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Nintex

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27720 on: April 24, 2021, 06:39:44 AM »


Jaffe compares a bunch of streaming services.
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« Reply #27721 on: April 24, 2021, 11:24:03 AM »


A Cotton 2, Cotton Boomerang, and Guardian Force collection got announced for PS4 and Switch!
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« Reply #27722 on: April 24, 2021, 11:39:01 AM »
Moleyneux is crazy af haha but I love most of his games

It's been well over a decade since he made anything of value, though.

I thought he quit gaming development?

He's being smart and keeping a low profile. Not just because of the general vitriol towards him for his games and lies. If people think the stories about CDPR or Naugthy Dogs work environment are bad, then they wouldnt believe what happened at that cunts studios. Well I doubt Schreier can bother, Molyneux isnt really big news anymore unlike the other two devs. But fuck me, Molyneux is a cunt, and it's one of the main factors in him failing time and time again. All the people he had close to him, who could have a vision and make it become a game are long gone, and now it's just him, and whatever desperate people straight out of university he can hire now.

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« Reply #27723 on: April 24, 2021, 11:47:32 AM »
Someone (i think it was eurogamer) did a big expose post godus talking about lionhead and his shennaigans, thats when he went off radar iirc.
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« Reply #27724 on: April 24, 2021, 11:54:40 AM »
Someone (i think it was eurogamer) did a big expose post godus talking about lionhead and his shennaigans, thats when he went off radar iirc.

Would love to read this if anyone finds it.

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« Reply #27725 on: April 24, 2021, 12:03:07 PM »
Someone (i think it was eurogamer) did a big expose post godus talking about lionhead and his shennaigans, thats when he went off radar iirc.

Would love to read this if anyone finds it.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-05-12-lionhead-the-inside-story

It's a long but great read. But doesnt really tell the story of how he would belittle people in front of everyone at meetings, or the press and so on. When I was fucking 16, I went to Lionhead and had Molyneux belittle/make fun quite harshly of his fucking assistant, right in front of me. She just simply said he couldn't show us something (early milo prototypes, before kinect was a thing) and he went off. Was extremely awkward, and it almost felt like he did it just so he could show me and the few others there, how he controlled the show. Extremely cunty behaviour.

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« Reply #27726 on: April 24, 2021, 12:50:57 PM »
Too many Steve Job types and not enough Tim Cook types.

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« Reply #27727 on: April 24, 2021, 01:08:35 PM »
Also thanks for that article! :)

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Webley had named his hamster Lionhead because of its huge neck and because it looked a bit like a chap who used to pop up at the local pub who had "ridiculous" blonde curly hair. Molyneux's then girlfriend suggested Lionhead as the name for the studio. It stuck. "As soon as we called the company Lionhead, my hamster died," Webley says. "It was a death wish."

Damn. :lol :'(

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« Reply #27728 on: April 24, 2021, 03:52:43 PM »


:lol :lol :lol What a metaphor.

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« Reply #27729 on: April 24, 2021, 04:05:12 PM »
This is what happens Larry, this is what happens when you cross the line sign with Microsoft
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« Reply #27731 on: April 24, 2021, 07:41:59 PM »
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« Reply #27732 on: April 24, 2021, 10:20:59 PM »
https://www.polygon.com/22358945/wii-fit-nintendo-health-ring-fit-adventure
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For some, Wii Fit’s legacy is body shame

Years later, many reflect on how Wii Fit impacted their body image

Nintendo wants to make exercise easy and fun. At least, that’s the message the company tries to broadcast through health-conscientious developments like step counters and memory games. The Wii, which got people off the couch and moving, was the perfect encapsulation of that ongoing concern with wellness. And Wii Fit, a video game ostensibly about health, was a logical progression of Nintendo’s fitness games. But sometimes, good intentions aren’t enough.

[Content warning: The following story contains discussions of eating disorders.]

Even now, in 2021, Wii Fit players are still dealing with the consequences of a Nintendo game that harmed their self-esteem back when they were children. Tinisha Osu, a 21-year-old student, told Polygon over Instagram messages that she was only 8 when Wii Fit made her feel ashamed of her weight.

“It caused me to want to hide things from my friends out of fear of judgment, which has stuck with me almost 14 years later,” she said. Based on dozens of testimonials on TikTok that were reviewed by Polygon, she’s not alone in that.
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Part of the issue is that Wii Fit would display those body test results every single time you logged into the game. Worse, if you happened to share your Wii with anyone, they’d be able to see those BMI numbers — unless you decided to password lock your account, thereby hiding your Wii Fit profile from view. But if you wanted to play with friends, this could lead to added stress over the label and its public perception.

