Combat sports (MMA, boxing, etc) thread

[Skidmark]

GSP is going to get a hurt!

[chronovore]

[Boogie]

GSP is going to get a hurt!

aww, that's cute.

[OptimoPeach]

Dawww!

BJ's eye looked pretty nasty from the side. Ugliest case of swelling since Starnes vs Aldo?

The presser was...awkward.

edit: I was wondering where you were, Boogie! Thought you might have anger stroked on us after the post-fight interview

[Boogie]

Dawww!

BJ's eye looked pretty nasty from the side. Ugliest case of swelling since Starnes vs Aldo?

The presser was...awkward.

edit: I was wondering where you were, Boogie! Thought you might have anger stroked on us after the post-fight interview

GSP himself summed up my thoughts on Diaz calling Georges scared:



That presser was hilarious!  Dana gives Diaz a title shot and Diaz.....reacts like Dana just shot his dog.  wtf is wrong with you, Diaz?

Was a good win by Diaz, but as I said elsewhere, Penn was one of the best matchups for Diaz at WW in the UFC.  All of that time trading in the pocket against Penn just translates as "double-leg range" against Georges.

[Skidmark]

GSP is going to get a hurt!

aww, that's cute.

Really bad!

[Stoney Mason]

Huge Heavyweight fight tonight and its free on Fox.

Alot of people are picking Dos Santos but I'm going with Cain.

Preliminary card (Facebook and FoxSports.com)
Light Heavyweight bout:  Aaron Rosa vs.  Matt Lucas
Welterweight bout:  Mike Pierce vs.  Paul Bradley
Bantamweight bout:  Alex Caceres vs.  Cole Escovedo
Featherweight bout:  Mackens Semerzier vs.  Robert Peralta
Bantamweight bout:  Norifumi Yamamoto vs.  Darren Uyenoyama
Welterweight bout:  DaMarques Johnson vs.  Clay Harvison
Featherweight bout:  Cub Swanson vs.  Ricardo Lamas
Featherweight bout:  Dustin Poirier vs.  Pablo Garza
Lightweight bout:  Ben Henderson vs.  Clay Guida


Main event
Heavyweight Championship bout:  Cain Velasquez vs.  Junior dos Santos

[Boogie]

How psyched am I?

SO psyched!


Cain if he's healthy and healed from his injury.

[OptimoPeach]

Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster

[CajoleJuice]

Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster

The official deal between FOX and UFC doesn't start until next year. This is like a last-minute preview they put together, I think. I totally agree that it could turn out really badly.

[Boogie]

Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster

The official deal between FOX and UFC doesn't start until next year. This is like a last-minute preview they put together, I think. I totally agree that it could turn out really badly.

Yes, but it being a "last-minute bonus" thing doesn't explain why they couldn't make it 90 minutes and throw Guida/Henderson on too.

[CajoleJuice]

Cain > Junior

Ben Henderson > Clay Guida

I don't think I know anything about the opponents of Cub Swanson, Cole Escovedo, or Kid Yamamoto, and I'm completely unfamiliar with everyone else. Still infinitely better than UFC 138!

Have they explained why only the main event is being televised? It doesn't make any difference to me but it seems like a strange decision, even accounting for the casual fan's love of heavyweights. I can imagine so many scenarios where this just ends in disaster

The official deal between FOX and UFC doesn't start until next year. This is like a last-minute preview they put together, I think. I totally agree that it could turn out really badly.

Yes, but it being a "last-minute bonus" thing doesn't explain why they couldn't make it 90 minutes and throw Guida/Henderson on too.

Not sure they would have needed to stretch it to 90 minutes for that, honestly.

But yeah it sucks. I was hyped for the first event on FOX and then I find out it's just the heavyweight fight. uhhh

[Stoney Mason]

The one fight thing is stupid. Especially since they are introducing the fox audience to mma. But at least that one fight is probably the biggest fight of the year on paper.

[Boogie]

I also heard one analyst say that it is self-defeating in terms of getting good ratings, since for many fight events (that don't end up sucking), the audience grows over the course of a broadcast.

So they could possibly get worse ratings for an hour show, than a two-hour one that builds excitement towards the main event over a longer period.

[Stoney Mason]

Yeah I would have shown at least 2 or three fights and have long lengthy setup video pieces to set up who Dos Santos and Velasquez are. Kind of the way HBO use to do their boxing stuff. A lot of new people are going to be watching this. It would be nice to inform and educate them why this is a big bout instead of just assuming they already know it is.

