What are you playing?

[SantaC]

I just got my first party member and it does seem a bit weird.

the battle system is the real letdown.

[Rufus]

And I powered through F:NV - Lonesome Road as well.
This was OK. Not as bad as Honest Hearts, not as good as Sierra Madre or Old World Blues. Felt like a corridor-shooter and fake ED-E had a predictable arc, but there was still stuff to discover. Never really understood the other courier's motivation though, or why he starts sentences with verbs and avoids first person pronouns. Some mystique is interesting enough, I guess. But Fallout Riddick waxing philosophical about one man's influence is not really what I expeted from earlier teasing. Rather, I had hope it would be more than that. He basically happens to follow in your footsteps at a pivotal moment and gets obsessed about what ensued. I expected something more personal, though I suppose that would have felt cheap and random no matter what, seeing as how you don't really have a past.

Looking back, I find it hard to care about Fallout in general...

[StealthFan]

I didn't like the way Ulysses spoke. That kind of vague, mythological manner of speaking is fucking obnoxious when it is CONSTANT. The writers thought they were Cormac McCarthy.

[Rahxephon91]

You guys must play a lot of jrpgs to think ni no kuni is crap, last time I finished one must have been half a decade ago or more and Im loving it.

Sure it has some issues (take heart/ give heart zzz) but its really nice overall.

Il definayely having more fun with it then with Skyrim, Mass Effect 3 or Fallout New Vegas.

Maybe not crap, but it's nothing special beyond the presentation. Which in it self begins to wane as the game goes on. Lots of nice looking stuff, but it's all kind of generic looking in the end. The story and protag are kind of dumb and not at all engaging.

Also I just kind of found the battle system pretty one note. Like there's really no interesting mechanics to play around with. Resonance of Fate, Bravely Default, various SMT games, the XIII games, Last Remnant, ect all have some mechanics that are arguably interesting and fun to mess around with. Everything in Ni No Kuni just kind of felt like "yeah here's this monster system with no cool spin on it". "Here's this battle system where you run around and make timed attacks with no real spin to it". The game is just kind of there and it's not charming enough to get by with it's simple gameplay.

I'm maybe 30 hours into it. I haven't beaten it and I probably won't. The game really got a lot of praise because of presentation and the appearance of old jrpg stables.

[tiesto]

Guacamelee - beat the game, got all the orbs and powerups. I'm now doing the inferno challenges, thing I got about 9 of them down. Overall, I liked the game, as it was a Metroidvania-style game where you actually need to use platforming and memorize enemy patterns to win. I did get a bit sick of breaking enemy 'shields' and those enemies where you had to toggle between light/dark to beat. As well as the long hit-stun..

South Park: The Stick of Truth - nearing the end, gonna probably beat it over the next few days.

Gone Home - played through this yesterday. Yeah, these indie walking simulator games definitely are not for me. Also, for a 90's themed game, the music was fucking horrible. I did like the amount of interaction, it reminded me a lot of Shenmue, but without any of the entertaining gameplay hooks Shenmue had. Also the subject matter was definitely... different. Not really something I'd normally be into, nor is it anything relatable, but I'm glad that there are people out there making storylines different from your typical Star Wars/Lord of the Rings/Alien style storyline that most games follow.

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Was disappointed the game was pretty straightforward and extremely grounded with its storyline... I was thinking they would reveal a big twist, like your character was dead, or the family was dead, or there was some sort of supernatural element...

[close]

Ys 5 - so, one of the few Ys games I have left to beat. Judged on its own merits, it's not a bad game, but it feels like Random SNES Action RPG #213 than a Ys. Seriously, the more muted color palette, SNES synthesized classical music, more weighted sense of movement (and the fact you attack with a sword, the first in the game to have this), lack of cinematics/VA, and smaller areas are such a stark contrast to the fast paced, bright colors, 80's synthpop nature of Ys 1/2/4. I could see why this is one of the 2 'black sheep' of the series.

[SantaC]

You guys must play a lot of jrpgs to think ni no kuni is crap, last time I finished one must have been half a decade ago or more and Im loving it.

Sure it has some issues (take heart/ give heart zzz) but its really nice overall.

Il definayely having more fun with it then with Skyrim, Mass Effect 3 or Fallout New Vegas.

