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Re: Hip Hop
« Reply #60 on: August 28, 2009, 10:24:27 AM »
Where should I start with Gang Starr? I'm always daunted by these giant discographies.

Here's a good start:

[youtube=560,345]0EWJ9JrxU0g[/youtube]
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« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2009, 10:27:45 AM »
Haven't listened to one new hip hop album this year

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« Reply #62 on: August 28, 2009, 12:21:42 PM »
imo so far

Mos Def - The Estatic
P.O.S. - Never Better
Tanya Morgan - Brooklynati
Meth and Red - Blackout 2
DOOM - Born Like This

Probably forgetting something but yea, so far I haven't really been blown away by anything. Anticipating OB4CLII although just about everything I've heard from it is meh. When will these clowns realize part of their popularity is thanks to RZA? Sure he's fallen off, but I'd rather have him on the album than Marley Marl or Pete Rock (in 2009)
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« Reply #63 on: August 28, 2009, 12:24:03 PM »
I'm looking forward to the new Jay Z and that's it

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« Reply #64 on: August 28, 2009, 03:39:34 PM »
[youtube=560,345]sOBr6qe1gUI[/youtube]
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release something mother fucker
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« Reply #65 on: August 28, 2009, 04:00:56 PM »
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« Reply #66 on: August 29, 2009, 03:56:21 AM »
forgot to include the Champer Music album. Wasn't really into it on the first listens but I've given it another chance and like it more. I usually like seeing live instrumentation in hip hop, but at times it sounds too "clean" for the Wu Tang sound. Other times it works perfectly on the album
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« Reply #67 on: August 29, 2009, 04:24:36 AM »
Blueprint III and Til the Casket Drops are probably the only new hip-hop albums I will be listening to for the rest of the year.

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And maybe the new Birdman album.

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« Reply #68 on: August 29, 2009, 04:31:01 AM »
Outside of OB4CLII (which will probably be meh) I'm looking forward to stuff that might not drop this year  :-\

Madvillainy 2
DOOM Starks
anything from Jay Electronica
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« Reply #69 on: August 29, 2009, 04:46:25 AM »
Outside of OB4CLII (which will probably be meh) I'm looking forward to stuff that might not drop this year  :-\

Madvillainy 2
DOOM Starks
anything from Jay Electronica


Why was Raekwon dropped from Aftermath? Was it part of the whole Busta Rhymes deal?

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« Reply #70 on: August 29, 2009, 01:59:27 PM »
Yea he's not on Aftermath anymore; it was a mutual agreement or something. He's releasing the album on EMI now

No one ever joins Aftermath and drops shit lol.
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« Reply #71 on: August 29, 2009, 03:50:32 PM »
Yea he's not on Aftermath anymore; it was a mutual agreement or something. He's releasing the album on EMI now

No one ever joins Aftermath and drops shit lol.

True, Dr. Dre needs to get his label together. Busta Rhymes had a good thing going with Aftermath, but it sounds like Jimmy Iovine is a dick. (Or Busta Rhymes was just being the hotheaded jackass that he always is and lost his best deal ever because of it.)

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« Reply #72 on: August 29, 2009, 08:37:16 PM »
Amped for Rae on the 8th and then Q-Tip's Kamaal the Abstract finally gets an official release on the 15th.  8)
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« Reply #73 on: August 30, 2009, 03:04:46 AM »
Joe Budden breaks up with his gf, posts vid of him mastering a song about breakup...while looking like he's on the brink of tearz
http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhZ68N1NQZrR2Se4G1
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« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2009, 01:52:43 PM »
Blueprint 3 leaks wow. Pretty early

more download links (including some with extra tracks)
http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2178041

SOHH reviews thread
http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2178121

Downloaded it, too busy to listen to it now though. Impressions later today lol


btw how does Jay's album leak before Raekwon's? Amazing
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« Reply #75 on: August 31, 2009, 02:15:58 PM »
lmao

Empire State of Mind

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« Reply #76 on: August 31, 2009, 02:19:20 PM »
I thought he would be on the track, then I checked the official track list and it's just Alicia Keys  :lol
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« Reply #77 on: August 31, 2009, 03:49:42 PM »
Blueprint III leaked.

