What are you playing?

[Positive Touch]

new game plus only had you play through the second half of the game again each time, so you can't access most sidequests again. i think the fisherman sidequests are the only exception to this.

your first playthrough of ng+ is just to see all the new story scenes they'll add in, so you basically just wanna run thru from start to finish. playthroughs 3 and 4 require you to hunt down all the little quests and items you missed.

[chronovore]

Seeing all the talk about Nier, I was thinking about giving it another go, but then you mentioned the fishing thing, which was the most bullshit counterintuitive minigame I've ever encountered in any game. 

[Positive Touch]

i usually like fishing minigames,  but my god Nier fucked it up so bad. completely mindless with an insane amount of grinding to finish those quests.


... urgh now I'm regretting canceling my ff14 sub, because the fishing in that game was so damn fun and i still had a loooot more fishing quests to do

[archie4208]

I'm ever so slowly going through Bravely Default on hard mode (I just completed chapter 2).

That battle system. 
That difficulty.
That surprisingly good voice acting
THAT SOUNDTRACK

spoiler (click to show/hide)

That feeling of dread when you're creeping closer to the infamous second half

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[Bebpo]

Seeing all the talk about Nier, I was thinking about giving it another go, but then you mentioned the fishing thing, which was the most bullshit counterintuitive minigame I've ever encountered in any game. 

 

Yeah, yesterday I spent 30 minutes trying to figure out how the fuck fishing worked so I could catch the fish I needed.  Like just getting it started where you can battle the finish was really confusing because it was so badly explained and trial and error wasn't helping. 

Stuff like that is definitely Nier's jank.

[Bebpo]

Sidequest plebs starting to get expensive wtf.  Every other NPC wants like 10 of item A, 10 of item B, 5 of item C and that adds up if you gotta buy it! 

[Take My Breh Away]

I backed Amplitude. Only recently I got a code for the PS3 version. Harmonix repeatedly told people the PS3 version would just be the PS4 version at 720P

Just using bad songs from other indie games instead of a variety of pop, rock, metal and dance like the older games as the bonus songs they could have sourced from soundcloud

Confusing campaign mode

A 30FPS music game because they couldn't be arsed about PS3 backers

Not sure who to tell to fuck off here. Harmonix for over promising the earth then just making a version for PS4 backers and giving PS3 sloppy seconds. Or Sony for being wankers and refusing to sell derelict IP's or even allow a PC version.

[Bebpo]

Coming from Vita Miku, I feel your 30fps music game pain.  Shit should be illegal in music games.  Like literally, the developer goes to jail if they release a music game @ 30fps.

[Bebpo]

I tried Dark Souls II & Witcher II last night for about an hour each since I always like getting started in my next rpg while I'm still playing my current one (it's weird, but eh).  Dark Souls II seemed ok, cutscene at the start was way too talky and boring and do you seriously have to warp back to majula to level up each time with the woman in black?  Made it to the first bonfire in the Forest of the Giants.  The controls feel somewhat smoother than DS1.  Locations a little boring, but otherwise seems fine. 

Witcher II otoh, mannnnnnn I tried playing with a controller and while I love the graphical improvement from Witcher 1 and some of the UI improvements, the game felt awful on a controller to the point where half the shit like equipping or leveling up feels counter-intuitive.  Controller support definitely feels tacked on.  May have to play with a kb.  Remembered that my W1 game glitched at the end leaving me dead stuck in a floor so I had to youtube the last bit of the game.  So I don't have a clear save to use, which means I gotta go hunt for one that, which sounds like too much effort so I don't think I'll play this anytime soon.

[Freyj]

DS2 felt really really odd for the first 10 hours or so, but I didn't mind it as much after that. The controls / graphics / whatever definitely feels different than 1/3 and not in the best way.

[tiesto]

Up to the final dungeon in BOF4. Interesting and sad plot twist at the end of Act III. Before taking on the final dungeon I have to get the last few masters, which I can only do after doing a ton of fishing, an activity I'm not too fond of

Hopefully will get to beat it this weekend. Kinda peeked ahead and the final dungeon / final series of battles look pretty grueling, and I'm way under-leveled compared to the guide (which, aside from one boss fight, hasn't really been a problem... yet).