As one video on TikTok put it, “I was so worried that my parents would find out it thought I was overweight, I password protected it.” Appropriately, the video caption reads, “Wii Fit traumatized everyone.” The video has roughly 325,000 views with the comment section filled with responses like, “this was def the start of my body dysmorphia” and “ME TOO OMG.”
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That danger is reflected in testimonies from Osu and others online. “When friends would come round to play, I would tell them that the Wii Fit board was broken because I didn’t want them to see what it said,” Osu told Polygon.

Christopher Sharratt, a 21-year-old who first played Wii Fit with his two siblings, told Polygon that initially, he was excited to play. But once his profile was set up, the game then informed him that he was “underweight,” a prognosis that came with a sad-looking character, Sharratt said over Instagram. It made him feel like he was “the odd one out.” From then on, he became concerned about his weight.

Although Wii Fit came and went as many fads do, the emotional consequences of the game stuck with Osu. Three years later, she developed an eating disorder that she still struggles with to this day. She often gets comments about how she eats, she told Polygon, a direct result of being self-conscious while eating in public.

“I do think that the Wii Fit was the start to this,” Osu said.

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Don Rumata

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27733 on: April 25, 2021, 09:08:47 AM »
Makes sense, especially when you're young, you take some of that shit the wrong way and it can fuck you up.


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« Reply #27734 on: April 25, 2021, 09:43:49 AM »
Nobody tell them scales exist.

Don Rumata

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« Reply #27735 on: April 25, 2021, 10:15:15 AM »
Nobody tell them scales exist.
A scale is something you do in the privacy of your bathroom in absolute isolation! :ufup

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« Reply #27736 on: April 25, 2021, 10:35:33 AM »
On reflection, that was insensitive and I apologize.

If they did it today, they should ask a player's age up front, and if they're <18 or <13 only offer the minigames (without weight tracking.) For players above that, remove any positive or negative signage/connotations from being over- or underweight. Allow users to set a target (manually), and get them to work towards that.

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« Reply #27737 on: April 25, 2021, 10:56:36 AM »
What an awful article.

Here's some anecdotes from people that sound like complete mental cases. Where were the parents in any of this shit?

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27738 on: April 25, 2021, 11:17:06 AM »
Buying ds games from japan and reselling them for 25 euros profit 😍
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Don Rumata

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« Reply #27739 on: April 25, 2021, 11:20:27 AM »
On reflection, that was insensitive and I apologize.

If they did it today, they should ask a player's age up front, and if they're <18 or <13 only offer the minigames (without weight tracking.) For players above that, remove any positive or negative signage/connotations from being over- or underweight. Allow users to set a target (manually), and get them to work towards that.
Nah i was kidding, but i see how that could affect someone young, in wrong circle of friends and family.
The article though is kind of overly dramatic, as per usual.

In my opinion the idea of shaming usually leads to worse circumstances, and positive reinforcement tends to work better.
In the case of weightloss, for example, seeing an inspirational story of someone losing a bunch of weight, works better than being called a fat cow.
But that doesn't mean accepting harmful "fat acceptance" movements, of course.

I think in general it goes for most things, from exercise to acquiring a skill and studying it, seeing the positive benefit of the work put in, works better than the fear of social shame, which can just lead to a form of anxious paralysis (and regression).

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« Reply #27740 on: April 25, 2021, 12:23:30 PM »
What an awful article.

Here's some anecdotes from people that sound like complete mental cases. Where were the parents in any of this shit?

The topic notwithstanding, it’s a polygon article.  Expect nothing but terribly sourced and researched lunacy from that place.

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« Reply #27741 on: April 25, 2021, 03:17:22 PM »
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Based on dozens of testimonials on TikTok that were reviewed by Polygon

Hard hitting investigative journalism son

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This is like saying Iraqi's were traumatized by Call of Duty while the Iraq war was going on.
Fact is they would've been ashamed of or bullied because of their obesity or developed eating disorders even without Wii Fit.
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« Reply #27742 on: April 25, 2021, 06:21:59 PM »
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Based on dozens of testimonials on TikTok that were reviewed by Polygon

Hard hitting investigative journalism son

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This is like saying Iraqi's were traumatized by Call of Duty while the Iraq war was going on.
Fact is they would've been ashamed of or bullied because of their obesity or developed eating disorders even without Wii Fit.

