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BobFromPikeCreek

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28620 on: September 30, 2016, 11:03:49 AM »
Now, in addition to Duelyst, I'm addicted to Paladins.

HELP. I'VE FALLEN INTO F2P PC GAMES AND I CAN'T GET UP. :'(
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28621 on: September 30, 2016, 08:20:33 PM »
Really? It took me like 3/4 sessions. Probably also indicative of how appealing it is to me as I can sit 2/3 hours and play WoW no problem if there is some time.

It's probably just not your kind of experience? Did you play Flower? It feels similar.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28622 on: September 30, 2016, 09:39:43 PM »
I don't get how it can be that bad?  I mean I kindaaaaa think VLR is sorta bad since a huge chunk of those 18 hours so far have been repeating the same exact events from slightly different viewpoints.  Even though people say you can skip stuff you've already seen, that's not even really true because most branches have the same exact scenes playing out but the group setups are different so it's technically "new" dialogue and you just gotta power tap O through it all.

I mean it was good at the start in the first run, it had some interesting moments and twists in the lead up to locks, and this endgame is fun, so I like it, but holy fuck did this game waste my time making me replay the same 2-3 hour scenario 18 friggen times.  I played 999 twice and it was so much better it's not even funny.
Yeah imagine your frustration with VLR x10. You have the same scenarios where you have to do it again and pick a different choice except now instead of making a choice and doing several hours worth of stuff sometimes it's literally <3 minutes and then you have to do the scenario again. And the plot changes are so nonsensical that instead of being shocking they're just sorta eyeroll worthy
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28623 on: September 30, 2016, 10:06:25 PM »
So you still have to redo the scenarios over and over?  K, I'm out.  I'll watch some vids

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28624 on: October 01, 2016, 09:11:47 AM »
Playing Gone Home now, walking sim I didnt expect much of but its reall good, like how the story is built up.

Already bought Virginia which will be up next.

Really? It took me like 3/4 sessions. Probably also indicative of how appealing it is to me as I can sit 2/3 hours and play WoW no problem if there is some time.

It's probably just not your kind of experience? Did you play Flower? It feels similar.

I think my name is in the credits of flower :p

it was alright I think

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28625 on: October 03, 2016, 11:31:51 PM »
My review of Virtue's Last Reward after finishing it 24 hours in:

Dude
That was
so dumb

Long version:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=218980262#post218980262
« Last Edit: October 04, 2016, 12:19:00 AM by Bebpo »

Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28626 on: October 04, 2016, 03:44:53 AM »
Well, after looking around a bit Zero Time Dilemma actually looks like a game I might like more than VLR, especially since most people love VLR and hate ZTD and I seem to go against the grain on VLR.  Also a lot of the hate ZTD gets seems to be about it's graphics or english voice acting (I played VLR in Japanese audio and plan to do the same with ZTD) and honestly I don't care about graphics/animation in games much anymore.  Picked up ZTD on Vita, will give it a shot.

You know, I went back and re-read what I wrote on gaf about VLR earlier because idk, a lot of people seemed defensive like I trashed the game and was hateful.  I thought maybe I'd been too hard on it.  But re-reading my blog thing, it wasn't particularly negative other than saying the story was kinda dumb and the repetition events you can't skip through & re-used puzzles are lame (which I think are totally fair complaints).  Otherwise I said the puzzle rooms were good and most of the cast was good.  Reads like a 7/10 review to me, which is my rating of it.  Not a bad game, not a great game, just sorta ok.  Has postives but enough negatives to balance them  /shrug
« Last Edit: October 04, 2016, 04:03:00 AM by Bebpo »

tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28627 on: October 04, 2016, 10:38:37 PM »
Enjoying Suikoden 5, I'm about 15 hours in and just made it to Agate Prison. Speaking of "Agate", this is the Suikoden game that reminds me the most of the Trails series. Large towns with lots of NPCs to talk to and lots of little events and a slowly-building story. I like it even if the whole concept of a whole bunch of people fighting in a tournament to win a loli's hand in marriage was kinda weird. Battles are nice and easy so far, there's actually a few dungeons here and there, music isn't bad (except in one village which is supposed to be purposely bad I think...). Game is quite ugly though, colors are all washed out, textures are blurry, geometry is simplistic. The series should have stuck to 2D since Suikoden 2 looks so stunning, and the 3D games all looked terrible even for their time (well 3 was alright looking I guess). Game is much better so far than 4, which was one of the worst RPGs ever made I think...
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28628 on: October 06, 2016, 02:18:24 AM »
Played some Transformers Devastation, its pretty damn cool imho.  Looks and sounds thebpart, gameplay so far is aight and feels good.

