FitnessBore - 2018 edition

[MyNameIsMethodis]

can happen from too much meat / too low calories but im p sure its the former

[Himu]

I got gout apparently last week lab results just came back

gunna leave carb nite I think, because all I really ate was meat and if thats what caused it then

what in the fuck are you eating? Are you not eating vegetables or I dunno, nuts?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I think it can happen from a lot of things. You better back up your "too much meat" claims with evidence before I FUCKING SCOURGE YOU IN THE NAME OF THE ONE GOD CORMAC

>fine for a year
>changes diet
>gout develops
 i know i shouldnt blame it right away. i'll give it another week or two and see what happens 

[ToxicAdam]

Eating meat doesn't cause gout, but is bad news for people that are genetically predisposed to the condition. Alcohol is bad also.


That's why it's called the disease of  Kings.

Read more here:

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/institute_basic_biomedical_sciences/news_events/articles_and_stories/cysticfibrosis/2010_03_Disease_of_Kings.html

Historically, gout was blamed on an overindulgence in food and alcohol, leading it to sometimes be called the “disease of kings.” But scientists eventually learned that, although certain foods might exacerbate the condition, gout occurs when uric acid (urate) builds up in the blood; crystals of uric acids then accumulate in the joints, triggering inflammation and acute pain. These findings led scientists to suspect that gout might result from a defect in the kidney’s ability to excrete uric acid, a byproduct of the metabolism of the amino acid purine.

Further evidence suggested that some people were genetically prone to gout. So Coresh and his colleagues conducted a large-scale genetics study to search for a gene associated with high blood levels of urate, the signature of gout. Their hunt led them to a gene called ABCG2.

Basically, your body is unable to pump out this uric acid fast enough. So, maybe you need to target foods that are not so heavy in purines.

Purines are found in high concentration in meat and meat products, especially internal organs such as liver and kidney. In general, plant-based diets are low in purines.[5] Examples of high-purine sources include: sweetbreads, anchovies, sardines, liver, beef kidneys, brains, meat extracts (e.g., Oxo, Bovril), herring, mackerel, scallops, game meats, beer (from the yeast) and gravy.

A moderate amount of purine is also contained in beef, pork, poultry, other fish and seafood, asparagus, cauliflower, spinach, mushrooms, green peas, lentils, dried peas, beans, oatmeal, wheat bran, wheat germ, and hawthorn.[6]

Higher levels of meat and seafood consumption are associated with an increased risk of gout, whereas a higher level of consumption of dairy products is associated with a decreased risk. Moderate intake of purine-rich vegetables or protein is not associated with an increased risk of gout

[Eric P]

Basically, your body is unable to pump out this uric acid fast enough. So, maybe you need to target foods that are not so heavy in purines.

yeah, dude stop eating dog food

[MyNameIsMethodis]

no its not. literally every medical condition I had before hand (cellulitis, constantly being sick) disappeared.

whatever. whatever it was it was the most painful thing ever, and im taking medicine for it. ill just have to be careful from now on.

[Himu]

fucking Everybody's Nuts Salt and Pepper flavor has goddamn yeast extract AND sugar? Onion powder? Garlic powder? SUGAR? For fucking salted and peppered pistachios?

[Cormacaroni]

they put sugar in bacon now. nothing is sacred

[Himu]

what the fuck

[Cormacaroni]

Lots of good stuff on Mark Sisson's site about gout - and please let's not bring up literally medieval diagnoses of the root causes, this is the 21st century

[Himu]

Most of those flavored nuts are fried in vegetable or seed oil too.

Wonderful Pistachios apparently have simple ingredients.

http://www.amazon.com/Wonderful-Pistachios-32-Ounce-Bags/dp/B003P7ZMXA

[Cormacaroni]

that's nice.

Don't eat nuts

[Dickie Dee]

Cormac fuckin wit Methodis' humors 

[Himu]

Don't eat nuts

why?

[Fifstar]

Macamias seem to be good, at least I haven't read anything to bad about them. Don't base your daily diet around them, but as a snack once in a while they are okay.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

thank you cormac i am reading up on it now on marks daily apple.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i never really drank much until this past few months, maybe that caused it hmmmm


e; he also said fasting causes it rip

[Cormacaroni]

The more I restrict my diet the worse my reactions to food have been. Decreasing tolerance? Even when I eat something I think should be fine sometimes I get the shits. I don't get it.

yep - you lose the enzymes required to break down the particular poisons over time. This IS a good thing, because it frees up your liver and immune system to do other things than fighting the effects of say, gluten. It is frustrating though, I empathize greatly.

