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« Reply #7440 on: December 05, 2011, 03:42:15 PM »

"fighting game community discussion" aka "how I wish the east coast commentators weren't so black because it intimidates me."  am i right or what?   Usually conveyed like "they're all trying to talk like gangsters derp"

Problem is more that some of them are very poor at commentating and when they try to go the 'hype' route (aka regurgitate yipes' stuff) it sounds forced and off-putting. I think D'nyce is a funny dude, especially when he has spooky's stream chat in his face to egg him on, but the dude can't commentate for shit. Neither can Ski or Tom Brady or half of the other chucklefucks spooky lets on. But what's there to do about it? you can't lock down the few capable people next to spooky and force them to talk through a 48h event. I do wish someone like Ski, who has at least a modicum of understanding of the games and is steadfast in his involvement in the scene, would go back and listen to himself and take some constructive criticism because he seems to really enjoy commentating and it would be nice if he was enjoyable too.


I hate this sudden expectation of professionalism though.  These events are long as hell and not every match is worth commentating on, so the comic relief is nice, even when it seems a bit overdone.  Skisonic gets too hype sometimes, but he has a nice mix of hype and insight, in my opinion.  He's definitely more of a SF guy than MVC guy.  People forget these guys are fans first and not pro commentators and it's not their job..sp00ky just gets some of his friends on there, which has worked out fine, viewer counts keep growing.  Ideally, sp00ky's pals would take themselves a *bit* more seriously and study up so they can do color and play-by-play equally well, but for now, they're just doing what they always did and the criticism grows because the scene is growing, but it doesn't make the criticism correct. 

The other misconception is that they do "yipes stuff."  People have always given weird names for things in fighting games or have their own goofy reactions, it's just that Yipes is pretty damn good at it (Telemundo Yipes is particularly amazing.)  But even then, I see people in the GAF threads and in the streams bashing Yipes himself!  If the future of stream monsters are people who don't understand the humor or the history, i'll just continue clicking off the chat and start hoping the commentators do the same.  It's already a sea of shit.  It's always annoying when spooky responds to like one random troll who is bitching. 
 
So, night 1 of NEC, making bets on stream, the hype boiling over, nobody giving a shit about being professional MLG, it was easily the best part--moments like that won't happen in MLG Presents: Team Mr. Victor "Spookington" Font Streaming Gentlemen's Digital Fisticuffs brought to you by Capcom.  They'll censor it and start making their stream runners give a shit about what viewers think, which is the last thing I want.  FGC is still pretty pure, which is something I appreciate a lot. 
 
I do like the guys who keep it semi-pro like Ultra David and James Chen, but I like how I can expect that on West Coast and how I can sometimes get that or the down n' dirty shit on the East Coast.  Just seems like people get intimidated when NYC gets real, which is nothing new, even outside the FGC :lol  but like nyc, you (generic you, not you you) just kinda have to get over yourself and accept those dudes' fighting scene culture because the streams are just an extension of that. 

Maybe some new blood will step up the professionalism in their own way, but I think it has to come from the people actually in the local scenes, instead of stream monster and at-home viewer criticism. 


edit: but all this is besides the point until capcom nerfs wesker

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« Reply #7441 on: December 05, 2011, 03:56:05 PM »
I agree people whine a little too much, and they go about it in nonconstructive ways which makes it easy to ignore. I like spooky's chat because it's unhinged and I appreciate that the commentators that I do like shoot straight. "professionalism" isn't really something to aspire towards in regards to language or bias or whatever, I would just like it if those who enjoy commentating, like ski and ultradavid for instance, would be conscious of things they could do better and aspire towards that.

Ultimately it doesn't matter very much. the crowd is usually loud as fuck once something pops off and commentators usually do well enough with the play-by-play to let people in on what's safe/unsafe, calling out frame traps, unblockables, etc.


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« Reply #7442 on: December 05, 2011, 04:06:30 PM »
^ Hasn't played a real shooter.

Looks like I'm not alone either: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32670

Well shit taste is contagious...

So.. Super Star Soldier, Gradius, R-Type, Raiden and Ikaruga not real shooters now?

Well, it should be obvious why all of those games are much better than some euroshmup. To be honest I'm not even sure why Raptor is being compared to them, since it was clearly designed for home platforms. Compared to an arcade game (or a home game designed like an arcade game), they're really nothing alike.

Maybe I'll take Raptor more seriously when I can find a superplay DVD and some world records for it.  That'll at least show that some people think it's worth playing.
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« Reply #7443 on: December 05, 2011, 04:59:30 PM »
Just saw that Sine Mora is going to be 80-90 minutes long :yuck

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http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/raptor_call_of_the_shadows_2010_edition#s_0

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« Reply #7444 on: December 05, 2011, 06:47:58 PM »
^ Hasn't played a real shooter.

