What are you playing?

[Rufus]

It won't. Have you played Indigo Prophecy? Full distinguished mentally-challenged fellow.

That went completely and utterly crazy though. There's no way you could have guessed what's going to happen. I've seen enough to enjoy that on some level, but man... Heavy Rain couldn't have topped that.

[Don Flamenco]

Jesus resident evil 3 is so good.   I don't know if it's just because it's my first time through, but I feel like I'm actually trying to survive in some horror on hard mode.   The maps and pacing are a big improvement over 1 and 2.

Those randomly generated zombies that are super fast and waiting right outside the door for you are bullshit though.  if only the dodge mechanic was reliable...but I stopped being stingy with the ammo and started shooting things and it's better now.  Otherwise, the randomly generated stuff in general is great and every scene seems like a great time for Nemesis to pop out of nowhere. 

[archnemesis]

a friend of mine won't stop pestering me about wanting to try heavy rain,so how awfull actualy is?

Heavy Rain is a much better game than Indigo Prophecy. The voice acting is a little bit off, but anyone who likes adventure games should definitely give it a try.

[Don Flamenco]

This thread has got me excited about getting to RE6:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=559766


sounds like it's got some pretty deep mechanics.   

I'm going 3, CVX, skipping 4 cause I played that first, skipping 5 cause I'm very over it, then RE6. 

[cool breeze]

Sonic Racing Transformed is incredible.  Feels like the first fresh kart racer since the late 90s.

[Himu]

This thread has got me excited about getting to RE6:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=559766


sounds like it's got some pretty deep mechanics.   

I'm going 3, CVX, skipping 4 cause I played that first, skipping 5 cause I'm very over it, then RE6.

Get it for pc and I'll join you for co-op.

[Rahxephon91]

Just got Tekken Tag 2. Man the game looks really good.

[The Sceneman]

yeah Tekken Tag is a real looker. Real fucking good character modeling.

Almost finished with Castlevania Order of Ecclesia 100%. Doing all the extra stuff but wont bother grinding to complete the monster and item logs and all that crap. They should port the DS games to XBLA or something. I'd rebuy em all.

Just been thinking about the atmosphere and flavor of the Castlevania series a bit. Soooo tight, definitely one of my favourite game series of all time

[Don Flamenco]

This thread has got me excited about getting to RE6:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=559766


sounds like it's got some pretty deep mechanics.   

I'm going 3, CVX, skipping 4 cause I played that first, skipping 5 cause I'm very over it, then RE6.

Get it for pc and I'll join you for co-op.

I've got it on PC.  It'll be a little while (especially if I keep dying so much in RE3), but I'm down.

also noticed I had a bunch of GMG credit and they had 25% off RE:Rev, so i'm now the proud owner of that too


edit:  RE3 is pretty brutal.  I can't do any scouting ahead (saving, going forward using healing/ammo liberally to stay alive and see what's next, then reloading) because the game changes it up.  I found Carlos two different ways last night.  I don't remember CVX being like this and now I'm starting to join the "bring back classic RE" camp  :'(   but I'd want more like this game. 

[The Sceneman]

klonoa > tomba

both excellent games, but not really comprable

[Himu]

lol @ Oscar's post. You're talking about a generation who grew up with Indiana Jones, a film where the villains head melts.

This thread has got me excited about getting to RE6:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=559766


sounds like it's got some pretty deep mechanics.   

I'm going 3, CVX, skipping 4 cause I played that first, skipping 5 cause I'm very over it, then RE6.

Get it for pc and I'll join you for co-op.

I've got it on PC.  It'll be a little while (especially if I keep dying so much in RE3), but I'm down.

also noticed I had a bunch of GMG credit and they had 25% off RE:Rev, so i'm now the proud owner of that too


edit:  RE3 is pretty brutal.  I can't do any scouting ahead (saving, going forward using healing/ammo liberally to stay alive and see what's next, then reloading) because the game changes it up.  I found Carlos two different ways last night.  I don't remember CVX being like this and now I'm starting to join the "bring back classic RE" camp  :'(   but I'd want more like this game.

Yup, RE3 is fucking awesome.

[tiesto]

Played Rygar from start to finish, it was my first time beating that game. I hate that shit in NES games where you have all this life, but when you die you start back with such little health (see: Metroid). The game would have been much better if you returned with full health.

