Author Topic: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir (Read 12099 times)

maxy · « **on:** September 24, 2009, 08:17:25 AM »

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/gta-iv-ballad-of-gay-tony-amir?size=large

cool breeze · « **Reply #1 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:20:47 AM »

Quote from: Kosma on September 24, 2009, 08:20:42 AM

Why are GTA trailers always much better then the game itself?

Lost and the Damned had shitty trailers but the game was great

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #2 on:** September 24, 2009, 08:04:33 AM »

That's Omid Djalili. He's a British-Iranian comedian.

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #3 on:** October 23, 2009, 07:30:16 PM »

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #4 on:** October 26, 2009, 09:07:10 PM »

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cool breeze · « **Reply #5 on:** October 26, 2009, 09:08:55 PM »

semi-NSFW

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Himu · « **Reply #6 on:** October 26, 2009, 09:09:52 PM »

omfg

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #7 on:** October 26, 2009, 09:11:00 PM »

Himu · « **Reply #8 on:** October 26, 2009, 09:18:57 PM »

that was a pretty accurate depiction of modern anime

pilonv1 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM »

apparently

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Fernando is back if you buy the disc version

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Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #10 on:** October 26, 2009, 10:21:32 PM »

"only on CNT"

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** October 26, 2009, 11:05:44 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM

apparently

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Fernando is back if you buy the disc version
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I'm Fernando Martinez. Cinco cinco cinco, nueve dos nueve dos!

tiesto · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2009, 12:40:08 AM »

So, are the Crookers and Major Lazer all they're adding to electro choc, or is more coming? I hope there's more coming, I really hate Major Lazer.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM »

Holy fucking shit. are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game? I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV.

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2009, 01:30:51 AM »

I've still got this game for PS3 but never got past a few missions. Maybe I should fire it up.

chronovore · « **Reply #15 on:** October 27, 2009, 01:44:44 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM

apparently

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fernando is back if you buy the disc version
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Crap. I wonder what happens with 'cheevs if you have both...

The Sceneman · « **Reply #16 on:** October 27, 2009, 03:18:11 AM »

Im looking forward to the combo disc with both DLCs. Fuck emo Nico Belic, say yes to Gay Tony and Gay Bikers. I cant wait for my first gay experience

chronovore · « **Reply #17 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:17:45 AM »

[DEMI ALERT IN 3, 2, 1...]

demi · « **Reply #18 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:20:21 AM »

Um, I am playing this too. GTA4 is not Lost and Damned or Gay Tony. GTA4 is trash.

chronovore · « **Reply #19 on:** October 27, 2009, 05:24:37 AM »

I just wanted to be here for the bear-on-blancmange action if you give Scenester his first gay experience.

bork · « **Reply #20 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:00:40 AM »

Quote from: Scenester on October 27, 2009, 03:18:11 AM

Im looking forward to the combo disc with both DLCs. Fuck emo Nico Belic, say yes to Gay Tony and Gay Bikers. I cant wait for my first gay experience

Considering picking this up too. If the game play has been improved over GTA4, and the storylines are better (with no friend bullshit), I'm game.

chronovore · « **Reply #21 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:05:04 AM »

I dunno. I bought TLaD when it first came out, played a couple missions... Got a panicked phonecall from "Brian" asking to meet up near the clubhouse, about 4 seconds before arriving at the mission initiation point I got another call from Brian, he wanted to play darts. $:-\$

Riding bikes is better tuned than in GTA4. Johnny is neat, but nothing special. I liked Nico, but it was the losers who surrounded him who bothered me. Johnny starts off with a great, antagonistic and dysfunctional relationship with the club boss, so that was already more interesting than GTA4.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #22 on:** October 27, 2009, 07:23:28 AM »

Wow, I might get this now.

tiesto · « **Reply #23 on:** October 27, 2009, 09:52:44 AM »

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM

Holy fucking shit. are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game? I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV.

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.

Pretty funny how it could apply to GTA fans too tho...

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #24 on:** October 27, 2009, 06:19:10 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on October 27, 2009, 09:52:44 AM

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM
Holy fucking shit. are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game? I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV.

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.

Pretty funny how it could apply to GTA fans too tho...

Except the writing is good, voice acting is amazing, and the misogyny isn't couched in adolescent sexual fantasies.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #25 on:** October 28, 2009, 01:03:12 AM »

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 06:19:10 PM

Quote from: tiesto on October 27, 2009, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: Kranz Fafka on October 27, 2009, 01:23:03 AM
Holy fucking shit. are there going to be actual episodes of that in the game? I never bothered to watch TV in GTAIV.

and yeah anime fans, it's spot on.

