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[Bebpo]

So do you guys think at this point Agito and 3rd Birthday would be more relevant to the Western market if they were ported back to mobile phones?   

Eh, I don't think there's a core game market on phones.  The only way Agito & 3rd Birthday could be relevant in western markets is if they ported them to DS2. 

[Himu]

Lightning, Fang and Hope is the best party

That's a terrible party Himuro. 

It's actually a very good one. The commando/medic/saboteur combo in particular is money. You can also make Lightning a medic so you can have two medics in your party, or make Lightning a commando and Fang a commando, or Lightning a ravager and Hope a ravager.

It is easily the most versatile party and is in no way offense based: it covers both sides just fine.

You say that's a terrible party when you use Snow? Snow is terrible.

[Bebpo]

Snow is the best character in the game for combat.  He can put up a guard and block anything, bring up the break gauge, and delivery 9999 damage per hit on broken enemies.

No one should be using lightning after the game opens up at ch.11.  All her stats are average and she is the most balanced but excells at nothing.

[demi]

Bebpo didnt bother with any of the endgame stuff, I bet Lightning is god tier and he doesnt even know it.

[iconoclast]

Once you get Fang's Saboteur skills up, Lightning/Hope/Fang should easily be the best party. All the bases are covered in that group. Hope can buff, damage, and heal, Fang can damage, tank, and debuff, and Lightning can damage and backup heal if you're in a bind. If you use Snow, you'll have to replace either Lightning and perhaps get a small boost in damage but lose an extra medic, or replace Fang and lose a Saboteur. Not worth it imo. Right now my Lightning and Snow are almost equal in Strength, but I'm in ch.11 so maybe he gets stronger.

But I'm still using Vanille because I don't like Hope. In the end it probably doesn't matter much, most group combinations should be able to get through the game just fine. Lightning/Hope/Fang just looks to be the optimal setup.

Oh, and protip: if your controller battery dies in the middle of a fight, the game doesn't pause. On the 360 version at least.

[Bebpo]

There's no reason ever to need 3 healers.  Ever.  1 guard + 2 healers is good enough for anything.
Buffing haste & elements is the most important thing to any fight imo.  Having Sahz haste everyone and throw the element that enemies are weak against onto your weapons means you are doing about 3-5x damage within the first atb bar.  I have snow do area blast and it should 1 hit kill all the enemies in range.

At endgame hope & sahz aren't BOTH necessary because their buffs skills overlap.  But until hope learns haste and stuff, both are essential imo.

Bebpo didnt bother with any of the endgame stuff, I bet Lightning is god tier and he doesnt even know it.

wat.  I did the majority of the hunts =P  I played the game for 60 hours!

I'm pretty sure lightning is not that great.  I think people just use her because they like her character and her running animation.
But you can beat anything with any character, so w/e

[Rman]

Lighting/Hope/Sazh have been the best party if you just use their primary jobs.  Hope and Sazh have amazing buffs that make the game so easy.  Plus all us of them are native Ravs, so stagger aways and then pummel away with Com/Rav/Rav.

[iconoclast]

Just started chapter 12 

Is there any way to go back and do the hunts from Chapter 11, or do I have to wait until I finish the game?

[Third]

Why does Vanille run like a distinguished effete fellow?
Sazh runs as if he has diarrhea and has to go to the toilet.
I really hate playing as them.

[dark1x]

Too bad the Triple isn't compatible with VGA monitors. Supporting more resolutions: That's The 360 Difference^TM.

That would only be necessary if you were still using an old monitor.  Any monitor in the last 5 or 6 years can support the PS3.  All you need is a DVI input and you're good to go.  Beats VGA, for certain.

[Himu]

bebpo owned.

[tiesto]

Too bad there haven't been any real Phantasy Star games since PSIV.  I'd really love to have a real new single-player PS game at some point...