Maybe not crap, but it's nothing special beyond the presentation. Which in it self begins to wane as the game goes on. Lots of nice looking stuff, but it's all kind of generic looking in the end. The story and protag are kind of dumb and not at all engaging.

Also I just kind of found the battle system pretty one note. Like there's really no interesting mechanics to play around with. Resonance of Fate, Bravely Default, various SMT games, the XIII games, Last Remnant, ect all have some mechanics that are arguably interesting and fun to mess around with. Everything in Ni No Kuni just kind of felt like "yeah here's this monster system with no cool spin on it". "Here's this battle system where you run around and make timed attacks with no real spin to it". The game is just kind of there and it's not charming enough to get by with it's simple gameplay.

I'm maybe 30 hours into it. I haven't beaten it and I probably won't. The game really got a lot of praise because of presentation and the appearance of old jrpg stables.

gaf loved it, but it is typical gaf. They love anything that has slick graphics no matter how shallow the game is.

[Himu]

What I played of ni no kuni demo was baby's first jrpg.

[SantaC]

What I played of ni no kuni demo was baby's first jrpg.

it got plenty of handholding and it is linear.

[Himu]

More than that, I think you are doing the jrpg fanboy thing where they equate good gameplay as only mechanically rich battles. I find that does the series, and by the extension, the genre, a disservice. Final Fantasy games are usually fantastic at hidden secrets, easter eggs, sidequests, and exploration where it counts. In fact, I'd say, it's the best jrpg at this. FFVI has a broken battle system that's rarely challenging (though some dungeon in WoR push it depending on your gear) but it still has an open-ended approach that has a tremendous amount of hidden, missable side content that you have to dig to explore. I feel the same way about VII, VIII, X-2, and to a lesser extent IV, V, IX, and X. XII has it too. It's a big part of the series. Even 1 and II have exploring and talking to people and finding hidden shit to progress as a key feature. II even has text dialogue to figure out what to do.

But those things aren't really gameplay, are they? You are talking about story, world building, characters, variety, exploration in your first paragraph, and that's where the things you mention here would fall under in my opinion. I don't think you the genre a disservice if you say that some it's best games are fun because of exploration or world building and not because they have the best gameplay ever. Of course you may just have a different definition of gameplay, but that's another discussion.

Exploring is ganeplay for me. You explore Skyrim, that's game play. You do quests, that's game play. A big problem with RPG fans is they conflate battles as the only source of gameplay in rpgs. Or at least, the most important. I find exploration and quests a key part of RPG structure. But that's just me. If exploration isn't game play, what is it? Exploration leads to doing game things, like finding a new quest to get a cool weapon or discovering a hidden dungeon or finding a secret town.

[demi]

When this song kicked in during the ending...

[demi]

Got the Plat on Lone Survivor. While the presentation was great, the idea was nice, it was another indie wank title where the story was one of those "open ended" interpretation crap. So while there are 5 endings, they all feel and look the same. Even trying to read on it didnt help. Whatever.

Also the last three PS+ games I got were from this company - Curve Studios. Thomas Was Alone / Lone Survivor / Stealth Inc.

[ferrarimanf355]

Went back to Pinball Arcade after High Speed got added. Man, that table is easy, not even two hours and I have all but one wizard goal.

That being said, it just wets my appetite for The Getaway: High Speed II getting added...

[archie4208]

Just "finished" (as in deleted) Might and Magic X because the game is an imbalanced piece of shit.  You have to blow your load on every single encounter in the game and pray that the RNG is in your favor.  There is little in the way of good decision making that affects battles.

I like the game conceptually, but it is so poorly balanced that it isn't fun.  I'll gladly replay it if there is ever a patch that fixes the shitty aspects of the game.

[archnemesis]

I competed Might & Magic X and didn't have any issues with imbalance. Were you missing attacks or what was the issue? When you distribute points, don't ignore the perception stat. It's not easy to get a good party build without some experience. I restarted twice before I found a setup that I was decently satisfied with.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Put so much time in to hearthstone, still only got 1 leg

[archie4208]

I competed Might & Magic X and didn't have any issues with imbalance. Were you missing attacks or what was the issue? When you distribute points, don't ignore the perception stat. It's not easy to get a good party build without some experience. I restarted twice before I found a setup that I was decently satisfied with.

Blademaster, Scout, Freemage x2 (which is my second party.  My original party was Defender, Crusader, Ranger and Freemage.)

