Author Topic: Aonuma says next Zelda will be different (Read 10586 times)

twerd · « **Reply #120 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:12:20 PM »

TP did it well but it was too expansive for its own good... people look at majora's mask fondly because it was a very small game world and thus seemed packed with things to do. i think the real disappointment in TP was the main city, which was tremendously inactive despite the amount of people there and its relative size.

Himu · « **Reply #121 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:16:50 PM »

For me, it's the hub, Zelda games have towns, and towns aren't included.

I think Majora's Mask has the best one because it's so self contained with little wasted space.

Quote from: twerd on November 20, 2009, 03:12:20 PM

TP did it well but it was too expansive for its own good... people look at majora's mask fondly because it was a very small game world and thus seemed packed with things to do. i think the real disappointment in TP was the main city, which was tremendously inactive despite the amount of people there and its relative size.

There was nothing to do there except turn in bugs and shit.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #122 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:18:11 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on November 20, 2009, 10:57:46 AM

Quote from: Kranz Fafka on November 20, 2009, 01:40:19 AM
There wasn't anything special to do in Zelda 1's overworld either...it was cool because it was there and nobody had seen anything like that in a game before.

I like the 2D zelda overworlds...but in 3D, they are pretty barren and can't escape being compared to games with overworlds that have things to do in them.

2d Zelda is just as barren as 3d Zelda.

LTTP and Minish Cap have decent overworlds. Maybe it's that they're so visually appealing and not as large, whereas 3D Zelda overworlds are about a step away from Desert Bus.

Himu · « **Reply #123 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:18:58 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on November 20, 2009, 02:29:59 PM

When people refer to the overworld, are they referring to just the hubs (both Hyrule fields, and Termina field) or do they mean any area that's not a dungeon? If it's the former, I think TP's really the only one that did it right so far.

What's so great about TP overworld?

Then again, I liked how the game had story bits that were a part of the overworld, like the part where you have to save the kid and face off with the goblin king on the bridge.

twerd · « **Reply #124 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:21:06 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on November 20, 2009, 03:18:58 PM

What's so great about TP overworld?

blow for blow, it has the most shit to do. bug collect, ride that fucking falcon thing, fish, play that stupid ball game, herd goats, snowboard, white water rapids, the dungeon challenges and more stuff that i'm forgetting.

Himu · « **Reply #125 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:22:49 PM »

I stopped doing all of that stuff except fishing, which owned in the wii version.

The labyrinth dungeon was disappointing.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #126 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:23:27 PM »

TP was awesome. I want more of that.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #127 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:24:42 PM »

Actually for me to like a zelda game, all it needs is like more than 4 dungeons and I'll be a happy camper. If Nintendo made a zelda with like 10 meaty dungeons, and Alundra-style puzzles. That would be awesome.

Oh and better items please.

Himu · « **Reply #128 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:24:46 PM »

TP's dungeons made me jizz

Himu · « **Reply #129 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:25:18 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on November 20, 2009, 03:24:42 PM

Actually for me to like a zelda game, all it needs is like more than 4 dungeons and I'll be a happy camper. If Nintendo made a zelda with like 10 meaty dungeons, and Alundra-style puzzles. That would be awesome.

Oh and better items please.

OoT?

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #130 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:32:56 PM »

The soup dungeon was awesome

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #131 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:33:49 PM »

TP's dungeons were fan-fucking-tastic.

Himu · « **Reply #132 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:34:39 PM »

Dungeon 4 is basically best dungeon in the series next to Stone Tower

It actually felt like a dungeon, what with 1000 skeletons trying to rape you at once. Fan-fucking-tastic.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #133 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:34:59 PM »

They should turn Zelda into a lock-on fps.

Oblivion · « **Reply #134 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:41:48 PM »

Arbiter's Grounds

I should play TP again...

Quote from: Himuro on November 20, 2009, 03:18:58 PM

Quote from: Oblivion on November 20, 2009, 02:29:59 PM
When people refer to the overworld, are they referring to just the hubs (both Hyrule fields, and Termina field) or do they mean any area that's not a dungeon? If it's the former, I think TP's really the only one that did it right so far.

What's so great about TP overworld?

Then again, I liked how the game had story bits that were a part of the overworld, like the part where you have to save the kid and face off with the goblin king on the bridge.

Well, there just seemed to be more to do and the landscape was a bit more complex. OoT's sadly didn't have much to do and was just a big circle, MM might have had a few more enemies, but not much to do either.

I didn't have too much fun exploring TP's overworld, but that's for other reasons.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #135 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:43:46 PM »

It's been forever since I played TP can someone remind me what dungeon 4 was?

Oblivion · « **Reply #136 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:44:31 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on November 20, 2009, 03:43:46 PM

It's been forever since I played TP can someone remind me what dungeon 4 was?

Quote from: Oblivion on November 20, 2009, 03:41:48 PM

Arbiter's Grounds

Himu · « **Reply #137 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:55:45 PM »

Quote from: Oblivion on November 20, 2009, 03:41:48 PM

MM might have had a few more enemies, but not much to do either.

