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Alpha Protocol
« on: May 07, 2009, 09:10:55 PM »
I had no idea what this was and I watched a video last night on the 360 - it seems pretty cool.  'Spy' and 'RPG' is a good start.  Anyone been following it at all?  Look promising?  Look shit? 

I don't like Bioware games much and since Obsidian usually does Bioware sequels I'm not getting my hopes up.

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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 09:20:07 PM »
Looks like shit.

Plus, it's a Sega published, made by Obsidian, Third PErson spy Action RPG, with a generic main character and no character creation tools.

This game is poised for failure.

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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 09:24:19 PM »
i've watched every damn vid that i could find and so far it looks pretty shitty

the concept sounds cool tho

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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 09:24:54 PM »
I've always enjoyed Obsidian's games, really looking forward to this. They also have a way of not ignoring the meat-and-potatoes side to RPGs (levels and loot), unlike Bioware's Mass Defect.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 09:25:04 PM »
Obsidian developed the awesome Neverwinter Nights 2, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 09:28:49 PM »
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 09:35:13 PM »
It's looking pretty good so far.  Only thing I don't like is how the main character looks too neutral.  I guess it's so he can fit any style of gameplay, but he just is so boring.


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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 09:42:33 PM »
I am looking forward to this game. I haven't heard any impressions or anything yet, so hopefully its coming along
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 10:21:29 PM »
The little bit of melee and shooting in the vid actually looked OK, and not horribly clunky as I'd expect.

Plus, it's a Sega published

I lolled when I saw that too.  SEGA on a box has become a liability more than anything now.

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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 10:29:08 PM »
I'm still in media blackout for this.  Never seen a video or a gameplay screenshot.  The concept sounds unworkable but everyone tells me Obsidian is the best wrpg developer out there so I should be really excited for it.  So I'm looking forward to it.

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« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 11:18:27 PM »
Sega + RPG is usually a good combo, so I'm interested. Yes I know it's a WRPG and it's not developed internally by them, but I'm willing to give the game the benefit of the doubt.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2009, 11:15:34 AM »
Mass Effect in present times.

Can't be anything but good.

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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2009, 11:43:49 AM »
Isn't this Obsidian's first original ip?

everyone tells me Obsidian is the best wrpg developer out there

CD Projekt says hi.


Yeah, this is their first original IP.

And Obsidian is a great up-and-coming WRPG developer, but so far they've only done two games and they were both sequels that had a good base to build from.

CD Projekt is another up-and-coming developer, but I need to see more than just one great game from them.
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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2009, 04:48:57 PM »
Isn't this Obsidian's first original ip?

everyone tells me Obsidian is the best wrpg developer out there

CD Projekt says hi.


Yeah, this is their first original IP.

And Obsidian is a great up-and-coming WRPG developer, but so far they've only done two games and they were both sequels that had a good base to build from.

CD Projekt is another up-and-coming developer, but I need to see more than just one great game from them.

But Obisidian is just Black Isle under a different name, so they aren't really an "up-and-coming" developer, but rather a longtime pro.

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2009, 06:16:57 PM »
Isn't this Obsidian's first original ip?

everyone tells me Obsidian is the best wrpg developer out there

CD Projekt says hi.


Yeah, this is their first original IP.

And Obsidian is a great up-and-coming WRPG developer, but so far they've only done two games and they were both sequels that had a good base to build from.

CD Projekt is another up-and-coming developer, but I need to see more than just one great game from them.

But Obisidian is just Black Isle under a different name, so they aren't really an "up-and-coming" developer, but rather a longtime pro.

