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« Reply #27420 on: December 06, 2015, 08:09:23 AM »
Fighting games, fighting games, and oh - more fighting games.

A cocktail of Ultra Street Fighter IV on Steam and PS4 with Super Street Fighter II Turbo on Fightcade, Street Fighter Alpha 2 on Fightcade, and BlazBlue on PS4 on the side for some dessert.

I have improved tremendously as a player. Been playing consistently for almost half a year now, and I'm just now scraping from below average in skill to merely average in skill. Even that's debatable. I have to thank fighters though. Playing them competitively resurrected my interest in gaming.

I used to wonder why more dedicated fighting game fans only played fighting games for the longest time. Now I know why.

It's not so much about the fight against the opponent so much as it is a fight against yourself: watching replays to catch mistakes and be conscious of not repeating them, watching high level play for inspiration, hours and hours in training rooms to master base things like execution, drilling specific situations into training room against characters you struggle against to find holes and ways to defend yourself, researching frame data to see what moves are safe in specific situations, coming up with a game plan on a character per character basis, taking notes. Research, study, practice, repeat. It's such a personal, addictive process that forces you to realize that you're fucking shit, that the world is huge, and you will always be shit unless you work your ass off. It reminds me of getting in shape or learning an instrument or learning a martial art.

Other games are boring in comparison. When I said before that I find games feel like they're mostly a waste of time, I have felt the exact opposite for fighting games this past six months. The amount of blood and sweat you lose, and only merely end up merely average after months is an amazing experience of self improvement and discovery. The fact that these games had this level of mind games and depth that I never truly experienced until I dug deep is nothing short of amazing.

I caught that fighting game bug. :heart

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« Reply #27421 on: December 06, 2015, 01:37:16 PM »
The best gaming genre by far. No bullshit, all gameplay, no definitive ending, all your victories and defeats are on you and you alone.
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« Reply #27422 on: December 06, 2015, 02:56:22 PM »
The best gaming genre by far. No bullshit, all gameplay, no definitive ending, all your victories and defeats are on you and you alone.



Footsies, execution, spacing, mind games :lawd

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« Reply #27423 on: December 06, 2015, 03:01:40 PM »
The best gaming genre by far. No bullshit, all gameplay, no definitive ending, all your victories and defeats are on you and you alone.

Except when you fight SNK bosses.

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« Reply #27424 on: December 06, 2015, 03:03:52 PM »
Fighting CPU is bullshit. I can't play arcade modes anymore. It used to be the only mode I'd play but now I'll buy one of the aforementioned fighters and not even touch its 1p mode. Playing humans made me realize that CPU in fighters is bullshit and reads your mind.

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« Reply #27425 on: December 06, 2015, 03:06:00 PM »
The best gaming genre by far. No bullshit, all gameplay, no definitive ending, all your victories and defeats are on you and you alone.

Except when you fight SNK bosses.

Garou Mark of the Wolves recently gave me a lot of issues with its final boss in arcade mode.

And then I did air light kicks into light punches, only did that and almost got perfects.

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« Reply #27426 on: December 06, 2015, 03:10:14 PM »
Fighting CPU is bullshit. I can't play arcade modes anymore. It used to be the only mode I'd play but now I'll buy one of the aforementioned fighters and not even touch its 1p mode. Playing humans made me realize that CPU in fighters is bullshit and reads your mind.

I can play SFIV on its hardest difficulty due to how dumb the AI is. Focus attacks, command grabs, and some specials can be spammed with no thought and you'll wreck the AI. I've found that fighting game ports on 360 have really fucked up AI, incredibly dumb and will react to every input you do.

Playing AI can improve execution or help learn new tech, but AI is generally good for unwinding or playing just for fun.
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« Reply #27427 on: December 06, 2015, 03:15:38 PM »
Arcade is definitely good for practicing execution and footsies.

Since programming a recording in the lab can get predictable, having a random thing helps.

Beating the entire mode on hardest mode with just footsies and normals shows a base understanding of the principle.

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« Reply #27428 on: December 06, 2015, 06:31:01 PM »
Dark Souls - Just reached Anor Londo.  Wow, that's an impressive moment.   :lawd

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« Reply #27429 on: December 06, 2015, 08:41:29 PM »
Fighting CPU is bullshit. I can't play arcade modes anymore. It used to be the only mode I'd play but now I'll buy one of the aforementioned fighters and not even touch its 1p mode. Playing humans made me realize that CPU in fighters is bullshit and reads your mind.
They don't read your mind, but they do know what you are currently inputting, which feels about the same. Also, AI aren't limited the same physical input limitations, so they can cheat as well.

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« Reply #27430 on: December 07, 2015, 10:38:54 AM »
Started to play Axiom Verge. Doesn't feel as clever as Super Metroid but it's still the first game in quite some time where I actually have the urge to start it up again after my first 45 minutes with it.
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« Reply #27431 on: December 08, 2015, 12:40:07 AM »
Started Fusion today. I'm enjoying myself but yeah, you're not going anywhere until that computer tells you to. And I just know it's going to turn on Samus before the game ends.
No, surprisingly this game doesn't go the predictable rogue-AI route. The actual twists in Metroid Fusion are actually really compelling and flirt with horror elements more than previous titles.