Looks like I'm not alone either: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32670

Well shit taste is contagious...

So.. Super Star Soldier, Gradius, R-Type, Raiden and Ikaruga not real shooters now?

Well, it should be obvious why all of those games are much better than some euroshmup. To be honest I'm not even sure why Raptor is being compared to them, since it was clearly designed for home platforms. Compared to an arcade game (or a home game designed like an arcade game), they're really nothing alike.

Maybe I'll take Raptor more seriously when I can find a superplay DVD and some world records for it.  That'll at least show that some people think it's worth playing.


people do think it's worth playing but they aren't royal crown gold shootah mup tatsunoko championu maniac 100% who nerd out about vague scoring systems. 

they like the game because they like it and it's fun to play

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« Reply #7445 on: December 05, 2011, 06:57:50 PM »
I think shitting on old games because they are old and don't compare to modern games is stupid.  They are classics that built the genre.  Sure they're not that enjoyable anymore, but it doesn't take away that they were good games back in the day.

I mean Raiden 1 is really fucking boring and plain compared to Raiden Fighter games or even Raiden 2.  Doesn't make Raiden 1 bad, game was important and good when it came out. 

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« Reply #7446 on: December 05, 2011, 07:51:00 PM »
I'm not shitting on the game because it's old, I just think it looks like crap and would never play it over a proper arcade shooter. Raiden II for example, which is a year older, looks way better. At least in that game you die when you get hit, instead of losing some health from your ginormous health bar which was implemented to make up for design deficiencies.  8)
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« Reply #7447 on: December 05, 2011, 08:02:52 PM »
Western shmups aren't as hard as Eastern.  Who cares.

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« Reply #7448 on: December 05, 2011, 08:14:00 PM »
I've never played Raptor but Tyrian was pretty fun back in the day...I missed when Epic actually made interesting games...
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« Reply #7449 on: December 05, 2011, 09:30:28 PM »
Space bacon :rock
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« Reply #7450 on: December 06, 2011, 10:41:14 AM »
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« Reply #7451 on: December 06, 2011, 10:43:23 AM »
I got nightmares from whichever old ass PC shmup had the intro about the lumberjack cutting down the last tree in the world.  my young mind was like "holy shit that could really happen :(  "

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« Reply #7452 on: December 06, 2011, 10:46:42 AM »
I got nightmares from whichever old ass PC shmup had the intro about the lumberjack cutting down the last tree in the world.  my young mind was like "holy shit that could really happen :(  "
Galactix iirc


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« Reply #7453 on: December 06, 2011, 10:48:33 AM »
watching it again im surprised these voices didnt give me fucking nightmares

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« Reply #7454 on: December 06, 2011, 01:12:55 PM »
Wow, this is pretty cool: http://uncrate.com/stuff/supaboy/

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« Reply #7455 on: December 06, 2011, 01:19:10 PM »
I cant get over how fat that snes pad is

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« Reply #7456 on: December 06, 2011, 01:22:28 PM »
watching it again im surprised these voices didnt give me fucking nightmares

pc games were freaky once the graphics improved enough.  Wolf3D was another that freaked me out, but that I learned to love. 

I remember one of the space quest games giving me a near heart attack when the aliens found the player. 

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« Reply #7457 on: December 06, 2011, 01:29:39 PM »
Wow, this is pretty cool: http://uncrate.com/stuff/supaboy/

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yeah, I saw that the other day and was going to make a thread about how we finally have a good nintendo handheld this year.

it has TV out too and it's only $80.  seriously considering buying one for the novelty.

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« Reply #7459 on: December 06, 2011, 11:20:52 PM »
^ Hasn't played a real shooter.

Looks like I'm not alone either: http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32670

Well shit taste is contagious...

So.. Super Star Soldier, Gradius, R-Type, Raiden and Ikaruga not real shooters now?

Well, it should be obvious why all of those games are much better than some euroshmup. To be honest I'm not even sure why Raptor is being compared to them, since it was clearly designed for home platforms. Compared to an arcade game (or a home game designed like an arcade game), they're really nothing alike.

Maybe I'll take Raptor more seriously when I can find a superplay DVD and some world records for it.  That'll at least show that some people think it's worth playing.