I kept on getting stuck in the Lost City with one particular encounter (2 elite mages, 2 elite brigands and 2 elite militia captains).  I was also playing on Warrior mode which is probably a dumb idea.

[archnemesis]

You might lose some nerd cred by lowering the difficulty to Adventurer but it's worth it. It will give you some margin for errors and you don't have to min-max everything all the time. If it becomes too easy you could simply stop allocating points for a while.

In the Lost City there is a level (3, IIRC) that you want to avoid until you've been to the floor below. Also, don't forget to abuse buffs before going into combat.

[iconoclast]

Just finished my Dark Souls 2 Soul Level 1 + Champion's Covenant (hard mode) run. I tried to use melee exclusively whenever possible, but I started using pyromancy during the abyss stages (fuck those blue phantoms) and the Throne Watcher & Defender fight. When I started this run, I thought Darklurker would be the only huge pain in the ass (because he splits at 50%), but as it turns out, the Throne Watcher & Defender fight was like 100x harder than anything else in the entire series. The Champion's Covenant buff makes almost all of their attacks 1-shot you and it's hard to ever find an opening to counterattack because they're always right next to each other. So I wound up two-handing a 100% defense shield and using the butterfly armor set to slowly poison them. And even with that method, the fight was still much harder than anything else in the game imo.

My total death count at the end was 955. In comparison, I died 450~ times in my naked/no rings*/no shield/melee only run of Dark Souls: PTDE. So I think it's safe to say that I found DS2 a lot harder, even without as many restrictions.

*I think I used the red tearstone ring for Kalameet because he's resistant to fire & lightning


I also got 1.021 billion in Dodonpachi Daioujou (White Label) the other day on MAME.

[archie4208]

You might lose some nerd cred by lowering the difficulty to Adventurer but it's worth it. It will give you some margin for errors and you don't have to min-max everything all the time. If it becomes too easy you could simply stop allocating points for a while.

In the Lost City there is a level (3, IIRC) that you want to avoid until you've been to the floor below. Also, don't forget to abuse buffs before going into combat.

I learned the hard way you can't change the difficulty.

I even downloaded a hex editor to try and make the game easier.

I just threw up my hands and rage deleted it.  I'll probably restart (again) this weekend.

[demi]

Lol. Increased difficulty in RPGs isnt worth it. It clearly isnt "balanced" around it. It's certainly no Souls difficulty.

[chronovore]

Just finished my Dark Souls 2 Soul Level 1 + Champion's Covenant (hard mode) run. I tried to use melee exclusively whenever possible, but I started using pyromancy during the abyss stages (fuck those blue phantoms) and the Throne Watcher & Defender fight. When I started this run, I thought Darklurker would be the only huge pain in the ass (because he splits at 50%), but as it turns out, the Throne Watcher & Defender fight was like 100x harder than anything else in the entire series. The Champion's Covenant buff makes almost all of their attacks 1-shot you and it's hard to ever find an opening to counterattack because they're always right next to each other. So I wound up two-handing a 100% defense shield and using the butterfly armor set to slowly poison them. And even with that method, the fight was still much harder than anything else in the game imo.

My total death count at the end was 955. In comparison, I died 450~ times in my naked/no rings*/no shield/melee only run of Dark Souls: PTDE. So I think it's safe to say that I found DS2 a lot harder, even without as many restrictions.

*I think I used the red tearstone ring for Kalameet because he's resistant to fire & lightning


I also got 1.021 billion in Dodonpachi Daioujou (White Label) the other day on MAME.

You're a mad beast. Well, you may or may not be mad, but you ARE a beast.

[demi]

GameFly sent me Thief, so now I have a new game to play and stream for my lovely viewers

[Yulwei]

Been playing a lot of Street Fighter IV recently, what with Ultra coming up pretty soon and everything. My main got nerfed so I'm looking for a new character to pick up but I just can't decide. Too many characters..

[a slime appears]

GameFly sent me Thief, so now I have a new game to play and stream for my lovely viewers

I'll watch!

[StealthFan]

After Max Payne 2 I am never surprised when injuries in games are rendered irrelevant. Shit they've been doing it in films since the dawn of the medium.

[Positive Touch]

lol the whole games like that. even if she woulda killed every single person on the island she woulda dropped dead ten times over from diseases from all the filth she climbs thru.