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« Reply #78 on: August 31, 2009, 06:39:07 PM »
hey guyz did you kno blueprint 3 leaked?!!!  :o :o :o
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« Reply #79 on: August 31, 2009, 08:01:26 PM »
 :lol
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« Reply #80 on: August 31, 2009, 08:03:26 PM »
It's shit innit?
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« Reply #81 on: August 31, 2009, 08:28:48 PM »
It's shit innit?
It's a recent Jay record, so yeah.
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« Reply #82 on: August 31, 2009, 08:30:09 PM »
Listening now. Intro is pretty good

second song (Thank You) sounds like Late Registration era Kanya. Beat has some annoying as fuck background vocals. third verse is fuck awesome

D.O.A: everyone has heard this. like the beat/sample but the concept is kinda laughable when you realize he was gonna use auto-tune on the album until he realized he couldn't do it well

Run This Town: second single. Rhianna's voice is fucking grating.
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« Reply #83 on: August 31, 2009, 08:49:42 PM »
I'm listing to the J. Cole since I only care if he eventually gets an album released- Cole murders Jay. Good news.
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« Reply #84 on: August 31, 2009, 09:06:48 PM »
Off That, Hate, So Ambitious, and Young Forever = terrible. The rest of the album is okay.

And :duh @ me for not reading the posts before mine re: "blueprint 3 leaked."

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« Reply #85 on: August 31, 2009, 09:53:58 PM »
it feels like a victory lap, instead of recalling the angry, cocksure Jay-Z of Blueprint that still felt like he had something to prove. Luckily, Jay-Z's phoned-in records still have better beats than anything out of the Nas camp this past decade. So I'm disappointed to be sure, but at least I can bob my head to it.


I like Young Forever, because only Jay-Z would sample that song.
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« Reply #86 on: August 31, 2009, 10:02:29 PM »
Nas will be angry again :punch
just in time for his next album
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« Reply #87 on: September 01, 2009, 12:18:15 AM »
Jay-Z just might be the most insecure man in hip hop. For all his achievements and world breaking sales he still can't do much better than tell us how good he is, and why we should appreciate him. BP3 is just another mainstream rap n bullshit release from Jay. But he's just traded in the soul loops for electronic beats.

If someone has to constantly tell you that they're smart, most likely they aren't. Same applies to Jay and his constant GOAT boasting which seem to ring hollower with each release. Lyrically the album rarely rises above radio filler. The flow is often slower, mimicking the mannerisms of southern rappers. To make matters worse, he gets outshined at least twice on the album by a guest rapper.

Starts well enough with the first tracks; in fact the third verse of Thank You is one of Jay's best in a long time. Empire State of Mind sounds great, love the chorus. What We Talkin About is a good intro. I like the beat/sample for DOA despite the concept being kinda laughable (the album was going to have autotune until they realized it sounded shitty). Nearly everything else is radio filler.

The album is almost completely forgettable. I don't know who to shake my head at more though: Jay or Kanye. Best production ever? Mind blowing? No. Find me an electronic/techno beat that comes close to Flashing Lights. You can't. Hate is one of the worst songs I've heard this year. Already Home sounds kind of dated, plus Cudi's hook is atrocious; and I'm not being hyperbolic there, it's horrible.

J Cole's verse on A Star is Born>most of this album
Deeper Than Rap>BP3
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« Reply #88 on: September 01, 2009, 12:22:33 AM »
To make matters worse, he gets outshined at least twice on the album by a guest rapper.
You mean like this?

[youtube=560,345]w5y6TeUrr9Q[/youtube]

I've never been able to get into Jay-Z. His flow always sounds awkward or something. Anyway, glad to hear that I'm not missing out on anything.
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« Reply #89 on: September 01, 2009, 12:24:06 AM »
It's like Jay knew he was going to get murdered and gave J Cole the fewest bars possible and he still got killed on it.

J. Cole = Hip Hop's Saviour :bow2

Edit: He even admits it though on A Star is Born
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« Reply #90 on: September 01, 2009, 12:45:42 AM »
Yea, that was a short ass verse. But dude killed it

I hope to god he doesn't become another ruined Roc rapper who drops one album then fizzles. If he's given free license to do what he wants to do (ie no forced club song) he could make something good. Hell, 9th Wonder if from North Carolina too right, maybe they can do some shit together.
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« Reply #91 on: September 01, 2009, 01:03:18 AM »
I trust J. Cole that even if he was forced to do a club song that he would say something insightful or even 'meaningful' about it.
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« Reply #92 on: September 01, 2009, 11:40:03 AM »
Jay-Z just might be the most insecure man in hip hop. For all his achievements and world breaking sales he still can't do much better than tell us how good he is, and why we should appreciate him. BP3 is just another mainstream rap n bullshit release from Jay. But he's just traded in the soul loops for electronic beats.