[Fifstar]

Witcher II otoh, mannnnnnn I tried playing with a controller and while I love the graphical improvement from Witcher 1 and some of the UI improvements, the game felt awful on a controller to the point where half the shit like equipping or leveling up feels counter-intuitive.  Controller support definitely feels tacked on.  May have to play with a kb.  Remembered that my W1 game glitched at the end leaving me dead stuck in a floor so I had to youtube the last bit of the game.  So I don't have a clear save to use, which means I gotta go hunt for one that, which sounds like too much effort so I don't think I'll play this anytime soon.

I played Witcher 2 only briefly because my graphics card is a bit to weak for it, but too me the keyboard controls sucked as well.

[Take My Breh Away]

Coming from Vita Miku, I feel your 30fps music game pain.  Shit should be illegal in music games.  Like literally, the developer goes to jail if they release a music game @ 30fps.

Even EBA/Ouendan gameplay ran 60FPS even when the animation and cutscenes ran 30FPS. I would have easily taken a resolution hit to nail 60FPS on the PS3 (Because fuck it. It's a PS3 in 2016. No one's going to give a fuck). I know I'm missing beats because of the 30FPS lock and it's aggravating.

Such shitty handled game because the gameplay is still great. I understand the budget concerns and the idea that the main campaign being a concept album of traveling through a comatose patient brain is quite cool (And there's a few really good songs like Decode me and Perfect Brain). But everything else seemed badly handled. People remember Rock Band and Guitar Hero's harmonix bonus songs being a really cool bunch of indie rock, heavy metal and synth pop but the games bonus songs is filled with songs from other games. It feels cheap as fuck and I don't really feel like going back to nail high scores like the original game (And I put an unholy amount of time into the original game).

[chronovore]

Coming from Vita Miku, I feel your 30fps music game pain.  Shit should be illegal in music games.  Like literally, the developer goes to jail if they release a music game @ 30fps.

Even EBA/Ouendan gameplay ran 60FPS even when the animation and cutscenes ran 30FPS. I would have easily taken a resolution hit to nail 60FPS on the PS3 (Because fuck it. It's a PS3 in 2016. No one's going to give a fuck). I know I'm missing beats because of the 30FPS lock and it's aggravating.

Such shitty handled game because the gameplay is still great. I understand the budget concerns and the idea that the main campaign being a concept album of traveling through a comatose patient brain is quite cool (And there's a few really good songs like Decode me and Perfect Brain). But everything else seemed badly handled. People remember Rock Band and Guitar Hero's harmonix bonus songs being a really cool bunch of indie rock, heavy metal and synth pop but the games bonus songs is filled with songs from other games. It feels cheap as fuck and I don't really feel like going back to nail high scores like the original game (And I put an unholy amount of time into the original game).

Yeah, Harmonix extra tracks in Rock Band from their bands and other locals are not only good songs, they're arranged well and fun to play.

[mormapope]

Hot Shots Golf Open Tee:
Got -16 on the first course, 18 holes short tee. Never gonna beat that, golf games are 

Resident Evil 2:
Beat Leon A and Claire B. Fantastic game, has aged much better than RE1 and REmake when it comes to pacing and design. RE1 is a action based puzzle game, whereas RE2 nails the survival horror theme much better. There are a ton of scenarios where you have to spend items and ammo no matter what. You're also hauling less key and puzzle shit around, boss fights are much improved over RE1's. You have to haul way too much shit in RE1/REmake, RE2 has a lot less bloat and its better for it.

Front Mission 3:
Close to four hours in, things are opening up with customization and overall freedom. An excellent and fair SRPG, sound effects are excellent, UI is clean and fast, can easily skip dialog and cutscenes.

[Positive Touch]

the best part of front mission 3 is scouring it's version of the Internet

[Bebpo]

Nier

The forest of myth

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interactive fiction

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and the Resident Evil mansion were cute.  Had no idea going in the game would be this love letter to all these classic games and their genre. 

[Bebpo]

So, since I like Nier so far, and never played any of the Drakenguard games more than 60 mins because the gameplay in the first two was total shit long musou stages with no save/checkpoints iirc, now I want to get into Drakenguard because I really enjoy the story-telling style of Nier.  I have the old PS2 games in a box somewhere, but can I get the full Drakenguard experience by just watching the story cutscenes on youtube?  Because that seems a lot less painful for 1 & 2, and then I'll try to play 3.