I know, but they still need to re-establish themselves as being capable of putting out something other than sequels to castoff Bioware series, even if those two sequels are really good.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2009, 08:30:07 PM »
I know this will be shit but the prospect of James Bond the RPG makes me more excited than Demi watching Hot Fuzz or Shawn of the Dead
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2009, 08:40:05 PM »
I'll definitely get this, but I am still bitter over the media creaming over it a year ago, and then when they apparently showed it to them again a few months ago, they were like "THANK GOD THIS IS LOOKING BETTER THAN IT DID LAST YEAR.  IT'S ACTUALLY SHAPING UP."  They may as well just let the publisher's PR write their bullshit.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2009, 09:14:21 PM »
isn't that what happens now?
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2009, 09:44:21 PM »
It sounds awesome on paper. Spy thriller action RPG with Deus Ex-like skill system, and from a company that as far as I know is alright with stories. But at the same time, the whole Bond/Bourne thing will likely be shot in the cock by stiff animation and combat. I hope it's cool.

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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2009, 10:05:35 PM »
im worried about the combat, a real spy rpg should make combat virtually unnecessary
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2009, 12:25:07 AM »
I watched a few more vids on the weekend, and it looks rather dull.  The screen tearing in some vids was pretty horrendous too - I presume it's just the early builds, but if they're following Bioware's formula so closely I wouldn't be surprised if the tearing is in the final product.

Not a fan of huge boring dialogue branches either.

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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2009, 08:40:43 AM »
"Dull" is what I got from the vid too. Developers need to get over the whole "choosing which paths" and "shades of gray" mechanics.
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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2009, 11:44:13 AM »
Yikes, just watched some gameplay videos. If there was ever fair usage of the term "last-gen" then this would be it. Animation looks stiff as hell, which meshes very poorly with the whole action spy thriller theme. Either that, or they were aiming squarely for the Roger Moore style.

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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2009, 12:29:17 PM »
Game looks like shit.

Obsidian hasn't made a great game yet.

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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2009, 12:49:04 PM »
But it sounded totally Deus Ex on paper  :gloomy

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2009, 07:34:21 AM »
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/global-conspiracy-alpha-protocol/51868

pretty in-depth walthrough video here showing off the speech system, skills, weapon mods, gadgets, stealth sytem - basically the whole hog really.

The third-person shooting looks really decent now, that was my main worry.

It looks like it's come a long way - this could be the sleeper hit of 2009.

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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2009, 11:41:50 AM »
From that video it looks heavily inspired by Mass Effect's gameplay and skill system.
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2009, 11:49:19 AM »
Looks rough, but I like the theme. Hokey spy action, nothing wrong with that. The last bit felt a bit Metal Gear Solid, though.

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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2009, 12:49:41 PM »
Looks like fun, I'll definitely give it a shot.
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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2009, 10:55:45 PM »
From that video it looks heavily inspired by Mass Effect's gameplay and skill system.

It's Mass Effect re-skinned. That's how Obsidian works.

It has worked out pretty well for them so far, though.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2009, 07:53:03 AM »
I hope that this game is more balanced than Mass Effect, which you could beat by spamming Lift 90% of the battles.

I was hoping for a bit more variety in the skills and attributes. It looks like you can really only create 2 types of characters: stealth and non-stealth. Also, I didn't really care for the dialogue system. It seems way oversimplified, but I guess no one really plays games for the dialogue system anyways.  It still looks cool though, and I will definitely be checking it out.
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« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2009, 12:35:19 PM »
I play these types of games for the dialog systems.  :-[

I sure didn't play the Kotors, Jade Empire and Mass Effect for the gameplay.  :lol
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2009, 12:14:55 AM »
Looks better than a Bioware game

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« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2009, 12:19:25 AM »
It was awful when I played it a year ago.
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« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2009, 12:20:01 AM »
It was awful when I played it a year ago.

Sounds better than a Bioware game

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« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2009, 12:25:44 AM »
Poor BioWare :lol
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2009, 12:37:34 AM »
fuck you, mexican fence builder. i will be the judge of what sucks around here.
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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2009, 10:59:03 AM »
Looks like it has potential and is worth following.  I wish my PC was up to snuff so I could see if NWN2 delivered or not, but KotOR 2 did not. 

It's got Chris Avellone, though, and that would make any game warrant some hype.

I heard that KOTOR 2 sucked so hard because the developer was forced to put it out before they wanted to and had to cut unfinished stuff and the original planned ending.
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« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2009, 11:29:39 AM »
I've heard the same, but like I've said before elsewhere, I don't think I'm going to just blame LucasArts alone. 