Cave games fucking suck shit.  I will pray for you.
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #7460 on: December 06, 2011, 11:21:35 PM »
No, you fucking suck shit. Owned 4 life noob
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« Reply #7461 on: December 06, 2011, 11:29:32 PM »
The Korean FTP MMORPGs of shmups.  They aren't even games once you understand the basic scoring (which is always simpler than the dopey fanboys insist) - it's more like a pointlessly obtuse puzzle you have to solve before you get to the score-grinding, like some kind of hazing ceremony for the pedos that flock to them.
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« Reply #7462 on: December 06, 2011, 11:32:21 PM »
Troll, troll, troll.  I'm supposed to be on holiday, why am I doing this?  I barely even care.  Sorry.
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« Reply #7463 on: December 06, 2011, 11:36:10 PM »
Gunz was great. don't go dissin korea's finest export.

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« Reply #7464 on: December 06, 2011, 11:42:23 PM »
Out of curiosity, which shooters have you played, and what progress have you made in them (ie. score, clears, loops, et al)? Just so I know if I should take you seriously or not.

e: lol, you're not going to get away with "i trol u lol" - you were most definitely serious. I can sense the buttpain.
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« Reply #7465 on: December 06, 2011, 11:58:47 PM »
Out of curiosity, which shooters have you played, and what progress have you made in them (ie. score, clears, loops, et al)? Just so I know if I should take you seriously or not.

e: lol, you're not going to get away with "i trol u lol" - you were most definitely serious. I can sense the buttpain.

Nono, you got me wrong - I wasn't denying I was serious serious ... I just don't hate Cave or their lunatic fans enough to continue an argument that I started about it.  Because they'll start asking about loops or scores or whatever.  Yawn.
I'm not making a list of shooters I've played, there are too many.  I'd rather play a Cave game - yuck.  My favourite to play is probably Gradius 1 or Gaiden.  For survival, not score because hahaha score.
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« Reply #7466 on: December 07, 2011, 12:07:54 AM »
Well, playing Gradius for survival is basically the same as playing for score since those games don't really have scoring systems to speak of. But regardless, I don't mind someone who doesn't like danmaku. It's obviously not for everyone; some people prefer manic Psikyo games with lightning fast bullets or old Konami horis. Whatever. But to call the games bad is pretty ignorant if you can't point out specific flaws. They're just not for you. (For example, I would not call the Civilization games bad just because I think they're mind numbingly boring.)

And the "not even games" comment is just dumb for reasons that should be obvious.
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« Reply #7467 on: December 07, 2011, 12:11:25 AM »
Well, playing Gradius for survival is basically the same as playing for score since those games don't really have scoring systems to speak of. But regardless, I don't mind someone who doesn't like danmaku. It's obviously not for everyone; some people prefer manic Psikyo games with lightning fast bullets or old Konami horis. Whatever. But to call the games bad is pretty ignorant if you can't point out specific flaws. They're just not for you. (For example, I would not call the Civilization games bad just because I think they're mind numbingly boring.)

And the "not even games" comment is just dumb for reasons that should be obvious.

Cave games are totally games.  Until you have worked the systems out and you are just grinding for score and I fall asleep because combos are sooooooooo boring.  After a while it seems like more of a ceremony than a strategy.  Only games I can play for score are pinball and puzzle games because they're different every time.  Rank in Cave games isn't implemented well enough or something, I dunno.
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« Reply #7468 on: December 07, 2011, 12:13:48 AM »
:rofl
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« Reply #7469 on: December 07, 2011, 12:14:38 AM »
You are ruining my holiday.
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« Reply #7471 on: December 07, 2011, 12:43:45 AM »
lol...
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« Reply #7472 on: December 07, 2011, 12:45:42 AM »
Anyway, I just played some Facebook app for Uncharted 3 and won like $20 in Amazon credit and the regular and CE versions of Uncharted 3.

It's just that easy.

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« Reply #7473 on: December 07, 2011, 01:08:41 AM »
shit, thats pimp!
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« Reply #7474 on: December 07, 2011, 07:34:26 AM »
share that shit you greedy bastard!

edit: the facebook link, that is
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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #7475 on: December 07, 2011, 07:39:32 AM »
sega has announced a vita action rpg called samurai & dragons



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« Reply #7476 on: December 07, 2011, 08:03:24 AM »
Life Force NES is the best shmip 

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« Reply #7477 on: December 07, 2011, 08:10:21 AM »
sega has announced a vita action rpg called samurai & dragons

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Oh hey monster hunter

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« Reply #7478 on: December 07, 2011, 08:11:01 AM »
share that shit you greedy bastard!

edit: the facebook link, that is

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« Reply #7479 on: December 07, 2011, 09:13:34 AM »
I can be your FB friend Borys.

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Re: Random Gaming Talk Thread
« Reply #7480 on: December 07, 2011, 10:07:27 AM »
Gunz was great. don't go dissin korea's finest export.