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« Reply #27432 on: December 08, 2015, 07:15:20 PM »
Dark Souls - After a long, challenging gruel through Anor Londo, leveling a ton, getting good weapon materials, rings, armors, leaving that and coming back to the main game I am super OP.  Went and got the +11-15 ascension ember in New Londo Ruins and got my Katana up to +15 after revisiting the starting asylum and taking out the Stray Demon.  Now I just run around destroying everything in 1 hit and take out bosses in three 4-5 hit combos.  It's great fun taking out areas/bosses that were too tough before like Valley of the Drakes and Sif the Great Wolf.

Bloodborne was kind of the same way.  Was really challenging until you get about 2/3rds through and then you can get super overpowered and steam roll the last 1/3rd.

I want to think it's purposeful design.  That the game is tough as fuck but after you've pushed on and made it through the toughest stuff 60-70% in, it gives you a pat on the back and says congrats, here's your reward, you're now totally badass and go wreck shit for the rest of the game.  Kind of like game endings where you go super saiyan and stuff.

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« Reply #27433 on: December 08, 2015, 07:46:18 PM »
Dark Souls - After a long, challenging gruel through Anor Londo, leveling a ton, getting good weapon materials, rings, armors, leaving that and coming back to the main game I am super OP.  Went and got the +11-15 ascension ember in New Londo Ruins and got my Katana up to +15 after revisiting the starting asylum and taking out the Stray Demon.  Now I just run around destroying everything in 1 hit and take out bosses in three 4-5 hit combos.  It's great fun taking out areas/bosses that were too tough before like Valley of the Drakes and Sif the Great Wolf.

Bloodborne was kind of the same way.  Was really challenging until you get about 2/3rds through and then you can get super overpowered and steam roll the last 1/3rd.

I want to think it's purposeful design.  That the game is tough as fuck but after you've pushed on and made it through the toughest stuff 60-70% in, it gives you a pat on the back and says congrats, here's your reward, you're now totally badass and go wreck shit for the rest of the game.  Kind of like game endings where you go super saiyan and stuff.
:'( :'( :'(
Lightning Zwei at Ornstein and Smaugh. One wrong decision at exactly the same time. AND WHY IS THE LIGHTNING ENCHANTER RIGHT BEFORE THE LIGHTNING-IMMUNE BOSS?

Fuck this cruel game.

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« Reply #27434 on: December 08, 2015, 07:57:06 PM »
Those bosses are super easy because they were tuned around you visiting them the moment they were first available rather than leaving them for after Anor Londo. Sif in particular can be challenged from the moment you reach the Undead Parish.

There's one boss you haven't fought yet that's the worst boss fight in all of Souls due to it being purely RNG: either its total cheese or the boss picks the right moment to swipe at you and shove you down a OHKO pit.


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« Reply #27435 on: December 08, 2015, 10:21:20 PM »
Yeah, but stuff like Sif would stomp me before and there's no way I could've done the Stray Demon before.  Dude still kills me in 2 hits now, but I'm strong enough that I kill him in 3 combos at this point so I just gotta survive long enough to hit the boss with 3 strings.  Feel like this is gonna be my boss strategy from this point out, kill before killed!

Dark Souls - After a long, challenging gruel through Anor Londo, leveling a ton, getting good weapon materials, rings, armors, leaving that and coming back to the main game I am super OP.  Went and got the +11-15 ascension ember in New Londo Ruins and got my Katana up to +15 after revisiting the starting asylum and taking out the Stray Demon.  Now I just run around destroying everything in 1 hit and take out bosses in three 4-5 hit combos.  It's great fun taking out areas/bosses that were too tough before like Valley of the Drakes and Sif the Great Wolf.

Bloodborne was kind of the same way.  Was really challenging until you get about 2/3rds through and then you can get super overpowered and steam roll the last 1/3rd.

I want to think it's purposeful design.  That the game is tough as fuck but after you've pushed on and made it through the toughest stuff 60-70% in, it gives you a pat on the back and says congrats, here's your reward, you're now totally badass and go wreck shit for the rest of the game.  Kind of like game endings where you go super saiyan and stuff.
:'( :'( :'(
Lightning Zwei at Ornstein and Smaugh. One wrong decision at exactly the same time. AND WHY IS THE LIGHTNING ENCHANTER RIGHT BEFORE THE LIGHTNING-IMMUNE BOSS?

Fuck this cruel game.

Yeah, that boss was tough as hell.  Anor Londo gave me serious issues after the bullshit two archers on the outside part.  The castle with strong knights was the first part in the game where I really had to level and experiment with different weapons and get my shit together.  It's just tough and ends with a dual boss fight which is always a pain because you gotta track when it's safe from both of them to strike.  Also the 3 invaders encounter in the room before was really tough too when you don't have a ranged character.  I'm at 20 hours now, 19 when I left Anor Londo and I arrived there at 13 hours.  So I spent 1/3rd the game time that I've played at that castle.

