NPD July 09

[Purple Filth]

Stolen from GAF

PlayStation 2 108K
PlayStation 3 121.8K
PSP 122.8K
Xbox 360 202.9K
Wii 252.5K
Nintendo DS 538.9K


Wii SPORTS RESORT W/ WII MOTION PLUS WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA July-09 508.2K
NCAA FOOTBALL 10 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS July-09 376.5K
NCAA FOOTBALL 10 PS3 ELECTRONIC ARTS July-09 237.4K
WII FIT W/ BALANCE BOARD* WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-08 164.3K
MARIO KART W/ WHEEL WII NINTENDO OF AMERICA April-08 156.6K
MARIO KART DS NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA November-05 132.2K
POKEMON PLATINUM VERSION NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA March-09 116.4K
FIGHT NIGHT ROUND 4 360 ELECTRONIC ARTS June-09 116.4K
NEW SUPER MARIO BROS NDS NINTENDO OF AMERICA May-06 101.8K
EA SPORTS ACTIVE BUNDLE WII ELECTRONIC ARTS May-09 96.8K


Hardware is depressing (sans DS), software too

360 knocking on Wii's door

PS3 finds a new opponent to battle (first GBA now PSP) 

WSR ends up at the top.

[Don Flamenco]

interesting. 

I thought WSR would be much much higher, considering everyone bought their Wiis for the first one.  but RE5 360 is holding on to the crown for this year so far

and lowell at the hardware.  Wiis are everywhere now and sales have plummeted.  Fad over?

[twerd]

Wii Sports Resort

[demi]

Boring, I want some leaked numbers

[archie4208]

Seeing the Wii decline so much makes me happy.

[Human Snorenado]

Seems Wii has reached market saturation, only so many people will play non-games.

Also, YEAR OF THE PSTRIPLE continues unabated.

[twerd]

Seeing the Wii decline so much makes me happy.

Won't be long now before Nintendo has to close shop. 

[Bildi]

Wow, the Wii is really declining.  Maybe it will force Nintendo to make some games.

[BlueTsunami]

PS3 now outselling PS2?  How long has this been going on

[archie4208]

Seeing the Wii decline so much makes me happy.

Won't be long now before Nintendo has to close shop. 

Mario Galaxy 3 in HD and with achievements

[Don Flamenco]

whoa, didn't see the PSP outsold the PS3.  fucking hell

[twerd]

Wow, the Wii is really declining.  Maybe it will force Nintendo to make some games.

Wii Fit Plus and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are en route. 

[Purple Filth]

Wow, the Wii is really declining.  Maybe it will force Nintendo to make some games.

Wii Fit Plus and New Super Mario Bros. Wii are en route. 

This is could be the one to send it up again.

[CurseoftheGods]

Wii price drop imminent.

[Oblivion]

Wii price drop imminent.

Iwata recently stated 'nope'.  :'(

[cool breeze]

was there news that infamous got a boost in sales?

the only thing I noticed before these numbers was the story that Wii Sports Resort sold 500k, and I guess Sega saying The Conduit sold alright enough for them.

and I'm a bit confused, is that supposed to be bad for the Wii? it's still outselling both PS3 and 360 combined with hardware from 2001

[The Fake Shemp]

YEAR OF PS3!

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The PS3 has tapped out its market potential.  Nine straight months of year over year decreases.

Whether the Slim PS3 is coming out or whether it will accompany a price drop, it would seem pretty unlikely that PS3 sales would explode for no reason.  Killzone 2, SCE's seven figure savior, has flatlined.  LittleBigPlanet is pretty much forgotten.  The only three hail mary longshots that Sony has is God of War 3 (never moved huge numbers of systems in the past), Gran Turismo 5, and the chance of a Slim PS3 being somehow so aesthetically pleasing that people who had no urge to get a PS3 did because of a few cosmetic changes to the hardware.

At this point, it seems like a better idea for Sony to just let the PS3 limp along.  PSP, despite it being Pirate Central, still puts up some good hardware numbers.  We'll see how the PSP Go unfolds, as it seems to be Sony's greatest troll to the industry.