Korea's finest export:



:bow BON-CHON CHICKEN :bow2

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« Reply #7481 on: December 07, 2011, 10:21:44 AM »
 :omg  that looks so fucking good!   def getting some korean fried chicken for lunch now...


and ill just leev this heer

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« Reply #7482 on: December 07, 2011, 11:34:12 AM »
^lol kinda want

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« Reply #7483 on: December 07, 2011, 11:44:42 AM »
http://www.cracked.com/article_19558_the-7-dumbest-video-game-innovations-that-actually-exist.html

the title might sound stupid but it actualy talks about videogames that use different form of control than your usual joypad and wagglestick,the last one sounds like a keeper
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« Reply #7484 on: December 07, 2011, 11:46:39 AM »
"The fear-urine was another big indicator."

I went into that post expecting maracas and leave with a bunch of urine entries

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« Reply #7485 on: December 07, 2011, 12:12:19 PM »
:omg  that looks so fucking good!   def getting some korean fried chicken for lunch now...


and ill just leev this heer

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« Reply #7486 on: December 07, 2011, 12:21:53 PM »
Yes its real. Its from corpse party psp.
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« Reply #7487 on: December 07, 2011, 12:33:39 PM »
Yes its real. Its from corpse party psp.
*goes off to browse online retailers*

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« Reply #7488 on: December 07, 2011, 12:36:02 PM »
from what I gathered reading bits of the gaf thread it seems like a harem/dating game with a propensity to kill characters in gruesome ways. apparently this is a genre type or someshit, I suspect the japanese have a nifty little name for it.

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« Reply #7489 on: December 07, 2011, 12:48:18 PM »
Ive tried so fucking HARD to get into monster hunter games but I end up feeling that its just boring busy work with busted tank controls
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« Reply #7490 on: December 07, 2011, 12:52:32 PM »
Ive tried so fucking HARD to get into monster hunter games but I end up feeling that its just boring busy work with busted tank controls

monster hunter is tons of fun but as i say over and over you have to play it with other people to really enjoy it
also deciding which weapon you pick greatly affect your controls,so it wouldn't surprise me if you went with something like greatsword and tought the control sucked
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« Reply #7491 on: December 07, 2011, 12:53:06 PM »
Japan dont even faze me anymore, I see stuff like Corpse Party and just nod my head and go 'Seems about right. '

Sort of want to play it, tho. Already seems more interesting than Persona 3.

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« Reply #7492 on: December 07, 2011, 12:54:43 PM »
Oh hey monster hunter

it's more like four-player actraiser
Sounds more interesting than it looks. Will keep an eye out.

Ive tried so fucking HARD to get into monster hunter games but I end up feeling that its just boring busy work with busted tank controls
Did you play in a party? It's very much a multiplayer game

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« Reply #7493 on: December 07, 2011, 02:32:47 PM »
Gunz was great. don't go dissin korea's finest export.

Korea's finest export:

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:bow BON-CHON CHICKEN :bow2

served with some :bow GOCHUJANG :bow2

Dude, when it comes to interpreting the food of other countries Koerans are borderline distinguished mentally-challenged BUT MAN CAN THEY FRY A MEAN CHICKEN.
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« Reply #7494 on: December 07, 2011, 03:14:05 PM »

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« Reply #7495 on: December 07, 2011, 03:17:15 PM »
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« Reply #7496 on: December 07, 2011, 03:27:52 PM »
from what I gathered reading bits of the gaf thread it seems like a harem/dating game with a propensity to kill characters in gruesome ways. apparently this is a genre type or someshit, I suspect the japanese have a nifty little name for it.

It's basicaly a ripoff of Higurashi: When They Cry [slice-of-life animu that rapidly descends into demons and brutal murder].
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« Reply #7497 on: December 07, 2011, 04:43:44 PM »
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Gust gets bought by Tecmo Koei and forced to make shitty social games  :'(

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« Reply #7498 on: December 07, 2011, 04:49:36 PM »
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo, Gust gets bought by Tecmo Koei and forced to make shitty social games  :'(

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The financial news source Nikkei reported on Wednesday that the game developer Gust and is new owner Tecmo KOEI Holdings aim to make social games of Gust's Atelier console role-playing game franchise. Nikkei was covering the announcement earlier in the day of Tecmo KOEI Holdings' acquisition of Gust as a wholly-owned subsidiary. According to Nikkei, the acqusition price was 2.2 billion yen (about US$28 million yen).

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« Reply #7499 on: December 07, 2011, 04:50:30 PM »
Good, makes them that much easier to avoid. :smug
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