[Positive Touch]

so anybody else watching the pacquiao marquez fight?

shits gonna be awesome

[Stoney Mason]

That was quick

[Boogie]

That was quick

And unfortunate.

Can't really complain about the stoppage, Cain was face down and not doing shit when Big John stepped in.

[Boogie]

Can't hate on Cigano though.

Damn that guy's heart is big.  Gotta love him.

[Boogie]

lol, dana sounds pissed in the post-fight analysis.

[OptimoPeach]

Yeah he reportedly threw a fit ahaha

Pretty abrupt way to end the night after all that hype. They definitely need a couple fights leading in. The production overall was surprisingly not that horrible but they have to get the NFL music out of there

[CajoleJuice]

Yeah he reportedly threw a fit ahaha

Pretty abrupt way to end the night after all that hype. They definitely need a couple fights leading in. The production overall was surprisingly not that horrible but they have to get the NFL music out of there

They started using the NFL music for every sport this year. I fucking HATED it when they used it for baseball. Fucking garbage.

[OptimoPeach]

Marquez robbed

[CajoleJuice]

lololololol boxing

the worst shit is HBO sucking Pacquiao's dick

I feel like Kellerman tried to be a bit less embarrassingly biased during the broadcast

[pilonv1]

We got 3 fights on the UFC show - Guida/Heno, the main event and DeMarcus Johnson fucking some dude up. Was a great one hour.

[Skidmark]

lol, dana sounds pissed in the post-fight analysis.

What's up with him talking shit about the new champion's gas tank? what was that about?

[Stoney Mason]

The Ultimate Fighting Championship’s first live bout on network television lasted only 64 seconds, but nonetheless managed to become one of the most-watched fights of the new millennium.

Junior dos Santos and Cain Velasquez’s heavyweight title fight attracted 5.7 million viewers and a 3.1/5 household rating to Fox on Saturday night, according to figures released Sunday by Fox Sports Media Group. The statistic makes UFC on Fox 1 the most-watched event in the 18-year history of the UFC, as well as the most-watched professional fight since 2003, when 7 million viewers tuned in to watch Lennox Lewis defeat Vitali Klitschko on HBO.

The UFC on Fox rating also eclipsed the 4.9 million viewers which EliteXC drew to CBS in May 2008 with a heavyweight bout between Kimbo Slice and James Thompson.

In an official release, Fox projected the UFC event to win its 9:00-10:00 p.m. time slot for Saturday, despite heavy competition from a trio of college football games on ABC, NBC and ESPN. UFC on Fox pulled strong numbers in key demographics, including 4.3 and 4.0 in Men 18-34 and Men 18-49, respectively. According to Fox officials, the Men 18-34 rating was higher than all but one college football game thus far this season, bested only by the Nov. 5 showdown between top-ranked Louisiana State and No. 2 Alabama.

The show, which took place at the Honda Center in Anaheim, Calif., was highest-rated in the UFC’s hometown of Las Vegas, where it earned a 5.3/9. Other successful local markets included Dallas (5.1/10), Phoenix (5.1/9) and San Antonio (5.1/8).

[Boogie]

Ratings turned out pretty good after all.

Wonder what the peak rating for the hour will hit.

[pilonv1]

Cain sucks

Also LOL @ Shields/Sexyama for UFC in Japan

RIP Japan

[chronovore]

Cain sucks

Also LOL @ Shields/Sexyama for UFC in Japan

RIP Japan

UFC might do well in Japan if a single local manages to come out on top. Lately, that hasn't been the trend, has it?

[pilonv1]

The only guy who was winning was Okami and he got clowned by Anderson Silva.

[chronovore]

The only guy who was winning was Okami and he got clowned by Anderson Silva.

That wasn't "clowned," that was like the whole clown car.

[Polyh3dron]

sup yall.. fucking scale was acting all nutty today for 139, CSAC is run by dumbfucks

[pilonv1]

CSAC is run by dumbfucks

Bill Douglas knew what he was doing, but by and large yes it's run by distinguished mentally-challenged fellows.

[Boogie]

sup yall.. fucking scale was acting all nutty today for 139, CSAC is run by dumbfucks

Welcome poly.  Please stick around.  Not a lot of quantity in MMA discussion here, but we do allright.

[Stoney Mason]

Crazy shogun henderson fight going on!

[Boogie]

I didn't think any fight had a chance of matching Edgar/Maynard III for fight of the year.

BUT GAWDAMN!  WHAT A FIGHT!!!!