[Himu]

Shit kinda drove me nuts for a second. She took a rusty nail right through the kidney, waded through germy water filled with dead bodies, then got her ass kicked for like 30 minutes straight, now she's OK?

Yeah game is crazy

[cool breeze]

they should've lifted the healing and eating from MGS3.  the tagline is "a survivor is born" but it's 99% killing people (with a bow), sometimes before they've seen you. 

[brob]

the video early on where laura sobs as she eats raw deer like it's a post-breakup tub of ben & jerry's suggest they at one point wanted such a system, imo. shame it didn't make it in for whatever reason.

[Rahxephon91]

As a straight up western shooty AAA game, I enjoyed Tomb Raider. It kind of has nothing special about it. Just a solid controlling shooter.

[chronovore]

the video early on where laura sobs as she eats raw deer like it's a post-breakup tub of ben & jerry's suggest they at one point wanted such a system, imo. shame it didn't make it in for whatever reason.

FWIW, it was a five year development cycle. A lot of stuff was put in, revised, dropped... and in some cases put back in again!

Also: Lara, not Laura.

[Himu]

why was she eating raw deer when she's on an island full of trees and kindle to make a fire

Aren't savepoints even campfires in that game? I don't remember.

[Joe Molotov]

they should've lifted the healing and eating from MGS3.

I'm playing Tomb Raider, what's this prruuwwuuuuuuuuuu sound??

[Raban]

holy shit I almost forgot about pruuuwwwuuu

[magus]

that new suda 51 games got released yesterday but i can't find any review,impressions or anybody talking about it...



does anybody here on thebore cares and/or knows anything about this game?

EDIT: oh wow, according to a review i found it's a 30 minute long runner and the real draw is that it's part of an anime series made of 4 other anime shorts including an oscar nominated one

here's a trailer of the anime short dvd

[Himu]

I refuse to fall for the Suda trap ever again.

[StealthFan]

Crisis Core

[The Sceneman]

playing Terraria on 360 as the the 1.2 update is on consoles now. They added so much shit omg

I still can't figure out wether or not the new stuff is required for the achievements or my game glitched or something. Still I shouldn't really care as the game is so much fun I don't mind killing a bunch of slimes again

[SantaC]

Still playing Final Fantasy XII International edition. (with translation patch)

It is amazing how much better it is than the regular one.

• For starters, the job system is brilliant. No more carbon copies of all characters like in regular FF12. You have 12 different jobs to choose from. Once you pick a job, you cannot change it. You get your own licenseboard
• Then the quickenings is improved as well. They are more useful now when they no longer require any MP
  
• Espers are also improved. You now have full control over them and can even put them as your party leader.
• Guest characters can now level up, and you can change their gambit (this was not possible in regular edition)
• There are some extra abilities and gambits
• Damage cap is removed. You can now hit more than 9999 dmg. Extremely useful
• There is a fast forward button that makes you move with 10x speed over boring areas
• Some other minor improvements as well. Some weapons have higher STR stat etc

It's like a total new experience and I am happy I gave it a try.

[Himu]

Characters were carbon copies in FF12 if you MADE them carbon copies. That said, the jobs sound like they really improve the experience and give a much better reason to use the whole party.

[SantaC]

Characters were carbon copies in FF12 if you MADE them carbon copies. That said, the jobs sound like they really improve the experience and give a much better reason to use the whole party.

yes that's what I meant. In FF12 regular edition, all characters had the same licenseboard which means no character were unique in terms of equipment and abilities.

[Rahxephon91]

At the end of the day I'm not sure why I would want to limit the development of my characters. It seems like pretty shitty mechanics when I have to handicap myself just to make the character development system not balls. You get plenty of LP that it's not even hard to have most of the stuff unlocked mid way through the game.

I'm I'm 20 hours in on this what 6th FFXII playthrough I started maybe a year ago and I already have most of the LP that I need done.

Anyway, I've been playing Gravity Rush. Every time I played the game in demo forum it always felt like the controls where a bit unwieldy. Playing the full I guess changes my mind since it's a bit better to move around. Combat still seems pretty boring though and having to touch swipe to dodge feels pretty shitty. I'm also not too hot on the camera controls, because when you move the "aiming" reticle it just feels slow and un-precise. Which is kind of a big deal because it plays a huge part in the world traversal.

