Dexter is pretty fuggin great

[OptimoPeach]

How far along is this season? I don't want to check wikipedia for fear of spoilers. I've got four episodes left in Season 2 and checked one damned thing in wiki, only to get a spoiler on Doakes. 

I've learned to stay off Wiki after having 3 separate character deaths spoiled while looking at the episode list of The Wire. But S4 is only 4 episodes in, so you'll probably have a nice amount of padding before you have to wait for weekly episodes.

Copy/pasting my GAF post since I'm too lazy to be original

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Sometimes I think the writers intentionally make all the side characters boring and shitty just for Dexter's deadpan sarcasm in their exchanges. It's so painfully clear that he doesn't give a fuck what's going on with any of those distinguished mentally-challenged fellows (Quinn last week, Angel/LaGuerta and Deb last night), and seeing him echo the audience's sentiment of apathy (and almost antipathy at moments) towards those characters is almost worth the torture of all their tedious and banal horseshit.

Anyway, I'm really glad we finally got to see Dexter savor a kill this season. And was I the only one that almost died when he was like, "What is it with you and rape? No one's getting raped!"

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"What's your thing with rape - nobody is getting raped here!"

YES

[chronovore]

Good call, Eel.

... did anyone not want Dexter to kill the hot lady cop? She was so fine.

"What's your thing with rape - nobody is getting raped here!"

Dude. Spoiler?

[The Fake Shemp]

Dude, the show is about a serial killer, he kills a person on almost a weekly basis. This chick had no bearing on the main story arc or anything, she was just another kill.

Optimo, my brother and I were dying for ten minutes after that. When Dexter is in full-on asshole mode ("They said that stain would come out!"), he's pretty hysterical.

[fistfulofmetal]

i can sort of see two things coming, don't click and read if you're gonna get mad at me if i'm right:

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lithgow's gonna kill lundy

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called it

maybe/maybe not. it's debatable whether

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it was Trinity or the Vacation killer (remember him? The little subplot that no one cares about?)

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[Eel O'Brian]

you could be right, but i think

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lithgow just took the opportunity to make it look like the vacation killer did it

seemed like there was some recognition in lundy's eyes right before the shot

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[OptimoPeach]

Optimo, my brother and I were dying for ten minutes after that. When Dexter is in full-on asshole mode ("They said that stain would come out!"), he's pretty hysterical.

Yeah, Hall was in top form in the scenes with the cop.

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It also helped that this was the first time we really got to see the monster this season, and it made the dichotomy with his "normal" persona all the more startling.

Oh yeah, and I already said this on GAF as well, but I'm inclined to think that it was the Vacation Killers that did in Lundy. Trinity's earlier encounter with Lundy had red herring written all over it. I won't be surprised if I'm wrong, though

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[BobFromPikeCreek]

Just watched the two most recent episodes. Glad we got to see Quinn's reporter girlfriend's jugs.

[brawndolicious]

I think..

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..it was trinity making it look like the vacation murderers because fbi dude looked like he realized whoever was shooting him.  if true, the next episodes are going to show laguerta and dexter fighting over who they believe did it all, ending with a season finale where both the vacation murderers and trinity all get killed together or something.  This all depends on whether or not Debra died though.

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it's crazy enough to work.

[OptimoPeach]

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I'm absolutely positive Deb isn't dead, sadly

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[CajoleJuice]

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I'm absolutely positive Deb isn't dead, sadly

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Yeah, definitely 0% chance she dies

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[chronovore]

Dude, the show is about a serial killer, he kills a person on almost a weekly basis. This chick had no bearing on the main story arc or anything, she was just another kill.

Optimo, my brother and I were dying for ten minutes after that. When Dexter is in full-on asshole mode ("They said that stain would come out!"), he's pretty hysterical.

Ah, OK, OK. I didn't realize it was about a weekly "incidental" killing; when you mentioned police officer, I assumed it was a central character.

[The Fake Shemp]

Yeah, I would spoiler tag that shit.

[CajoleJuice]

"What's your thing with rape - nobody is getting raped here!"

I lost it at this line too.

[BlueTsunami]

Masuka is the best fucking secondary character ever

Vince Masuka: "Oh I knew I knew half those hookers where Pre-Op cheeseburgers. Is it true their junk still works but nothing comes out? Its called slug fucking."

[OptimoPeach]

Cross-posting from GAF for the bump:

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I don't know if I've enjoyed a season this much since the 1st, even despite all the dull and exasperating elements (Rita being a paranoid bitch, Deb going to pieces, gag-inducing office romance) being as prevalent as ever. Man was that whole office scene fucking intense. That single 8 minute sequence left me jizzing at the prospect of their future encounters.

Now for the nitpicking. Seeing as the writers were alluding to Trinity as Dexter's antithetical equal, I guess the family man reveal isn't all that surprising. However, it's a little too coincidental that out of all the cities he frequents, it just happens to be Miami that is his "home" -- this is assuming, of course, that they don't give him multiple families, which would be equally unbelievable. They're really testing the audience's suspense of disbelief here.