[Rufus]

Done with Tomba!. Fun game, plenty of frustrating bits though. The boss fights were really annoying as well, but I liked it overall. I only ever played the demo back then and even then it struck me how much stuff there was littered about every area and that keeps up in the full game. Nice length for this kind of game, too. Did every "event"/quest (130 in total) and clocked in at 9 hours.
Moved on to Alundra now. :3

[Shaka Khan]

Oh man, coming from Super Metroid straight into Castlevania: OoE... It's rough. I love how the game looks and controls, and think the combat system is a clear upgrade over the other DS games, but the levels... holy crap how brain dead and uninspired.

[Himu]

Oh man, coming from Super Metroid straight into Castlevania: OoE... It's rough. I love how the game looks and controls, and think the combat system is a clear upgrade over the other DS games, but the levels... holy crap how brain dead and uninspired.

Told ya.

[Shaka Khan]

[Don Flamenco]

Played Rygar from start to finish, it was my first time beating that game. I hate that shit in NES games where you have all this life, but when you die you start back with such little health (see: Metroid). The game would have been much better if you returned with full health.

i respeck this.  Rygar owned me as a kid. 

[Joe Molotov]

Played Rygar from start to finish, it was my first time beating that game. I hate that shit in NES games where you have all this life, but when you die you start back with such little health (see: Metroid). The game would have been much better if you returned with full health.

Yeah, it really sucks when you die on the final boss and then start over with crap health. Loved that game though, I probably beat it 5 or 6 times.

[magus]

done the first year in rorona,this time i'm maxing friendship with everybody and abusing the shit out of wholesale,i've already maxed hagel,tiffani,iksel and sterk... cordelia and gio are both jerk and always seems to ask some rare item

and of course doing more reus too,one of the achievements require you to keep 6 village all at once,but somehow for some wicked reason each village decided to create a "bad" wonder,3 of them created a school with child slavery,1 of them created a plantation with slavery and the last one went full militar and build a barrack,they keep warring each other every 5 seconds and i have to keep them in check all the time

[Rufus]

Alundra: The desert area is garbage. You have to trial and error your way through the screens to progress.

[Don Flamenco]

ok i've had enough fun with Xbox One bullshit.  Time for some RE3 before the tuesday night fgc talk shows

[Positive Touch]

Alundra: The desert area is garbage. You have to trial and error your way through the screens to progress.

its boring, but trial and error what?? if youre talking about puzzles, there is no fucking way you will finish this game

[Rufus]

I eventually figured out that you have to go the direction the wind is blowing. And I will finish this, even if I have to look at a guide.

[cool breeze]

Sonic Racing Transformed has a level where you're racing in a Tron world with holograms of jets, jet skis and a giant Ryu Hazuki, all set to the Space Harrier theme.  It's like Rainbow Road, except no wimpy rails, and you're driving past Vyse and Joe Musashi as Beat.  And there's a Burning Ranger stage

[tiesto]

I need to get All Stars Racing Transformed, kinda surprised I haven't, yet. I started playing DDS2 and just defeated the boss of the Underwater Cable, then went back and saved and stopped playing for the night. Great game, the story already seems more involving than the original (needed to brush up a bit on what happened in the original, since I beat it back in 2006).

[Don Flamenco]

and now I know where "I'm a member of STARS!" from MVC2 comes from. 

[Rufus]

OK, so the pixel precise jumping puzzle in Alundra are much more difficult than the puzzles.

[Don Flamenco]

i gotta get around to Alundra someday

[archnemesis]

Yes, please do. It's a great game.

[Bebpo]

Fuck yeah, did not expect this to come before I went on vacation tomorrow (didn't get a shipping notice or anything; just was at work this morning)



TONIGHT IT'S MAINLINE SHIN MEGAMI TENSEI TIME OH YEAAAAAAAAAAH

[tiesto]

Just made it to the "world map" in DDS2. Game seems a lot easier than the first DDS so far. Not sure if it's just because the game is still warming up, or if I'm familiar with all the SMT spell terms after my Persona experiences, or if it's just generally easier (in terms of dungeon design and encounter challenge).

[mjemirzian]

I don't plan on playing it but I'll look forward to your impressions. The only SMT games I've played are Devil Survivor 1 and 2.

[Bebpo]

Also, kind of surprised mainline SMT is only a Cero C these days.  Hopefully game is still incredibly dark and full of despair. 

[Bebpo]

I don't plan on playing it but I'll look forward to your impressions. The only SMT games I've played are Devil Survivor 1 and 2.

