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Himu

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Being nice doesn't pay off
« on: December 06, 2006, 01:44:20 PM »
Being nice means always being last

You gotta be mean and be an ass

If you're nice won't get much pussy

If you're a dick, you won't be considered a wussy

For all the nice guys out there just do yourself a favor and kill yourself

Or Become a dick like me and spam Electronics Boutique
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whiteACID

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2006, 02:04:36 PM »
oh fuck off
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2006, 02:07:46 PM »
gee, thanks for the revelation, Himuro  ::)
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2006, 02:15:17 PM »
I thought you were leaving.
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Himu

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2006, 02:16:35 PM »
OA is pure shit. It has melted my brain and I'm feeling the after effects.
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2006, 02:18:33 PM »
Being nice pays off if you arent some sap looking for handouts.
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Himu

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2006, 02:20:32 PM »
Phoenix Dark?  >:(
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2006, 02:51:15 PM »
OA is pure shit. It has melted my brain and I'm feeling the after effects.

it's GAF that kills people's minds with its idiotic group-think

Himu

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2006, 02:51:50 PM »
 :lol
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2006, 02:56:57 PM »
Being nice means always being last

You gotta be mean and be an ass

If you're nice won't get much pussy

If you're a dick, you won't be considered a wussy

For all the nice guys out there just do yourself a favor and kill yourself

Or Become a dick like me and spam Electronics Boutique




Please stop mistaking confidence for dickheadedness

be confident, be sexy, and be nice.  The girl will go for you over that scum bag who's a cocky dick to them.
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 03:04:40 PM »
be confident, be sexy, and be nice.  The girl will go for you over that scum bag who's a cocky dick to them.


that's not a proven theory
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2006, 04:06:33 PM »
be confident, be sexy, and be nice.  The girl will go for you over that scum bag who's a cocky dick to them.


that's not a proven theory
Well technically if the girl goes for the cocky asshole then she's a girl you never would've wanted in the first place ;)
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2006, 04:53:04 PM »
lolz

being an outright asshole doesn't work.  But being a super nice guy usually doesn't work either.  Because usually the super nice guys are pushovers and pussies.  Be confident in yourself.  Be able to talk to her like she's a friend and not on a pedestal.  And yeah, you can play some assholish games.  One day, when you said you'd call her, don't.  Don't just pick up the phone one day and be "lolz, you're a dirty slut har har."  Find a nice in between.

JUST DON'T BE A FUCKING PANSY.

Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2006, 04:56:32 PM »
Yeah well like, Jean totally dug Logan and he was a fucking douchebag.

So the moral of the story is:  Be whatever you want.  If you're not a beautifully rugged man that can heal in seconds and make GIANT FUCKING METAL CLAWS come out of your hands, the battle's already lost.

Also, comic book women apparently love persistance.
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2006, 05:29:56 PM »
Being nice hasn't done anything for me but get a few "aww, you're so nice" quips from chicks as they walk through doors I hold or marvel at the types of people I be-friend.

I have come to the conclusion that many young women just want to be treated like shit, called bitches, and viewed as objects. Hell, that's certainly what many of their favorite music tells them. The challenge to melt a "bad boy's" heart seems like the quest for the holy grail to many of them, and no matter what happens they'll chase these losers. Yet what about us regular guys who aren't loud and disrespectful? Apparently we're forever placed in "friend" territory, and taken for granted as if we're the stereotypical gay friend.

I have given up on young women. If I can't find one mature enough to realize that expensive cars are nice, but it's moot if the guy is working at McDonalds and living in "the projects" - then why waste my time? I'm certainly not going to find a black chick on my wave length considering it seems like many of them are the most blatant offenders of the "yes he's an idiot, but he loves me..." mindset.

Solution? As Jack Black said in School of Rock, just give up. You're not going to win as a nice guy. So you might as well save yourself the heart ache and wait. Wait, grow older, and when your female friends become older maybe then you'll find one who appreciates a man who doesn't stay out that late, is funny, treats them like a human being (not an object, and not a princess) but recognizes the emotional differences (or at least tries to), and will take care of them if given the opportunity.
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2006, 05:46:53 PM »
Just be stoic, girls dig that.

Taker yer lumps as if its nuthin. Cause yer FUKIN HARDCORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2006, 05:57:14 PM »
Just be stoic, girls dig that.


