FitnessBore - 2018 edition

[Groogrux]

I was just worried because Kiefer left out (or I missed) the section titled: What if I fuck up? 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

groogux next time you go to mcdonalds just dont eat the bun / muffin part and you'll be fine. people have lost weight eating nothing but mcdonalds before (although they dont eat buns or fries or hashbrowns lol)

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Also unless you eat like 1k carbs you won't knock yourself out of ketosis. They just say under 30 to really kick start the ketosis in you, but marks daily apple did a good graph of this that shows you can really go up to 50 to ignite ketosis




but I know how you feel. i've been there. I was there today almost because my mom sliced up the most delicious beautiful pineapple i've ever tasted.

[BlueTsunami]

I agree with Business. Even in low increments keep your intake clean. I personally have been eating hard boiled eggs, cottage cheese, canned tuna, peanuts and a fruit. Dinner is a variable but the amount I take in is dependent on whether I work out that day or not.

[Cormacaroni]

not to add to the dogpile Groogrux, but i don't find it hard to resist food until early afternoon. I'm sure that gets easier after a few weeks but just in case - remember to eat enough in the evenings FOR THE NEXT DAY as well. This is not a calorie-restriction diet. Next time you know you are going on a trip, eat more pig the night before

[Groogrux]

That was a big part of the problem in that I didn't eat a good enough meal last night.

I'm just a slow learner, I guess.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

if im making lets say taco meat, and I use a whole package for a whole package of ground meat, and theres 24 carbs in a whole package, how should I divide it up so when I log my carbs if I have a serving?

[Cormacaroni]

someone else teach him division, i am tired now

[MyNameIsMethodis]

 

[BlueTsunami]

Generally you'd do that by getting an exact ounce amount? (via a kitchen scale of course) But dividing it into half or fourths should get you in the ballpark.

[Cormacaroni]

don't bother Blue, he's already on reddit and SA begging someone else to do it for him

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I don't post about fitness anyweres else but here ^_^ thank you blue

[Cormacaroni]

Been trying carb back-loading and my skin is shrinkwrapping over my muscles. Holy shit.

[BlueTsunami]

it IS

[Cormacaroni]

that was actually supposed to represent approval but now that i have unearthed this vein of insecurity i think we have to mine it a little and ask for pics

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i hope its not illegal shrinkwrapping  #jokesontuesday

[BlueTsunami]

that was actually supposed to represent approval but now that i have unearthed this vein of insecurity i think we have to mine it a little and ask for pics

Nooooo I'm not readdyyyyyy and yeah you poked a soft spot, a soft pudgy spot  :'(

[Cormacaroni]

can i pull your hair next

[BlueTsunami]

 :'(

But in all seriousness I dont' think I've felt this good in my life. When I worked out before diet was an outlier to my approach to fitness. Now, not so much. It feels like everything is in its place, churning to a better me. Get a sense of elation every time I wake up. Gettin' all emotional here.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

just wait till u get laid man youll be attacking the poonanni like ur a virgin who knows how to fuk

[Cormacaroni]

I did a KB workout yesterday, then stuffed myself on lyonnaise potatoes and broiled salmon, then ice cream just before bed. Feels good man

It really does explain a lot about how certain people seemingly eat like fat people but stay ripped all year round. Under the right conditions, it certainly seems doable even without great genetics.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Groogrux,

I do a lot of travelling and time away from the office.  A lot of times I said "fuck it" and stopped at Wendy's.

I recommend these: http://stevesoriginal.com/

Kind of pricey but you could probably make jerky yourself, vacuum seal it, and do the same thing.  I keep a pack or two with me if I feel like straying.  It's damn fine and stopped me from breaking.

Try them or make your own.

[BlueTsunami]

Yeah that just blows my mind. About to eat some roasted potatoes and scrambled eggs before bed.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Groogrux,

I do a lot of travelling and time away from the office.  A lot of times I said "fuck it" and stopped at Wendy's.

I recommend these: http://stevesoriginal.com/

Kind of pricey but you could probably make jerky yourself, vacuum seal it, and do the same thing.  I keep a pack or two with me if I feel like straying.  It's damn fine and stopped me from breaking.

Try them or make your own.

thats a shit load of carbs for jerky 

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i reccomend this jerky; 1 carb per ounce and its god tier

https://www.bigjohnsbeefjerky.com/cart/index.php

[MyNameIsMethodis]

make it less carb intesive please and I will purchase some

[Cormacaroni]

I'm developing my own paleo packs that I will be able to sell you sometime in the third quarter after I take some business classes. Maybe I'll start a Kickstarter, but I'm going to be blatantly ripping off Steve, so maybe not. The morale of this story is I found out how incredibly easy it is to make your own jerky and dry your own fruit and stick it in a bag with some nuts.