[Purple Filth]

The PS3 has tapped out its market potential.  Nine straight months of year over year decreases.

Whether the Slim PS3 is coming out or whether it will accompany a price drop, it would seem pretty unlikely that PS3 sales would explode for no reason.  Killzone 2, SCE's seven figure savior, has flatlined.  LittleBigPlanet is pretty much forgotten.  The only three hail mary longshots that Sony has is God of War 3 (never moved huge numbers of systems in the past), Gran Turismo 5, and the chance of a Slim PS3 being somehow so aesthetically pleasing that people who had no urge to get a PS3 did because of a few cosmetic changes to the hardware.

At this point, it seems like a better idea for Sony to just let the PS3 limp along.  PSP, despite it being Pirate Central, still puts up some good hardware numbers.  We'll see how the PSP Go unfolds, as it seems to be Sony's greatest troll to the industry.

I actually agreed with most of this. They have milked 399.99 for all its worth.

[Eel O'Brian]

one thing they need to do is open up the floodgates on their back catalog on psn and keep the prices cheap

they're obviously still bleeding so i don't really see a price cut coming soon, but if they could get that rumored software PS2 BC at least partially running for some of their catalog, and say include a NEWER PS3 exclusive, extra controller, and a download voucher for a handful of PSN/PS1/PS2 games, the $399 might not look like such of a big wallet hit

[cool breeze]

It would still be $400.  I think you're giving the average consumer too much credit.

[tiesto]

Some fun games in that top 10, at least. I played the fencing of Wii Sports Resort and it wasn't as horrible as I thought. Still a bit simplistic and I don't see myself buying the game tho...

[tiesto]

Is it the crisis or does this gen seem over sales wise? I thought I heard talk that this gen was supposed to last longer etc., but judging by these sales numbers everything is in decline. Maybe its just the shitty 2009 games line up?

Well the summer is usually a pretty slow time for games in general... I'm sure the crisis doesn't help matters any. Mainly looks like the Wii is slowing down and is in need of a price drop.

Here's July 2007 for instance:

Wii-425,000
360-170,000
PS3-159,000   
PS2-222,000   
DS-405,000   
PSP-214,000
GBA-87,000

[cool breeze]

Is it the crisis or does this gen seem over sales wise? I thought I heard talk that this gen was supposed to last longer etc., but judging by these sales numbers everything is in decline. Maybe its just the shitty 2009 games line up?

Natal

[AdmiralViscen]

I don't see why PS3 can't put up some solid numbers at $299.

What's the verdict on LBP? Anyone still turn it on? Lots of new worthwhile levels, or is it pretty much tapped out?

[The Fake Shemp]

Huh? It's summer, the numbers are always rough.

Games are selling, publishers are making money. It's not a dark and gloomy picture. For the games retail industry, this has been one of the greatest periods of sustained growth since the industry's inception.

You people.

[Don Flamenco]

lol, this gen is not over.  there are 2 pieces of plastic coming out in the next few months, one with the word "Halo" printed on it, the other with "Call of Duty" on it.  They will both sell ridiculously well and give a boost to system sales.   

[cool breeze]

I don't see why PS3 can't put up some solid numbers at $299.

What's the verdict on LBP? Anyone still turn it on? Lots of new worthwhile levels, or is it pretty much tapped out?

there is a goty edition coming that has all dlc on the blu-ray.  I've played it a few times over the summer local co-op and I still enjoy it.  No stellar levels, just a lot of good ones.  Last time it got a boost in quality levels was when they introduced the new gameplay mechanic with the Metal Gear DLC.  People thought they would do that regularly, but so far, that has been the only one.  

[AdmiralViscen]

How hard is it to find worthwhile stuff? When my friend rented it, we played it and everything was trophy whoring bullshit

[cool breeze]

you can search by most played and highest rated levels now, but the best way to find good levels is still to experiment.  They still haven't found a good solution to that and it's still mostly the youtube model, except it doesn't really work as well since it's not as simple as clicking a link and watching a two minute video.  The Modnation kart racer game is going to have the same problem.

