challenge (it's a movie this time), Kiddie Christian fare, and a shocking new feature we like to call - INDEFENSIBLE!

See you on March 30 for Episode 6!

*subjective

Veidt · « **Reply #186 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:08:12 PM »

Seriously guys. This podcast is awesome. "Holy shit, you're still listening! "

If you guys get 100000's of listeners. Remember me XD

Brehvolution · « **Reply #187 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:11:41 PM »

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #188 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:12:29 PM »

we were having skype issues during the video game rage part $:-\$

I think we're going to do some test recordings so I can see if I can handle multitrack recording, since all the cool kids are doing it

Bloodwake · « **Reply #189 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:14:53 PM »

Of course, now that GAF is on board, it will be the new cool podcast that everyone bitches about in like two weeks.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #190 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:15:25 PM »

Thanks Eel

LISTENING NOW! WOOO FRIDAY

Veidt · « **Reply #191 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:16:27 PM »

You're so right. People deem videogames childish, but reality shows are admired. What's wrong with this world. Seriously. Every man plays games, even if I were to control half the world. I'd still be playing videogames from time to time. Granted, I don't play videogames that much anymore anyway. But still, I don't think I can ever give it up.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #192 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:16:55 PM »

i'll be cooling it with the text-to-speech characters for a while

Veidt · « **Reply #193 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:18:28 PM »

Noooo. I like the Indian chick. Keep her. The rest can go.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #194 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:31:53 PM »

Sexbot rocks dont get rid of her

, my Indian coworkers love her.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #195 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:33:58 PM »

Nooooooo

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #196 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:36:23 PM »

it won't be funny if we use it all the time

she'll be back, just not for a while

Veidt · « **Reply #197 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:37:15 PM »

Cool. Surprise us every now and then.

Eric P · « **Reply #198 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:38:20 PM »

Quote

that all-time partykiller Religion.

the bakkheians seemed to be having a good time

Veidt · « **Reply #199 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:44:46 PM »

Wow. The philosophy section was amazing. *listens again*

muckhole · « **Reply #200 on:** March 20, 2009, 12:58:53 PM »

That banjo music is killing me.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #201 on:** March 20, 2009, 02:49:11 PM »

you don't want to know how much banjo music i listened to last night just to find that snippet

lordmaji · « **Reply #202 on:** March 20, 2009, 04:46:08 PM »

I can think of a name for a person looking for the perfect girl, but never will...

Wheres FA been?

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #203 on:** March 21, 2009, 05:04:04 PM »

finally got a chance to listen to this. thanks, guys! i'll have some comments on the kierkegaard section later.

lordmaji · « **Reply #204 on:** March 21, 2009, 05:05:15 PM »

Good stuff...

Whens the next question go up?

Barry Egan · « **Reply #205 on:** March 21, 2009, 05:06:03 PM »

for what it's worth, I found the Kierkegaard section really interesting to listen to, and my philosophy programme is heavily focused on the "Kantian line of thinking" as Doug put it. Keep up the awesome work fellas.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #206 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:00:51 PM »

yeah, i just forgot to post it here, will do that now in a separate thread

wow, jinfash, thanks for all the feedback, i appreciate the thoughts

i was pretty quiet during the kierkegaard segment until the end, trying to pay attention - yeah, prole promised recursive we'd do that segment for him

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #207 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:02:03 PM »

however, i now believe it was a bad idea to split the show into two parts

if we go long in the future, we just go long

poor jimmy, no one liked him :'(

Eric P · « **Reply #208 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:03:57 PM »

god i love horror fiction talk.

Smooth Groove · « **Reply #209 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:13:38 PM »

Great show. I just caught up with EP 5. part 1.

Frag was fantastic in EP4. You guys need to get him to come back. I didn't know for sure it was Frag until afterwards but the NC connection made me guess that it was him.

Btw, was Drinky making a dig at me about constantly upgrading the PC just to know that I can run Crysis better than everyone else?

demi · « **Reply #210 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:16:01 PM »

Man Crysis sucks

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #211 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:17:02 PM »

i haven't played the original crysis, but warhead is pretty cool even though it hammers my poor pc

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #212 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:17:21 PM »

only tangentially, since i have several coworkers who also upgrade with every round of new hardware

Barry Egan · « **Reply #213 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:30:13 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash

Let's pretend that there's only one existing religion. It obliges people to practice some (arbitrary, perhaps?) acts and manners while promising good fortune for those whole and not so good for those don't. It doesn't, however, include any of the eccentric, violent and extremist beliefs that some religions have.