[brob]

first of all, drakengard 2 doesn't count in the same way devil may cry 2 doesn't count. secondly, 1 is a trashy musou with some novel ideas, but it's too shit to play. you can watch the cut scenes on youtube prolly or just read a summary for it. 3 is better, but still #problematic with regards to technical things like frame rate and inputs. The drakengard character design conceit of 'they look normal and nice but are really fucked up' is way overdone to such a degree that more or less all the dialog is wild painful. Nier is easily the best game in this grip, and going back to those others feels like a downgrade in every way imo.

tl;dr: watch/read 1, stay away from 2, play 3.

[tiesto]

Nier

The forest of myth

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interactive fiction

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and the Resident Evil mansion were cute.  Had no idea going in the game would be this love letter to all these classic games and their genre.

The genre-bending was one of the highlights of the game for me. It's a game that celebrates games (yet isn't afraid to call them out for their more silly hero-complex elements). I really hope that Automata continues with this.

[Positive Touch]

i bought drakengard 3 after finishing Nier bc it was dirt cheap. booted it up, heard the awful va, couldn't find and option for the Japanese track, saw that Japanese audio is a $5 dlc, took the game out,  and never touched it again.

[Bebpo]

i bought drakengard 3 after finishing Nier bc it was dirt cheap. booted it up, heard the awful va, couldn't find and option for the Japanese track, saw that Japanese audio is a $5 dlc, took the game out,  and never touched it again.

I only play Japanese games in Japanese audio since I understand Japanese and most dubs suck.

That being said, I actually like the voice acting in Nier (which I'm playing in English because I've heard old man guy is the better protag), especially the book Weiss.  To the point that if I play Drakenguard 3 I'm thinking about playing it in English because I'm assuming it's the same localization team?  idk, like you said if it's bad there's JPN audio DLC for $5.  So I picked up Drak 3 and the Nier OST off amazon today.

[Positive Touch]

iirc i played nier in English to bc it was acceptable, but usually i like to play Japanese games with Japanese va bc the dubs suck and what they're saying generally sounds really weird and extremely corny in English.

the first few minutes of d3 definitely fit into the weird and corny category from what i heard

[brob]

nier is nice in english, the voices are good and the main characters have good chemistry imo. Drakengard 3 protag, Zero, is a more foul-mouthed Kaine and the constant companion, rather than being an verbose and erudite book, is a baby-voiced dragon who is dumb as hell - so their interactions are more variations on Zero saying wild shit and the dragon being shocked or ignorantly asking what she's talking about. Most of the rest of the main characters in the game are edgelords as well.

not knowing japanese, this is much more tolerable in japanese.

[Bebpo]

Nier

Got to the 2nd half.  First dungeon:

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Isometric dungeon crawler was neat.

First disappointment of the game is that the cool skeleton creepy head dude from all the trailers is just...lamo Emil.  Thought there was still gonna be another cool character to add to the cast.  Eh, I'll live with lamo emil I guess.

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Oh and I'm kind of mixed on the new weapons.  I bought the spear since it was the best new weapon damage-wise in town and it does great damage but the attack range being so narrow makes it kind of way less satisfying when fighting mob groups than the standard 1H sword in the first half of the game.  The 2H sword works better for that but since it's slow I get knocked down while fighting grunts, so I'm just sticking with the spear and using the whirlwind magic AoE spell with spinning lances around me to get the enemies that aren't directly in front of my stabbing spear.

[Bebpo]

first of all, drakengard 2 doesn't count in the same way devil may cry 2 doesn't count. secondly, 1 is a trashy musou with some novel ideas, but it's too shit to play. you can watch the cut scenes on youtube prolly or just read a summary for it. 3 is better, but still #problematic with regards to technical things like frame rate and inputs. The drakengard character design conceit of 'they look normal and nice but are really fucked up' is way overdone to such a degree that more or less all the dialog is wild painful. Nier is easily the best game in this grip, and going back to those others feels like a downgrade in every way imo.

tl;dr: watch/read 1, stay away from 2, play 3.

So for a start I read all the plot summaries of Drak 1 & 2 tonight and looked into some of the wiki stuff but it's all pretty skeletal outline of the events.  On paper it all seems pretty simple and nothing special, but I'm guessing it's the execution of the scenes and twists along with nice music that make them great.  On youtube I found a playlist that has all the cutscenes including in-game cutscenes for Drak 2 which is cool because that should basically give the whole experience without playing it, but Drak 1 seems like all they have is the CG scenes and the endings and none of the in-game story stuff which is where the bulk of it is.  But there's a Let's Play of the full game.  So when I have some time to kill I'll skip around through the let's play of Drak 1, skip around through the cutscene playlist of Drak 2 and then after I finish Nier at some point I'll play Drak 3.