Never gonna happen, sales wise, the most successful PS games ever are the portable Phantasy Star Online games for PSP  :'(  :'( :'(

[Mupepe]

I'm running through the crystal place towards the beginning now.  I just got our job and magic system or whatever.  Game is pretty fun.  But fuck it's easy

Auto Battle
Auto Battle
Auto Battle

The game pretty much makes you rely on it.  The battle is so slow otherwise you can tell you were pretty much never meant to choose your own attacks.

[maxy]

I think you need to be 15-20 hours in,not sure what chapter is that.

[iconoclast]

Auto battle works well with the Commando class since it's pretty limited. Once you start primarily using Ravager you'll have more options and auto battle tends to suck. Now I'm only using auto when I ATB cancel into medic when I need to heal ASAP or if I just want to attack an enemy that's near death. Otherwise I find it to be pretty inefficient. They should have done more with the Commando though since it's all you're really using for the start of the game.

So when am I allowed to chose my own party members?

Sorry for the stupid question.

Toward the end of chapter

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9

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[Himu]

Thanks, that's a fair bit away for me. I'm still in Chapter 3.

Good luck

[ManaByte]

Getting this today or tomorrow. First FF I'll actually sit and spend more than an hour with since FFXI. I didn't care much for the PS2 installments.

[Himu]

How is it possible to not care for the ps2 installments when you didn't sit with them for more than hour?

[ManaByte]

Well I played FFX for a while actually. Never even opened FFX-2 and the character design of the main character in FFXII bugged me too much.

[ManaByte]

Got the last 360 copy Gamestop :puke had. They had PS3 copies left and I asked which they sold more of and they said 360 by far.

March NPD could be an epic meltdown.

[maxy]

Got the last 360 copy Gamestop :puke had. They had PS3 copies left and I asked which they sold more of and they said 360 by far.

March NPD could be an epic meltdown.

It wouldn't surprise me...

UK sales where pretty close...45% PS3 ,43% 360...standard edition
9% PS3,4% 360...special edition

What do i think about that?
 

[Himu]

Whats with the slight change of your avatar Himu?

Face on the right side of avatar is more visually pleasing than right in the center.

[Third]

Got the last 360 copy Gamestop :puke had. They had PS3 copies left and I asked which they sold more of and they said 360 by far.

March NPD could be an epic meltdown.

yeah, your gamestop represents the whole country

[ManaByte]

Only an hour in and I already want to kill Vanille.

[Third]

Lol at the gatling gun attack. That was so cheap 

[Mupepe]

How long between chapter 3 and chapter 5 do you think?  A couple of hours?  I heard it starts to get pretty good at Chapter 5.  it's entertaining now, but nothing spectacular.  and way too easy.

[Himu]

chapter 5 sucks.

[demi]

Played all night up to Chapter 7 (where you sneak into the sewers). Wanted to keep going! This game isnt even that boring to me. It feels so refreshing. I've played a ton of RPGs, both HD or otherwise. This game is just a fresh coat of paint to me.

[Himu]

Tonight I plan on getting to chapter 11. Now that  I can change my party I'm sure things will be getting 

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm still on chapter four, I haven't had much time to play.

[Third]

I'm in chapter 8 and loving the game so far.
The production values are crazy. I'm a sucker for great production values. Everything looks so amazing.
The music is getting better. But I hate it when there are vocals in a track. Sounds so j-pop. And I HATE j-pop.
But yeah, game is pretty good.

[demi]

The sunrise valley track is uguu~ and it feels so good.

[OptimoPeach]

Wow, that was awful. I thought Third was just PMSing about the soundtrack until he said there are vocals

[demi]

I want to be tenderly fucked with hands on my hips to this song

[Third]

I kid you not. I've played that part of the game with the music on mute.

[demi]

I kid you not. I left the music on and immediately fapped to some porn with it in the background

[Bebpo]

Those vocal tracks remind me of P3/P4 in a good way.

[demi]

Wow, that was awful. I thought Third was just PMSing about the soundtrack until he said there are vocals

The final boss has opera vocals. Why is this any diff? Cause its upbeat? Closet homo. Come out now.

