Author Topic: Why isn't anyone talking about Torchlight? (Read 21508 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #60 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:07:05 PM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 28, 2009, 04:58:23 PM

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on October 28, 2009, 04:55:31 PM
i play games on easy or normal because i like to finish playing games
Nothing wrong with that. I generally play games on Normal also because my goal is to have fun rather than be frustrated. If you've played lots of diablo style games Torchlight is fairly easy at Normal from what I've heard. So fans of the genre I would advise to start on hard if they want a "normal" experience.

yeah, that's what they're saying on the torchlight forums

nothing wrong with wanting a deeper challenge, i'm just quick to throw my hands up and yell FUCK THIS GAME after repeating a level/scenario more than three or four times

and sometimes even on normal the balance goes nuts, like in COD: WaW where enemies threw grenades at you like pitching machines no matter what difficulty setting you chose

demi · « **Reply #61 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:11:55 PM »

That's just bad game design then, Eel. I've mentioned that WAW is horrible a lot of times.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #62 on:** October 28, 2009, 05:19:24 PM »

it's artificial lengthening of play time to cover the fact that that the SP campaigns are so short

COD4 did the same thing, and MW2 will probably do it too (as will MW3 next year, etc)

it's obvious both COD teams consider the SP to be filler tracks nowadays, just a little side bonus you get for buying the MP

pilonv1 · « **Reply #63 on:** October 28, 2009, 07:30:49 PM »

I'm playing on Normal. Will go up to Hard for my next character now I know the interface and system.

The levels with the guy with the wand portal in town are fantastic.

Also

@ the first time

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the chest traps started attacking me.

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This game is so full of awesome.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #64 on:** October 28, 2009, 07:34:53 PM »

I hope this game runs on my fart box PC. My PC struggled a little with Fate, so I'm not too optimistic.

archie4208 · « **Reply #65 on:** October 29, 2009, 02:53:02 PM »

Awesome game. I love how the screen shakes when you do a critical hit. The load times are pretty bad on my dirty poor system though so I will wait and buy it when I upgrade.

cool breeze · « **Reply #66 on:** October 29, 2009, 07:56:28 PM »

Demo was pretty awesome. Played on hard based on what people said and it seemed just right.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #67 on:** October 29, 2009, 08:06:05 PM »

Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on October 29, 2009, 07:02:08 PM

How long is this game anyways?

IIRC there's 36 levels of the mine, and a level cap of 100

pilonv1 · « **Reply #68 on:** October 29, 2009, 09:04:36 PM »

NFI I'm not paying a lot of attention to it. Too much loot.

Gambling store is fucking amazing

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #69 on:** October 29, 2009, 10:59:22 PM »

I'm playing on hard. About 5 hours in. Still a little bit too much like Fate for me.

I wish it was a bit deeper experience. Maybe my mind will change the further I go.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #70 on:** October 30, 2009, 09:32:25 AM »

http://www.torchlightinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270

respec mod

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #71 on:** October 30, 2009, 09:37:19 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 30, 2009, 09:32:25 AM

http://www.torchlightinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270

respec mod

Nice

Bebpo · « **Reply #72 on:** October 31, 2009, 05:08:29 AM »

I bought the game and started a new game with a Mage character on HARD. Soooooo much better now.

To get to floor 5 on normal with my fighter = 37 mins
To get to floor 5 on HARD with my mage = 1:30

Have to got a lot more slowly and use strategy. Buffs/minions/spells/physical. Much more fun. Game is great.

Since I'm new to this genre, I have some questions of things I don't understand:

1. Why does it seem that to do the optimum damage as a mage you need to be a melee mage? That seems counterproductive to being a mage. What I mean is that the 2 handed staffs are waaaay better than the 1 handed one. Or maybe that's just because I got a rare 2-handed one early that deals like 108 damage and gives +4% damage to all magic element attacks. My 1 handed staffs are like 30-50 attack. So what I'm doing is equipping the 2 handed staff and shooting spells.