Whatever, I'm still looking forward to next week

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Masuka is the best fucking secondary character ever

Vince Masuka: "Oh I knew I knew half those hookers where Pre-Op cheeseburgers. Is it true their junk still works but nothing comes out? Its called slug fucking."

Probably the only regular side character that has remained tolerable since the beginning. One-dimensional is okay in small doses

[chronovore]

One dimensional is okay with one liners, maybe?

I like Dex's sister, and Lundy. The rest are like escapees from a daytime soap opera.

[Eel O'Brian]

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they HAVE to do a parody of the intro titles with trinity next episode

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[The Fake Shemp]

Dexter needs to dump Rita.

[OptimoPeach]

One dimensional is okay with one liners, maybe?

I like Dex's sister, and Lundy. The rest are like escapees from a daytime soap opera.

yes

this season kicks ass.

Yes

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they HAVE to do a parody of the intro titles with trinity next episode

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Yes! But I doubt it will ever happen

Dexter needs to dump Rita.

#t=28s

[Van Cruncheon]

even money says rita bites it, although i have no idea what they'll do with the kids. the

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blood on the wedding dress at the very end of s3 could indicate that their marriage will end in violence

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. i'm hoping!

[The Fake Shemp]

I think she'll kick the bucket, as well. Dexter will sell the children to Chinese slavers, and begin his carefree life as a cryptozoologist.

[TakingBackSunday]

Rita is too hot to off  :'(

just have her never speak ever again

[Van Cruncheon]

i'd like to see dexter and debra hook up

right, brandnew?

[The Fake Shemp]

 

[TakingBackSunday]

That is such a new joke!

[The Fake Shemp]

It's new material with a classic twist!

[OptimoPeach]

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That scene with Deb and the methhead was so bad

And Dexter giving Rita a bread maker was probably one of the funniest moments of the show ever

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[CajoleJuice]

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That scene with Deb and the methhead was so bad

And Dexter giving Rita a bread maker was probably one of the funniest moments of the show ever

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Yeah, that was totally awesome.

[Eel O'Brian]

terrific season so far, but please no more naked lithgow

[The Fake Shemp]

I really thought we were going to see his dong last night.

[chronovore]

I just finished Season 2 yesterday. What a fantastic ending. I really like it when one of these long-arc shows does the right thing by its fans and actually closes on a reasonable note. I bet the writers are as happy about it as the producers and ex-prods are unhappy about not having a hook set in the lip of the audience.

I still want someone to pimp slap LaGuerta; god what a self-righteous, melodramatic bitch. More Deb. Deb rocks. And she digs older guys. :wigglingeyebrows

But overall it is neat to see them acknowledging Dexter's evolution and possible normalization. It's atypical of psychopaths to have deep, meaningful relationships with others, which is what they've implied with Season 2. In Season 1 it was more like everyone around him was part of the disguise he wore to keep himself safe, all part of Rule #1: Don't get caught. I wonder where they'll take this more human Dexter.

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I also think that having him kill off Lila is having him destroy the most amoral portion of himself. He tells her "we're the same," but it's not as though that's just bullshit to get her guard down. He knows it, he believes it, and it's part of why she has to die.

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[BlueTsunami]

Lady: "You gonna' rape and kill me?"

Dexter: "What is it with you and rape? No one is raping anyone"

Dexter's delivery made me laugh real hard

[CajoleJuice]

I'm too lazy to add the words at the moment:

[The Fake Shemp]

 

[OptimoPeach]

I thought last night was kinda weak.

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More contrived marriage drama , Latin love subplot resurrected , and the lame twist that probably ends with Reporter Girl being the one that shot Lundy and Deb. Also, some of the stuff felt like retreads of old plot lines, like Dexter going out of town on vacation with a "friend", and Quinn continuing to fill Doakes' role of suspicious coworker -- but maybe I'm stretching here.

On the other hand, Lithgow was tremendous as usual, and I guess not every episode can be a winner. Maybe I've just been spoiled by all the strong endings this season has had.

edit: I just saw the promo for next episode. Rita cheating with neighbor guy? Seriously? The rest looks pretty sweet, though

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[BobFromPikeCreek]

I agree. The season feels kinda weak so far. Everything they're doing feels like its already been done in past seasons.

[OptimoPeach]

I've actually liked it (well, everything involving Dexter and Trinity at least) a lot up until now, but that's probably because the plot progression was so rapid, and last night it kinda just hit a wall

[Vizzys]

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[fistfulofmetal]

Deb without a shirt on

[The Fake Shemp]

Yeah, she was a lot cuter without clothes on than I had imagined.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

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Why doesn't this exist?