The convenience stores here have so many options for this type of thing I find it hard to believe there is a specific niche that needs filling by those things. You can get all kinds of jerky, salami, pepperoni, cheese as well as better protein options like dried squid, salmon jerky etc...all kinds of nuts and fresh fruit too. Never mind the delis and the restaurants....those are just the lowest common denominator, available everywhere options....

[Cormacaroni]

I suppose comparing whatever this will be with convenience store foods is off-base anyway, since it will likely be a long time before you see Steve's Club stuff in 7-11...  Another popular jerky here is venison - i bet the hardcore Paleo crowd would go nuts (har) for that. By all means, go for it - basically nobody in the Paleosphere actually knows how to fucking cook

[BlueTsunami]

I'm training with my father and god bless him, he's got the knowledge, he's got the work ethic, he's very muscular from years of working out in the past (always had a muscular physique as an adult, very skinny teen) but he will not lift a pot or pan to cook something unless its pancakes or boiled eggs.

[Cormacaroni]

I enjoy cooking...i don't do any other sort of manual labor really so it seems to fill a need

[Beezy]

I'm developing my own paleo packs that I will be able to sell you sometime in the third quarter after I take some business classes. Maybe I'll start a Kickstarter, but I'm going to be blatantly ripping off Steve, so maybe not. The morale of this story is I found out how incredibly easy it is to make your own jerky and dry your own fruit and stick it in a bag with some nuts.

I'd bite.

[Cormacaroni]

He just told you it is incredibly easy to MAKE YOUR OWN, what is wrong with you people

[Beezy]

We're Americans.

[Groogrux]

We're Americans.

But really, I'll be getting school/tax refunds soon and I plan on buying myself a decent dehydrator to make jerky with.  I've done it in the oven before but it never turns out quite like I want it to.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Just weighed myself - down 23 pounds since I restarted three weeks ago.  That is the fastest amount of weight loss that I've ever experienced.  A lot of it is probably water weight but still...

Went dairy free, legume free, and my carbohydrate range is from 30-50 grams per day.  My diet:

Breakfast - 4 Omega 3 eggs with chorizo, mushrooms, and jalapeno peppers.  Used coconut oil as well but I'm considering adding ghee to mix things up.

Lunch - Rarely have time for it.  Might eat a Paleo Kit if I'm feeling hungry (which is rare).  On the weekends, I crack open a BPA free can of coconut milk and sip on it throughout the day.

Dinner - Half a pound of grass fed beef, half a pound of chicken, made some guacamole with lots of red onion, garlic, and spinach that I dip the meat in.  I find I have to add more garlic and onion to mask the avocado taste.

[Groogrux]

Benefits and results from the guy who helped create the ACWR and PhotoCalorie about Paleo and Low-Carb dieting:

[Cormacaroni]

T EXP - limes! (or lemon i guess but i much prefer limes...)

i'd think about a carb feed sometime soon too. Preferably at night, and preferably gluten-free. Otherwise your metabolism will just downregulate and become so efficient it will be hard to keep losing fat.

[Groogrux]

That's it, I'm going to re-read the book.  I'm on the forums now and they're talking about stuff I apparently completely overlooked.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Howd you get the validation email to come, I never got mine  :'(

[Groogrux]

I never got a validation email, but I tried signing in today and it just let me in.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

whats the name of the forusm again im too lazy to look

[Cormacaroni]

trannysurprise.com

[MyNameIsMethodis]

that just links back to here 

[Smooth Groove]

Just weighed myself - down 23 pounds since I restarted three weeks ago.  That is the fastest amount of weight loss that I've ever experienced.  A lot of it is probably water weight but still...

Went dairy free, legume free, and my carbohydrate range is from 30-50 grams per day.  My diet:

Breakfast - 4 Omega 3 eggs with chorizo, mushrooms, and jalapeno peppers.  Used coconut oil as well but I'm considering adding ghee to mix things up.

Lunch - Rarely have time for it.  Might eat a Paleo Kit if I'm feeling hungry (which is rare).  On the weekends, I crack open a BPA free can of coconut milk and sip on it throughout the day.

Dinner - Half a pound of grass fed beef, half a pound of chicken, made some guacamole with lots of red onion, garlic, and spinach that I dip the meat in.  I find I have to add more garlic and onion to mask the avocado taste.

How's your strength?

[BlueTsunami]

So does carb back-loading require cycling at some point? I've only just started it like this week but have really minimized carbs for two weeks now. I've also felt the 'Hulk' like effects. I mean, I know what a 'pump' mid-workout feels like, what it normally feels like that is but with carb back-loading my whole body feels like its expanding ridiculously.