2. This relates to 1; the tip says if you start seeing "glancing blow" a lot, you need to upgrade your weapon. "upgrade"? I thought the only thing you can do if your weapon is outdated is to get a new one or enchant your current one. Is there a way to upgrade your weapon? Because I'm getting that a lot on floor 5 now with my 2 handed sword I've been using since I was level 2 (level 7 now)

3. This relates to 1: I like the difficulty on hard mode ...but the first boss was CRAZY. My spells were doing JACK SHIT damage. I was doing more damage just standing in its face and smacking it with my 2 handed staff. Now like I said in 1, this seems counterproductive to being a magic shooting mage....what's up with this? Also I died

Luckily I just restarted from the stage entrance and lost some gold.

4. Classes within Classes. I see people saying they are playing a _____ ______, as in picking one of the 3 main classes and then going down one of the 3 sub-classes for skills. Since I'm new to this genre and skill trees, why can't you just pick and choose your spells from all 3? Like to say it more simply: I don't understand why the spells are divided into 3 sub-classes and not just one giant pool? So far at lvl.7 I've just been getting 1 of every spell that seems remotely useful (I think I have all of the lvl.5 and below ones besides Critical Damage+ & Melee Weapon proficiency)

5. Any point in transmuting? I haven't tried it yet.

6. Is HARD balanced in comparison to normal. Like since the enemies are harder do you get better loot or more gold? Because I have very little money and my equip isn't that great. My lvl.6 swordsman on normal mode is much more badass.

7. I haven't gotten any fish or anything to give my pet. Does that stuff not start until later in the game?

I think I had more questions, but I'll remember them next time I play. I reaaaaaaaally like this game. I want to get better at it.

Bebpo · « **Reply #73 on:** October 31, 2009, 06:34:59 AM »

Kinda figured out how mage attacking works. Just seems random which is your best choice for atk between 1 handed staff shooting, 2 handed staff punching, atk spell. Basically whatever has the higher stats is your best way to atk? My atk spells are kind of useless at the moment compared to me standard no-mp-cost shooting. I'm just using magic shield on right mouse button and shoot enemies with left. Played for 3 hours tonight until I hit lvl.10, on floor 7 and have done all the sidequests available so far. Good times.

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 30, 2009, 09:32:25 AM

http://www.torchlightinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270

respec mod

Didn't work when I tried it on the steam version? I just created a /mod dir in the torchlight dir and put /respecmod there. Hope mods will work on the steam version!

What is respec anyway ^^;

Bebpo · « **Reply #74 on:** October 31, 2009, 07:56:47 AM »

Stopped playing and saw it was 4AM, aaaahhhh this is bad. Must sleep.

I beat the Overseer and am on floor 8 now, about to hit lvl.12. Game is definitely a tough on Hard for a genre newbie like me using a weak DEF char like a mage. But it's fun and I'm just barely surviving by my teeth. I love summoning all kinds of allies and then doing my normal ass kicking + all the damage their doing & they distract everyone

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #75 on:** October 31, 2009, 12:15:22 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on October 31, 2009, 05:08:29 AM

I bought the game and started a new game with a Mage character on HARD. Soooooo much better now.

You might want to try the melee character as an alt if you get stuck as a mage.

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2. This relates to 1; the tip says if you start seeing "glancing blow" a lot, you need to upgrade your weapon. "upgrade"? I thought the only thing you can do if your weapon is outdated is to get a new one or enchant your current one. Is there a way to upgrade your weapon? Because I'm getting that a lot on floor 5 now with my 2 handed sword I've been using since I was level 2 (level 7 now)

Yea, that's what they mean by upgrade. Get a better one (with a better DPS).

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3. This relates to 1: I like the difficulty on hard mode ...but the first boss was CRAZY. My spells were doing JACK SHIT damage. I was doing more damage just standing in its face and smacking it with my 2 handed staff. Now like I said in 1, this seems counterproductive to being a magic shooting mage....what's up with this? Also I died Luckily I just restarted from the stage entrance and lost some gold.

I don't play mage classes, but I would think that using your pet as a meat shield (set his stance to AGGRESSIVE) while you sit back with magic would be the way to go. Just remember it's SHIFT + 1 to heal your pet with a potion. Keep him healed up.

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5. Any point in transmuting? I haven't tried it yet.