Which is why it's enjoyable kicking ass now afterwards :)

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« Reply #27436 on: December 09, 2015, 06:11:24 AM »
Halo 4 is fucking superb and surpassed all of my expectations. There was no reason to give Cortana gap teeth and massive tits but they did it anyway. Such brave game devs.

Misson 5 was one of the most badass set pieces in gaming history. You fly around a super-truck with a jetpack collecting all the sweetest weapons and blasting bad guys with the finest human firepower. I cant believe how many stupid aliens I killed in this videogame. The story is ridiculous as its all about Master Chief wanting to bust a nut on a hologram but what else have the story liners given this man.
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« Reply #27437 on: December 09, 2015, 06:43:08 AM »
IIRC the worst part of Dark Souls was the 4 Kings boss fight. Those guys were total asswipes in NG+
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« Reply #27438 on: December 09, 2015, 09:45:51 AM »
4 Kings are pretty crummy too, yeah. Bebps shouldn't have much issue specifically because he's running a high DPS build, but that fight is such a shitshow if your build is anything but that. Actively punishes you for choosing to play the game in different ways.

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« Reply #27439 on: December 09, 2015, 05:23:19 PM »
Yeah, that boss was tough as hell.  Anor Londo gave me serious issues after the bullshit two archers on the outside part.  The castle with strong knights was the first part in the game where I really had to level and experiment with different weapons and get my shit together.  It's just tough and ends with a dual boss fight which is always a pain because you gotta track when it's safe from both of them to strike.  Also the 3 invaders encounter in the room before was really tough too when you don't have a ranged character.  I'm at 20 hours now, 19 when I left Anor Londo and I arrived there at 13 hours.  So I spent 1/3rd the game time that I've played at that castle.

Which is why it's enjoyable kicking ass now afterwards :)
Urk. Yeah, those archers with the silver arrows or whatever they wielded were very tough. I remember cheesing them with a YouTube guide and still having a hard time of it. In fact, if boritos hadn't spoken about getting past them. I might've assumed they were put there as a red herring or a deterrent.

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« Reply #27440 on: December 09, 2015, 06:17:30 PM »
4 Kings are pretty crummy too, yeah. Bebps shouldn't have much issue specifically because he's running a high DPS build, but that fight is such a shitshow if your build is anything but that. Actively punishes you for choosing to play the game in different ways.

Yeah, with my build at almost 40 DEX, +15 Katana, lvl.70+ with Havel's Armor, Ring of Favor & Protection I just ran up and killed each King in 3-5 seconds and had to wait for the next one to spawn and they couldn't really do much damage even if they hit with their thrust attack.  I read on NG+ that they're really tough though because of the extra HP so multiple ones spawn at a time.

At Duke's Archives now.  Gonna go back to Blighttown and get the Pyro spell for Power Within for an addition +40% damage and +70% stamina to use on the remaining final bosses to make the fights even quicker in pure DPS.

Also decided after the Four Kings to sit down and read the entire story lore so that I know what's going on plot-wise for the endgame.  Pretty good stuff, very similar structure to Bloodborne's storytelling & lore.  From are total fucking trolls though that unless you do a very specific method you never meet the NPC who tells you the ACTUAL story (Darkseeker Serpent who doesn't even appear in the game if you've talked to Kingseeker Frampt after getting the Lordvessel), and instead everyone thinks it's a total feel good high fantasy story where the beautiful princess entrusts you to rekindle the flame and save the world.  LOL  The only thing I don't like is I feel like there's even more obscurity than Bloodborne in some of the worldview.  Would be nice if Dark Souls 3 is a true connected worldview sequel that adds to the lore since it sounds like DS2 doesn't really.

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« Reply #27441 on: December 09, 2015, 08:46:22 PM »
Beat Metroid Fusion. Zero Mission was better but Fusion was damn good despite linearity

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« Reply #27442 on: December 09, 2015, 11:19:26 PM »
Dark Souls - Alright, Seath the Scaleless down.  2 more giant lord souls left to collect.  Some of the bosses in Dark Souls are kind of terrible, especially coming from the best of the best Bloodborne DLC.  So many giant bosses in Dark Souls if you play melee and run up straight into them, their attacks miss you and you can just slash them to death without taking any damage.  Sif was like that too.  I feel like a lot of these bosses are meant to challenge and take on mid-range/long-range players and aren't setup to go against in your face melee players.  I feel like Dark Souls has better level design than Bloodborne, but Bloodborne's boss fights kick the crap out of Dark Soul's boss fights.

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« Reply #27443 on: December 10, 2015, 12:10:00 AM »
I started up Axiom Verge. It's like a nes game on acid/roids or some shit. Pretty cool.
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« Reply #27444 on: December 10, 2015, 01:19:41 AM »
Just popped in Forza 6. Put it on intermediate difficulty and I'm still rewinding every other turn. I don't know why they put in the Top Gear test track but didn't include the Kia C'eed to see how you can do.

I tried ARMA 3 (2?) whichever the latest one is on my new PC.

What the fuck am I doing? I think I called an artillery strike on myself.