What makes Drakengard 2 so bad like DMC2?  From the plot summaries I couldn't really tell other than the plot seems pretty unnecessary and just runs on the idea of basically destroying everything Drakengard 1 created.  Like Drakengard 1 seems like the story is about trying to keep the Watchers/Gods sealed away so they don't destroy the world, and Drakengard 2 summaries were a little confusing, but it seems like it was about trying to break the seals and kickstart a war between the dragons and the watchers.    But yeah, seems like Drakenguard 2 doesn't matter if you're going to go from the Nier canon off the Branch E timeline of Drakengard 1 anyhow (fwiw this wasn't a spoiler for me, I remember the weird Branch E ending being all over the internet back in the day and then when Nier came out I remember when everyone figured out it followed Drakengard's branch E, so I knew this going into Nier, but otherwise I knew and still don't know anything about Nier or its story).  So yeah you can run Drak3 -> Drak1 -> Nier -> Nier2?  Timeline all together, but if you do that then Drak2 is the odd ball out, so it does seem sort of unimportant in retrospect I guess?

[brob]

The point of Drakengard1 and why people like it is mainly how it subverts various tropes. For instance the protag seems like a run-of-the-mill type jrpg protag but he's cruel and vicious and super into killing people. The meat of the story is in the characters interacting and changing over the course of the story, I think someone over on SomethingAwful did a good screenshot Let's Play of Drakengard, but I'm not a member there so idk.

2 doesn't matter because it was made by a different production staff, notably taro yoko is missing and as such it doesn't really connect with the other games. And it isn't really fun to play in the same way 1 isn't, so there isn't much to get out of it imo. Tim Rogers likes it a lot tho

[Rufus]

The screenshot LPs you're thinking of are all on lparchive.org

http://lparchive.org/Drakengard/
http://lparchive.org/Drakengard-2/
http://lparchive.org/Drakengard-3/

I'd read these rather than playing the games.

[Kara]

Y'all is haters.

[D3RANG3D]

Anime Tiddies Senran Kagura.

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[Bebpo]

The screenshot LPs you're thinking of are all on lparchive.org

http://lparchive.org/Drakengard/
http://lparchive.org/Drakengard-2/
http://lparchive.org/Drakengard-3/

I'd read these rather than playing the games.

Yeah, this is great.  Thanks.

[eleuin]

Drakengard 1 felt like a less compelling dynasty warriors

if thats even possible

[I'm a Puppy!]

Finished Danganronpa
It was .... OK.
Still on a visual novel kick. But it wasn't as good as Virtue's last reward and certainly not as good as Hotel Dusk or 999.

[The Legend of Sunblade]

Finished Uncharted 4. Can pretty safely say its my favorite game in the series, my favorite post-Crash Naughty Dog game and the one UC I can actually see myself still actively having fun with on a replay. It's amazing how much tailoring the gunfight encounters to be more about moving around and less on hiding behind cover, as well as allowing you to completely bypass enemies at some points, can make things way more fun.

[Bebpo]

Gotta say that this let's play for Drak 1 is really great.  One of the first times I've read a lets play in this style but it's funny, entertaining and captures enough of the game through screens, descriptions and video links to key scenes that it really feels like you're getting the experience of playing through it without having to.  I'm ok Episode 10 and he's just finishing Chapter 2.  I think I might check out some more let's plays for crappy playing games after this.  I see he did one for Cavia's first game Resident Evil Dead Aim and it sounds pretty spectacular so maybe I'll read that next.

Oh and maybe this would be a good way to finish Deadly Premotion because I just couldn't play it anymore after 10 hours because all the driving around was so tedious.  Would be interesting to see the rest of the story.  Maybe Dino Crisis 3 too since I never played that.

[Positive Touch]

the one for lunar on ds was pretty good. no way was i gonna that piece of shit, but the lp was really comprehensive and have a real detailed look at the whole game. it honestly looked like the worst jrpg ever created, no exaggeration. just total shit from start to finish.

[Joe Molotov]

Finished Danganronpa
It was .... OK.
Still on a visual novel kick. But it wasn't as good as Virtue's last reward and certainly not as good as Hotel Dusk or 999.

Zero Time Dilemma is out in a few weeks, friend.