Pretty funny how it could apply to GTA fans too tho...

Except the writing is good, voice acting is amazing, and the misogyny isn't couched in adolescent sexual fantasies.

Yes, the manchild sociopathery game is better than the foreign manchild cartoons, sure, whatever. It's all stupid time wasteing bullshit. Just shut up and enjoy whatever the hell it is you enjoy.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Seriously, how is anyone into GTA two gens later? I had my fill during the PS2 days and even then I was kind of baffled at all the twits who'd just discovered the game when I'd played the original one to death several years prior.

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brawndolicious · « **Reply #26 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM »

I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

Himu · « **Reply #27 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:18:56 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM

I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

suck my dick

chronovore · « **Reply #28 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:21:45 AM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on October 28, 2009, 01:03:12 AM

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Seriously, how is anyone into GTA two gens later? I had my fill during the PS2 days and even then I was kind of baffled at all the twits who'd just discovered the game when I'd played the original one to death several years prior.
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I dunno. Do people get sick of Madden? Forza or Gran Turismo iterations? Final Fantasy?

There are genres where I try the gameplay, only get a few levels in, and find that's been enough for me. I may not even finish the game. It's enough to understand the gameplay and move on. But something about learning a virtual geography, and then being able to apply that knowledge to solving the missions is a huge kick for me. It could simply be a matter of GTA3 hitting so many of the right pleasure centers that I'm willing to follow its model around endlessly.

In the previous generation I played the R3 Missions (Ambulance, Vigilante, Firefighter) endlessly, gradually getting better at them. Even with GTA3's map limitations, I became accustomed to judging where target-locations were just from incremental movements on the mini-map based on my current location and heading, from which I could deduce the most efficient means of getting to the target. It was like a monkey jamming on the button that rewards it with fruit; I was hooked.

Even so, with the removal of the R3 gameplay and inclusion of Taxis as the main means of transportation in GTA4, I found that I was unable to muster the will to just drive around. They'd removed the gameplay I wanted and even introduced new gameplay which entirely changed the dynamic established in the previous generation. As I play through the DLC, this time around I'm trying to play the game they've provided instead of the one I was expecting.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #29 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:25:37 AM »

That is god damn fucking fantastic

demi · « **Reply #30 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:30:47 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM

I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

Yes dweeb

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #31 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:31:34 AM »

so do you still have to go on dates and shit in this, or what

chronovore · « **Reply #32 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:31:51 AM »

Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM

I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

Yes, every single piece of news on the topic has hammered this home: the DLC requires the original disc, but if you buy the two-pack of Ballad of Gay Tony/Lost and the Damned, it is completely standalone, playable without the original disc.

The part where it's unclear is if the standalone disc version's Achievements count as separate titles -- can players double-up on Achievements through both DLC and disc playthrough?

What about multiplayer? Can BoGT/TLatD disc players join multiplayer games with GTA4 players? If not, what about GTA4+DLC players?

Last night I tried playing multiplayer activated out of a TLatD savefile. My online character model had a HUGE number of new costumes, mostly biker themed. When I tried to join a Ranked Deathmatch game, historically the easiest game to find, there were -no- players. One guy joined and we sat there for a couple minutes waiting for new players. No go. So I think GTA4 multiplayer gets limited by whatever DLC is activated. I definitely want to roll back into whatever environment which allows connecting with the most players.

demi · « **Reply #33 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:32:44 AM »

Nobody actually plays GTA4 multiplayer

cool breeze · « **Reply #34 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:33:58 AM »

Quote from: demi on October 28, 2009, 02:30:47 AM

Quote from: am nintenho on October 28, 2009, 02:03:12 AM
I don't get how anybody liked the original PS2 games honestly, the gameplay was garbage.

back on topic, is it possible to play this without the original GTA4 disk?

Yes dweeb

It's either GTA4 disk in the system, plus the downloaded episode ($20 each), or the Episodes of Liberty City disk, which has both Gay Tony and Lost and Damned on it. The Episodes disk is $40, so if you haven't played GTA4 (or just not on the 360) and still want this, you can just pick up the episodes disk. And Amazon is selling it for $35 + $5 credit.

Quote from: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:31:51 AM

What about multiplayer? Can BoGT/TLatD disc players join multiplayer games with GTA4 players? If not, what about GTA4+DLC players?

Last night I tried playing multiplayer activated out of a TLatD savefile. My online character model had a HUGE number of new costumes, mostly biker themed. When I tried to join a Ranked Deathmatch game, historically the easiest game to find, there were -no- players. One guy joined and we sat there for a couple minutes waiting for new players. No go. So I think GTA4 multiplayer gets limited by whatever DLC is activated. I definitely want to roll back into whatever environment which allows connecting with the most players.