[Stoney Mason]

Yeah that was epic. Both guys showed a ton of heart.

[Boogie]

It's also frustrating that, from lack of star power, this event probably barely did 300k buys.

There have been so many awesome events this fall that have bombed in buyrates.  A damn shame.

[Skidmark]

Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.

[Boogie]

Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.

I love Dana 80% of the time.

He's as much a fan as he is a President, which is his strength.

[Skidmark]

Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.

I love Dana 80% of the time.

He's as much a fan as he is a President, which is his strength.

He is really making this press conference about his opinions. He is also clearly biased and when Ariel got him cornered he just went on in circles and then ignored him and went on about him and judges.

Those presser are perfect for point out the logical fallacies games. You didn't create a sport, your argument is invalid, SHUT UP!

[Boogie]

Dana just has difficulty accepting the thick sexual tension between him and Ariel, 'tis all.

[pilonv1]

Fight should have been a draw. How the last round wasn't a 10-8 is beyond me

[Polyh3dron]

Can someone lamp me for the Fedor fight?

[CajoleJuice]

Fight should have been a draw. How the last round wasn't a 10-8 is beyond me

Agreed.

Amazing fight. I feel bad for Shogun. If only this were the fight on FOX.

[Stoney Mason]

Dana is full of himself, I just hate his ignorance. He talks way more than he should.

I love Dana 80% of the time.

He's as much a fan as he is a President, which is his strength.

He is really making this press conference about his opinions. He is also clearly biased and when Ariel got him cornered he just went on in circles and then ignored him and went on about him and judges.

Those presser are perfect for point out the logical fallacies games. You didn't create a sport, your argument is invalid, SHUT UP!

Dana is Dana. He's one of those guys who has a tough time saying any decision he made wasn't absolutely perfect.

Hey Dana shouldn't you have added Guida and Henderson to the fox show?

"Of course not. That night was perfect!"

Hey Dana this Shogun Henderson fight would have also been perfect for Fox and easy to arrange.

"Stop asking me dumb questions!"

That's Dana.

[pilonv1]

Can someone lamp me for the Fedor fight?

let me get my time machine so we can go back to 2005 when Fedor was relevant

[OptimoPeach]

GSP is "injured"

But really, am I overreacting in thinking his career is in jeopardy here? Two knee injuries in under two months and almost a year-long layoff at the peak of his career and his physical prime....RIP

edit: Might as well give my picks for 140.

Jon Jones vs. Lyoto Machida
Frank Mir vs. Antônio Rodrigo Nogueira
Tito Ortiz vs. Antônio Rogério Nogueira
Claude Patrick vs. Brian Ebersole
Mark Hominick vs. Chan Sung Jung

Wouldn't be too shocked if Machida walks away with the strap but it's hard to pick anyone vs Jones after the year he's had. One of the most impressive string of victories in recent memory if he puts away Machida. Still don't think it's so much of a foregone conclusion as people are making it out to be. Machida will probably get ragdolled in two rounds and make me look dumb, though.

Picking Mir AND Tito to win on the same card makes me sick but the Nogs look terrible these days

[Flannel Boy]

This is especially bad news tonight for any criminal who finds himself on the wrong end of a certain Mountie's taser-gun.

[pilonv1]

GSP is a pussy, Frank Shamrock fought on a torn ACL.

[Stoney Mason]

Dana White fires Torres for an admittedly lame twitter joke yet he calls somebody a pussy and a taco and keeps his job. That's fair.

[OptimoPeach]

A joke plagiarized from a sitcom on FOX's own FX, even.

Pretty excited for tomorrow. And in case anyone forgot, we still have the NYE event with Overeem vs Lesnar (omgomgomgomg) and Nate Diaz vs Donald "Brokeback" Cerrone. Jon Fitch is on there too if anyone cares

[OptimoPeach]

HAHA F Tito and his deformed head

edit: I can't stand Mir but that was awesome. Nasty nasty nasty

[Stoney Mason]

That was fucking nasty.

[Stoney Mason]

Good first round for Machida. He won it.

[OptimoPeach]

O M F G

CHoked him unconscious and walked away like a boss

Unreal

[Stoney Mason]

OMFG holy Shit!

[OptimoPeach]

24 years old

Most excited I've been for a fighter's future since seeing GSP at UFC 50

Crazy

Who the hell is this on the SRN with TJ? I need my BREEEN

Another line break for moar emphasis

[Stoney Mason]

Was a great card tonight.