[OptimoPeach]

Episode of the season

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Almost started hyperventilating when Dexter dragged Trinity into the closet by his neck. HO-LEEEEEEE SHIT

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I just realized something. Trinity knows him as Kyle Butler. His daughter, the reporter, knows him as Dexter.

OMGGGGGGGGG

Reporter girl just happening to be his daughter is such a ridiculous twist, but I'm willing to overlook it just because of that fucking amazing dinner scene.

edit 2: I would so bang Trinity's other daughter

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[Vizzys]

yeah really good episode

that part you mentioned was awesome

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also lithgow/trinity called his wife a cunt

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[The Fake Shemp]

"Shut up, cunt."

... That was some intense shit right there.

I also would've banged Trinity's daughter.

[BobFromPikeCreek]

Oh man. That was the episode I've been waiting for. So intense.

[Flannel Boy]

Great episode, but come . . . 

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the reporter is Trinity's daughter?

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[BamYouHaveAids]

Great episode, but come . . . 

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the reporter is Trinity's daughter?

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i was starting to feel like i was the only one that thought that twist was ridiculous. completely unnecessary, makes me almost wish people were right and anton was the shooter.

[The Fake Shemp]

Great episode, but come . . . 

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the reporter is Trinity's daughter?

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... Really, four seasons into Dexter and a twist like this surprises and upsets you. You might as well have stopped with the first season!

"THE ICE TRUCK KILLER IS DEXTER'S BROTHER?!!"

[OptimoPeach]

Great episode, but come . . . 

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the reporter is Trinity's daughter?

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i was starting to feel like i was the only one that thought that twist was ridiculous. completely unnecessary, makes me almost wish people were right and anton was the shooter.

I said it first, fuckers

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Reporter girl just happening to be his daughter is such a ridiculous twist

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... Really, four seasons into Dexter and a twist like this surprises and upsets you. You might as well have stopped with the first season!

"THE ICE TRUCK KILLER IS DEXTER'S BROTHER?!!"

That's not even close to the same

[The Fake Shemp]

Yeah, because it happened three seasons ago!

This series has always been about somewhat contrived plot twists that put characters into direct paths with one another.

[CajoleJuice]

Yeah, but now it's gotten to the point where every serial killer is part of some huge extended family.

Having said that, I don't really give a shit.

[OptimoPeach]

Yeah, because it happened three seasons ago!

This series has always been about somewhat contrived plot twists that put characters into direct paths with one another.

I can't think of any that are equally salient aside from maybe Titty Vampire stealing Dexter's GPS and finding/killing Doakes. And the Ice Truck Killer thing is really not equatable at all.

[The Fake Shemp]

You don't find it contrived that Dexter is somehow connected to every antagonist in every season? Or how he conveniently murdered the brother of a DA that not only has personal history with his co-workers, but turns out to be a budding serial killer?

... I'm with Cajole, Dexter is nothing but contrived plot twists. But - hey - the show is entertaining, so who cares.

[Flannel Boy]

Not all contrived plot twists are created equal.

[OptimoPeach]

You don't find it contrived that Dexter is somehow connected to every antagonist in every season? Or how he conveniently murdered the brother of a DA that not only has personal history with his co-workers, but turns out to be a budding serial killer?

... I'm with Cajole, Dexter is nothing but contrived plot twists. But - hey - the show is entertaining, so who cares.

There are varying degrees of plausibility, and nothing prior to this comes close to

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the huge reveal of an extraneous character introduced to the show under circumstances totally unrelated to the main arc suddenly being unveiled as the daughter of the antagonist. It's a twist for the sake of having a twist, and it's cheap and tenuous even considering the developments of previous seasons.

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I did say

I'm willing to overlook it

but come on now

[OptimoPeach]

Also, it's not as much of a stretch that Dexter was connected to previous antagonists because he had a close relationship with each of them at some point. This shit just came out of thin air.

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I will concede the LaGuerta/Miguel angle, but again, that's no where near as significant a development as this

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[The Fake Shemp]

Not all contrived plot twists are created equal.

Some are better, some are worse. Optimo is reaching with his defense of the series. I can at least appreciate the honest of someone saying, "I do not care for this particular contrived plot twist!" rather than a pretty thin defense of a series that has continued to connect every possible character together in pretty contrived ways.

My feeling is like Cajole, it is what it is. It'd be like saying, "I wish they didn't do a biopsy on this episode of House!"

[OptimoPeach]

I acknowledge that the series is abundant with fabricated coincidences, I just think that this particular one is way more flimsy and aggravating than the rest, especially because it's so game-changing. It's not like I'm crying about how this has ruined the whole season, but it is pretty lame.

edit: And House sucks

[OptimoPeach]

Pointless bump, but I'm stunned that there are still people insisting this is the weakest season of the series

[The Fake Shemp]

I like the first two seasons the best, but I don't think there is a huge dropoff between those two and third and fourth seasons respectively. I have enjoyed this season more than the last, though. Lithgow just makes for a far more entertaining antagonist than Jimmy Smits.