Both Lost and Damned and Gay Tony have their own multiplayer modes/system. Like, Lost and Damned multiplayer had the chopper vs chopper where it was helicopter vs motorcycle (haven't played it myself). Gay Tony has base jumping

pilonv1 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:35:15 AM »

I played it once and it was terrible

cool breeze · « **Reply #36 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:37:12 AM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2009, 02:31:34 AM

so do you still have to go on dates and shit in this, or what

Lost and the Damned didn't make you do any of that stuff. Don't know if they would revert back or not, but Gay Tony has a dancing/club mini game, so maybe.

chronovore · « **Reply #37 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:40:08 AM »

Quote from: demi on October 28, 2009, 02:32:44 AM

Nobody actually plays GTA4 multiplayer

#7 says otherwise:
http://beta.majornelson.com/archive/2009/10/21/live-activity-for-week-of-oct-12th.aspx

Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 02:33:58 AM

Quote from: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:31:51 AM
What about multiplayer? Can BoGT/TLatD disc players join multiplayer games with GTA4 players? If not, what about GTA4+DLC players?

Last night I tried playing multiplayer activated out of a TLatD savefile. My online character model had a HUGE number of new costumes, mostly biker themed. When I tried to join a Ranked Deathmatch game, historically the easiest game to find, there were -no- players. One guy joined and we sat there for a couple minutes waiting for new players. No go. So I think GTA4 multiplayer gets limited by whatever DLC is activated. I definitely want to roll back into whatever environment which allows connecting with the most players.

Both Lost and Damned and Gay Tony have their own multiplayer modes/system. Like, Lost and Damned multiplayer had the chopper vs chopper where it was helicopter vs motorcycle (haven't played it myself). Gay Tony has base jumping

Thanks for confirming. So if I want to play vanilla GTA4 multiplayer, how do I do that? In other games where the DLC limits play, there's usually a switch (UFC2009) or I just delete the DLC (Saints Row 2 Unkut Pack). Maybe I just load a GTA4 savegame and then jump into MP from there?

cool breeze · « **Reply #38 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:42:45 AM »

Quote from: chronovore on October 28, 2009, 02:40:08 AM

Thanks for confirming. So if I want to play vanilla GTA4 multiplayer, how do I do that? In other games where the DLC limits play, there's usually a switch (UFC2009) or I just delete the DLC (Saints Row 2 Unkut Pack). Maybe I just load a GTA4 savegame and then jump into MP from there?

yeah, you just jump into the GTA4 mode and it will be back to GTA4 multiplayer. The game acts as if each episode is its own entity rather than an add-on to the main game.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #39 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:49:13 AM »

So $40 for 12 hours of campaign and probably no online community? I'll probably just rent it.

cool breeze · « **Reply #40 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:59:33 AM »

Lost and Damned alone was probably 8-12 hours (depending on if you want to rush through it or do side missions). Assuming Gay Tony matches that, then yeah, rent it.

Meier · « **Reply #41 on:** October 28, 2009, 10:24:42 AM »

Looking forward to at least renting this as I didn't play TL&tD. I'm guessing you can't just rip the content and then play with your GTA disc as if you'd downloaded it right? (a la Oblivion GOTY edition, etc.)

Sounds like swaggaz probably answered it. Guess we'll find out for sure in a day or two.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #42 on:** October 28, 2009, 10:28:26 AM »

Lost and the Damned was 6 to 10 hours for most people. I spent 15 hours on it. Damn good bargain imo.

tiesto · « **Reply #43 on:** October 28, 2009, 11:04:37 AM »

Definitely gonna rent this, I hope the actual controls have been improved and the missions are a bit less frustrating. I'm expecting lots of little nods to NYC club culture thrown in there.

chronovore · « **Reply #44 on:** October 28, 2009, 12:41:21 PM »

It will be interesting to see how much the sales of Gay Tony are affected by the rental/gamefly/used market. With Lost and the Damned, most people assumed that the only way they'd ever play it was as DLC, until the disc double-pack was announced. This time people who want to play the new missions have an option to rent or buy it used.

It'll be flawed data, I know: at the very least, people who already bought the TLatD DLC can just buy Gay Tony for less than the price of the disc version.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #45 on:** October 28, 2009, 01:27:41 PM »

This is out tomorrow, eh? definitely buying it. still have some points left from that amazon price error a few months back.

cool breeze · « **Reply #46 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:01:06 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on October 28, 2009, 11:04:37 AM

Definitely gonna rent this, I hope the actual controls have been improved and the missions are a bit less frustrating. I'm expecting lots of little nods to NYC club culture thrown in there.