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A journal with multiple people and schedules

Himu · « **Reply #138 on:** November 20, 2009, 03:58:35 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on November 20, 2009, 03:43:46 PM

It's been forever since I played TP can someone remind me what dungeon 4 was?

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Oblivion · « **Reply #139 on:** November 20, 2009, 04:07:37 PM »

I was just talking about the field, Himu.

Also, just found out Aonuma's not directing the wii Zelda.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #140 on:** November 20, 2009, 04:39:59 PM »

He wasn't even supposed to be the director for TP but had to step back in because people suck at Nintendo.

I would say give EAD Tokyo a chance to do a Zelda after they finish Galaxy 2, and this current Zelda is done.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #141 on:** November 20, 2009, 05:12:57 PM »

Pretty much. I'd buy a wii just for that zelda game. I really don't know why they don't make this game.

Beezy · « **Reply #142 on:** November 20, 2009, 05:37:34 PM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on November 20, 2009, 04:48:50 PM

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on November 20, 2009, 03:24:42 PM
Actually for me to like a zelda game, all it needs is like more than 4 dungeons and I'll be a happy camper. If Nintendo made a zelda with like 10 meaty dungeons, and Alundra-style puzzles. That would be awesome.

Oh and better items please.

Ten meaty dungeons that make use of all your items instead of just emphasizing the one that you find in that particular dungeon.

I hated that about TP. So many cool items but almost nowhere to use them.

demi · « **Reply #143 on:** November 20, 2009, 06:08:51 PM »

How about a brand new combat engine. Arent we past Z-Locking

Beezy · « **Reply #144 on:** November 20, 2009, 06:29:12 PM »

Quote from: Jinfash on November 20, 2009, 06:17:14 PM

Quote from: demi on November 20, 2009, 06:08:51 PM
How about a brand new combat engine. Arent we past Z-Locking

Motion control support + over the shoulder view-point

Gears of Resident Zelda+

demi · « **Reply #145 on:** November 20, 2009, 06:34:54 PM »

Zelda directed by the DMC4 guy would be just WOW

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #146 on:** November 20, 2009, 07:19:14 PM »

Zelda outsourced to platinum games with Aonuma's help.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #147 on:** November 20, 2009, 07:52:01 PM »

Jansen · « **Reply #148 on:** November 20, 2009, 08:16:32 PM »

i just hope it's significantly better than the abysmal twilight princess

Brehvolution · « **Reply #149 on:** November 20, 2009, 08:20:54 PM »

wii

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #150 on:** November 20, 2009, 08:26:58 PM »

Quote from: Jansen on November 20, 2009, 08:16:32 PM

i just hope it's significantly better than the abysmal twilight princess

bork · « **Reply #151 on:** November 21, 2009, 12:51:13 AM »

Quote from: demi on November 20, 2009, 06:34:54 PM

Zelda directed by the DMC4 guy would be just WOW

They should totally do it. ~~Ninja~~Metroid Gaiden is already coming anyway.

cool breeze · « **Reply #152 on:** November 21, 2009, 01:42:35 AM »

Quote from: Green Shinobi on November 20, 2009, 06:31:55 PM

Zelda May Cry.

Darksiders is basically that, or that's how they're selling it.

demi · « **Reply #153 on:** November 21, 2009, 01:43:44 AM »

Yeah I read comparisons to a Zelda like game thrown around, so I got interested. Put it on GameFly.

bork · « **Reply #154 on:** November 21, 2009, 07:27:58 PM »

I am skeptical about Darksiders because Joe Madureira is the designer.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #155 on:** November 21, 2009, 08:19:03 PM »

Wasn't there a Golden Axe game on the Master System that was basically a Zelda clone?

bork · « **Reply #156 on:** November 21, 2009, 09:02:51 PM »

Quote from: T EXP on November 21, 2009, 08:19:03 PM

Wasn't there a Golden Axe game on the Master System that was basically a Zelda clone?

Yeah, Golden Axe Warrior. Came out on Game Gear in the U.S.

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Don Flamenco · « **Reply #157 on:** November 21, 2009, 09:51:25 PM »

looks pretty good up until that cheap ass boss. I like how the time he beat it, it hardly used the fireballs while other times, it destroyed him with those in a second. I forgot all about randomized boss patterns like that in games. They were so cheap.

demi · « **Reply #158 on:** November 23, 2009, 02:48:56 AM »

Quote

If you play Ocarina of Time nowadays, you notice that it's not that good.

Oblivion · « **Reply #159 on:** November 23, 2009, 03:58:56 AM »

who said that

some pc developer?

demi · « **Reply #160 on:** November 23, 2009, 04:02:15 AM »

Just some nerd called Eiji Aonuma

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #161 on:** November 23, 2009, 04:38:58 AM »

I think he was referring mostly to the technical aspects of the game. It doesn't play as well as the newer ones, it doesn't have as strong an overall design graphically or artistically as the others, etc. And I mean, he's right.

It's still the landmark title in the series that they've yet to surpass, which he openly admits to.

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