[Cormacaroni]

I don't know that it requires it, no. I mean, it is neither fish nor fowl to begin with, being a mish-mash of ultra low carb at some times and ultra high carb at others...it's also protein- and fat-adequate so in theory you could do it indefinitely. It depends on your workouts to an extent though...if you stop working out for extended periods it turns into non-stop ultra low carb which is not something you can do indefinitely without some compromises...but then it sort of morphs into CNS (which doesn't require exercise). If you find it monotonous or hard to stick with for whatever reason, you could just do unmeasured Paleo for a while and see how that goes. If you start getting fat, you can go back to CBL or CNS I guess. I've been doing one or the other for like 4-5 months now, don't see any reason to stop. It's super convenient for me.

I've never had the 'Hulk' effect, although the workouts the day after a backload are almost always good.

[Smooth Groove]

I've been doing this carb back loading for almost a year.  I gained about 30lbs and got much stronger, especially in the upper body.  My six pack was gone but waist only increased by 1.5 inches.  Compared to most bulking results, it's not bad.

The only cycling I did was just eat more when I'm more active and vice versa.  Actually I eat a bunch of carbs even on off days.  It's just on exercise days that I don't eat carbs or fast pre workout.

[Cormacaroni]

There is definitely a fair amount of latitude to eat carbs even on non-workout days, yeah, although it is probably a slippery slope for many people. Just pushing it to the evening has a significant effect vs starting the day with toast and OJ

[BlueTsunami]

Cool! Thanks guys! The concept and execution behind CBL is so damn simple its funny.

[Smooth Groove]

I err on the side of taking more carbs because my activity level is pretty high and I want to recover as fast as possible.  If you're just want to look better, it's probably best to keep carb loading to exercise days or even to just days when you're really training hard. 

[Groogrux]

My third Carb Nite is in progress...

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Howd it go?

[Groogrux]

I'm alive!  I was shocked to see how much my stomach and appetite have shrank.  I bought enough pizza to feed a family of 3 (for just me and my 5-year old) remembering how I used to be able to eat a whole pizza by myself in one night, I also got some ice cream while we were out.

I ate three slices of pizza and had half the cup of ice cream, and I was done.  I tried taking a bite later on and nearly puked.

All that being said, I'm down 20lbs from when I first started the diet.  I've learned a great lesson about my Carb Nites now too; slow and easy from here on out.  My body will no longer let me gorge like I used to and I'm completely okay with that.

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Another thing I learned:  I don't like pork rinds.  They're zero carbs and I thought they would be an okay snack, but it turns out that they're disgusting (I used to like them) and I have a lot of pork rinds now that I guess I'll be sending to my dad.

And I found a new vitamin store (NutriShop) that has a powdered multivitamin with zero carbs that allows for 99.9% absorption vs. the 15% I was getting from my tablets.

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[Edit] And before I forget, I'm back in the gym on a regular basis now.  I'm going 3x a week and working on resistance training with only 5 minutes of cardio for a warmup.  It seems to be helping out a great deal!

[Cormacaroni]

You may be confusing the bloat from gas caused by digestive issues with the gluten with just being full of food. Physically, I have no doubt your stomach is still big enough to handle 3 slices of pizza. I eat like a forest fire but would also get serious bloat from the pizza you ate, to the point of tapping out. As an experiment, try gluten-free carbs next time out - mashed potato or boiled rice.

[Mupepe]

I can still eat 28 pieces of pizza fairly easily. I did it 2 or 3 weeks ago. Yay for buffets

[Dickie Dee]

After both Carb Nights so far my pulse raced all evening

I reeeealllly did not enjoy them like I thought I would

[Groogrux]

Yeah, Kiefer mentioned recently in a blog post to go gluten-free to keep down on bloating.  I'm going to give that a shot this coming Friday.

[Groogrux]

After both Carb Nights so far my pulse raced all evening

I reeeealllly did not enjoy them like I thought I would

Same here!

[Cormacaroni]

This is also from Kiefer but just in case -

If you confirm that you do get bloating, then the bad news is that you are gluten-intolerant (like 50% or so of the population) and would do well to cut it out entirely. CNS is a pretty handy way of testing this really, due to the extended period of ULC that ensures no gluten.

[Dickie Dee]

Weight hasn't entirely been melting off me - but I only weighed myself after my 2nd week so I'm not sure what I've lost. One of my rings keep falling off so I guess that's a good sign, pants are hardly falling off my but do fit better now

I'd been on a diuretic for blood pressure (HCTZ) and I'm not sure how that affected things and the initial shedding of water weight