If it kees up this level Ill prob get Turtles too at some point.

Please a GI Joe game now Platinum.

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« Reply #28629 on: October 06, 2016, 11:02:17 AM »
I bought Carmageddon: Max Damage on PS4 for 15 bucks.. cheap enough since I wanted to play that for awhile.

Been having fun with it, sure it controls like Carma 2000 but thats a good thing ( I think ).

Its like the Dead Rising of racing games
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28630 on: October 06, 2016, 11:24:18 AM »
LOL, everyone who loved Transformers thought the same for Turtles.


Then we all played Turtles.



Now we hate Platinum. LOL
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chronovore

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28631 on: October 06, 2016, 11:59:21 AM »
Started playing Furi. Bullet-hell moments plus Dodge and Parry and charged stuff... I don't think this game is for me, particularly if the needed response to enemies is shown as a QTE in each instance.

Mordor's sloppy controls starting to get to me now that BRAND has been mapped to Circle, which also will "drop to hang" if I'm on a wall. Whether or not I press RT to enact Stealth Brand seems to be arbitrarily respected (or not) by the game. Either I'm missing something (I'm not) or the controls are iffy.

tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28632 on: October 06, 2016, 05:23:41 PM »
LOL, everyone who loved Transformers thought the same for Turtles.


Then we all played Turtles.



Now we hate Platinum. LOL

Until Nier Automata of course...
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El Babua

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28633 on: October 06, 2016, 08:49:40 PM »
Enjoying Suikoden 5, I'm about 15 hours in and just made it to Agate Prison. Speaking of "Agate", this is the Suikoden game that reminds me the most of the Trails series. Large towns with lots of NPCs to talk to and lots of little events and a slowly-building story. I like it even if the whole concept of a whole bunch of people fighting in a tournament to win a loli's hand in marriage was kinda weird. Battles are nice and easy so far, there's actually a few dungeons here and there, music isn't bad (except in one village which is supposed to be purposely bad I think...). Game is quite ugly though, colors are all washed out, textures are blurry, geometry is simplistic. The series should have stuck to 2D since Suikoden 2 looks so stunning, and the 3D games all looked terrible even for their time (well 3 was alright looking I guess). Game is much better so far than 4, which was one of the worst RPGs ever made I think...

Enjoy it. Best 3D Suikoden and in my top 2 series wise (can't decide between it and 2).

Unfortunately, I don't think the battles ever get much harder tbh.

Yulwei

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28634 on: October 07, 2016, 12:13:58 AM »
Haven't had time for more traditional gaming so I've been playing Vainglory on my phone. It's a really good and polished moba that can be played in bursts of 5-10 mins thanks to its battle royale mode. It even has a longer more normal mode that lasts 15-20+ mins per match. Recommend it to anyone who enjoys LoL.


chronovore

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28635 on: October 07, 2016, 02:00:58 AM »
I've been lured back to Destiny. A friend really enjoys it, and my son's going crazy for it.

My friend wants me to get the DLC so we can play his LVL 40 character instead of grinding my LVL 25 character. The Destiny Collection has come out, and it covers all the DLC and has the vanilla game, but I don't feel like dropping US$60 on it because I'm already playing the vanilla version. Are there cheaper ways to get the DLC?

fistfulofmetal

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28636 on: October 07, 2016, 07:32:22 AM »
Played some This Is This Police which is kind of like a story driven police management sim with aspects of Papers, Please mixed in.

On the 2nd or 3rd day the game gave me an alert that there was a racist gang in my city and they are saying they're going to openly kill black people so city hall is demanding I fire all of the black cops.  :o
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28637 on: October 07, 2016, 03:59:22 PM »
Well, after looking around a bit Zero Time Dilemma actually looks like a game I might like more than VLR, especially since most people love VLR and hate ZTD and I seem to go against the grain on VLR.  Also a lot of the hate ZTD gets seems to be about it's graphics or english voice acting (I played VLR in Japanese audio and plan to do the same with ZTD) and honestly I don't care about graphics/animation in games much anymore.  Picked up ZTD on Vita, will give it a shot.