[OptimoPeach]

Cliched orchestral piece > gooey gay-pop (get it? j-pop -> gay-pop LOL)

[Stoney Mason]

I'm in chapter 11 now. It's sort of a microcosm of everything good and bad in FF13. It doesn't improve on anything core. The story is still mostly lame. And it's no more interesting or diverse in a sense in its gameplay mechanics and its just as repetitive as the rest of the game. But by whittling everything down to "Go Kill this Boss" it takes the best aspect of the game and focuses it on that which is the combat system and fighting bosses.

How many missions are there in Chapter 11 for those that have beat the game?

[Bebpo]

I'm in chapter 11 now. It's sort of a microcosm of everything good and bad in FF13. It doesn't improve on anything core. The story is still mostly lame. And it's no more interesting or diverse in a sense in its gameplay mechanics and its just as repetitive as the rest of the game. But by whittling everything down to "Go Kill this Boss" it takes the best aspect of the game and focuses it on that which is the combat system and fighting bosses.

How many missions are there in Chapter 11 for those that have beat the game?

64, but the last 20 are in a sub-scenario thing you unlock after you do certain missions.  It's a branching boss rush mode for those 20.

[Lucretius]

the character design of the main character in FFXII bugged me too much.

wait a minute... FF XII had a main character?

[Lucretius]

The sunrise valley track is uguu~ and it feels so good.

That's my favorite track so far too.

[demi]

Can you imagine of this remix was included? Like near the final boss or something? I would whip out my cock and jack it right there

[youtube=560,345]jmyIcz7vLTw[/youtube]

edit: With a little tweaking to the song of course.

[Himu]

Being able to choose party members feels soooo good

[Rman]

So the only side quests are the hunts?

[Himu]

Appears so.

[Rman]

Lame.

[ManaByte]

Chapter 2 now.

Do your characters even level up in this one?

[Himu]

The boss of chapter 9 is easy until he casts the Destrudo or whatever spell. Honestly, the fight is easy, it's just a really lonnnng fight and I honestly don't feel like spending 10-20 minutes fighting him again. I'm sure Sentinel can make Destrudo not matter much, though. I'd control Fang or something to cast Steelguard but alas, you can't change the party leader.

[Himu]

Chapter 2 now.

Do your characters even level up in this one?

You have a grid like in ff10

[Stoney Mason]

Chapter 11 is not traditional FF, it's the opposite side of the spectrum that FFXIII is.  Instead of being too linear, it's too open and unstructured.

sigh.

And it turns out you were correct. The "open" area is poorly designed. This game is such a miss in so many areas.

[Smooth Groove]

Too bad the Triple isn't compatible with VGA monitors. Supporting more resolutions: That's The 360 Difference^TM.

That would only be necessary if you were still using an old monitor.  Any monitor in the last 5 or 6 years can support the PS3.  All you need is a DVI input and you're good to go.  Beats VGA, for certain.

Not true.  The monitors have to be HDCP compatible, which many monitors older than 2-3 yrs aren't.  Also, PS3 only supports 1280x720 or 1920x1080, which screws things up for most monitors that aren't also designed to be used as TVs.   OTOH, the 360 supports many other resolutions in addition to 720P and 1080P.  

I know it pains you but it's another victory for the 360's superior hardware.  

[Lucretius]

ha... I just got to a place in Chapter 9 where the hallway forks in two different directions and Sazh says, "Why they always gotta make these things more complicated than they need to be?"

[Himu]

Beat chapter 9.

[cool breeze]

The sunrise valley track is uguu~ and it feels so good.

is this that leona luise track?

[Mr. Gundam]

The sunrise valley track is uguu~ and it feels so good.

is this that leona luise track?

Nope.

[cool breeze]

I thought they took out the j-poppy stuff for the western version.  why do I think I read that somewhere then.

[Lucretius]

Beat chapter 9.

I'm at...

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a giant room with big circle paths filled with enemies.  With Lighting, Fang, and Hope.  Shortly after Sazh and Vanille escape.  Am I almost done with Chapter 9?  Should I grind in this room?

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?

[Rman]

You're talking about the title song.  It was replaced by Leona Lewis's song.