Would following that religion be a good or a bad thing? It instruct you to ways to interact with others, things that would make you less of an asshole. It'll offer you ways to cope with death, injustice, and incentives promoting good actions. The drive would be out of fear of the bad fortunes waiting for you after death, which if fully believed would be more powerful than anything a person would promise himself to do.

As long as we're speaking in terms of an ideal, why not let the state stand in for religion? What's clear is that most human beings are happier when they have something greater then themselves to believe in; it's not necessarily the case that that thing needs to be God. Of course, the modern equivalent to this line of thinking is nationalism, which marries the aesthetic of religion with the nation-state. We all know now that nationalism is a bad thing, but hey, since we're speaking in ideals we may as well assume the possibility that we could conceive such a state without the naughty genocide.

And of course the alternative to both nationalism and religion would be a psychoanalytically informed Marxism. Since our main prerogative's in life are psycho-sexual and communicative, a state that guaranteed an undistorted continual outlet for both would keep us all happy without necessarily resorting to myth.

It's just so much easier to collapse religion in to politics. People will be happier with a streamlined meta-structure, don't you think?

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Now is that a bad thing or a good thing? would you rather take that or go through the other path, which is enjoying your life the fullest with no boundaries other than some limits you set yourself (some of which are very prone to be broken). You won't have anything to help you deal with life's misfortunes and tragedies, no long term goals to motivate you, you also may be more susceptible to depression due to the aforementioned reasons.

I have to admit that I don't buy the dichotomies you've established here. Why does the non-religious person have no boundaries and no long term goals and no emotional intelligence and no motivation for doing things? I don't blame the guy for getting depressed, he sounds like a real sack of shit.

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In other words, delusional but healthy and happy, or free, enlightened but prone to psychological illnesses?

Don't buy it. Religious people, and I'm sure you can attest to this as well as anyone, are prone to psychological illness just like the rest of us. In fact, you've got it quite backwards if you think that a religious persons lack of self-awareness will help him avoid his own psychology. At least the guy who's honest with himself has the possibility of "working it through".

One of the things worth keeping in mind with Kant and his insight about God was that it was a practical conceit made in order to prop up his notion of the autonomous individual as seperate from the state. He plainly admitted that God could never be adequately proven to exist, but he 'needed' him in order to unify morality and happiness. But if we happily concede that there is no individual without the things which formed him (the state, his family), we can do away with the necessity of God entirely, and at the very least do without the necessity of organized religion. God as a postulate is far less harmful and far more essential then all his trappings.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #214 on:** March 21, 2009, 06:42:52 PM »

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #215 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:02:41 PM »

i am religious to the extent that i would like everyone i personally care about to get to go to whatever afterlife they believe in

everyone else can fuck off

i remain unaffiliated, as they say

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #216 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:12:39 PM »

Jin, if you believe that a religion's doctrines are false and its stories pure fables, how can that religion possibly offer you any psychological benefits (outside of possible communitarian benefits). It seems that the potential benefits are only realizable when you believe that the religion is true, or at least possibly true. How can the idea of eternal life give you comfort when you believe it's a lie. How can the idea of a protective God help you when you believe that he's no more effective at warding off dangers than a voodoo doctor is at warding off diseases?

You're not unhappy because you lost your faith; you're unhappy because you lost your faith in a society that doesn't allow you to lose it. You live in a society that is forcing its beliefs on to you and not allowing you to live the kind of life that you want to live, which would make anyone miserable.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #217 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:35:41 PM »

I do feel depressed from a lack of religion in my life, not in the literal sense of supernatural theist religion which I never believed in, but in an inability to believe in anything transcendent that I've felt lately. Whether it's religion, art, socialism, the prospect of romantic love, or even the Platonic essence of mathematics and computer science, I have a hard time feeling anything beyond the mundane and it's really been bringing me down.

lordmaji · « **Reply #218 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:43:49 PM »

was my philosophy teacher wrong?

It's pronounced K-AH-nt? or is it K-A-nt?

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #219 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:47:29 PM »

Kahnt. and I'm pretty sure the first syllable of Kierkegaard rhymes with beer, not with uh James T. Kirk

but I refrained from bitching till now

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #220 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:53:15 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash on March 21, 2009, 07:37:00 PM

You're absolutely right, of course Jinfash (the fictional character dammit ) can't go back once he realized the truth. It would be stupid to pretend at that point, but my QUESTION is, was perusing the "Truth" worth the trouble and the grave consequences?

He used to be a fool, but a happy one at that.

If the only way you can achieve happiness is by being willfully ignorant, you are undeserving of happiness.

Ignorance may be bliss for some, but if everyone, or at least most of us, embrace ignorance, it will lead to a less happy planet. Those who have embraced ignorance have caused or exasperated many of our planet's ills. It's only because of questioning, open-minded, thoughtful people that many of these ills have been either reduced or eradicated.