Sounds like how a hardcore military sim should play. Those games are always confusing as fuck.

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« Reply #27445 on: December 10, 2015, 01:37:32 AM »
Would be nice if Dark Souls 3 is a true connected worldview sequel that adds to the lore since it sounds like DS2 doesn't really.

It sort of does and doesn't. The DS2's main setting/plot takes place years after the first game in a different, unrelated location (in the same world), but interestingly enough, uses the DLC from the first game as the plot hook for creating the sequel. It's an interesting premise that was really rough initially, but has since been elaborated on way more with DS2's DLC and all the revised plot stuff that the Scholar of the First Sin edition got.

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« Reply #27446 on: December 10, 2015, 02:18:10 AM »
Would be nice if Dark Souls 3 is a true connected worldview sequel that adds to the lore since it sounds like DS2 doesn't really.

It sort of does and doesn't. The DS2's main setting/plot takes place years after the first game in a different, unrelated location (in the same world), but interestingly enough, uses the DLC from the first game as the plot hook for creating the sequel. It's an interesting premise that was really rough initially, but has since been elaborated on way more with DS2's DLC and all the revised plot stuff that the Scholar of the First Sin edition got.

Ok, that sounds nice.  Planning on playing DS2 before DS3.  Probably get to both next year.

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« Reply #27447 on: December 10, 2015, 04:26:24 AM »
Final Fantasy VII. Fuck the haters, besides the polygonal character models and the low res of the pre-redndered backgrounds, the game is still great. The writing is goofy and fun, characterization is straight forward, combat is starting to open up and the materia system still works when it comes to progression.

Just got down with the Don Corneo mansion, at the train depot with Aeris and Tifa. 
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« Reply #27448 on: December 10, 2015, 11:40:46 AM »
Great game that is still ahead of its time in some ways.

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« Reply #27449 on: December 10, 2015, 02:08:32 PM »
Up to the end of Wild Arms 5 but doing the oodles of optional content the game has in store. So far, did 2/4 extra dungeons. Good game but after the big plot twist, the final main-story part (where you have to climb 4 palette-swapped towers while fighting tons of grueling boss fight) is a total drag. Overall, a decent game but I much prefer some of the other games in the series (1, 4, XF)

Hopefully will finish up this weekend so I can start Xenoblade X.
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« Reply #27450 on: December 10, 2015, 04:27:56 PM »
Beat Halo 4 on Legendary on my first playthrough. Seemed pretty easy, probably easier than other Halo games as the Prometheans don't dish out as much damage as the Covenant and there always seemed to be high powered guns handy. All choke points involved the flying Banshees and their OP aimbot tendencies.

The ending was WTF. The people that write these stories need to realise this kind of shit is precisely why gamers are laughed at. Fuckin Hollywood gaming mayne :piss



Time to fire up some multiplayer and knock out the base 1000 gamerscore. Rank 25 and 20 online match wins seems pretty do-able
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« Reply #27451 on: December 10, 2015, 06:22:36 PM »
I've gone back to the original Fallout in lieu of playing Fallout 4 and good god is it clunky. You can't trade more than 999 caps at a time, but you run into items costing 20k eventually. You can't dump loot onto your companions straightforwardly, instead you 'barter' with them (they accept any deal) or pickpocket them to sneak it into ther inventory. You move on a grid at all times, not just in combat. There are three kinds of cursor modes you switch through: movement, interaction and targeting, for no good reason that I can think of. Interaction is further complicated by making you hold a button to use something. Mouse over it, hold left mouse, scroll down to take or use or whatever, let go of left mouse. Using skills is needlessly complicated too. Need science to use a terminal? Open the skill menu, pick science, click on the thing. It's baffling.

Plot wise it does move very quickly though*, as there's really not a whole lot to do. Not in the main quest and not in terms of side content, so you don't have to suffer the baffling UI decisions for that long. I think the only location that has more than three quests is the HUB, which is where I've always petered out before. I've always assumed that there's more density of content beyond it, but it actually thins out again after that. Most major locations are tiny and have barely any NPCs to talk to. I'm suprised how small this game actually is. I'm already  running around in power armour (got it shortly after I bought a really expensive combat armour :beli) and am turning people to goo with an amped up plasma rifle. Before that I used a pistol chambered for rifle rounds that looks like Deckard's gun from Blade Runner.

*Provided you play a 'correct' build, i.e. a small guns crit sniper with high speech who moves on to using energy weapons or a melee character who rushes to get a super sledge. There are so many useless skills, it's really best to look at a guide and just do what it says.

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« Reply #27452 on: December 10, 2015, 06:25:50 PM »
1 is rough, although pretty sure there's some useful mods for a lot of the UI and annoyances.  I know I played the modded version.  But yeah it's more open, non-linear adventures across the wasteland without much story.
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Fallout 1.2 Patch (semi-official) v. 1.2.1rc3
Fallout Unofficial Patch v. 1.3.5

2 is much better and amazing.  Although I liked 1 a lot when I played it.  1 is really short and replayable.  2 is a huge ass game.