Very likely, doesn't mean you can't take it into consideration when developing the app.
Wii Fit is that, more than a narrative/artistic product after all, and the psychological component is extremely crucial in the success rate of a diet/life style change.

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« Reply #27743 on: April 25, 2021, 07:52:33 PM »
I dunno, I feel like that's saying millions of kids gave up their music carreer because they didn't make it to expert on Guitar Hero.
Never got Wii Fit myself but I recall trying a demo at Nintendo and I never got the feeling the software was judgemental or anything like that.
It promotes a 'healthy' lifestyle much like those fitbits, health apps etc. do and even if you fucking suck it encourages you and says you did a great job.

She was 8 - 10 when playing it, the age most kids start to become aware of who they are in society and group dynamics and things like bullying come into play.
Their brain probably looks for a pattern or habit that 'explains' whatever trauma they developed and it zoned in on Wii Fit because they used it a lot and it strings together a bunch of incomplete memories.

It is usually with these "aha" moments that people don't quite remember what the "aha" was and the brain has simply stored a pattern to 'save' an important piece of information or memory.
With things like bullying and abuse it is never this 'one off' that is recalled but always the systematically repeated events.
That goes for positive things too. You don't remember that one amazing Turkey that your grandma prepared for Christmas but you do remember the soup she made for lunch every week and what it smelled like.
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27744 on: April 25, 2021, 10:18:25 PM »
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benjipwns

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27745 on: April 26, 2021, 05:27:48 PM »


-GameFan, 1993

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« Reply #27746 on: April 26, 2021, 05:36:25 PM »
where's are's?!
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« Reply #27747 on: April 26, 2021, 05:49:35 PM »
Silpheed for Sega CD was one of the most disappointing Sega CD games.  :fbm   Like an idiot, I overhyped myself thinking that the pre-renderred backgrounds were going to be real 3D models.  :doge

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27748 on: April 26, 2021, 06:25:32 PM »
GameFan went crazy for it:


I remember them also going crazy for Microcosm and some other of those shooters where it was just a sprite superimposed over FMV or CGI backgrounds. :lol
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Nintex

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« Reply #27749 on: April 26, 2021, 07:30:45 PM »
Just read that the Oscars had < 10 million viewers.
Game Awards had 80+ million viewers.

We did it gamers. We won. :success
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27750 on: April 26, 2021, 07:38:08 PM »
Just read that the Oscars had < 10 million viewers.
Game Awards had 80+ million viewers.

We did it gamers. We won. :success

All the real movie buffs were watching this.

https://mobile.twitter.com/greggturkington/status/1386360533020860419

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27751 on: April 26, 2021, 08:44:37 PM »
Keighley :jeanluc

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« Reply #27752 on: April 26, 2021, 09:35:43 PM »
Silpheed for Sega CD was one of the most disappointing Sega CD games.  :fbm   Like an idiot, I overhyped myself thinking that the pre-renderred backgrounds were going to be real 3D models.  :doge

I had the original on Apple IIgs.



Released in 1988 and looked impressive as hell for the time.  I remember being so disappointed when I played the Sega CD version years later.  :lol
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27753 on: April 26, 2021, 09:41:34 PM »
It looks and runs better on the PC-88.  This is some good shit for 1986.



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« Reply #27754 on: April 26, 2021, 10:01:59 PM »
Just read that the Oscars had < 10 million viewers.
Game Awards had 80+ million viewers.

We did it gamers. We won. :success

That's actually amazing. :lol Both numbers.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27755 on: April 26, 2021, 11:42:10 PM »
and some other of those shooters where it was just a sprite superimposed over FMV or CGI backgrounds. :lol

Was it Chaos Control?

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27756 on: April 26, 2021, 11:52:58 PM »
Psygnosis had a bunch of them that was just like it:


The boss thing at the 5 minute mark is pretty wow much 90s CGI :doge

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27757 on: April 27, 2021, 03:32:35 PM »


Gaming Journalism in the Clinton Years :rejoice

"Incredible polygons and intense voice! 10/10"
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« Reply #27758 on: April 27, 2021, 04:06:44 PM »
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Gaming Journalism in the Clinton Years :rejoice

"Incredible polygons and intense voice! 10/10"
And I fell for it hard.   :stahp  I believed everything Dave Halverson or Nick Rox spewed out in that mag.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27759 on: April 27, 2021, 04:17:56 PM »
Don't feel bad, they tricked me into buying Quest 64.  :'(



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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27760 on: April 27, 2021, 04:26:49 PM »
Was it better than Zelda?