[Cormacaroni]

Don't eat nuts

why?

1) you're fat and you will snack on them all the time and consume a zillion calories
2) nuts and seeds are designed to pass through the system largely undigested and are thus packed with phytates which fuck up your digestion
3) I said so

http://chriskresser.com/another-reason-you-shouldnt-go-nuts-on-nuts

[Himu]

Whew.

Cormac is learnin' me! Feel so good. :

Cormac, speaking of omega-6's

http://healthland.time.com/2013/02/06/omega-6-fats-linked-to-increased-risk-of-heart-disease/

[Cormacaroni]

I doubt that link will be news to anyone much in this thread but by all means, read up

[Cormacaroni]

dude, that cookie i ate laid me OUT for two days. I was basically slumped on the sofa for the whole time. It's intensely annoying but all I can offer is that it is proof that the stuff is not good for you, and that you are better off not having to process it regularly.

If you plan on deploying again any time soon though, you will need to build up a tolerance again. Robb Wolf covered this on a podcast ages back (he does some consulting work with the military now it seems).

[Himu]

I doubt that link will be news to anyone much in this thread but by all means, read up

I know it's not news. I'm not saying it's news. I'm just posting it because it's Time magazine saying stuff you already know and I find it funny because from all my research, it seems to me most mainstream outlets think of living without omega-6's and having a high animal fat diet is without scientific basis and that you're playing with Death.

[Cormacaroni]

Try doing a text search on his podcast page...the podcasts all have topic indexes. I don't recall him giving specifics though.

It's useful info, if it exists. I mean, I plan on going abroad twice this year and it will be hell trying to avoid gluten. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't relapse at this point so building up a tolerance again seems like a good idea. But seriously, I could barely work for 2 days last time...i don't have weeks to spare to just lie around lethargic and miserable while nibbling on bits of bread

[Cormacaroni]

I noticed that I became lactose intolerant after traveling for about seven months in 2011, during which time I rarely had access to dairy products. Probably not a coincidence. I also get bloated a lot more easily than I used to. I might be gluten intolerant as well. I feel shitty when I have anything with grains lately.

It's not a coincidence, because why would your body bother producing lactase if it doesn't need it?

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

What a coincidence, I ate two pieces of garlic bread for lunch and eight hours later, I felt like shit.  I try to avoid everything gluten these days because of a skin condition which surprise, surprise is going away since I eliminated gluten entirely.

[Himu]

You guys ever eat those type of foods and feel a bit breathless afterwords?

[Cormacaroni]

here comes the Hypochondria Train

[nudemacusers]

Are there any good squat alternatives or do I need to stop being a bitch and go to the gym. I have a bench, fwiw. I just don't have space for a dedicated rack. I've tried those steinborn squats but that is just a really awkward movement.

Keep in mind I'm not aiming for powerlifting status.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

here comes the Hypochondria Train

Not really, back in the days when I was 275 pounds or thereabouts, I would have moments where I could hardly breathe after eating a big ass meal.  I suppose it was a warning sign to get my shit together.

[Smooth Groove]

dumbell jump squats are pretty good for training legs

also, use your bench barbell for snatches and cleans, they're even tougher than squats

you can't clean 225 without being able to squat about 300

[Himu]

Yeah, I was just asking about your symptoms.

Sometimes when I'd eat it happens to me. This week I feel great after eating though. It's given me a lot of motivation to keep at it.

[nudemacusers]

dumbell jump squats are pretty good for training legs

I'll look into that. But what about my booty? 

Edit: ill look into all that stuff. Thanks.

I should also mention I do a standard 5x5 and p90x thing, alternating weekly.

[Cormacaroni]

deadlifts are also pretty awesome for legs and glutes

[Cormacaroni]

here comes the Hypochondria Train

Not really, back in the days when I was 275 pounds or thereabouts, I would have moments where I could hardly breathe after eating a big ass meal.  I suppose it was a warning sign to get my shit together.

Sure. Because the fat is literally compressing your internal organs, and when you then pack in food, your lungs will be compressed. Let's not start blaming that on gluten.

[BlueTsunami]

My father confirmed the extremely hot gym rat chick really is checking me out. I don't understand what happening I feel like this



I think it may be because I'm so indifferent to her presence and focused on my workout that she's trying to alley cat ma' shit. But I don't know man. She walked in front of me as I was spotting my father on the bench... that ass is like... oh man. Its fat but fit. My... my concentration is fading.