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« Reply #27453 on: December 10, 2015, 06:33:21 PM »
Yeah, I'm sure there are a lot of fixes, but I transferred my save from a Linux installation where I didn't bother with mods because those can be tricky or impossible to use on Linux.

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« Reply #27454 on: December 10, 2015, 08:03:38 PM »
Yeah, I'm sure there are a lot of fixes, but I transferred my save from a Linux installation where I didn't bother with mods because those can be tricky or impossible to use on Linux.

I don't think it'll kill save compatibility?  I mean you can always back up the save, try with mods and if it doesn't work, re-install it clean and use your save again.

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« Reply #27455 on: December 11, 2015, 09:02:21 AM »
I'm gonna have a look at it, but I'm near the end of the game I believe, so it might not be worth my time to tinker (should I have to). I will start Fallout 2 with all the bells and whistles, of course.

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« Reply #27456 on: December 12, 2015, 01:17:51 AM »
Dark Souls - Demons Ruins was ok, kind of boring.  Lost Izalith was pretty small but kind of fun weaving between giant bone dragons in the lava.  The boss though...fuck Bed of Chaos.  Nothing like doing that 3 minute run from Queelag's Domain, drop down, run past the titanite demon (WHY DOES HE RESPAWN, the one in the undead parish doesn't respawn wtff), go up the tree bit and into the boss just to TRY ONCE AGAIN TO MAKE THAT FALL TO THE MIDDLE TREE PLATFORM without being knocked and falling to death...fuck that shit.  Almost was bad enough that if I died a few more times it might've made me bail on the game because I just don't want to spend the time.  Finally did it after a half-dozen or so tries.

Catacombs was ok, since the enemies respawn infinitely pretty much ran through it and kept moving and didn't really explore heavily.  Never found a shortcut or bonfire before Pinwheel so I guess it's good I beat him on my first try with no flasks remaining going into the fight.  Being super OP melee helps sometimes.  Then Tomb of the Giants in the dark was kind of a neat gimmick until I found out about the sunlight maggot helmet and then it wasn't too bad and was pretty short though I like the nice view of Ash Lake (which btw has the most epic music ever when you go fight the hydra and visit the stone dragon).  Nito was kind of a joke being all OP that my character is, just stood in front of him and slash slash slash and he's dead.  Pretty much works on all the bosses post Anor Londo when I went from a +10 Uchigatana to a +15 one with high DEX stats.

At the point where I've explored the whole game and done all the areas and optional bosses (except Dark Sun Gwyndolin, I need to find that Dark Seance Ring) outside going to the final area and final boss, so headed over to the DLC now and beat the first boss and saved.  Gonna run through that first and then take on the final area + final boss.  Around 27 hours in now.  Around lvl.94 I think, I'm just pumping stats into VIT since I maxed END and DEX at 40 each, VIT's around 35 now and I'll keep going until it gets to 50 then if I haven't finished everything I'll pump stats into STR so I can use some more weapons if I want.  I've been keeping all the boss souls and have a ton of them but dunno if there's any specific weapon I want to make.  I made the chaos blade when I got to the smith at Anor Londo but then I accidently reverted it to the Iato + 10....whoops.  My STR is pretty low (17 I think) and so are the rest of my magic stats, so don't think there's many decent weapons for my build as an alternative to Katana.  I have a dagger that's an A in DEX, so I guess I could take it to +10 and see if there's any cool dagger weapons I can make.  Also heard the Scythe is pretty good for DEX. 

I think since I'm used to rolling magic in Demon Souls and fast high DPS swords in DS1 and Bloodborne, when I play Dark Souls 2 for something different I'm gonna go with a slower heavy 2H STR weapon build and see how fun that is. 

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« Reply #27457 on: December 12, 2015, 01:20:11 AM »
What is DPS, I keep hearing that term lately. Also AOE.
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« Reply #27458 on: December 12, 2015, 01:24:31 AM »
Damage per second.

It's more accurate in certain games than just pure ATK stat since a slow weapon might do 500 damage per hit, but only hits like once every 2 seconds, whereas a faster weapon might do 300 damage per hit but hits once every second, so it's doing 600 DPS vs the 500 DPS of the first weapon and you're doing more damage with it.

AoE is Area of Effect, like when you use a meteor spell or something and it damages a wide circular area vs just hitting a single unit.

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« Reply #27459 on: December 12, 2015, 01:27:42 AM »
In the catacombs you have to kill the magic users/wizards, they keep the skeletons alive.

In the Souls games, I prefer four or five heavy strikes with a huge weapon to kill bosses and tougher enemies rather than use high DPS weapons.
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« Reply #27460 on: December 12, 2015, 03:51:45 AM »
Bed of Chaos is bar none the worst boss fight in the Souls series. Not skill-based, not tons of health, just pure luck that you just happen to get a run where the boss doesn't just swat you out of the air and into a death pit.

Lost Izalith also used to be a giant shitshow in general. Before it got patched, every dinosaur in that area would lock onto you and chase you down if even one of them saw you. You pretty much had to snipe them down from a position where they couldn't get you to stand a chance. I used to joke that everything from the Demon Ruins onward was designed by one of the interns at From soft, cause its a super lazy copy/paste of tons of the same enemy/previously fought bosses in a straight line with no interesting level design.