Until Gizka finishes up, that game's a broken shell of what could have been, and a waste of $20.

Agreed.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2010, 10:37:36 AM »
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #40 on: February 25, 2010, 10:41:00 AM »
the setting is so goddamn boring.

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« Reply #41 on: February 25, 2010, 10:42:04 AM »
This looks amazing.
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« Reply #42 on: February 25, 2010, 10:43:02 AM »
the setting is so goddamn boring.

Yes, because a Tolkien or DnD-esque setting or another generic Star Wars setting would be soooo refreshing.

Modern settings are underused in rpgs, especially wrpgs.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2010, 10:46:23 AM »
I'm completely neutral on the title. It could be cool or it could suck ass. I haven't really seen anything that pushes me either way yet.

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« Reply #44 on: February 25, 2010, 10:46:35 AM »
i need to escape from reality bro and this just reminds me of my shitty, lonely virgin life.  :'(

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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #45 on: February 25, 2010, 10:46:58 AM »
Flop game.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #46 on: February 25, 2010, 10:48:44 AM »
The concept behind this game sounds interesting, but I'm still taking a 'wait and see' to see if the execution is up to par.
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« Reply #47 on: February 25, 2010, 10:51:57 AM »
i need to escape from reality bro and this just reminds me of my shitty, lonely virgin life.  :'(

Arms trafficking, war-torn Middle Eastern cities, and spies remind you of your life? :wtf
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« Reply #48 on: February 25, 2010, 10:55:38 AM »
i work for jinfash.

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« Reply #49 on: February 25, 2010, 01:19:51 PM »
i work for jinfash.

If that was true, there's no way you'd be a virgin...

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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #50 on: February 25, 2010, 01:39:45 PM »
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That was like...the corniest, cheesiest, worst acted......thing. EVER ahahaha

It's like those crazy ass movie knock offs. Holy shit.

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« Reply #51 on: February 25, 2010, 01:55:06 PM »
It's basically a mashup of the Bourne movies, James Bond, and 24, so that's kind of the point.
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Re: Alpha Protocol
« Reply #52 on: February 25, 2010, 07:21:34 PM »
That trailer was remarkably awful.  I'm looking forward to the game and that trailer has a "pass" vibe all over it.

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« Reply #53 on: February 25, 2010, 07:26:18 PM »
That trailer was remarkably awful.  I'm looking forward to the game and that trailer has a "pass" vibe all over it.

The graphics aren't great and the animation is pretty weak. That tends to make for a bad trailer. Although like I said I'm not really leaning either way on this one until I see more actual gameplay footage.

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« Reply #54 on: February 25, 2010, 08:38:50 PM »
The trailer looks awful but the trailer wasn't gameplay and I feel like the game will be amazing. 

Fallout/Planescape/NWN2 developers making a Bourne/Clancy style rpg?  So exciting.  Because A. It's never been done before and B. All these omgterrorists games have lol writing and one with great writing will be awesome.

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« Reply #55 on: February 25, 2010, 09:30:01 PM »
I dont care about the writing, if the gameplay is there this will be amazing because it's never been done.
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« Reply #56 on: February 25, 2010, 09:31:14 PM »
Well it is an rpg.....so good dialogue doesn't hurt :P

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« Reply #57 on: February 25, 2010, 11:49:39 PM »
That trailer was remarkably awful.  I'm looking forward to the game and that trailer has a "pass" vibe all over it.

The graphics aren't great and the animation is pretty weak. That tends to make for a bad trailer. Although like I said I'm not really leaning either way on this one until I see more actual gameplay footage.

It's not just the graphics, it's the entire presentation.  It looks cheesy and misrepresents the game.  You know, kinda like Dragon Age trailers.

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« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2010, 01:04:49 PM »
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« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2010, 01:37:07 PM »
Looks pretty awesome.

Especially the ammo that causes guys' clothes to catch on fire.  :lol
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