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27761 on: April 27, 2021, 11:09:04 PM »

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« Reply #27762 on: April 28, 2021, 12:40:07 AM »


Could be cool, but the idea of choosing rewind is less interesting to me than having the turnstiles limiting access to the ability.

Don Rumata

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« Reply #27763 on: April 28, 2021, 06:51:46 AM »

Visuals look incredible, and i'm loving the music too.
I'm not really sold on the voice acting, tho.

I wish they had limited the animations' framerate to simulate stop motion (while keeping the game's framerate smooth).

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27764 on: April 28, 2021, 09:30:48 AM »
Bought an oculus quest 2. Easy to setup away from my pc, which is what has been keeping me from getting into VR again, as I currently dont have the room for it really. Cant wait to play some weird ass vr games again

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« Reply #27765 on: April 28, 2021, 09:33:46 AM »
Bought an oculus quest 2. Easy to setup away from my pc, which is what has been keeping me from getting into VR again, as I currently dont have the room for it really. Cant wait to play some weird ass vr games again

How does it work? If you have an RTX card, can you still hook it up to your PC?

Does wireless work with an RTX providing extra power or is that not possible (only wired?)

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27766 on: April 28, 2021, 10:03:21 AM »
Beetle/Mednafen via RetroArch has been holding me down for a while but I'm not gonna lie, Duckstation may have snatched the crown for Android platforms. The performance is too good, even on my underpowered Shield TV.

Cranking R4 all the way up to 5x GPU resolution with 4X MSAA and PGXP enabled running at full speed  :whoo

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27767 on: April 28, 2021, 10:04:12 AM »
I've been actually reading through some old Gamefans lately too. Its funny how obsessed they were with scaling in 1993.
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« Reply #27768 on: April 28, 2021, 10:19:08 AM »
And the SCROLLS, look at how many LINE SCROLLS this game has. Wow! Such programming!

Dave would hand out 95+s to any platformer with at least four line scrolls.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27769 on: April 28, 2021, 11:43:50 AM »
There was also this Great Moment in Game Journalism History brought to us by GameFan:




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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27770 on: April 28, 2021, 11:51:20 AM »
Th e sound track don't suck neither, wow!
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« Reply #27771 on: April 28, 2021, 11:57:26 AM »
Found this ramble from Dave looking for those apology images:

Quote from: Dave Halverson
Nowadays, Rap, which echo's pain and suffering or just plain nonsense is the big thing and the big hit's at the box office are films where sickening is passe' and human life, worthless.
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27772 on: April 28, 2021, 12:00:08 PM »
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« Reply #27773 on: April 28, 2021, 12:00:43 PM »
I played Power Rangers the Movie on Genesis instead of Earthworm Jim. Dave was right!

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« Reply #27774 on: April 28, 2021, 12:04:52 PM »
Huge missed opportunity for Sega not to release Pulp Fiction for the Sega CD.
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27775 on: April 28, 2021, 12:45:04 PM »


damn this looks good. Quite a jump.

Bought an oculus quest 2. Easy to setup away from my pc, which is what has been keeping me from getting into VR again, as I currently dont have the room for it really. Cant wait to play some weird ass vr games again

How does it work? If you have an RTX card, can you still hook it up to your PC?

Does wireless work with an RTX providing extra power or is that not possible (only wired?)

Yeah you can connect it through usb-c and it works fine wired. But if you got a 5ghz router, you can also run it through that just fine.

Fuck me this head strap sucks though. Now I understand why there is a 100 different oculus head straps on the market. Other than that, my impressions are very good so far. Despite the facebook shit.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27776 on: April 28, 2021, 07:05:23 PM »

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« Reply #27777 on: April 29, 2021, 11:14:33 AM »
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #27778 on: April 29, 2021, 12:05:54 PM »
"With shades of Northstar's Hellfire..." Assholes.

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« Reply #27779 on: April 29, 2021, 12:06:24 PM »
Returnal already at 86/100 on Metacrtitic.

Returnal 86
Nier 84
Pokemon Snap 80

That's pretty damn good so far
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