[Bebpo]

Finished Wolfenstein: The Old Blood - Was generally good.  Had a good mix of stealth and action although a lot of the stealth sections were pretty much "you get caught - you die; so might as well restart checkpoint if you get seen".  I still like the combat in the game, the stealth feels improved and not quite as linear as TNO, and I like the Half-life 2-isms of scripted story stuff within the gameplay to make it more compelling on the story side.  The mid-game boss fight was solid. 

What I didn't like was the final boss was one of the worst bosses I've ever fought in my life.  It's designed in a worse way than the Killzone 2 boss.  It's not that it's hard but it's this giant armored monster who keeps his mouth closed and opens his mouth as he constantly swings his entire body around non-stop so he's almost never still and the only place you can hit him is in his open mouth and he has a ridiculous amount of life and you're being swamped constantly by nazi enemies who will tear you up fast if you don't take them out.  So basically you have to be VERY.GOOD.AT.AIMING.QUICKLY so that you can turn precise fire into his mouth as it's moving then move quick and take out the nazis and turn and precise fire and repeat.  I.AM.NOT.THAT.PRECISE.AT.AIMING.  So even kicking it down to the I AM A BABY easiest difficulty didn't help because I still had to be able to aim into a very small constantly moving target protected by armor on every side and get a lot of hits in.  Was just really frustrating and almost bailed and youtubed the ending but got lucky after a half dozen runs+ and took him down with a grenade in his mouth.  So yeah, that left a bad taste in my mouth.  Kind of hate when FPS final bosses are frustrating bullshit, I find that kind of stuff occurs more in FPS games than a lot of other genre.  Idk, the aiming is probably easier wtih a KB+M, but these days I use a controller for everything, even PC FPS gaming. 

Other issues are that it's pretty repetitive, there's not a lot of areas, and could've used some more new weapon types, and zombies are dumb.  But it's still a fun 6 hour expansion pack FPS campaign.  The first half pre-zombies and pre-dumb-final boss is way better than the 2nd half of the game.  Better set pieces, more story, more interesting locations.  Second half is just like...zombies.

[chronovore]

Started co-op Dead Rising: Off the Record with Sceneman. I'd forgotten how much I love this series.

[Bebpo]

Yeah, even DR3 was great.  It's a really fun formula.  Would be nice if the series isn't totally dead.

[Bebpo]

Ok, finished my first run of Nier.  Liked it a lot.  Great art/music, good characters, nice little sad stories filling out the small world.  The Facade masked kingdom was my favorite place, had so much character.   Game was way shorter/smaller than I ever thought.  Took me about 14 hours but I skipped like half the sidequests because once they got stupid and way too fillerish while the plot was moving I didn't want to bother doing them.  Don't feel like I missed much not doing them going by the ones I did do.

I think I got the gist of the story but definitely have a lot of questions that I hope the new game+ runs flesh out and clear up.  Does new game+ have new dungeons/areas/enemy types/bosses?  Because one thing I'm wondering is I couldn't upgrade almost any of my 2H weapons to even lvl.2 because they required items that I never found anywhere in the world.  Pretty much just used the spear I bought from the village shop at the start of the 2nd half for the whole 2nd half of the game because nothing was stronger.

So I started new game+ and are all the new scenes just going to be text?  I mean I liked the ones at the start, but just wondering if there's actual real new cutscenes in new game+ or if the game is so budget that all the new scenes are just black screens + text.  That's one thing I got from the game, the budget must have been real small.  The world is pretty tiny and re-running through the dungeons all over again was kinda lame but I guess they couldn't afford more areas.  Even the final dungeon is just a bunch of hallways lol.  Hope Nier 2 has a bigger budget!  Btw, I can see how Platinum is pretty much the perfect fit for Nier.  I mean the boss kill moves you do in Nier with the giant red fists and spears and stuff is straight out of Bayonetta.  Just hope it's one of the good teams at Platinum because they've got some sucky staff there going by stuff like TMNT and Korra.

So now at this point in new game+, should I start using a faq to get the endings I want?  Or for new game+ do I just run through the game like normal again, watch the new scenes, and get a new ending, and then on new game++ I start using a guide for the endings?  Or should I just do new game+ once and then youtube the remaining endings to get the rest of the story content?  Basically what's the most efficient, fastest way to see all the rest of the story?