...also, you totally missed a bonfire in Lost Izalith bebpo. Not that I blame you, cause its stupidly located. You have to hit the walls on that pillar to the rightmost of the lava pool, they're an invisible thing.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27461 on: December 12, 2015, 04:29:06 AM »
Weird, I thought I hit all the walls there, been hitting every wall in the game since I found out I missed a bonfire in the Forest.  Guess I missed one wall.  Thought the Titanite demon hallway was the shortcut since dropping down from Queelag -> going through hallway is only about 2-3 min run to the boss room and that seemed about on par for some of the bosses.

But yeah, the absolute best level design so far has been Sen's Fortress, the way it's all built up like a real fortress and at the top you can see the giant sending the boulders down and look down and see all the paths you ran up.  Plus a good diving between a giant's legs boss fight.  I feel like some of the earlier bosses were better designed.  These endgame bosses and areas all seem kind of half-assed.  Like Seath the Scaleless is this giant dragon and with melee the fight is running around his feet tentacles and poking them a bunch of times, Bed of Chaos is stupid, and Nito just stood there and did some swipes while skeleton minions attack.  I dunno, as a whole the bosses just don't seem as good as Bloodborne's and even as good as the Demon Souls bosses I remember.  Even stuff like Capra Demon which is memorable, is mainly just memorable because of the stupid room design.  I think my favorite fights in DS so far have been the 1 on 1 fights with the knights in Anor Londo dodging and countering.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27462 on: December 12, 2015, 01:34:54 PM »
Bed of Chaos is the most most RNG dependent boss but if you pay attention and be careful you can mitigate most of it.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27463 on: December 13, 2015, 04:04:26 AM »
I just realized that Gravelord Nito sounds kind of like Gravelord Neato and I think I'm going to call him that from now on because he's not really scary.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27464 on: December 13, 2015, 06:12:21 AM »
HES SO SCARY. He's a giant SKELETON
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27465 on: December 13, 2015, 09:11:42 AM »
I just realized that Gravelord Nito sounds kind of like Gravelord Neato and I think I'm going to call him that from now on because he's not really scary.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27466 on: December 14, 2015, 02:00:43 AM »
Dark Souls - Ok, finished the Expansion DLC.  Was cool in that it was a full independent storyline that added and filled in a bunch of the lore.  Was great seeing the other 3 of the 4 knight captains besides Ornstein who was in the main game.  Not super big on the re-skin of the forest (Bloodborne first DLC area is a remix too, but not as blatant), although Dark Souls 1 DLC re-use makes sense for story reasons.  Also was pretty short.  Definitely shorter than the Bloodborne DLC expansion.  Only 3 real areas (Forest, Town, Abyss) and they're all pretty short and simple, and only a couple of boss fights.  Manus was pretty tough, probably toughest fight in the game for my overpowered character.  Dude is fast, hits hard with wide range and doesn't let up.  I didn't find Sif until after the fight, so having Sif distracting him probably helps.  The optional one-eyed Dragon fight is a really challenge too, barely beat it by the scrape of my skin even with 20 Estus flasks.  His head swipe attack has such a huge range it's tough to dodge and you can get swiped twice, and then if you don't rush in his flame stuff can do heavy damage (I wasn't strong enough to use any good shields beyond Dragon Crest shield in the game, so my shields couldn't stop this stuff).  Maybe he was harder than Manus, I dunno, but they were both a challenge.  Can't even imagine taking them on in NG+ or NG++ in melee without an OP character.

Then I went to the First Flame (great looking, but not much of an area) and then the final boss... :lol  Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, is he supposed to be a joke on purpose?  Like even if you weren't overpowered (which seems impossible if you've leveled using the souls from each boss a long the way), just using the Black Knight weapons dropped in the hallway before him, he goes down in under a minute, if not 30 seconds.  He looks cool, but his moves are easily dodgeable and he just dies really, really easily.  Was sort of super anti-climatic.  I remember Demon Soul's final boss being tough but then I was playing sorcery magic there.  Bloodborne's final boss was easy, but at least tougher than Cinder.  Got the Dark ending and youtubed the Flame ending.  Short endings, but overall I was extremely impressed by the story when all the lore and plotting is put together. 

After Bloodborne and Dark Souls 1, whoever is writing the stories/lore (not sure if it's Miyazaki himself) has really established themselves up there with Matsuno and Takahashi as creating the best universes & stories in gaming.  It was really fun piecing it all together and reading all the lore synopsis and seeing how much is told through just the level design cues.  Man, when you end up in Ash Lake through the secret wall in the tree and that music kicks in and that underground sky....so epic, really feels like you've walked into a world from before time...WHICH IT KIND OF IS.  And then the level design of it all makes sense because the Stone dragon is hiding from the Giants/Gods and hence the illusional wall blocking the entrance to the Great Hollow.  Just incredibly well put together world from a lore perspective.