You know, I went back and re-read what I wrote on gaf about VLR earlier because idk, a lot of people seemed defensive like I trashed the game and was hateful.  I thought maybe I'd been too hard on it.  But re-reading my blog thing, it wasn't particularly negative other than saying the story was kinda dumb and the repetition events you can't skip through & re-used puzzles are lame (which I think are totally fair complaints).  Otherwise I said the puzzle rooms were good and most of the cast was good.  Reads like a 7/10 review to me, which is my rating of it.  Not a bad game, not a great game, just sorta ok.  Has postives but enough negatives to balance them  /shrug
OOoh  :uguu

I can't wait to see your thoughts. I hated the repetition and silliness. Do post your impressions as you play through it!
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Joe Molotov

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28638 on: October 07, 2016, 04:03:32 PM »
I loved all the Zero Escape games. :rejoice
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28639 on: October 07, 2016, 04:08:11 PM »
Even ZTD? :hitler
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28640 on: October 07, 2016, 04:11:35 PM »
Yes. :rejoice
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28641 on: October 07, 2016, 04:23:30 PM »
when you arent jaded and enjoy your hobby :rejoice
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28642 on: October 07, 2016, 09:10:28 PM »
Well, after looking around a bit Zero Time Dilemma actually looks like a game I might like more than VLR, especially since most people love VLR and hate ZTD and I seem to go against the grain on VLR.  Also a lot of the hate ZTD gets seems to be about it's graphics or english voice acting (I played VLR in Japanese audio and plan to do the same with ZTD) and honestly I don't care about graphics/animation in games much anymore.  Picked up ZTD on Vita, will give it a shot.

You know, I went back and re-read what I wrote on gaf about VLR earlier because idk, a lot of people seemed defensive like I trashed the game and was hateful.  I thought maybe I'd been too hard on it.  But re-reading my blog thing, it wasn't particularly negative other than saying the story was kinda dumb and the repetition events you can't skip through & re-used puzzles are lame (which I think are totally fair complaints).  Otherwise I said the puzzle rooms were good and most of the cast was good.  Reads like a 7/10 review to me, which is my rating of it.  Not a bad game, not a great game, just sorta ok.  Has postives but enough negatives to balance them  /shrug
OOoh  :uguu

I can't wait to see your thoughts. I hated the repetition and silliness. Do post your impressions as you play through it!

My impressions a couple of hours in is wtf why is there so much psycho murder going on right off the bat  :lol
Akane's chasing people around with chainsaws.  This shit's crazy!

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28643 on: October 08, 2016, 01:41:30 AM »
just wait.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28644 on: October 09, 2016, 07:19:26 PM »
I'm playing all 4 US Persona games (well, the PSP remakes of 1 and 2 Innocent Sin), concurrently, all for the first time.
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demi

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28645 on: October 10, 2016, 11:51:00 AM »
Finished Quantum Break - Enjoyed it somewhat, the final boss and ending are crap. Got hit by some sort of glitched achievement or late unlocking one so currently 980/1000 which is annoying.

Finished NBA17 The Prelude - Free demo with achievements, nothing to say. I made a white guy yet he's still really black. Must come with the territory.

About to finish Amnesia: Memories on Vita - my first "otome" game that was on PS+ (Code: Realize is another). Nothing much to say here, lots of girly boys vying for my love while discovering they're all sorts of fucked up. One of them locks you in a dog cage. Easy plat.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28646 on: October 11, 2016, 04:05:45 PM »
when you arent jaded and enjoy your hobby :rejoice

What does this have to do with ZTD being a shit sequel demi-kun

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28647 on: October 14, 2016, 01:49:53 PM »
Tried the Dragonball Xenoverse 2 open-beta.  Made a character.  CONNECTION TO SERVER FAILED.

Tried the CoD Infinite Warfare beta.  THE GAME WILL NOW RESTART DUE TO AN UPDATE FAILURE.  Loops.