I don't know how I feel about this game.

[magus]

Since i saw some people here on thebore talking about the new Isaac i gave a try to the old one but it's pretty frustating

I have a really easy time on the first 4-5 level but when i reach cave 2 i always die without reaching the boss so any suggestion?

[Raban]

The learning curve on Isaac is really extreme. The best advice I can give (outside of knowing which items blend well with others) is you really have to pay attention to the movement that's available to you and get better at curving your shots.

When I first played the game the Caves were a roadblock for a long time, but the further you get, you'll unlock more powerful items that'll help you get even further.

[Yulwei]

Since i saw some people here on thebore talking about the new Isaac i gave a try to the old one but it's pretty frustating

I have a really easy time on the first 4-5 level but when i reach cave 2 i always die without reaching the boss so any suggestion?

play the first 3 or 4 levels over and over again until you get an OP combination of powers

[Himu]

At the end of the day I'm not sure why I would want to limit the development of my characters. It seems like pretty shitty mechanics when I have to handicap myself just to make the character development system not balls. You get plenty of LP that it's not even hard to have most of the stuff unlocked mid way through the game.

I'm I'm 20 hours in on this what 6th FFXII playthrough I started maybe a year ago and I already have most of the LP that I need done.

Because copy pasta characters bore me. I don't get the point of playing an RPG where the characters all have the same skillset. And you're not really handicapping yourself. The grid is in a specific way so that you can choose what you want. If you teach everyone magic, that is on you. If you teach everyone swords, that's on you. The board is designed and even grouped in a way that you can choose what characters learn depending on their preferences. Swords are always grouped together, lances, staves, magic, abilities are all grouped together. The game even hints that the optimal way of playing is to cone up with your own plan since each character starts on their own unique area.

[Positive Touch]

but with ff12 you can limit yourself if you want or you can get everything if you don't give a shit. everyone wins except the spergs who need overbearing rules for safe playtime.

[Himu]

Exactly. Everyone wins with FF12.

[Rufus]

Guacamelee
Fun. Combat can get a bit chaotic. Hard to get your hits in sometimes, especially with those flying enemies. Not so hot on the platforming when it gets really difficult. Tried to get to the treetops (?) yesterday and had to throw in the towel after the third or fourth screen. I feel like I need to put some of the controls on foot pedals just so I don't stumble over my own fingers. And maybe it's just me, but I mix up the powers, i.e. I'll press X to use the blue power, because the button is blue on the Xbox controller.

Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey
OK, this has me hooked. Played until my battery ran out yesterday. First Megaten game I play where you actually negotiate with the demons and so far thats fun, even though the buggers are quite capricious. Not sure if there's any consistency to their responses, but it hasn't pissed me off so far. It's a great way to save your resources while you're exploring a floor of the dungeon. I also like the way alignment plays into everything from negotiations to exploiting weaknesses during combat, because only the demons with the matching alignment will get an extra attack.
One small UI thing that's annoying me is that the quest log and the other menus are separate, you can't switch from one to the other directly. I know half the reason it annoys me is me pressing the wrong button in the first place, but the setup is weird regardless.

[Rahxephon91]

Yes and I don't teach everyone everything in 12, because I basically stop developing the characters midway through the game. It's a boring character progression because you can easily get most things even when you're trying to "mold" characters. LP are pretty abundant. Since characters have such little affinity it dosen't even matter who you build a party with as they are all basically the same upfront. Who cares in Penelo is maybe a bit better with magic, it dosen't matter even in the short run. So really at the end it's just me saying "I'll use these LP to give you swords and you bows  I have 500 LPs left, but I guess I'm done doing anything with you, because I only want you to use magic and swords even though there's no real benefit other then I want the character to be special". There's no real thought in it though, it's not like I'm thinking which character is better suited for such-n-such. Or how can I make this character the best with this moveset. It's just me saying "you use swords and magic". Thats it.

But since the characters are so bland in thier stats, it dosen't do anything to try and mix and match. In X, I don't stop character progression  at the end. Rikku is such a fast character. So why don't I put her on Yuna's grid as she can probably have far more turns at healing then Yuna. Or maybe make her like Tidus and have tons of turns with decent damage. Maybe have Auron have the accuracy of Wakka or Lulu the health boost of Auron's grid. Even XIII has a less exciting version of this.