If someone has to constantly tell you that they're smart, most likely they aren't. Same applies to Jay and his constant GOAT boasting which seem to ring hollower with each release. Lyrically the album rarely rises above radio filler. The flow is often slower, mimicking the mannerisms of southern rappers. To make matters worse, he gets outshined at least twice on the album by a guest rapper.

Starts well enough with the first tracks; in fact the third verse of Thank You is one of Jay's best in a long time. Empire State of Mind sounds great, love the chorus. What We Talkin About is a good intro. I like the beat/sample for DOA despite the concept being kinda laughable (the album was going to have autotune until they realized it sounded shitty). Nearly everything else is radio filler.

The album is almost completely forgettable. I don't know who to shake my head at more though: Jay or Kanye. Best production ever? Mind blowing? No. Find me an electronic/techno beat that comes close to Flashing Lights. You can't. Hate is one of the worst songs I've heard this year. Already Home sounds kind of dated, plus Cudi's hook is atrocious; and I'm not being hyperbolic there, it's horrible.

J Cole's verse on A Star is Born>most of this album
Deeper Than Rap>BP3

jay z lost

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« Reply #93 on: September 01, 2009, 02:00:15 PM »
pitchfork loves jay-z for some strange reason but I think they're gonna shit can this album :bow

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« Reply #94 on: September 01, 2009, 09:13:11 PM »
Only Built For Cuban Linx II has leaked  :o :o :o
http://forums.projectcovo.com/showthread.php?t=2183031
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« Reply #95 on: September 01, 2009, 11:28:35 PM »
BP3 is better than BP2.  That's about it.

I don't really like post retirement Jay-Z.  The whole thing seems weird to me and the fact that he is trying to replicate The Black Album and The Blueprint but falls short every time makes me wonder why he is even bothering other than to make quick cash (as if he doesn't have enough!) as most people will just buy his shit because he made it.
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« Reply #96 on: September 01, 2009, 11:38:06 PM »
What I hope for:
-Illmatic\Stillmatic Nas critically
-Drake to fail commercially
-J. Cole to succeed commercially and critically 

If all this happens I'd say Hip Hop isn't dead to me.
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« Reply #97 on: September 02, 2009, 12:23:01 AM »
It's guaranteed to be a total trainwreck but I am still curious about the Tiesto/Three-Six Mafia collab...
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« Reply #98 on: September 02, 2009, 01:05:59 AM »
Nas is like my third fav rapper but meh, I won't get my hopes up for him again.  :-\

how hard is it to get with good producers when you're NAS. come on, stop getting beats from bums
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« Reply #99 on: September 02, 2009, 03:05:01 AM »
BP3 is better than BP2.  That's about it.
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« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2009, 03:31:39 AM »
OB4CLII isn't bad :bow

[youtube=560,345]ztdwFj1MKVw[/youtube]
ghost's verse  :yuck :lol: :bow
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« Reply #101 on: September 02, 2009, 10:18:11 AM »
OB4CL2? :o

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« Reply #102 on: September 02, 2009, 11:04:32 AM »
Yeah, it leaked.

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« Reply #103 on: September 02, 2009, 01:03:51 PM »
It's not better than Cuban Linx I obviously. Production wise not many beats blow you away like on that album. But damn this is nice regardless imo. I listened to it most of yesterday, then put listened to it while in the bed and liked it even more.