Looking forward to playing Dark Souls 2 and 3 in 2016.  Definitely going to go for a strong 2H STR build in DS2 for something different.  Could do an Archer, but sniping people just doesn't sound fun.  Maybe go back and try magic again for DS3.  I was really damage capped at the end of Dark Souls 1 with my 40 DEX Katana+15 build with pyro Power Within spell because I didn't do research beforehand about BUFFING and way too late found out I needed to get my INT to 32 to use magic weapon buffs and basically go from 420 damage -> 780 damage.  So when I play DS2 & 3 I'm going to read up on buffs and where I need to put some points into for max damage later in the game.

Anyhow, great game.  Liked it in some ways better than Bloodborne, but think I like Bloodborne just an inch more because of the better boss fights and more responsive controls for melee combat.

Also worst boss was the Gaping Dragon.  Looks so cool and epic and scary in the pre-release photos, yet in the game it's this big dumb slow headless body that just walks a bit and crashes down on the ground and you run up and hit it a few times.  Repeat.  What a joke.

HES SO SCARY. He's a giant SKELETON

He looked really cool in the opening CG!  Thought he'd be more impressive.  Same with Seath.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27467 on: December 14, 2015, 09:30:03 AM »
Played a ton of Wild Arms 5, doing all the optional dungeons/quests/bosses. Found a game-breaking trick that I used to beat all the extra-hard bosses (like the Porn Mags and Ragu O Ragla, both series traditions). Now, up to the final save point in the final dungeon, so I'll beat it tonight.

Also did the prologue of Xenoblade X. Looks like it's gonna be a blast, even if the character models are on the level of Xenosaga. The music also sounds pretty good aside from the british grime-style rap in the battle theme  :lol I just love when RPGs use music other than classical in their soundtracks.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27468 on: December 14, 2015, 11:03:15 AM »
Just did the Tiamat part of Zestiria. Awesome scene throughout. Zestiria rules.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27469 on: December 14, 2015, 11:46:16 AM »
Anyone here try Hurtworld yet?

Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27470 on: December 14, 2015, 11:53:10 AM »
Dark Souls - Ok, finished the Expansion DLC.  Was cool in that it was a full independent storyline that added and filled in a bunch of the lore.  Was great seeing the other 3 of the 4 knight captains besides Ornstein who was in the main game.  Not super big on the re-skin of the forest (Bloodborne first DLC area is a remix too, but not as blatant), although Dark Souls 1 DLC re-use makes sense for story reasons.  Also was pretty short.  Definitely shorter than the Bloodborne DLC expansion.  Only 3 real areas (Forest, Town, Abyss) and they're all pretty short and simple, and only a couple of boss fights.  Manus was pretty tough, probably toughest fight in the game for my overpowered character.  Dude is fast, hits hard with wide range and doesn't let up.  I didn't find Sif until after the fight, so having Sif distracting him probably helps.  The optional one-eyed Dragon fight is a really challenge too, barely beat it by the scrape of my skin even with 20 Estus flasks.  His head swipe attack has such a huge range it's tough to dodge and you can get swiped twice, and then if you don't rush in his flame stuff can do heavy damage (I wasn't strong enough to use any good shields beyond Dragon Crest shield in the game, so my shields couldn't stop this stuff).  Maybe he was harder than Manus, I dunno, but they were both a challenge.  Can't even imagine taking them on in NG+ or NG++ in melee without an OP character.

Then I went to the First Flame (great looking, but not much of an area) and then the final boss... :lol  Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, is he supposed to be a joke on purpose?  Like even if you weren't overpowered (which seems impossible if you've leveled using the souls from each boss a long the way), just using the Black Knight weapons dropped in the hallway before him, he goes down in under a minute, if not 30 seconds.  He looks cool, but his moves are easily dodgeable and he just dies really, really easily.  Was sort of super anti-climatic.  I remember Demon Soul's final boss being tough but then I was playing sorcery magic there.  Bloodborne's final boss was easy, but at least tougher than Cinder.  Got the Dark ending and youtubed the Flame ending.  Short endings, but overall I was extremely impressed by the story when all the lore and plotting is put together. 

After Bloodborne and Dark Souls 1, whoever is writing the stories/lore (not sure if it's Miyazaki himself) has really established themselves up there with Matsuno and Takahashi as creating the best universes & stories in gaming.  It was really fun piecing it all together and reading all the lore synopsis and seeing how much is told through just the level design cues.  Man, when you end up in Ash Lake through the secret wall in the tree and that music kicks in and that underground sky....so epic, really feels like you've walked into a world from before time...WHICH IT KIND OF IS.  And then the level design of it all makes sense because the Stone dragon is hiding from the Giants/Gods and hence the illusional wall blocking the entrance to the Great Hollow.  Just incredibly well put together world from a lore perspective.

Looking forward to playing Dark Souls 2 and 3 in 2016.  Definitely going to go for a strong 2H STR build in DS2 for something different.  Could do an Archer, but sniping people just doesn't sound fun.  Maybe go back and try magic again for DS3.  I was really damage capped at the end of Dark Souls 1 with my 40 DEX Katana+15 build with pyro Power Within spell because I didn't do research beforehand about BUFFING and way too late found out I needed to get my INT to 32 to use magic weapon buffs and basically go from 420 damage -> 780 damage.  So when I play DS2 & 3 I'm going to read up on buffs and where I need to put some points into for max damage later in the game.