The truth, on occasion, hurts; falsehoods kill and enslave.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #221 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:53:52 PM »

Quote from: recursivelyenumerable on March 21, 2009, 07:47:29 PM

Kahnt. and I'm pretty sure the first syllable of Kierkegaard rhymes with beer, not with uh James T. Kirk

but I refrained from bitching till now

Recursive is right

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/audio.pl?bixkie02.wav=Kierkegaard

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #222 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:55:51 PM »

I pronounced Kant like "can't" because otherwise I was apt to call him "cunt" and then giggle like a schoolgirl.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #223 on:** March 21, 2009, 07:58:15 PM »

Quote from: Malek on March 21, 2009, 07:55:51 PM

I pronounced Kant like "can't" because otherwise I was apt to call him "cunt" and then giggle like a schoolgirl.

yes

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #224 on:** March 21, 2009, 08:32:13 PM »

the Hulk's bra and panties story.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #225 on:** March 21, 2009, 08:37:58 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash on March 21, 2009, 07:57:55 PM

Quote from: Malek on March 21, 2009, 07:53:15 PM
If the only way you can achieve happiness is by being willfully ignorant, you are undeserving of happiness.

Ignorance may be bliss for some, but if everyone, or at least most of us, embrace ignorance, it will lead to a less happy planet. Those who have embraced ignorance have caused or exasperated many of our planet's ills. It's only because of questioning, open-minded, thoughtful people that many of these ills have been either reduced or eradicated.

The truth, on occasion, hurts; falsehoods kill and enslave.

Yeah, you're totally right.

It's just that in the "before" the guy thought what he believed in was the unquestionable truth while others were the "willfully ignorant". How he discovered the "truth" was purely coincidental and not by soul searching for having prior doubts.

I wonder about your characterizing it as coincidental. It's not as though he couldn't have found adequate explanations for that tragedy from within the religion had he wanted to.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #226 on:** March 21, 2009, 08:43:45 PM »

holy shit, epic fail in pronunciation on kant -- my grad student teacher has betrayed me

lordmaji · « **Reply #227 on:** March 21, 2009, 08:45:02 PM »

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 21, 2009, 08:43:45 PM

holy shit, epic fail in pronunciation on kant -- my grad student teacher has betrayed me

Lets shank em.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #228 on:** March 21, 2009, 08:46:51 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on March 21, 2009, 08:32:13 PM

the Hulk's bra and panties story.

THANK YOU

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #229 on:** March 21, 2009, 08:50:29 PM »

Quote from: lordmaji on March 21, 2009, 08:45:02 PM

Quote from: Professor Prole on March 21, 2009, 08:43:45 PM
holy shit, epic fail in pronunciation on kant -- my grad student teacher has betrayed me

Lets shank em.

especially the russian ones

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #230 on:** March 21, 2009, 08:52:48 PM »

No one pronounces Philosophers names right anyways.

lordmaji · « **Reply #231 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:00:24 PM »

Hey like Malek said.

If you pronounce it correctly, you want to call him Cunt because it's too close not to go "tee hee" over it.

So it's an epic catch22

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #232 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:01:00 PM »

someone make a soundbite of Eel saying "I don't get touched a lot"...

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #233 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:02:27 PM »

I always thought I sounded affected when trying to correctly pronounce certain philosopher's names. We don't have a problem with anglicizing people's names, except when those names belong to intellectuals, in which case we break out horrible foreign accents.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #234 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:04:05 PM »

since we already have your replacement, we might as well ban you, along with malek.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #235 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:07:29 PM »

I'll take your spot to be banned, Jinfash.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #236 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:08:01 PM »

Drinky what would Kierkegaard say on crying in the shower and how does this relate to the Humean tradition?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #237 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:09:58 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on March 21, 2009, 09:08:01 PM

Drinky what would Kierkegaard say on crying in the shower

He'd tell you that, once in the shower, you shouldn't take a leap of faith; you might slip on your landing and break your back.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #238 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:20:27 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on March 21, 2009, 09:01:00 PM

someone make a soundbite of Eel saying "I don't get touched a lot"...

it's true

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #239 on:** March 21, 2009, 09:22:19 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on March 21, 2009, 09:20:27 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on March 21, 2009, 09:01:00 PM
someone make a soundbite of Eel saying "I don't get touched a lot"...

it's true

If you'd like, I can change that.

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Author Topic: *NEW* Borecast Episode 5 Part 2: Kierkegaard Stomped His Dreamcast up now (Read 36478 times)

Author Topic: NEW Borecast Episode 5 Part 2: Kierkegaard Stomped His Dreamcast up now (Read 36478 times)