Bull.  Fucking. Shit.
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2006, 06:04:57 PM »
Who cares, im stoic about it.

Stoicism is the shit, girl or no girl. When youre about to die you can wander out into the desert with a gun knowing you've lived, and you'll die on your feet when the gun runs outta bullets and you bet it all on one moment as your hands grip around the neck of one of natures wildest predators.

I might be confusing stoicsm in the classical sense with BEING AWESOME
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2006, 06:07:42 PM »
MAF is pretty much right, as always.

Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2006, 06:08:06 PM »
Who cares, im stoic about it.

Stoicism is the shit, girl or no girl. When youre about to die you can wander out into the desert with a gun knowing you've lived, and you'll die on your feet when the gun runs outta bullets and you bet it all on one moment as your hands grip around the neck of one of natures wildest predators.

I might be confusing stoicsm in the classical sense with BEING AWESOME

:lol :lol :lol

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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2006, 06:09:07 PM »
I think there's a lot to be said for just being AN AWESOME DUDE.
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2006, 06:19:00 PM »
I'm certainly not awesome. I don't talk much, but when I do I make my classmates laugh. It's hard to have musical discussions with me because most people don't seem to know who Mos Def, Talib, Kweli, and fucking Common are. And when I tell people I love Pink Floyd I always get the "I've never met a black guy who liked rock!" quip. Yeah, conversations can be a bitch.

I like my own company. I love coming home to a quiet house and knowing I can do whatever I want. But I'm certainly not anti-social; I don't like being in social environments that much, but I don't have any trouble adapting to them when need be.

There's nothing worse than being there for a chick as she gets over the breakup with some asshole who cheated on her and THEN watch her make the exact same mistake by choosing another loser...who cheats on her again.
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2006, 06:22:45 PM »
Awesome people adopt the live and let live policy, but otherwise dont attempt to make impressions on people. They tend to be very self-sufficient both on an emotional and practical level. They fill their time doing all the things they like to do that they are capable of doing instead of bemoaning an existence filled with things they cannot do. They also tend to find happiness in the simple fact that their pratical nature has afforded them the chance to do the things they love. If confronted with an obstacle their first reaction is to deal with it using all of their experience, and if needed, ask for help from others.

In short, Awesome People spend more time defining themselves than waiting on others to do it for them. Be awesome people! WHISKEY SOURS!
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2006, 06:25:53 PM »
Awesome people adopt the live and let live policy, but otherwise dont attempt to make impressions on people. They tend to be very self-sufficient both on an emotional and practical level. They fill their time doing all the things they like to do that they are capable of doing instead of bemoaning an existence filled with things they cannot do. They also tend to find happiness in the simple fact that their pratical nature has afforded them the chance to do the things they love. If confronted with an obstacle their first reaction is to deal with it using all of their experience, and if needed, ask for help from others.

In short, Awesome People spend more time defining themselves than waiting on others to do it for them. Be awesome people! WHISKEY SOURS!

By that definition I'm awesome though, but I don't feel awesome. What's the point in being awesome if no one else thinks you are? Then you're just John Kerry :(
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2006, 06:28:16 PM »
The point of being awesome is that there are going to be several points in your life where it all depends on you and you alone. If you are not up to that challenge you will end up alone in the worst sort of ways.

Worse you might end up one of those people who gives up and BLAMES THE WORLD.
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2006, 06:30:06 PM »
The point of being awesome is that there are going to be several points in your life where it all depends on you and you alone. If you are not up to that challenge you will end up alone in the worst sort of ways.

Worse you might end up one of those people who gives up and BLAMES THE WORLD.

Maybe you're right Uncle Ben Bones
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2006, 06:31:20 PM »
Also id like to point out that Awesome People tend to attract other Awesome People and thus form lasting bonds that carry them through life, even IF Dinosaurs are cloned and survival is paramount.
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2006, 06:32:48 PM »
Also id like to point out that Awesome People tend to attract other Awesome People and thus form lasting bonds that carry them through life, even IF Dinosaurs are cloned and survival is paramount.
Is that why we're friends?

MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2006, 06:33:18 PM »
WE ARE NOT FRIENDS! WE ARE BROTHERS WHO FIGHT FOR FREEDOM!
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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2006, 06:36:08 PM »
HYAH!  CLISH CLASH!   

We fight people like Himuro, liberate whole villages and eat elephants for breakfast.

MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2006, 06:37:21 PM »
Exciting!
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2006, 06:38:29 PM »
Can I join your club? :(

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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2006, 06:39:33 PM »
You'll be part of the reserves, youre too busy with school to participate full time!
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2006, 06:40:24 PM »
If I dropped out of school wouldn't I be more awesome!
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2006, 06:42:08 PM »
Awesome people dont run from obstacles, they SMASH THEM....im not advocating vandalism btw
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2006, 06:42:25 PM »
Nice guys are hot.   :-*
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2006, 06:42:49 PM »
Hot is female for AWESOME
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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2006, 06:47:24 PM »
Phoenix, you can't drop out of school.  We can't have a loser in our midst.  <3

Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2006, 06:48:50 PM »
I was just kidding duh


Meh I'll be woman-less for years no doubt. Oh well. More me time!
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2006, 06:51:42 PM »
Well dont resign yourself to it, just give it less priority.
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2006, 06:54:02 PM »
As I said I'm not even thinking about women right now. Pfft I need to get ME in order first.

MAF do you have a girlfriend?
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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2006, 06:56:08 PM »
What you should really do, is find a hot girl with a weak looking boyfriend.  One day, go right up to him and punch him between the eyes.  Tell him "Where's my fucking money, bitch?!"  Hold him by his collar like in Goodfellas and keep punching him between the eyes (this will make his eyes tear up and he won't be able to see and he'll look like a bitch).  She's going to think he owes you money, and he's going to look like a bum, a pansy and a bitch that can't fight.  She'll swoon for you.  Look him in the eyes and say "You've got til next week, bitch!" and thrust a final knee to face.  Then wipe some blood off your fist and walk away like nothing.

I'm fucking telling you, PD.

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2006, 06:57:04 PM »
So,

I'm a pacifist.

I'm pretty much fucked, aren't I?
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2006, 06:59:08 PM »
So,

I'm a pacifist.

I'm pretty much fucked, aren't I?

Same here.
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2006, 07:02:00 PM »
Had a girlfriend about 2-3 years ago. She was great, but I had to leave Arizona and I guess she couldnt bear to leave that crappy state. Since then *shrug*. I go out with friends, do what I like, enjoy the booze.

The point I am trying to get across with you is that until you are happy with yourself, you can never hope to keep a good woman happy. Cause you'll be all waa do you really like me, I dont like me, do you REALLY like me?! VALIDATE ME!!!!

Women dont like jerks and assholes, they like men who are secure with themselves. UNFORTUNATELY jerks and assholes APPEAR secure with themselves. Later on it is realized that they aren't secure with themselves and channel their insecurity through blind rage and fists.

PS: You dont need to kick people's ass to be strong :p
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Phoenix Dark

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2006, 07:04:08 PM »
I'm pretty secure with myself so I don't think that'll be much of a prob. Everyone needs to get themselves together at times, and that's what I'm doing now that I live outside the house.
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MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2006, 07:06:26 PM »
Just choose what you wanna do and as the japanese insist, SHOW NO HESISTATION.
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« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2006, 07:08:36 PM »


PS: You dont need to kick people's ass to be strong :p

Shh, I'm awaiting the "I got my ass kicked" thread.

MrAngryFace

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2006, 07:20:25 PM »
Haha, that's EVIL
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Bloodwake

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2006, 07:28:06 PM »
I'm secure enough about myself.

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2006, 07:29:04 PM »
God Phoenix Dark, stick a tampon in it.

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #51 on: December 06, 2006, 09:26:46 PM »
Nice guys are hot.   :-*

but....you're dating Willco.
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2006, 09:33:02 PM »
Nice guys are hot.   :-*
Yeah we know.  I think it's best we just tell PD "yeah be an asshole!" because he'll get rid of one crappy girl who likes being treated like crap and that leaves more good women ;)
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« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2006, 10:20:07 PM »
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Women dont like jerks and assholes, they like men who are secure with themselves. UNFORTUNATELY jerks and assholes APPEAR secure with themselves.

Which kind of defeats the initial bit.  People don't understand confidence, especially the average female, so if you were really okay with yourself... would they notice?  I don't think they do.  They'll notice someone making a scene more, and that person is making a scene because they need the attention to suppliment their lack of real confidence. On the beneficial side, women think indifference is confidence as well, so that somewhat balances out the fact they are attracted to donkeys they think are horses, SO TO SPEAK.