[Brehvolution]

I only see myself buying 3 games the rest of the year... Madden, Uncharted 2, and maybe MW2 . Although I've heard good things about Brutal legend and Borderlands could be a wild card. Shadow complex is there too if the price is right.

[demi]

I only see myself buying 3 games the rest of the year... Madden, Uncharted 2, and maybe MW2 . Although I've heard good things about Brutal legend and Borderlands could be a wild card. Shadow complex is there too if the price is right.

uh, what do you mean the price is right. it's $15 and always has been. take it or leave it. BITCH

[The Fake Shemp]

If you look at the sales data from the beginning of the generation until now, I think you'll find that there was a nice lil peak around late 07 early 08.  The industry is down this year compared to last year.  Put your fingers in your ears if you want but I don't see how anyone looking at the sales data could say we're in the salad days.

As for publishers making money, which ones?  From the Q1 results we saw, Nintendo and Activision are making money.  Virtually everyone else that publicly reports their information posted a pretty large loss this quarter.

You're talking to a recent DM-in-training that has run multiple stores for two videogame retailers over the past five years.  The current console generation has been fantastic for retailers.  Yes, there is some contraction in growth that has coincided with the recession, but never before has the industry had this much sales growth. Part of it is Nintendo tapping into a market and part of it is Microsoft figuring out how to properly market milk the hardcore.

This belief that its been an awful time for everyone involved is pretty narrow.

[demi]

@ willco

[The Fake Shemp]

I never said there was going to be a ten year cycle.  That concept is stupid.

I was more or less responding to Kosma and similar criticism of the current console generation in terms of sales performance.

Predicting the peak of this console generation is also kind of silly.  Wait, you're telling me there is a sales decline that coincides with an economic recession?  That's totally crazy!

[Trent Dole]

[Brehvolution]

I only see myself buying 3 games the rest of the year... Madden, Uncharted 2, and maybe MW2 . Although I've heard good things about Brutal legend and Borderlands could be a wild card. Shadow complex is there too if the price is right.

uh, what do you mean the price is right. it's $15 and always has been. take it or leave it. BITCH

Then the price is right. 

[dammitmattt]

and I'm a bit confused, is that supposed to be bad for the Wii? it's still outselling both PS3 and 360 combined with hardware from 2001

252k > 324k 

You missed the newsflash that HD gaming is finally winning again!

Then the price is right. 

Fuck, yeah.  If there EVER was a price that's right, it's this.

[Himu]

Sony really needs to drop the price on the ps3. Whether the ps3 slim is real or not, they need to do it before year's end.

If not, they're dumb.

They also need to re-implement bc.

I know so many people who want ps3s, but don't want to get one because of:

1. the price
2. no bc, they still play their ps2s regularly and there's plenty of reason to upgrade towards a bc ps3. There's little benefit to playing a ps2 on an hdtv seeing as you can't upscale with a ps2, ps2's require memory cards and there's the whole better performance thing too. It's just convenient hooking up a wii, ps3 and 360 rather than all that including a ps2.

I think that could go a long way with the hardcore gamers out there that are still on the fence with this gen and still play their ps2.

The fact that Sony still hasn't released ps2 software emulation similarly to how they handled bc in the 80 gig models just makes absolute zero sense to me. They have the tech, why can't they put it in a patch?

I'm a huge Sony fan and they are doing absolutely everything in their power for things to NOT work out for them.

[MCD]

cry more huge sony fan.

[Himu]

I'm not really crying, as I don't really care about sales or console wars.

I'm just amazed how much Sony has fallen in regards to advertising and actual business sense.

It makes no sense.

[demi]

shoulda bought a 360 himuro. loser.

[Himu]

I have a 360 and a ps3.

I haven't turned on either since April/May.

Well, that would be a lie because I watch blu rays and dvds on my ps3, but I haven't turned it on for actual game playing.

[demi]

Thanks for ruining the industry, himuro.

[Himu]

You're welcome, buddy.

Anime's dead, why not kill gaming while I'm at it?

[Brehvolution]

 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Price drop would be bad unless Sony is content on burning through another billion dollars on losses on what will only amount to marginal increases of sales.