Great beta tests, guys.
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archie4208

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28648 on: October 16, 2016, 08:05:26 AM »
Playing Transformers Devastation makes me want to just play Bayonetta instead.  :fbm

seagrams hotsauce

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28649 on: October 16, 2016, 05:30:58 PM »
Played like 12 hours of Grim Dawn in the last two days, so I guess I like it quite a bit

MMaRsu

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28650 on: October 17, 2016, 10:38:43 AM »
Gonna be playing some God Hand today, im in the mood

What

chronovore

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28651 on: October 17, 2016, 07:43:17 PM »
Thanks for that right up. I have been waffling on whether or not to get mafia, as I am crazy about open world games but have always been unsure on the series.? You one and two are not inherently open world.

Beezy

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28652 on: October 17, 2016, 08:06:19 PM »
Really early on in SMT4: Apocalypse. Just feels like an expansion of 4 which I really enjoyed, so I have no problem with that.

Still playing Forza Horizon 3 whenever I get a chance. Such a great game. Archie is the only person on my friendlist who has played anywhere near as much as me. I've mainly played offline, but I'll try to mess with the online modes a bit this week.

tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28653 on: October 17, 2016, 10:02:25 PM »
More Suikoden V, just rescued the Beavers.

Man, some of the hoops you have to jump through to recruit characters in this one is pretty crazy, and it's so easy to permanently miss someone. I'm reading the FAQ like it's the bible.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28654 on: October 18, 2016, 08:45:24 AM »
Gotta feel good to finally use that XP.

Mr. Nobody

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28655 on: October 18, 2016, 06:23:22 PM »
I'm about as done with Soul Hackers as I'm going to be. Good game but fuck that final boss  :trash

tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28656 on: October 19, 2016, 09:14:05 PM »
Getting towards the end of Suikoden 5, but I'm starting to grow very frustrated with it. People who put this up there with 2 are off their rocker, while it's not the weakest game in the series by any means, 1, 2, Tierkries and maybe even 3 and Tactics were more enjoyable for me. Long-ass dungeons with high random encounter rates (one of the stages had a bunch of un-escapable battles) and lots of RTS battles. If I wanted to play an RTS (I don't, I hate the genre) I'd play Starcraft or Total Annihilation or whatever.
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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28657 on: October 20, 2016, 04:12:50 AM »
Finished Tokyo Xanadu EX+.  Long, long game.  I actually thought it was going to be about 30 hours because it was an arpg and Falcom arpgs like Ys or Nayuta no Kiseki are typically 10-30 hours.  I took a break from Persona 5 and Tales of Berseria to finish this first because of that, but then it turns out it's 60-90 hours long  :lol :'( 

Took me about 60 hours.  If you've played Cold Steel 1, it's a lot like it.  In fact parts of the game are built out of left-over files from Cold Steel 1 (there's literally data-mined CS1 music tracks that weren't used that are now TX tracks).  The game is a very slow paced, mostly episodic game and has the same CS focus on having a million NPCs in town that all have their own lives and stories that update all the time, which is kinda of nice even if you don't go out of the way to talk to everyone as you're bound to notice some of the recurring npcs and how their tales advance.  The main plot is very thin, and for the most part the game is an FC game to a new Tokyo Xanadu franchise, so it introduces stuff and asks some questions, but nothing really interesting or exciting happens in this game, even 60 hours later, instead it says "This is only the beginning and either your party or someone else's party in TX2 will continue the story".  There's like 50 dungeons or something in the game and they're quick and fun (which is funny since quick is the opposite of the non-dungeon pacing).  The dungeon crawling and combat is essentially Ys Seven/Celceta/Eight with S-Crafts and Quartz from Kiseki.  Same 3-party instant switching to hit weaknesses as the last 3 Ys.  It works well here.  There's a ton of boss fights and on the higher difficulties it can be fairly intense. 

The characters are kind of flat, and the game's narrative is essentially PG-rated and really safe and predictable.  But there's lots of mini-games, cooking, questing, and optional dungeons to keep it entertaining.  If the game was half the length it'd be a much better game like Cold Steel 1 imo, but as is it's still a good game and as long as you know what you're getting into with regards to the pace and it being an FC game, it can be a fun ride. 

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28658 on: October 21, 2016, 11:17:51 PM »
yeah yeah beb. Where's your ZTD impressions.
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Mr. Nobody

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28659 on: October 22, 2016, 12:51:31 PM »
Started Suikoden. Never played this series before but always heard it talked about. It's nice so far

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Bebpo

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28660 on: October 22, 2016, 01:37:07 PM »
yeah yeah beb. Where's your ZTD impressions.