The only real control improvement to Lost and Damned was making Motorcycles handle better (they used the logic that the main character was a biker, so he was naturally a better rider than Niko). The motorcycles handled great in Lost and Damned, and it would take a lot for your to be thrown off.

As for mission structure, Lost and Damned had mid-mission checkpoints (every cutscene is basically a checkpoint now) meaning if you die during the action part of the mission, you don't need to replay the entire "drive to mission area" part. Gay Tony apparently lets you replay old mission too, which is nice.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #47 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:08:41 PM »

http://xboxlive.ign.com/articles/103/1039898p1.html
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3176671
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/grand-theft-auto-iv-the-ballad-of-gay-tony-review
http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/10/28/grand-theft-auto-4-the-ballad-of-gay-tony-review/
http://g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/62753/Grand-Theft-Auto-The-Ballad-of-Gay-Tony/review/
http://gameinformer.com/games/grand_theft_auto_iv_the_ballad_of_gay_tony/b/xbox360/archive/2009/10/28/review.aspx

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maxy · « **Reply #48 on:** October 28, 2009, 02:52:07 PM »

I am playing it...looks better than TLAD

Just scored a chick on a dance floor and nailed it in a toilet

Now to drink something and impress another ...drinks are on the house

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #49 on:** October 28, 2009, 04:38:51 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 26, 2009, 10:13:37 PM

apparently

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Fernando is back if you buy the disc version
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"Remember, a man who cannot support a medallion, cannot support a family."

words to live by

cool breeze · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM »

apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City. They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #51 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:00:59 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 02:01:06 PM

As for mission structure, Lost and Damned had mid-mission checkpoints (every cutscene is basically a checkpoint now) meaning if you die during the action part of the mission, you don't need to replay the entire "drive to mission area" part. Gay Tony apparently lets you replay old mission too, which is nice.

So 12 months later it's starting to incorporate features from Saints Row?

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #52 on:** October 28, 2009, 08:05:20 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 28, 2009, 08:00:59 PM

Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
As for mission structure, Lost and Damned had mid-mission checkpoints (every cutscene is basically a checkpoint now) meaning if you die during the action part of the mission, you don't need to replay the entire "drive to mission area" part. Gay Tony apparently lets you replay old mission too, which is nice.

So 12 months later it's starting to incorporate features from Saints Row?

Except the changes matter now because they're in a game people will want to play

chronovore · « **Reply #53 on:** October 28, 2009, 09:09:31 PM »

*weeps openly* :'( :'( :'(

The Sceneman · « **Reply #54 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:59:46 AM »

I just picked up the combo disc with Lost and Damned and Gay Tony. This had better not suck... at the very least if the cheevs are reasonable w/ no collectathon crap I'll be happy.

In Lost and Damned will I be able to live out my fantasy of riding around Manhattan as a gay biker?!

chronovore · « **Reply #55 on:** October 29, 2009, 06:53:49 AM »

Quote from: Scenester on October 29, 2009, 03:59:46 AM

I just picked up the combo disc with Lost and Damned and Gay Tony. This had better not suck... at the very least if the cheevs are reasonable w/ no collectathon crap I'll be happy.

In Lost and Damned will I be able to live out my fantasy of riding around Manhattan as a gay biker?!

Johnny's not gay, but there's plenty of angst. He's surly, antisocial, and dysfunctional. The club boss is pretty cool; he evokes the kind of fear that Deadwood's Al Swearengen did. There are no collection 'cheevs in TLatD. Ballad of Gay Tony looks like it may have, if the BASE jumping spots are not clearly designated.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #56 on:** October 29, 2009, 01:45:26 PM »

Early in but enjoying Ballad so far.

bork · « **Reply #57 on:** October 29, 2009, 02:50:46 PM »

This just came from UPS, but I'm not touching it until after Bayonetta.

How long is The Lost And The Damned? I'm kinda anxious to play Gay Tony since it's the real reason why I caved in and ordered this in the first place.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #58 on:** October 29, 2009, 03:47:49 PM »

Man this attack helicopter is hard to target with no lock on feature.

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #59 on:** October 29, 2009, 04:24:09 PM »

Quote from: swaggaz on October 28, 2009, 07:21:00 PM

apparently the manual claims that this is the last of Liberty City. They already tease the next game and have an unrecognizable image hinting at the next location.

Dream locations

Rio
Japan
Back to San Andreas (love the laid back West Coast feel of the original)

I just hope they break away from the "stick inside the city" mentality. The non city shit in San Andreas rocked <3

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Author Topic: GTA IV:Ballad of Gay Tony-Yusuf Amir (Read 12099 times)