Anyhow, great game.  Liked it in some ways better than Bloodborne, but think I like Bloodborne just an inch more because of the better boss fights and more responsive controls for melee combat.

Also worst boss was the Gaping Dragon.  Looks so cool and epic and scary in the pre-release photos, yet in the game it's this big dumb slow headless body that just walks a bit and crashes down on the ground and you run up and hit it a few times.  Repeat.  What a joke.

HES SO SCARY. He's a giant SKELETON

He looked really cool in the opening CG!  Thought he'd be more impressive.  Same with Seath.

Gwyn can be either really easy or really though depending on the build you rolled. The common thing is that most DS1 bosses crumble under a high DPS build, final boss included. Demon's Souls "final boss" wasn't technically its final boss either, since you could fight Dracula Old King Allant at any time after killing one of the Greater Demons. This poop is technically Demon Souls' final boss.

I've only ever done the DLC in NG+ cause I wasn't about to start a fresh file for it. Manus and Kalameet in NG+ are some shit, took me forever to kill both using my tanky Claymore character.  :lol

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27471 on: December 14, 2015, 12:23:05 PM »
I dunno, I just don't see how Gwyn can be tough with almost any build.  He runs up and swings a big fire sword that's easily rollable and swings it a few times without a ton of range, and that's...it?  Plus, like I said the enemies before him drop weapons with 245+ atk power with low stat requirements.  Even if you're a mage build he seems like a boss you can roll dodge, run away, shoot magic, roll dodge when he comes at you, run away, shoot magic, etc... just seems pretty easy and not even that aggressive. 

I'll watch a video of him in new game+ and see if he's any more interesting.  I saw that NG+ actually changes up the enemy distribution in this, unlike Bloodborne where it's identical.  That's pretty cool.  Like I saw the Sanctuary Guardian Boss in the DLC NG+ has you fighting 2 of the Guardians at one time instead of one.  Not really interested in replaying the game right now, but that is pretty cool and games that do that (like Devil May Cry) really add a lot of replay value.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27472 on: December 15, 2015, 05:57:17 PM »
Started Aria of Sorrow a couple days ago. Looks like third time is the charm.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27473 on: December 15, 2015, 06:34:27 PM »
aria crushes the other two gba games. it's the closest thing to sotn quality that we ever got
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27474 on: December 15, 2015, 06:39:02 PM »
I think aria is on par with sotn

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27475 on: December 15, 2015, 09:17:50 PM »
sotn has the classic soundtrack, and i prefer the level layout. everything else in aria is better tho,  and the gameplay is superb. i actually think the ds sequel is even more fun, but most people seem to disagree.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27476 on: December 16, 2015, 01:34:16 AM »
I definitely disagree. Found it way too easy. Though Julius mode owned. Aria also has a fun ass story.

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27477 on: December 16, 2015, 02:48:01 AM »
The Last Door - Well that was a waste.  Really nice atmospheric Edge Allen Poe style Point and Click with lo-fi pixel style and great orchestral music.  Puzzles were fine enough, each episode was about 40 mins long (4 eps total), creepy mood.  But the story which started off good in ep1 and early ep2, got stupid when they gave away the plot mystery already by ep2 (and it's kind of dumb), and then ep3/4 were ok but nothing happens and it ends with a wait for Season 2.  If you're going to release an adventure game, even if you wanna have a sequel in the future, you need to have some form of a story conclusion to your game.  It basically just went "ok, now hit enter to continue to episode 5" except there was no episode 5.  If the story was better written and the mysteries more interesting, I'd be more ok with the unfinished buy Season 2 aspect, but I really don't want to play another 4 hours of this just to see the conclusion since the story isn't good enough to warrant it.

/shrug

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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27478 on: December 16, 2015, 05:27:29 AM »
Played around a bit more in DS2, still dunno what kind of buięd I want. Game doesnt click as much with me as BB or DeS. Setting just seems less impressive. No time to dig in before Xmas so will pick it up next year again. Think I will go for a heavy armor build, to mix things up aftee bb and des.

Started playing Suikoden for the first time, good so far.
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Re: What are you playing?
« Reply #27479 on: December 16, 2015, 10:03:26 AM »
Been playing Stasis recently. It's a horror themed isometric 2D point and click adventure game.

It's a fun thing and totally engrossing in it's great looking environments.

And it's totally that kind of game. You have to use items to interact with the environment in somewhat convoluted ways to solve whatever problem the game has presented to you.

Right now I'm stuck in a situation where I need to use a tram to get somewhere but the tram line is damaged so I need to switch to a different line, but the system is not receiving enough energy to do it. So I gotta use a console to recharge it.  But the recharge system is offline so I have to open a breaker box to do... something. But the breaker box is sealed, so I need an object to open the breaker box. The high powered drill I used earlier in the game won't do it. I was able to deduce there's a crowbar somewhere so now I need to figure out where the crowbar is.

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