But in XII the answer to having interesting characters is to "just not actually do anything with them". Thats not really good and I don't see that as valid choice, because I'm making the choice of not playing the game. The characters don't feel unique from the start.

It's a very boring system.

[Himu]

Few customization FF games have a major difference between characters. In games like FFV and XII it isn't a question of "this character is good at this so I will cover cover their weakness or improve their strength" except in small cases. FF has never been like that. Almost ever. Except in X. Even in FF1, you choose a party for practicality, gut, and mood. FF customization is mostly "I want to do this, so I'm going to do this." It is more free form and has very little to do with stats. In XII, I think Penelo's character fits the archetype of white image so I usually have her use only staves and white magic. That is usually the appeal of FF customization for me. Which is far more preferable to be where the goal is to make characters as similar as possible by end game.

If you look at every FF where customization is important, almost all of them are similar when it comes to brass tacks. Make the whole party knight in FFV and see what their stats are. Or all berserker in X-2. Or have everyone learn every esper in VI. Same shit.

The appeal of XII's board isn't that the characters are the same. The appeal is that you have a blank slate, and you use the board to mold them into your own thing. This is the opposite of X where each character is unique and you mold them into similar entities to cover weaknesses and enhance strength. If you make them into all the same, good for you. If you make them all have their own roles, even better!

Your complaint mainly seems to be that FFXII isn't as structured or guided like X, and it is a series wide issue. If you want a class system where stats are important, play Dragon Quest III.

[magus]

all of the FF12 fight boils down to casting, bubble,lure,hastega,curaga,bravery and occasionaly reverse so i'm not sure why you guys are getting your panties in a twist

[Himu]

And all of VII's fights boil down to hitting attack. What's your point?

[SantaC]

all of the FF12 fight boils down to casting, bubble,lure,hastega,curaga,bravery and occasionaly reverse so i'm not sure why you guys are getting your panties in a twist

in FF12 int - only the white mage class has access to hastega and curaja.

[Yulwei]

That JRPGs are shit? 

but seriously ff12 needed even less interaction than the typical FF game.

on a side note; Lighting Returns has an awesome combat system and i'd like to see future FFs use it

[magus]

And all of VII's fights boil down to hitting attack. What's your point?

that resetting the game several times for the golden chocobo required at least more effort than programming a macro to let the game play itself

all of the FF12 fight boils down to casting, bubble,lure,hastega,curaga,bravery and occasionaly reverse so i'm not sure why you guys are getting your panties in a twist

in FF12 int - only the white mage class has access to hastega and curaja.

ah... that i'm curios, did they modify bubble in any way? what class would be able to cast it? if i remember right there is an accessory that auto-cast bubble on you so i guess that setup would still be doable

[Himu]

If you set up an entire arrangement of gambits and then complain that the game plays itself you're a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

Also, XII has a lot of fights that require a lot of planning and effort. Much more than VII.

[tiesto]

Playing Memories of Celceta now... loving it so far but I'm not crazy about all the loot-y aspects of it. Part of why I love the Ys games so much is because they keep it simple; no extraneous subsystems like alchemy in it, but this game has a few things like that (trade in gold bars for gold ingots which you can use to make your Short Sword a Short Sword +1 with enhanced poison resistance). Thankfully it seems like it can be easily ignored for now. The world map seems rather large too, in a nice contrast from the super-small world of the last Ys game I played, #5. I just beat the river town quest so I'm not too far in, but overall I really like it.

[Himu]

I'm at the tail end of FFX HD. I don't have the time nor the patience for the end game in this game, so I'm going to learn Stone Proof to my guys, get the rest of the celestial weapons, and beat the game.

Since I'm still in an FF mood, and I beat FFVII before X HD, I kind of want a break from Spira. I'm starting a new game of FFVI. Haven't played it in a very long time.



Magus still mad.

Stay mad.

[magus]

I'm at the tail end of FFX HD. I don't have the time nor the patience for the end game in this game, so I'm going to learn Stone Proof to my guys, get the rest of the celestial weapons, and beat the game.

Since I'm still in an FF mood, and I beat FFVII before X HD, I kind of want a break from Spira. I'm starting a new game of FFVI. Haven't played it in a very long time. Magus still mad.

i told you it would end like this, but did you listen?