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Look forward to it!

Positive Touch

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28661 on: October 22, 2016, 03:42:27 PM »
Started Suikoden. Never played this series before but always heard it talked about. It's nice so far

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28662 on: October 23, 2016, 11:43:16 AM »
going back to the time before companies cared about their overseas translations is rough

Playing back through some PS1 games recently and Star Ocean 2 had probably the worst translation out of all the major JRPGs. All the writing is so stiff and awkward, and half the time nearly incoherent. It's barely a step above a straight machine translation.
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« Reply #28663 on: October 23, 2016, 12:12:29 PM »
yep i bought it at release iirc and was furious at how bad it was. some of the story scenes are so long too, and it's just endless near-incomprehensible text. never gave the series a second shot after that.
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« Reply #28664 on: October 23, 2016, 03:45:46 PM »
Star Ocean 2 is actually a really good game, too, probably in my top 3 [definitely in my top 5] of JRPGs on the PS1. But the translation can be such a slog to get through.

The PSP version has a much better translation, and some improved graphics and gameplay, so if you feel like giving it another try, just skip the PS1 version. Only downside is that they modernized the character designs [late-00s anime instead of late-90's anime] and introduced a lot more voice acting, which is just standard anime dub quality at best]. Also, the PSP version of Star Ocean 1 was remade in the style of Star Ocean 2, so it's pretty good, too. Star Ocean 3 is worth a shot if you liked the first two. Star Ocean 4 is kinda good and kinda bad. Star Ocean 5 is just dreadful.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28665 on: October 23, 2016, 05:20:18 PM »
Started Suikoden. Never played this series before but always heard it talked about. It's nice so far

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28666 on: October 23, 2016, 06:34:58 PM »
Suikoden was so good. SO GOOD.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28667 on: October 23, 2016, 10:36:51 PM »
I'm up to the final dungeon of Suikoden 5. Got all 108 characters... even the RTS battles grew on me but they were still very awkward. The characterization is probably top notch out of all the Suikoden games, I just wish they balanced the encounter rate better!!

I say my series rankings are:
2
1
Tierkreis
5
Tactics
3
getting kicked in the balls
4
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28668 on: October 23, 2016, 10:39:28 PM »
Tierkries above V.

Smh.

II
V on par with III
I
Gaiden 1 and 2
Tactics
Tierkries
IV
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tiesto

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28669 on: October 23, 2016, 10:42:33 PM »
I thought Tierkreis was a great little game with some
-excellent production values for a portable
-cool parallel dimensions story
-decent gameplay balance
-decent dungeon design

2 is above and beyond my favorite, but 1, Tierkreis and 5 are pretty close in tier, I just felt that 5 had a few too many frustrations that balanced out its good points. Then Tactics and 3. The Gaiden games aren't bad for 3 hours worth of fanservice, but they should have really been released as a single entity. Still haven't played the PSP one, I'm hoping it eventually gets a fan translation.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28670 on: October 23, 2016, 11:31:23 PM »
I always kinda liked 1 a little better than 2, story wise.

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« Reply #28671 on: October 23, 2016, 11:55:19 PM »
Wasn't Tierkreis the portable one that came out without a quick save....after 1998? :neogaf
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28672 on: October 24, 2016, 01:16:12 AM »
I thought Tierkreis was a great little game with some
-excellent production values for a portable
-cool parallel dimensions story
-decent gameplay balance
-decent dungeon design

2 is above and beyond my favorite, but 1, Tierkreis and 5 are pretty close in tier, I just felt that 5 had a few too many frustrations that balanced out its good points. Then Tactics and 3. The Gaiden games aren't bad for 3 hours worth of fanservice, but they should have really been released as a single entity. Still haven't played the PSP one, I'm hoping it eventually gets a fan translation.