I know you mainly stick to strategy games/srpgs, but since you like challenge and skill I think you'd really enjoy Nocturne, especially on the hard difficulty level.

Just made it to the "world map" in DDS2. Game seems a lot easier than the first DDS so far. Not sure if it's just because the game is still warming up, or if I'm familiar with all the SMT spell terms after my Persona experiences, or if it's just generally easier (in terms of dungeon design and encounter challenge).

DDS2 is definitely easier.  A lot of people hate the game, I DON'T KNOW WHY.  I thought Story-wise it was the more interesting of the two.  The first game almost nothing happens.  Though I like the first game as well.  Just more for the atmosphere and confusion of not knowing where the plot was going to go.  I don't think I'd like it as much on a replay.

[Don Flamenco]

Also, kind of surprised mainline SMT is only a Cero C these days.  Hopefully game is still incredibly dark and full of despair.

what were the other games?  Cero-D?

[Bebpo]

I think Nocturne was before CERO, though it looks like Maniax was rated.....E for everyone?   

I thought there was some physical violence/gore, but maybe everything was just implied in SMT3 and not shown?  Don't remember. 



Raidou/Strange Journey were C



Man, I need to lower my expectations for IV.  It could be very good, but chances of anything epic Nocturne quality without Kaneko/Meguro or anywhere near the budget of the PS2 Megatens is slim. 

[magus]

Man, I need to lower my expectations for IV.  It could be very good, but chances of anything epic Nocturne quality without Kaneko/Meguro or anywhere near the budget of the PS2 Megatens is slim.

go bebpo! join the dark bitter side

[Bebpo]

If it's better than Strange Journey I'll be happy.  SJ suffered from budget, lack of music, and ho-hum story but still was an awesome game.  SMTIV loses the good art and replaces it with wtf designs, loses Meguro but gets 100 track soundtrack (Devil Survivor OSTs and music from SMTIV so far have made me ok with not Meguro SMT) and potentially could have a better plot and it definitely has more budget with more demons and hopefully more dungeons.  Plus it has blue man world map, which is a major bonus. 

Some of the gameplay changes though sound dumb (as in duuuuummmmbbbbeeeeed down SMT ;_;), so could go either way.  Will see!

[Don Flamenco]

keep us posted! 

I can't expect Nocturne levels of awesomeness from this.  that was a different, pre-persona 3/4 time. 

[Himu]

DDS2 is harder than DDS1.

[Himu]

keep us posted! 

I can't expect Nocturne levels of awesomeness from this.  that was a different, pre-persona 3/4 time.

I think you mean post-SMT3 time. SMT3 was chided when first released as being broken in difficulty (encounter rate, enemy number, damage). It was basically Nocturne's hard mode.

Also, DDS is much easier than Nocturne and predates P3/P4. Stop blaming everything on Persona.

Finally, Strange Journey came out after P4 and was tough as nails.

[brob]

someone on gaf talked about menu driven towns. Is that for all towns/how many towns/one hub town?

I liked the menu stuff in P3P. walking around is overrated.

[Bebpo]

SJ was not tough.  The boss on dungeon 5 (mid-point boss) was freaking hard and the final boss is bs and you gotta grind a dozen levels to get final boss-worthy demons to handle it, but other than those two bosses the game was standard modern SMT difficulty.


From the megaten games I've played it's been very time-based difficulty regression.  SMT3 was harder than DDS which was harder than Persona 3 which was harder than Persona 4.  SJ was maybe DDS/P3 level of difficulty, maybe. 

They're definitely trying to make the game appeal to a wider audience with each entry and part of that is making them easier unfortunately outside of specific boss encounters.  One of they key points on the back of the SMTIV box is "An rpg that anyone can play!  Simple but deep battle & demon systems!", eh, we'll see. 


SMT3 was the only megaten I played that literally made me sweat as I limped around near-death hoping for a save point at the next dungeon turn.  Was intense and extremely memorable and satisfying.  Holy shit that Matador fight the first time, especially if it's your first SMT like it was mine.  Gonna play SMTIV on hard and see if I can get that same experience here. 

[brob]

I never got the hype about matador. Doesn't the game straight up give you the jellybean that makes you impervious to force attacks before that fight?

I didn't lose to him on my first go, even. Plenty of other shit in that game that's super mean and made me cry though.

[mjemirzian]

I'd like to play Nocturne one day, but it's buried somewhere in that mountainous, undefeatable thing called my "backlog". I actually like and appreciate a wide variety of games, but it's a case of too many good games, too little time.