[nudemacusers]

deadlifts are also pretty awesome for legs and glutes

Will do

[Cormacaroni]

also, how are your air squats

[Smooth Groove]

probably thinking "that dude has bad form"

[Cormacaroni]

Blue - she probably is just waiting for you to take your pussy weights off the bar so she can do a real woman's workout

[BlueTsunami]

probably thinking "that dude has bad form"

I'm just standing around tho'! But I'ma just believe she wants dis' dick

Blue - she probably is just waiting for you to take your pussy weights off the bar so she can do a real woman's workout

Reality bites. She's hardcore though so this is probably the case.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

My father confirmed the extremely hot gym rat chick really is checking me out. I don't understand what happening I feel like this

(Image removed from quote.)

I think it may be because I'm so indifferent to her presence and focused on my workout that she's trying to alley cat ma' shit. But I don't know man. She walked in front of me as I was spotting my father on the bench... that ass is like... oh man. Its fat but fit. My... my concentration is fading.

reminds me of dis

[Silicone Nights]

Hey FitnessBore. I`ve been reading this thread for a while so I thought I`d come out of my cave and get some direct participation going. What would you folks recommend for a stalled overhead press? That shit just aint moving for me.

I guess I should also state upfront that I don`t eat low carb. I`ve been doing intermittent fasting on the leangains method for the last year and things are going pretty well. Feel free to treat me as the gluten eating cretin I am.

[nudemacusers]

also, how are your air squats

I haven't done those in a while, but my form was good when I did. Maybe I'll just add weight to that? Unless that's fucking stupid.

[Cormacaroni]

maybe you could just do some of them and then do some more. if that's not too complicated

oh god all this power has gone to my head hasn't it

[nudemacusers]

maybe you could just do some of them and then do some more. if that's not too complicated

oh god all this power has gone to my head hasn't it

:'(

[Cormacaroni]

I have found the thing more delicious than bacon

[Smooth Groove]

probably thinking "that dude has bad form"

I'm just standing around tho'! But I'ma just believe she wants dis' dick

Blue - she probably is just waiting for you to take your pussy weights off the bar so she can do a real woman's workout

Reality bites. She's hardcore though so this is probably the case.

try it

actually, it's easier to hit on a chick than in most scenarios

it sounds genuine when you praise her for hitting it hard and looking fit

just ask for workout tips to keep the conversation going

[Smooth Groove]

if she turns you down

just go "i bet you can't bench 2 plates"

ultimate gym putdown

[Cormacaroni]

they call him Smooth ladies and gentlemen

[Smooth Groove]

Ha ha, you ever heard the bench stuff I was talking about?

99% of the time male gym members talk about working out, can you bench 2 plates, is the first question asked

makes me wanna bodyslam them and yell, that's power not benching 2 plates

[BlueTsunami]

One dude tried to bench three plates, had one spotter and they both couldn't get it back up after the initial push. Was scary to watch.

[Cormacaroni]

I can eat 5 plates

[Cormacaroni]

i was wondering to myself this morning: How many plates can The Business bench? I bet it's a lot! THEN IT OCCURRED TO ME THAT I COULD JUST ASK

[Smooth Groove]

One dude tried to bench three plates, had one spotter and they both couldn't get it back up after the initial push. Was scary to watch.

so what happened?

they should have gotten some buff dude to keep screaming "it's all you" while getting all red in the face from spotting

[Beezy]

Cormac, remember when those guys were saying silly things in the fitness thread? Haha, good times, man.

[Groogrux]

This thread is becoming more and more EPIC as it goes!

All praise to thee, Father Cormac.   

[Smooth Groove]

Hey FitnessBore. I`ve been reading this thread for a while so I thought I`d come out of my cave and get some direct participation going. What would you folks recommend for a stalled overhead press? That shit just aint moving for me.

what is your routine for shoulders?  1rm max and your weight?

[Cormacaroni]

and can you bench 2 plates

[Himu]

My father confirmed the extremely hot gym rat chick really is checking me out. I don't understand what happening I feel like this

(Image removed from quote.)

I think it may be because I'm so indifferent to her presence and focused on my workout that she's trying to alley cat ma' shit. But I don't know man. She walked in front of me as I was spotting my father on the bench... that ass is like... oh man. Its fat but fit. My... my concentration is fading.

ask her what her name is and ask her out you pussy