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« Reply #104 on: September 07, 2009, 11:49:33 PM »
kid cudi leaked...listening now.

first track is AWFUL
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« Reply #105 on: September 07, 2009, 11:54:57 PM »
I listened to 1-4 and then stopped lol. +1 for the God-this-guy-is-boring camp. I hadn't heard any of his mixtapes and saw the GAF thread of HYPE HYPE HYPE so I tried to give it a shot. Someone (I think PD) said that his voice works well with his production, and I guess that's at least true. DOOM, for example, (in addition to his emotionless-ass voice) always sounds totally aimless to me, but Cudi is just really monotonous
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« Reply #106 on: September 07, 2009, 11:58:26 PM »
i guess i'm pretty open to vocals. the songs that aren't good on here are pretty much universally the r&b tracks. i've gotta give him props for featuring ratatat on his album tho, i'm glad their awesome rap remixes finally got them somewhere in the rap-o-sphere.

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this ones pretty good.

but fuck man, rappers can't do concept albums.
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« Reply #107 on: September 08, 2009, 12:01:25 AM »
Hah, well, I'm not an R&B fan either. But yeah, the song with Ratatat is neat. MGMT is on there, too
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« Reply #108 on: September 08, 2009, 12:14:58 AM »
Rap has produced great concept albums (Ready To Die, OB4CL, The Cool, etc)

Rap is also filled with people who don't realize ambition doesn't always work well in the genre if you aren't talented. I'm thinking of say Mos Def, who I think is great but his more experimental stuff is just bad; same with Kanye. You kinda want to tap him on the shoulder and say "dude you're talented, but not that talented..." Same with Cudi. Lyrically I'm not impressed, I don't like his singing, the production is meh...why do rappers thinking rapping over more electronic production=innovative awesomeness? Meh

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« Reply #109 on: September 08, 2009, 12:21:33 AM »
why do rappers thinking rapping over more electronic production=innovative awesomeness? Meh

You don't like Deltron 3030? :( I feel like an outcast when I reference that as one of my favorite hip-hop albums ever, it never seems to get any love. Then again, I'm generally not a fan of most electronic production either, so maybe that album's more of an anomaly than anything
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« Reply #110 on: September 08, 2009, 12:26:10 AM »
deltron 3030 :bow
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« Reply #111 on: September 08, 2009, 12:31:29 AM »
Oh yeah, I forgot I made that thread about how much I love that album :lol I got a lot of good recommendations from that
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« Reply #112 on: September 08, 2009, 12:40:47 AM »
I will pimp this guy again since he can rap over electric beats:
[youtube=560,345]O3kMtvOTy3Y[/youtube]
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« Reply #113 on: September 08, 2009, 01:08:04 AM »
Rap has produced great concept albums (Ready To Die, OB4CL, The Cool, etc)

No.

I really like the album, make no mistake, but it doesn't work at all as a concept album.

why do rappers thinking rapping over more electronic production=innovative awesomeness? Meh

You don't like Deltron 3030? :( I feel like an outcast when I reference that as one of my favorite hip-hop albums ever, it never seems to get any love.

??? Deltron 3030 is pretty widely accepted as one of the best rap albums. Add Cannibal Ox (and, by extension El-P) and Viktor Vaughn to the list of rappers that can work an electronica beat.
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« Reply #114 on: September 08, 2009, 01:23:53 AM »
not sayin electronic beats automatically equal shitty rap. just shitty rappers seem to love rapping over electronic beats and then lecturing us about how innovative they are (Kanye, Jay-Z, etc)
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« Reply #115 on: September 08, 2009, 01:41:18 AM »
[youtube=560,345]buvAjP1VN7c[/youtube]


Mmmmm, El-P.  The refrain to this is one of my favorite lines ever.

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« Reply #116 on: September 08, 2009, 03:48:07 AM »
PD, where did you get the Kid Cudi album? I want to download it, but I don't want to waste my what ratio on a transcode / shitty album.

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« Reply #117 on: September 08, 2009, 03:52:16 AM »
I didn't download it lol. It's no doubt on SOHH's forums

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« Reply #118 on: September 08, 2009, 04:02:11 AM »
I didn't download it lol. It's no doubt on SOHH's forums

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Thanks. What do you think of Drake's "Fear?" (HAD TO DO IT)

Other than that, listening to Only Built for Cuban Linx 2 and The Big Doe Rehab.

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« Reply #119 on: September 08, 2009, 04:12:05 AM »
Thanks. What do you think of Drake's "Fear?" (HAD TO DO IT)

"I never cried when Pac died. But I will when Hov does"  :piss2  :maf :-\

I like the beat tho, not a bad song. but imma kill the next person who talks shit about Pac  :'(
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