Hmmm.  I couldn't finish V, it was just too dull and the load times were killer.  I wasn't interested in Tierkes since it didn't take place in the worldview and advance the overall worldview plotlines (another reason why I wasn't super into 5).  I like 3 from a story perspective but the gameplay is was dated when it came out, don't even want to think about it now.  4 was boring, but acceptable and had the same problem of not moving the plot forward for main series.  2 is still one of my top rpgs of all-time and 1's pretty alright.  I never replay rpgs but I replayed S1 & S2 when they were ported to PSP and they were still fantastic.  Just totally timeless games.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28673 on: October 24, 2016, 01:35:12 AM »
Bebpo you quit V at five hours in iirc which puts you at the intro. The intro is 8 hours long. You hadn't started the game proper yet. It's not that different from a persona 3/4 intro but slightly longer.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28674 on: October 24, 2016, 09:38:20 AM »
I actually liked the long-ass intro from 5. It reminded me of Trails.

The load times noticeable but not that bad on a PS3, not sure if its a lot slower on a PS2. It's just the encounter rate sucks and there is a bit of loading during the encounters (each character fades in separately).

Oh yeah more positives about 5:
+beavers
+beaver town music track has a didge in it!

5 may not advance the overarching narrative of the Suikoden series but the story is still pretty solid, the main hook of Suikoden - leading a resistance movement that slowly builds up, has major setbacks, but eventually succeeds due to cunning strategy - is still present and that's what I enjoy most about these games. Plus, the characterizations for the 108 SoD are a bit more detailed in this than other games.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28675 on: October 24, 2016, 03:23:47 PM »
V has immense characterization. Character-wise its only flaws are the villains, but it's a decent trade off. I think it felt like 30-40 stars of destiny were relevant to the story in V? Could be wrong? That's how it felt like.

Suikoden V's intro is my favorite rpg intro. Nice and in-depth with lots of characterization, and build up.

The load times aren't bad at all on ps2. The game with awful load times is IV. V has frequent load times. It's not bad, but the problem is that there's a dumb now loading screen that pops up every time it loads, which means, every time you open a door or step into a building, which gives off the feeling that the game loads a lot. if the screen were black it would not be noticeable.

V may not be the best Suikoden. Its villains aren't as good as II or especially III's, it has frequent (although short load times), a complete stars of destiny is impossible to get without a guide (but this isn't too bad as long as you go gfaqs and ctrl+f "missable"), some characters are completely broken, the game rehashes a lot of things from II and it's full of II fanservice. But it's by far and away my favorite Suikoden. The music, the characterization, the world and politics, the story, I was fully engrossed from beginning to end. It was the perfect swan song to the series and when it came out, my friend and I played I think 60-70 hours before the end of the weekend. That's the last (and only) time I did that with an rpg and Suikoden is the only series that could ever make me want to.

RIP my favorite rpg series.  :'(







Probably my favorite ps2 rpg in the end but you could play better.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28676 on: October 24, 2016, 09:03:16 PM »
Who's gonna be playing the Dark Souls III DLC?

Reviews have criticized it for being too short but I'm looking forward to it anyway. 

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28677 on: October 25, 2016, 05:52:16 PM »
I'm halfway through the final dungeon in Tales of Berseria so I'll finish that up tonight.  Did all the side-quest outside a couple crazy grind ones over the last two days.  Near-final thoughts overall:

Going back through all the areas in the game again doing the sidequests it really strikes me how gorgeous and varied the locations are. The towns are all boring as fuck and every damn cave looks identical, but the fields and their usage of color looks incredibly nice.

Also the cast at this point after the last 10-15 hours of story and another 6-8 hours of sidequesting has grown on me a lot. It's not an A-game cast, but it's at least an acceptable B level cast. I think if I replayed the first 40 hours of the game again now I'd probably enjoy it more outside all the field running since the cast has grown on me. Going back doing sidequests and encountering skits that were supposed to have taken place 30 hours ago in the plotline, I'm less bothered by the angst because I like the cast now. It just took me a loooooong time to warm up on them because of all the angst.

The battle system has also grown on me a lot. There's some great innovative ideas here, my favorite being how character change is handled mid-battle. I love how instead of pausing the game and going to my artes setup and changing the artes around to match up to a particular enemy type, I just fight and use the d-pad to switch to the character that I now is strong against that enemy type/element. So I setup my characters where like Rokurou & Velvet are my fire & wind and beast characters, Elenor earth, neutral & flying, etc.. and then I change around without stopping the flow of fights and take out the enemies. Also the characters get a TON of artes which makes me happy, and the last half of them bring the flashy effects stuff that I was annoyed was missing and making battles look too plain in the first half. I also like that most of the characters play well. I mean that's been a staple in Tales for a while, making multiple fun playable characters beyond just the MC, but here almost everyone is a blast to play. I also like how based on equipment, magic casters can be physical combat users or vice-versa outside of like Velvet/Rokurou who are only physical. Everyone else has a good mix of physical and magic.