It's not as important in the early levels as the gems you get offer little bonuses and you turn over your weapons and armor so much it's almost not worth the time. Once you hit level 15-20'ish you should start combining your gems (transmuting) and using the sockets on your gear. You should be saving all your gem shards in your personal chest.

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6. Is HARD balanced in comparison to normal. Like since the enemies are harder do you get better loot or more gold? Because I have very little money and my equip isn't that great. My lvl.6 swordsman on normal mode is much more badass.

That's a good question. I don't think anyone has done the math yet.

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7. I haven't gotten any fish or anything to give my pet. Does that stuff not start until later in the game?
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You need to find a fishing hole. There is one in the SE section of the main town. The deeper you go into the dungeon, the better the fishing holes will be.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #76 on:** October 31, 2009, 12:52:32 PM »

Quote from: Borys on October 31, 2009, 06:47:18 AM

Respeccing is legalized cheating IMO. Diablo games do not allow it.

Respeccing is for whiners who made one build only to discover it kind of sucks and they don't want to start over the whole game from scratch.

respecs
being a man of your build

It's being included in D3, last I heard

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #77 on:** October 31, 2009, 01:50:45 PM »

It is coming in a patch to Diablo 2 also. It's 2009 after all. Not 1999.

http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Hellforge/Diablo-2-Patch-113-to-Feature-Re-Specs

Those stuck in the dark ages shoud take their non-respec ideas back to DOS and putting in the correct DMA settings for your sound card.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #78 on:** October 31, 2009, 03:06:52 PM »

Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on October 31, 2009, 03:05:23 PM

The music is so Diablo

It's the same dude who did the Diablo music.

Bebpo · « **Reply #79 on:** October 31, 2009, 03:28:11 PM »

So has anyone gotten that respec mod to work in the steam version? I'm still early enough in the game that I have no need to change my skills, but would be nice to have some respec potions for later

etiolate · « **Reply #80 on:** October 31, 2009, 03:38:36 PM »

I'm turned off by there being only the three basic tired old classes.

archie4208 · « **Reply #81 on:** October 31, 2009, 03:42:39 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on October 31, 2009, 03:38:36 PM

I'm turned off by there being only the three basic tired old classes.

Well the whole game is just a $20 appetizer before the sweet, sweet Diablo 3 full course (in 2011 :'()

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #82 on:** October 31, 2009, 03:54:57 PM »

Quote from: Edge™ of Kosma on October 31, 2009, 03:47:35 PM

Is he also working on D3?

I doubt it. He works at Runic.

http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1212

Bebpo · « **Reply #83 on:** October 31, 2009, 04:08:59 PM »

The only thing I wish this game had was coop. I haven't played this type of game with friends in a decade and I miss it. Running through the dungeon I can only imagine how great it would be to be doing this with some of my buddies.

I know borderlands is sorta similar in that respect, but none of my friends play fps and have borderlands; but most play rpgs and are playing/have Torchlight.

I know they said there's an MMO version coming next year, but I don't want an MMO; I hate MMOs; I just want 2-4 player coop added

Also, I'm perfectly fine with their being 3 classes since it's $20. I would definitely not mind paying DLC for additional character classes.

PSS. I still don't get the point of the three "trees" under skills. You can even skip tiers, so afaik there really is absolutely no difference between splitting the skills into 3 "trees" and just giving 1 giant tree with all the skills. It's not like you're forced to play as one of 9 different character types. There are 3 character types; end of story.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #84 on:** October 31, 2009, 10:42:58 PM »

People in the GAF thread are saying that Brink is bugged sometimes. You can still continue on and do your quest like normal.

cool breeze · « **Reply #85 on:** November 01, 2009, 12:16:08 AM »

Anyone know if the game continues your progress from the demo if you buy the full game? my character is already kinda awesome and I got a badass sword already.

Bebpo · « **Reply #86 on:** November 01, 2009, 12:37:33 AM »

Quote from: swaggaz on November 01, 2009, 12:16:08 AM

Anyone know if the game continues your progress from the demo if you buy the full game? my character is already kinda awesome and I got a badass sword already.

It does.

Plus you can have multiple characters if you want to make a new one and have your demo character transfer loot to your new character to make the start easier/quicker.