Not sure why a price drop would result in a large explosion of sales anyway.  Having the name "PlayStation" on the system is no longer good enough.

[Himu]

That's why Sony needs the slim on the market badly, to decrease production costs. Sure it won't put them in first place, or even second, but shit. Don't go out like this.

[Brehvolution]

Sony is fine. Another company too big to fail for Japan's economy.It doesn't matter as I'm a convert. Only dirty poors are shedding the bitter tears.

[Rman]

I have a 360 and a ps3.

I haven't turned on either since April/May.

Well, that would be a lie because I watch blu rays and dvds on my ps3, but I haven't turned it on for actual game playing.

They're been tons of great gaming on both this summer.  I don't get it.

BlazBlue, Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, Splosion Man, Worms 2, Battlefield '43, Red Faction: Guerilla, Wipeout Fury, Fat Princess, Infamous and on and on.

[Himu]

zzz. More 60 dollar games.

I don't really play games much these days, or have the initiative to play them.

If I play a game it'll be maybe thirty minutes or an hour. The only game this summer that has hooked me in any way is WoW, and I don't even play that all that often.

I don't want any of those games. I'd rather do something else.

[Beezy]

SMH Himuro

WoW

[Flannel Boy]

I don't want any of those games. I'd rather do something else.

Walks in the park are relaxing.

[demi]

zzz. More 60 dollar games.

So you are poor. Ok, don't beat around the bush. No wonder you are suddenly into PC gaming.

[Rman]

That's cool, himuro.  I go through similar periods myself.  Also have you tried gamefly?  It saves me tons of money.

[Human Snorenado]

I have a 360 and a ps3.

I haven't turned on either since April/May.

Jail does tend to cut into gaming time.

[EmCeeGrammar]

Low numbers are expected.  Unlike other escapist outlets, games cost too damn much and are in no way "recession-proof".

WSR fails to move consoles in Japan or America.  Nintendo is avoiding a pricecut by showcasing software, but its all sequels.  There's already been a mario, wii sports, and wii fit game.  They bought in folks.  A sequel isn't going to attract previously disinterested buyers.  Those who think MW2 or ODST are going to move consoles for Microsoft have this faulty reasoning too.

I really think this industry could explode to previously unimaginable levels of success if they could get costs under control and release games at impulse prices. Iphone comes to mind.

[Himu]

That's cool, himuro.  I go through similar periods myself.  Also have you tried gamefly?  It saves me tons of money.

I really want to join gamefly.

[Himu]

zzz. More 60 dollar games.

So you are poor. Ok, don't beat around the bush. No wonder you are suddenly into PC gaming.

Well, not really. It's mostly an issue of value. I don't see the point in spending 60 dollars (which is overpriced to begin with) on a game when, for the last few months, I get tired of playing games within just a few minutes. I'll turn it on and turn it off and be all,"What is the point of this?" and then go watch a movie or read a book or something.

The game will likely end up being disappointing or average anyways, so who cares.

Really can't explain it. I love games, so I don't know why I don't feel like playing them.

I think the game that made me feel like this was Metal Gear Solid 4. I played that in April, and like, aside from the Jak trilogy which I scooped up soon after, and WoW, I haven't really been enthusiastic towards games at all. MGS4 sucked balls.

[maxy]

http://www.vg247.com/2009/08/13/july-npd-ps3-is-just-getting-warmed-up-says-sony/

Sony responds to the NPD,but nothing from NPD is mentioned in PR

About NPD
I don't see this as a bad month,except for Playstation family,but that is business as usual.Sales during summer months were always "low"-200k-ish,spiked by occasional blockbuster software releases.

Nintendo situation shows that price is just one of many things that influence console sales,last gen is a true example of it.
If Wii Fit was at 400k,Wii would be at 500k...
Nintendo problem is that genius things(sales wise) like Wii Fit appear once in 10 years and third party support is mostly very bad,people are noticing things like,where is Red Faction,Saints Row,GTA,Batman,Assassins Creed,etc,etc... Wii...By people i mean people that walk into game stores.
I mean even PSP is getting Ass Creed,GTA,etc...something and Wii the "market leader" is getting nothing.