To make up for it I like reading players impressions of difficult/challenging games and watching videos of stuff like CAVE games. I'll never be able to do those kinds of challenges but at least I can appreciate the time and effort that goes into it.

[Positive Touch]

always wanted to go through it too, but it was the damn price holding me back

[brob]

I bought it on release because Dante was on the box. 

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I thought it was a musou game

So disappointed :'(

[close]

[Don Flamenco]

keep us posted! 

I can't expect Nocturne levels of awesomeness from this.  that was a different, pre-persona 3/4 time.

I think you mean post-SMT3 time. SMT3 was chided when first released as being broken in difficulty (encounter rate, enemy number, damage). It was basically Nocturne's hard mode.

Also, DDS is much easier than Nocturne and predates P3/P4. Stop blaming everything on Persona.

Finally, Strange Journey came out after P4 and was tough as nails.

persona games can be challenging, it's just that crowd likes a lighter tone

[demi]

Doing Hell and Hell on DmC. Already got Super Dante so this is cake yo.

[Himu]

I think it changed around DDS rather than Persona. And then after DDS1+2 was fucking Raidou.

someone on gaf talked about menu driven towns. Is that for all towns/how many towns/one hub town?

I liked the menu stuff in P3P. walking around is overrated.

Don't like this. I can understand they couldn't afford to shell out too much for it, but a lot of that sounds so backwards after SMT3. 

keep us posted! 

I can't expect Nocturne levels of awesomeness from this.  that was a different, pre-persona 3/4 time.

I think you mean post-SMT3 time. SMT3 was chided when first released as being broken in difficulty (encounter rate, enemy number, damage). It was basically Nocturne's hard mode.

Also, DDS is much easier than Nocturne and predates P3/P4. Stop blaming everything on Persona.

Finally, Strange Journey came out after P4 and was tough as nails.

persona games can be challenging, it's just that crowd likes a lighter tone

Definitely. I'm not disputing that. I'm mostly just arguing the time period when Atlus made the games more mass market, and I think it's DDS, which aimed to be the FFX of SMT. It even lacks fusion and is more of a traditional rpg. It's also much, much easier than SMT3N.

That could be all about perception or matter of opinion.

[brob]

someone on gaf talked about menu driven towns. Is that for all towns/how many towns/one hub town?

I liked the menu stuff in P3P. walking around is overrated.

Don't like this. I can understand they couldn't afford to shell out too much for it, but a lot of that sounds so backwards after SMT3. 

ffffuck that. Menu thru town/shops/whatevs -> dungeon -> fightan x fightan x fightan ~ 

[Himu]

I like exploring in rpgs. If I didn't, I'd just stick to a text rpg. Rpgs without locations and everything is menu driven fucking bore me. I can accept it if it's something like Etrian, or a strategy rpg. But I cannot accept it in a game where the game world and storytelling is a big element of the games fabric.

[brob]

I think I only have completed, like, ten or so RPGs in my life. All of that non-fighting stuff wears me down. I can't deal with it. I think I'm more of a dungeon crawler.

[Don Flamenco]

i'll take menus for persona where you're just pointing analog sticks or using the fast travel anyway.   

[Himu]

YOUR AFFECTION

YOUR AFFECTION

YOUR AFFECTIONNNNNNNNNNN

[fistfulofmetal]

I am so terrible at turn based RPGs. Every single map in Fire Emblem I end up restarting at least twice because I put someone in a stupid position and they die. Fucking hell.

[Rufus]

Sometimes that's also just Fire Emblem being Fire Emblem. These games can feel very much like puzzles in my experience.

[ferrarimanf355]

Still playing Pinball Arcade on my Vita. If you have a PSPlus membership, it's free for a limited time, so you have no excuse if you haven't played it yet.

[mjemirzian]

Restarting FE levels is pretty typical, you shouldn't consider yourself terrible for it. Just learn from your experiences and keep improving your strategy like any game.

[Rahxephon91]

I like rpgs, because I like the idea of being in a different world. I like the idea of going on a journey/adventure. So yes I kind of like walking around, so when a game has menu towns its kind of of disappointing. I mean I'm not talking about immersion, I don't need to FEEL like I'm in this game world, I just like to actually seem like I'm in this well realized world. So I really dislike menu cities. It's not a deal breaker. Persona 3 PSP was fine, but by the time I was playing that version I was purely playing Persona for the stat building and whatnot so that game's presentation made the game more efficient for that.