Quote from: ToxicAdam on October 31, 2009, 10:42:58 PM

People in the GAF thread are saying that Brink is bugged sometimes. You can still continue on and do your quest like normal.

In the demo he never followed me and then just appeared at the boss cutscene. When I played with my 2nd character he followed me through the dungeon and killed stuff.

cool breeze · « **Reply #87 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:09:04 AM »

thanks. I'll probably buy it tomorrow morning.

Crushed · « **Reply #88 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:17:43 AM »

Just beat the demo, and wow this is awesome. So easy to manage your inventory and skills, and everything is so smooth and seamless. The pet is a fantastic idea. The "not-Tristram" town music is fantastic.

Only problem is that the visuals are too busy, at least in the demo part. It's kinda hard to tell what some enemies are supposed to look like and when you start swinging it's hard to tell which enemy you're aiming at.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #89 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:22:46 AM »

Quote from: Crushed on November 01, 2009, 01:17:43 AM

Only problem is that the visuals are too busy, at least in the demo part. It's kinda hard to tell what some enemies are supposed to look like and when you start swinging it's hard to tell which enemy you're aiming at.

I had the same issue. But honestly I had the same issue with Diablo 2 although maybe to a lesser degree. It does get kinda busy and hard to track with all the special effects going off even though it looks real neat.

cool breeze · « **Reply #90 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:27:10 AM »

The only thing I don't know, or I haven't found out yet, is how to open both your and your pet inventory with one press. Other than that, it's all good.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #91 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:32:06 AM »

is pressing p, then i in sequence so hard

cool breeze · « **Reply #92 on:** November 01, 2009, 01:34:23 AM »

since I was unaware that P opened pet inventory, uh, yes?

and my Logitech G-something keyboard can come in handy because it has buttons on the side you can bind to key combos.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #93 on:** November 01, 2009, 02:28:03 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on October 31, 2009, 03:28:11 PM

So has anyone gotten that respec mod to work in the steam version? I'm still early enough in the game that I have no need to change my skills, but would be nice to have some respec potions for later

yes, make sure it's in the right folder, and not respec\respec or something like that.

Bebpo · « **Reply #94 on:** November 01, 2009, 05:38:28 PM »

I think all the characters have XP+% skill. My Alchemist does.

But even with using respec if you pump lots of points into that while playing so you level quicker, you lose out on ALL YOUR SKILLS...which at least playing as an alchemist is unthinkable since he is all about spells and summons and that's all skill based.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #95 on:** November 01, 2009, 06:01:55 PM »

All characters have an XP%+ skill around the middle of their tiers. The beserker has a +12% to critical damage and +1% to critical per level halfway down too.

Bebpo · « **Reply #96 on:** November 01, 2009, 06:59:31 PM »

I respec'd and I'm finally getting the hang of playing as a mage character. I'm summoning up an army and I let them go ahead and fight everyone and I just chill back and respawn them + shoot lightning.

Himu · « **Reply #97 on:** November 01, 2009, 07:04:48 PM »

The more I play of the demo, the more I like it.

cool breeze · « **Reply #98 on:** November 01, 2009, 08:20:08 PM »

This game is so damn good.

I just got to the 17th floor with my warrior guy (on hard). I'm pretty much focusing on dual weapons and heavy offense. Between my two pistols and two melee weapons, I just destroy enemies. My dog covers me by both distracting enemies and summoning creatures to help me out. I rush in and beat the shit out of everyone.

Quote from: pilonv1 on November 01, 2009, 06:01:55 PM

All characters have an XP%+ skill around the middle of their tiers. The beserker has a +12% to critical damage and +1% to critical per level halfway down too.

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I want to find that sword.

I did find a staff called "Gold Standard" and thought about taking a picture.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #99 on:** November 01, 2009, 08:57:59 PM »

I've had a Gold Standard before, I believe it's a common item.