On the downside of battle, free run is stupidly broken as always which is how I beat enemies 20+ levels higher, the system is pretty mash friendly, I don't like how hi-ougis are handled and one downside of the battle system is the occassional big boss that constantly dizzies the entire party and while the battle system is very fun Heart-ish, when everyone is down to 1 SG and can't do anything at all and there's really no way to getting back the battle system suddenly does't work and becomes very unfun. Also bosses block waaaay to much for a Tales game, which is why I mainly use Elenor and her break soul to guard break and start combos.

I think outside of not having seen the ending, I'd say Berseria has an A- battle system, a B cast with a very angsty cold unfriendly lead so ymmv, a B story, D fields/dungeons/towns, D+ equipment/loot/skill system, C pacing mainly due to fields and skit interruptions, A art/animation, and F music. It's very polished and in a lot of ways it feels like the opposite side of Zestiria where unlike Zestiria which was a mess of a good game, Berseria is a polished game with some very bad design decisions. In end I think both are pretty much C games overall and a wash, maybe Berseria is a little better.

The problem is imo Zestiria/Berseria is very striking that Tales Studio has many talented great individuals and still maintains a very strong budget (Berseria feels distinctly higher budget than any jrpg that's not FF; it's like generational budget difference to Falcom's games and I wouldn't be surprised if Berseria had more buget than Persona 5 even), however some of the higher up decision makers are bad and need to go and are sinking the ship. Since Xillia, the push toward unfun giant scale sized areas that you boringly run forward through for hours, the getting rid of traditional location shops for leveling a single shop, to make loot/equipment less distinct and useful and have tons of loot with random stats that are barely different, to have bizarre skill systems, to purposely push lots of tedious backtracking as if that is still acceptable in 2016, all of these are decisions someone is thinking are a good idea or at least a "don't rock the boat, let's keep doing this because hey that's how Tales has always been" and that is a huge problem. The studio needs a major shakeup and needs to re-examine how to make fun games again. A game with a battle system like Berseria that actually has a fun world to explore like Xenoblade or something and fantastic music like Go Shiina titles would be extremely enjoyable and bring the A game that Tales has been missing.

I'm hopeful, but not optimistic as NamcoxBandai's been running their various franchises to the ground Capcom style over the last 3-6 years. But maybe they can get their shit together at some point.

Who's gonna be playing the Dark Souls III DLC?

Reviews have criticized it for being too short but I'm looking forward to it anyway.

I've learned because of how Souls/Bloodborne DLC is integrated into the world and single save slots, to just wait until all the DLC is out before playing the game so I can naturally go through it on my first run at the appropriate points.  Replaying half the game or more in new game+ just to get where the DLC start is, is a bit tedious for me.  Though the intense difficulty of Bloodborne's DLC at NG+ was very memorable.  Hardest piece of Souls I ever played, but fair and incredibly satisfying, especially the boss fights. 

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28678 on: October 25, 2016, 11:06:52 PM »
I've learned because of how Souls/Bloodborne DLC is integrated into the world and single save slots, to just wait until all the DLC is out before playing the game so I can naturally go through it on my first run at the appropriate points.  Replaying half the game or more in new game+ just to get where the DLC start is, is a bit tedious for me.  Though the intense difficulty of Bloodborne's DLC at NG+ was very memorable.  Hardest piece of Souls I ever played, but fair and incredibly satisfying, especially the boss fights.
No spoilers but this isn't quite a difficult as Old Hunters.  That shit was bananas on NG+

You're probably making a good call on waiting for DLC 2.  The new DLC is good but it will leave you wanting more. 

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #28679 on: October 25, 2016, 11:19:39 PM »
Was all hyped to stomp through the final dungeon and yup... it's one of those where you need to make 3 parties. Which means I need to arm and level up 12 other characters since I've mostly been sticking with 6 the whole game. Yay, last minute grind...  :fbm
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