*edit* Looked at an ending FAQ and saw that I just play it through normally on this run for Ending B, then on new game++ I need to collect the couple of remaining weapons to have all weapons and then I get an Ending C or D choice and I should pick C, and then I should pick D on the new game+++ run.  But if I don't care about trophies and stuff, if the only difference between Ending C/D runs are a choice at the end, I would assume I can just pick C and then youtube choice D's ending and save 4-5 hours of doing another run through?  I mean does Ending C run even differ from Ending B run outside of the ending?  Aka, can I just beat it this one time with Ending B and then youtube Ending C/D and I've seen it all?  Or does the third run through the game towards Ending C/D have new scenes spread throughout?



Btw, one thing that's kind of lame is the loading screen reports now that I've installed the game sometimes don't give me enough time to read the report before it loads the next area.  This is a bit annoying with the black reports from the 2000s era since there's some interesting stuff in there.

[Take My Breh Away]

Yeah, even DR3 was great.  It's a really fun formula.  Would be nice if the series isn't totally dead.

You should be happy next week at E3, then

[Joe Molotov]

Yeah, even DR3 was great.  It's a really fun formula.  Would be nice if the series isn't totally dead.

You should be happy next week at E3, then

Dead Rising Pachinko

[chronovore]

Yeah, even DR3 was great.  It's a really fun formula.  Would be nice if the series isn't totally dead.

You should be happy next week at E3, then

I had forgotten that the timer keeps running after I've initiated the mission. I can't just get there, i have to finish the mission within that time. Three different missions caught me this wa,y because they were all chained together and I had to run my ass off. Great fun!

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Sceneman and I started of the game in co-op, so of course his character shows up as Chuck. So I was completely unprepared for later, during my solo game, when Chuck shows up as one of the psychos. Fantastic! It's also a neat variation on the boss from DR1.

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[Bebpo]

To be fair though, when you guys were talking about DR3 I was trying to remember it and I couldn't remember almost anything.  So I looked at my steams stats, and yep I put 22 hours in and did all the stuff a couple of years ago, even took a lot of pics while I was playing, but I really don't remember that game.  Something about it's just not very memorable even though I remember having a good time of it all learning all the layouts and the best costumes/weapons.

Hopefully DR4 is a little closer to DR1/2.  I still remember those a lot more.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen. Seems awesome, and I'm thankfully playing on PC so I could install an infinite sprint mod.

[demi]

Dead Rising OTR is great.

I got 1000 in all DR games I am DR fan #1

[demi]

Dragon's Dogma Dark Arisen. Seems awesome, and I'm thankfully playing on PC so I could install an infinite sprint mod.

This is like installing an infinite sprint mod for Dark Souls :thumbsdown:

[BobFromPikeCreek]

I just want to whack monster dick, bruh.

[Bebpo]

Finished new game+ on Nier tried to get all the weapons to make Ending C/D easy.  Still missing 2 which require some sidequest farming.  I read new game++ doesn't have any more new scenes besides the ending true boss and ending C/D, so eh, I'll just youtube those now and save 6-8 hours.  Also will youtube the DLC for any little bits of story. 

Anyhow, New game+ was nice, showing the other side of the battle was cool.  Story still feels a little skeletal at this point.  Hope the rest of the endings and wiki reading fleshes the plot out better.

[Bebpo]

Ok, watched Endings C/D.  Glad I didn't spend any more hours playing the game to get them as they don't add like anything to the plot.  Also watched the DLC which was interesting in the riddles between load screens, but yeah I have a million questions about the plot.  Time to go wiki. 

Nice game though.  Facade and Forest of Myth are the best.

[Bebpo]

Ok read the wiki and the novellas and stuff from the art book.  Hmmm, plot makes sense but feels really messy with a lot of holes connecting from Drakengurd 1 -> Nier's gameplay time-line.  Wonder if Nier 2 will fill in some of the gaps.

[demi]

So you passed up on the best ending? ROFL

This guy's like

"Well there's a LOT of plotholes so Nier just isn't really good"

Take this trash to GAF already

[The Sceneman]

Dead Rising OTR is great.