I'm on level 21 now and there's fucking bats and dragons and shit that are taking me down quite easily.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #100 on:** November 01, 2009, 09:53:41 PM »

Warrior dude, using the Beserker Tree.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #101 on:** November 02, 2009, 02:39:12 AM »

Damn, my character has hit a wall at level 34. Very slow going and I am running out of money to buy pots.

gasp

archie4208 · « **Reply #102 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:46:57 AM »

The enchanter has a random chance of stripping every augmentation from your item. I have had this happen to me twice.

cool breeze · « **Reply #103 on:** November 02, 2009, 08:55:39 AM »

I read about that. I'm glad I already kicked the habit of enchanting everything I use because it was costing too much.

my biggest concern now is leveling up dexterity to the point where I can use better items without relying on armor that boosts that stat. But the helmet I'm using boosts my dexterity by 16 points and lets me use two awesome pistols that do as much damage as my melee weapons (around 240).

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #104 on:** November 02, 2009, 11:23:30 PM »

Oh man this game runs better for me than Fate did. What the fuck?

The loot. THE LOOT.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #105 on:** November 03, 2009, 12:54:34 AM »

I wish there was an easier way to manage summons. Those little goblins my alchemist summons are so small and hard to keep track of. I wish there was a little indicator that showed the number of summons I have out like in Diablo.

archie4208 · « **Reply #106 on:** November 03, 2009, 09:56:51 AM »

Does anyone know if +Magic find items put on my pet will affect me? I found a +20% magic/gold find necklace, but that is the only stat on it and I don't want to give up my necklace that gives me like +100 elemental damage.

chronovore · « **Reply #107 on:** November 03, 2009, 10:46:50 AM »

Quote from: OptimoPeach on October 31, 2009, 12:52:32 PM

Quote from: Borys on October 31, 2009, 06:47:18 AM
Respeccing is legalized cheating IMO. Diablo games do not allow it.

Respeccing is for whiners who made one build only to discover it kind of sucks and they don't want to start over the whole game from scratch.

respecs
being a man of your build
It's being included in D3, last I heard

If they want to keep it "hardcore" they could offer a special "Blizzard Achievement" (don't they have their own cross-game system) for finishing without respeccing.

ManaByte · « **Reply #108 on:** November 04, 2009, 03:47:24 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #109 on:** November 04, 2009, 06:31:37 PM »

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #110 on:** November 06, 2009, 03:45:42 PM »

Alright, I just beat Ordrak. Now how do I continue? There can't possibly only be 35 floors to this game.

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #111 on:** November 06, 2009, 04:10:13 PM »

Nevermind. Figured out how to continue.

Bebpo · « **Reply #112 on:** November 06, 2009, 04:19:31 PM »

Quote from: BobFromPikeCreek on November 06, 2009, 03:45:42 PM

Alright, I just beat Ordrak. Now how do I continue? There can't possibly only be 35 floors to this game.

The game advertised 36.

Bebpo · « **Reply #113 on:** November 07, 2009, 07:54:41 PM »

Someone said the new patch gimps the enchanting and loot.

I just played a bunch and still got a few good things, but 95% of what I got was weak crap. Then again I think that's how it normally is in these games.

demi · « **Reply #114 on:** November 07, 2009, 07:57:00 PM »

TVC gave me a free copy

Reb · « **Reply #115 on:** November 09, 2009, 11:51:31 AM »

I got this running on the Netbook I took with me to the UK, joy!

Kestastrophe · « **Reply #116 on:** December 22, 2009, 11:13:06 AM »

I started the game last night and I have a few questions:

-How do increase spell ranks? I see that there is a ranking, but there was no explanation as to how to increase it.

-It looks like you can disenchant anything that you enchant, and remove gems from equipment, basically undoing stuff. Is this correct?

anything else I need to know?

archie4208 · « **Reply #117 on:** December 23, 2009, 12:24:33 PM »

1. You have to upgrade the appropriate spell mastery. For example, my summon zombies spell is charm mastery skill, so I have to upgrade that skill for it to rank up.

2. You lose either the gems or item when you disenchant.

Akala · « **Reply #118 on:** December 25, 2009, 10:51:57 AM »

I find myself playing this when I should be doing other things.

hyp · « **Reply #119 on:** December 25, 2009, 11:20:32 AM »

torchlight rocks. are there any plans for it to have a multiplayer mode?

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Author Topic: Why isn't anyone talking about Torchlight? (Read 21508 times)