Plus, the female mindset tends to maximize the minimal and that hurts 'nice guys' a lot.

Another factor is that people find safety in predictability and truly being yourself is not as much a predictable person as playing a persona.  A 'jerk' is not really confident, but he is predictable. This also benefits the ego of the women, giving them a superiority in feeling that they are socially nicer than their partner, and it also feeds the secret quality factor(also part of maximize the minimal) in that the 'jerk' can be nice to them or have some redeeming quality that the female feels she is the only one who gets to see or appreciate.  This make her more special and feeds her ego, as though she conquered the beast. The female ego and the history of roles are major factors to 'nice guys finishing last'.

On the male side, you can't be an absolute nice guy with no backbone.  This isn't just a relationship based problem, but an all around problem with life. You have to be able to burn bridges, you have to at times stand up against someone you care about, because not all people are good, and that includes women. 

You can, as a male, be a jerk or indifferent and it will(sadly) work more than the nice guy routine.  The problem with this is that you are presenting a facade of who you are and no healthy relationship will come of this.  The tendecy to adopt roles and the higher quality of life in American and other 1st world countries are two factors that don't mix well for the individuals mental and spiritual well being.  This is why we have a lot of divorce. Game playing, role playing, facades... these things initialize relationships based upon lies and falsehoods.  It is a dead end for love.

If you want love, be yourself and suffer the consequences.

If you just want to get laid? Then be an asshole. It will work the fastest. Sometimes I pretend to be mean just to continually test theories.  This semister I acted more full of myself and indifferent and have recieved more female attention than I did in the previous two semisters. Outside of class I act polite and gentle, which is more like me, and recieve far less attention. It's unfortunate, but being a dick works.

If you find yourself chasing the women who ends up with the jerk, then you are getting trapped in the courtly love triangle and you need to avoid damsels in distress. Get out of that. If you want to know what the courtly love triangle is, then read about Arthur, Guinevere and Lancelot. These stories were meant to be about chastity and religious virtues, but got twisted into romance and love issues. Arthur and Lancelot were both Knights, and in the courtly love triangle the two men both believe they are like Knights.  The male identified as the 'jerk' is the Arthur, the one she is with, he saves her physically and financially in a evolutionist view of attraction.  The nice guy, is the Lancelot, who does everything for her and is there for her when she is sad, he is the emotional Knight. Both of them fight for the damsel, who recieves the social benefit of attention. So beware damsels in distress.

And Maf is right, strength isn't muscles or anything like that.  Fred Rogers has a great quote on strength and I'll try to find it.
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Himu

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2006, 11:28:24 PM »
This thread had NOTHING to do with relationships. GOD FUCKING DAMN PHOENIX DARK.
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2006, 11:30:12 PM »
This thread had NOTHING to do with relationships. GOD FUCKING DAMN PHOENIX DARK.

I would encourage everyone to put him on ignore until he learns how to be a decent human being.  Life here is sooooo much easier with ignore.
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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2006, 11:32:42 PM »
yeah phoenix dark is a jackass...I mean where the FUCK did that post come from?

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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2006, 11:36:59 PM »
 :lol :lol :lol

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etiolate

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« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2006, 01:39:10 AM »
This thread had NOTHING to do with relationships. GOD FUCKING DAMN PHOENIX DARK.

  :lol


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Re: Being nice doesn't pay off
« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2006, 04:15:22 AM »
you're not gonna start getting girls if you act like an asshole.  you'll just seem disgruntled and lame.  you have to find out a strategy that works for you, and you are comfortable with.

As for Phoenix, you are talking nonsense.  You are still in college.  Don't take time off to get yourself together.  Don't be content with the fact that you're not getting chicks.  This is the time to be chasing skirts.  It might seem tough, but it won't get any easier than this.  Don't feel like you're compromising your values by getting drunk and hooking up with other drunk people.

I think you were the one who said you were living in an off campus house.  I would highly suggest throwing parties.  Simply having an acceptable, "cool" reason to hang out with a girl is so important.  Girls are reluctant to hang out with guys they don't know very well, becuase it's awkward, and they don't want to worry about sending the wrong signals if they're not sure if they like you.  If you tell them to come to your party, they won't have to worry about these things, and you get to hang out with them.  Plus, half the battle of getting laid is getting a girl back to your house. 

The quantity and quality of girls I have been hooking up with this year has increased almost exponentially since I started throwing parties.