I got 1000 in all DR games I am DR fan #1

I should probably try and do this, but I'll need to devote an entire day to survive infinite mode in DR1 and I dont trust myself to not fuck it up 

[Bebpo]

Now that I'm done with Nier, started my first real Dark Souls II session.  I don't know where anything is and so I'm stuck just using a sword atm.  Made it through Forest of the Giants and Heidi Flame Tower, though Pursuer gave me trouble at first with my dinky broadsword+1 until I got the hang of rolling under his dash uppercut and hitting him a few times.  Switched over the Bastard Sword greatsword and got it to +4 with my first Large Titanite shard in Lost Bastille which seems fine so far.  Also made it pretty far in No-Man's Wharf without much difficulty but it was so damn dark in there I left to do other areas.  Got my first magical unpetrify twig so I went to the first statute I remembered in Majula and unlocked the Shade Forest.  That's about where I'm at now, 5 hours in.  I'm kind of waiting to find the respec potion that I hear there's a couple of so that I can find a good DEX Katana and respec to a DEX+Magic build for enchanted fast good range katanas or something.  The Bastard Greatsword is a bit too slow for me and the Broadsword is just too boring and short of a reach. 

I'm also a little overwhelmed by splitting the stats into even more categories, so it's like what do I upgrade?  I got VGR/END up to like 14 to have some HP/END and then I focused on getting STR to 20 and DEX to 14 so I could at least use different weapons I've picked up.  Unfortunately my VIT is really weak at 7.  Now that it does like jack shit besides equip load increase I don't really feel compelled to upgrade the stat as long as I'm still staying underweight.  Also this new ADF stat that boost resistance to elements seems like it's probably important but I haven't put any stats in yet.  Probably around lvl.40 now. 

[Bebpo]

So you passed up on the best ending? ROFL

This guy's like

"Well there's a LOT of plotholes so Nier just isn't really good"

Take this trash to GAF already

I saw all the endings.  Ending C/D path doesn't add anything to the actual game so no point in playing a 3rd/4th time when you can just youtube the new end/endings.

Anyhow, I read this whole thing:  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vEP2iZ52P-DWhQBQ2Is6R8Wjao99AGi0YuWShTvA-tA/preview
It was helpful.  I get the story now and it's interesting, it's just really weird.  Looking forward to Nier 2 and will probably play Drak 3 soon.

[Bebpo]

Here I was thinking Dark Souls II was kind of a easy joke compared to DS1/Bloodborne as I blew through No-Man's Wharf and Lost Bastille easily.

Then hit the Lost Sinner and fuck this shiiiit.  Dude is ridiculously fast and has crazy tracking on his swings.  I can't even get distance enough to heal half the time.  Between The Pursuer and this guy it seems like DS2 bosses are basically fast big sword dudes that track like magic when you roll around. 

[tiesto]

Just got BOF4's "bad" ending... gonna grind a bit and go for the good ending some time later this week. Also up to the final dungeon of Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time (longest game name ever?)

[mormapope]

Here I was thinking Dark Souls II was kind of a easy joke compared to DS1/Bloodborne as I blew through No-Man's Wharf and Lost Bastille easily.

Then hit the Lost Sinner and fuck this shiiiit.  Dude is ridiculously fast and has crazy tracking on his swings.  I can't even get distance enough to heal half the time.  Between The Pursuer and this guy it seems like DS2 bosses are basically fast big sword dudes that track like magic when you roll around.

Did you light the oil things on the left and right of that arena? Not only does it add visibility, it increases the lock on range.

[Bebpo]

Here I was thinking Dark Souls II was kind of a easy joke compared to DS1/Bloodborne as I blew through No-Man's Wharf and Lost Bastille easily.

Then hit the Lost Sinner and fuck this shiiiit.  Dude is ridiculously fast and has crazy tracking on his swings.  I can't even get distance enough to heal half the time.  Between The Pursuer and this guy it seems like DS2 bosses are basically fast big sword dudes that track like magic when you roll around.

Did you light the oil things on the left and right of that arena? Not only does it add visibility, it increases the lock on range.

Nah, I need to do that.
Btw, how do you light a torch?  I keep picking up torches and I see a timer in my equip screen which I guess is torch life, but I don't know how to equip and use them.  Just been turning the brightness up for the dark areas to see.

Also I watched some youtube vids of people fighting Lost Sinner and I'm surprised that everyone has shields and blocks and stuff.  See in Dark Souls 1/Bloodborne I never used a shield, I just rolled through/past everything.  But I'm noticing in DS2 that isn't working as well because the enemies track your rolls and still hit you when you roll unless you roll perfect timing.  So did they basically nerf rolling/dodging in DS2 and I need to learn how to block?  I don't like using shields because I try to keep weight low for my roll dodges and I haven't used a shield yet in DS2, but maybe I need one for this guy.  Also is DS3 like that too?  In general I don't like blocking in videogames, I highly prefer dodging/rolling.